The latest new addition to Smallminds
Advance Scout
and its not Roy Harper
sheesh
they are throwing every character ever in a dc comic book at us...
while they probably wont (cant) throw Hal Jordan in (due to the new
movie) they could always throw in their take on Alan Scott
For those of you young'uns unfamiliar with Alan here's his bio:
BC
"Advance Scout" <iva...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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I don't see why they're bringing in ANY other heroes -- what do they have to
do with Clark becoming Superman? NONE. This is just a continuance of them
avoiding the show's premise. He has too many frakking helpers now. I also
see no reason why he can't just sit in the La-z-boy and get fat watching
tv -- the world is in good hands with all the other heroes running around.
Wickeddoll
Smallminds - I like it.
I dubbed it "Plan 9 From Krypton" but that may be giving them too much
credit.
:-D
Natalie
Wickeddoll
> "Advance Scout"
>>
>> and its not Roy Harper
>>
>>
>> sheesh
>>
>> they are throwing every character ever in a dc comic book at us...
>> while they probably wont (cant) throw Hal Jordan in (due to the new movie)
>> they could always throw in their take on Alan Scott
>>
>> For those of you young'uns unfamiliar with Alan here's his bio:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Scott
>
> I don't see why they're bringing in ANY other heroes -- what do they have to
> do with Clark becoming Superman? NONE. This is just a continuance of them
> avoiding the show's premise. He has too many frakking helpers now. I also
> see no reason why he can't just sit in the La-z-boy and get fat watching
> tv -- the world is in good hands with all the other heroes running around.
>
>
So who is this Speedy character - not the mouse, of course? If it's a
human who's really fast, they already have one - that annoying Bart guy.
They probably tried to get Speedy the mouse to sign on, but even a
rodent has his standards. I mean, he'll eat garbage, but he doesn't
want to *be* garbage...
Natalie
Anim8rFSK
Wickeddoll <n...@chance.dude> wrote:
> So who is this Speedy character - not the mouse, of course? If it's a
> human who's really fast, they already have one - that annoying Bart guy.
If you're serious:
Speedy is to Green Arrow as Robin is to Batman.
Best known for being a heroin addict.
Meth would have been more appropriate, but hey.
I'm not surprised you haven't heard of him; he's only been around since
1941:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f3/Speedy88.jpg
--
Uncle Jack: "Will, you're invisible!"
Will: "Invisible? I can't be! I can touch myself!"
--actual dialog from third season LAND OF THE LOST
Advance Scout
"Plan 9 from Krypton" gives them credit for having a "plan"... which
they don't.
My "SmallMinds" also gives them credit for having a mind (albeit a small
one)--- which they dont. So my title is no better.
Wickeddoll
> Wickeddoll wrote:
>
>> So who is this Speedy character - not the mouse, of course? If it's a
>> human who's really fast, they already have one - that annoying Bart guy.
>
> If you're serious:
>
> Speedy is to Green Arrow as Robin is to Batman.
>
> Best known for being a heroin addict.
>
> Meth would have been more appropriate, but hey.
>
> I'm not surprised you haven't heard of him; he's only been around since
> 1941:
>
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f3/Speedy88.jpg
>
How can I put this more clearly..
*I DO NOT READ COMICS*
No doubt there are hundreds of characters I've never heard of.
I spent my youth reading most of the time.
:-P
Natalie
Wickeddoll
DAYUM - those are *some* semantics...
Natalie
Advance Scout
> BC wrote:
>> "Advance Scout"
>>> Speedy
>>>
>>> and its not Roy Harper
>>>
>>>
>>> sheesh
>>
>
> human who's really fast, they already have one - that annoying Bart guy.
> They probably tried to get Speedy the mouse to sign on, but even a
> rodent has his standards. I mean, he'll eat garbage, but he doesn't
> want to *be* garbage...
>
> Natalie
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speedy_(comics)
Three Speedys in the comics- Our speedy- Roy Harper - like Robin. Then
in the early 70's DC decided to make him socially relevent and turned
him into a drug addict. This in response to Spideys popularity over at
Marvel (heroes with real problems). (I'll take my heroes problem less,
thank you.)
"Earth two" speedy- similar to ours
and the new Speedy (a girl). OK- equal opportunity for woman... I get
it. But couldn't they create a new character?
Advance Scout
> "Advance Scout" <iva...@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:4a97cf15$0$31286$607e...@cv.net...
>> Speedy
>>
>> and its not Roy Harper
>>
>>
>> sheesh
>>
>> they are throwing every character ever in a dc comic book at us...
>> while they probably wont (cant) throw Hal Jordan in (due to the new movie)
>> they could always throw in their take on Alan Scott
>>
>> For those of you young'uns unfamiliar with Alan here's his bio:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Scott
>
> I don't see why they're bringing in ANY other heroes -- what do they have to
> do with Clark becoming Superman? NONE. This is just a continuance of them
> avoiding the show's premise.
wait.... we havent had Wonder Woman, Atom, Flash (the real deal),
Hawkman (or woman), Metal Men, Snapper Car, The Elongated man, Batman,
Robin. I'm smelling season 14 or better...
Wickeddoll
> Wickeddoll wrote:
>> human who's really fast, they already have one - that annoying Bart
>> guy. They probably tried to get Speedy the mouse to sign on, but even
>> a rodent has his standards. I mean, he'll eat garbage, but he doesn't
>> want to *be* garbage...
>>
>> Natalie
>
>
>
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speedy_(comics)
>
> Three Speedys in the comics- Our speedy- Roy Harper - like Robin. Then
> in the early 70's DC decided to make him socially relevent and turned
> him into a drug addict. This in response to Spideys popularity over at
> Marvel (heroes with real problems). (I'll take my heroes problem less,
> thank you.)
>
> "Earth two" speedy- similar to ours
>
> and the new Speedy (a girl). OK- equal opportunity for woman... I get
> it. But couldn't they create a new character?
>
>
>
>
:-P
Natalie
Wickeddoll
> BC wrote:
>> "Advance Scout"
>>>
>>> and its not Roy Harper
>>>
>>>
>>> sheesh
>>>
>>> they are throwing every character ever in a dc comic book at us...
>>> while they probably wont (cant) throw Hal Jordan in (due to the new
>>> movie) they could always throw in their take on Alan Scott
>>>
>>> For those of you young'uns unfamiliar with Alan here's his bio:
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Scott
>>
>> I don't see why they're bringing in ANY other heroes -- what do they
>> have to do with Clark becoming Superman? NONE. This is just a
>> continuance of them avoiding the show's premise.
>
> wait.... we havent had Wonder Woman, Atom, Flash (the real deal),
> Hawkman (or woman), Metal Men, Snapper Car, The Elongated man, Batman,
> Robin. I'm smelling season 14 or better...
>
>
>
> He has too many frakking helpers now. I also
>> see no reason why he can't just sit in the La-z-boy and get fat
>> watching tv -- the world is in good hands with all the other heroes
>> running around.
>>
Underdog won't answer their calls...
Natalie
Christopher M.
:: "Advance Scout" <iva...@nospam.com> wrote in message
It looks even worse than that. It seems that Clark is going become even
darker this season, and more sullen. They've regressed him all the way to
back before the pilot episode. It probably makes sense to most of the
writers, since all they know is Smallville Wiki.
W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)
Christopher M.
I read she's a prostitute.
legal process
The female "speedy" (nee Mia Dearden) was a prostitute (YAY!!!!), but later
revealed to be HIV positive (BUMMER!!!)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speedy_(Mia_Dearden)
Anim8rFSK
Advance Scout <iva...@nospam.com> wrote:
> BC wrote:
> > "Advance Scout" <iva...@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:4a97cf15$0$31286$607e...@cv.net...
> >> Speedy
> >>
> >> and its not Roy Harper
> >>
> >>
> >> sheesh
> >>
> >> they are throwing every character ever in a dc comic book at us...
> >> while they probably wont (cant) throw Hal Jordan in (due to the new movie)
> >> they could always throw in their take on Alan Scott
> >>
> >> For those of you young'uns unfamiliar with Alan here's his bio:
> >>
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Scott
> >
> > I don't see why they're bringing in ANY other heroes -- what do they have
> > to
> > do with Clark becoming Superman? NONE. This is just a continuance of them
> > avoiding the show's premise.
>
> wait.... we havent had Wonder Woman,
Sort of; she's been mentioned
> Atom, Flash (the real deal),
Bart was Impulse and Kid Flash; did he ever use the name FLASH?
> Hawkman (or woman), Metal Men, Snapper Car, The Elongated man, Batman,
> Robin. I'm smelling season 14 or better...
>
>
>
> He has too many frakking helpers now. I also
> > see no reason why he can't just sit in the La-z-boy and get fat watching
> > tv -- the world is in good hands with all the other heroes running around.
> >
> >
--
Advance Scout
> In article <4a9841d9$0$10280$607e...@cv.net>,
> Advance Scout <iva...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> BC wrote:
>>> "Advance Scout" <iva...@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4a97cf15$0$31286$607e...@cv.net...
>>>> Speedy
>>>>
>>>> and its not Roy Harper
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> sheesh
>>>>
>>>> they are throwing every character ever in a dc comic book at us...
>>>> while they probably wont (cant) throw Hal Jordan in (due to the new movie)
>>>> they could always throw in their take on Alan Scott
>>>>
>>>> For those of you young'uns unfamiliar with Alan here's his bio:
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Scott
>>> I don't see why they're bringing in ANY other heroes -- what do they have
>>> to
>>> do with Clark becoming Superman? NONE. This is just a continuance of them
>>> avoiding the show's premise.
>> wait.... we havent had Wonder Woman,
>
> Sort of; she's been mentioned
on Smallville??
Christopher M.
:: Anim8rFSK wrote:
::: In article <4a9841d9$0$10280$607e...@cv.net>,
::: Advance Scout <iva...@nospam.com> wrote:
:::
:::: BC wrote:
::::: "Advance Scout" <iva...@nospam.com> wrote in message
::::: news:4a97cf15$0$31286$607e...@cv.net...
:::::: Speedy
::::::
:::::: and its not Roy Harper
::::::
::::::
:::::: sheesh
::::::
:::::: they are throwing every character ever in a dc comic book at
:::::: us...
:::::: while they probably wont (cant) throw Hal Jordan in (due to the
:::::: new movie) they could always throw in their take on Alan Scott
::::::
:::::: For those of you young'uns unfamiliar with Alan here's his bio:
::::::
:::::: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Scott
::::: I don't see why they're bringing in ANY other heroes -- what do
::::: they have to
::::: do with Clark becoming Superman? NONE. This is just a
::::: continuance of them avoiding the show's premise.
:::: wait.... we havent had Wonder Woman,
:::
::: Sort of; she's been mentioned
::
:: on Smallville??
I think it was a shot of a newspaper headline about Amazons.
Anim8rFSK
Advance Scout <iva...@nospam.com> wrote:
> Anim8rFSK wrote:
> > In article <4a9841d9$0$10280$607e...@cv.net>,
> > Advance Scout <iva...@nospam.com> wrote:
> >
> >> BC wrote:
> >>> "Advance Scout" <iva...@nospam.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:4a97cf15$0$31286$607e...@cv.net...
> >>>> Speedy
> >>>>
> >>>> and its not Roy Harper
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> sheesh
> >>>>
> >>>> they are throwing every character ever in a dc comic book at us...
> >>>> while they probably wont (cant) throw Hal Jordan in (due to the new
> >>>> movie)
> >>>> they could always throw in their take on Alan Scott
> >>>>
> >>>> For those of you young'uns unfamiliar with Alan here's his bio:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Scott
> >>> I don't see why they're bringing in ANY other heroes -- what do they have
> >>> to
> >>> do with Clark becoming Superman? NONE. This is just a continuance of
> >>> them
> >>> avoiding the show's premise.
> >> wait.... we havent had Wonder Woman,
> >
> > Sort of; she's been mentioned
>
> on Smallville??
Yeah, she was in a Daily Planet headline.
"Themysciran Queen Addresses..."
argento32
Of course they are going to throw in every secondary character they
can think of. Smallville is winding down and its an incredible cash
cow for them. All this is just ways to gauge differemnt characters and
see if they get enough fan response so they can have a series after
Smallville. Its the same thing Murder, She Wrote did near the end of
its series run.
Wickeddoll
Yeah, "The Law & Harry McGraw" bombed worse than Hiroshima.
Natalie
argento32
Like that'll stop Smallville producers...
Oh god did you have to remind me of that show.
Wickeddoll
Wickeddoll
>> Advance Scout wrote:
>>>> Speedy
>>>> and its not Roy Harper
>>>> sheesh
>>>> they are throwing every character ever in a dc comic book at us...
>>>> while they probably wont (cant) throw Hal Jordan in (due to the new
>>>> movie) they could always throw in their take on Alan Scott
>>>> For those of you young'uns unfamiliar with Alan here's his bio:
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Scott
>>> Of course they are going to throw in every secondary character they
>>> can think of. Smallville is winding down and its an incredible cash
>>> cow for them. All this is just ways to gauge differemnt characters and
>>> see if they get enough fan response so they can have a series after
>>> Smallville. Its the same thing Murder, She Wrote did near the end of
>>> its series run.
>> Yeah, "The Law & Harry McGraw" bombed worse than Hiroshima.
>>
>> Natalie
>
> Like that'll stop Smallville producers...
Troo dat
>
> Oh god did you have to remind me of that show.
LOL it wasn't *that* bad!
Natalie
lastexit99
well since they are throwing Zan and Jaina at us, nothing would
surprise me. I think BC said it best, all these cameos are doing is
delaying the shows progression. I'm waiting for the inevitable
announcement that Lana will be back on the show this season. That way
we can get a whole story arch about how Clark still loves her. Then
they can throw a few more cameos at us, show us Clark not flying, but
doing something like flying...blah blah blah. I'm pretty sick of it
actually. I would say its time to do something, but that is
wrong...its past time to do something. Shit or get off the pot.
Advance Scout
> On Aug 28, 7:35 am, Advance Scout <ivan...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> Speedy
>>
>> and its not Roy Harper
>>
>> sheesh
>>
>> they are throwing every character ever in a dc comic book at us...
>> while they probably wont (cant) throw Hal Jordan in (due to the new
>> movie) they could always throw in their take on Alan Scott
>>
>> For those of you young'uns unfamiliar with Alan here's his bio:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Scott
>
> Shit or get off the pot.
well said!
argento32
For me Smallville peaked in Season 2 its been coasting since then
Wickeddoll
They needed *that* advice at least 3 years ago!
Natalie
Wickeddoll
Advance Scout wrote:
Advance Scout wrote:
>>>> Speedy
>>>> and its not Roy Harper
>>>> sheesh
>>>> they are throwing every character ever in a dc comic book at us...
>>>> while they probably wont (cant) throw Hal Jordan in (due to the new
>>>> movie) they could always throw in their take on Alan Scott
>>>> For those of you young'uns unfamiliar with Alan here's his bio:
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Scott
>>> Shit or get off the pot.
>> well said!
>
> For me Smallville peaked in Season 2 its been coasting since then
S5 is my favorite, much to BC's chagrin, but 1-3 were very good. Then
there's the one I'm *not* mention. We must never speak of the
worst...season...ever.
Natalie
lastexit99
>
> - Show quoted text -
I didn't think the show was going to survive that season. I was sure
they were going to cancel it halfway through the season. Maybe it
would have been for the best.
All joking aside, I used to afaid this show would end before we got a
satisfactory ending or that basically it would get a mid-season cancel
or just not renewed. Now I'm afraid they will just continue to drag
it out forever. How many years has gone by since Clark "graduated"
high school? How long has he worked at the Daily Planet now? What
they have done is actually worse than end the show prematurely.
They've made me hate it, by just stalling and holding onto the one
gimick they've had for 3 seasons now. Now DC or Warner Bros. has lost
the rights to the origin of the character, which ya know is sort of
fitting. If they had ponyed up the cash way back when instead of
trying to essentially cheat people who have made them millions of
dollars they wouldn't be in that situation.
This character, that I love, is nearly dead to me now. Warner Bros.
should have their movie license taken away from them. Marvel Comics
has turned out movie after movie of at least decent quality in the
last 5 or so years. In the mean time DC/Warner has made 2 of good
quality and one of so/so quality. Any other movie they have made have
not only been made of no name characters but have been so terrible its
laughable.
Advance Scout
> On Aug 31, 1:49 pm, Wickeddoll <n...@chance.dude> wrote:
>> argento32 wrote:
>> Advance Scout wrote:
>>>> lastexit99 wrote:
snip
>
> This character, that I love, is nearly dead to me now. Warner Bros.
> should have their movie license taken away from them. Marvel Comics
> has turned out movie after movie of at least decent quality in the
> last 5 or so years. In the mean time DC/Warner has made 2 of good
> quality and one of so/so quality. Any other movie they have made have
> not only been made of no name characters but have been so terrible its
> laughable.
in a not too related theme: Disney purchased Marvel today (well it was
announced today), including the rights to all Marvel characters. Now I
will be interested to see how this baby shakes out: Disney, of course
owns Disney World. Rest assured that they will want to incorporate
Marvels characters into either Disney World or new theme park.
Universal is only a couple of miles away and has themed islands devoted
to Spidey, the incredible Hulk with gigantic rides based on the
characters etc. I smell lawsuits with lots of slimy sharks getting uber
rich.
BC
"Wickeddoll" <n...@chance.dude> wrote in message
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Season 7
BC
"lastexit99" <laste...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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*That Fantastic Four film was poor and stupid. Spiderman II wasn't so great
either. Superman Returns was flawed script wise and also in filming but 5
stars for effects. The first two X-men were great IMO with the third just
so-so but I believe I read where SR has made about half the money that ALL
three X-men have. Batman Begins is the obvious leader hands down IMO. Dark
Knight should have been called "The Joker" since it made Bale a supporting
actor. And what was the Joker -- a frustrated clown? A mental patient? No
one knows because they ignored any backstory on the Joker.
*As far as Smallville is concerned, you may be right in saying that season
two was the peak and I'd add that it had a two year slide where season five
looked like the end. I have seasons 1-5 on DVD and S1-4 have plenty of
decent shows. Season 5 has few I'd watch again and that season kept me from
buying any more DVD's -- there just aren't enough good memorable shows after
S5 to warrant the money.
BC
Interesting about the "sharks" since Universal's first big attraction was
the Jaws shark I believe.
Does this mean that we can expect the X-Men 4 to include Mickey and Goofy?
BC
"Wickeddoll" <n...@chance.dude> wrote in message
I gave them that advice 4 years ago.
Wickeddoll
> "Wickeddoll"
>>>> lastexit99 wrote:
>> Advance Scout wrote:
>>>>>> Speedy
>>>>>> and its not Roy Harper
>>>>>> sheesh
>>>>>> they are throwing every character ever in a dc comic book at us...
>>>>>> while they probably wont (cant) throw Hal Jordan in (due to the new
>>>>>> movie) they could always throw in their take on Alan Scott
>>>>>> For those of you young'uns unfamiliar with Alan here's his bio:
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Scott
>>>>> Shit or get off the pot.
>>>> well said!
>>> For me Smallville peaked in Season 2 its been coasting since then
>> S5 is my favorite, much to BC's chagrin, but 1-3 were very good. Then
>> there's the one I'm *not* mention. We must never speak of the
>> worst...season...ever...
>
> Season 7
>
>
Natalie
Wickeddoll
> "Wickeddoll"
*shrug*
Natalie
BC
"Wickeddoll" <n...@chance.dude> wrote in message
argento32
I actually preferred Seasons 3 and 4 of The Adventures Of Superboy
with Gerard to the last few seasons of Smallville,
Wickeddoll
Wickeddoll wrote:
>> argento32 wrote:
>> Advance Scout wrote:
>>>>>> Speedy
>>>>>> and its not Roy Harper
>>>>>> sheesh
>>>>>> they are throwing every character ever in a dc comic book at us...
>>>>>> while they probably wont (cant) throw Hal Jordan in (due to the new
>>>>>> movie) they could always throw in their take on Alan Scott
>>>>>> For those of you young'uns unfamiliar with Alan here's his bio:
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Scott
>>>>> Shit or get off the pot.
>>>> well said!
>>> For me Smallville peaked in Season 2 its been coasting since then
>> S5 is my favorite, much to BC's chagrin, but 1-3 were very good. Then
>> there's the one I'm *not* mention. We must never speak of the
>> worst...season...ever.
>>
>> Natalie- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> I didn't think the show was going to survive that season. I was sure
> they were going to cancel it halfway through the season. Maybe it
> would have been for the best.
S4 demise? Oh yeah, it would have been.
>
> All joking aside, I used to afaid this show would end before we got a
> satisfactory ending or that basically it would get a mid-season cancel
> or just not renewed. Now I'm afraid they will just continue to drag
> it out forever. How many years has gone by since Clark "graduated"
> high school? How long has he worked at the Daily Planet now? What
> they have done is actually worse than end the show prematurely.
> They've made me hate it, by just stalling and holding onto the one
> gimick they've had for 3 seasons now. Now DC or Warner Bros. has lost
> the rights to the origin of the character, which ya know is sort of
> fitting. If they had ponyed up the cash way back when instead of
> trying to essentially cheat people who have made them millions of
> dollars they wouldn't be in that situation.
Troo dat
>
> This character, that I love, is nearly dead to me now. Warner Bros.
> should have their movie license taken away from them. Marvel Comics
> has turned out movie after movie of at least decent quality in the
> last 5 or so years. In the mean time DC/Warner has made 2 of good
> quality and one of so/so quality. Any other movie they have made have
> not only been made of no name characters but have been so terrible its
> laughable.
Spidey is the only Marvel one I can think of - I loved the first two,
but the second one was just awkward.
"Dark Spidey"
*yawn*
Natalie
Wickeddoll
:-P
Natalie
Wickeddoll
"BC"
>> "Wickeddoll" wrote:
>>>>>>> lastexit99 wrote:
>>>>> Advance Scout wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Speedy
>>>>>>>>> and its not Roy Harper
>>>>>>>>> sheesh
>>>>>>>>> they are throwing every character ever in a dc comic book at us...
>>>>>>>>> while they probably wont (cant) throw Hal Jordan in (due to the new
>>>>>>>>> movie) they could always throw in their take on Alan Scott
>>>>>>>>> For those of you young'uns unfamiliar with Alan here's his bio:
>>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Scott
>>>>>>>> Shit or get off the pot.
>>>>>>> well said!
>>>>>> For me Smallville peaked in Season 2 its been coasting since then
>>>>> S5 is my favorite, much to BC's chagrin, but 1-3 were very good. Then
>>>>> there's the one I'm *not* mention. We must never speak of the
>>>>> worst...season...ever...
>>>> Season 7
>>> minus 3, yeah
>> Yeah minus 3 = the points you're racking up with me, toots. :-)
>
> I actually preferred Seasons 3 and 4 of The Adventures Of Superboy
> with Gerard to the last few seasons of Smallville,
Huh?
Natalie
lastexit99
> "lastexit99" <lastexi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
As far as Marvel movies go, the newer Hulk movie was decent. The
first 2 X-men movies were decent. Spider-man 1 and 2 are pretty good,
although 1 is by far the best, and three was disapointing. Ironman
was fantastic. The Fantstic 4 movies were "servicable". See what I
mean. Even the bad ones still made money and were not that bad.
However, what has DC/Warner done? 2 batman movies and 1 Superman
movie, a total of 3 movies. 1 of which barely made money, because
they (the studio) had wasted so much money over the years trying to
get it made that Superman Returns would have had to beat the Titanic
to make money. I will give them credit for Batman Begins and the Dark
knight. I don't agree that Begins is better or that the Dark Knight
is not great. In my opinion it is great, it is possibly the best
comic movie out there (for my taste).
DC/Warner has tons of chracters that they aren't even trying to get a
movie made for either. Marvel on the other hand is trying to get as
many as possible on the screen to see what sticks. I can think of
some good ideas from the DC/Warner universe that would probably work
very well. How about a Teen Titans movie. Every single movie that
studios want to make is aimed at the Teenage dollar. This one would
be perfect. The cartoon was successful, shouldn't they at least try.
I know they have tried and failed on Wonder woman, but she is their
3rd biggest comic book star. They should try something. Green
Lantern seems like the movie for it has fallen through, also. There
are so many smaller characters that they could try, because you never
know what is going to stick like Ironman did. Ehll just fill out the
Justice league. Martian Manhunter and Hawk man/girl. It's crazy to
just leave these characters just sit unused.
argento32
It was a half hour series that started really silly but by the time
the third and fourth season came around it became a very brutal and
darker series. Had some amazing episodes.
Anim8rFSK
<43ad1261-c71e-481d...@d23g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>,
argento32 <aaron...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 1, 1:38�am, Wickeddoll <n...@chance.dude> wrote:
> > argento32 wrote:
> >
> > "BC"
> >
> >
> >
> > >> "Wickeddoll" wrote:
> > >>>>>>> lastexit99 wrote:
> > >>>>> Advance Scout wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> Speedy
> > >>>>>>>>> and its not Roy Harper
> > >>>>>>>>> sheesh
> > >>>>>>>>> they are throwing every character ever in a dc comic book at
> > >>>>>>>>> us...
> > >>>>>>>>> while they probably wont (cant) throw Hal Jordan in (due to the
> > >>>>>>>>> new
> > >>>>>>>>> movie) they could always throw in their take on Alan Scott
> > >>>>>>>>> For those of you young'uns unfamiliar with Alan here's his bio:
> > >>>>>>>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan Scott
> > >>>>>>>> � Shit or get off the pot.
> > >>>>>>> well said!
> > >>>>>> For me Smallville peaked in Season 2 its been coasting since then
> > >>>>> S5 is my favorite, much to BC's chagrin, but 1-3 were very good.
> > >>>>> �Then
> > >>>>> there's the one I'm *not* mention. �We must never speak of the
> > >>>>> worst...season...ever...
> > >>>> Season 7
> > >>> minus 3, yeah
> > >> Yeah minus 3 = the points you're racking up with me, toots. �:-)
> >
> > > I actually preferred Seasons 3 and 4 of The Adventures Of Superboy
> > > with Gerard to the last few seasons of Smallville,
> >
> > Huh?
> >
> > Natalie
>
> It was a half hour series that started really silly but by the time
> the third and fourth season came around it became a very brutal and
> darker series. Had some amazing episodes.
I'm struggling through them. The first season is the worst half hour of
television ever made. Until you get to the second season, which is way
way way way way worse than the first season. I'm about halfway through
season 2 and fast forwarding and just turning the damn things off midway
to even get that far.
Wickeddoll
Ah - thanks.
Natalie
argento32
> In article
> <43ad1261-c71e-481d-9ec2-920205280...@d23g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
> argento32 <aaronpyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sep 1, 1:38 am, Wickeddoll <n...@chance.dude> wrote:
> > > argento32 wrote:
>
> > > "BC"
>
> > > >> "Wickeddoll" wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> lastexit99 wrote:
> > > >>>>> Advance Scout wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>> Speedy
> > > >>>>>>>>> and its not Roy Harper
> > > >>>>>>>>> sheesh
> > > >>>>>>>>> they are throwing every character ever in a dc comic book at
> > > >>>>>>>>> us...
> > > >>>>>>>>> while they probably wont (cant) throw Hal Jordan in (due to the
> > > >>>>>>>>> new
> > > >>>>>>>>> movie) they could always throw in their take on Alan Scott
> > > >>>>>>>>> For those of you young'uns unfamiliar with Alan here's his bio:
> > > >>>>>>>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AlanScott
The first season is horrid. They let Gerard Christopher take more
control in the third season and he was completely dedicated to the
series and a long time fan.Long gone was the hokey Mr Mxy stuff and
the cheesier aspects and in came more serious takes on the character.
Different dimension stories were used to show unique aspects of
Superman. He got to meet an older retired version of himself and a
corrupt evil version that actually killed Lex.
I didnt find the second season way worse than the first season it
actually starts to not be as corny in the latter part of season 2.
Newton had the look but not the heart for the character and apparently
was quite the dick behind the scenes as well.
BC
*Forgot that one - yep.
The
first 2 X-men movies were decent. Spider-man 1 and 2 are pretty good,
although 1 is by far the best, and three was disapointing.
*Yep.
Ironman was fantastic.
*Sorry I didn't see that one but want to.
The Fantstic 4 movies were "servicable". See what I
mean. Even the bad ones still made money and were not that bad.
However, what has DC/Warner done? 2 batman movies and 1 Superman
movie, a total of 3 movies. 1 of which barely made money, because
they (the studio) had wasted so much money over the years trying to
get it made that Superman Returns would have had to beat the Titanic
to make money.
*But beware of how they report profits. Gross is better.
I will give them credit for Batman Begins and the Dark
knight. I don't agree that Begins is better or that the Dark Knight
is not great. In my opinion it is great, it is possibly the best
comic movie out there (for my taste).
*It was dark at the expense of Batman. I hope the next one (if) will be
better. A hero should look like a hero and not a frustrated loser on the
run IMO.
DC/Warner has tons of chracters that they aren't even trying to get a
movie made for either. Marvel on the other hand is trying to get as
many as possible on the screen to see what sticks. I can think of
some good ideas from the DC/Warner universe that would probably work
very well. How about a Teen Titans movie. Every single movie that
studios want to make is aimed at the Teenage dollar. This one would
be perfect. The cartoon was successful, shouldn't they at least try.
*The Simpsons is more sucessful but would make a stupid movie.
I know they have tried and failed on Wonder woman, but she is their
3rd biggest comic book star.
*That could be interesting.
They should try something. Green
Lantern seems like the movie for it has fallen through, also. There
are so many smaller characters that they could try, because you never
know what is going to stick like Ironman did. Ehll just fill out the
Justice league. Martian Manhunter and Hawk man/girl. It's crazy to
just leave these characters just sit unused.
*I think that the audience is too small no matter how you see it. I could
care less about them and I know of NO ONE in real life (vs internet) that
cares about any of them including Superman and Batman. I don't know of
anyone that reads comics and haven't since I was in grade school.
*On a more speculative angle, District 9 was a SciFi surprise. Could that
signal a turn and the studios/producers will start looking for older, hard
scifi? Will they ever make Burrough's martian series? Asimov's Robot
series or Foundation? Niven's Ringworld? Dick's Blade Runner and Herbert's
Dune are a couple of my all time favorites -- we need more good SciFi and
not SyFy.
BC
"Wickeddoll" <n...@chance.dude> wrote in message
The whole thing is stupid -- he uses more than his body weight in webs
during a film. And wouldn't NY be covered in webs by now. You ever try to
get rid of a web? That stuff is stronger than steel.
Wickeddoll
> "Wickeddoll"
DOH! Obviously I meant the THIRD movie was lame. Sure it's
preposterous, but then, the city may be cleaning the webs up, since he's
such a big help?
Yeah, I know - I'm reaching, here.
Natalie
argento32
It's also interesting to note that in seasons 2-4 Lex is played by
Sherman Howard. He is the voice actor who played Derek Powers/Blight
in Batman Beyond..Yep I'm filled with useless facts.
Anim8rFSK
<60e2c57c-28a0-47f1...@y20g2000vbk.googlegroups.com>,
argento32 <aaron...@gmail.com> wrote:
I vaguely recall some of that from when it was on.
>
> I didnt find the second season way worse than the first season it
> actually starts to not be as corny in the latter part of season 2.
looks like I'm 12 eps in; at this point Lex is cackling and keeping
Leo's skull around, and it's still pretty cartooney, and not in a good
way. I'll try to slog through some more. :)
Let's see; I've seen "Evil Space Midget on the Island" and "Young
Dracula" and "Wheelchair Superboy" and an awful Metallo episode, and I
fell asleep during part one of Bizarro, and Superboy melts everything he
touches, and Superboy's Roomate's Father's Evil Robot Clone
Impersonator, and just watched Hot Female Robot from the Future comes
back and it turns out Future Metropolis is in Florida before she blows
herself up.
>
> Newton had the look but not the heart for the character and apparently
> was quite the dick behind the scenes as well.
I like Newton's Clark a *lot* better; Christopher is too conciously
doing Chris Reeve, and sleepwalking through it.
Anim8rFSK
Wickeddoll <n...@chance.dude> wrote:
Spider-Man's webbing dissolves completely in one hour. Agreed, the
organic web shooter idea was really stupid, on many levels, and while
they retconned it into the comics for awhile, they already got rid of it
again, and he's back to mechanical web shooters that run out of fluid.
Anim8rFSK
<e5e9428a-d83f-4a24...@m20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>,
argento32 <aaron...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 1, 3:48�pm, Wickeddoll <n...@chance.dude> wrote:
> > argento32 wrote:
> > Wickeddoll wrote:
> > >> argento32 wrote:
> >
> > >> "BC"
> >
> > >>>> "Wickeddoll" wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> lastexit99 wrote:
> > >>>>>>> Advance Scout wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Speedy
> > >>>>>>>>>>> and its not Roy Harper
> > >>>>>>>>>>> sheesh
> > >>>>>>>>>>> they are throwing every character ever in a dc comic book at
> > >>>>>>>>>>> us...
> > >>>>>>>>>>> while they probably wont (cant) throw Hal Jordan in (due to the
> > >>>>>>>>>>> new
> > >>>>>>>>>>> movie) they could always throw in their take on Alan Scott
> > >>>>>>>>>>> For those of you young'uns unfamiliar with Alan here's his bio:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan Scott
> > >>>>>>>>>> � Shit or get off the pot.
> > >>>>>>>>> well said!
> > >>>>>>>> For me Smallville peaked in Season 2 its been coasting since then
> > >>>>>>> S5 is my favorite, much to BC's chagrin, but 1-3 were very good.
> > >>>>>>> �Then
> > >>>>>>> there's the one I'm *not* mention. �We must never speak of the
> > >>>>>>> worst...season...ever...
> > >>>>>> Season 7
> > >>>>> minus 3, yeah
> > >>>> Yeah minus 3 = the points you're racking up with me, toots. �:-)
> > >>> I actually preferred Seasons 3 and 4 of The Adventures Of Superboy
> > >>> with Gerard to the last few seasons of Smallville,
> > >> Huh?
> >
> > >> Natalie
> >
> > > It was a half hour series that started really silly but by the time
> > > the third and fourth season came around it became a very brutal and
> > > darker series. Had some amazing episodes.
> >
> > Ah - thanks.
> >
> > Natalie
>
> It's also interesting to note that in seasons 2-4 Lex is played by
> Sherman Howard. He is the voice actor who played Derek Powers/Blight
> in Batman Beyond..Yep I'm filled with useless facts.
He's a waaaay better Lex than the guy from season one, who had never had
an acting lesson.
BC
"Wickeddoll" <n...@chance.dude> wrote in message
I knew what you meant -- The first film was pretty good except for killing
his uncle (gee can't they ever just injure a loved one for the same guilt
effect?).
Second film was not so good IMO. I didn't like the notion that the
scientist was a good guy but driven by the power of a mechanical set of
arms. At first he controls the arms then late he can't control the arms
etc. so it looked liked back pedaling on the concept. Also he reveals his
identity to everyone in the second ep in the railcar or whatever he had to
stop that damaged his outfit.
Then there was the end where he chooses to reject Kiki and decides to wear
the faggy costume and embrace a life of celebacy.
Movie 3 I just couldn't bring myself to watch any more -- I passed on it.
Martin Phipps
> Spider-Man's webbing dissolves completely in one hour. Agreed, the
> organic web shooter idea was really stupid, on many levels, and while
> they retconned it into the comics for awhile, they already got rid of it
> again, and he's back to mechanical web shooters that run out of fluid.
The idea for organic web shooters came from James Cameron's
"scriptment" (more than a treatment but less than a completed
script). In it, they make a point of Peter always being hungry but
never losing weight. The final movie played up the idea that Peter
Parker was very poor so you didn't see him eating like a pig. The
result is organic webshooters that should eventually kill Peter as all
the protein freom his body is used up and he can't afford to eat.
Then again, the chemicals used to mix up webbing he would have had to
buy somewhere and there's the question of how exactly non-organic
webshooters were able to shoot webbing at great distances. (Cameron's
analogy was that using a webshooter was like popping a zit. Nice. :/)
Martin
argento32
Christopher was coming in from Newton so the second season has an
awkward transition phase. They were still doing the college stuff and
trying to be a bit hokier. Let's face it the Mxy episode is one of the
longest half hours of television. Metallo is pretty chessy so when he
appeared in the third season I was ready to wince cause he still
looked corny but it really showed how the tone had changed since
Metallo had become so vicious. The third season loses the college
aspect and the goofiness. Out of the episodes you listed for season 2
I probably enjoyed Betsy Russell(the android from the future) episode
best. As a kid I'd seen many Betsy Russell films including Tomboy,
where she first acted with Gerard Christopher.
Yead Sherman Howard was a great and fun Lex, back when Lex could be
the Hackman style dark genius. Luckily in the third or fourth season
we get inside Lex's head and see how he became so messed up.
The first seasons preppy Lex didnt work at all.
Anim8rFSK
<511241a5-c68d-443f...@h30g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>,
argento32 <aaron...@gmail.com> wrote:
Betsy was a hottie; I'd forgotten all about her. She was sort of Laurel
Kent as a Manhunter in this. It's one of the few I watched all the way
through.
>
> Yead Sherman Howard was a great and fun Lex, back when Lex could be
> the Hackman style dark genius. Luckily in the third or fourth season
> we get inside Lex's head and see how he became so messed up.
>
> The first seasons preppy Lex didnt work at all.
What's with a guy who keeps bragging how rich he is (and apparently is
from his set up) and uses his evil genius to rig college basketball
games? By blackmailing players by sticking a joint in their hand and
taking a photo?
Wickeddoll
Wickeddoll
>>>> "BC"
So am I - mostly; about Hollywood.
Natalie
Wickeddoll
> Wickeddoll wrote:
Maybe he should think about baseball.
Natalie
Wickeddoll
> Second film was not so good IMO. I didn't like the notion that the
> scientist was a good guy but driven by the power of a mechanical set of
> arms. At first he controls the arms then late he can't control the arms
> etc. so it looked liked back pedaling on the concept. Also he reveals his
> identity to everyone in the second ep in the railcar or whatever he had to
> stop that damaged his outfit.
Well you know all brilliant scientists are insane in comics and movies!
It's a cliche, but I doubt it'll die anytime soon.
>
> Then there was the end where he chooses to reject Kiki and decides to wear
> the faggy costume and embrace a life of celebacy.
Kiki?
>
> Movie 3 I just couldn't bring myself to watch any more -- I passed on it.
>
>
LOL you didn't miss much, unfortunately. Though, I loved Thomas Haden
Church in this one. He was technically a villain, but he did things
more out of desperation to save his sick child. You felt for the guy.
He also tried very hard not to hurt anyone.
Natalie
BC
"Wickeddoll" <n...@chance.dude> wrote in message
Kirsten Dunst voice of Kiki in Kiki's Delivery Service (1989 Japanese
animation). She's sometimes called that.
>>
>> Movie 3 I just couldn't bring myself to watch any more -- I passed on it.
> LOL you didn't miss much, unfortunately. Though, I loved Thomas Haden
> Church in this one. He was technically a villain, but he did things more
> out of desperation to save his sick child. You felt for the guy. He also
> tried very hard not to hurt anyone.
>
Sam Raimi didn't direct the third film.
Wickeddoll
> "Wickeddoll"
Ah thanks.
>
>>> Movie 3 I just couldn't bring myself to watch any more -- I passed on it.
>> LOL you didn't miss much, unfortunately. Though, I loved Thomas Haden
>> Church in this one. He was technically a villain, but he did things more
>> out of desperation to save his sick child. You felt for the guy. He also
>> tried very hard not to hurt anyone.
>>
>
> Sam Raimi didn't direct the third film.
>
>
That explains a lot...
Natalie
Anim8rFSK
Wickeddoll <n...@chance.dude> wrote:
Disagreed. Uncle Ben dying is a cornerstone of the Spider-Man mythos.
It was right from the comic.
Wickeddoll
Geek.
Natalie
BC
"argento32" <aaron...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 1, 1:07 am, "BC" <bcpho...@att.net> wrote:
> "Wickeddoll" <n...@chance.dude> wrote in message
>
>
> > BC wrote:
> >> "Wickeddoll"
> >>> argento32 wrote:
> >>> Advance Scout wrote:
> >>>>>>> Speedy
> >>>>>>> and its not Roy Harper
> >>>>>>> sheesh
> >>>>>>> they are throwing every character ever in a dc comic book at us...
> >>>>>>> while they probably wont (cant) throw Hal Jordan in (due to the
> >>>>>>> new
> >>>>>>> movie) they could always throw in their take on Alan Scott
> >>>>>>> For those of you young'uns unfamiliar with Alan here's his bio:
> >>>>>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Scott
> >>>>>> Shit or get off the pot.
> >>>>> well said!
> >>>> For me Smallville peaked in Season 2 its been coasting since then
> >>> S5 is my favorite, much to BC's chagrin, but 1-3 were very good. Then
> >>> there's the one I'm *not* mention. We must never speak of the
>
> >> Season 7
> > minus 3, yeah
>
> Yeah minus 3 = the points you're racking up with me, toots. :-)
I actually preferred Seasons 3 and 4 of The Adventures Of Superboy
with Gerard to the last few seasons of Smallville,
*You know, I missed ALL that and have absolutely no idea what that show is.
Anim8rFSK
Wickeddoll <n...@chance.dude> wrote:
What needs explaining is why you ever listen to BC who is, as usual,
wrong. Raimi directed Spider-Man 3, as well as writing the story.
argento32
> "argento32" <aaronpyn...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Its actually a really decent show but you could easily start in mid to
late second season and watch from there. Gerard Christopher, the lead
of superboy, was the original choice for Lois And Clark. He was turned
down after they realized that he had acted in the show they'd just
gotten cancelled to make Lois And Clark.
Wickeddoll
Uh-oh - then Raimi has some 'splainin' to do!
Natalie