Barker Snubs the Emmys
Dave Mackey
MJsaints wrote in article <19970519000...@ladder02.news.aol.com>..
.
>Here's an AP story you'll be interested in:
>
> LOS ANGELES (AP) - Bob Barker has decided against being a
>presenter at this year's Daytime Emmys awards show. It's a matter
>of pride.
> The host of ``The Price is Right'' said he can't take part in
>the May 21 ceremony because it snubs game shows by not airing
>awards in that category.
You go Barker! The man is definitely on our side on this one. For the last
several years the Daytime Emmys have more or less become The Soap Opera
Emmys - never mind that there are also awards given to talk/service (as it
was one time called... talk shows are hardly a service these days),
children's and informational programming.
Eddie Walker
mjsa...@aol.com (MJsaints) wrote:
>Here's an AP story you'll be interested in:
> LOS ANGELES (AP) - Bob Barker has decided against being a
>presenter at this year's Daytime Emmys awards show. It's a matter
>of pride.
> The host of ``The Price is Right'' said he can't take part in
>the May 21 ceremony because it snubs game shows by not airing
>awards in that category.
> ``We all know that game shows, along with daytime serials, have
>been the pillars of daytime TV throughout the medium's history,''
>he said.
> Barker said the shows ``Jeopardy'' and ``The Price is Right''
>together attract more viewers than any other three daytime shows
>combined.
> The game show host made his remarks in a letter to John Cannon,
>head of the National Academy of Television Arts & Sciences, which
>helps select the Emmy winners. Barker released the letter Friday.
>Sooo...Barker was probably not at the craft awards on Saturday nights. I
>say bully for Barker. I think you'll all agree...
I found out about this last week, and I was glad Bob Barker did that..
There was someone from the production team at the event this past
Saturday, at which TPIR wont best gameshow..
Eddie
TROY N. DIGGS
In article <19970519090...@ladder02.news.aol.com> jt...@aol.com (JTRH) writes:
><<However, TPIR is the ONLY daytime gameshow on TV, (I assume
>"daytime" would be considered shows that ran until 12:00 noon)>>
>I think "daytime" would include afternoon shows as well -- anything before
>4 or 5 PM. However, with regard to the "Daytime" Emmys -- Jeopardy! and
>Wheel have both been nominated in the past, regardless of their time slot.
And to prove this point, don't forget Al Roker's nomination for MSNBC's "
Remember This?", which airs at 10:30 *PM* (ET) on Fridays, Saturdays, and
Sundays...
TND
Jim Ellwanger
In article <33815...@news.prostar.com>, please....@to.the.group (Joe
Capitano) wrote:
>..and the execs at ABC said "Yay!" - right after they (and Price *Not Rosie*
>in most of the country) put The Mommies themselves out of their misery.
Although TPiR should take a lot of the credit, some must go to the numerous
ABC affiliates that run "The Mommies" during the overnight hours.
ObGameShows: ...and therefore, many ABC affiliates don't show the entire
two hours of "World News Now," a newscast which has had game show content
in the past. Mostly in the form of old ABC game show promos.
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Joe Capitano
..and the execs at ABC said "Yay!" - right after they (and Price *Not Rosie*
in most of the country) put The Mommies themselves out of their misery.
Joe Capitano Everett, WA
(...and ABC thinks Barbara Walters will do any better? REALLY???)
Zach Horan
Weren't the $100K Pyramid and Family Feud BOTH nominated when those shows
were Strictly Syndicated and often seen in Prime Time hours. Debt airs at
1:30 and 6:30 PM EST on Lifetime, and it is nominated for best GS.
bma...@mail.sgi.net
Actually, it was my understanding that the '91 $100K 'Mid was mostly a
morning show; I know it was seen at 10 a.m. in Pittsburgh and 9 a.m. in
Los Angeles.
The Beatmaster
JTRH
The Beatmaster said:
<<Actually, it was my understanding that the '91 $100K 'Mid was mostly a
morning show; I know it was seen at 10 a.m. in Pittsburgh and 9 a.m. in
Los Angeles.>>
And 9:30 a.m. in Washington, DC (leading into Bob Goen's "Wheel"). It
also ended up at 2 or 3 a.m. in a lot of places.
John Holder
Michael Klauss
>The Beatmaster said:
Cleveland never got a (good) chance to see Davidson's $100,000
Pyramid. The only station that showed it in this area is in Akron,
WAKC-23 (now the home of 24/7 informercials) at 5:30 PM and you had to
have a very strong pair of rabbit ears to get decent reception.
Go figure a big market like Cleveland wouldn't have 1 taker for a
classic game show like Pyramid.
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Jeremy Soria
Previously on alt.tv.game-shows (Thu, 22 May 1997 15:46:01 GMT), mkl...@idt.net
(Michael Klauss) wrote:
>In a prior post to alt.tv.game-shows, jt...@aol.com (JTRH) wrote:
>
>>The Beatmaster said:
>
>><<Actually, it was my understanding that the '91 $100K 'Mid was mostly a
>>morning show; I know it was seen at 10 a.m. in Pittsburgh and 9 a.m. in
>>Los Angeles.>>
>
>>And 9:30 a.m. in Washington, DC (leading into Bob Goen's "Wheel"). It
>>also ended up at 2 or 3 a.m. in a lot of places.
>>John Holder
>
>Cleveland never got a (good) chance to see Davidson's $100,000
>Pyramid. The only station that showed it in this area is in Akron,
>WAKC-23 (now the home of 24/7 informercials) at 5:30 PM and you had to
>have a very strong pair of rabbit ears to get decent reception.
>
>Go figure a big market like Cleveland wouldn't have 1 taker for a
>classic game show like Pyramid.
Down here in Southeast VA, the first season of the $100K Pyramid was seen on
WAVY-TV 10--- during the first half of TPiR at 11am. When Pyramid went to a
second season, it moved to WTVZ Fox 33 at 12 noon.
Pyramid was a very good ratings-grabber for its time; in fact, Stewart and Orbis
had placed prominent ads in Broadcasting for the show's tremendous performance.
Even though it did do well in certain markets, the show ended production after
two seasons.
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T. Jay
Jeremy Soria wrote:
>
> (Michael Klauss) wrote:
> >
> >Cleveland never got a (good) chance to see Davidson's $100,000
> >Pyramid. The only station that showed it in this area is in Akron,
> >WAKC-23 (now the home of 24/7 informercials) at 5:30 PM and you had to
> >have a very strong pair of rabbit ears to get decent reception.
> >
> >Go figure a big market like Cleveland wouldn't have 1 taker for a
> >classic game show like Pyramid.
I never remember TV 23 taking 100k Pyramid, but I do remember them
airing Buddy Hackett's version of You Bet Your Life!! I had thought
thatt either Channels 5 or 3 had a 2 hour block of game shows in the
middle of the night. Wipeout was one, and I thought Pyramid was
another.
> Pyramid was a very good ratings-grabber for its time; in fact, Stewart and Orbis
> had placed prominent ads in Broadcasting for the show's tremendous performance.
> Even though it did do well in certain markets, the show ended production after
> two seasons.
That series rubbed me the wrong way...Davidson always made it sound like
the non-$100K tourneys were all preliminaries. How many times in the
winner circle did John say, "Just remember, if you can beat 38 seconds,
you'll be a part of our next 100k Tournament!!".
My gosh, I'd be just happy to get the 10 or 25k wins! I'd be nervous
enough just playing in the winners circle for a full 60 seconds. I
don't need or want someone to keep telling me that I should play faster
to maybe win a lot more. To me, that breaks your concentration even
more!!
T. Jay
Charles Donegan
Jeremy Soria wrote:
>
> Previously on alt.tv.game-shows (Thu, 22 May 1997 15:46:01 GMT), mkl...@idt.net
> (Michael Klauss) wrote:
>
> >In a prior post to alt.tv.game-shows, jt...@aol.com (JTRH) wrote:
> >
> >>The Beatmaster said:
> >
> >><<Actually, it was my understanding that the '91 $100K 'Mid was mostly a
> >>morning show; I know it was seen at 10 a.m. in Pittsburgh and 9 a.m. in
> >>Los Angeles.>>
> >
> >>And 9:30 a.m. in Washington, DC (leading into Bob Goen's "Wheel"). It
> >>also ended up at 2 or 3 a.m. in a lot of places.
Including, as mentioned, New York, where the show aired at 2:35 AM on
WNBC, Ch. 4, during its second season. In nearby Hartford, Conn., it
aired at 3:05 AM on WVIT, Ch. 30, the local NBC affiliate.
> Down here in Southeast VA, the first season of the $100K Pyramid was seen on
> WAVY-TV 10--- during the first half of TPiR at 11am.
Much like WJZ, Ch. 13 in Baltimore, which also aired it at 11 AM. In
Richmond, VA, the show aired at 9 AM on Ch. 6, the local CBS affiliate,
right before "Family Feud".
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
Charles Donegan
Jeremy Soria wrote:
>
> Previously on alt.tv.game-shows (Thu, 22 May 1997 19:04:39 -0400), Charles
> Donegan <Cyber...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> >> >>And 9:30 a.m. in Washington, DC (leading into Bob Goen's "Wheel"). It
> >> >>also ended up at 2 or 3 a.m. in a lot of places.
> >
> >Including, as mentioned, New York, where the show aired at 2:35 AM on
> >WNBC, Ch. 4, during its second season. In nearby Hartford, Conn., it
> >aired at 3:05 AM on WVIT, Ch. 30, the local NBC affiliate.
>
> it got buried in nonexistent timeslots like 1am, 2am...
Though it was more fortunate than WoF, which as Dave Mackey pointed out,
didn't even beging airing in NY until Jan. 1984, 4 months after it
premiered.
>
> And I remember when I lived in the Quad-Cities (IL/IA), it switched with Tic Tac
> Dough at 4:30 the first six months or so at 11:30am before it got the
> much-better 4:30pm timeslot as a result of Wink going to Headline Chasers...
And speaking of HC, out here in NY, it aired at 2 AM on WABC, Ch. 7
(I only saw it a coupla times, when I was on vacation in Florida when
I was 7; it aired late in the afternoon [around 4:30 or so] over there
in Orlando)
>
> As you mentioned, Pyramid was on Channel 6 in Richmond, followed by The
> Challengers (and later Family Feud) and then TPiR. I remember whenever I had to
> do something in Richmond, I would tune the radio to 87.9FM to get the Channel 6
> signal off of the radio. I found myself playing along with the show as well.
Oh yeah; "The Challengers" DID originally air after "The $100K Pyramid"
in Richmond. During Pyramid's first season, "Family Feud" aired in the
primo 7:30 PM time slot on Ch. 6.
Chris L!
In Indianapolis, The Johnamid aired around 9:00 AM on WRTV-6 (ABC). The
same channel ran the Dick Clark $100K version at 5:00 PM (with "Break the
Bank" following for one season, IIRC).
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James Fabiano
While we're talking about Pyramid 91, I was wondering how it was different
from Dick Clark's Pyramid (1982-up). I know about the Gamble for a Grand and
Double Trouble already, and heard something about monitors replacing the
trilons (for one or both pyramids?). What else was changed, and what was kept
the same? I am mostly thinking about the set, theme song, rules, etc. in
John's Pyramid. Anyone who could help has my thanks.
J.F.
P.S. - Yes, I never saw John's Pyramid. I am not stupid or something, just
thought I'd clear that up for those of you who were curious......
Stephan Mynarkiewicz
CyberJohns wrote in article <19970523005...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
...
>>Cleveland never got a (good) chance to see Davidson's $100,000
>>Pyramid. The only station that showed it in this area is in Akron,
>>WAKC-23 (now the home of 24/7 informercials) at 5:30 PM and you had to
>>have a very strong pair of rabbit ears to get decent reception.
>
>I don't recall seeing the Davidson PYRAMID in New York City. The
stations
>think that Oprah and her evil twins are sophisticated enough.
>******************************
It was on in NYC for a time (*really* brief, if I remember correctly) on
WWOR at 4:00 PM.
The Short Circus
Charles Donegan <Cyber...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>Though it was more fortunate than WoF, which as Dave Mackey pointed out,
>didn't even beging airing in NY until Jan. 1984, 4 months after it
>premiered.
Ah, yes.....I remember getting all excited when I saw it listed in the
TV Guide. I thought Channel 2 (who originally had WoF until I believe
1991) was showing reruns of the old Chuck ones at first (wouldn't that
be nice). I vividly remember watching that first WoF, and Pat giving a
special greeting to Channel 2 viewers. I also remember Channel 2
having a WoF contest also...
To me, WoF didn't seem to take off until later in 1984. Channel 16
(from Scranton) began airing it right around the time the Olympics
started. I was thrilled because 2 came in bad on our cable. Channel 21
(from Harrisburg) began broadcasting it in the fall of '84. It has
never left its 7:00 p.m. timeslot since then.
WoF in Scranton, however, has been around all three....Moved to 22 in
1985 or 1986 (22 is CBS) and to 28 in 1992 (which is NBC) and is still
on 28...
Jeremy Soria
Previously on alt.tv.game-shows (22 May 1997 23:12:29 -0400),
jfab...@eden.rutgers.edu (James Fabiano) wrote:
>While we're talking about Pyramid 91, I was wondering how it was different
>from Dick Clark's Pyramid (1982-up). I know about the Gamble for a Grand and
>Double Trouble already, and heard something about monitors replacing the
>trilons (for one or both pyramids?). What else was changed, and what was kept
>the same? I am mostly thinking about the set, theme song, rules, etc. in
>John's Pyramid. Anyone who could help has my thanks.
The monitors replaced the trilons (flippy boxes) on the category board starting
with the second season. Monitors never replaced the Winners' Circle trilons,
though.
The lettering for the subjects in the Winners' Circle was still Arial but it was
a bit wider font than the one used on the CBS version.
The "You fucked up" buzzer in the Winners' Circle was two short buzzes
(BUZZ-BUZZ) instead of one loud BZZZZZ!, which IMO was a slightly better change
because it wouldn't be confused anymore with the Time's Up buzzer.
Other than that, not much else was changed. The set was almost exactly the same
as was the CBS version, the theme was exactly the same as the CBS version, and
as in the CBS version, 21-21 ties were played for $5000.
- Jeremy "I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV." -- Peter Berg
A famous idiotic ad line from the 1980s...
Zach Horan
The John Davidson Pyramid aired in NYC. It aired on independent Channel 55
in Long Island from Jan-Sep 1991, then Moved to 2:30 AM or so on Channel
4-WNBC from Sep.-Dec. 1991, then for three weeks in Feb-Mar 1992 it aired
on WWOR-Channel 9 in New York. The latter three weeks of shows were from
the second season with the monitors, etc.
Charles Donegan
Stephan Mynarkiewicz wrote:
>
> It was on in NYC for a time (*really* brief, if I remember correctly) on
> WWOR at 4:00 PM.
Actually, it was on at 5 PM, followed by "Family Feud" at 5:30, for a
coupla weeks in Feb. 1992 (3 months after the last new episode aired and
the show was in reruns). After Pyramid was cancelled, FF moved into
the 5 PM slot, where it stayed until Sep..
Charles Donegan
Jeremy Soria wrote:
>
> The lettering for the subjects in the Winners' Circle was still Arial but it was
> a bit wider font than the one used on the CBS version.
Actually, it was more narrow then on the CBS version.
>
> The "You fucked up" buzzer in the Winners' Circle was two short buzzes
> (BUZZ-BUZZ) instead of one loud BZZZZZ!, which IMO was a slightly better change
> because it wouldn't be confused anymore with the Time's Up buzzer.
I agree on that.
>
> Other than that, not much else was changed. The set was almost exactly the same
> as was the CBS version, the theme was exactly the same as the CBS version, and
> as in the CBS version, 21-21 ties were played for $5000.
Almost right. There was no bonus for breaking a 21-21 tie, which IMHO,
sucked.
However, despite all the problems with the Davidson version, I still
watched it EVERY DAY during its run. (I remember being VERY excited
when I heard that TV-55 had picked it up out here on Long Island)
bma...@mail.sgi.net
Jeremy Soria wrote:
> The buzzer in the Winners' Circle was two short buzzes
> (BUZZ-BUZZ) instead of one loud BZZZZZ!, which IMO was a slightly better change
> because it wouldn't be confused anymore with the Time's Up buzzer.
I totally disagree with this. I have almost the entire run of the '91
"Pyramid" on tape, and I have seen many instances where the celebrity
didn't even hear the "double" buzzer because it was too quick and too
faint. The box the celeb was working on would turn twice, the next box
would open, and the celeb would be very confused.
The Beatmaster
Stephan Mynarkiewicz
Jeremy Soria wrote in article <3385e3e1...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>...
>Previously on alt.tv.game-shows (22 May 1997 23:12:29 -0400),
>jfab...@eden.rutgers.edu (James Fabiano) wrote:
>Other than that, not much else was changed. The set was almost exactly the
same
>as was the CBS version, the theme was exactly the same as the CBS version,
and
>as in the CBS version, 21-21 ties were played for $5000.
>
>- Jeremy
>
If you want to be *really* technical about things they changed, you could
include the pattern of the lights on the endgame trilons when they came
from/went to the commercials. Instead of building up to where all six
trilons would light then repeat in the old version, they had it such that
the rows would alternately be lit (bottom, middle, top, then it would
repeat). Like I said, that's a real nitpick kind of change that you really
had to be observant of.
Stephan Mynarkiewicz
Charles Donegan wrote in article <3385A4...@worldnet.att.net>...
>Stephan Mynarkiewicz wrote:
>>
>> It was on in NYC for a time (*really* brief, if I remember correctly)
on
>> WWOR at 4:00 PM.
>
>Actually, it was on at 5 PM, followed by "Family Feud" at 5:30, for a
>coupla weeks in Feb. 1992 (3 months after the last new episode aired and
>the show was in reruns). After Pyramid was cancelled, FF moved into
>the 5 PM slot, where it stayed until Sep..
>
>Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
>
Yep, you're right, it was 5:00 (probably why I didn't remember cause it was
there and gone practically in a flash)
Jeremy Soria
Previously on alt.tv.game-shows (Fri, 23 May 1997 23:06:43 -0400),
bma...@mail.sgi.net wrote:
>Jeremy Soria wrote:
>
>> The "you fucked up" buzzer in the Winners' Circle was two short buzzes
Perhaps if John Davidson had done a Dick Clark and yelled out "NEXT!!!" as soon
as that happened, as Dick Clark did back when he did it.
Randy Amasia
Charles Donegan <Cyber...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in article
<3384F8...@worldnet.att.net>...
> Jeremy Soria wrote:
> >
> > Previously on alt.tv.game-shows (Thu, 22 May 1997 19:04:39
-0400), Charles
> > Donegan <Cyber...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >
> > >> >>And 9:30 a.m. in Washington, DC (leading into Bob
Goen's "Wheel"). It
> > >> >>also ended up at 2 or 3 a.m. in a lot of places.
> > >
> > >Including, as mentioned, New York, where the show aired at
2:35 AM on
> > >WNBC, Ch. 4, during its second season. In nearby Hartford,
Conn., it
> > >aired at 3:05 AM on WVIT, Ch. 30, the local NBC affiliate.
> >
> > It could have been another Jeopardy!... when J! first
returned to the airwaves,
> > it got buried in nonexistent timeslots like 1am, 2am...
KNXT (the then call-letters of our CBS O & O) abruptly axed the
first season of Headline Hustlers and J! six weeks into its run
-- no announcement, no nothing. Tuned in one day only to find a
rerun of Quincy.
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Previously on alt.tv.game-shows (24 May 1997 16:41:21 GMT), "Randy Amasia"
<NOra...@loop.comSPAM> wrote:
>KNXT (the then call-letters of our CBS O & O) abruptly axed the
>first season of Headline Hustlers and J! six weeks into its run
>-- no announcement, no nothing. Tuned in one day only to find a
>rerun of Quincy.
That must be the incident to which Alex Trebek referred in The Jeopardy! Book:
"During that initial season... unless the viewers were insomniacs or
irrepressible fans, they didn't know we existed. In Los Angeles we... were not
pulling in particularly good ratings. In fact, one afternoon I was being
interviewed by an important UPI correspondent, who admitted he hadn't seen the
new version of the show, so I proudly flipped to our station, and instead of
finding J! was greeted by Jack Klugman in a re-run of Quincy. I called the
station and was told that J! had been canceled. The fact that Quincy was a
coroner seemed appropriate to me at that embarassing moment."
- Jeremy "I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV." -- Peter Bergman
A famous idiotic ad line from the 1980s...
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Randy Amasia
Jeremy Soria and I conversed:
>
> >KNXT (the then call-letters of our CBS O & O) abruptly axed
the
> >first season of Headline Hustlers and J! six weeks into its
run
> >-- no announcement, no nothing. Tuned in one day only to
find a
> >rerun of Quincy.
>
> That must be the incident to which Alex Trebek referred in The
Jeopardy! Book:
Yeppers.
A few months later, LA's "very independent" KCOP, Channel 13
picked it up and paired it with WoF. A few years after that,
both shows found themeslves a new LA home...KNXT (by then, KCBS,
I believe). Then, a few years ago, they moved to where they are
now, KABC, Channel 7.
Randy Amasia
Jeremy Soria <jes...@REMOVEix.TOnetcom.REPLYcom> wrote in
article <338665cd...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>...
> Previously on alt.tv.game-shows (Fri, 23 May 1997 23:06:43
-0400),
> bma...@mail.sgi.net wrote:
>
> >Jeremy Soria wrote:
> >
> >> The "you fucked up" buzzer in the Winners' Circle was two
short buzzes
> >> (BUZZ-BUZZ) instead of one loud BZZZZZ!, which IMO was a
slightly better change
> >> because it wouldn't be confused anymore with the Time's Up
buzzer.
> >
> >I totally disagree with this. I have almost the entire run of
the '91
> >"Pyramid" on tape, and I have seen many instances where the
celebrity
> >didn't even hear the "double" buzzer because it was too quick
and too
> >faint. The box the celeb was working on would turn twice, the
next box
> >would open, and the celeb would be very confused.
>
> Perhaps if John Davidson had done a Dick Clark and yelled out
"NEXT!!!" as soon
> as that happened, as Dick Clark did back when he did it.
But that would have required John Davidson to be competent.
Isn't that asking a lot?
Charles Donegan
Stephan Mynarkiewicz wrote:
>
> If you want to be *really* technical about things they changed, you could
> include the pattern of the lights on the endgame trilons when they came
> from/went to the commercials. Instead of building up to where all six
> trilons would light then repeat in the old version, they had it such that
> the rows would alternately be lit (bottom, middle, top, then it would
> repeat). Like I said, that's a real nitpick kind of change that you really
> had to be observant of.
I noticed that too! It was during the second season; also, the flashing
pattern of the lights on the Pyramid changed.
Hmmm...I seem to recall that same pattern being experimented with on
the Dick Clark "$25K Pyramid"; it was in an early episode, if I remember
correctly. My memory is kinda hazy on this one...anyone care to help
me out? (Paging the Beatmaster...)
T. Jay
Randy Amasia wrote:
> A few months later, LA's "very independent" KCOP, Channel 13
> picked it up and paired it with WoF. A few years after that,
> both shows found themeslves a new LA home...KNXT (by then, KCBS,
> I believe). Then, a few years ago, they moved to where they are
> now, KABC, Channel 7.
I am so surprised that in one of the Big 3 TV markets, or in ANY TV
market that J! & WoF didn't stay on one local affiliate for all umpteen
years of its current run.
Speaking on behalf of the Toledo and Cleveland Markets, ever since Wheel
& J! have been King World Syndies, they have only had one home -- WTOL
(Ch. 11)/Toledo and WEWS (Ch. 5)/Cleveland. (Also in the past in
Cleveland, all runs of Jokers Wild were on WJ(K)w-Ch 8, and the TTD/Wink
syndies were forever on Ch 5/WEWS).
Are there any other major makets who herded these cash cows from station
to station?
T. Jay
Jim Ellwanger
In article <19970527000...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, jt...@aol.com
(JTRH) wrote:
>T. Jay said:
>
><<Are there any other major makets who herded these cash cows from station
>to station?>>
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>Even as a package, they've moved around quite a lot. Examples that I know
>of:
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In Tampa:
WoF and J! started on ABC affiliate WTSP/10, then moved to NBC affiliate
WFLA/8 c. 1986, and then moved back to (what is now a CBS affiliate)
WTSP/10 in the 1989-90 season.
From about 1985 to 1989, they were also on ABC affiliate WWSB/40 in
Sarasota, which was considered to be in the Tampa market at the time. WWSB
has since been removed from our cable system, but we would always watch J!
on WWSB during those years, because WFLA had problems with the video
bleeding into the audio on J!.
--
Jim Ellwanger <trai...@mindspring.com>
<http://www.mindspring.com/~trainman1/>
"Mmmm...floor pie."
JTRH
T. Jay said:
<<I am so surprised that in one of the Big 3 TV markets, or in ANY TV
market that J! & WoF didn't stay on one local affiliate for all umpteen
Are there any other major makets who herded these cash cows from station
to station?>>
Quite a few. The 1990-91 season was the beginning of King World's attempt
to package J! and WoF together, with the objective of having them on
back-to-back from 7 to 8 (ET) on the same station in each market.
Previously, the two shows had been sold separately, and had often ended up
on different stations in the same market (although, through a clause in
both shows' syndication contracts, they were never scheduled opposite each
other.)
Even as a package, they've moved around quite a lot. Examples that I know
of:
New York: WoF started on WCBS-2, now on WABC-7.
Philadelphia: J! started on KYW-3, now on WPVI-6 (where WoF has always
been).
Washington: J! started on WRC-4 and WoF on WUSA-9; now both on WJLA-7.
Charlotte: Both shows went, as a package, from WBTV-3 to WSOC-9 to
WCNC-36.
Hartford/New Haven: WoF began on WVIT-30 and is now on WTNH-8 (as is J!,
but I don't remember where it started).
Columbia, SC: Both shows went, as a package, from WIS-10 to WOLO-25.
Greenville/Spartanburg, SC/Asheville, NC: WoF began on WYFF-4 and is now
on WLOS-13 (which, IIRC, had J! all along).
And those are just the ones I can think of.
John Holder
Christopher Slovinski
In the Grand Rapids, Michigan area $100 Pyramid was shown from Jaurary
'91 to September '91 at 11:00am on WOOD-TV 8 NBC. This was a replacment
for The Joker's Wild. The show ran directly against the Price is Right
on WWMT-TV 3 CBS, so in otherwords it really didn't have a chance. I
never did see the 2nd season of the Davidson run, so I didn't even know
there were monitors relacing the trilons. I would be cool to see an
episode like that. All I have are 2 epsides fro the 1st season.
----
Christopher Michael Slovinski
Muskegon, Michigan
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Alley/8126/index.html
Chris Holland
Randy Amasia <NOra...@loop.comSPAM> wrote in article
<01bc6860$be8d1f40$1f3fd3cf@default>...
> KNXT (the then call-letters of our CBS O & O) abruptly axed the
> first season of Headline Hustlers and J! six weeks into its run
> -- no announcement, no nothing. Tuned in one day only to find a
> rerun of Quincy.
To the dismay of this newsgroup, I would rather watch Quincy than Headline
Chasers....
Cincy43235
Since we were discussing where WOF and J! have been on the same station
since Day 1 in syndication...WCPO Cincinnati (then CBS now ABC) has
carried WOF in this order:
- Sept 1983-Sept 1984, weeknights at 7:30
- Sept 1984-present, weeknights at 7(replacing Wink's TTD)
and as for J!:
- Sept 1984-present, WCPO, weeknights at 7:30
in Dayton it has been a much different story:
- Aug 1983(yes, August - they aired a week of shows from the Ohio
State Fair)- Sept 1990 WOF on WKEF NBC 7:00
-Sept 1990-present WHIO CBS 7:00
but J! has been like a Hot Potato (no pun intended):
- Sept 1984-Sept 1990, WKEF 7:30
- Sept 1990-Sept 1991, WHIO 5:00 (ET is on WHIO at 7:30)
- Sept 1991, WHIO 11:30 (very briefly...replaced by Married...With
Children!)
J! was off the air in Dayton until Jan. 1993:
- Jan 1993-Sept 1996, WKEF(again) 7:30 (replaced none other than
Cosby's You Bet Your Life)
- Sept 1996-present, WDTN (ABC - and what station has pre-empted
General Hospital for 14 years now? They do!) 7:30
So that's the story of WOF and J! in southwestern Ohio.
"Pistol Packin' Annie!" - contestant in FTM championship round