What if Dark Matter has something to do with Immortality?

[bosod...@gmail.com]

What if Dark Matter has Everything to do with Immortality?

[Madrigal Gurneyhalt]

On Thursday, 13 September 2018 14:34:58 UTC+1, bosod...@gmail.com wrote:
> What if Dark Matter has Everything to do with Immortality?

42

[Colonel Edmund J. Burke]

On 9/13/2018 6:34 AM, bosod...@gmail.com wrote:
> What if Dark Matter has Everything to do with Immortality?
>
>

Ah, what if...
The really real question is.... Do black lives matter??

[Mack A. Damia]

On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 06:34:55 -0700 (PDT), bosod...@gmail.com wrote:

>What if Dark Matter has Everything to do with Immortality?

What if heaven is a string?

[Bill Day]

On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 06:34:55 -0700 (PDT), bosod...@gmail.com wrote:

>What if Dark Matter has Everything to do with Immortality?
>

What if Dark Matter has Nothing to do with Immortality?

What if Dark Matter has Nothing to do with Anything?

What if there are entirely too many rhetorical questions?
--
remove nonsense for reply

[occam]

On 13/09/2018 15:34, bosod...@gmail.com wrote:
> What if Dark Matter has Everything to do with Immortality?
>

What if doesn't?

[Kerr-Mudd,John]

On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 14:22:15 GMT, Mack A. Damia <drstee...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 06:34:55 -0700 (PDT), bosod...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>What if Dark Matter has Everything to do with Immortality?
>
> What if heaven is a string?
>
>

And what Chord? Umm?

--
Bah, and indeed, Humbug.

[Jerry Friedman]

I lost it.

--
Jerry Friedman

[Jerry Friedman]

On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 7:34:58 AM UTC-6, bosod...@gmail.com wrote:
> What if Dark Matter has Everything to do with Immorality?

I fixed your post for you.

--
Jerry Friedman

[Mack A. Damia]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHfeUUlgpxg

This is The Knack on WAUE.

[Peter Moylan]

I thought the theologians decided at some point that souls are massless.

--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia

[J. J. Lodder]

Jerry Friedman <jerry_f...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 7:34:58 AM UTC-6, bosod...@gmail.com wrote:
> > What if Dark Matter has Everything to do with Immorality?
>
> I fixed your post for you.

That would be darkly attractive,

Jan

[J. J. Lodder]

<bosod...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What if Dark Matter has Everything to do with Immortality?

In the
'If the sky falls, will we all have a blue hat?'
category,

Jan

[Bozo_D...@37.com]

Wait a minute, if there's dark matter, then there's dark energy, right?
So maybe I meant to suggest "What if dark energy has something to do with immortality —— "And what if dark energy has everything to do with immortality?" —— that would take care of the mass thing wouldn't it?
I wonder what Einstein would say?

[J. J. Lodder]

<Bozo_D...@37.com> wrote:

> On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 11:49:57 PM UTC-7, Peter Moylan wrote:
> > On 13/09/18 23:49, Madrigal Gurneyhalt wrote:
> > > On Thursday, 13 September 2018 14:34:58 UTC+1, bosod...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > >> What if Dark Matter has Everything to do with Immortality?
> > >
> > > 42
> >
> > I thought the theologians decided at some point that souls are massless.
> >
> > --
> > Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
> > Newcastle, NSW, Australia
>
> Wait a minute, if there's dark matter, then there's dark energy, right?

Nope. Different things.

> I wonder what Einstein would say?

Einstein was far smarter than I am.
He just wouldn't reply,

Jan

[OneStone]

Eh. I'm not so sure.

[Richard Tobin]

In article <dda77dfe-30af-49f6...@googlegroups.com>,

<Bozo_D...@37.com> wrote:

>Wait a minute, if there's dark matter, then there's dark energy, right?
>So maybe I meant to suggest "What if dark energy has something to do
>with immortality" "And what if dark energy has everything to do
>with immortality?" that would take care of the mass thing
>wouldn't it?

>I wonder what Einstein would say?

"Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am
not yet completely sure about the universe."

-- Richard

[J. J. Lodder]

You have a source?

Jan


(Yes, I know, and I think no.
It's not in style)

[J. J. Lodder]

We know only what he replied to,
we don't know what he ignored,

Jan

[Richard Tobin]

In article <1nv4mz5.duo...@de-ster.xs4all.nl>,

J. J. Lodder <jjl...@xs4all.nl> wrote:

>> >Wait a minute, if there's dark matter, then there's dark energy, right?
>> >So maybe I meant to suggest "What if dark energy has something to do
>> >with immortality" "And what if dark energy has everything to do
>> >with immortality?" that would take care of the mass thing
>> >wouldn't it?
>>
>> >I wonder what Einstein would say?

>> "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am
>> not yet completely sure about the universe."

>You have a source?

If he didn't say it, it's because he hadn't come across anything as
stupid as the theory above.

-- Richard

[Quinn C]

* Kerr-Mudd,John:

Down with Chordate Supremacy!!

--
Learning the rules that govern intelligible speech is an
inculcation into normalized language, where the price of not
conforming is the loss of intelligibility itself.
-- Judith Butler

[Kerr-Mudd,John]

On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 06:49:55 GMT, Peter Moylan
<pe...@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:

> On 13/09/18 23:49, Madrigal Gurneyhalt wrote:
>> On Thursday, 13 September 2018 14:34:58 UTC+1, bosod...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>
>>> What if Dark Matter has Everything to do with Immortality?
>>
>> 42
>
> I thought the theologians decided at some point that souls are
> massless.
>

Hey, you, get offa my pin!

[Kerr-Mudd,John]

On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 02:55:53 GMT, Mack A. Damia <drstee...@yahoo.com>

wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 10:34:08 -0700 (PDT), Jerry Friedman
> <jerry_f...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 10:04:32 AM UTC-6, Kerr-Mudd,John
>>wrote:
>>> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 14:22:15 GMT, Mack A. Damia
>>> <drstee...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 06:34:55 -0700 (PDT), bosod...@gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>What if Dark Matter has Everything to do with Immortality?
>>> >
>>> > What if heaven is a string?
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> And what Chord? Umm?
>>
>>I lost it.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHfeUUlgpxg
>
> This is The Knack on WAUE.
>
>
>

I don't think so, another version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Pd87P7rN08

Probably I meant this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mBCs2ugvII

[Kerr-Mudd,John]

On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 17:53:38 GMT, Quinn C
<lispa...@crommatograph.info> wrote:

> * Kerr-Mudd,John:
>
>> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 14:22:15 GMT, Mack A. Damia
>> <drstee...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 06:34:55 -0700 (PDT), bosod...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>What if Dark Matter has Everything to do with Immortality?
>>>
>>> What if heaven is a string?
>>>
>>
>> And what Chord? Umm?
>
> Down with Chordate Supremacy!!
>

Invertebrates ain't got no backbone.
(yrs more of an in-ebrate)

[J. J. Lodder]

How many parking tickets will fit?

Jan

[Madrigal Gurneyhalt]

There are 50 million human sufferers of epilepsy but I don't know
of any statistics for parking tickets.

[Paul Wolff]

On Fri, 14 Sep 2018, J. J. Lodder <nos...@de-ster.demon.nl> posted:

>Kerr-Mudd,John <nots...@invalid.org> wrote:
>> On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 06:49:55 GMT, Peter Moylan

>> > On 13/09/18 23:49, Madrigal Gurneyhalt wrote:
>> >> On Thursday, 13 September 2018 14:34:58 UTC+1, bosod...@gmail.com
>> >

>> >>> What if Dark Matter has Everything to do with Immortality?
>> >>
>> >> 42
>> >
>> > I thought the theologians decided at some point that souls are
>> > massless.
>>
>> Hey, you, get offa my pin!
>
>How many parking tickets will fit?
>

Non Ford Angliae, sed Ford Angeli.
--
Paul

[Bozo_D...@37.com]

What kind of proof or source do you need to consider the possibility?

-BDN-

[J. J. Lodder]

I understand you prefectly,

Jan

[bosod...@gmail.com]

Want to know what else accompanies dark matter, dark energy, and immortality? —— Cold Fusion! —— that's right, Bohso and I cracked it, and we're gonna get the Nobel Prize, be incredibly rich, inconceivably famous, and I owe it all to Bohso because I dreamed it, I know it's true, and have the math to prove it.

[occam]

The souls were not parked there. They were dancing. Your question should
have been - how many Waltz-pairs will it fit?

[Arindam Banerjee]

On Thursday, 13 September 2018 23:34:58 UTC+10, bosod...@gmail.com wrote:
> What if Dark Matter has Everything to do with Immortality?

I suppose it has, what has not lived in light cannot die. Dark matter is stars without hydrogen, large planets etc.

[J. J. Lodder]

Correct, but there cannot be enough of them
to fit the observations,

Jan

[Arindam Banerjee]

Who can believe in the professional pseudo-scientific liars in charge of physics today? Not I, certainly. Everything they say has to be taken with large handfuls of salt.

Dark matter is most probably stars without hydrogen or other gases to form their atmosphere, which is not the case for our Sun. There could be more such stars than the bright stars.

Their collisions create metal fragments, and a potential danger for deep space travel.

Some come down as meteorites. These were used to make iron implements, for generations.

Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee

[J. J. Lodder]

Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, 19 September 2018 18:49:52 UTC+10, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Thursday, 13 September 2018 23:34:58 UTC+10, bosod...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > What if Dark Matter has Everything to do with Immortality?
> > >
> > > I suppose it has, what has not lived in light cannot die. Dark matter is
> > > stars without hydrogen, large planets etc.
> >
> > Correct, but there cannot be enough of them
> > to fit the observations,
> >
> > Jan
>
> Who can believe in the professional pseudo-scientific liars in charge of
> physics today? Not I, certainly. Everything they say has to be taken with
> large handfuls of salt.

You are in luck.
Dark matter was discovered in 1932 by the Dutch astronomer Jan Oort,
so well before the present day.
Oort also coined the term 'dark matter'. (D. donkere materie)
He his perhaps better know for his discovery of the 'Oort Cloud',
but his discovery of dark matter is more fundamental.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Oort>

> Dark matter is most probably stars without hydrogen or other gases to form
> their atmosphere, which is not the case for our Sun. There could be more
> such stars than the bright stars.

'Could be' is the word. Could be lumps of green cheese too.
Nobody has succeeded in coming up with a plausible model of galaxy
formation and stellar evolution that would leave sufficient amounts
of dark matter in the outer regions of the galaxy.
(the amount is huge)

Jan

[Arindam Banerjee]

On Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:42:02 UTC+10, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, 19 September 2018 18:49:52 UTC+10, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > > Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Thursday, 13 September 2018 23:34:58 UTC+10, bosod...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > What if Dark Matter has Everything to do with Immortality?
> > > >
> > > > I suppose it has, what has not lived in light cannot die. Dark matter is
> > > > stars without hydrogen, large planets etc.
> > >
> > > Correct, but there cannot be enough of them
> > > to fit the observations,
> > >
> > > Jan
> >
> > Who can believe in the professional pseudo-scientific liars in charge of
> > physics today? Not I, certainly. Everything they say has to be taken with
> > large handfuls of salt.
>
> You are in luck.
> Dark matter was discovered in 1932 by the Dutch astronomer Jan Oort,
> so well before the present day.
> Oort also coined the term 'dark matter'. (D. donkere materie)
> He his perhaps better know for his discovery of the 'Oort Cloud',
> but his discovery of dark matter is more fundamental.
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Oort>

1932 is well after the e=mcc=hv nonsense. Nothing after Einstein is believable in the field of physics, wherever relativity or quantum is involved, implying absence of aether.

How on earth can "dark matter" be detected if there is no radiation from it?

> > Dark matter is most probably stars without hydrogen or other gases to form
> > their atmosphere, which is not the case for our Sun. There could be more
> > such stars than the bright stars.
>
> 'Could be' is the word. Could be lumps of green cheese too.

Chances of their being large Moons (sun sized objects without gas on top) is much larger, since even the Einsteinians do not make the Moon to be a lump of green cheese.

> Nobody has succeeded in coming up with a plausible model of galaxy
> formation and stellar evolution that would leave sufficient amounts
> of dark matter in the outer regions of the galaxy.
> (the amount is huge)

Dark matter, if it exists, is matter which does not radiate from its internal energy. It is cold, like the Moon. Meteors, asteroids, small planets are all dark matter we can know about. There could be heaps and heaps of them around in deep space. In due course, they can be mined, reaching them with ships built with internal force engines taking them to superluminal velocities. This will happen, after another few centuries - if humans manage to survive that long.

Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
>
> Jan

[J. J. Lodder]

<https://quoteinvestigator.com> is unknown to you?

Jan

[J. J. Lodder]

None, for in the end two is a crowd,

Jan

[Peter Duncanson [BrE]]

On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 15:40:32 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee

<banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:42:02 UTC+10, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>> Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Wednesday, 19 September 2018 18:49:52 UTC+10, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>> > > Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > On Thursday, 13 September 2018 23:34:58 UTC+10, bosod...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > > > What if Dark Matter has Everything to do with Immortality?
>> > > >
>> > > > I suppose it has, what has not lived in light cannot die. Dark matter is
>> > > > stars without hydrogen, large planets etc.
>> > >
>> > > Correct, but there cannot be enough of them
>> > > to fit the observations,
>> > >
>> > > Jan
>> >
>> > Who can believe in the professional pseudo-scientific liars in charge of
>> > physics today? Not I, certainly. Everything they say has to be taken with
>> > large handfuls of salt.
>>
>> You are in luck.
>> Dark matter was discovered in 1932 by the Dutch astronomer Jan Oort,
>> so well before the present day.
>> Oort also coined the term 'dark matter'. (D. donkere materie)
>> He his perhaps better know for his discovery of the 'Oort Cloud',
>> but his discovery of dark matter is more fundamental.
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Oort>
>
>
>1932 is well after the e=mcc=hv nonsense. Nothing after Einstein is believable in the field of physics, wherever relativity or quantum is involved, implying absence of aether.
>
>How on earth can "dark matter" be detected if there is no radiation from it?
>

By the gravitational effects of its mass?


--
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)

[J. J. Lodder]

Peter Duncanson [BrE] <ma...@peterduncanson.net> wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 15:40:32 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:42:02 UTC+10, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> >> Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Wednesday, 19 September 2018 18:49:52 UTC+10, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> >> > > Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >

> >> > > > On Thursday, 13 September 2018 23:34:58 UTC+10, bosod...:

> >> > > > > What if Dark Matter has Everything to do with Immortality?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I suppose it has, what has not lived in light cannot die. Dark
> >> > > > matter is stars without hydrogen, large planets etc.
> >> > >
> >> > > Correct, but there cannot be enough of them
> >> > > to fit the observations,
> >> > >
> >> > > Jan
> >> >
> >> > Who can believe in the professional pseudo-scientific liars in charge
> >> > of physics today? Not I, certainly. Everything they say has to be
> >> > taken with large handfuls of salt.
> >>
> >> You are in luck.
> >> Dark matter was discovered in 1932 by the Dutch astronomer Jan Oort,
> >> so well before the present day.
> >> Oort also coined the term 'dark matter'. (D. donkere materie)
> >> He his perhaps better know for his discovery of the 'Oort Cloud',
> >> but his discovery of dark matter is more fundamental.
> >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Oort>
> >
> >1932 is well after the e=mcc=hv nonsense. Nothing after Einstein is
> >believable in the field of physics, wherever relativity or quantum is
> >involved, implying absence of aether.

Your madness is expanding.
Jan Oort's discovery of dark matter is based on Newtonian mechanics,
sound use of statistics, and nothing else.

> >How on earth can "dark matter" be detected if there is no radiation from it?
> >
> By the gravitational effects of its mass?

And in some cases by noting that it passes in front of something else.
<https://xkcd.com/2035>

Jan

[Arindam Banerjee]

We will need to get into the details and see what is left after hard facts and deductive logic are applied.

[J. J. Lodder]

Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:

> We will need to get into the details and see what is left after hard facts
> and deductive logic are applied.
>

How do you 'apply' a hard fact?
Is that Indian English too?

Jan

[Arindam Banerjee]

It is my English. These days I am Australian, albeit second class. I was an Indian citizen till a few years ago, now I am as an OCI a second class Indian citizen. Taking it all, it is double second class Australian-Indian English. A new thingy, maybe.

Anyway, to answer your question. A hard fact I define, in my English, is a reality whose existence and definition are equally accepted by all reasonably sane parties; the more hostile they are to each other, the "harder" the fact.

By "reasonably sane" I mean capable of leading independent existences without harming themselves, or each other, unduly.

Once the hard facts relevant to a case are identified, the rest is relatively easy. Their interactions, when studied with care, analysed with deductive logic, modelled with honest mathematical methods, shunning as many assumptions as possible, while theorising as little as possible, naturally lead to correct conclusions on a scientific basis.


I did all that for my living.

>
> Jan

[Madrigal Gurneyhalt]

This has to be the most hilarious piece of complete absence of self-awareness
ever written!

[J. J. Lodder]

I pity your employer. Did he throw a party when you left?

Jan

[Arindam Banerjee]

Idiots like you find everything funny. Such is their coping mechanism.

[Arindam Banerjee]

Let us go back in time, then. Nice exercise!

My resume will show that I worked full time for Bharat Electronics, India's largest electronics company, from 1978 to 1989.

In that period I developed a range of primary and secondary radar antennas, DME and space antennas, mostly from scratch. Such were their success, that my colleagues rose to the highest ranks in the company. Success of that original kind is truly rare in India, where they copy everything and that too not very well.

It so happened that in the meantime I got a higher degree M.Tech in Computer Science, studying part-time while working full time.

My thesis was on partial match retrievals, now known as googling. I believed there was enormous potential in that research work. In USA, my conference leader talked to me for hours, asking me to do work there. But I was patriotic, and remained in my company.

Unfortunately no one in India understood what I was saying. It was 1987 and no one knew about computers; in fact the intelligentsia was dead against computers.
I emigrated to Australia, came here without a job. Faith in the Gods and Goddesses, and from that to oneself, works like that.

My boss in India told me to write whatever I wanted for a recommendation, and I did just that. He signed it, and that document is still with me.

They gave me a farewell party. I cannot say they liked me too much - who can like a genius - but they respected me all right.


Second job, in Telstra Research Labs, Melbourne, from 1989 to 2006. Very lucrative, easy-going and highly productive. I escaped many purges, because my work - on the lines I have shown above - was so original, and surpassingly good; but when they shut down the labs I took the nice fat package and left. We had a large party to celebrate our closure - "showers here" was the sign we followed to our extinction. I learnt that the Labour party is for engineers and teachers and nurses, while the Liberal party is for doctors and lawyers and businessmen, who do not care for any kind of productive industrial research. When Little Johnny Howard was elected, our fate was sealed.


After that, it has been contracts for me, and now I am on my own, to do what I can, with my one-person company HTN Research. It is an IP company; I generate IP which in time I will try to market. It may take me a few years, or a few decades, to really get going, but who knows. I expect that in time all my original ideas will be understood and accepted. In the meantime the size of balls around me has been noted. I had to go to the Kremlin for that purpose.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2397532983607818&set=a.506922209335581&type=3&theater&notif_t=feedback_reaction_generic&notif_id=1537399508841205

Life is one long party now - financial independence, won after three decades of hard work, is good. A devoted and faithful wife, who is supportive, is even better. Children and grandchildren are the further layers of the cake of joy. The terrific efforts of the Marxist intellectuals here to disrupt family values, cause divorce etc, did not work.

Lodder-led louts, pouncing from pubs, lost their chance to beat me up in Cambridge, for I did not go there when I was in England. Sir Isaac Newton had made his way to Westminster Abbey and I paid my respects to him there, along with plenty of non-English people who too were looking for his final resting place. One regret is that Hawking has managed to snuck up nearby.


Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee