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Guy Barry

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Apr 10, 2015, 5:30:20 AM4/10/15
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I'd like to finalize the numbers for the Bath boink soon if possible. So
far four people including me are confirmed for lunch at the White Hart in
Widcombe (five minutes from Bath Spa railway station) on Thursday 23rd April
at 12.45pm. If anyone else would like to attend, please let me know by 9am
on Monday 13th so that I can confirm the table booking. Thanks.

--
Guy Barry

Guy Barry

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Apr 13, 2015, 4:30:14 AM4/13/15
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"Guy Barry" wrote in message news:JKMVw.164069$wk1.1...@fx19.am4...
Four people now confirmed. I'll send out directions from the railway
station shortly. If anyone is arriving by a different mode of transport,
please let me know.

--
Guy Barry

Mark Brader

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Apr 14, 2015, 1:30:45 AM4/14/15
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Guy Barry:
> I'll send out directions from the railway station shortly.

Instead of using telegrams, wouldn't it be easier to email the
directions from your computer? :-)
--
Mark Brader, Toronto "You can fool too many of the people
m...@vex.net too much of the time." -- James Thurber

Peter T. Daniels

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Apr 14, 2015, 9:03:38 AM4/14/15
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On Tuesday, April 14, 2015 at 1:30:45 AM UTC-4, Mark Brader wrote:
> Guy Barry:

> > I'll send out directions from the railway station shortly.
>
> Instead of using telegrams, wouldn't it be easier to email the
> directions from your computer? :-)

? Are English railroad stations not equipped with WiFi?

J. J. Lodder

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Apr 15, 2015, 3:42:24 AM4/15/15
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I just tried to send you an east,
but it refused to go out,

Jan

Helen Lacedaemonian

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Apr 20, 2015, 1:00:08 AM4/20/15
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It's possible you've picked up an east infection.

Going south,
Helen

Jenny Telia

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Apr 20, 2015, 7:40:36 AM4/20/15
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They (UK railways) are hardly equipped with trains, let alone wi-fi.
There probably is a "wi-fi transfer service" however to compensate for this.

Peter T. Daniels

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Apr 20, 2015, 8:02:13 AM4/20/15
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Took you almost a week to "twig to" the tease?

J. J. Lodder

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Apr 20, 2015, 4:43:18 PM4/20/15
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You may be right.
Perhaps I shouldn't have met that twain,

Jan


charles

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Apr 20, 2015, 6:24:22 PM4/20/15
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In article <mh2ohn$q3v$1...@dont-email.me>, Jenny Telia <jnyt...@gmail.com>
wrote:
The longer distance trains have wifi as do most London Transport stations.

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Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18

Helen Lacedaemonian

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Apr 21, 2015, 12:54:14 AM4/21/15
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Hope you won't be permanently marked. But you can always seek clemency.

Best,
Helen

J. J. Lodder

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Apr 21, 2015, 5:31:33 AM4/21/15
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Helen Lacedaemonian <helenofs...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Monday, April 20, 2015 at 1:43:18 PM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > Helen Lacedaemonian <helenofs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wednesday, April 15, 2015 at 12:42:24 AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > > > Guy Barry <guy....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > "Guy Barry" wrote in message news:JKMVw.164069$wk1.1...@fx19.am4...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I'd like to finalize the numbers for the Bath boink soon if possible.
> > > > > >So far four people including me are confirmed for lunch at the White
> > > > > >Hart in Widcombe (five minutes from Bath Spa railway station) on
> > > > > >Thursday 23rd April at 12.45pm. If anyone else would like to attend,
> > > > > >please let me know by 9am on Monday 13th so that I can confirm the
> > > > > >table booking. Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Four people now confirmed. I'll send out directions from the railway
> > > > > station shortly. If anyone is arriving by a different mode of
> > > > > transport, please let me know.
> > > >
> > > > I just tried to send you an east,
> > > > but it refused to go out,
> > >
> > > It's possible you've picked up an east infection.
> > >
> > > Going south,
> > > Helen

> > You may be right.
> > Perhaps I shouldn't have met that twain,
>
> Hope you won't be permanently marked. But you can always seek clemency.

No problem at all.
I just directed it from East to West Station,
collecting Fl 200 on the way.

Must have missed you, I'm afraid.
From East to West by way of AF
passes by way of North Station,

Jan


Paul Wolff

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Apr 21, 2015, 6:37:48 PM4/21/15
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On Mon, 20 Apr 2015, charles <cha...@charleshope.demon.co.uk> posted:
>In article <mh2ohn$q3v$1...@dont-email.me>, Jenny Telia <jnyt...@gmail.com>
>> On 14/04/2015 15:03, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, April 14, 2015 at 1:30:45 AM UTC-4, Mark Brader wrote:
>> >> Guy Barry:
>> >
>> >>> I'll send out directions from the railway station shortly.
>> >>
>> >> Instead of using telegrams, wouldn't it be easier to email the
>> >> directions from your computer? :-)
>> >
>> > ? Are English railroad stations not equipped with WiFi?
>> >
>> They (UK railways) are hardly equipped with trains, let alone wi-fi.
>> There probably is a "wi-fi transfer service" however to compensate for
>> this.
>
>The longer distance trains have wifi as do most London Transport stations.
>
They do have it, but for users it is narrowband, or even
completelythrottledband.

Can someone remind me what wifi is? Wireless Fidelity isn't convincing.
--
Paul

Peter Young

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Apr 22, 2015, 2:04:38 AM4/22/15
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A neologism that doesn't actually mean anything, coined by analogy
with hi-fi, Shirley?

Peter.

--
Peter Young, (BrE, RP), Consultant Anaesthetist, 1975-2004.
(US equivalent: Certified Anesthesiologist) (AUE Re)
Cheltenham and Gloucester, UK. Now happily retired.
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk

Guy Barry

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Apr 22, 2015, 2:49:26 AM4/22/15
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"Peter Young" wrote in message
news:833f29b85...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk...
>
>On 21 Apr 2015 Paul Wolff <boun...@two.wolff.co.uk> wrote:

>> Can someone remind me what wifi is? Wireless Fidelity isn't convincing.
>
>A neologism that doesn't actually mean anything, coined by analogy
>with hi-fi, Shirley?

I was surprised to discover that it's a registered trademark:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi

--
Guy Barry

R H Draney

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Apr 22, 2015, 4:27:29 AM4/22/15
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Peter Young <pny...@ormail.co.uk> wrote in
news:833f29b85...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk:

> On 21 Apr 2015 Paul Wolff <boun...@two.wolff.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Can someone remind me what wifi is? Wireless Fidelity isn't
>> convincing.
>
> A neologism that doesn't actually mean anything, coined by analogy
> with hi-fi, Shirley?

It's the 21st century's first entry in the -orama/-adelic/-palooza/-omatic
sweepstakes....r

Guy Barry

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Apr 22, 2015, 6:53:29 AM4/22/15
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Getting back on-thread, since I've never attended a boink before, let alone
hosted one, is there any protocol at these events that I should observe? I
seem to remember an extensive report of the Cheltenham boink - is someone
required to take notes? Suddenly getting a bit nervous about tomorrow...

--
Guy Barry

Paul Wolff

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Apr 22, 2015, 7:08:24 AM4/22/15
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On Wed, 22 Apr 2015, Guy Barry <guy....@blueyonder.co.uk> posted:
So it is. A certification mark.
--
Paul

Paul Wolff

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Apr 22, 2015, 7:18:25 AM4/22/15
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On Wed, 22 Apr 2015, Guy Barry <guy....@blueyonder.co.uk> posted:
It's what happens when someone in a bunch of mature students says "Let's
go down the pub," and they do.

Welcome speeches and the post-boink press conference are deprecated.
De-briefing is liable to be misunderstood. On the other hand, a note by
anyone who can plausibly claim to have been there for some of the time
and paying attention (though this latter is not essential) may
optionally be posted to a.u.e afterwards.

HTH.
--
Paul

Adam Funk

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Apr 22, 2015, 7:45:07 AM4/22/15
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You forgot -pocalypse.


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chance. [Robert R. Coveyou]

Katy Jennison

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Apr 22, 2015, 7:52:02 AM4/22/15
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A careful study of the reports posted from boinks over the years will
reveal that the host or convenor or original initiator is usually not
the one who writes the subsequent report, if any, so you needn't worry.

Topics of discussion at boinks I've attended have been even more subject
to thread drift than any thread here. Don't get the wrong idea, though
- when I say "topics" I'm not referring to any formal "We shall now talk
about x" announcement by anyone: what I mean is that someone simply asks
"What's in that sandwich?" or "How was your train?" and we're off.

Photographs are sometimes taken, and occasionally posted as proof. I'll
bring a camera if I remember.

--
Katy Jennison

charles

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Apr 22, 2015, 8:03:49 AM4/22/15
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In article <G4LZw.369808$I97.1...@fx31.am4>, Guy Barry
I've got my train ticket - so don't pull out now. I've never been to one
before, so I have to idea what to expect, anyway.

charles

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Apr 22, 2015, 8:30:14 AM4/22/15
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In article <mh820v$op5$1...@news.albasani.net>,
Katy Jennison <ka...@spamtrap.kjennison.com> wrote:
> On 22/04/2015 12:14, Paul Wolff wrote:

> > On Wed, 22 Apr 2015, Guy Barry <guy....@blueyonder.co.uk> posted:
> >> Getting back on-thread, since I've never attended a boink before, let
> >> alone hosted one, is there any protocol at these events that I should
> >> observe? I seem to remember an extensive report of the Cheltenham
> >> boink - is someone required to take notes? Suddenly getting a bit
> >> nervous about tomorrow...
> >>
> > It's what happens when someone in a bunch of mature students says "Let's
> > go down the pub," and they do.
> >
> > Welcome speeches and the post-boink press conference are deprecated.
> > De-briefing is liable to be misunderstood. On the other hand, a note by
> > anyone who can plausibly claim to have been there for some of the time
> > and paying attention (though this latter is not essential) may
> > optionally be posted to a.u.e afterwards.
> >

> A careful study of the reports posted from boinks over the years will
> reveal that the host or convenor or original initiator is usually not
> the one who writes the subsequent report, if any, so you needn't worry.

> Topics of discussion at boinks I've attended have been even more subject
> to thread drift than any thread here. Don't get the wrong idea, though
> - when I say "topics" I'm not referring to any formal "We shall now talk
> about x" announcement by anyone: what I mean is that someone simply asks
> "What's in that sandwich?"

[Snip]
as long as we don't discuss "rounds" of sandwiches

Peter Moylan

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Apr 22, 2015, 9:07:24 AM4/22/15
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That article also effectively answers the original question. The name
(but not any other aspect of the technology) was invented by a "brand
consulting firm". I was surprised long ago to discover that some
"designers" were making a lot of money by working out what colour the
box should be. Now it seems that there's also money to be made by making
up names.

Meanwhile, all the people who did the technical work are probably now
discovering how difficult it is to live on inadequate superannuation.
It's rare to see a truly inventive person get rich. The big money goes
to the hangers-on.

--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia

Jerry Friedman

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Apr 22, 2015, 9:28:17 AM4/22/15
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On 4/22/15 5:30 AM, Adam Funk wrote:
> On 2015-04-22, R H Draney wrote:
>
>> Peter Young <pny...@ormail.co.uk> wrote in
>> news:833f29b85...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk:
>>
>>> On 21 Apr 2015 Paul Wolff <boun...@two.wolff.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Can someone remind me what wifi is? Wireless Fidelity isn't
>>>> convincing.
>>>
>>> A neologism that doesn't actually mean anything, coined by analogy
>>> with hi-fi, Shirley?
>>
>> It's the 21st century's first entry in the -orama/-adelic/-palooza/-omatic
>> sweepstakes....r
>
> You forgot -pocalypse.

Amazeballs! ROFLcopter!

--
Jerry Friedman

Peter T. Daniels

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Apr 22, 2015, 9:29:43 AM4/22/15
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On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 9:07:24 AM UTC-4, Peter Moylan wrote:

> That article also effectively answers the original question. The name
> (but not any other aspect of the technology) was invented by a "brand
> consulting firm". I was surprised long ago to discover that some
> "designers" were making a lot of money by working out what colour the
> box should be. Now it seems that there's also money to be made by making
> up names.

The poet Marianne Moore was commissioned by Ford to come up with names for
new car models.

She gave them a long list.

They didn't use any of them.

That was at the beginning of the industry known as "Madison Avenue," which
you'll find depicted, documentary-style, in the TV series *Bewitched* and
*Mad Men*.

Adam Funk

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Apr 22, 2015, 9:45:06 AM4/22/15
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LOLgasm!


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Men, there is no sacrifice greater than someone else's.
--- Skipper

Richard Tobin

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Apr 22, 2015, 10:25:03 AM4/22/15
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In article <TvHZw.356550$zE7....@fx40.am4>,
Guy Barry <guy....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>I was surprised to discover that it's a registered trademark:
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi

I can't imagine it arising naturally - it's just the sort
doesn't-really-work pun that marketing people would come up with, so I
would expect it to be a trademark.

-- Richard

Peter Young

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Apr 22, 2015, 11:46:08 AM4/22/15
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On 22 Apr 2015 charles <cha...@charleshope.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <G4LZw.369808$I97.1...@fx31.am4>, Guy Barry
> <guy....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> Getting back on-thread, since I've never attended a boink before, let
>> alone hosted one, is there any protocol at these events that I should
>> observe? I seem to remember an extensive report of the Cheltenham boink
>> - is someone required to take notes? Suddenly getting a bit nervous
>> about tomorrow...

> I've got my train ticket - so don't pull out now. I've never been to one
> before, so I have to idea what to expect, anyway.

Sorry to miss you all, but this week is being the busiest for a long
time. I'll be interested to hear about it.

Paul Wolff

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Apr 22, 2015, 12:28:39 PM4/22/15
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On Wed, 22 Apr 2015, Peter T. Daniels <gram...@verizon.net> posted:
I'm professionally part of the brand industry, and knew enough to
commission a brand consultant to create an initial pool of names for my
firm when it was re-launched. He came up with an initial portfolio of
more than eighty, which we worked through to a pre-short list, and then
checked the trademark status and potential of the favourite names, which
meant dumping some of them. We chose our new name from the pruned short
list democratically, with my own suggestion being particularly well
supported...and then it was time for the beauty parade of visual
treatments by the design agency. What fun!
--
Paul

Helen Lacedaemonian

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Apr 22, 2015, 12:44:07 PM4/22/15
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On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 6:29:43 AM UTC-7, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 9:07:24 AM UTC-4, Peter Moylan wrote:
>
> > That article also effectively answers the original question. The name
> > (but not any other aspect of the technology) was invented by a "brand
> > consulting firm". I was surprised long ago to discover that some
> > "designers" were making a lot of money by working out what colour the
> > box should be. Now it seems that there's also money to be made by making
> > up names.
>
> The poet Marianne Moore was commissioned by Ford to come up with names for
> new car models.
>
> She gave them a long list.
>
> They didn't use any of them.

Where can we find this list? I must see the list.

So I can imagine her driving pell-mell over the bridge in one
like a daytime comet
in a cloud of fiery pale chemicals.

Come to think of it, they should have asked her to name airplanes.

Best,
Helen

Tony Cooper

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Apr 22, 2015, 12:51:11 PM4/22/15
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I think the taking of photographs and links provided to those
photographs is essential. I would imagine that all of us are a bit
curious about what some posters look like. The AUE Photo Gallery
hasn't been updated for quite some time.



--
Tony Cooper - Orlando FL

Peter T. Daniels

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Apr 22, 2015, 1:28:19 PM4/22/15
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So your guy did better than Her Who Would Have Been A Poet Laureate Of The US
if the post had existed during her lifetime.

Peter T. Daniels

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Apr 22, 2015, 1:31:15 PM4/22/15
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On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 12:44:07 PM UTC-4, Helen Lacedaemonian wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 6:29:43 AM UTC-7, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 9:07:24 AM UTC-4, Peter Moylan wrote:
> >
> > > That article also effectively answers the original question. The name
> > > (but not any other aspect of the technology) was invented by a "brand
> > > consulting firm". I was surprised long ago to discover that some
> > > "designers" were making a lot of money by working out what colour the
> > > box should be. Now it seems that there's also money to be made by making
> > > up names.
> >
> > The poet Marianne Moore was commissioned by Ford to come up with names for
> > new car models.
> >
> > She gave them a long list.
> >
> > They didn't use any of them.
>
> Where can we find this list? I must see the list.

I've seen excerpts (at least) in many places, so it must be on line somewhere
-- perhaps in the form of Google Books Snippets. Perhaps in her Collected Poems.

> So I can imagine her driving pell-mell over the bridge in one
> like a daytime comet
> in a cloud of fiery pale chemicals.
>
> Come to think of it, they should have asked her to name airplanes.

The NYC "Underground Poetry" program (which puts verse on advertising cards
in subway cars) has used at least one of hers referring to a subway trip.

Peter Duncanson [BrE]

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Apr 22, 2015, 1:45:46 PM4/22/15
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On Wed, 22 Apr 2015 06:33:58 +0100, Peter Young <pny...@ormail.co.uk>
wrote:

>On 21 Apr 2015 Paul Wolff <boun...@two.wolff.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 20 Apr 2015, charles <cha...@charleshope.demon.co.uk> posted:
>>>In article <mh2ohn$q3v$1...@dont-email.me>, Jenny Telia <jnyt...@gmail.com>
>>>> On 14/04/2015 15:03, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, April 14, 2015 at 1:30:45 AM UTC-4, Mark Brader wrote:
>>>>>> Guy Barry:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll send out directions from the railway station shortly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Instead of using telegrams, wouldn't it be easier to email the
>>>>>> directions from your computer? :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> ? Are English railroad stations not equipped with WiFi?
>>>>>
>>>> They (UK railways) are hardly equipped with trains, let alone wi-fi.
>>>> There probably is a "wi-fi transfer service" however to compensate for
>>>> this.
>>>
>>>The longer distance trains have wifi as do most London Transport stations.
>>>
>> They do have it, but for users it is narrowband, or even
>> completelythrottledband.
>
>> Can someone remind me what wifi is? Wireless Fidelity isn't convincing.
>
>A neologism that doesn't actually mean anything, coined by analogy
>with hi-fi, Shirley?
>
Perhaps to a naming guru Wi-Fi seemed like Sci-Fi.

--
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)

Katy Jennison

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Apr 22, 2015, 1:55:53 PM4/22/15
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On 22/04/2015 16:04, Peter Young wrote:
> On 22 Apr 2015 charles <cha...@charleshope.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> In article <G4LZw.369808$I97.1...@fx31.am4>, Guy Barry
>> <guy....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Getting back on-thread, since I've never attended a boink before, let
>>> alone hosted one, is there any protocol at these events that I should
>>> observe? I seem to remember an extensive report of the Cheltenham boink
>>> - is someone required to take notes? Suddenly getting a bit nervous
>>> about tomorrow...
>
>> I've got my train ticket - so don't pull out now. I've never been to one
>> before, so I have to idea what to expect, anyway.
>
> Sorry to miss you all, but this week is being the busiest for a long
> time. I'll be interested to hear about it.
>

We'll miss you.

I should have added, for Guy's benefit, that in my experience of boinks
actual English usage is almost never discussed. I hope that won't be a
disappointment.

--
Katy Jennison

Jerry Friedman

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Apr 22, 2015, 2:01:05 PM4/22/15
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On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 10:44:07 AM UTC-6, Helen Lacedaemonian wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 6:29:43 AM UTC-7, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 9:07:24 AM UTC-4, Peter Moylan wrote:
> >
> > > That article also effectively answers the original question. The name
> > > (but not any other aspect of the technology) was invented by a "brand
> > > consulting firm". I was surprised long ago to discover that some
> > > "designers" were making a lot of money by working out what colour the
> > > box should be. Now it seems that there's also money to be made by making
> > > up names.
> >
> > The poet Marianne Moore was commissioned by Ford to come up with names for
> > new car models.
> >
> > She gave them a long list.
> >
> > They didn't use any of them.
>
> Where can we find this list? I must see the list.

http://www.listsofnote.com/2012/02/utopian-turtletop.html

(I remembered the one that's in the URL.)

> So I can imagine her driving pell-mell over the bridge in one
> like a daytime comet
> in a cloud of fiery pale chemicals.

(Tempted to count syllables.)

> Come to think of it, they should have asked her to name airplanes.

It might have come out about the same.

--
Jerry Friedman

snide...@gmail.com

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Apr 22, 2015, 2:02:52 PM4/22/15
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On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 6:07:24 AM UTC-7, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 22/04/15 16:49, Guy Barry wrote:
> > "Peter Young" wrote in message
> > news:833f29b85...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk...
> >>
> >> On 21 Apr 2015 Paul Wolff <boun...@two.wolff.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >>> Can someone remind me what wifi is? Wireless Fidelity isn't convincing.
> >>
> >> A neologism that doesn't actually mean anything, coined by analogy
> >> with hi-fi, Shirley?
> >
> > I was surprised to discover that it's a registered trademark:
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi
>
> That article also effectively answers the original question. The name
> (but not any other aspect of the technology) was invented by a "brand
> consulting firm". I was surprised long ago to discover that some
> "designers" were making a lot of money by working out what colour the
> box should be. Now

For values of "now" that predate 1987, in my experience.

> it seems that there's also money to be made by making
> up names.
>
> Meanwhile, all the people who did the technical work are probably now
> discovering how difficult it is to live on inadequate superannuation.
> It's rare to see a truly inventive person get rich. The big money goes
> to the hangers-on.
>

Usually the top-level architect does pretty well, from what I've seen.
But then, they probably didn't get to be top-level architect without
picking up a few stock options on the way up. At least, when working in
the US for a Silicon Valley firm, or even a Silicon Forest firm.

/dps

Guy Barry

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"Katy Jennison" wrote in message news:mh8nb7$hl$1...@news.albasani.net...
>
>On 22/04/2015 16:04, Peter Young wrote:
>> On 22 Apr 2015 charles <cha...@charleshope.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <G4LZw.369808$I97.1...@fx31.am4>, Guy Barry
>>> <guy....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> Getting back on-thread, since I've never attended a boink before, let
>>>> alone hosted one, is there any protocol at these events that I should
>>>> observe? I seem to remember an extensive report of the Cheltenham
>>>> boink
>>>> - is someone required to take notes? Suddenly getting a bit nervous
>>>> about tomorrow...
>>
>>> I've got my train ticket - so don't pull out now. I've never been to
>>> one
>>> before, so I have to idea what to expect, anyway.

Don't worry - I'll be walking there from another appointment at 12.30.

>> Sorry to miss you all, but this week is being the busiest for a long
>> time. I'll be interested to hear about it.
>>
>
>We'll miss you.
>
>I should have added, for Guy's benefit, that in my experience of boinks
>actual English usage is almost never discussed. I hope that won't be a
>disappointment.

Ah well, that's a difference then. I've attended (and hosted) meetings of
the British roads group that I used to take part in, and they were heavily
dominated by people spreading maps all over the table and animated
discussions of the road network. You mean that people don't bring along
copies of Fowler?

--
Guy Barry

R H Draney

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Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote in
news:m3lk0cx...@news.ducksburg.com:

> On 2015-04-22, Jerry Friedman wrote:
>
>> On 4/22/15 5:30 AM, Adam Funk wrote:
>>> On 2015-04-22, R H Draney wrote:
>>>
>>>> Peter Young <pny...@ormail.co.uk> wrote in
>>>> news:833f29b85...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk:
>>>>
>>>>> On 21 Apr 2015 Paul Wolff <boun...@two.wolff.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can someone remind me what wifi is? Wireless Fidelity isn't
>>>>>> convincing.
>>>>>
>>>>> A neologism that doesn't actually mean anything, coined by analogy
>>>>> with hi-fi, Shirley?
>>>>
>>>> It's the 21st century's first entry in the
>>>> -orama/-adelic/-palooza/-omatic sweepstakes....r
>>>
>>> You forgot -pocalypse.
>>
>> Amazeballs! ROFLcopter!
>
> LOLgasm!

Suffixgate!...r

charles

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Apr 22, 2015, 4:57:38 PM4/22/15
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In article <mh8nb7$hl$1...@news.albasani.net>, Katy Jennison
Thank goodness.

> I hope that won't be a disappointment.

--

Adam Funk

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On 2015-04-22, R H Draney wrote:

> Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote in
> news:m3lk0cx...@news.ducksburg.com:
>
>> On 2015-04-22, Jerry Friedman wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/22/15 5:30 AM, Adam Funk wrote:

>>>> You forgot -pocalypse.
>>>
>>> Amazeballs! ROFLcopter!
>>
>> LOLgasm!
>
> Suffixgate!...r

Is that in York?


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Guy Barry

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A brief note to say that my first boink was a resounding success, and (to
use that hackneyed idiom passivizing a verb that can't normally be
passivized) a good time was had by all. I took no notes whatsoever except
to mark the coining of a new idiom, "a whole new ball park" (I won't say by
whom). I shall be away in London tomorrow so no doubt one of the others
will fill you in on the details...

--
Guy Barry

Guy Barry

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"Guy Barry" wrote in message news:nOb_w.278363$ob3....@fx47.am4...
Oh, and I completely forgot I still had Paul's grannie's Yorkshire Parkin in
my pocket. I'm just eating it now. Delicious.

--
Guy Barry

Paul Wolff

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On Thu, 23 Apr 2015, Guy Barry <guy....@blueyonder.co.uk> posted:
Glad you liked it, but I must record that the label "Grannie's" (which I
think it was) actually signified "as cooked by my grandmother", whose
recipe book in turn named her own granny as the origin, which makes it
my great-great-granny's recipe. It is more generous in the treacle
department than Mrs Beeton's pale southern imitation (going by Mrs B's
1926 edition).

I often wonder about the competing claims of Granny and Grannie, Mummy
and Mummie. My own mother favoured -ie, but I'm a -y man myself.
--
Paul

Katy Jennison

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Apr 23, 2015, 7:23:12 PM4/23/15
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The parkin was indeed delicious - much credit to Paul's sister.

I took no notes either, but I did take a few photos, one or two of which
I'll send sooner or later to Mike Barnes. Guy's choice of pub was spot
on; the food was very good (well, mine was, anyway: I don't think we
actually compared notes), and the pub garden, where we spent our time,
and indeed where we stayed till long after all the other lunchers had
left, was very pretty and pleasant.

I remember we talked about the SDC, and regretted that it seems to have
fallen into desuetude. Paul brought out a book of sheep, which was much
admired. Guy brought a book of unusual words (I've forgotten the
title). I brought Irving Finkel's "The Ark Before Noah", which I was
reading on the train, and which has given me enormous respect for anyone
who can read cuneiform. We drank Laura's birthday health.

I'm sure there were all sorts of other riveting topics which I'll recall
tomorrow. It was all very enjoyable: many thanks to Guy for arranging
it. And the experience included a short walk along the Kennet & Avon
canal, and its junction with the River Avon herself, on a particularly
beautiful English spring day. Spiffing!

--
Katy Jennison

Guy Barry

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"Katy Jennison" wrote in message news:mhbuss$3k0$1...@news.albasani.net...

>Guy brought a book of unusual words (I've forgotten the title).

It's called "Foyle's Further Philavery" (sequel to the original "Foyle's
Philavery"), and is described as "a cornucopia of lexical delights".
Picking a couple of words more or less at random, I see "humgruffin" (a
terrible person), "pudibund" (shamefaced or prudish) and "dimpsy" (in SW
England, twilight). I haven't yet ascertained whether "philavery" is an
actual word or whether it was invented for the book.

Thanks greatly to you, Paul and Charles for attending. It was indeed a
delightful day.

--
Guy Barry

Tony Cooper

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Apr 23, 2015, 11:56:14 PM4/23/15
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On Fri, 24 Apr 2015 04:30:02 +0100, "Guy Barry"
<guy....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>"Katy Jennison" wrote in message news:mhbuss$3k0$1...@news.albasani.net...
>
>>Guy brought a book of unusual words (I've forgotten the title).
>
>It's called "Foyle's Further Philavery" (sequel to the original "Foyle's
>Philavery"), and is described as "a cornucopia of lexical delights".
>Picking a couple of words more or less at random, I see "humgruffin" (a
>terrible person),

You had this source at hand and all you could come up with is "twerp"?

That's like James Bond throwing a spitball at a SMERSH assassin.


>"pudibund" (shamefaced or prudish) and "dimpsy" (in SW
>England, twilight). I haven't yet ascertained whether "philavery" is an
>actual word or whether it was invented for the book.
>
>Thanks greatly to you, Paul and Charles for attending. It was indeed a
>delightful day.
--

Reinhold {Rey} Aman

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Apr 24, 2015, 12:30:02 AM4/24/15
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T*ny C**per wrote:
>
> "Guy Barry" wrote:
>> "Katy Jennison" wrote:
>>>
>>> Guy brought a book of unusual words (I've forgotten the title).
>>>
>> It's called "Foyle's Further Philavery" (sequel to the original
>> "Foyle's Philavery"), and is described as "a cornucopia of lexical
>> delights". Picking a couple of words more or less at random, I see
>> "humgruffin" (a terrible person),
>
> You had this source at hand and all you could come up with is "twerp"?
>
_The Oxford Historical Thesaurus_ has a category "contemptible person",
which (sorted by date from 825 to 1983) includes worm, wretch, thing,
hinderling, harlot, mix, villain, whelp, wonner, fouling, bismer, beast,
vile, dog bolt, drivel, shit, marmoset, pilgarlic, pode, slave, slim,
skit-brains, scavenger, old boss, rag, shrub, ketterel, shake-rag,
skybald, grasshopper, mumpsimus, smatchet, squib, scabship, vallas,
Gibraltar, polecat, mushroom, nod, cittern-head, nit, stock-fish, brock,
dish-wash, pittitoe, mustard-token, viliaco, cargo, stump, snotty-nose,
sprat, wormling, shag-rag, shack-rag, thrum, rabbit, fitchock, unworthy,
baseling, shag, glow-worm, snip, the son of a worm, grouse, shab,
wormship, muckworm, whiffler, prig, prigster, hang-dog, reptile,
squinny, snool, ramscallion, footer, hallion, skite, snot, mudworm,
sirrah, spalpeen, jackass, skin, tiger, beggar, dspicability, skunk,
prawn, shake, squirt, white mouse, scurf, sweep, slob, shuck, weed,
creep, trashbag, tinhorn, snot-rage, whelpling, mess, schmuck,
gutter-bird, perisher, skate, ullage, punk, shitepoke, tinhorn sport,
streeler, zob, stink, tripe-hound, TWERP, jughead, dirty dog, gazook,
roach, lug, slug, woodchuck, ling-head, asshole, squiff, snotnose,
cheapie, slag, uck, schmendrik, shite-hawk, warb, schlub, schmegeggy,
schlong, wank, dork, wanker, suck, cheapo, tosser, sleazebag, spastic,
dweeb, scuzzbag, sleazeball.

Source:
<http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=17059#comments>

--
~~~ Reinhold {Rey} Aman ~~~

Tony Cooper

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Apr 24, 2015, 12:51:48 AM4/24/15
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If he had that source at hand, he would have ticked "All the above".

The other half of the tag team will now chime in in a paroxysm of rage
because I have used the BrE version "ticked" instead of the AmE
version of "checked".

Guy Barry

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"Tony Cooper" wrote in message
news:u6fjjal2v5god4d97...@4ax.com...
>
>On Fri, 24 Apr 2015 04:30:02 +0100, "Guy Barry"
><guy....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>"Katy Jennison" wrote in message news:mhbuss$3k0$1...@news.albasani.net...
>>
>>>Guy brought a book of unusual words (I've forgotten the title).
>>
>>It's called "Foyle's Further Philavery" (sequel to the original "Foyle's
>>Philavery"), and is described as "a cornucopia of lexical delights".
>>Picking a couple of words more or less at random, I see "humgruffin" (a
>>terrible person),
>
>You had this source at hand and all you could come up with is "twerp"?

Enough of your trumpery, you stercoricolous fanfaron.

(Actually I bought it specially for the boink.)

--
Guy Barry

charles

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Apr 24, 2015, 3:25:42 AM4/24/15
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In article <VMi_w.258442$dj1....@fx03.am4>,
Guy Barry <guy....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> "Katy Jennison" wrote in message news:mhbuss$3k0$1...@news.albasani.net...

> >Guy brought a book of unusual words (I've forgotten the title).

> It's called "Foyle's Further Philavery" (sequel to the original "Foyle's
> Philavery"), and is described as "a cornucopia of lexical delights".
> Picking a couple of words more or less at random, I see "humgruffin" (a
> terrible person), "pudibund" (shamefaced or prudish) and "dimpsy" (in SW
> England, twilight). I haven't yet ascertained whether "philavery" is an
> actual word or whether it was invented for the book.

Looking on Amazon last night, I saw that there are quite a few 2nd hand
copies for sale at 1p + postage.

> Thanks greatly to you, Paul and Charles for attending. It was indeed a
> delightful day.

--

Steve Hayes

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If I ever win the Lotto I hope to pass that way in a canal boat, and
have saved Dr Nicks map for that possibility.


--
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Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

Peter Duncanson [BrE]

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Apr 24, 2015, 6:56:44 AM4/24/15
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On Fri, 24 Apr 2015 04:30:02 +0100, "Guy Barry"
<guy....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>"Katy Jennison" wrote in message news:mhbuss$3k0$1...@news.albasani.net...
>
>>Guy brought a book of unusual words (I've forgotten the title).
>
>It's called "Foyle's Further Philavery" (sequel to the original "Foyle's
>Philavery"), and is described as "a cornucopia of lexical delights".
>Picking a couple of words more or less at random, I see "humgruffin" (a
>terrible person), "pudibund" (shamefaced or prudish) and "dimpsy" (in SW
>England, twilight). I haven't yet ascertained whether "philavery" is an
>actual word or whether it was invented for the book.

OneLook.com dictionary search comes up with only one result. That is in
Wikipedia, at least, there used to be an article in Wikipedia.

The entry starts:

Philavery

This page has been deleted. The deletion and move log for the page
are provided below for reference.

One of the log entries includes "concern was: non-notable neologism -
its use in two books by the same author does not impart notability."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philavery

Katy Jennison

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Apr 24, 2015, 8:30:33 AM4/24/15
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We do have Philip Avery the meteorologist and BBC weather forecaster,
and contributor to aue.

--
Katy Jennison

Peter Duncanson [BrE]

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Apr 24, 2015, 8:58:20 AM4/24/15
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There was a Philip Avery who contributed to aue. I don't know whether he
was that Philip Avery.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Avery

A weather forecaster who frequently posted here was Philip Eden.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Eden

My first thought was of "Philavery" as a contraction of "Phil Lavery".
Lavery is a surname of Irish origin. (The "a" in Lavery is short as in
"lad".)
http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Lavery

I see there is a young racing cyclist named Philip Lavery
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Lavery

He's so young he's hardly out of his pram!

LFS

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You're thinking of Philip Eden.

--
Laura (emulate St George for email)

Katy Jennison

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Apr 24, 2015, 9:49:32 AM4/24/15
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(Yours and Peter Duncanson's post)

Oh dear, yes, I think I am. Oops.

--
Katy Jennison

Helen Lacedaemonian

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Apr 24, 2015, 1:31:48 PM4/24/15
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My god, that is the book for me. I must have it. Let me look at the calendar: when am I turning 29 again? Oh no... I don't think I can wait that long. Perhaps I can give it to Menelaus for his birthday and then keep it on my nightstand?

Best,
Helen

Helen Lacedaemonian

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Apr 24, 2015, 1:46:28 PM4/24/15
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On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 11:01:05 AM UTC-7, Jerry Friedman wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 10:44:07 AM UTC-6, Helen Lacedaemonian wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 6:29:43 AM UTC-7, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 9:07:24 AM UTC-4, Peter Moylan wrote:
> > >
> > > > That article also effectively answers the original question. The name
> > > > (but not any other aspect of the technology) was invented by a "brand
> > > > consulting firm". I was surprised long ago to discover that some
> > > > "designers" were making a lot of money by working out what colour the
> > > > box should be. Now it seems that there's also money to be made by making
> > > > up names.
> > >
> > > The poet Marianne Moore was commissioned by Ford to come up with names for
> > > new car models.
> > >
> > > She gave them a long list.
> > >
> > > They didn't use any of them.
> >
> > Where can we find this list? I must see the list.
>
> http://www.listsofnote.com/2012/02/utopian-turtletop.html
>
> (I remembered the one that's in the URL.)

Wonderful list. She should have submitted it to Citroen rather than Ford, however.


>
> > So I can imagine her driving pell-mell over the bridge in one
> > like a daytime comet
> > in a cloud of fiery pale chemicals.
>
> (Tempted to count syllables.)

Just scrambled up bits of the best invitation ever written:

http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/invitation-to-miss-marianne-moore/

Best,
Helen

J. J. Lodder

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Helen Lacedaemonian <helenofs...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 11:01:05 AM UTC-7, Jerry Friedman wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 10:44:07 AM UTC-6, Helen Lacedaemonian wro:
> > > On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 6:29:43 AM UTC-7, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 9:07:24 AM UTC-4, Peter Moylan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > That article also effectively answers the original question. The
> > > > > name (but not any other aspect of the technology) was invented by
> > > > > a "brand consulting firm". I was surprised long ago to discover
> > > > > that some "designers" were making a lot of money by working out
> > > > > what colour the box should be. Now it seems that there's also
> > > > > money to be made by making up names.
> > > >
> > > > The poet Marianne Moore was commissioned by Ford to come up with
> > > > names for new car models.
> > > >
> > > > She gave them a long list.
> > > >
> > > > They didn't use any of them.
> > >
> > > Where can we find this list? I must see the list.
> >
> > http://www.listsofnote.com/2012/02/utopian-turtletop.html
> >
> > (I remembered the one that's in the URL.)
>
> Wonderful list. She should have submitted it to Citroen rather than Ford,
> however.

Citroen didn't need her help to name a car after you.

Or hadn't you noticed?

Jan

Helen Lacedaemonian

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Apr 24, 2015, 4:43:09 PM4/24/15
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Hmm... I can't decide if you mean the "Type A" or the "Evasion." Surely not the "Fuk...."

Oh, I see now, the pun that launched a thousand ships.

> Or hadn't you noticed?

So many suits, so little time.

Suits me,
Helen

J. J. Lodder

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Helen Lacedaemonian <helenofs...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Friday, April 24, 2015 at 1:26:38 PM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > Helen Lacedaemonian <helenofs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 11:01:05 AM UTC-7, Jerry Friedman wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 10:44:07 AM UTC-6, Helen Lacedaemonia:
> > > > > On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 6:29:43 AM UTC-7, Peter T. Daniels :
> > > > > > On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 9:07:24 AM UTC-4, Peter Moylan wr:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > That article also effectively answers the original question. The
> > > > > > > name (but not any other aspect of the technology) was invented by
> > > > > > > a "brand consulting firm". I was surprised long ago to discover
> > > > > > > that some "designers" were making a lot of money by working out
> > > > > > > what colour the box should be. Now it seems that there's also
> > > > > > > money to be made by making up names.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The poet Marianne Moore was commissioned by Ford to come up with
> > > > > > names for new car models.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > She gave them a long list.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They didn't use any of them.
> > > > >
> > > > > Where can we find this list? I must see the list.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.listsofnote.com/2012/02/utopian-turtletop.html
> > > >
> > > > (I remembered the one that's in the URL.)
> > >
> > > Wonderful list. She should have submitted it to Citroen rather than Ford,
> > > however.
> >
> > Citroen didn't need her help to name a car after you.
>
> Hmm... I can't decide if you mean the "Type A" or the "Evasion." Surely
> not the "Fuk...."
>
> Oh, I see now, the pun that launched a thousand ships.

Mais non. Here she is
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citroën_LNA>

A modest little car, but fitting the times.
The age of the goddess had passed,

Jan

Helen Lacedaemonian

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Apr 24, 2015, 5:43:51 PM4/24/15
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Sure. Don't you consider that a pun?

Best,
LN

Guy Barry

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Apr 25, 2015, 5:17:19 AM4/25/15
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"charles" wrote in message
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>
>In article <VMi_w.258442$dj1....@fx03.am4>,
> Guy Barry <guy....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> "Katy Jennison" wrote in message news:mhbuss$3k0$1...@news.albasani.net...
>
>> >Guy brought a book of unusual words (I've forgotten the title).
>
>> It's called "Foyle's Further Philavery" (sequel to the original "Foyle's
>> Philavery"), and is described as "a cornucopia of lexical delights".
>> Picking a couple of words more or less at random, I see "humgruffin" (a
>> terrible person), "pudibund" (shamefaced or prudish) and "dimpsy" (in SW
>> England, twilight). I haven't yet ascertained whether "philavery" is an
>> actual word or whether it was invented for the book.
>
>Looking on Amazon last night, I saw that there are quite a few 2nd hand
>copies for sale at 1p + postage.

I picked mine up at £2.49 in a charity bookshop (the original price was
£9.99). One thing I hadn't realized is that the eponymous Foyle is actually
Christopher Foyle, non-executive chairman of Foyles bookshop in London. An
amusing little conversation piece but not much else.

--
Guy Barry

Guy Barry

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Apr 25, 2015, 5:22:13 AM4/25/15
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"Peter Duncanson [BrE]" wrote in message
news:j08kja1u89jv57sm3...@4ax.com...
>
>On Fri, 24 Apr 2015 04:30:02 +0100, "Guy Barry"
><guy....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>"Katy Jennison" wrote in message news:mhbuss$3k0$1...@news.albasani.net...
>>
>>>Guy brought a book of unusual words (I've forgotten the title).
>>
>>It's called "Foyle's Further Philavery" (sequel to the original "Foyle's
>>Philavery"), and is described as "a cornucopia of lexical delights".
>>Picking a couple of words more or less at random, I see "humgruffin" (a
>>terrible person), "pudibund" (shamefaced or prudish) and "dimpsy" (in SW
>>England, twilight). I haven't yet ascertained whether "philavery" is an
>>actual word or whether it was invented for the book.
>
>OneLook.com dictionary search comes up with only one result. That is in
>Wikipedia, at least, there used to be an article in Wikipedia.

The entry on Amazon for the first book says ' The word "philavery" was
invented by Christopher Foyle, the chairman of the famous Foyle's Bookshop
in London, to describe this book: a collection of words chosen simply on the
grounds of their aesthetic appeal '. I wonder if there's any etymological
justification for it?

http://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Foyle_s_Philavery.html?id=w6xrAAAAIAAJ

You'd think that, as a collector of unusual words, he'd have been able to
find a suitable one without inventing his own.

Incidentally at least one other person appears to have adopted the term:

http://thephilavery.tumblr.com/

--
Guy Barry

Peter T. Daniels

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Apr 25, 2015, 7:06:22 AM4/25/15
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There are dozens, or scores, or hundreds of such books on the market.

Katy Jennison

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Apr 26, 2015, 3:38:01 AM4/26/15
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Just to say that three photos and a version of the brief report are now
on the aue website at

http://alt-usage-english.org/boink_apr15/index.html

--
Katy Jennison

LFS

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On 26/04/2015 09:37, Katy Jennison wrote:
> Just to say that three photos and a version of the brief report are now
> on the aue website at
>
> http://alt-usage-english.org/boink_apr15/index.html
>

Thank you for drinking my health, I'm sorry I had to miss the occasion.

Irrelevantly, it occurs to me that Christopher Foyle is the name of the
character played by Michael Kitchen in Foyle's War.

Guy Barry

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"Katy Jennison" wrote in message news:mhi4kn$t4g$4...@news.albasani.net...
>
>Just to say that three photos and a version of the brief report are now on
>the aue website at
>
>http://alt-usage-english.org/boink_apr15/index.html

Didn't realize you'd taken a surreptitious photograph of me texting Charles!
Thanks for that - makes the White Hart look absolutely delightful (which it
was). But haven't you misspelt Paul's surname?

--
Guy Barry

Guy Barry

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"Guy Barry" wrote in message news:f91%w.375328$pj.2...@fx16.am4...
I may be doing you an injustice - the error may be due to Mike Barnes.
Also, although the date is correct in the header, in the text it says "23rd
October 2015" (six months in the future!).

--
Guy Barry

Steve Hayes

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Apr 26, 2015, 5:43:17 AM4/26/15
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On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 09:37:59 +0100, Katy Jennison
<ka...@spamtrap.kjennison.com> wrote:

>Just to say that three photos and a version of the brief report are now
>on the aue website at
>
>http://alt-usage-english.org/boink_apr15/index.html

+1

Guy Barry

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Apr 26, 2015, 5:59:42 AM4/26/15
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"Steve Hayes" wrote in message
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>
>On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 09:37:59 +0100, Katy Jennison
><ka...@spamtrap.kjennison.com> wrote:
>
>>Just to say that three photos and a version of the brief report are now
>>on the aue website at
>>
>>http://alt-usage-english.org/boink_apr15/index.html
>
>+1

How can you "+1" a post like that? I thought "+1" meant "I agree with what
you say" or "I support your point of view".

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Guy Barry

Peter Duncanson [BrE]

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Apr 26, 2015, 7:40:51 AM4/26/15
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Yes. I noticed that!

Tony Cooper

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Apr 26, 2015, 11:05:01 AM4/26/15
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On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 09:37:59 +0100, Katy Jennison
<ka...@spamtrap.kjennison.com> wrote:

>Just to say that three photos and a version of the brief report are now
>on the aue website at
>
>http://alt-usage-english.org/boink_apr15/index.html

The photos are much appreciated and well rendered.

Charles Bishop

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Apr 26, 2015, 11:55:19 AM4/26/15
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In article <mhi4kn$t4g$4...@news.albasani.net>,
Katy Jennison <ka...@spamtrap.kjennison.com> wrote:

> Just to say that three photos and a version of the brief report are now
> on the aue website at
>
> http://alt-usage-english.org/boink_apr15/index.html

No one looks as imagined, but the setting and people make me wish it
would have been possible to attend.

--
charles

Charles Bishop

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Apr 26, 2015, 11:55:55 AM4/26/15
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In article <fG2%w.484479$396.3...@fx12.am4>,
-1

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charles

Steve Hayes

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Apr 26, 2015, 12:03:45 PM4/26/15
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In Facebookspeak it means "like", which means, in English "show me
more like this". It also means that I liked it.

Mike Barnes

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Apr 26, 2015, 1:44:02 PM4/26/15
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Yes, two mistakes (so far), both now corrected.

I own up to the date problem (slip of the mouse during cut and paste),
and I'm sure Katy must feel sheepish about the Woolf.

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Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England

Guy Barry

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Apr 26, 2015, 2:11:20 PM4/26/15
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"Peter Duncanson [BrE]" wrote in message
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It looks a lot better now, but for the record the front cover reads as
follows:

"Foyle's Further Philavery
A cornucopia of lexical delights
collected by Christopher Foyle"

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Guy Barry

Guy Barry

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Apr 26, 2015, 2:37:55 PM4/26/15
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"Steve Hayes" wrote in message
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>On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 10:59:49 +0100, "Guy Barry"
><guy....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>"Steve Hayes" wrote in message
>>news:ctcpjadhqu0jlqti2...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 09:37:59 +0100, Katy Jennison
>>><ka...@spamtrap.kjennison.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Just to say that three photos and a version of the brief report are now
>>>>on the aue website at
>>>>
>>>>http://alt-usage-english.org/boink_apr15/index.html
>>>
>>>+1
>>
>>How can you "+1" a post like that? I thought "+1" meant "I agree with
>>what
>>you say" or "I support your point of view".
>
>In Facebookspeak it means "like", which means, in English "show me
>more like this". It also means that I liked it.

Oh well, I can't show you more like this. You'll have to wait for the next
boink.

--
Guy Barry

Katy Jennison

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Apr 26, 2015, 2:39:51 PM4/26/15
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I do. I feel well and truly shorn. Baa culpa.

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Katy Jennison

Katy Jennison

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Apr 26, 2015, 2:41:44 PM4/26/15
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I don't suppose you'd care to tell us how you imagined them?

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Katy Jennison

Jerry Friedman

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Apr 26, 2015, 4:45:29 PM4/26/15
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Absolutely, but where are the photos of the fourth participant?

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Jerry Friedman

LFS

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Apr 26, 2015, 5:11:58 PM4/26/15
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On 26/04/2015 17:06, Steve Hayes wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 10:59:49 +0100, "Guy Barry"
> <guy....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> "Steve Hayes" wrote in message
>> news:ctcpjadhqu0jlqti2...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 09:37:59 +0100, Katy Jennison
>>> <ka...@spamtrap.kjennison.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just to say that three photos and a version of the brief report are now
>>>> on the aue website at
>>>>
>>>> http://alt-usage-english.org/boink_apr15/index.html
>>>
>>> +1
>>
>> How can you "+1" a post like that? I thought "+1" meant "I agree with what
>> you say" or "I support your point of view".
>
> In Facebookspeak it means "like", which means, in English "show me
> more like this". It also means that I liked it.
>

Not in my English. "Like" means "I like it", nothing more, nothing less,
even on FB.

FB does sometimes seem to think that if you like something you might
like other similar things but I use Social Fixer to deal with its
unwanted attention.

charles

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Apr 26, 2015, 5:19:03 PM4/26/15
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In article <mhjip7$i6h$1...@news.albasani.net>,
the fourth participant wielded the camera. We had though of getting
somebody else to take a phot of all of us, but that got forgotten about.

--
From KT24 in Surrey

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18

Tony Cooper

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Apr 26, 2015, 5:30:52 PM4/26/15
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I sometimes wonder how my family will remember what I looked like.
Thousands of family photos, but I'm rarely in one.

Katy Jennison

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Apr 26, 2015, 5:35:10 PM4/26/15
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Anyway, y'all know what I look like. Well, what I looked like last time
I was in a boink photo. Or take my gallery pics and add on a decade or two.

--
Katy Jennison

Paul Wolff

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Apr 26, 2015, 5:55:41 PM4/26/15
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On Sun, 26 Apr 2015, Katy Jennison <ka...@spamtrap.kjennison.com> posted:
Of course I'd have taken a likeness of Katy, if only my telephone had
been a camera. But it hadn't. Wasn't. Didn't.
--
Paul

Steve Hayes

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Apr 26, 2015, 6:14:13 PM4/26/15
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Tell me more.

Reinhold {Rey} Aman

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Apr 26, 2015, 6:22:26 PM4/26/15
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Lazy slob Steve Hayes wrote:
>
> LFS wrote:
>>
>> FB does sometimes seem to think that if you like something you might
>> like other similar things but I use Social Fixer to deal with its
>> unwanted attention.
>>
> Tell me more.
>
Okay: "Google."

--
~~~ Reinhold {Rey} Aman ~~~

Charles Bishop

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Apr 27, 2015, 12:18:17 AM4/27/15
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In article <cq4mev...@mid.individual.net>,
Is the Wolf or the Sheep called Ralph? Which is Sam?

--
carles

Charles Bishop

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Apr 27, 2015, 12:20:08 AM4/27/15
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In article <mhjbh6$4ne$2...@news.albasani.net>,
Katy Jennison <ka...@spamtrap.kjennison.com> wrote:

> On 26/04/2015 16:55, Charles Bishop wrote:
> > In article <mhi4kn$t4g$4...@news.albasani.net>,
> > Katy Jennison <ka...@spamtrap.kjennison.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Just to say that three photos and a version of the brief report are now
> >> on the aue website at
> >>
> >> http://alt-usage-english.org/boink_apr15/index.html
> >
> > No one looks as imagined, but the setting and people make me wish it
> > would have been possible to attend.
> >
>
> I don't suppose you'd care to tell us how you imagined them?

I got in trouble for something similar when I first washed up upon these
shores. So, not for all the tea in China.

--
charles, nothing bad you understand

James Hogg

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Apr 27, 2015, 2:21:59 AM4/27/15
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It's the Google Plus equivalent of Facebook's "Like".

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James

Snidely

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Apr 27, 2015, 3:18:01 AM4/27/15
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Katy Jennison noted that:

> Just to say that three photos and a version of the brief report are now on
> the aue website at
>
> http://alt-usage-english.org/boink_apr15/index.html

A beautiful spring day, and a crew to crow about!

/dps

--
"I am not given to exaggeration, and when I say a thing I mean it"
_Roughing It_, Mark Twain

Snidely

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Apr 27, 2015, 3:20:16 AM4/27/15
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Charles Bishop explained on 4/26/2015 :
Ralph was the sheepdog. Until the end of the shift, when he passed
George at the time clock.

/dps

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Trust, but verify.

the Omrud

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Apr 27, 2015, 10:24:18 AM4/27/15
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I complained about that for decades, I bought them cameras or handed
them mine. Eventually, I gave up and resigned myself to being forgotten.

--
David

Peter Moylan

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Apr 27, 2015, 11:41:34 AM4/27/15
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I think we have to distinguish between "me too" (aka <aol>) and "like".
Facebook confounds the two, but that doesn't mean that we have to.

--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia
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