Grandma of accused PROLIFIC serial killer of gal hookers,Robert Lee Yates,ambushed & HACKED to death w/ax,her hubby,in 1945,& was thrown into looby bin as a result,should help bolster insanity defense for Robert,who WAS already 3-4 yrs old in 1945
Joe1orbit
Interesting update on Robert Lee Yates, the 48 year old Army veteran/torture
victim in Washington, who is shaping up to be the MOST prolific newly
discovered year 2000 serial killer in amerikkka. Of course we STILL have quite
a few months to go in the year, and you NEVER know when a HUGE new serial
killing case will be "unearthed", no pun intended. :)
We are told below that the paternal grandMommy of Robert, is a MURDERESS. She
used an AX to hack her hubby to death, 55 YEARS ago, in 1945, and was thrown
into a loony bin for her impressively homicidal attack. Since Robert is 48
years old, it's QUITE likely that he had CONTACT as a baby and toddler, with
this homicidal gal, and OF COURSE Robert WAS severely abused as a child, as ALL
serial and mass killers were. We just don't know for CERTAIN who COMMITTED the
childhood tortures upon Robert. Obviously this grandma, committing MURDER when
Robert was 3-4 years old, is a VERY likely suspect, in terms of having
inflicted ABUSE upon Robert. She is LONG dead, so the pigs cannot question her.
Hopefully this NEW revelation will steer Robert's lawyers towards an INSANITY
defense. So far, they have indicated MORE of an intention to just go with a
straight Not Guilty plea at trial, although head shrinks HAVE been examining
Robert, at the request of defense lawyers. Having a HISTORY of PROVEN mental
illness, that manifested itself in outright MURDER, should help to BOOST the
STRENGTH of any insanity defense that may be mounted.
BUT, from my perspective, mental illness is NOT "hereditary", at least not
the TYPE of mental illness that leads to MURDER. The LEGITIMATE focus should be
on how INSANELY EVIL it is for society to NOT impose comprehensive Mandatory
Parental Competency Tests upon ALL humans who desire custody of children, so
that INCOMPETENT, EVIL, mentally ill biological creators can be WEEDED OUT, and
the CYCLE of limitless FAMILIAL-based child-slave torture, DESTINED to continue
generation after generation in a limitless, ongoing cycle, can be BROKEN. The
INSANE current structure, GUARANTEES that the cycle can NEVER be broken.
Mentally ill Mommy TORTURES child, under Mandatory Competency Testing, she
would NEVER have gained custody. But NO such tests exist, so she does. Tortures
child. Child is NOT "mentally ill" in the clinical sense, just a TORTURE
VICTIM, filled with rage, who goes on to unleash his/her homicidal rage upon
their OWN child-slaves, some of those child-slaves grow up to HATE themselves,
others become clinically mentally ill, others become homicidally enraged, like
their creator/owner was. This CYCLE continues generation after generation, no
CHANCE of breaking it, thanks to the INSANE Sacred Family Unit doctrine under
which your ultra-diseased society operates, GUARANTEEING that NO biological
creator is subjected to Mandatory Parental Competency Tests.
This is the SOCIETAL SYSTEM that is GUILTY of and responsible for having
CREATED Robert. Only SHALLOW thinkers will say that "Robert serially killed
because he was mentally ill, and the history of mental illness in his family
proves this." MIGHT well be TRUE, the basic gist of the above theory. BUT the
REAL reason why Robert became a serial killer was NOT because of "mental
illness running in his family", but because Robert's SOCIETY chooses to
GENOCIDALLY hand over every helpless newborn baby, as a SLAVE, to his or her
biological creators, ENSLAVING the helpless child to his biological family
unit, KNOWING that MANY such families are TOTALLY incompetent, unable to
PROPERLY care for or raise a child, and HAVE been totally incompetent for
literally THOUSANDS of years, dozens of GENERATIONS. Society REFUSES to break
this cycle, choosing instead to CONDEMN each new generation of child-slaves to
the CERTAINTY of torture, abuse, incompetent care. That is the environment that
our recently revealed tortured Martyr, Robert Lee Yates, was INCUBATED in and
CREATED by.
You can view a small facial photo of Robert over at:
http://www.msnbc.com/local/KHQ/91818.asp
Stay Strong, Robert!
Take care, JOE
The following appears courtesy of the 7/25/00 online edition of The KHQ-TV,
local Spokane, Washington NBC-TV affiliate station web site:
Yates’ grandmother may have been a murderer
July 25 - The grandmother of serial killer suspect Robert Yates was once
accused of killing her husband with an axe. That story was printed in the
Southern Standard newspaper of McMinnville, Tennessee on Sunday.
It details how Robert Yates grandmother, Novella Yates, smashed her
husband in the head four times with an axe. The newspaper story goes on to say
only that Novella Yates was charged with murder, and there’s no record of a
trial.
The killing happened in 1945 in a small town in Tennessee. The story talks
about how Yates’ father, Robert Yates Sr., eventually moved to Oak Harbor,
Washington from Tennessee. If you’d like to read the article, you can click
the link on this page.
Robert Yates Jr. faces eight murder counts in the Spokane serial killer
case, and two more murder charges in Pierce County. Yates will be back in court
in Spokane this Friday. His lawyers want more time to come up with information
to try to convince the prosecutor to not file for the death penalty.
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The following appears courtesy of the 7/25/00 online edition of The Spokane
Spokesman-Review newspaper:
Yates' grandmother killed spouse with ax
Kin of accused serial killer spent time in mental institution
Bill Morlin - Staff writer
Spokane _ The paternal grandmother of accused Spokane serial killer Robert
Lee Yates Jr. killed her husband with an ax 55 years ago, a Tennessee
newspaper reports.
Novella Johnson Yates spent time in a Tennessee mental institution after the
Oct. 19, 1945, bludgeoning death of John Taylor Yates, who was a farmer.
His wife was charged with felonious assault, but records can't be found to
show whether she was ever convicted of the crime, The Southern Standard
reported in its Sunday editions.
The newspaper is published in McMinnville, Tenn., near Nashville.
The newspaper account doesn't say whether Robert Yates, arrested in April in
Spokane and charged with killing eight women, ever met his late grandmother.
He is 48.
Yates was charged last week with two additional murders in Tacoma.
All his victims, investigators say, were women who led "high-risk
lifestyles" tied to prostitution or drugs or both.
His attorneys are expected to ask a judge this week for additional time to
put together a "mitigation package" in their attempt to convince Spokane
prosecutors not to seek the death penalty.
His family's involvement in another brutal crime shortly after the end of
World War II may be raised in the mitigation package, now being prepared by
assistant public defender Richard Fasy.
Only sketchy information is available about the ax murder, the newspaper
reported. The account is based on two 1945 newspaper articles. The newspaper
doesn't quote any surviving relatives, some of whom still live in Tennessee.
Those relatives, including Yates' father, aren't talking about the ax murder
or the serial killing case.
The suspect's sister, who lives in Deer Park, couldn't be reached Monday
evening to be asked about the crime involving her late grandmother.
Novella Yates eventually was released from the mental institution, but the
Southern Standard doesn't say when that occurred.
She never remarried and died Jan. 9, 1972, at the age of 79 in rural
Tennessee near McMinnville, the Southern Standard reported.
She is buried in the Laurel Creek Cemetery, about five miles from the
McElroy Cemetery in Van Buren County, Tenn., where her husband is buried.
No motive has been suggested for the killing.
"On the morning of Oct. 13, 1945, according to police reports, Novella
Johnson Yates, 54, awoke early and went outside to the woodshed and got an
ax," the Southern Standard reported.
"She was in her bare feet," the account said. "There had been light frost
and the trees were beginning to turn a patchy gold."
"Cradling the ax squarely in her arms, police say, she returned to the
house, closed the door quietly behind her and went into the bedroom where
her husband, John Taylor Yates, 55, slept."
"In seconds, she brought the ax down on her husband's head, striking him a
total of four times," the newspaper reported.
"Miraculously, three of the wounds were not serious, (but) a fourth slashed
the entire right side of his head, penetrating the brain," the account said.
Yates was brought to the McMinnville Medical Clinic and Hospital where he
died six days later.
The Yates lived in rural Van Buren County, Tenn., and had 10 children,
including the accused serial killer's father, Robert Lee Yates Sr.
He eventually moved from Tennessee to Oak Harbor, Wash., where his son was
raised.
Robert Yates Sr. now lives in Arizona.
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The following appears courtesy of the 7/23/00 online edition of The
McMinnville Southern Standard newspaper:
Grandson a serial killer?
Jul 23 2000
By Jackie Srouji / News Editor
Hornets swarm at the base of a hollowed tree, seeping with sap, while nearby,
an old stone angel watches over the McElroy Cemetery in Van Buren County,
standing not far from where the tombstone of John Taylor Yates rests alone in
the family plot.
Not surprisingly, the grave of his wife, Novella Johnson Yates, stands about
five miles away in the shadow of a mountain at Laurel Creek Cemetery. Near her
tombstone is the name of yet another family member, Audrey Yates Measles, and
the date, March 23, 1921.
It was a crime which shook Van Buren County.
The Yates were parents of 10 children - seven sons and three daughters - and
they lived quietly on their green patch of earth in the McElroy community, not
far from the Warren County line.
On the morning of Oct. 13, 1945, according to police reports, Novella Johnson
Yates, 54, awoke early and went outside to the woodshed and got an ax. She was
in her bare feet. There had been light frost and the trees were beginning to
turn a patchy gold.
Cradling the ax squarely in her arms, police say, she returned to the house,
closed the back door quietly behind her, and went into the bedroom where her
husband, John Taylor Yates, 55, slept.
In seconds, she brought the ax down on her husband's head, striking him a total
of four times. Miraculously, three of the wounds were not serious, however, a
fourth, slashed the entire right side of his head, penetrating the brain.
Yates, a Van Buren County farmer was brought to McMinnville's Medical Clinic
and Hospital where he would die six days later.
By that time, police had arrested his wife, charging her with felonious
assault. She was brought to the Warren County Jail and later released under a
bond of $3,000.
There are no records to indicate she was ever brought to trial, although a Nov.
19 date was set after she was indicted on a charge of first degree murder by
the Van Buren County grand jury.
After a period of time she returned to the McElroy community, living quietly
there, as well as Laurel Creek, with family members. She never remarried and
died Jan. 9, 1972 at the age of 79.
This single tragedy of the Yates' family would have gone down simply as a
darkened page in community history. It is a history most, over time, have
simply forgotten.
Forgotten, except for the recent arrest of a man thousands of miles away in
Spokane, Washington, who has been described by police as "America's most
notorious serial killer."
He is Robert L. Yates, Jr., grandson of John Taylor and Novella Johnson Yates.
His father, Robert L. Yates, was their son and spent his young years in Van
Buren County before moving to Oak Harbor, Washington.
During the early morning hours of April 19, 2000, Yates Jr., 48, was arrested
by Spokane police for the murder of Jennifer Joseph, a 16 year-old girl from
Spanaway, Washington.
However, by the end of May, the case was upgraded to an indictment on charges
of murdering a total of eight women, all allegedly engaged in prostitution and
drug use. He was also charged with robbing and attempting to kill Christine
Smith.
Spokane detectives say they now have DNA and ballistics evidence linking Yates
to at least nine of the victims of what has become known as the "Spokane Serial
Killer."
Yates, however, has pleaded innocent to eight counts of aggravated first-degree
murder in the slayings which occurred in 1997 and 1998. He has also pleaded
innocent to charges of attempted murder and robbery in one case in which the
woman survived an attack.
Spokane County prosecutors have until July 31 to decide whether to seek the
death penalty or life in prison without parole. These are the only two
sentencing options in Washington state for a person convicted of aggravated
first-degree murder.
Yates Jr. grew up in Oak Harbor, a small town on picturesque Puget Sound, where
his father, Robert Yates Sr., was an inventory specialist at Whidbey Naval Air
Station.
They were Seventh Day Adventists, strict Seventh Day Adventists. The family
kept Saturday as the sabbath, avoided alcohol and pork and never used
four-letter words. Classmates remember Yates Jr. as a "solid guy" and "Joe
Average."
Young Yates studied pre-med at Walla Walla College where he married Linda
Brewer, the daughter of a prison guard. At the age of 25, he enlisted in the
Army and ended his 18-year career as a distinguished master aviator.
Military records describe him as quiet, methodical and a soldier with
extraordinary patience. In 1996, he retired from distinguished active duty
military and moved back to Washington where he enlisted in the National Guard.
The Yates have five children - four of whom are still at home - and they live
in a quiet, upscale Spokane area neighborhood. He was employed as a $13.75
an-hour crane operator, initially being hired as a strike-replacement worker
for Kaiser Mead.
In the only statement released to date, family members told the press: "Bobby
is a loving, caring, sensitive son; a fun-loving and giving brother; an
understanding, generous and dedicated father who enjoys playing ball, and
fishing with his kids. He is the type of person you would want to have as your
best friend."
Spokane investigators say DNA test results are their key evidence in the
crimes. Their other evidence is a physical identifier which "links" all the
serial killings:
* All victims were shot in the head.
* Most were dumped at out-of-the-way areas on the edge of town.
* All victims were female and had lifestyles involved in drugs, prostitution or
both.
* In several cases, authorities say they have conclusive DNA evidence - semen -
matching the killer.
According to "Time" magazine, the mother of one of the victims looked in
disbelief at the accused killer, this balding father of five, in a navy blue
suit with wire-rimmed spectacles, and said: "He looks more like a little
mouse."
Elderly Van Buren residents, one of whom went to school with Robert Yates Sr.,
also shook their heads in disbelief. "Are you sure they have the right man?"
asked one.
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Cujo
"Lord Sir" <Lord_...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:8lmubl$1e...@edrn.newsguy.com...
> Re: Grandma of accused PROLIFIC serial killer of gal hookers,Robert Lee
> Yates,ambushed & HACKED to death w/ax,her hubby,in 1945,& was thrown into
looby
> bin as a result,should help bolster insanity defense for Robert,who WAS
already
> 3-4 yrs old in 1945
>
> Dear Joe,
>
> If Yates is now 48 then he was born between July 1951 - July 1952, about
six
> years after this incident.
>
Hey! No fair letting facts get in the way of TRUE REALITY! You're going to
enrage the kook!
Sarah
Joe1orbit wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Interesting update on Robert Lee Yates, the 48 year old Army veteran/torture
> victim in Washington, who is shaping up to be the MOST prolific newly
> discovered year 2000 serial killer in amerikkka. Of course we STILL have quite
> a few months to go in the year, and you NEVER know when a HUGE new serial
> killing case will be "unearthed", no pun intended. :)
>
> We are told below that the paternal grandMommy of Robert, is a MURDERESS. She
> used an AX to hack her hubby to death, 55 YEARS ago, in 1945, and was thrown
> into a loony bin for her impressively homicidal attack. Since Robert is 48
> years old, it's QUITE likely that he had CONTACT as a baby and toddler, with
> this homicidal gal, and OF COURSE Robert WAS severely abused as a child, as ALL
> serial and mass killers were. We just don't know for CERTAIN who COMMITTED the
> childhood tortures upon Robert. Obviously this grandma, committing MURDER when
> Robert was 3-4 years old,
Woops, you're getting carried away, Joe, she did it before
he was born... he's 48, born in 1952, she attacked the
grandfather in 1944-5?
And during that period, having a relative in a loony bin for
such a reason was considered a disgrace. If she spent the
rest of her life in the mental hospital, it is highly
_unlikely_ that he met her until sometime in the 70s.
