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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jul 2, 2020, 10:31:17 AM7/2/20
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MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MichaelE wrote ~3 hours ago:
>>> Danny Burstein wrote ~23 hours ago:
>>>> MichaelE wrote in part:
>>>
>>>>> but the lives of people with other illnesses. That was a scary prospect,
>>>>> although it was probably exaggerated even in places that were hit especially
>>>>> hard by the epidemic. New York City, for example, ended up with more
>>>>> ventilators and hospital capacity than it actually needed.
>>>
>>>> a: damn, you're both wrong and dumb.
>>>> b: and if only "Reason" had editors. That article
>>>> could and should have been cut by 90 percent.
>>>>
>>> In what way?
>
>> Danny's not being able to respond appropriately when greeted here over
>> the past several hours means that he's RapidTestCOVID-19 **positive**
>> indicating it's possible that he's infected with the COVID-19 novel
>> coronavirus and needs to call his doctor and self-quarantine per his
>> doctor.
>
> He should get a test.

Danny's doctor should be able to make arrangements for confirmatory
test(s) as needed during his self-quarantine. The priority here is to
first convince Danny to stop being possibly a "super-spreader" in his
community.

>> Link to original greeting in this thread:
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/f13DOc90UDE/dlMrtIo6AQAJ
>
>> In the interim, I am instead wonderfully hungry(
>> http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and hope you, Michael, also have a
>> healthy appetite too.
>
>> So how are you ?
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/f13DOc90UDE/drDJA6zmAgAJ

While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, Michael, not only don't have
COVID-19 but are rapture (Luke 17:37) ready and pray (2 Chronicles
7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6) Father in Heaven continues to
give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so
that we'd have much more of His Help to always say/write that we're
"wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways including especially caring to
http://bit.ly/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12 as shown by
http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) with all glory (
http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD (aka HaShem, Elohim, Abba, DEO), in
the name (John 16:23) of LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Laus DEO !

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory to
GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://bit.ly/HeartVAT
from around the heart

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist with an http://bit.ly/EternalMedicalLicense
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jul 15, 2020, 10:06:41 AM7/15/20
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MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MichaelE wrote:
>
>>> http://reason.com/2020/07/13/california-gov-gavin-newsom-orders-dine-in-restaurants-to-close-statewide/#comment-8347228
>>>
>>> California Gov. Gavin Newsom Orders Dine-In Restaurants To Close
>>> Statewide
>>> The Golden State has seen a rise in the number of new COVID-19 cases and
>>> hospitalizations.
>>> CHRISTIAN BRITSCHGI | 7.13.2020 5:42 PM
>>>
>>> Gavin-Newsom-Gage-Skidmore-Flickr
>>> California Gov. Gavin Newsom (Gage Skidmore/Flickr)
>>> California is closing down again in response to a rising number of
>>> reported COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations.
>>>
>>> This afternoon, Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) ordered restaurants, wineries,
>>> movie theaters, zoos, and museums to halt all indoor operations. Bars across
>>> the state must close down completely. Gyms, malls, churches, and salons in
>>> the 30 counties that have been on the state's Monitoring List for 3 consecutive
>>> days—including Los Angeles, San Diego, and Orange counties—must also
>>> close.*
>>>
>>> The Los Angeles Times reports that the latter closures cover counties
>>> where 80 percent of Californians live.
>>>
>>> "We're moving back into a modification mode of our original stay-at-home
>>> order, but doing so utilizing what commonly referred to as a dimmer switch,"
>>> said Newsom when announcing the new closures today. "Not 'on' open
>>> economy or 'off' shut down but a dimmer switch."
>>>
>>> The governor said that the state's number of new cases and its positivity
>>> rate (meaning the percentage of COVID-19 tests that are positive) were on
>>> the rise, as were hospitalizations.
>>>
>>> The state reported 109,910 COVID-19 cases over the past two weeks, and an
>>> additional 1,104 deaths. Just over 7,000 people have died of COVID-19 in
>>> California.
>>>
>>> Hospitalizations have increased 28 percent in the last two weeks. The number
>>> of patients in ICUs has grown by 19 percent over the same period.
>>> Nevertheless, 36 percent of ICU beds in the state are available as are 72
>>> percent of the state's ventilators.
>>>
>>> The new order comes one month after the state had announced that dine-in
>>> restaurants, retail stores, and gyms could open back up under certain
>>> physical distancing protocols.
>>>
>>> The statewide closures are only the latest tightening of the state's
>>> lockdown order. In late June, Newsom ordered bars to close in seven
>>> counties, including Los Angeles County, reported the Times. San Francisco,
>>> which is not one of the counties listed in the governor's order today,
>>> has delayed its own plans to reopen dine-in restaurants and outdoor bar
>>> service.
>>>
>>> California's closures come at a time of rising coronavirus caseloads across
>>> much of the country, and states like Texas and Florida are also reversing
>>> some of their prior reopenings of businesses
>
>> The above news should motivate us, the people of America, to redouble
>> our effort to immediately find out at any given moment, including
>> while On-line, who among us are unwittingly contagious (i.e.
>> pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to convince them to call
>> their doctor and self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping
>> this pandemic before it overruns all our hospitals starting with those
>> in California.
>
> Indeed.
>
>> Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 )
>> and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>
>> So how are you ?
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/v6wmaDqy5Y4/8UZwfHCzCgAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jul 19, 2020, 1:36:33 PM7/19/20
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MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MichaelE wrote:
>>
>> > http://reason.com/2020/07/17/andrew-cuomo-coronavirus-response-new-york-failure/
>> >
>> > Andrew Cuomo's Coronavirus Response Has Been a Failure
>> > The media's fawning interviews obscure the New York governor's record.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/bSjWS-wlEiY/DU3qH66lCwAJ

>> While Americans continue to die from COVID-19, it's actually the POTUS
>> who is failing as evident by his current attempt to cover up his
>> failure by trying to hide the hospitalization data from the CDC.
>>
>> Just as for Watergate the cover-up was worse than the crime, the CDC
>> cover-up is worse than the failure.
>
> there is no way for the CDC to hide hospitalization data.

"The Trump administration last week abruptly shifted control of
important coronavirus data from the Centers for Disease Control and
Prevention to top officials at Health and Human Services, the Cabinet
department that includes the CDC, alarming public health experts
within and outside the administration. The move took information on
virus-related hospitalizations, intensive care capacity, staffing and
crucial equipment and medicine away from an ostensibly apolitical,
science-driven agency charged with managing pandemics and health
statistics, putting it in the hands of political appointees close to
the president."

Source:
https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/editorials/article/Editorial-Anatomy-of-a-coronavirus-cover-up-15416768.php

> What are you writing about?

See above.

>> The only real way to stop the COVID-19 pandemic here in America before
>> it overruns all our hospitals is for us, the people of America, to
>> redouble our efforts to immediately find out even while On-line, at
>> any given moment, who among us are unwittingly contagious (i.e.
>> pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to convince them to call
>> their doctor and self-quarantine per their doctor.
>>
>> Indeed, I am simply wonderfully hungry (
>> http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and hope you, Michael, also have a
>> healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
>>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/bSjWS-wlEiY/sBRAmRf5CwAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jul 23, 2020, 11:04:50 AM7/23/20
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MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MichaelE wrote:
>>
>>> http://reason.com/2020/07/22/covid-19-infections-in-u-s-are-about-10-times-greater-than-reported-cases-says-study/
>>>
>>> COVID-19 Infections in U.S. Are About 10 Times Greater than Reported Cases,
>>> Says Study
>>> About 40 percent of infected persons show no symptoms but may transmit
>>> disease
>>> RONALD BAILEY | 7.22.2020 4:45 PM
>>>
>>> Researchers with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) have
>>> just published the results of blood tests seeking antibodies for COVID-19.
>>> This seroprevalence study in the Journal of the American Medical Association
>>> (JAMA) scanned blood samples taken from more than 16,000 people from 10
>>> areas around the U.S. during varying time periods in April and May. The
>>> samples are not random but were gathered from patients who were visiting
>>> their physicians or hospitals for treatments and checkups.
>>>
>>> Based on these test results, the researchers conclude that at most of the
>>> sampled areas "it is likely that greater than 10 times more [coronavirus]
>>> infections occurred than the number of reported COVID-19 cases." In fact,
>>> they estimated that the ratio of undetected infections to reported cases
>>> ranged from being six times greater in Connecticut, to 24 times greater in
>>> Missouri.
>>>
>>> The researchers caution that "extrapolating these estimates to make
>>> assumptions about population immunity should not be done until more is
>>> known" about how much long-term protection against re-infection antibodies
>>> may provide. They further note that their findings "may reflect persons who
>>> had mild or no illness or who did not seek medical care or undergo testing
>>> but who still may have contributed to ongoing virus transmission in the
>>> population." The CDC recently estimated that about 40 percent of people
>>> infected with the virus that is responsible for COVID-19 exhibit no symptoms
>>> and the chance of transmission from such people is around 75 percent.
>>
>>These, who are unwittingly contagious, are either pre-symptomatic or
>>asymptomatic.
>>
>>> The researchers estimate in the JAMA study that the percentage of people who
>>> had been infected by the time the samples were collected in April and May
>>> range from 6.9 in the New York City area to 1 percent in the San Francisco
>>> Bay area. These results are from early in the pandemic and estimates based
>>> on later antibody testing suggest, for example, that more than 20 percent of
>>> New York City residents had already been infected by the end of April.
>>>
>>> What are the implications of these findings for the future course of the
>>> pandemic in the U.S.? "The study rebukes the idea that current
>>> population-wide levels of acquired immunity (so-called herd immunity) will
>>> pose any substantial impediment to the continued propagation of [COVID-19
>>> coronavirus] in the U.S., at least for now," states an accompanying JAMA
>>> op-ed. "The size of the epidemic projected through early May 2020 in this
>>> study falls far short of the estimated herd immunity threshold of approximately
>>> 60% to 70%." As the op-ed further observes, "Seven of the 10 study locations
>>> are currently experiencing substantial, as-yet uncontrolled increases in new
>>> COVID-19 cases." On the other hand, other very preliminary evidence of more
>>> widespread T-cell mediated immunity to the COVID-19 coronavirus suggests the
>>> herd immunity threshold could be closer than antibody tests by themselves
>>> may reveal.
>>>
>>> Parsing the data presented in the JAMA study allows for the very crude
>>> calculation of the infection fatality rate (IFR) for COVID-19, that is, the
>>> percent of infected people who will die of the illness. Dividing the number
>>> of infections estimated in the JAMA study by the total number of deaths in
>>> the various regions at the time the samples were collected, yields an
>>> overall crude IFR of around 0.47 percent. This compares favorably with the
>>> median IFR estimate of 0.5 percent derived from the well-respected machine
>>> learning model developed by independent data scientist Youyang Gu. Bearing
>>> in mind that these samples were obtained during the early part of the
>>> pandemic, the IFR for the various regions in the study range from a low of
>>> 0.1 percent for Utah and a high of 1.4 percent for Connecticut, both in
>>> early May. Earlier this month the CDC upped its overall COVID-19 IFR to 0.65
>>> percent.
>>>
>>> The IFR for seasonal flu is conventionally estimated at around 0.1
>>> percent—although some researchers think that's too high—which suggests that
>>> COVID-19 is nearly 5 times more deadly than the flu. So far, more than 80
>>> percent of U.S. COVID-19 deaths occurred in people over the age of 65 years.
>>> This death rate is similar to CDC estimates that between about 70 percent
>>> and 85 percent of seasonal flu-related deaths occur in people 65 years and
>>> older.
>>>
>>> The JAMA authors conclude: "Because persons often do not know if they are
>>> infected with [the COVID-19 coronavirus], the public should continue to take
>>> steps to help prevent the spread of COVID-19, such as wearing cloth face
>>> coverings when outside the home, remaining 6 feet apart from other people,
>>> washing hands frequently, and staying home when sick." Until effective
>>> vaccines become available, that's good advice.
>>
>> The above CDC findings should motivate us, the people of America, to
>> redouble our efforts to immediately find out at any given moment,
>> including while On-line including even here on USENET, who among us
>> are unwittingly contagious (i.e. pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in
>> order to convince them to call their doctor and self-quarantine per
>> their doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic before it overruns all
>> our hospitals here in the U.S.
>
> Indeed.
>
>> Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 )
>> and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/l9KEtiYNsIk/1cO6ft_kAAAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jul 29, 2020, 10:34:23 AM7/29/20
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MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MichaelE wrote:
>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>
>>>> (CDC) 07/27/20 Again praying here ...
>>>
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/l9KEtiYNsIk/1cO6ft_kAAAJ
>>>
>>> Let us pray!
>
>> In the interim, I am indeed wonderfully hungry (
>> http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and hope you, Michael, also have a
>> healthy appetite too.
>
>> So how are you ?
>
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/l9KEtiYNsIk/ajqSItK6AgAJ

Jimmy Alpine GeD

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On 7/29/20 10:33 AM, sightwalker with a phd said:

Nothing of truth was found, but if you wish to be "free" really "free"
one can try the two pound diet from doctor sightwalker that magically
lost its earthly MD license from the state but gained a lifetime license
from on high...
Jimmy Alpha GeD

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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(100%) 07/29/20 JimmyA tragically vainjangling (1 Tim 1:6) ...

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/6ZoE95d-VKc/6mqxRgtwAgAJ

Link to post explicating vainjangling by the eternally condemned:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/-xLGqnNjAAAJ

"Like a moth to flame, the eternally condemned tragically return to be
ever more cursed by GOD."

Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement at the continued fulfillment
of this prophecy as clearly demonstrated within the following USENET
threads:

(1) Link to thread titled "LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is our #1
Example of being wonderfully hungry;"

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI%5B1-25%5D

(2) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry;"

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M

(3) Link to thread titled "A very very very simple definition of sin;"

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/xunFWhan_AM

(4) Link to thread titled "The LORD says 'Blessed are you who hunger
now;'"

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM

(5) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry like LORD Jesus;"

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/xPY1Uzl-ZNk/QeKLDNCpCwAJ

... for the continued benefit (Romans 8:28) of those of us who are
http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry like GOD ( http://bit.ly/Lk2442 )
with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to the LORD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/pIZcsOCJBwAJ

Laus DEO !

While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
(Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Laus DEO ! ! !

Bottom line:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/h5lE-mr0DAAJ

<begin trichotomy>

(1) Born-again (John 3:3 & 5) humans - Folks who have GOD's Help (i.e.
Holy Spirit) to stop (John 5:14) sinning by being
http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry (Philippians 4:12) **but** are still
able to choose via their own "free will" to be instead
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) trapped in the
entangling (Hebrews 12:1) deadly (i.e. killed immortals Adam&Eve) sin
of gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).

(2) Eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) humans - Folks who will never have
GOD's Help (i.e. Holy Spirit) to stop being
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) as evident by their
constant vainjangling (1 Timothy 1:6) about everything except how to
stop (John 5:14) sinning.

(3) Perishing humans - The remaining folks who may possibly (Matthew
19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
creatures in Christ.

<end trichotomy>

Suggested further reading:
http://T3WiJ.com

+++

someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> Subject: The LORD says "Blessed are you who hunger now ..."

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM/NSkTJxvFBAAJ

>Shame on andrew, look at his red face.

LIE.

The color of my face in **not** visible here on USENET nor is the
color of my face red for those who can see me.

>He is trying to pull a fast one. His scripture bit is found among these:
>
>'14 Bible verses about Spiritual Hunger'

Such are the lies coming from the lying pens of the
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) commentators.

That which is "spiritual" is independent of time so that there
would've been no reference to "now."

Therefore, the LORD is referring to physical hunger here instead of
the spiritual "hunger and thirst for righteousness" elsewhere in
Scripture.

Indeed, physical hunger can **not** coexist with physical thirst
because the latter results in the loss of saliva needed for physical
hunger.

It is when we hunger for food "now" (Luke 6:21a) that we are able to
eat food "now."

No such time constraints exist for "spiritual hunger."

Moreover, the perspective of Luke 6:21a through the eyes of a
physician (i.e. Dr. Luke) would be logically expected to be physical
instead of spiritual.

All glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD for His compelling you to
unwittingly demonstrate your ever worsening cognitive condition which
is tragically a consequence of His cursing (Jeremiah 17:5) you more
than ever.

Laus DEO !

+++

someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
(in a vain attempt to refute posts about being wonderfully hungry)

>Psalms
>81:10 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt:
>open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

Indeed, receiving a mouthful (Psalm 81:10) of manna from GOD will only
make His http://HeartMDPhD.com/Redeemed want even more, so that we're
even http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungrier with all glory (
http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD.

Laus DEO !

>Proverbs
>13:25 The righteous has enough to satisfy his appetite, But the stomach of
>the wicked is in need.

Indeed, the righteous know to be satisfied (Luke 6:21a) with an omer
(Exodus 16:16) of manna, while the wicked need (Proverbs 13:25) this
knowledge as evident by their eating until they are full (i.e.
satiated).

>Joel
>2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of
>the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my
>people shall never be ashamed.

Indeed, an omer (32 ounces per Revelation 6:6) of manna is plenty
(Joel 2:26) with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD and to
the shame of you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned.

Laus DEO ! !

>Psalms
>107 For he satisfies the thirsty and fills the hungry with good things.

Indeed, being filled (Psalm 107:9) with an omer (Exodus 16:16) of
manna is a Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) thing while being satiated (i.e.
full) is evil.

>Acts
>14:17 "Yet he did not leave himself without witness, for he did good by
>giving you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying
>your hearts with food and gladness."

In the interim, you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned, will
never be satisfied (Acts 14:17) because you are ever more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M/KgM8NFKuAQAJ

+++

> someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> Subject: a very very very simple definition of sin ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mXmFD9kIocc/y8GNXircBQAJ

>> Does andrew's "definition" agree with scripture? Let's see in 1 John:

Actually, sin is **not** defined in 1 John 1:8-10

>> John wrote this to christians. The greek grammer (sic) speaks of an ongoing
>> status. He includes himself in that status.

John was a Jew instead of a Greek so there is really no reason to
think that Greek grammar is relevant here.

>> 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is
>> not in us.
>>
>> 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins,
>> and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
>>
>> 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is
>> not in us.

John also wrote earlier at John 5:14 that LORD Jesus commands:

"Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." (John 5:14)

And, indeed, your being eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) & ever more
cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD, as evident by your ever worsening
cognitive deficits, is really worse.

Now again, here's how to really stop sinning as LORD Jesus commands
(John 5:14):

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ

While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
6:21a), I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
(Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Laus DEO ! ! !

Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
Pastorio.

Again, the LORD did strike down http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
day just 9+ years ago:

http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html

Again, this is done ...

http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory (
http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy

Jimmy Alpine GeD

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MichaelE wrote:
>
>>> http://ethicsalarms.com/2020/07/31/wuhan-virus-ethic-train-wreck-update/
>>>
>>>>
>>> Wuhan Virus Ethic Train Wreck Update
>>> JULY 31, 2020 / JACK MARSHALL
>>>
>>>
>>> 1. Dr. Fauci told ABC News Chief Medical Correspondent Dr. Jennifer Ashton
>>> yesterday, “If you have goggles or an eye shield, you should use it…You have
>>> mucosa in the nose, mucosa in the mouth, but you also have mucosa in the
>>> eye. **Theoretically**, you should protect all the mucosal surfaces. So if you

**emphasis** added.

>>> have goggles or an eye shield you should use it.”
>>>
>>> Now you tell us!
>
>> Actually, the vlogging of front-line medical workers, both nurses and
>> doctors, in full PPE-gear have been telling everyone this from the
>> outset of the pandemic.
>
>>> Though Fauci is in a high-risk demographic, he has never been shown
>>> wearing goggles.
>
>> Dr. Fauci has not been shown working on the front-line taking care of
>> COVID-19 patients.
>
> Dr. Fauci did not qualify his statement as applying only to front-line
> health care workers.

Theory is put into practice on the front-line (see **emphasis** above)
<snip>

"Religion that GOD our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this:
to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself
from being polluted by the world." (James 1:27)

The way (John 14:6) "to keep oneself from being polluted by the world"
(James 1:27) is to http://HeartMDPhD.com/Guard (Proverbs 4:23) the
heart (Matthew 15:19).

>> In the interim, I am simply wonderfully hungry (
>> http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and hope you, Michael, also have a
>> healthy appetite too.
>
>> So how are you ?
>
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/9rwZT_vepD4/G67YQYOpAgAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 6, 2020, 10:48:34 AM8/6/20
to
MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MichaelE wrote:
>>
>> > http://reason.com/2020/08/03/australia-imposes-curfews-closes-internal-borders-to-slow-covid-19-pandemic/
>> >
>> >
>> > Australia Imposes Curfews, Closes Internal Borders To Slow COVID-19
>> > Pandemic.
>> >
>> > Will the U.S. be next?
>> >
>> > CHRISTIAN BRITSCHGI | 8.3.2020 4:20 PM

<snip>

>> The only healthy way to stop the COVID-19 coronavirus pandemic is by
>> rapidly finding out at any given moment, including especially while
>> on-line even if just via smartphone, who among us are unwittingly
>> contagious (i.e. pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to convince
>> them to call their doctor and self-quarantine per their doctor.
>
> There is no current test that is reliable enough.

Actually, the http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 is "reliable enough"
with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD.

Laus DEO :-)

> A test with a too-high false negative rate would create flase senses of
> security among many who are truly infected.

The false negative rate for http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 is the
lowest possible at 0% because it is 100% sensitive with thanks to the
Help of "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy Spirit.

Laus DEO :-)

>> In the interim, I am indeed wonderfully hungry (
>> http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and hope you, Michael, also have a
>> healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
>>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/EsiijOS6IMU/rCBQ2gYhAQAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 10, 2020, 9:47:09 AM8/10/20
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MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MichaelE wrote:
>
>>> http://reason.com/2020/08/06/los-angeles-will-shut-off-peoples-utilities-for-hosting-parties-not-for-failing-to-pay-their-utility-bills/
>>>
>>> Los Angeles Will Shut Off People's Utilities For Hosting Parties, Not For
>>> Failing To Pay Their Utility Bills
>>>
>>> Mayor Eric Garcetti's plan to shut off utility service to violators of
>>> bans
>>> on private gatherings poses grave civil liberties and due process
>>> concerns.
>>>
>>> CHRISTIAN BRITSCHGI | 8.6.2020 5:50 PM
>>>
>>> In Los Angeles, you can have your power turned off for having parties at
>>> your house, but not for failing to pay your power bill.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti announced that he was
>>> authorizing the city-controlled Department of Water and Power (DWP) to shut
>>> off utilities to homes and businesses that host unpermitted gatherings in
>>> violation of county and city stay-at-home orders.
>>>
>>> The order comes in response to reports of large parties being held at
>>> residences across Los Angeles, including one on Tuesday night that ended in
>>> the shooting death of one attendee.
>
>> The only **healthy** way to stop the COVID-19 coronavirus pandemic is
>> by rapidly finding out at any given moment, including even while
>> on-line, who among us are unwittingly contagious (i.e. pre-symptomatic
>> or asymptomatic) in order to convince them to refrain from going out
>> to parties/gatherings and instead, to call their doctor and
>> self-quarantine per their doctor.
>
> Indeed.
>
>> In the interim, I am simply wonderfully hungry (
>> http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and hope you, Michael, and others
>> reading this, also have a healthy appetite too.
>
>> So how are you ?
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/yG_Ahp-ZCSo/F3TuFwJYAgAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 16, 2020, 2:51:57 PM8/16/20
to
Timothy Sutter wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> I am simply wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and
>> hope you, Timothy, also have a healthy appetite too.
>
>> So how are you ?
>
> i'm just peachy...i'm wonderfully hungry in all sorts of ways
>
> thank you for asking, i'm glad for you and your hungers.
>
> signing off now.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/81-rVgEIwdU/5bZMuT-GBAAJ

While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, Timothy, not only don't have
COVID-19 but are rapture (Luke 17:37) ready and pray (2 Chronicles
7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6) Father in Heaven continues to
give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so
that we'd have much more of His Help to always say/write that we're
"wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways including especially caring to
http://bit.ly/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12 as shown by
http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) with all glory (
http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD, in the name (John 16:23) of LORD

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 19, 2020, 6:55:22 AM8/19/20
to
Timothy Sutter wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> I am simply wonderfully hungry ( http://RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and
>> hope you, Timothy, also have a healthy appetite too.
>
>> So how are you ?
>
>
> hello Andrew,
>
> i'm always wonderfully hungry for more Holy Spirit, even when filled
>
> i'll probably eat some material food later.
>
> hope you are well;
>
> signing off now.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/81-rVgEIwdU/wTTy89RXBQAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 23, 2020, 7:51:24 AM8/23/20
to
Timothy Sutter wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> I am simply wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and
>
>> hope you, Timothy, also have a healthy appetite too.
>
>> So how are you ?
>
>
> hello Andrew...i'm wonderfully hungry here
>
> hope all is well with you
>
> signing off now...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/6ytiCSZWVnM/2Z1RZVwoBAAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 26, 2020, 10:21:36 AM8/26/20
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MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MichaelE wrote:
>
>>> http://reason.com/2020/08/24/do-legal-restrictions-account-for-the-downward-trend-in-covid-19-cases/?utm_medium=email#comments
>>>
>>>
>>> Do Legal Restrictions Account for the Downward Trend in New COVID-19
>>> Cases?
>>> The New York Times thinks so, but the data do not fit that hypothesis
>>> very well.
>>>
>>> Jacob Sullum | 8.24.2020 2:45 PM
>>> CoronavirusEpidemicDown
>>> (Ffikretow | Dreamstime.com)
>>>
>>> Three weeks after newly identified COVID-19 cases began falling in the
>>> United States, The New York Times is acknowledging the downward trend, which
>>> it attributes to "effective restrictions." That explanation fits neatly with
>>> the paper's reflexive enthusiasm for lockdowns, but it does not fit the
>>> data very well.
>>>
>>> Consider Arizona, where the seven-day average of daily new cases, according
>>> to Worldometer's tallies, rose more than tenfold between Memorial Day and
>>> July 7. Alarmed by that increase, Gov. Doug Ducey ordered gyms, bars, movie
>>> theaters, and water parks to close on July 23, while indoor dining in
>>> restaurants continued at 50 percent of capacity, a cap Ducey imposed on July
>>> 11. But the downward trend in new cases, which had fallen by 82 percent from
>>> the July 7 peak as of yesterday, began well before the new restrictions
>>> could have had a measurable impact (taking into account the typical five-day
>>> lag between infection and symptoms that might cause people to seek testing).
>>> That suggests other factors are at least partly responsible for the
>>> decline.
>
>> It is likely that folks residing in Arizona were just as alarmed as
>> their Governor by the July 7th news of the "tenfold" increase of
>> COVID-19 cases since Memorial and started staying home soon after July
>> 7th which is many days before the legal restrictions were ordered on
>> July 23rd.
>
>> This illustrates how the pandemic can be stopped if **everyone**
>> volunteered to stay at home until there are no more COVID-19 cases.
>
> One big problem is that the public health establishment discredited
> itself.

Psalm 127:1

> http://ethicsalarms.com/2020/06/08/oh-no-its-monday-ethics-review-6-8-2020-a-yoos-rationalization-orgy/
>
>
>"However, as public health advocates, we do not condemn these gatherings as
>risky for COVID-19 transmission. We support them as vital to the national
>public health and to the threatened health specifically of Black people in
>the United States. We can show that support by facilitating safest
>protesting practices without detracting from demonstrators' ability to
>gather and demand change. This should not be confused with a permissive
>stance on all gatherings, particularly protests against stay-home orders.
>Those actions not only oppose public health interventions, but are also
>rooted in white nationalism and run contrary to respect for Black lives.
>Protests against systemic racism, which fosters the disproportionate burden
>of COVID-19 on Black communities and also perpetuates police violence, must
>be supported."
>
>
>http://reason.com/2020/06/04/george-floyd-protesters-coronavirus-health-officials-disease/
>
>
>"
>After saying no to so many things, a significant number of public health
>experts have determined that massive protests of police brutality are an
>exception to the rules of COVID-19 mitigation. Yes, these protests are
>outdoors, and yes, these experts have encouraged protesters to wear masks
>and observe six feet of social distance. But if you watch actual footage of
>protests—even the ones where cops are behaving badly themselves—you will see
>crowds that are larger and more densely packed than the public beaches and
>parks that many mayors and governors have heavily restricted. Every
>signatory to the letter above may not have called for those restrictions,
>but they also didn't take to a public forum to declare them relatively safe
>under certain conditions.
>
>"For many public health experts who have spent weeks advising policymakers
>and the public on how to reduce their risk of getting or inadvertently
>spreading the coronavirus, the mass demonstrations have forced a shift in
>perspective," The New York Times tells us.
>
>But they could have easily kept the same perspective: Going out is
>dangerous, here's how to best protect yourself. The added well, this cause
>is important, though, makes the previous guidance look rather suspect. It
>also makes it seem like the righteousness of the cause is somehow a
>mitigating factor for spreading the disease.
>
>Examples of this new framing abound. The Times interviewed Tiffany
>Rodriguez, an epidemiologist "who has rarely left her home since mid-March,"
>but felt compelled to attend a protest in Boston because "police brutality
>is a public health epidemic." NPR joined in with a headline warning readers
>not to consider the two crises—racism and coronavirus—separately. Another
>recent New York Times article began: "They are parallel plagues ravaging
>America: The coronavirus. And police killings of black men and women."
>
>Police violence, white supremacy, and systemic racism are very serious
>problems. They produce disparate harms for marginalized communities:
>politically, economically, and also from a medical standpoint. They
>exacerbate health inequities. But they are not epidemics in the same way
>that the coronavirus is an epidemic, and it's an abuse of the English
>language to pretend otherwise. Police violence is a metaphorical plague.
>COVID-19 is a literal plague.
>
>These differences matter. You cannot contract racism if someone coughs on
>you. You cannot unknowingly spread racism to a grandparent or roommate with
>an underlying health condition, threatening their very lives. Protesting is
>not a prescription for combatting police violence in the same way that
>penicillin is a prescription for a bacterial infection. Doctors know what
>sorts of treatments cure various sicknesses. They don't know what sorts of
>protests, policy responses, or social phenomena will necessarily produce a
>less racist society, and they shouldn't leverage their expertise in a manner
>that suggests they know the answers.
>
>It's clear that we've come to the point where people can no longer be
>expected to stay at home no matter what. Individuals should feel empowered
>to make choices about which activities are important enough to incur some
>exposure to COVID-19 and possibly spreading it to someone else, whether that
>activity is reopening a business, going back to work, socializing with
>friends, or joining a protest against police brutality. Health experts can
>help inform these choices. But they can't declare there's just one activity
>that's worth the risk."- Robby Soave
>
>
>http://reason.com/2020/06/09/public-health-experts-are-embarrassing-themselves/
>
>
>"It's not that public health folks are wrong that racism and police
>brutality have significant public health consequences; while coronavirus has
>the potential to kill hundreds of thousands in a short period of time, over
>the long-term racism and state violence can cause even greater harm.
>
>But here's the thing: while it's understandable that people want to take to
>the streets to protest racism and state violence, there is no
>epidemiological or other scientific evidence that such protests will have
>positive public health effects by spurring positive social and political
>change. Any scientist or public health expert who suggests otherwise is
>engaging in political and sociological speculation that is not only beyond
>their expertise, but that really beyond anyone's expertise. But it's worse
>when such speculation purports to be scientific, from experts whose
>credibility is crucial for containing the current and future pandemics."-
>David Bernstein
>
>http://reason.com/2020/06/03/what-happened-to-the-public-health-emergency/
>
>
>"
>Some of my social media friends have been insisting for some time that many
>of the hardcore lockdown/social distancing advocates were less concerned
>about public health and more about imposing their own value system against
>what they considered an unenlightened public, and some subset of those
>people actually welcomed the lockdown because they prefer people to live on
>the government dole that to allow "capitalist exploitation." I'm not, to say
>the least, a big fan of the political and public health establishment, but I
>nevertheless thought this was too cynical, and I did (and still do) think
>that many aspects of the lockdown were justified by public health needs.
>
>Yet today we see Mayor DeBlasio arguing that protesting racism is more
>important than being banned from attending religious services indefinitely,
>and Governor Murphy of New Jersey stating that protests against racism may
>flout social distancing rules, but he's going to continue to enforce them
>against lockdown opponents.
>
>Worse yet, Slate reports that:
>
>Facing a slew of media requests asking about how protests might be a risk
>for COVID-19 transmission, a group of infectious disease experts at the
>University of Washington, with input from other colleagues, drafted a
>collective response. In an open letter published Sunday, they write that
>"protests against systemic racism, which fosters the disproportionate burden
>of COVID-19 on Black communities and also perpetuates police violence, must
>be supported."… By Tuesday afternoon, more than 1,000 epidemiologists,
>doctors, social workers, medical students, and other health experts had
>signed the letter.
>
>So much for the "expert public health community."
>
>I don't think anyone who knows me would describe me as at all credulous, but
>I think I need to get even more cynical.
>
>A final thought: For many of the left, anti-racism is basically a religion,
>and they don't want the Covid crisis to interfere with an important
>anti-racism ritual, protest. But when it comes to accommodating actual
>religion, like having a religious quorum at a funeral? Feh, that's not
>important."- David Bernstein

Again, Psalm 127:1

>> Thus, the only **healthy** way to end the COVID-19 pandemic is for us,
>> the people of America, to rapidly find out at any given moment,
>> including while On-line, who among us are unwittingly contagious (i.e.
>> pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to convince them to call
>> their doctor and voluntarily self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes
>> of stopping this pandemic so that our economy can recover here in the
>> U.S.
>
>> In the interim, I am indeed wonderfully hungry (
>> http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and hope you, Michael, also have a
>> healthy appetite too.
>
>> So how are you ?
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/rxoIQwFB4vk/jL8ba8M_CgAJ

While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, Michael, not only don't have
COVID-19 but are rapture (Luke 17:37) ready and pray (2 Chronicles
7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6) Father in Heaven continues to
give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so
that we'd have much more of His Help to always say/write that we're
"wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways including especially caring to
http://bit.ly/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12 as shown by
http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) with all glory (
http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD (aka HaShem, Elohim, Abba, DEO), in

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Sep 3, 2020, 10:29:33 AM9/3/20
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MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MichaelE wrote:
>>
>> > http://reason.com/2020/09/01/philadelphias-mayor-ordered-restaurants-closed-then-he-went-out-to-eat-in-maryland/
>> >
>> > Philadelphia Ordered Restaurants Closed. Then the City's Mayor Went Out
>> > To
>> > Eat in Maryland.
>> > Public officials are routinely undermining the legitimacy of coronavirus
>> > countermeasures by ignoring their own (often arbitrary) rules.
>> > ERIC BOEHM | 9.1.2020 1:25 PM
>> >
>> > sipaphotosten914466
>> > (Chan Long Hei / SOPA Images/Sipa/Newscom)
>> > Philadelphia Mayor Jim Kenney publicly apologized on Monday after he was
>> > busted for sneaking across the border to enjoy a meal at a Maryland
>> > restaurant over the weekend.
>> >
>> > Restaurants and bars in Maryland are allowed to offer limited indoor
>> > dining—capacity is capped at 25 percent of what would normally be
>> > allowed in
>> > an attempt to reduce the spread of COVID-19. Establishments elsewhere in
>> > Pennsylvania are operating under similar restrictions as well. But in
>> > Philadelphia, indoor dining is still fully forbidden under restrictions
>> > imposed by the city government—the one that Kenney runs. The city's ban
>> > on
>> > indoor dining, which was extended in late July amid fears of a "second
>> > wave"
>> > of COVID-19 cases in Philadelphia, is scheduled to be lifted on
>> > September 8.
>> >
>> > But Kenney apparently couldn't wait that long. A sharp-eyed
>> > restaurant-goer
>> > caught Kenney dining indoors in Maryland on Sunday. The photo quickly
>> > went
>> > viral, and Kenney's office confirmed to a local TV station that the
>> > mayor
>> > had gone south of the border to visit "a restaurant owned by a friend."
>> >
>> > Source: Instagram (@MarcVetri)
>> >
>> > On Monday, Kenney issued a more substantial apology via his Twitter
>> > account.
>> > "I felt the risk was low because the county I visited has had fewer than
>> > 800
>> > COVID-19 cases, compared to over 33,000 cases in Philadelphia," he
>> > wrote.
>> > "Restaurant owners are among the hardest hit by the pandemic. I'm sorry
>> > if
>> > my decision hurt those who've worked to keep their businesses going
>> > under
>> > difficult circumstances."
>> >
>> > Kenney is right to point out that the coronavirus risk is not the same
>> > everywhere at all times, and it certainly makes sense for different
>> > jurisdictions to adopt policies that reflect that. But his
>> > do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do approach to COVID-19 undermines the legitimacy
>> > of
>> > the harsh restrictions Philadelphia has imposed on its own restaurant
>> > industry and demonstrates a callous disregard for how those policies
>> > have
>> > impacted the city's residents and businesses. Kenney can drive across
>> > the
>> > border to Maryland easily, but a Philly bar can't pick up and move to
>> > Delaware to escape the city's lockdowns.
>> >
>> > If nothing else, Philadelphia's ban on indoor dining certainly fails
>> > what
>> > I'd call the Burgermeister Meisterburger Yo-Yo Test—a reference, of
>> > course,
>> > to a memorable scene in the most libertarian Christmas movie ever made.
>> > The
>> > test is a simple one: If a public official can't avoid breaking his or
>> > her
>> > own laws—even, as in Kenney's case, the spirit of the law—then they're
>> > probably bad laws.
>> >
>> > Unfortunately, the COVID-19 pandemic has created fertile ground for
>> > arbitrary and meaningless restrictions on economic activity. Worse, it's
>> > not
>> > clear that lockdowns have helped curb the spread of the virus. As
>> > Reason's
>> > Jacob Sullum noted last week, both Arizona and Georgia have seen
>> > COVID-19
>> > cases decline by roughly the same degree in recent weeks despite
>> > adopting
>> > far different strategies in July—Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey ordered gyms,
>> > bars,
>> > movie theaters, and water parks to close and imposed strict limitations
>> > on
>> > restaurants, while Georgia mostly allowed people to decide for
>> > themselves
>> > whether it was safe to go out.
>> >
>> > The pandemic has also created an opportunity for public officials to
>> > meddle
>> > in even sillier ways, like when New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, a Democrat,
>> > told
>> > bars they couldn't serve alcohol without also selling food—and then
>> > tried to
>> > regulate what types of food actually counted as, well, food. He's also
>> > threatened to ban not only indoor dining but also outdoor dining in New
>> > York
>> > state, which would likely condemn thousands of restaurants to failure.
>> > There
>> > is no clear public health benefit to any of that.
>> >
>> > Bars and restaurants were always going to have a hard time surviving the
>> > pandemic as more people voluntarily socially distanced and cut back on
>> > their
>> > spending in the wake of an economic downturn; public officials should
>> > avoid
>> > making the crisis worse with arbitrary rules. And if you can't resist
>> > playing with a yo-yo, maybe don't make it illegal for your constituents
>> > to
>> > do the same.
>>
>> Actually, Philly's mayor closing restaurants in his city because of
>> 33,000 COVID-19 cases and then going to eat at a restaurant outside
>> his city in a county with fewer than 800 cases isn't hypocritical.
>>
>> Instead, it illustrates how people such as Philly's mayor from areas
>> with many COVID-19 cases are potentially spreading this infectious
>> disease to people working in areas with less cases.
>
> Correct.
>
>>
>> This motivates us, the people of America, to redouble our efforts to
>> rapidly determine, including while On-line, who among us are
>> unwittingly contagious (i.e. pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order
>> to convince them to call their doctor and self-quarantine per their
>> doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic so that we all can safely
>> resume dining at all our restaurants here in the U.S.
>>
>> And indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 )
>> and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/bm6ntZ_fyzs/fMkvRprnCwAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Sep 3, 2020, 10:31:13 AM9/3/20
to
MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MichaelE wrote:
>>
>> rapidly determine, including while On-line, who among us are
>> unwittingly contagious (i.e. pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order
>> to convince them to call their doctor and self-quarantine per their
>> doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic so that we all can safely
>> resume dining at all our restaurants here in the U.S.
>>
>> And indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 )
>> and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/bm6ntZ_fyzs/fMkvRprnCwAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Sep 6, 2020, 11:06:53 AM9/6/20
to
MichaeE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote
>
>> (Philly) 09/04/20 Again praying here ...
>
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/bm6ntZ_fyzs/fMkvRprnCwAJ
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/bm6ntZ_fyzs/k9vZ_UDVDAAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Sep 8, 2020, 10:14:01 AM9/8/20
to
MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> (Philly) 09/08/20 Again praying here ...
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/kQQuv7pKJvU/MaN-YFj-AgAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Sep 11, 2020, 12:44:21 AM9/11/20
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MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MichaelE wrote:
>
>>> http://reason.com/2020/09/09/los-angeles-bans-halloween-trick-or-treating-over-coronavirus-fears/
>>>
>>> Los Angeles Bans Halloween Trick-or-Treating Over Coronavirus Fears
>>> Public health authorities are cracking down on a holiday activity where the
>>> age group least at risk of COVID-19 walks around outside wearing masks.
>
>> Actually, there is no one age group proven to be less susceptible to
>> becoming infected with the COVID-19 coronavirus. Moreover, the wearing
>> of Halloween masks instead of particle-barrier masks would make any
>> age group more susceptible to become infected.
>
> How do you deduce this?

By testing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWbFF3PLnQw

>> This motivates us, the people of America, to redouble our efforts to
>> rapidly find out at any moment, even On-line, who among us are
>> unwittingly contagious (i.e. pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order
>> to convince them to call their doctor and self-quarantine per their
>> doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic so that all children can
>> safely resume in-person gatherings such as Trick-or-Treating here in
>> the U.S.
>
>> Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 )
>> and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>
>> So how are you ?
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/mSR4XSDHm-w/Wo2yl5OUAAAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Sep 15, 2020, 9:01:25 AM9/15/20
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Timothy Sutter wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> I am simply wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-21)
>> and hope you, Timothy, also have a healthy appetite too.
>
>> So how are you ?
>
>
>
> hello Andrew,
>
>
> hmmm...let's see...how am i, how am i?
>
> why...i'm Wonderfully Hungry , my day is off to a wonderful start
>
> i hope all is well with you Andrew...and...i'm signing off now.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/71hBrrPMmwY/TLIKdnvpAQAJ

While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, Timothy, not only don't have
COVID-19 but are rapture (Luke 17:37) ready and pray (2 Chronicles
7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6) Father in Heaven continues to
give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so
that we'd have much more of His Help to always say/write that we're
"wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways including especially caring to
http://bit.ly/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12 as shown by
http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) with all glory (
http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD, in the name (John 16:23) of LORD
Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Laus DEO !

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory to
GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deu 8:3) when He blesses us right now

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Sep 15, 2020, 9:52:19 AM9/15/20
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MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MichaelE wrote:
>
>>> http://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2020/09/13/israel-to-reimpose-strict-lockdown-over-covid-19-people-will-have-to-stay-within-500-meters-of-their-homes/
>
>
>> This motivates us, the friends of Israel, to redouble our efforts to
>> rapidly find out at any given moment, including while on-line, who
>> among us are unwittingly contagious (i.e. pre-symptomatic or
>> asymptomatic) in order to convince them to call their doctor and
>> self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic so
>> that in-person gatherings can safely resume in Israel.
>
>> In the interim, I am indeed wonderfully hungry (
>> http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and hope you, Michael, also have a
>> healthy appetite too.
>
>> So how are you ?
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/lZStQVQlFAk/doTFLbXiAQAJ

While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, Michael, not only don't have
COVID-19 but are rapture (Luke 17:37) ready and pray (2 Chronicles
7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6) Father in Heaven continues to
give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so
that we'd have much more of His Help to always say/write that we're
"wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways including especially caring to
http://bit.ly/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12 as shown by
http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) with all glory (
http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD (aka HaShem, Elohim, Abba, DEO), in
the name (John 16:23) of LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Laus DEO !

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory to
GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us

Michael Ejercito

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Sep 16, 2020, 9:09:53 AM9/16/20
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On Tuesday, September 15, 2020 at 6:54:33 AM UTC-7, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
wrote:
> MichaelE wrote:
> > HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> MichaelE wrote:
> >
> >>> http://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2020/09/13/israel-to-reimpose-strict-lockdown-over-covid-19-people-will-have-to-stay-within-500-meters-of-their-homes/
> >
> >
> >> This motivates us, the friends of Israel, to redouble our efforts to
> >> rapidly find out at any given moment, including while on-line, who
> >> among us are unwittingly contagious (i.e. pre-symptomatic or
> >> asymptomatic) in order to convince them to call their doctor and
> >> self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic so
> >> that in-person gatherings can safely resume in Israel.
> >
> >> In the interim, I am indeed wonderfully hungry (
> >> http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and hope you, Michael, also have a
> >> healthy appetite too.
> >
> >> So how are you ?
> >
> > I am wonderfully hungry!
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/tlbYqtg3k_8/2SIxwrrsAQAJ
Yes, we are certain that I do not have COVID-19.


Michael

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Sep 18, 2020, 10:31:01 AM9/18/20
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MichaelE wrote on 09/18/20:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>> MichaelE wrote on 09/16/20:
>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>>>> MichaelE wrote on 09/15/20:
>>>>
>>>>> I am wonderfully hungry!
>>>>
>>>> Source:
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/tlbYqtg3k_8/2SIxwrrsAQAJ
>>>
>>>> While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
>>>> 8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, Michael, not only don't have
>>>> COVID-19 ...
>>>
>>> Yes, we are certain that I do not have COVID-19.
>
>> I am simply wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and
>> hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>
>> So how are you ?
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.atheism/kthjfCE0xvw/3luS3we9BQAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Sep 20, 2020, 11:34:32 AM9/20/20
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Timothy Sutter wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Timothy Sutter wrote:
>>
>>> hello Andrew
>>
>> I am simply wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and
>> hope you, Timothy, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
>
> i'm wonderfully hungry Andrew
>
>
> have a nice day...signing off now.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/5OpYBq0nF0E/Mwjr0vBkBAAJ

While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deu 8:3) us
to hunger, I note that you, Timothy, not only don't have
COVID-19 but are rapture (Luke 17:37) ready and pray (2 Chronicles
7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6) Father in Heaven continues to
give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so
that we'd have much more of His Help to always say/write that we're
"wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways including especially caring to
http://bit.ly/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12 as shown by
http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) with all glory (
http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD, in the name (John 16:23) of LORD
Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Laus DEO !

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory to
GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us

Michael Ejercito

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Sep 21, 2020, 9:23:30 AM9/21/20
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote in message
news:pjtemf5r77sujppet...@4ax.com...

>Timothy Sutter wrote:
>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Timothy Sutter wrote:
>>>
>>>> hello Andrew
>>>
>>> I am simply wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and
>>> hope you, Timothy, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>>
>>> So how are you ?
>>
>> i'm wonderfully hungry Andrew
>>
>>
>> have a nice day...signing off now.

>Source:
>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/5OpYBq0nF0E/Mwjr0vBkBAAJ

>While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deu 8:3) us
>to hunger, I note that you, Timothy, not only don't have
>COVID-19 but are rapture (Luke 17:37) ready and pray (2 Chronicles
>7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6) Father in Heaven continues to
>give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so
>that we'd have much more of His Help to always say/write that we're
>"wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways including especially caring to
>http://bit.ly/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12 as shown by
>http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) with all glory (
>http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD, in the name (John 16:23) of LORD
>Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

This is great news!


Michael

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Sep 21, 2020, 9:45:07 PM9/21/20
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Timothy Sutter wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> I am simply wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and
>> hope you, Timothy, also have a healthy appetite too.
>
>> So how are you ?
>
> oh, hello Andrew, i just finished a peanut butter sandwich
>
> but...of course...i remain...Wonderfully hungry...
>
> have a nice day...signing off now

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/71hBrrPMmwY/Ld0_oIPUBAAJ

While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Sep 22, 2020, 9:30:02 AM9/22/20
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MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MichaelE wrote:
>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> Timothy Sutter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> i'm wonderfully hungry Andrew
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> have a nice day...signing off now.
>>>
>>>> Source:
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/5OpYBq0nF0E/Mwjr0vBkBAAJ
>>>
>>>> While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deu 8:3) us
>>>> to hunger, I note that you, Timothy, not only don't have
>>>> COVID-19 but are rapture (Luke 17:37) ready and pray (2 Chronicles
>>>> 7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6) Father in Heaven continues to
>>>> give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so
>>>> that we'd have much more of His Help to always say/write that we're
>>>> "wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways including especially caring to
>>>> http://bit.ly/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12 as shown by
>>>> http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) with all glory (
>>>> http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD, in the name (John 16:23) of LORD
>>>> Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
>>>
>>> This is great news!
>
>> "For we are GOD's handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works,
>> which GOD prepared in advance for us to do." (Ephesians 2:10)
>
>> Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 )
>> like (Luke 6:40) Christ Jesus (Luke 4:2 x Luke 6:21 = Luke 24:42) and
>> hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>
>> So how are you ?
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/7ixdk7t6Bk8/GLfuGc6GBgAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Sep 22, 2020, 10:01:05 AM9/22/20
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Timothy Sutter wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> I am simply wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and
>> again hope you, Timothy, also have a healthy appetite too.
>
>> So again, how are you ?
>
> hello Andrew, glad to see you are well.
>
> me? why...hmmm...i'm wonderfully hungry
>
> have a nice day.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/81-rVgEIwdU/ftEuBQL9BAAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Sep 24, 2020, 5:18:01 PM9/24/20
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Timothy Sutter wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> I am simply wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and
>> hope you, Timothy, also have a healthy appetite too.
>
>> So how are you ?
>
> Hello Andrew,
>
> i'm well thank you, hope you are as well.
>
> i seem to be wonderfully hungry...
>
> i pray the Holy Spirit leaves an imprint
>
> have a nice day, signing off now.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/6ytiCSZWVnM/P6XW1uzVBwAJ

While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deu 8:3) us

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Sep 25, 2020, 10:19:13 AM9/25/20
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MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MichaelE wrote:
>>
>> > http://ethicsalarms.com/2020/09/23/an-old-ethics-dilemma-with-no-solution/
>> >
>> > On Distributing The Wuhan Vaccine: An Old Ethics Dilemma With No
>> > Solution
>> > SEPTEMBER 23, 2020 / JACK MARSHALL
>> >
>> >
>> > I was waiting for this one.
>> >
>> > Back when ventilators were the rage (before we found out that once you
>> > were
>> > on a ventilator, you were pretty much toast anyway–Science!), I had
>> > filed an
>>
>> (ventilators remain the "rage" for severe COVID-19 where around 70%
>> survive versus 0% without vent support)
>>
>> > article about the likelihood that Down Syndrome sufferers would be
>> > deemed
>> > unworthy of high priority when scarce equipment was being rationed. I
>> > never
>> > got around to writing about it, but I knew, like the giant swan in
>> > “Lohengrin,” the issue would be sailing by again. Sure enough, as the
>> > prospect of a Wuhan virus vaccine seems within view, the same basic
>> > question
>> > is being raised: if there aren’t enough vaccines for everyone, who gets
>> > the
>> > first shot (pun intended)?
>>
>> The purpose of vaccines during a pandemic is to stop the pandemic by
>> mass vaccination, which means that from the outset the plan has been
>> and still is to have enough vaccines for everyone. Short of that would
>> mean failure to stop the pandemic.
>>
>> The "basic question" is not "who gets the vaccine" but rather "what
>> percentage of the global population will be vaccinated." If the answer
>> to the latter question is less than 70%, then the effort is doomed to
>> fail even with the most effective of vaccines.
>>
>> The more important question is whether ongoing phase III trials will
>> yield a vaccine(s) that is more than 70% effective (i.e. better than
>> cloth face-masks) in preventing infection by **all** the strains of
>> the COVID-19 coronavirus (i.e. not just the original Wuhan strain but
>> also the more prevalent Euro-American strain and other lesser strains)
>> for the amount of time it will take to complete the mass vaccination
>> of the world's population. If the answer to the latter question is
>> "no" then the vaccine(s) will not stop this pandemic even if 100%
>> vaccination is achieved.
>>
>> Moreover, there is no historical precedent for vaccines ever stopping
>> a pandemic. What has stopped pandemics in the past are the public
>> health and epidemiological measures currently being undertaken.
>>
>> The only **healthy** way to possibly stop this COVID-19 pandemic
>> earlier than conventional public health and epidemiological measures
>> would otherwise allow is our redoubling our efforts to rapidly find
>> out at any given moment, including while on-line, who among us are
>> unwittingly contagious (i.e. pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic), in
>> order to convince them to call their doctor and to self-quarantine per
>> their doctor.
>>
>> Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 )
>> and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
>>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/MtlAtfmCvw8/yqoJkUT5CAAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Sep 26, 2020, 2:15:18 PM9/26/20
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Timothy Sutter wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> I am simply wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and
>> hope you, Timothy, also have a healthy appetite too.
>
>> So how are you ?
>
>
> hello Andrew, hope all is well ...
>
>
> me? i'm just getting ready to have some food to eat,
>
> so, i'm wonderfully hungry in a material sense,
>
> thank you for asking
>
> signing off now.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/PNNgdTiCg5A/ZknoqiBpCAAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Sep 29, 2020, 12:02:25 AM9/29/20
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MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MichaelE wrote:
>>>
>>>
http://ethicsalarms.com/2020/09/27/it-shouldnt-require-a-theocracy-to-decide-this-lawsuit-correctly/
>>>
>>>
>>> It Shouldn’t Require A “Theocracy” to Decide THIS Lawsuit Correctly
>>> SEPTEMBER 27, 2020 / JACK MARSHALL
>>>
>>>
>>> The Capitol Hill Baptist Church in the District of Columbia, is suing
>>> Mayor Muriel Bowser and the District government for violating its First
>>> Amendment right to worship.
>>>
>>> Good.
>>>
>>> “CHBC desires to gather for a physical, corporate gathering of believers
>>> in the District of Columbia on Sunday, September 27, 2020, and on
>>> subsequent Sundays, and would do so but for those actions of the
>>> Defendants that are the subject of this Complaint,” the lawsuit charges.
>>> It seems pretty clear that Bowser is applying one set of rules against
>>> religious institutions and another set of piorities entirely when it
>>> comes to activities she cares about. In March, Bowser (Is she the most
>>> unethical big city mayor in the U.S.? She’s certainly in the running,
>>> but it’s a tough field) issued an executive order prohibiting churches
>>> from meeting indoors or out because of public health concerns related to
>>> the pandemic. D.C.’s four-stage plan would bar in-person worship
>>> gatherings until there is an “effective cure or vaccine” for the Wuhan
>>> virus, a rule that can be counted on to wound, perhaps mortally, church
>>> communities that have been built up over many decades. Right now
>>> gatherings are supposedly limited to 100 people or up to 50 percent of
>>> the building’s capacity, whichever is fewer. The 850-member Capitol Hill
>>> Baptist Church has been meeting in a field in Virginia.
>>>
>>> The 142-year-old congregation explains in its suit that “a weekly
>>> in-person worship gathering of the entire congregation is a religious
>>> conviction for which there is no substitute. The Church does not offer
>>> virtual worship services, it does not utilize a multi-site model, and it
>>> does not offer multiple Sunday morning worship services.”
>>>
>>> The church’s covenant, to which all members must agree, pledges that
>>> they “will not forsake the assembling of [them]selves together,” as
>>> decreed in the Bible. The church’s website explains,
>>>
>>> “Since its founding in 1878, CHBC has met in-person every Sunday except
>>> for three weeks during the Spanish Flu in 1918. That changed following
>>> Mayor Bowser’s first orders concerning COVID-19 on March 11, 2020. Since
>>> that time, the members of CHBC—most of whom live in the District—have
>>> been unable to meet in person, as one congregation inside District
>>> limits (even outdoors)….CHBC has applied for multiple waivers to the
>>> policy. District officials refuse to provide CHBC with a waiver beyond
>>> 100 persons as part of a mass gathering…A church is not a building that
>>> can be opened and closed. A church is not an event to be watched. A
>>> church is a community that gathers regularly and that community should
>>> be treated fairly by the District government.”
>>
>> The Spanish Flu Pandemic of 1918 lasted longer than just three weeks.
>>
>>> Fairly? On June 10, the church asked for a waiver so the congregation
>>> could meet at currently abandoned RFK Stadium, which is large enough to
>>> permit social distancing. The mayor’s office didn’t respond to the
>>> request and subsequent appeals until September 15, and then issued a
>>> rejection stating that “[w]aivers for places of worship above that
>>> expanded capacity (100 attendees) are not being granted at this time.”
>>>
>>> Strangely, as the lawsuit points out, on June 27, 2020, the District of
>>> Columbia considered a waiver to two local companies that had wanted to
>>> set up an ad hoc drive-in movie theater at the same venue, RFK Stadium,
>>> in order “to bring people together in D.C.” That waiver was granted.
>>>
>>> But wait! There’s more!
>>>
>>> The lawsuit correctly asserts that Bowser and the District “have been
>>> discriminatory in their application of the ban on large scale
>>> gatherings,” citing a June 6 appearance by the D.C. mayor before tens of
>>> thousands of George Floyd protesters, as she declared that the crowd was
>>> “wonderful to see.” The District’s Metropolitan Police Department also
>>> has closed city streets “to accommodate protests and marches of
>>> thousands to tens of thousands of people.” The mayor has also
>>> coordinated with organizers of the Commitment March on Washington, who
>>> are planning a five-hour demonstration on the steps of the Lincoln
>>> Memorial for several thousand people. Museums, restaurants, and other
>>> entertainment venues in D.C. are open. Metro services have been restored
>>> to pre-lockdown levels.
>>>
>>> The church’s lawsuit concludes, “Creating an exception for mass protests
>>> and not other types of First Amendment activities is constitutionally
>>> forbidden content-based discrimination and thus violates CHBC’s free
>>> speech rights.”
>>>
>>> Bingo.
>>>
>>> Of course, this is a city that paints political slogans on the streets,
>>> but prosecutes citizens who either cover them up or paint their own.
>>>
>>> “The First Amendment protects both mass protests and religious worship,”
>>> the lawsuit states. “But Mayor Bowser, by her own admission, has
>>> preferred the former over the latter. When asked why she celebrates mass
>>> protests while houses of worship remain closed, she responded that
>>> ‘First Amendment protests and large gatherings are not the same’ because
>>> ‘in the United States of America, people can protest.’”
>>>
>>> They also can practice their religion. This is flagrant, arrogant double
>>> standards hostile to religion in action, and they will not stand.
>>>
>>> Just as this lawsuit was being filed a Deranged Facebook Friend had the
>>> chutzpah to post one of those ‘conservatives are hypocrites because they
>>> don’t embrace the progressive agenda and Jesus would have’ memes to
>>> waves of “likes” and “loves.” The argument is so simpleminded and
>>> deliberately misleading that it doesn’t warrant serious discussion,
>>> except that the hypocrisy of a group actively hostile to religion
>>> appealing to Jesus as an authority boggles the mind.
>>>
>>> One of the vicious talking points about to be shot at Amy Coney Barrett
>>> is that her confirmation for the Supreme Court would point the United
>>> States toward a theocracy, since she is a devout Catholic. But a
>>> competent judge who never heard of religion should be able to figure out
>>> that Mayor Bowser’s game is unconstitutional.
>>
>>
>> I am simply wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and
>> hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
>>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vIZGR9NPGhQ/Pvnr3kMTCgAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Oct 20, 2020, 10:32:51 PM10/20/20
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MichaelE wrote:
>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>>> I am simply wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and
>>> hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>>
>>> So how are you ?
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/sU_o1NuMfyI/UExdSs4RAQAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Oct 28, 2020, 10:17:25 AM10/28/20
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MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> I am simply wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and
>> hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/7zLoB1HKIdk/a06LqfjBBwAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 5, 2020, 12:03:33 PM11/5/20
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@Prince Hamdan wrote:

> Good day

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Prince Hamdan , I am simply wonderfully hungry and hope you, Prince, and others
> reading my comment at the top, also have a healthy appetite too. So how are you ?

@Prince Hamdan wrote:

> @HeartDoc Andrew I don't understand

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Prince Hamdan , taking your continued interest here to mean
> "yes, you have a healthy appetite," I, as a cardiologist, share
> with you, Prince, that it's wonderful knowing through our hunger
> that we're both not having a heart attack (aka myocardial infarction)
> at the moment in accordance with pure logic {{healthy=wonderful &
> appetite=hunger}} and advise that you try to write that you're
> "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that you are:
> So now how are you ?

***

@Prince Hamdan was unable to reply for 26 minutes ...

***

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

>@Prince Hamdan, your not being able to write that you're "wonderfully hungry"
> over the past 26 minutes since being greeted here means you, Prince, are
> #StatCOVID19Test *positive* indicating that it's possible you're unwittingly
> contagious (i.e. pre-symptomatic) needing to call your doctor & to self-quarantine
> per CDC guidelines.

Source:
http://bit.ly/Positive110420

Negative control:
http://bit.ly/StatCOVID19Test20



So let us not be a http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32)
Drumpf ( http://bit.ly/W_d_DJT_r ) or else we'll most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

servant

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Nov 5, 2020, 12:10:58 PM11/5/20
to


Andrew, the prince you name does not exist.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 5, 2020, 12:28:31 PM11/5/20
to
An eternally condemned & ever more cursed nymshifter (aka servant of
satan) wrote:
>
> Andy andy, you made the challenge to non-believers

No.

I am not the Author of "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by
the Holy Spirit" (1 Corinthians 12:3)

> , it just done don''t
> work; now done it?

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/Ym8TcuRVTkY/xR4zDAEOBwAJ

Your calling the Holy Spirit an "it" is your continuing to blaspheme
against Him.

> So fess up and stop making this face loosing (sic) claim for we believers:

You, who are eternally condemned by GOD, cannot trust (John 3:16) Him.

Those who don't trust GOD, don't really believe in their heart (Romans
10:9) that GOD raised Jesus Christ up from the dead.


Bottom line: You, who are eternally condemned, cannot be believers.


> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/Ym8TcuRVTkY/sftIKtncAwAJ

See also:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/Fh-E9VvbJ64/9zvd_bkCBwAJ

**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/ssG8UNHiHB4/zKvDQUAsAQAJ

> 5 second youtube test of this claim.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft3nBlpcv-I

Actually, instead of a test of the proof, the video (especially now
with what is in its comment section) and your vainly** citing it
further adds to the proof :-)

** "those who cite the above YouTube video as a refutation of this
scientific proof unwittingly demonstrate that they are eternally
condemned (Mark 3:29) and ever more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD as
evident by their cognitive deficits"

** Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/MfJonmgXq5U/pLim1KV1AgAJ

Laus DEO !

> It takes only one example to refute the claim.

Those who comprehend the proof are also able to acknowledge that it is
irrefutable simply because the Holy Spirit not only supports this
proof but allows a sound mind to comprehend it.

You will never comprehend this because you really are eternally
condemned.

The reason for responding here is for the benefit of believers (John
3:16) who are reading this.

+++

Within the thread titled "><> Being wonderfully hungry on 01/16/18
..."

Source:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/aYg5AnsrNn0

... an eternally condemned & ever more cursed nymshifter (aka woeful
wonder) asked:

> Does this mean the 13 starving children rescued must be nearly prfect (sic) and
> healthy?

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/aYg5AnsrNn0/vnVXV9wHAgAJ

No.

Children (and adults) who say they're "starving" (Genesis 25:32)
instead of saying they're "wonderfully hungry" (
http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) are neither perfect (Matthew 5:48) nor
healthy (John 5:14).

Moreover, whoever calls themselves "Wonderful" (Isaiah 9:6), as you've
done here, also suffers from the delusion that they're GOD on top of
the pre-existing "hunger is starvation" (2 Kings 6:29) delusion (2
Thessalonians 2:11) of the eternally condemned (Mark 3:29).

While http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes
(Deuteronomy 8:3) us to hunger, I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that
GOD continues to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned, more than ever by expanding His curse to also include your
**extended** household more than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Laus DEO !

+++

Within the thread titled > Being wonderfully hungry on 02/05/19 ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mWz5zjw6Cu8/350TfF7qDgAJ

... eternally condemned nymshifter (aka servant of satan) wrote:

> This is the 1st in a series outlining the origin and twists and turns of
> distorted logic of the 2 lb. (sic) diet.

Actually, the 2PD-OMER Approach is http://HeartMDPhD.com/NotDiet

> In the late 90's Mr. Chung gained 20 pounds. This was likely due to the
> medication he was being perscribed (sic) known to promote weight gain.

LIE.

I have no medical history of taking any prescribed medications.

Source:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident

> He saw a movie where mountain climbers were said to consume 2 lb.s (sic)
> of food. This was the start of his mistake.

LIE.

The Everest climbers were receiving 10 lbs of food per week which is
actually 1.43 lbs per day.

Source:
2007 "Be Hungry" book (ISBN: 978-0-595-45641-3), page 18.

> He reasoned if they ate 2 lb.s (sic) and had high physical activity
> he could lose the 20 lb. (sic) weight gain by doing the same.

LIE.

My physical activity was already high climbing the stairs of the
1000-bed Grady Memorial Hospital in Atlanta as a medical resident
physician instead of taking the elevators **and** I was not interested
in losing weight but rather was interested in knowing if this would be
safe for my obese patients. The reasoning here is that if it doesn't
kill me to decrease my intake from 3-4 lbs per day to 2 lbs per day,
it won't kill my obese patients who were eating 8-12 lbs per day to do
likewise.

Source:
2007 "Be Hungry" book (ISBN: 978-0-595-45641-3), page 18.

3 LIEs in a row.

You have just struck out and again have unwittingly demonstrated that
there is no truth in you, who are eternally condemned for blaspheming
(Mark 3:29) against the Holy Spirit, Who is the Spirit of Truth.

While http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes
(Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger for food, I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14)
that GOD continues to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned more than ever increasing His curse upon you by extending it
to your extended family, so that all others reading this will benefit
by learning from your example to not blaspheme (Mark 3:29) against the
Holy Spirit, in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Laus DEO !


+++

Within the thread titled <> Being wonderfully hungry on 02/06/19 ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/hX8JdCxf8HA/tA_s4eq0GgAJ

... an eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) nymshifter (aka servant of
satan), ever more cursed (Jer 17:5) by GOD, vainly wrote:

> In the first part we presented the origin and name for the diet.
> The original name was 2 lb. (sic) diet.

LIE.

The original name as codified in 2007 in the published book, "Be
Hungry" (ISBN: 978-0-595-45641-3), which remains in print and
available from AmazonDotCom, is the 2PD-OMER Approach.

Source:
2007 "Be Hungry" book (ISBN: 978-0-595-45641-3), page 18.

> Mr. Chung ...

LIE x2.

The true title for http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew is "Doctor" simply
because he has **both** an M.D. and a Ph.D. degree.

Source:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident

"This will be forever true." -- Holy Spirit (see John 3:16)

Laus DEO !

http://bit.ly/Psalm117_

> ... had misunderstood basic nutritional science in choosing 2 lbs. (sic)
> as the normal calorie intake, he did not consider it was 2 lb.s (sic) of
> dehydrated foods.

LIE.

"The Everest climbers were receiving 10 lbs of food per week which is
actually 1.43 lbs per day."

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mWz5zjw6Cu8/350TfF7qDgAJ

This fact allows possible rehydration with 0.57 lbs of water as
needed.


3+ LIEs in a row.

You have, again, struck out and have, yet again, unwittingly
demonstrated that there is no truth in you, who are eternally
condemned for blaspheming (Mark 3:29) against the Holy Spirit, Who is
the Spirit of Truth.

While http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes
(Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger for food, I again pray (2 Chronicles
7:14) that GOD continues to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are
eternally condemned more than ever increasing His curse upon you by
extending this curse to your extended family **and** all who know you,
causing them each to die in terrible agony, one by one, so that all
others reading this will benefit by learning from your example to not
blaspheme (Mark 3:29) against the Holy Spirit, in the name of Jesus
Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Laus DEO !


+++

Within the thread titled <> Being wonderfully hungry on 02/06/19 ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/hX8JdCxf8HA/rEIHube5GgAJ

... eternally condemned nymshifter (aka servant of satan), ever more
cursed by GOD, vainly wrote in the author line:

(My name is) curious

LIE x 2

Your name is not curious...

... nor are you curious.

>>> In the first part we presented the origin and name for the diet.

LIE x 2

There is only one of you, multiple nyms notwithstanding, which means
that the use of "we" here is a lie of a pathological liar.

Moreover, what is associated with being wonderfully hungry (
http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) is the 2PD-OMER Approach which is, in
fact, http://HeartMDPhD.com/NotDiet

"All who lie about the 2PD-OMER Approach blaspheme against Me. For I
am He Who inspired HeartDoc Andrew to author it." -- Holy Spirit (see
Mark 3:29 and Exodus 16:16 and Revelation 6:6)

Laus Deo !

http://bit.ly/Psalm117_

You have, again, struck out and have, yet again, unwittingly
demonstrated that there is no truth in you, who are eternally
condemned for blaspheming (Mark 3:29) against the Holy Spirit, Who is
the Spirit of Truth.

While http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes
(Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger for food, I again pray (2 Chronicles
7:14) that GOD continues to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are
eternally condemned more than ever increasing His curse upon you by
extending this curse to your extended family **and** all who know you,
causing them each to die in terrible agony, one by one, so that all
others reading this will benefit by learning from your example to not
blaspheme (Mark 3:29) against the Holy Spirit, in the name of Jesus
Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Laus DEO !

+++

Within the thread titled ><> Being wonderfully hungry on 02/07/19 ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Junjan3PPFc/UQAMVyT3GgAJ

... eternally condemned nymshifter (aka servant of satan), ever more
cursed by GOD, again vainly wrote in the author line:

(My name is) curious

LIE x 2

Your name is not curious...

... nor are you curious.

> As mentioned in part 2, Mr. Chung ...

LIE x 2

The true title for http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew is "Doctor" simply
because he has **both** an M.D. and a Ph.D. degree.

Source:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident

"This will be forever true." -- Holy Spirit (see John 3:16)

Laus DEO !

http://bit.ly/Psalm117_

> mistakenly thught (sic) the biblical omer was a
> measure of weight,ie. 2 pounds.

LIE

The Exodus 16:16 omer is, in fact, a weight measure.

"Take a jar, and put an omer of manna in it, and place it before the
LORD to be kept throughout your generations." (Exodus 16:33)

If the Exodus 16:16 omer were a volume measure, Exodus 16:33 would
have been written as "Fill an omer jar with manna and place it before
the LORD to be kept throughout your generations."

"A Biblical omer of manna weighs 2 pounds." -- Holy Spirit (see Exodus
16:16 and Exodus 16:33 and Revelation 6:6)

"An extra-Biblical omer volume measure of manna can weigh 2 pounds if
there's no settling." -- Holy Spirit (see Exodus 16:16 and Revelation
6:6 and Exodus 16:31)

Just as an ounce can be either a weight or a volume measure, so too
the omer (Biblical versus extra-Biblical). That both unit measures
start with the letter "o" did not happen by chance (Proverbs 16:33)
just as the matching of Exodus 16:33 with Proverbs 16:33 chapter &
verse numbers did not happen by chance nor that the Exodus 16 verses
bookend the 32nd verse reminding us that at Exodus 16:32, Moses really
cared more about the right amount (Revelation 6:6) of daily manna
being his legacy to the nation of Israel instead of it's composition
so much so that he lied about the LORD telling him to command his
brother, Aaron, to place a jar of an omer of manna in the Ark (a jar
that subsequently went missing from later inventories of Ark contents
because the manna became riddled with maggots proving that Moses lied
thereby explaining why his siblings later rebelled against him).

Just as cereals settle making volume measures inaccurate so that
weight measures are used on their boxes with the warning that the
boxes do not appear full because settling has occurred, so too manna,
which is likened to wafers (Exodus 16:31) settle so that the Exodus
16:16 omer measure is, in fact, a weight measure in accord with what
is written at Exodus 16:33.

Bottom line:

3+ LIEs in a row.

You have, again, struck out and have, yet again, unwittingly
demonstrated that there is no truth in you, who are eternally
condemned for blaspheming (Mark 3:29) against the Holy Spirit, Who is
the Spirit of Truth.

While http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes
(Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger for food, I again pray (2 Chronicles
7:14) that GOD continues to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are
eternally condemned more than ever increasing His curse upon you by
extending this curse to your extended family **and** all who know you,
causing them each to die in terrible agony, one by one, so that all
others reading this will benefit by learning from your example to not
blaspheme (Mark 3:29) against the Holy Spirit, in the name of Jesus
Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Laus DEO !

http://bit.ly/Psalm117_

+++

Within the thread titled ><> Being wonderfully hungry on 02/09/19 ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/LTOqk8IheKA/0kAF2EmxBAAJ

... an eternally condemned nymshifter (aka servant of satan), ever
more cursed by GOD, vainly wrote in the author line:

(My name is) curious

LIE x 2

Your name is not curious...

... nor are you curious.

> In the previous 3 parts we saw how a 20 lb. (sic) overweight Mr. Chung was
> confused about nutritional info he encountered.

LIE x 3

The true title for http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew is "Doctor" simply
because he has **both** an M.D. and a Ph.D. degree.

Source:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident

"This will be forever true." -- Holy Spirit (see John 3:16)

Laus DEO !

http://bit.ly/Psalm117_

"The Everest climbers were receiving 10 lbs of food per week which is
actually 1.43 lbs per day."

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mWz5zjw6Cu8/350TfF7qDgAJ

This fact allows possible rehydration with 0.57 lbs of water as
needed.

> His lack of knowledge led him to think 2 lb.s (sic) of food per day was an ideal
> diet for a physically active person.

LIE.

2 lbs is by definition a quantity (i.e. a weight measure), which is
logically http://HeartMDPhD.com/NotDiet else 0 lbs would also be a
diet instead of what it really is, which is fasting.

> He was also mistaken to think the biblical omer was a measure of weight, 2
> lb.s. (sic) Itt (sic) was not, instead like a quart it measured volume, in this it was
> used for grain of around some 7 pounds.

LIE x 2

Manna is **not** grain according to its description as given at Exodus
16:31 where it is likened to wafers made with honey (i.e. processed
food that is more like dessert instead of raw grain)

Moreover, the Exodus 16:16 omer is, in fact, a weight measure.

"Take a jar, and put an omer of manna in it, and place it before the
LORD to be kept throughout your generations." (Exodus 16:33)

If the Exodus 16:16 omer were a volume measure, Exodus 16:33 would
have been written as "Fill an omer jar with manna and place it before
the LORD to be kept throughout your generations."

"A Biblical omer of manna weighs 2 pounds." -- Holy Spirit (see Exodus
16:16 and Exodus 16:33 and Revelation 6:6)

"An extra-Biblical omer volume measure of manna can weigh 2 pounds if
there's no settling." -- Holy Spirit (see Exodus 16:16 and Revelation
6:6 and Exodus 16:31)

Just as an ounce can be either a weight or a volume measure, so too
the omer (Biblical versus extra-Biblical). That both unit measures
start with the letter "o" did not happen by chance (Proverbs 16:33)
just as the matching of Exodus 16:33 with Proverbs 16:33 chapter &
verse numbers did not happen by chance nor that the Exodus 16 verses
bookend the 32nd verse reminding us that at Exodus 16:32, Moses really
cared more about the right amount (Revelation 6:6) of daily manna
being his legacy to the nation of Israel instead of it's composition
so much so that he lied about the LORD telling him to command his
brother, Aaron, to place a jar of an omer of manna in the Ark (a jar
that subsequently went missing from later inventories of Ark contents
because the manna became riddled with maggots proving that Moses lied
thereby explaining why his siblings later rebelled against him).

Just as cereals settle making volume measures inaccurate so that
weight measures are used on their boxes with the warning that the
boxes do not appear full because settling has occurred, so too manna,
which is again likened to wafers (Exodus 16:31) settle so that the
Exodus 16:16 omer measure is, in fact, a weight measure in accord with
what is written at Exodus 16:33.

Bottom line:

3+ LIEs in a row by what is clearly a pathological liar.

You have, again, struck out and have, yet again, unwittingly
demonstrated that there is no truth in you, who are eternally
condemned for blaspheming (Mark 3:29) against the Holy Spirit, Who is
the Spirit of Truth.

While http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes
(Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger for food, I again pray (2 Chronicles
7:14) that GOD continues to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are
eternally condemned more than ever increasing His curse upon you by
extending this curse to your extended family **and** all who know you,
causing them each to die in terrible agony, one by one, so that all
others reading this will benefit by learning from your example to not
blaspheme (Mark 3:29) against the Holy Spirit, in the name of Jesus
Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Laus DEO !

http://bit.ly/Psalm117_

+++

Within the thread titled **Exposing the "hunger is starvation"
(Genesis 25:32) delusion (2 Thessalonians 2:11) of the eternally
condemned on 01/01/18 ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/dDW90vO_2LE

... an eternally condemned & ever more cursed nymshifter (aka woeful
wonder) asked on 01/15/18:

> Dr. chung, would you define "Schizoaffective Disorder" for us and provide
> some example symptoms?

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/dDW90vO_2LE/GdUA8Ed9AAAJ

"Schizoaffective disorder is a mental disorder in which a person
experiences a combination of schizophrenia symptoms, such as
hallucinations or delusions, and mood disorder symptoms, such as
depression or mania."

Source:
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/schizoaffective-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20354504

The key "example symptom" relevant here in your case would be your
"having false, fixed beliefs, despite evidence to the contrary"
specifically being the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis 25:32)
false&fixed belief (delusion prophesied at 2 Thessalonians 2:11) being
vanquished for other readers at:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/dDW90vO_2LE/XXLJsNBdAAAJ

The reason for the disorder is GOD cursing (Jeremiah 17:5) you to have
the mental-illness-causing http://bit.ly/HeartVAT which is a
consequence of overeating (eating more than 32 oz/day of food
according to what's written at Revelation 6:6) which is the deadly
(Proverb 23:2) Adam&Eve sin (Hebrews 12:1) of gluttony.

While http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes
(Deuteronomy 8:3) us to hunger, I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that
GOD continues to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned, more than ever by expanding His curse to also include your
**extended** household more than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Laus DEO !

Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
Pastorio.

Again, the LORD did strike down http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
day just 9+ years ago:

http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html

Again, this is done ...

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 5, 2020, 10:20:52 PM11/5/20
to
@RussV wrote:

> Cut the crap. Tou (sic) have no idea what you are talking about. Scared? Sit in your basement.

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @RussV , I am simply wonderfully hungry and hope you, Russ, and others
> reading my comment at the top, also have a healthy appetite too. So how are you ?

@RussV wrote:

> @HeartDoc Andrew I'm fine and don't wear a mask. See no cases around me.

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @RussV , taking your "fine" to mean
> "yes, you have a healthy appetite," I, as a cardiologist, share
> with you, Russ, that it's wonderful knowing through our hunger
> that we're both not having a heart attack (aka myocardial infarction)
> at the moment in accordance with pure logic {{healthy=wonderful &
> appetite=hunger}} and advise that you try to write that you're
> "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that you are:
> So now how are you ?

***

@RussV was unable to reply for 23 minutes ...

***

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

>@RussV, your not being able to write that you're "wonderfully hungry"
> over the past 23 minutes since being greeted here means you, Russ, are
> #StatCOVID19Test *positive* indicating that it's possible you're unwittingly
> contagious (i.e. pre-symptomatic) needing to call your doctor & to self-quarantine
> per CDC guidelines.

Source:
http://bit.ly/Positive103120

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 5, 2020, 10:54:02 PM11/5/20
to
@RazianA wrote:

> It's not even nearly anymore... it's OVER 100k already in Friday as per Worldometer...
> And in weeks, that'll be your Monday figures because of discrepancy on reporting
> figures based on day of the week....

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @RazianA , I am simply wonderfully hungry and hope you, Razian, and others
> reading my comment at the top, also have a healthy appetite too. So how are you ?

@RazianA wrote:

> @HeartDoc Andrew Sorry for late reply. Yup, healthy appetite and under
> self-imposed quarantine since Sept. 10th..

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @RazianA , noting that
> "yes, you have a healthy appetite," I, as a cardiologist, share
> with you, Razian, that it's wonderful knowing through our hunger
> that we're both not having a heart attack (aka myocardial infarction)
> at the moment in accordance with pure logic {{healthy=wonderful &
> appetite=hunger}} and advise that you try to write that you're
> "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that you are:
> So now how are you ?

***

@RazianA was unable to reply for 60 minutes ...

***

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

>@RazianA, your not being able to write that you're "wonderfully hungry"
> over the past 60 minutes since being greeted here means you, Razian, are
> #StatCOVID19Test *positive* indicating that it's possible you're unwittingly
> contagious (i.e. pre-symptomatic) needing to call your doctor & to self-quarantine
> per CDC guidelines.

Source:
http://bit.ly/Positive110120

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 8, 2020, 8:01:12 AM11/8/20
to
@Peochris Garlic wrote:

> i am wonderfully hungry doctor.

Source:
http://bit.ly/Negative110820

Suggested further reading:
http://bit.ly/StatCOVID19Test20

**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/7ixdk7t6Bk8/1UZehnnrAgAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 11, 2020, 9:13:17 AM11/11/20
to
MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MichaelE wrote:
>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>
>>>> See is knowing ...
>>>>
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/ZPdcXMz6ESM/xTJb80WGBwAJ
>>>>
>>>> Link to picture of medical degree (MD):
>>>>
>>>> http://migration.heartmdphd.com/gifs/md2.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Link to picture of PhD:
>>>>
>>>> http://migration.heartmdphd.com/gifs/phd2.jpg
>>>>
>>>> ... with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD.
>>>>
>>>> Laus DEO :-)
>>>>
>>>> So let us not be a http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32)
>>>> Drumpf ( http://bit.ly/W_d_DJT_r ) or else we'll most certainly die a
>>>> http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:
>>>>
>>>> http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau
>>>>
>>>> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
>>>> diabetics and other heart disease patients:
>>>>
>>>> http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory to
>>>> GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
>>>> right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://bit.ly/HeartVAT
>>>> from around the heart
>>>>
>>> Thanks for sharing!
>>
>> I am simply wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and
>> hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/plPR88Tgiow/UBcb_IdZAQAJ

While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, Michael, not only don't have
COVID-19 but are rapture (Luke 17:37) ready and pray (2 Chronicles
7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6) Father in Heaven continues to
give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so
that we'd have much more of His Help to always say/write that we're
"wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways including especially caring to
http://bit.ly/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12 as shown by
http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) with all glory (
http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD (aka HaShem, Elohim, Abba, DEO), in
the name (John 16:23) of LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Laus DEO !

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory to
GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deu 8:3) when He blesses us right now

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 14, 2020, 9:07:05 AM11/14/20
to
@Roy Jones wrote:

> Shut up; Nobody is buying this crap anymore as the illness has been proven to be
> near toothless amongst the overwhelming majority of the population, and you can
> not “stop” a virus, moron

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Roy Jones , I am simply wonderfully hungry and hope you, Roy, and others
> reading my comment at the top, also have a healthy appetite too. So how are you ?

@Roy Jones wrote:

> @HeartDoc Andrew I am wide awake and preparing for battle against the ignorant
> for the preservation of my nation that has been under attack for some time now.

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Roy Jones , taking your "wide awake" to mean
> "yes, you have a healthy appetite," I, as a cardiologist, share
> with you, Roy, that it's wonderful knowing through our hunger
> that we're both not having a heart attack (aka myocardial infarction)
> at the moment in accordance with pure logic {{healthy=wonderful &
> appetite=hunger}} and advise that you try to write that you're
> "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that you are:
> So now how are you ?

@Roy Jones wrote:

> @HeartDoc Andrew I don’t eat in the morning time; I fast 18 hours a day;
> only eating between noon and 6pm.

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

>@Roy Jones, your not being able to write that you're "wonderfully hungry"
> when greeted here means you, Roy, are
> #StatCOVID19Test *positive* indicating that it's possible you're unwittingly
> contagious (i.e. pre-symptomatic) needing to call your doctor & to self-quarantine
> per CDC guidelines.

Source:
http://bit.ly/Positive111420

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 22, 2020, 1:27:21 PM11/22/20
to
MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MichaelE wrote:
>>
>>> http://ethicsalarms.com/2020/11/20/ethics-dunce-unethical-groveler-kelly-stafford/
>>>
>>> Ethics Dunce: Unethical Groveler Kelly Stafford
>>> NOVEMBER 20, 2020 / JACK MARSHALL
>>>
>>> It’s really simple. If you don’t have the fortitude to stand up for your
>>> opinions, resist bullying and tell the social media mobs to go fry an
>>> egg, then shelter in your metaphorical womb, check with the Woke and The
>>> Wonderful about their latest agenda items and directives so you can
>>> parrot them accurately, and shut the hell up.
>>
>> Love (1 Corinthians 13:13) gives us infinite fortitude. It is further
>> written that GOD is love.
>>
>> In the interim, I am simply wonderfully hungry (
>> http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and hope you, Michael, also have a
>> healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/yAgQqQNLJQc/m/Dcnp1IkUAgAJ

While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, Michael, not only don't have
COVID-19 but are rapture (Luke 17:37) ready and pray (2 Chronicles
7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6) Father in Heaven continues to
give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so
that we'd have much more of His Help to always say/write that we're
"wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways including especially caring to
http://bit.ly/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12 as shown by
http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) with all glory (
http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD (aka HaShem, Elohim, Abba, DEO), in
the name (John 16:23) of LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Laus DEO !

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory to
GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://bit.ly/HeartVAT
from around the heart

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 25, 2020, 10:41:48 AM11/25/20
to
MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> I am simply wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and
>> hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
>>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/yjlP0dzOKeg/m/QGn5FUX3AgAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 26, 2020, 12:51:09 PM11/26/20
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James wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote
>> James wrote:
>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> James wrote:
>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> (A&E-101420) Adam & Eve were **not** born sinners simply b/c they were
>>>>>> never born:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/kQfVjI6krj0/x9Fm2PZCAwAJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Instead, they were created by GOD.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Adam was created from dust:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Then the LORD GOD formed a man from the dust of the ground and
>>>>>> breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a
>>>>>> living being." (Genesis 2:7)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eve was created from one of Adam's ribs:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Then the LORD GOD made a woman from the rib He had taken out of the
>>>>>> man, and He brought her to the man." (Genesis 2:22)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They did not become sinners until they chose (per free choice aka free
>>>>>> will which GOD allows) to commit the sin of gluttony which is eating
>>>>>> more than they needed:
>>>>>
>>>>> There is nothing in the Bible that says they committed the sin of
>>>>> gluttony.
>>>>
>>>> The definition of gluttony is having **eaten** more than needed.
>>>>
>>>> Source:
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/kQfVjI6krj0/o-EMscKhBAAJ
>>>
>>> If its not in the Bible, we have no way of knowing that.
>>
>> Source:
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/VCpuEQudr5Y/dz9_yu3mBAAJ
>>
>> The way (John 14:6) to know true (John 21:24) things, including the
>> definition of gluttony, outside of the Bible is by learning from LORD
>> Jesus Christ of Nazareth, Who is the truth, for it's written in the
>> Bible that ...
>>
>> "Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were
>> written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room
>> for the books that would be written." (John 21:25)
>>
>>>>
>>>>> Their sin was stealing fruit from a tree that didn't belong
>>>>> to them: Gen 3:11,
>>>>>
>>>>> "Have you **eaten** from the tree from which I commanded you not to eat?”
>>>>
>>>> **emphasis** added.
>>>>
>>>> This is why it's additionally written at Proverbs 23:2
>>>>
>>>> "and put a knife to your throat if you are given to gluttony."
>>>>
>>>> Which means that it's better to commit suicide, which isn't sin, than
>>>> to commit gluttony, which is A&E's original sin.
>>>
>>> Look at the context. Vs 1:
>>>
>>> "When you sit down to eat with a king,
>>> Carefully consider what is before you;"
>>>
>>> If you eat more than the king, that could embarrass him. And that
>>> would put your life in jeopardy.
>>
>> The context of the Bible is that GOD is the "KING of kings"
>> (Revelation 19:16). Moreover, GOD is omnipotent so that none are able
>> to eat as much as GOD much less more than GOD.
>
> God and the angels do not require physical substances in order to keep
> on living. They are SPIRIT beings.

It is described in the Bible that the LORD and His angels did eat with
Abraham the food that was prepared by Sarah.

Therefore, the LORD and His angels are able to eat, which simply means
they are wonderfully hungry.

>> Thus, we learn from Proverbs 23:1-2 that indeed ...
>>
>> "The definition of gluttony is having eaten more than needed." -- Holy
>> Spirit (referring to Proverbs 23:1-2)
>>
>> Therefore, what is written at Proverbs 23:2 indicates that we prepare
>> to take our own life with the "knife at our throat" because it's
>> better to have our life destroyed by our own hand than to have our
>> soul destroyed by GOD for our committing the sin of gluttony.
>>
>> "It is better for you to commit suicide than to lose your soul" --
>> Holy Spirit (referring to Matthew 16:26)
>
> That's not a Bible verse.

Instead, that is a thought from the Holy Spirit.

> Mt 16:26 says nothing about suicide:
>
> -- New King James
> Matthew 16:26 "For what is a man profited if he gains the whole
> world, and loses his own soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for
> his soul?

Matthew 16:26 does teach that indeed "It is better for you to commit
suicide (i.e. lose the whole world as you lose your life) than to lose
your soul." (Holy Spirit's thought concerning Matthew 16:26)

>>>>>> "When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and
>>>>>> pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took
>>>>>> some and **ate** it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her,
>>>>>> and he **ate** it." (Genesis 3:6)
>>>>
>>>> **Emphasis** added.
>>>>
>>>> Thus, it is very clearly written here that Eve "took some" of "the
>>>> fruit of the tree" instead of "stole some," therefore the sin for Eve
>>>> is **not** theft, but gluttony.
>>>
>>> That tree didn't belong to her to eat from.
>>
>> Neither do all the other trees in the Garden of Eden (Genesis 2:15)
>
> The Bible doesn't say God gave her all those trees. If not, then they
> are all God's. But God gave her permission to eat from all the trees
> except the one.

Actually, what is described in Genesis is that the permission was
given **before** the creation of Eve so that more accurately, the
permission was given to Adam so that Eve's sin was only gluttony while
Adam's was gluttony and disobedience were the latter another sin.

> Since that tree was not given to her, she STOLD the
> fruit from that tree. Then Adam joined her in the theft. So they
> committed multiple sins. Theft and disobedience and wanting to know
> right from wrong. (they already knew that) Rom 5:19,

If theft were their sin, GOD would not have forgiven them for not
having confessed to that along with their confessing to gluttony.

>"For just as through the disobedience of the one man many were made
>sinners, so also through the obedience of the one person many will be
>made righteous"
>
>Notice, the sin mentioned here is the one of DISOBEDIENCE.

Again, the name of the sin committed by Adam in an act of disobedience
is namely gluttony.

Note here that Scripture is very clear that the disobedience was an
act of "one man" and **not** an act of "one man and one woman" simply
because Eve did not receive the command to not commit gluttony because
it predated her creation.

>>
>>> And she knew it.
>>
>> She wasn't present for GOD's command to Adam to know it:
>>
>> "“You are free to **eat** from any tree in the garden; but you must
>> not **eat** from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when
>> you **eat** from it you will certainly die.” (Genesis 2:16-17)
>>
>> **Emphasis** added.
>
> Adam apparently told the command to Eve, since she repeated it to the
> serpent. (Gen 3:2,3

Therefore, the command was for Adam and **not** Eve.

Bottom line:

If the sin were disobedience and not gluttony, Eve would be completely
blameless and would still be immortal and alive to this day.

>> Instead, she learned the command from Adam, who apparently added to
>> GOD's words with his own that Eve also not touch the fruit or she'd
>> die. The latter is what gave an opening for satan to deceive Eve.
>>
>>> If you
>>> take something that didn't belong to you, it's called stealing.
>>
>> Neither Adam nor Eve confessed to the sin of stealing.
>
> That was their problem. They were not repentant at all.

They did confess to their sin of gluttony.

> Adam even
> tried to blame God for his actions:
>
> -- King James
> Genesis 3:12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with
> me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.

Actually, just as Eve blamed satan, Adam blamed Eve instead of blaming
GOD.

>>
>> Instead, they both confessed to the sin of having eaten more than they
>> needed.
>
> THAT'S INCORRECT. Show me the Scripture which says they committed
> gluttony. You can't, because there is none.

The only sin that can be named that is associated with eating fruit
such as figs is namely gluttony.

>>
>>"The woman You put here with me -- she gave me some fruit from the
>>tree, and I ate it." -- Adam (Genesis 3:12)
>>
>>"The serpent deceived me, and I ate." -- Eve (Genesis 3:13)
>>
>>"The definition of gluttony is having eaten more than needed." -- Holy
>>Spirit (again referring to Proverbs 23:1-2)
>
> No one knows exactly what their body needs for nourishment.

GOD knows and reveals the right amount at Revelation 6:6.


> We all
> probably eat more than what the Body demands, esp if our appetite
> center is not working properly. Notice Gen 2:16,
>
> - New Living Translation
> Genesis 2:16 But the Lord God gave him this warning: "You may freely
> eat any fruit in the garden"
>
> Notice no mention of gluttony.

Genesis 2:16 was given to Adam, when he was immortal.

For mortals, eating more than the daily amount prescribed at
Revelation 6:6 is the sin of gluttony.

>>
>>>>
>>>> Moreover, it is written at Genesis 3:5:
>>>>
>>>> "For GOD knows that when you **eat** from it your eyes will be opened,
>>>> and you will be like GOD, knowing good and evil."
>>>>
>>>> **Emphasis** again added.
>>>>
>>>> Therefore ...
>>>
>>> Their eating from it showed God that they could determine for
>>> themselves what it right and what is wrong. Therefore....
>>
>> Instead, they both confessed to the sin of having eaten more than they
>> needed.
>
> They didn't repent at all.

Actually, they did repent.

To repent simply means to stop committing the sin of gluttony as given
in the Bible by the example of Nineveh.

>>
>> "The woman You put here with me -- she gave me some fruit from the
>> tree, and I ate it." -- Adam (Genesis 3:12)
>>
>> "The serpent deceived me, and I ate." -- Eve (Genesis 3:13)
>>
>> "The definition of gluttony is having eaten more than needed." -- Holy
>> Spirit (again referring to Proverbs 23:1-2)
>
> That might be the definition of gluttony, but it has no mention of it
> here in early Genesis.

Again, the only sin that can be named that is associated with eating
fruit such as figs is namely gluttony.

>>
>> Therefore ...
>>
>>>>>> Again, for 10/19/20, here's how to stop sinning:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." -- Holy
>>>>>> Spirit (referring to John 5:14)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Source:
>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/twdqZ5BAmXU/0kkDNAYvBQAJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Suffering the "Great Tribulation" would indeed be worse.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As would becoming eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned as in the tragic
>>>>>> example of MichaelC who is being ever more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
>>>>>> GOD:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/81-rVgEIwdU/mzVPeVdKDgAJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So let us not be a http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32)
>>>>>> Drumpf ( http://bit.ly/W_d_DJT_r ) or else we'll most certainly die a
>>>>>> http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau
>>>>
>>>> In the interim, I am indeed wonderfully hungry (
>>>> http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and hope you, James, also have a
>>>> healthy appetite too.
>>>>
>>>> So how are you ?
>>>
>>> Need to eat all the time. Sugar level and such.
>>
>> Taking your feeling that "you need to eat all the time" to mean "yes,
>> you have a healthy appetite," I remind you, James, that it's really
>> Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) knowing through our hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3)
>> that we're both being blessed right now as it's written in the Gospels
>> in red&white at Luke 6:21 **and** according to pure logic
>> {{healthy=wonderful & appetite=hunger}} and advise that you try to
>> write that you're "wonderfully hungry" since we've re-established here
>> that you are:
>>
>> So now how are you ?
>
> As you said, "wonderfully hungry".

Source:
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.bible.prophecy/c/yQaaLe2SNhc/m/ZZXTb3SrDAAJ

While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, James, not only don't have
COVID-19 but are rapture (Luke 17:37) ready and pray (2 Chronicles
7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6) Father in Heaven continues to
give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so
that we'd have much more of His Help to always say/write that we're
"wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways including especially caring to
http://bit.ly/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12 as shown by
http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) with all glory (
http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD (aka Jehovah), in the name (John

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 29, 2020, 6:58:25 PM11/29/20
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Daniel (aka tesla sTinker) wrote in part:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Daniel (aka tesla sTinker) wrote in part:
>>
>>> gluttony is what has happened to most men when it comes to obeying
>>> the true Bible and What God had said to do of ...
>>
>> I am simply wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) and
>> hope you, Daniel, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
>
> tired of the deceit. I hope you are also. That, would be wonderfully
> hungry.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.bible.prophecy/c/2nitLWDA0VA/m/h4BsNTVQAQAJ

While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, Daniel, not only don't have
COVID-19 but are rapture (Luke 17:37) ready and pray (2 Chronicles
7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6) Father in Heaven continues to
give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so
that we'd have much more of His Help to always say/write that we're
"wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways including especially caring to
http://bit.ly/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12 as shown by
http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) with all glory (
http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD, in the name (John 16:23) of LORD

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 30, 2020, 12:06:17 AM11/30/20
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MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > MichaelE wrote:
> >
> > > http://ethicsalarms.com/2020/11/28/the-pandemic-creates-a-classic-and-difficult-ethics-conflict-but-the-resolution-is-clear-part-ii-the-amazing-vanishing-johns-hopkins-study/
> > >
> > >
> > > The Pandemic Creates A Classic And Difficult Ethics Conflict, But The
> > > Resolution Is Clear, Part II: The Amazing Vanishing Johns Hopkins Study
> > > NOVEMBER 28, 2020 / JACK MARSHALL
> > > open-up-protest
> > >
> > > Update and Introduction
> > >
> > > The record shows that way back on May 5, Ethics Alarms published the
> > > post titled “The Pandemic Creates A Classic And Difficult Ethics
> > > Conflict, But The Resolution Is Clear, Part I: Stipulations.” That
> > > resolution was that the lockdown was wrong, indeed tragically wrong, and
> > > that a clear-eyed, unbiased examination of the facts made that
> > > conclusion inescapable.
>
> > The only healthy way to stop the pandemic is to rapidly (
> > http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) find out at any given moment,
> > including while On-Line, who among us are unwittingly contagious (i.e.
> > pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to
> > http://bit.ly/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12) for them to call their
> > doctor and self-quarantine per their doctor.
> >
> > Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 )
> > and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
> >
> > So how are you ?
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/tGOdQY4BkHo/m/VVdTZ4BdBAAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 2, 2020, 11:44:50 AM12/2/20
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MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MichaelE wrote:
>>
>>> http://ethicsalarms.com/2020/11/30/kaboom-the-fake-u-s-wuhan-virus-statistics
>>>
>>> KABOOM! The Fake U.S. Wuhan Virus Statistics
>>> NOVEMBER 30, 2020 / JACK MARSHALL
>>>
>>>
>>> Apparently the statistics we have been hammered over the head with for
>>> months, that have been used to frighten American, close schools, and
>>> manipulate Presidential elections, are pure, unadulterated kaka, and,
>>> more amazing still, health professionals have known this all along.
>>
>> If the latter were true, it would have been very easy for Mr. Jack
>> Marshall to name multiple well-known "health professionals" saying
>> that the COVID-19 death statistics are wrong.
>
> I shared your reply on the blog post and Jack Marshall has made a
> reply comment to you. I shall share it.
>
> http://ethicsalarms.com/2020/11/30/kaboom-the-fake-u-s-wuhan-virus-statistics/#comment-728496
>
> "Welcome to “appeal to authority.”

Actually, the issue here is "name the cited authority."

> The statistics are either right
> or wrong: how many “well-known” professionals believe one way or the
> other is irrelevant. The fact that deaths not caused by the virus are
> attributed to the virus does prove the statistics are wrong."- Jack Marshall

I take this to be a confession by Mr. Marshall that his writing
"health professionals have known this (the statistics are wrong) all
along" to be in his own words "pure, unadulterated kaka."

>> Instead, multiple well-known health professionals such as Drs. Birx,
>> Fauci, Redfield, etc., are publicly saying that if anything, the
>> statistics are an underestimate of how many Americans have died from
>> COVID-19 as evident by the number of excess American deaths that have
>> occurred this year being more than the American COVID-19 death
>> statistic.
>
> "That is still open to question."- Jack Marshall

I take this to be an admission by Mr. Marshall that he remains unable
to name any well-known health professionals who are publicly stating
for the record that the American COVID-19 death statistic is wrong.

>>> KABOOM!
>>
>> I hope Mr. Jack Marshall has survived his own self-detonation.

> "Whatever that’s supposed to mean, other than that the writer is a
> jerk."- Jack Marshall

I am glad that Mr. Jack Marshall survived his own self-detonation
despite his hurting his own feelings.

>>> Here is a quote casually thrown into an October Newsweek article about
>>> Joe Biden’s attempts to argue the President Trump’s policies have killed
>>> people (the bolding is mine):
>>
>> ImPOTUS45's policy of not mandating by executive order that everyone
>> wear facemasks at indoor public gatherings of more than 5 people has
>> caused more Americans to die needlessly.
>
> "Utter nonsense, and it would also be unconstitutional as well as
> arbitrary and unsupportable."- Jack Marshall

It is very unlikely that any Supreme Court, especially the current one
with three justices appointed by ImPOTUS45, would deem such an XO by
DJT that "promote the general welfare" (Preamble to the Constitution)
to be unConstitutional.

>> Such is the lesson unlearned from the 1918 FLU pandemic as evident by
>> excess American deaths in 2020 being comparable to excess American
>> deaths in 1918.
>
> "Wrong wrong wrong. Cross-comparisons about different illnesses in
> different times are useless. Andrew exposes himself as a Wuhan
> ignoramous"- Jack Marshall

It is commonly said that "those who forget history are doomed to
repeat it."

Moreover, the city of Wuhan is not an "ignored" part of the history of
the 1918 FLU pandemic.

>> Simply look to Korea and Taiwan which both had national facemask
>> mandates and both have experienced markedly fewer COVID-19 deaths to
>> get an estimate that ImPOTUS45 (and his enablers including especially
>> those in the Senate who voted not to remove him after his impeachment)
>> should be blamed for the more than 260,000 Americans that have so far
>> died prematurely of COVID-19 in 2020.
>
> "And cross cultural comparisons as well. And as the post pointed
> out, no other country counts cases like we do."- Jack Marshall

Actually, the folks in both (South) Korea and Taiwan count COVID-19
deaths like we do.

>>> Biden’s claim doesn’t acknowledge that the U.S. counts coronavirus
>>> deaths differently from other countries. Indeed, we are counting deaths
>>> differently than we have for any other disease. “The case definition is
>>> very simplistic,” Dr. Ngozi Ezike, director of Illinois Department of
>>> Public Health, explains. “It means, at the time of death, it was a COVID
>>> positive diagnosis. That means, that if you were in hospice and had
>>> already been given a few weeks to live, and then you also were found to
>>> have COVID, that would be counted as a COVID death. It means,
>>> technically even if you died of [a] clear alternative cause, but you had
>>> COVID at the same time, it’s still listed as a COVID death.”
>>
>> As it should, because the COVID-19 coronavirus rapidly attacks all the
>> vital organs of the body so that it does kill much faster than all
>> other diseases can.
>
> "Ridiculous. The disease has a less than .01 death rate except for
> the highest risk group."- Jack Marshall

Rapidity of death from a disease does not correlate with death rate.
For example, lung cancer, which takes months to years to kill, has a
more than .50 death rate.

>> The only thing that can kill faster than COVID-19 is physical trauma,
>> as in the example of George Floyd, who was reportedly COVID-19
>> positive when he died while suffering physical trauma on his neck as
>> he was being kneed by police.
>>
>> This is why, though positive for COVID-19, George Floyd's cause of
>> death was determined to be homicide based on the video evidence of
>> physical trauma at the time of death.
>
> "Also ridiculous. The writer proves he is too confused to pay
> attention to, except to point and laugh. Physical trauma is an
> intervening cause, and has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
> Morever, it is likely that Floyd was killed by a his own drug overdose,
> not physical trauma. And the virus has nothing to do with his story."-
> Jack Marshall

The late Mr. George Floyd's (RIP/pbuh) COVID-19 diagnosis is relevant
here because it irrefutably disproves Mr. Marshall's claim that
"everyone who dies after a positive COVID-19 test ends up with
COVID-19 as their cause of death" (paraphrasing Mr. Marshall).

If it were applicable here, self-inflicted drug overdose is
essentially self-inflicted physical trauma, which also kills faster
than COVID-19.

>>> Believe it or not, it gets worse.
>>
>> And will continue to get worse.
>
> Feel free to leave comments on the blog post that I linked to.

There is no freedom in the moderated setting of a blog post compared
to what is experienced here on USENET.

>> The only healthy way to stop the pandemic is to rapidly (
>> http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) find out at any given moment,
>> including while On-Line, who among us are unwittingly contagious (i.e.
>> pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to
>> http://bit.ly/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12) for them to call their
>> doctor and self-quarantine per their doctor.
>>
>> Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 )
>> and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/eCv1IXy7w9I/m/ZZfb_9ogBQAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > MichaelE wrote:
> >
> > > http://ethicsalarms.com/2020/12/02/on-masks-i-get-the-message/
> > >
> > >
> > > DECEMBER 2, 2020 / JACK MARSHALL
> > > face-masks-chart
> > >
> > > The New York Times has been a primary offender in fearmongering and
> > > hyping the pandemic, while trying to bolster the efforts of
> > > power-abusing mayors and governors to make life miserable for the public
> > > in order to show they are “doing something.” Thus when the Times
> > > published this article, with the sub-head, “The accumulating research
> > > may be imperfect, and it’s still evolving, but the takeaway is simple.
> > > Right now, masks are necessary to slow the pandemic,” I assumed that I
> > > would read an unequivocal, full-throated, air-tight brief for mask-wearing.
>>
> > Actually, the sub-heading suggests quite the opposite of an
> > "unequivocal, full-throated, air-tight brief for mask-wearing."
> > Mr. Marshall clearly has an issue with mask-wearing so that wearing a
> > mask would indeed "make (his) life miserable."
> >
> > ImPOTUS45 has publicly demonstrated that he too is also mask-averse.
> >
> > As is commonly said, "birds of a feather, flock together." And, so we
> > do see mask-averse folks flock together at ImPOTUS45's rallies, which
> > have become and still are super-spreader events that serve as
> > accumulating evidence to ultimately build "an unequivocal,
> > full-throated, air-tight brief for mask-wearing" within the annals of
> > American history.
>
> From the Times article Jack Marshall had linked to.
>
> The agency was reluctant to recommend masks at first because it
> worried about a run on the high-quality masks needed for health care
> workers, Dr. Marr said.

Indeed, Dr. Fauci has testified under oath before Congress that he was
reluctant to initially recommend masks for the general public because
he was concerned about causing "a run on the high-quality masks needed
for health care workers."

> > It is written that "above all else, guard the heart; for from it comes
> > all the issues of life."(Proverbs 4:23) These issues "make life
> > miserable" so that folks falsely feel that they've lost their freedom.
> >
> > It is further written that "the heart is deceitfully wicked, beyond
> > cure."(Jeremiah 17:9)
> >
> > It is when we're wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 )
> > in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) us to hunger, that we
> > overcome all the issues in our heart, starting with the issue with
> > hunger, by which we are deceived to become enslaved by sin as in the
> > tragic example of MX:
> >
> > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.bible.prophecy/c/Wq8HsrOyJuE/m/JV9MczEHAgAJ
> >
> > ... and the more recent tragic example of zeb**:
> >
> > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.bible.prophecy/c/7GiPwBwBbqw/m/mvPDcSY5AQAJ
> >
> > "Now the LORD is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the LORD is,
> > there is freedom." (2 Corinthians 3:17)
> >
> > "HE humbled you, causing you to hunger, and then feeding you with
> > manna ..." (Deuteronomy 8:3)
> >
> > And so, I am simply wonderfully hungry (
> > http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and hope you, Michael, also have a
> > healthy appetite too.
> >
> > So how are you ?
> >
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/-d4jvKJq4g8/m/GVg2Ma8cAwAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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@Donnie Baker wrote:

> What you're saying is the
> "non ?????? rubes"
> are entering a new round of
> "belly laughs" !....????....
>
> Thanks for the humor !....??????...

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Donnie Baker , I am simply wonderfully hungry and hope you, Roy, and others
> reading my comment at the top, also have a healthy appetite too. So how are you ?

@Donnie Baker wrote:

> @HeartDoc Andrew
> Waiting for the next
> covid "punchline"....????...
>
> Come on, give us the real
> "fearporn" stuff....????...

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Donnie Baker , taking your continued interest here to mean
> "yes, you have a healthy appetite," I, as a cardiologist, share
> with you, Donnie, that it's wonderful knowing through our hunger
> that we're both not having a heart attack (aka myocardial infarction)
> at the moment in accordance with pure logic {{healthy=wonderful &
> appetite=hunger}} and advise that you try to write that you're
> "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that you are:
> So now how are you ?

@Donnie Baker wrote:

> @HeartDoc Andrew
>
> ....cricket..................................cricket...
> .................cricket.....................................
> ......................................cricket................
> cricket............crick..................................
>
>
> You're losing the crowd....????.....

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Donnie Baker, again, I advise that you, Donnie,
> really try to write that you're "wonderfully hungry"
> since we've established here that you are: So now
> again, how are you ?

@Donnie Baker wrote:

> @HeartDoc Andrew Too late....????...
>
> We've all left your pathetic act,
> and retired to the strip joints,
> where we are currently enjoying
> "maskless 69 lap dances" at
> "two for the price of one"...??????...
>
>
>
>
>
> BTW, we know why
> you stopped your act....????...

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Donnie Baker, your not being able to write that you're "wonderfully hungry"
> when greeted here means, Donnie, you're
> #StatCOVID19Test *positive* indicating that it's possible you're unwittingly
> contagious (i.e. pre-symptomatic) needing to call your doctor & to self-quarantine
> per CDC guidelines.

Source:
https://bit.ly/Positive120520

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 6, 2020, 3:48:10 PM12/6/20
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MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > MichaelE wrote:
> >
> > > http://ethicsalarms.com/2020/12/06/these-are-the-experts-your-present-and-future-masters-rely-upon/
> >
> > >
> > > These Are The “Experts” Your Present And Future Masters Rely Upon
> > > DECEMBER 6, 2020 / JACK MARSHALL
> > > monster-replica
> > >
> > > If I weren’t so sick of this topic, it would deserve longer post…a rant
> > > even.
> > >
> > > Reason reports that many epidemiologists believe we should all wear
> > > masks and socially distance forever:
> > >
> > > “I expect that wearing a mask will become part of my daily life, moving
> > > forward, even after a vaccine is deployed,” Amy Hobbs, a research
> > > associate at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
> > > says.Marilyn Tseng, an assistant professor at California Polytechnic
> > > State University, said life would never revert to the way it was, though
> > > the preventative measures currently practiced—masks and social
> > > distancing—will feel “normal” in time. Similarly, Vasily Vlassov, a
> > > professor at HSE University in Moscow, said life was perfectly normal
> > > now because this is the new normal….”
> > >
> > > Of course they say that. Are you surprised?
>
> > No. For many, mask-wearing is no longer an issue (Proverbs 4:23) in
> > their heart (Matthew 15:19).
>
> It is an issue.

... for Mr. Jack Marshall **and** ImPOTUS45.

> >
> > Sadly, the same cannot be written about Mr. Jack Marshall, who is "so
> > sick of this topic" because it remains an issue for him.
>
> His freedom is being compromised.

Wearing a facemask in public is as enslaving as wearing a seatbelt
while driving in public.

> Here is my comment.
>
>
> http://ethicsalarms.com/2020/12/06/these-are-the-experts-your-present-and-future-masters-rely-upon/comment-page-1/#comment-729077
>
> From my observations both at my work , as well as the restaurants I
> visit there, people wear masks when walking about. If there were
> violations, they are so rare I have not observed them.
>
> And yet cases are still rising, despite this virtually universal
> usage of masks in public.
>
> I wonder why.

People can't wear their masks while either eating or drinking in
public places.

And then, more importantly, there is what is written at Psalm 127:1

"Unless the LORD watches over the city, the watchmen stand guard in
vain." (Psalm 127:1)

Masks are worn in vain if our LORD isn't protecting/blessing us right
now (Luke 6:21a).

> > In the interim, I am simply wonderfully hungry (
> > http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and hope you, Michael, also have a
> > healthy appetite too.
> >
> > So how are you ?
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/GW6hqBOy7Fo/m/_JB8_wHwAwAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MichaelE wrote:
>>
>>> http://manilastandard.net/mobile/article/341687
>>>
>>> posted December 10, 2020 at 01:50 am
>>> by
>>> AFP and Allison Jackson
>>> Daniel Auminto lost his job and then his home when the coronavirus
>>> pandemic sent the Philippines into lockdown. Now he and his family live
>>> on the street, relying on food handouts to survive.
>>
>> The latter situation is terrible and underscores how lockdowns are not
>> the solution for stopping the coronavirus pandemic.
>
> You got that right!

I am simply wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) while
bring reminded that it's commonly said that hindsight is 20/20.

>> The only healthy way to stop the pandemic is by rapidly (
>> http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) finding out at any given moment,
>> including even while on-line, who among us are unwittingly contagious
>> (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to
>> http://bit.ly/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12) for them to call their
>> doctor and self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this
>> pandemic even in the worst-case scenario of the cluster-5 mink
>> mutations rendering pending vaccines ineffective.
>>
>> Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 )
>> and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/hRF2ip8ORmo/m/mZxKeXNQAgAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MichaelE wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-germany-idUSKBN28M0A0
>>>
>>> Germany to close shops from mid-week in tighter lockdown: sources
>>> By Andreas Rinke
>>>
>>> 3 MIN READ
>>>
>>>
>>> BERLIN (Reuters) - Germany will close shops from the middle of next week
>>> in a tightening of coronavirus lockdown restrictions, people familiar
>>> with the matter said on Saturday.
>>>
>>>
>>> Slideshow ( 5 images )
>>> The decision came ahead of a meeting planned for Sunday morning between
>>> Chancellor Angela Merkel and state leaders as Europe’s largest economy
>>> grapples with a rise in infections.
>>>
>>> Germany has been in partial lockdown for six weeks, with bars and
>>> restaurants closed, while stores and schools have remained open. Some
>>> regions have already imposed tougher measures as infections grew.
>>>
>>> Markus Soeder, the premier of Bavaria, told Germany’s Bild newspaper
>>> that the new measures would be wide-ranging, including schools,
>>> kindergartens, contacts and shops.
>>>
>>> “We definitely have to take the necessary measures before mid-week,” he
>>> said.
>>>
>>> Germany was more successful than many European countries in keeping the
>>> pandemic under control in the first wave in March and April. But it has
>>> been struggling to turn the tide in the second wave with what has been
>>> dubbed a “lockdown lite”.
>>>
>>> Daily new infections have climbed to 28,438, while the daily death toll
>>> was 496, data from the Robert Koch Institute (RKI) for infectious
>>> diseases showed on Saturday.
>>>
>>> “We must take steps in the coming days that are very far-reaching and
>>> very hard-hitting,” German Finance Minister Olaf Scholz told members of
>>> his Social Democratic party at an online event.
>>>
>>> Opponents of lockdown measures have regularly protested in German cities
>>> over curbs. On Saturday, police in Frankfurt and Dresden were dressed in
>>> riot gear and armed with water cannon to enforce a ban on such
>>> demonstrations.
>>>
>>> Economy Minister Peter Altmaier told the RND newspaper group on Saturday
>>> that hospital intensive care units were beginning to be stretched to
>>> their limits and that Germany could not wait until after Christmas to react.
>>>
>>> Merkel has favoured stricter pan-German measures but was unable to get
>>> agreement from the nation’s 16 states.
>>>
>>> But some states have since clamped down on their own.
>>>
>>> Starting Saturday, a night curfew will be in force in the southwestern
>>> state of Baden-Wuerttemberg, except for people going out to work and for
>>> essential reasons.
>>
>> The only healthy way to stop this pandemic sooner rather than later,
>> especially in the worst-case scenario of the "cluster-5 mink
>> mutations" (Google it) rendering current vaccines ineffective, is for
>> us to redouble our efforts, including even while on-line, to rapidly (
>> http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) find out who among us are
>> unwittingly contagious (i.e. pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in
>> order to http://bit.ly/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12) for them to call
>> their doctor and self-quarantine per their doctor.
>>
>> Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 )
>> and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/SiU2C9S1jAk/m/9uTxX5MyAwAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MichaelE wrote:
>>
>>> http://townhall.com/columnists/walterewilliams/2020/12/09/costs-must-be-weighed-against-benefits-n2581198
>>>
>>> Walter E. Williams
>>>
>>> Posted: Dec 09, 2020 12:01 AM
>>> The opinions expressed by columnists are their own and do not
>>> necessarily represent the views of Townhall.com.
>>> Costs Must Be Weighed Against Benefits
>>>
>>> Source: AP Photo/Jeff Roberson
>>>
>>> Editor's Note: Walter Williams passed away last Wednesday. You can read
>>> our tribute to him here.
>>
>> Hopefully not from COVID-19
>
> He did not.
>
>>> One of the first lessons in an economics class is every action has a
>>> cost. That is in stark contrast to lessons in the political arena where
>>> politicians virtually ignore cost and talk about benefits and free
>>> stuff. If we look only at the benefits of an action, policy, or program,
>>> then we will do anything because there is a benefit to any action,
>>> policy, or program.
>>>
>>> Think about one simple example. The National Highway Traffic Safety
>>> Administration estimates that 36,096 Americans lost their lives in motor
>>> vehicle traffic crashes in 2019. Virtually all those lives could have
>>> been saved if we had a 5 mph speed limit. The huge benefit of a 5 mph
>>> speed limit is that those 36,000-plus Americans would have been with us
>>> instead of lost in highway carnage. Fortunately, we look at the costs of
>>> having a 5 mph speed limit and rightly conclude that saving those
>>> 36,000-plus lives are not worth the costs and inconvenience. Most of us
>>> find it too callous, when talking about life, to explicitly weigh costs
>>> against benefits. We simply say that a 5 mph speed limit would be
>>> impractical.
>>
>> Actually, it is unlikely that the DUIs, which account for many traffic
>> deaths, would comply with a 5 mph speed limit since they aren't
>> complying with current speed limits.
>>
>>> What about the benefits and costs of dealing with the COVID-19 pandemic?
>>> Much of the medical profession and politicians say that lockdowns,
>>> social distancing, and mask-wearing are the solutions. CDC data on death
>>> rates show if one is under 35, the chances of dying from COVID-19 is
>>> much lower than that of being in a bicycle accident.
>>
>> The problem here is that younger people spread COVID-19 to older folks
>> who are more likely to die from it.
>
> Older peopler can, if they choose to do so, stay home.

Thankfully, http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 is an infinitely better
option for everyone including especially older people.

> The issue with lockdowns is that they, of course, impose severe
> burdens on the general population, preventing them from having normal
> activities. For lockdowns to work, there must be cooperation, and for
> there to be cooperation, there must be trust in public health authorities.

Lockdowns are not going to work in countries where the right to
peacefully assemble is lawfully protected.

>> Otoh, a person on a bicycle though more likely to die when colliding
>> with a car is less likely to kill those in the car.
>>
>>> Should we lock down bicycles?
>>
>> If the motivation is to prevent bicycle deaths, it makes more sense to
>> separate bicycle traffic from car traffic.
>>
>>> Dr. Martin Kulldorff, professor of medicine at Harvard
>>> University, biostatistician, and epidemiologist, Dr. Sunetra Gupta,
>>> professor at Oxford University and an epidemiologist with expertise in
>>> immunology, and Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, professor at Stanford University
>>> Medical School, a physician and epidemiologist were the initiators of
>>> the Great Barrington Declaration. More than 50,000 scientists and
>>> doctors, as well as more than 682,000 ordinary people, have signed the
>>> Great Barrington Declaration opposing a second COVID-19 lockdown because
>>> they see it doing much more harm than good.
>>
>> The only healthy way to stop this pandemic sooner rather than later,
>> especially in the worst-case scenario of the "cluster-5 mink
>> mutations" (Google it) rendering current vaccines ineffective, is for
>> us to redouble our efforts, including even while on-line, to rapidly (
>> http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) find out who among us are
>> unwittingly contagious (i.e. pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order
>> to http://bit.ly/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12) for them to call their
>> doctor and self-quarantine per their doctor.
>>
>> Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 )
>> and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
>>
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/2JV2qe_mfF4/m/PsT2KQRcAwAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 16, 2020, 10:43:16 AM12/16/20
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MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MichaelE wrote:
>>
>>> http://nltimes.nl/2020/12/14/netherlands-hard-lockdown-almost-everything-closed-til-january-19-report
>>>
>>>
>>> Netherlands in for a hard lockdown; Almost everything closed til January
>>> 19: report
>>>
>>> In his address to the nation on Monday evening, Prime Minister Mark
>>> Rutte will announce a far-reaching lockdown, in which almost everything
>>> will be closed until January 19, sources in The Hague told NOS. The
>>> measures will take effect at midnight, to prevent a run on shops on Tuesday.
>>>
>>> The closure affects all non-essential stores like clothing stores and
>>> garden centers, contact professions like massage parlors and
>>> physiotherapists, and schools. Schools must close their doors from
>>> Wednesday and switch to online education, according to the broadcaster's
>>> sources.
>>>
>>> The government is taking these drastic measures in an attempt to reduce
>>> the still sky-high number of daily coronavirus infections. On Sunday,
>>> Jaap van Dissel of public health institute RIVM told the government that
>>> the current pressure on intensive care units is alarming.
>>>
>>> Last week Rutte said that the Christmas days will be "spared" from
>>> tighter coronavirus restrictions. Whether this is still the case with
>>> the RIVM reporting nearly 10 thousand new infections on Sunday, remains
>>> to be seen.
>>>
>>> According to NOS' sources, Rutte will urge Netherlands residents to stay
>>> at home as much as possible and to not receive any guests. The setting
>>> of a curfew was discussed, but decided against.
>>>
>>> The leaders of the parliamentary parties were invited to the Ministry
>>> of General Affairs, Prime Minister Mark Rutte's Ministry, at noon on
>>> Monday, so that they can be informed of the measures the government was
>>> planning.
>>>
>>> "This also shows how extraordinary the situation is," political reporter
>>> Xander van der Wulp said to the broadcaster.
>>
>> The only healthy way to stop the pandemic is by rapidly (
>> http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) finding out at any given moment,
>> including even while on-line, who among us are unwittingly contagious
>> (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to
>> http://bit.ly/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12) for them to call their
>> doctor and self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this
>> pandemic even in the worst-case scenario of the "cluster-5 mink
>> mutations" (read more via Google) rendering current vaccines
>> ineffective.
>>
>> Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 )
>> and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/RL_9fCJMauw/m/fZRywKz5AwAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 18, 2020, 1:13:59 PM12/18/20
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MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MichaelE wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.thelocal.dk/20201216/new-denmark-announces-national-lockdown-from-christmas-day
>>>
>>> NEW: Denmark announces national lockdown from Christmas Day
>>>
>>> Photo: Mads Claus Rasmussen/Ritzau Scanpix
>>> The Local
>>> ne...@thelocal.dk
>>> @thelocaldenmark
>>> 16 December 202018:20 CET+01:00
>>> Danish prime minister Mette Frederiksen has announced that the country
>>> will be “practically closed down” from December 25th, with some measures
>>> to take effect as early as Thursday.
>>>
>>> All shopping centres and shopping arcades will close from Thursday
>>> December 17th, while businesses such as hairdressers, physiotherapists
>>> and driving schools will close from Monday December 21st.
>>>
>>> All retail businesses, with the exception of supermarkets, pharmacies
>>> and other stores which sell daily essentials, will be closed from
>>> December 25th until January 3rd.
>>>
>>> In announcing the restrictions, Frederiksen said that Denmark would be
>>> “practically closed down” from December 25th until January 3rd. Further
>>> compensation packages will be negotiated for businesses, Frederiksen said.
>>>
>>> “We are doing this because an epidemic that runs out of control would
>>> have great consequences and bigger consequences than closing down now
>>> will have,” she said.
>>>
>>> All school children will be sent home from December 21st, the prime
>>> minister also confirmed. Under the current partial lockdown, schools are
>>> still open for children up to fourth grade.
>>>
>>> “We have reached risk level four in the entire country, the
>>> second-highest level. That means authorities believe there is widespread
>>> outbreak in society,” Frederiksen said.
>>>
>>> Denmark uses a scale level of 1-5 to appraise the seriousness of the
>>> current Covid-19 situation in each of its five administrative healthcare
>>> regions. Each of those five reasons is now at level four.
>>>
>>> The highest level, level five, reflects uncontrolled infection spread
>>> and a risk that hospital capacity will be exceeded.
>>>
>>> Health minister Magnus Heunicke said at the briefing that 1,808 health
>>> sector personnel had contracted the coronavirus during the last week.
>>> That is an increase of 70 percent, according to Heunicke.
>>>
>>> “The infection is now everywhere in society and it is at our hospitals.
>>> But it is important to say that the health service is still open,” the
>>> minister said.
>>>
>>> The Danish Health Authority has no plans at the current time to
>>> recommend travel restrictions within Denmark, the authority’s director
>>> Søren Brostrøm said.
>>>
>>> “That is not because we are not worried, but because we have very clear
>>> and precise recommendations with regard to social contact,” Brostrøm said.
>>>
>>> Those recommendations are to see a maximum of 10 people socially at any
>>> one time, and not to have any form of social contact with more than 10
>>> people.
>>>
>>> Frederiksen called the current coronavirus situation situation "very
>>> serious", adding that just under half of Denmark's Covid-19 hospital
>>> beds are now in use.
>>>
>>> 3,692 positive tests for Covid-19 were registered by the State Serum
>>> Institute on Wednesday, the highest number recorded during the pandemic.
>>> The number of hospitalisations increased significantly by 54, taking the
>>> total number to 493.
>>>
>>> During the spring wave of the virus, the number of Covid-19 inpatients
>>> peaked at 535 on April 1st.
>>>
>>> 14 deaths with Covid-19 were also registered on Wednesday, the highest
>>> daily figure since May.
>>
>> The only healthy way to stop the pandemic, especially in Denmark is by
>> rapidly ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) finding out at any given
>> moment, including even while on-line, who among us are unwittingly
>> contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to
>> http://bit.ly/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12) for them to call their
>> doctor and self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this
>> pandemic even in the worst-case scenario of the "cluster-5 mink
>> mutations" (read more via Google) rendering current vaccines
>> ineffective.
>>
>> Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 )
>> and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 19, 2020, 6:02:15 PM12/19/20
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MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MichaelE wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55372491
>>>
>>>
>>> Covid: Italy latest European country to order Christmas lockdown
>>> Published13 hours ago
>>> Share
>>> Related Topics
>>> Coronavirus pandemic
>>> A woman wearing a face mask walks past a mural in Rome's Trastevere district
>>> IMAGE COPYRIGHTGETTY IMAGES
>>> image captionItaly has recorded the highest Covid death toll in Europe
>>> Italy has ordered a nationwide lockdown over much of the Christmas and
>>> New Year period in an effort to combat a rise in coronavirus cases.
>>>
>>> The country will be under "red-zone" restrictions over the public
>>> holidays, with non-essential shops, restaurants and bars closed, and
>>> Italians only allowed to travel for work, health and emergency reasons.
>>>
>>> Limited home visits will be allowed.
>>>
>>> Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte said it was "not an easy decision".
>>>
>>> "Our experts were seriously worried that there would be a jump in cases
>>> over Christmas... We therefore had to act," he said in a news conference.
>>>
>>> Italy has recorded the highest Covid death toll in Europe, with close to
>>> 68,000 fatalities.
>>>
>>> What is Europe doing about Covid and Christmas?
>>> Tracking the global pandemic: Where has been hit hardest?
>>> Did Macron break his own Covid rules?
>>> Mr Conte said the launch of the vaccination drive later this month would
>>> mark the beginning of "the end of this nightmare."
>>>
>>> The announcement of the Christmas restrictions on Friday followed days
>>> of wrangling in the governing coalition between those wanting a complete
>>> lockdown and others seeking limited action to help struggling businesses
>>> and allow families to meet.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile in France, President Emmanuel Macron remains in self-isolation
>>> in the official presidential residence at La Lanterne at Versailles
>>> after testing positive for Covid-19. Mr Macron said he was suffering
>>> from fatigue, headaches and a dry cough.
>>>
>>> What are the rules?
>>> The "red-zone" restrictions will be in place across Italy on 24 to 27
>>> December, 31 December to 3 January, and 5 to 6 January.
>>>
>>> During this period people "can leave the house only for reasons of work,
>>> necessity and health," Mr Conte said.
>>>
>>> But, he added, the rules will allow people to receive a maximum of two
>>> guests, not including people under the age of 14, in their homes. A
>>> curfew from 22:00 to 05:00 will remain in place.
>>>
>>> Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte speaks during the press conference
>>> to announce the anti-covid rules that will regulate Christmas holidays,
>>> in Rome, Italy, 18 December 2020.
>>> IMAGE COPYRIGHTEPA
>>> image captionPrime Minister Giuseppe Conte said it was "not an easy
>>> decision"
>>> Slightly looser curbs will be in place from 28 to 30 December and on 4
>>> January. On these days, people will be free to leave their houses but
>>> bars and restaurants will remain closed.
>>>
>>> Mr Conte said the rules were designed to "allow the minimum
>>> socialisation that is suitable for this period".
>>>
>>> He said police would not be sent into people's homes to check the rules
>>> were being observed, but urged Italians to act responsibly.
>>>
>>> What is happening elsewhere in Europe?
>>> A number of European countries have been tightening restrictions ahead
>>> of Christmas following a surge of infections.
>>>
>>> The Netherlands and Germany have imposed lockdowns until January. In
>>> Germany, Christmas will see a slight easing, with one household allowed
>>> to host up to four close family members.
>>>
>>> In Austria, the government said on Friday the country would enter its
>>> third lockdown after Christmas. From 26 December, non-essential shops
>>> will be shut and movement outside homes restricted.
>>>
>>> Sweden has recommended wearing face masks on public transport during the
>>> rush hour, reversing its earlier guidance. It will also cut from the
>>> current eight to four per table the number of people sitting together in
>>> restaurants, and ban alcohol sales after 20:00.
>>>
>>>
>>> media captionProf Joshua Weitz explains how Covid risks are calculated
>>> Slovakia's Prime Minister Igor Matovic, who attended an EU summit with
>>> Mr Macron last week, said he had tested positive for coronavirus on Friday.
>>>
>>> Several other European leaders who were also at the summit, including
>>> the prime ministers of Belgium, Spain, Portugal and Luxembourg, said
>>> they would self-isolate.
>>>
>>> In the UK, Prime Minister Boris Johnson said he was "hoping to avoid"
>>> another national lockdown in England but that Covid-19 cases had
>>> increased "very much" in recent weeks.
>>
>> The only healthy way to stop the pandemic, in Italy and the rest of
>> the EU is by rapidly ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) finding out
>> at any given moment, including even while on-line, who among us are
>> unwittingly contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order
>> to http://bit.ly/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12) for them to call their
>> doctor and self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this
>> pandemic even in the worst-case scenario of the "cluster-5 mink
>> mutations" (read more via Google) rendering current vaccines
>> ineffective.
>>
>> Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 )
>> and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/yBy9pVyItRA/m/7lj6q_4qAQAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 22, 2020, 5:07:01 PM12/22/20
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@Sri Vishnu wrote:

> I am very sorry that you are oppressed, powerless, marginalized, disenfranchised,
> persecuted, invalidated, subjugated, discriminated against and disadvantaged
> by the system, structure and institution of racism as originated and perpetuated
> by White supremacy, superiority and privilege, which prevents you from living a ...

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Sri Vishnu , I am simply wonderfully hungry and hope you, Sri, and others
> reading my comment at the top, also have a healthy appetite too. So how are you ?

@Sri Vishnu wrote:

> @HeartDoc Andrew I don't conceptualize/perceive myself as being victimized,
> persecuted, suffering, oppressed, marginalized, disparaged, invalidated,
> demonized, discriminated against, stigmatized, differentiated, violated or
> persecuted by any human being, system, structure or institution ...


HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Sri Vishnu , taking your interest in replying here to mean
> "yes, you have a healthy appetite," I, as a cardiologist, share
> with you, Sri, that it's wonderful knowing through our hunger
> that we're both not having a heart attack (aka myocardial infarction)
> at the moment in accordance with pure logic {{healthy=wonderful &
> appetite=hunger}} and advise that you try to write that you're
> "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that you are:
> So now how are you ?

@Sri Vishnu wrote:

(nothing for > 12 hours)


HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Sri Vishnu, your not being able to write that you're "wonderfully hungry"
> over the past 12 hours since being greeted here means, Sri, you're
> #StatCOVID19Test *positive* indicating that it's possible you're unwittingly
> contagious (i.e. pre-symptomatic) needing to call your doctor & to self-quarantine
> per CDC guidelines.

Source:
https://bit.ly/Positive122220

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 24, 2020, 10:08:11 AM12/24/20
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MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MichaelE wrote:
>>
>>> http://theliberal.ie/hes-had-enough-and-the-government-are-listening-heres-a-list-of-all-the-new-restrictions/
>>>
>>>
>>> He’s had enough and the government are listening! Here’s a list of all
>>> the new restrictions
>>> December 22, 2020 14:04 James Brennan Irish News
>>>
>>> The Chief Medical Officer Dr Tony Holohan has told the government that
>>> he wants a full and immediately Level 5 lockdown from St Stephen’s Day.
>>>
>>> Holohan is said to have had enough with the latest numbers and is
>>> demanding Ireland gets locked down once again.
>>>
>>> It’s understood that last night, the Chief Medical Officer told the
>>> government that he wants a full level 5 lockdown once again immediately
>>> from St Stephen’s Day.
>>>
>>> So this is what’s going to happen from St Stephen’s Day:
>>>
>>> Restaurants and gastro-pubs are going to close at 3pm on Christmas Eve.
>>>
>>> Hairdressers are to close on Christmas Eve again.
>>>
>>> Non-essential retail will remain open but shops will be asked to
>>> postpone January sales to try and stop people going out to them.
>>>
>>> No new inter-county travel will be allowed after St Stephen’s Day for
>>> the foreseeable future.
>>>
>>> Up until St Stephen’s Day, visits from up to two other households will
>>> be permitted only. Household visits will be reduced to one other
>>> household from 27 December onwards.
>>>
>>> From 1 January, absolutely no household mixing will be allowed except
>>> for compassionate reasons.
>>>
>>> Hotels can provide food and bar services to guests only after 3pm on
>>> Christmas Eve, no one else. Hotels may only open to guests for essential
>>> purposes after December 26th.
>>>
>>> Religious services will move online from December 26th again.
>>>
>>> The number of wedding guests remains at 25 until New Year’s Day, then
>>> guests will be reduced to just 6 people from January 2nd.
>>>
>>> Schools will return as normal in January after the Christmas break at
>>> this time.
>>>
>>> Gyms, leisure centres and swimming pools will remain open for individual
>>> training only at this time.
>>>
>>> Non-contact training in pods of up to 15 may take place outdoors.
>>>
>>> No matches/events should take place except for professional and elite
>>> sports and horse-racing and greyhound racing behind closed doors only.
>>>
>>> The lockdown will be reviewed once again in January.
>>>
>>> What’s your thoughts on the new lockdown?
>>
>> The only healthy way to stop the pandemic in Ireland and the rest of
>> the EU is by rapidly ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) finding out
>> at any given moment, including even while on-line, who among us are
>> unwittingly contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order
>> to http://bit.ly/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12) for them to call their
>> doctor and self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this
>> pandemic even in the worst-case scenario of the "UK variant mutations"
>> **and** others like the "cluster-5 mink mutations" (read more via
>> Google) rendering current vaccines ineffective.
>>
>> Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 )
>> and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
>>
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

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https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/D-oVw6Wc7xw/m/zqQWIAuaAgAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 24, 2020, 12:56:30 PM12/24/20
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@Denise Skinner wrote:

> It takes 1 second to Google chimpanzee adenovirus & learn the truth. It is better
> to be silent and be thought dumb, than to speak and remove all doubt.

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Denise Skinner , taking your attempt to quote Abraham Lincoln to mean
> "yes, you have a healthy appetite," I, as a cardiologist, share
> with you, Denise, that it's wonderful knowing through our hunger
> that we're both not having a heart attack (aka myocardial infarction)
> at the moment in accordance with pure logic {{healthy=wonderful &
> appetite=hunger}} and advise that you try to write that you're
> "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that you are:
> So now how are you ?

@Denise Skinner wrote:

(nothing for 59 minutes)


HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Denise Skinner, your not being able to write that you're "wonderfully hungry"
> over the past 59 minutes since being greeted here means, Denise, you're
> #StatCOVID19Test *positive* indicating that it's possible you're unwittingly
> contagious (i.e. pre-symptomatic) needing to call your doctor & to self-quarantine
> per CDC guidelines.

Source:
https://bit.ly/Positive122420

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 25, 2020, 4:06:12 PM12/25/20
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@Will Banks wrote:

> Covid numbers are fake news. Vaccine is a sham.

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Will Banks , I am simply wonderfully hungry and hope you, Will,
> and others reading my comment at the top, also have a healthy
> appetite too. So how are you ?

@Will Banks wrote:

> @HeartDoc Andrew Great thanks.

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Will Banks , taking your "great" to mean "yes, you have
> a healthy appetite," I, as a cardiologist, share with you,
> Will, that it's wonderful knowing through our hunger that
> we're both not having a heart attack (aka myocardial infarction)
> at the moment in accordance with pure logic {{healthy=wonderful &
> appetite=hunger}} and advise that you try to write that you're
> "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that you are:
> So now how are you ?

@Will Banks wrote:

> @HeartDoc Andrew Sure brother.

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Will Banks, again, I advise that you, Will, really try to write that
> you're "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that
> you are: So now again, how are you ?

@Will Banks wrote:

> @HeartDoc Andrew Wtf is your deal what are you trying to do

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Will Banks, your not being able to write that you're "wonderfully hungry"
> when greeted here means, Will, you're #StatCOVID19Test *positive*
> indicating that it's possible you're unwittingly contagious
> (i.e. pre-symptomatic) needing to call your doctor & to self-quarantine
> per CDC guidelines.

Source:
https://bit.ly/Positive122520

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 27, 2020, 2:34:12 PM12/27/20
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MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MichaelE wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/27/scientists-call-for-nationwide-lockdown-after-rapid-spread-of-covid-19-variant
>>>
>>>
>>> Scientists call for UK lockdown after rapid spread of Covid-19 variant
>>> Stricter measures needed as cases of mutated virus, linked to UK
>>> travellers, are reported across globe
>>>
>>> Coronavirus – latest updates
>>> See all our coronavirus coverage
>>> Covid-19 cell
>>> A daily rate of 32,725 cases of Covid-19 were was reported at the end of
>>> last week, a 46.6% increase on the previous week. Photograph:
>>> Natchavakorn Songpracone/Alamy
>>> Robin McKie, Toby Helm and Jamie Doward
>>> Sun 27 Dec 2020 02.30 EST
>>>
>>> 4,112
>>> Cases of the new variant Covid-19 virus were confirmed in several
>>> European countries on Saturday, including Spain, Sweden and Switzerland.
>>> All were linked to people who had arrived from the UK.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, Japan has announced it is banning all new entries of foreign
>>> nationals from Monday following the discovery of the variant in
>>> travellers from the UK.
>>>
>>> The news came at the same time as a further six million people in east
>>> and south-east England had tier 4 conditions, England’s strictest Covid
>>> level, imposed on them on Boxing Day. Lockdowns were also introduced in
>>> Scotland and Northern Ireland. Around 24 million people in England, more
>>> than 40% of the population, are now living in tier 4, as pressure mounts
>>> for the whole country to be put in this category.
>>>
>>> Scientists from the Independent Sage group have urged that all regions
>>> of England be placed in tier 4, meaning that non-essential shops,
>>> hairdressers, and leisure and entertainment venues must close. Devolved
>>> nations were advised to bring forward their own national lockdowns. Tier
>>> 4 should include enhanced travel restrictions, the group said, while
>>> arguing that an emergency plan be introduced to enable safe education in
>>> January and February.
>>>
>>> This idea is supported by teaching unions, who have demanded that the
>>> government keeps schools closed as evidence has grown that the new virus
>>> variant is proving to be particularly infectious among children.
>>>
>>> This point was backed by Paul Hunter, professor in medicine at the
>>> University of East Anglia. “If this new variant is behind the increase
>>> in this age group, then that is a big worry,” he said.
>>
>> The only healthy way to stop the pandemic in the UK and the rest of
>> the EU is by rapidly ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) finding out
>> at any given moment, including even while on-line, who among us are
>> unwittingly contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order
>> to http://bit.ly/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12) for them to call their
>> doctor and self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this
>> pandemic even in the worst-case scenario of the "UK variant mutations"
>> **and** others like the "cluster-5 mink mutations" (read more via
>> Google) rendering current vaccines ineffective.
>
> How would we find out, at any given moment, if we are contagious?

It's when we're saying/writing that we're "wonderfully hungry" (
http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) when either greeting or being greeted
that we can (Philippians 4:13) be 100% certain that we are not
contagious at that given moment.

>> Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 )
>> and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/3p8baCuIr_E/m/LFMGKkqUAwAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 28, 2020, 3:43:26 PM12/28/20
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@Donald Trump wrote:

> ... you inbreeding cultists burned down your own cities!!!! ...

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Donald Trump , I am simply wonderfully hungry and hope you, Donald,
> and others reading my comment at the top, also have a healthy
> appetite too. So how are you ?

@Donald Trump wrote:

> @HeartDoc Andrew ... you Chinese?

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Donald Trump , taking your interest to mean "yes, you have
> a healthy appetite," I, as a cardiologist, share with you,
> Donald, that it's wonderful knowing through our hunger that
> we're both not having a heart attack (aka myocardial infarction)
> at the moment in accordance with pure logic {{healthy=wonderful &
> appetite=hunger}} and advise that you try to write that you're
> "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that you are:
> So now how are you ?

@Donald Trump wrote:

(nothing for 7 hours)

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Donald Trump, your not being able to write that you're "wonderfully hungry"
> when greeted here means, Donald, you're #StatCOVID19Test *positive*
> indicating that it's possible you're unwittingly contagious
> (i.e. pre-symptomatic) needing to call your doctor & to self-quarantine
> per CDC guidelines.

Source:
https://bit.ly/Positive122820

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 28, 2020, 10:25:09 PM12/28/20
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MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MichaelE wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.jpost.com/israel-news/controversy-over-schools-opening-as-third-lockdown-begins-653426
>>>
>>>
>>> Third COVID-19 lockdown begins as controversy surrounds schools opening
>>> Edelstein: reopening all grades ‘will surely extend the closure’ •
>>> Teachers’ Union head: ‘we will not hesitate’ to sanction and strike
>>>
>>> By HANNAH BROWN DECEMBER 27, 2020 23:55...
>>> ...
>>>
>>> As Israel entered its third lockdown at 5 p.m. on the issue of education
>>> was front and center, as the government hammered out details of how
>>> schools would operate during the closure.
>>> The Knesset Education Committee, led by MK Ram Shefa, approved a change
>>> to the proposed lockdown regulations on Sunday morning that would allow
>>> students in grades 5-10 to continue learning at school.
>>> ...
>>> Last Thursday, the proposal called for those students to stay home while
>>> preschools and grades 1-4 and 11-12 would study from 8 a.m. until 1 p.m.
>>> In response to an outcry from parents, municipal authorities and medical
>>> experts, the 1 p.m. deadline was changed later that day and it was
>>> decided that students would study a full day.
>>> The other main lockdown regulations that went into effect include the
>>> closure of retail businesses (except for groceries and pharmacies),
>>> except for deliveries.
>>> Businesses that do not receive customers will be allowed to remain open
>>> at 50% capacity or up to 10 employees. Gatherings will be limited to a
>>> maximum of 20 people outdoors or 10 people indoors. Individual sports
>>> activities will be allowed with no distance restrictions.
>>> The additional education revision approved Sunday will allow grades 5-10
>>> to operate a full day on their in-person learning days and to study on
>>> Zoom the rest of the time. The high schoolers will study in capsules and
>>> be allowed to interact with up to three other capsules; teachers will be
>>> able to instruct up to four capsules.
>>> The government has 48 hours from Sunday morning to submit a revised
>>> proposal for committee approval; until then, students will continue to
>>> study as usual.
>>> ...
>>> Parents’ groups welcomed the change, with the National Parents
>>> Organization saying in a statement prior to the decision: “We will not
>>> allow the members of the cabinet to continue abusing our children.”
>>> Parent advocates also highlighted a report by Elem, the organization
>>> that helps youth in distress, which said that there has been a 41%
>>> increase in adolescents experiencing serious mental health issues, as
>>> well as a sharp rise in substance abuse.
>>> BUT HEALTH Ministry officials were unhappy. Health Minister Yuli
>>> Edelstein said in response to the decision that “lockdown requires
>>> personal responsibility from each and every one of us. Unfortunately,
>>> not everyone acts responsibly. We saw this today in the Knesset’s
>>> Education Committee, in the unfortunate decision to resume schooling in
>>> all classrooms – something that will surely extend the closure.”
>>> Coronavirus commissioner Prof. Nachman Ash also disagreed strongly with
>>> this decision, saying in a briefing, “According to our recommendation,
>>> the education system should have been closed. The government’s decision
>>> was to allow the opening of kindergartens, grades 1-4 and 11-12. Any
>>> additional opening of classrooms means extending the duration of the
>>> closure and lowering its effectiveness.
>>> “In my opinion, it is right to make the closure as short as possible, to
>>> limit activities and not to conduct studies along with other age
>>> groups,” he said.
>>> At the same time, Education Minister Yoav Gallant instructed the
>>> director general of his ministry to give immediate notice to the
>>> directors of the districts and of the educational institutions,
>>> according to which the education system will continue to operate on
>>> Monday as it did on Sunday.
>>> But as of Sunday night, two factors threatened to derail the wishes of
>>> so many parents hoping their children would be able to study during the
>>> third lockdown.
>>> The first was uncertainty about pupils in red and orange cities and/or
>>> neighborhoods, according to the traffic-light plan of differential
>>> regulations depending on the morbidity rates in different areas.
>>> It was not clear which cities and neighborhoods were actually designated
>>> red and orange, since the traffic-light colors are supposed to be
>>> updated weekly on Thursday and the instructions derived from them are
>>> supposed to be valid for an entire week – but the colors were not
>>> updated last week. The last time the stoplight plan was calculated, more
>>> than half of the country (56%) was in red or orange areas.
>>> The other factor that might interfere with the plan was a labor dispute
>>> announced Sunday by the Teachers Union, in protest over teachers not
>>> being vaccinated yet.
>>> Yaffa Ben-David, secretary general of the Teachers Union, said Sunday
>>> that, “if there are no vaccines, there will be no studies – we will not
>>> agree to abandon the health of teaching staff... It is not possible for
>>> teaching staff to sacrifice themselves while all Israeli citizens are in
>>> lockdown and the state will not take care of their health protection.
>>> There is no reason not to vaccinate the teaching staff. “
>>> She noted that, “just a few days ago, the Health Ministry published a
>>> report according to which teaching staff are at a high risk of
>>> infection, at a rate of 50% relative to the general population.” She
>>> said that the union would not hesitate to take further steps. “If the
>>> problem is not resolved, we will not hesitate and take organizational
>>> measures – including sanctions and a strike.”
>>> IN HIS BRIEFING, Ash said that “within a few days” a decision would be
>>> made about when and how teachers would receive vaccinations. Edelstein
>>> announced Saturday night that he had instructed the director general of
>>> his ministry, Prof. Chezy Levy, to facilitate the vaccination of
>>> teaching staff.
>>> When the teachers do get vaccinated, it may be in a new vaccination
>>> center that the Tel Aviv-Jaffa municipality is opening with Tel Aviv
>>> Sourasky Medical Center on January 4 at Rabin Square.
>>> The center will include an immunization tent with 20 stands that will be
>>> operated by the hospital’s nursing staff. Initially, the center will be
>>> open to residents of the city aged 60 and over, and later to all
>>> Israelis. When it opens, it will operate from Sunday through Thursday
>>>from 8 a.m. to 10 p.m. and on Fridays from 8 a.m. to 3 p.m.
>>> The center is expected to vaccinate about 5,000 people a day in the
>>> first phase; later, that will increase. The vaccines will be given
>>> according to the guidelines set by the Health Ministry.
>>> “Since the outbreak of the coronavirus, the municipality has been
>>> mobilized to protect the health of the residents and to maintain a sense
>>> of routine alongside the virus,” said Tel Aviv Mayor Ron Huldai.
>>> “We have set up an epidemiological research center with over 100
>>> researchers, testing centers in the neighborhoods and now, a huge
>>> vaccination center in collaboration with Ichilov [hospital, Sourasky
>>> Medical Center in Tel Aviv],” he said. “We will continue to be at the
>>> forefront of the struggle for the benefit of the city’s residents and
>>> all the citizens of the country.”
>>> “As we enter the third closure, it is clear to all of us that our main
>>> goal right now is to vaccinate as many civilians as possible,” added
>>> Ichilov’s director and former coronavirus commissioner Prof. Ronni Gamzu.
>>> “Through Mayor Ron Huldai, who immediately signed on with the Rabin
>>> Square vaccine center, we will continue to vaccinate thousands of people
>>> a day in the huge compound we are setting up with the municipality, all
>>> for one purpose – to finally get rid of coronavirus.”
>>> The system for scheduling appointments for the new complex is still
>>> being determined, and will be published later.
>>> “We’re completing the first week of coronavirus vaccinations with an
>>> unbelievable number of 280,000 vaccinated people,” Edelstein tweeted
>>> Sunday, adding that 71,000 people were vaccinated during the weekend
>>> alone. “We’ll continue to keep Israel safe,” he said. The Maccabi Health
>>> Fund reported Sunday that today 21,009 patients have been vaccinated.
>>> Since the beginning of the operation, 82,077 Maccabi members have been
>>> vaccinated. Tomorrow, it promised that the vaccine rate will increase
>>> even more.
>>> Since the beginning of the vaccination operation, 445,277 appointments
>>> have been set for 227,538 Maccabi members.
>>> ISRAEL IS once more first place worldwide in vaccine distribution,
>>> according to the tracker by Our World in Data. Edelstein, who is in the
>>> Likud Party, celebrated the accomplishment in a statement targeting
>>> unity government partner Blue and White, saying that, “While Blue and
>>> White practices populism and irresponsibility at the expense of public
>>> health, we’re working hard and have led Israel to the first place in the
>>> world regarding vaccine distribution and concern for public health.”
>>> While the hospital system has not collapsed, Jerusalem area hospitals
>>> are full. The Health Ministry on Sunday morning directed Magen David
>>> Adom (MDA), Israel’s national emergency medical service, to stop sending
>>> coronavirus patients to hospitals in Jerusalem in an attempt to reduce
>>> pressure on them. Patients from the Jerusalem area will be sent to
>>> hospitals in central Israel starting Sunday, including Sheba Medical
>>> Center, Beilinson Hospital and the Sourasky Medical Center.
>>> As of Sunday morning, the ministry reported that from midnight Friday to
>>> midnight Saturday, 2,636 cases were diagnosed and another 1,097 were
>>> added between midnight Saturday and 7 a.m. on Sunday. Six hundred and
>>> four patients were in serious condition and 136 were on ventilators.
>>> Since the pandemic began, 3,222 have died.
>>> While Edelstein expressed concern over the decision to keep all school
>>> grades open, he praised the teams in charge of the vaccinations
>>> countrywide, saying: “But I trust you, citizens of Israel. If we all act
>>> responsibly, we will see the great light at the end of the plague.”
>>> Blue and White said: “In all countries of the world, the education
>>> system also operates in a quarantine. Netanyahu, who has avoided dealing
>>> with hot spots and raising fines for narrow political reasons, continues
>>> to use corona for his political needs.
>>> “We will not be preached to by those who bring hundreds of thousands of
>>> families to poverty and have not passed a budget just to escape the law
>>> and harm the justice system.”
>>> Maayan Jaffe-Hoffman and Jerusalem Post Staff contributed to this report.
>>
>> The only healthy way to stop the pandemic in Israel & the rest of the
>> Mideast is by rapidly ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) finding out
>> at any given moment, including even while on-line, who among us are
>> unwittingly contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order
>> to http://bit.ly/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12) for them to call their
>> doctor and self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this
>> pandemic even in the worst-case scenario of the "UK variant mutations"
>> **and** others like the "cluster-5 mink mutations" (read more via
>> Google) rendering current vaccines ineffective.
>>
>> Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 )
>> and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/W0vmJ8I1RlA/m/ZAwgiZv8AwAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 29, 2020, 6:27:37 PM12/29/20
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@Mark brandy wrote:

> beautiful woman with a beautiful comment how are you doing today
> how is the weather over there right now

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Mark brandy , I am simply wonderfully hungry and hope you, Mark,
> and others reading my comment at the top, also have a healthy
> appetite too. So how are you ?

@Mark brandy wrote:

> you are very beautiful is really nice to know you

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Mark brandy , taking your interest to mean "yes, you have
> a healthy appetite," I, as a cardiologist, share with you,
> Mark, that it's wonderful knowing through our hunger that
> we're both not having a heart attack (aka myocardial infarction)
> at the moment in accordance with pure logic {{healthy=wonderful &
> appetite=hunger}} and advise that you try to write that you're
> "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that you are:
> So now how are you ?

@Mark brandy wrote:

(nothing meaningful for 4 hours)

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Mark brandy, your not being able to write that you're "wonderfully hungry"
> when greeted here means, Mark, you're #StatCOVID19Test *positive*
> indicating that it's possible you're unwittingly contagious
> (i.e. pre-symptomatic) needing to call your doctor & to self-quarantine
> per CDC guidelines.

Source:
https://bit.ly/Positive122920

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 30, 2020, 12:43:10 PM12/30/20
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MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MichaelE wrote:
>>
>>> http://ethicsalarms.com/2020/12/29/from-a-school-superintendent-authentic-frontier-gibberish-and-more-evidence-of-why-our-children-are-in-trouble/
>>>
>>> From A School Superintendent, Authentic Frontier Gibberish And More
>>> Evidence Of Why Our Children Are In Trouble.
>>> DECEMBER 29, 2020 / JACK MARSHALL
>>>
>>> A nice, smart, passionate, and painfully progressive Facebook friend
>>> posted this letter with approval on his page. It was originally written
>>> and posted by a superintendent in Voorheesville in upstate New York, and
>>> has been circulating on social media for all the wrong reasons. The
>>> letter was directed to “All teachers and parents.”
>>>
>>> I’ll have some observations at the end, if I can control my gag reflex.
>>>
>>> Dear Friends and Colleagues: I am writing today about the children of
>>> this pandemic. After a lifetime of working among the young, I feel
>>> compelled to address the concerns that are being expressed by so many of
>>> my peers about the deficits the children will demonstrate when they
>>> finally return to school. My goodness, what a disconcerting thing to be
>>> concerned about in the face of a pandemic which is affecting millions of
>>> people around the country and the world. It speaks to one of my biggest
>>> fears for the children when they return. In our determination to “catch
>>> them up,” I fear that we will lose who they are and what they have
>>> learned during this unprecedented era. What on earth are we trying to
>>> catch them up on? The models no longer apply, the benchmarks are no
>>> longer valid, the trend analyses have been interrupted. We must not
>>> forget that those arbitrary measures were established by people, not
>>> ordained by God. We can make those invalid measures as obsolete as a
>>> crank up telephone! They simply do not apply. When the children return
>>> to school, they will have returned with a new history that we will need
>>> to help them identify and make sense of. When the children return to
>>> school, we will need to listen to them. Let their stories be told. They
>>> have endured a year that has no parallel in modern times. There is no
>>> assessment that applies to who they are or what they have learned.
>>> Remember, their brains did not go into hibernation during this year.
>>> Their brains may not have been focused on traditional school material,
>>> but they did not stop either. Their brains may have been focused on
>>> where their next meal is coming from, or how to care for a younger
>>> sibling, or how to deal with missing grandma, or how it feels to have to
>>> surrender a beloved pet, or how to deal with death. Our job is to
>>> welcome them back and help them write that history. I sincerely plead
>>> with my colleagues, to surrender the artificial constructs that measure
>>> achievement and greet the children where they are, not where we think
>>> they “should be.” Greet them with art supplies and writing materials,
>>> and music and dance and so many other avenues to help them express what
>>> has happened to them in their lives during this horrific year. Greet
>>> them with stories and books that will help them make sense of an
>>> upside-down world. They missed you. They did not miss the test prep.
>>> They did not miss the worksheets. They did not miss the reading groups.
>>> They did not miss the homework. They missed you. Resist the pressure
>>>from whatever ‘powers that be’ who are in a hurry to “fix” kids and make
>>> up for the “lost” time. The time was not lost, it was invested in
>>> surviving an historic period of time in their lives—in our lives. The
>>> children do not need to be fixed. They are not broken. They need to be
>>> heard. They need be given as many tools as we can provide to nurture
>>> resilience and help them adjust to a post pandemic world. Being a
>>> teacher is an essential connection between what is and what can be.
>>> Please, let what can be demonstrate that our children have so much to
>>> share about the world they live in and in helping them make sense of
>>> what, for all of us has been unimaginable. This will help them– and us–
>>> achieve a lot more than can be measured by any assessment tool ever
>>> devised. Peace to all who work with the children!Being a teacher is an
>>> essential connection between what is and what can be. Please, let what
>>> can be demonstrate that our children have so much to share about the
>>> world they live in and in helping them make sense of what, for all of us
>>> has been unimaginable. This will help them– and us– achieve a lot more
>>> than can be measured by any assessment tool ever devised. Peace to all
>>> who work with the children!
>>>
>>> Observations:
>>>
>>>
>>> This is classic “Authentic Frontier Gibberish,” containing lots of
>>> buzzwords and feelgood phrases in an uplifting tone that create a mood
>>> rather than an actual message containing information. It is designed to
>>> make everyone feel warm and optimistic–and shout out “Rarrit!” like
>>> Gabby Johnson—without providing anything useful, just rationalizations
>>> and fantasy.
>>> It is also one more example of “Yoo’s Rationalzation,” or “It isn’t what
>>> it is.” Our children, including college students, have been robbed
>>> (unnecessarily) of nearly a full year of crucial and irreplaceable
>>> social interaction and other experiences, and this sap wants us to
>>> believe that it was all valuable. Why is “lost” is quotes? Does the
>>> writer really believe that nothing had been lost in a year in which kids
>>> have attended school through computer screens while being robbed of
>>> normal recreation, socialization and interaction with peers?
>>> Is it too cynical to suggest that the writer is attempting to relieve
>>> teachers and administrators of their responsibility for closing the
>>> schools and handicapping our children while simultaneously triggering a
>>> general society shutdown, by claiming”It’s all OK, just different!”?
>>> What are those “stories and books that will help them make sense of an
>>> upside-down world”? How would they be different from the stories and
>>> books that will help them make sense out of life generally, before,
>>> during, or after a pandemic?
>>> What is it that children have to communicate about what is going on that
>>> will be so enlightening, when adults have been inconsistent and
>>> incoherent, continue to make decisions driven by panic, guesswork,
>>> emotion and politics, and still appear to have little sense of what’s
>>> coming next?
>>> I detect in this screed the basis upon which we now allow children
>>> lecture us on various policy matters about which they know little except
>>> what their teachers have force-fed them regarding guns, climate change,
>>> civil rights and speech. “Listen to the children!” Why? Well, they are
>>> attractive vehicles of pre-programmed advocacy that cannot be criticized
>>> without bringing fury down on critics.
>>> It is, or should be, terrifying that our schools are led by
>>> administrators and teacher capable of flabby reasoning like this, and
>>> that this is the quality of mind teaching our rising generations.
>>
>> Those who are hangry (aka http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry like
>> http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau ) "can't get no satisfaction" (Mick Jagger
>> c/o Rolling Stones).
>>
>> Instead of hangry, I am simply wonderfully hungry (
>> http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and hope you, Michael, also have a
>> healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/hGzEp2pgtyE/m/b0k1yPp5BAAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 30, 2020, 10:48:34 PM12/30/20
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@Joseph Harris wrote:

> So what are you trying to say ?

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Joseph Harris , I am simply wonderfully hungry and hope you, Joseph,
> and others reading my comment at the top, also have a healthy
> appetite too. So how are you ?

@Joseph Harris wrote:

> @HeartDoc Andrew so what are you trying to say ?

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Joseph Harris , taking your interest to mean "yes, you have
> a healthy appetite," I, as a cardiologist, share with you,
> Joseph, that it's wonderful knowing through our hunger that
> we're both not having a heart attack (aka myocardial infarction)
> at the moment in accordance with pure logic {{healthy=wonderful &
> appetite=hunger}} and advise that you try to write that you're
> "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that you are:
> So now how are you ?

@Joseph Harris wrote:

>@HeartDoc Andrew I'm good homie..but what are you trying to say ?

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Joseph Harris, your not being able to write that you're "wonderfully hungry"
> when greeted here means, Joseph, you're #StatCOVID19Test *positive*
> indicating that it's possible you're unwittingly contagious
> (i.e. pre-symptomatic) needing to call your doctor & to self-quarantine
> per CDC guidelines.

Source:
https://bit.ly/Positive123020

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 1, 2021, 3:33:57 PM1/1/21
to
@Neal Harris wrote:

> When a virus mutates it only gets weaker, especially this one.
> Nice try MSM. Tick tock tick tock

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Neal Harris , I am simply wonderfully hungry and hope you, Neal,
> and others reading my comment at the top, also have a healthy
> appetite too. So how are you ?

@Neal Harris wrote:

> @HeartDoc Andrew wonderful thx

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Neal Harris , taking your "wonderful" to mean "yes, you have
> a healthy appetite," I, as a cardiologist, share with you,
> Neal, that it's wonderful knowing through our hunger that
> we're both not having a heart attack (aka myocardial infarction)
> at the moment in accordance with pure logic {{healthy=wonderful &
> appetite=hunger}} and advise that you try to write that you're
> "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that you are:
> So now how are you ?

@Neal Harris wrote:

(nothing for 22 minutes)

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Neal Harris, your not being able to write that you're "wonderfully hungry"
> when greeted here means, Neal, you're #StatCOVID19Test *positive*
> indicating that it's possible you're unwittingly contagious
> (i.e. pre-symptomatic) needing to call your doctor & to self-quarantine
> per CDC guidelines.

Source:
https://bit.ly/Positive010121

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 2, 2021, 1:22:21 AM1/2/21
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MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MichaelE wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-12-30/los-angeles-locked-down-covid-came-anyway
>>>
>>>
>>> Los Angeles Locked Down. Covid Came Anyway.
>>> The city’s crisis contradicts the simple narrative that outbreaks are
>>> punishment for red-state recklessness.
>>>
>>> By Virginia Postrel
>>> December 30, 2020, 8:00 AM PST
>>> ...
>>> My neighbors’ children haven’t seen the inside of a classroom since
>>> spring. The book I checked out from the UCLA library to research this
>>> March column is still in my bedroom, gathering dust. Not even the
>>> drop-off return box is open. We haven’t eaten inside a restaurant or
>>> entered a museum, library or theater since March. They’re all shut down.
>>> This isn’t New York, with its delightfully uncrowded museums.
>>>
>>> Los Angeles has endured nine months of a shutdown more extreme than most
>>> of the country’s — or the world’s. In the beginning, the city even
>>> closed the parks. You still can’t enter the Venice Beach boardwalk
>>> except to pick up takeout food. No walks, bike rides or fishing on the pier.
>>>
>>>
>>> One of the few positive side effects of the pandemic was the spread of
>>> outdoor dining. L.A.’s climate is ideal for it, but the city normally
>>> makes it a permitting nightmare. Covid changed that — temporarily. Now,
>>> despite legal challenges, sidewalks and patios are again bereft of
>>> tables. Only takeout is allowed.
>>>
>>> As Covid patients overwhelm local hospitals, filling intensive care
>>> units and consuming so much oxygen that hospitals warn of shortages —
>>> oxygen shortages! — my home contradicts the simple narrative that
>>> coronavirus outbreaks are righteous punishment for red state disregard.
>>> You can adopt every stricture, follow every rule, and still wind up with
>>> a crisis. The virus is relentless — and still more mysterious than we
>>> like to admit. The lockdown is wearisome. For those whose livelihoods
>>> are now illegal, it’s a crisis in itself.
>>>
>>> Although hair and nail salons did reopen for business in September,
>>> they’re again closed. Like many customers, my husband and I stayed away
>>> even during the brief reopening. We figured it couldn’t last. So my
>>> thumb sports a continual bandage, covering the permanently split nail
>>> formerly held together by a manicurist’s acrylic workmanship. My hair is
>>> the longest it has been since college, and my husband now sports a tiny
>>> ponytail. It keeps his hair looking normal on Zoom.
>>>
>>> relates to Los Angeles Locked Down. Covid Came Anyway.
>>> A day in downtown L.A.Photographer: BRENDAN LOTT/”Safer at Home”
>>> More from
>>> Vaccination Miracle Brings Israel Back to Its Roots
>>> Rural Downtowns Were on the Mend. Then Came Covid.
>>> Ending (and Creating) a Life: It’s Not All About You
>>> No One Predicted 2020. But How About 2021?
>>> Undriven for nine months, his car has a dead battery and cobwebs on it.
>>> No more 50-mile commutes a couple of times a week to teach and see
>>> colleagues at UC Irvine. Instead, he has a multiscreen setup in the home
>>> office. His MBA students, weary from jobs filled with Zoom meetings,
>>> aren’t fully engaged. Some don’t even turn on their cameras.
>>>
>>> My car, on the other hand, does get out, and not just to keep us
>>> supplied with food and toilet paper. Taking advantage of the
>>> Covid-induced reduction in L.A.’s infamous traffic, I’ve gone exploring,
>>> looking for backdrops to introduce videos inspired by my most recent
>>> book: a “Cannabis Before Prohibition” mural in Hollywood, a Uyghur
>>> restaurant in Alhambra, a cactus sculpture in West Hollywood.
>>>
>>> It reminds me of my early years here, in the late 1980s, when the city
>>> was a new and wonderful place to get to know, and driving, rather than
>>> walking, was my primary form of transportation. Except for placing an
>>> order at that Uyghur restaurant, however, I don’t talk to anyone. This
>>> is 2020, and “social distance” is the rule.
>>>
>>>
>>> From March to September, we paid the couple who cleans our house every
>>> four weeks to stay home. She went back to Guatemala, returning in the
>>> fall. In July, the virus swept through the household, probably brought
>>> home by one of the several young adult sons who share the two-bedroom
>>> apartment. No one was hospitalized, but it was a scare, and typical of
>>> the pandemic’s Los Angeles progress.
>>>
>>> Latinos, who often live in crowded, multigenerational households and
>>> work in retail, health care, construction and other essential jobs, have
>>> been hit hard. The city’s map of Covid cases per 100,000 residents by
>>> neighborhood tells the story: Richer neighborhoods have lower caseloads,
>>> poorer ones, with more people packed in each household, have higher
>>> ones. Our West L.A. neighborhood falls in the middle.
>>>
>>> Our pandemic experience hasn’t been that bad. My husband and I get along
>>> and like being together. With jobs we can do online and no kids to
>>> homeschool, we have it easy. Our three-bedroom condo gives us separate
>>> workspaces and room to spread out. I’ve turned our kitchen table into my
>>> own Zoom studio, complete with backdrop and lights for a 2020 book tour.
>>> I’d love to eat in a restaurant or travel cross country, but those are
>>> minor sacrifices compared with what many people are experiencing, even
>>> without getting sick.
>>>
>>> Brendan Lott, an artist who lives in downtown L.A., evokes the
>>> melancholy and isolation of the pandemic in a series of photographs
>>> titled “Safer at Home,” the official name of the city’s restrictions.
>>> Shooting from his high-rise apartment’s windows, he captures unknown
>>> neighbors as they work, smoke, exercise and check their phones, using
>>> the buildings’ architecture to obscure identities and heighten the
>>> claustrophobia. Evocative on Instagram, at gallery size the photos are
>>> haunting and painterly.
>>>
>>> Affluent and young, Lott’s subjects are hardly the pandemic’s greatest
>>> victims. But that thought makes the images even sadder.
>>
>> The only healthy way to stop the pandemic in L.A. & the rest of Cali
>> is by rapidly ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) finding out
>> at any given moment, including even while on-line, who among us are
>> unwittingly contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order
>> to http://bit.ly/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12) for them to call their
>> doctor and self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this
>> pandemic even in the worst-case scenario of the "UK variant mutations"
>> **and** others like the "cluster-5 mink mutations" (read more via
>> Google) rendering current vaccines ineffective.
>
> What is the false positivity rate?

Among believers (Romans 10:9), the "false positive" rate is 0 (zero) %

So that when we witness that a believer (Romans 10:9) is not able to
say they're "wonderfully hungry" when either greeting or being greeted
and then they confess to having anosmia (
http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) as the reason why they can't, we are
allowed to be 100% certain that they truly are **positive** (i.e.
infected by the COVID-19 coronavirus).

> What is the false negativity rate?

The "false negative" rate is 0 (zero) %

So that when we witness someone saying/writing that they're
"wonderfully hungry" ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) when either
greeting or being greeted, we are allowed to be 100% certain that they
truly are **negative** (i.e. not infected by the COVID-19
coronavirus).

Bottom line:

http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 is miraculously the perfect screening
test for COVID-19 coronavirus infection among believers (Romans 10:9)
with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD.

Laus DEO :-)

>> Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 )
>> and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
>
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/sNnbsPGno3s/m/pB83_Y1ABQAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 2, 2021, 12:38:31 PM1/2/21
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@jake glenn wrote:

> ... Vaccine do not work and are unneeded ...

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @jake glenn , I am simply wonderfully hungry and hope you, Jake,
> and others reading my comment at the top, also have a healthy
> appetite too. So how are you ?

@jake glenn wrote:

> @HeartDoc Andrew Listen to any major network. None have reported
> any flu cases and the season started Oct 1st !! Covid is a lie ...

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @jake glenn , taking your continued interest here to mean "yes, you have
> a healthy appetite," I, as a cardiologist, share with you,
> Jake, that it's wonderful knowing through our hunger that
> we're both not having a heart attack (aka myocardial infarction)
> at the moment in accordance with pure logic {{healthy=wonderful &
> appetite=hunger}} and advise that you try to write that you're
> "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that you are:
> So now how are you ?

@jake glenn wrote:

(nothing for 60 minutes)

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @jake glenn, your not being able to write that you're "wonderfully hungry"
> when greeted here means, Jake, you're #StatCOVID19Test *positive*
> indicating that it's possible you're unwittingly contagious
> (i.e. pre-symptomatic) needing to call your doctor & to self-quarantine
> per CDC guidelines.

Source:
https://bit.ly/Positive010221

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 3, 2021, 11:55:34 AM1/3/21
to
@Larpy McLarperstein wrote:

> Tds patient. Get them to the front of the line. Two jabs for this one.
> Fook it. Make it 3.

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Larpy McLarperstein , I am simply wonderfully hungry and hope you, Larpy,
> and others reading my comment at the top, also have a healthy
> appetite too. So how are you ?

@Larpy McLarperstein wrote:

> @HeartDoc Andrew
> Oh wow, you’re already vaccine inured.

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Larpy McLarperstein, taking your continued interest here to mean "yes,
> you have a healthy appetite," I, as a cardiologist, share with you,
> Larpy, that it's wonderful knowing through our hunger that
> we're both not having a heart attack (aka myocardial infarction)
> at the moment in accordance with pure logic {{healthy=wonderful &
> appetite=hunger}} and advise that you try to write that you're
> "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that you are:
> So now how are you ?

@Larpy McLarperstein wrote:

(nothing for 6 hours)

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Larpy McLarperstein, your not being able to write that you're "wonderfully hungry"
> when greeted here means, Larpy, you're #StatCOVID19Test *positive*
> indicating that it's possible you're unwittingly contagious
> (i.e. pre-symptomatic) needing to call your doctor & to self-quarantine
> per CDC guidelines.

Source:
https://bit.ly/Positive010321

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 3, 2021, 1:44:30 PM1/3/21
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MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MichaelE wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-55518248
>>> Coronavirus: No increase in severe child cases, paediatricians say
>>> 02 January 2021 UK
>>> ...
>>> Doctors have sought to reassure parents that there has been no increase
>>> in the severity of Covid-19 cases among children because of the new variant.
>>>
>>> The Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health (RCPCH) said
>>> children's wards are not seeing any "significant pressure" from Covid-19.
>>>
>>> It comes after a London hospital matron told BBC Radio 5 Live of having
>>> a ward full of children with coronavirus.
>>>
>>> Laura Duffel said the surge in cases was "much scarier" than the first wave.
>>>
>>> Ms Duffel, who has been working on Covid wards since the beginning of
>>> the UK's epidemic and specialises in children's intensive care, told 5
>>> Live's Chiles on Friday show that people were "wrong" to say busy
>>> hospitals were merely a reflection of normal winter pressures on the NHS.
>>>
>>> "This wave has just hit us so fast. It's literally in the space of a
>>> week that this has gotten so bad," she said.
>>>
>>> "It's very different and I think that's what makes it so much scarier
>>> for us. We have children who are coming in. It was minimally affecting
>>> children in the first wave - [but now] we have a whole ward of children
>>> here [and] 20- and 30-year-olds with no underlying conditions are coming
>>> in."
>>>
>>> However, doctors denied that the virus is putting significant additional
>>> pressure on children's wards across the country.
>>>
>>> Virus is rife - 'but not among children'
>>> Prof Russell Viner, president of the RCPCH, said: "Children's wards are
>>> usually busy in winter. As of now we are not seeing significant pressure
>>>from Covid-19 in paediatrics across the UK.
>>>
>>> ...
>>> "As cases in the community rise there will be a small increase in the
>>> number of children we see with Covid-19, but the overwhelming majority
>>> of children and young people have no symptoms or very mild illness only.
>>>
>>> "The new variant appears to affect all ages and, as yet, we are not
>>> seeing any greater severity amongst children and young people."
>>>
>>> Dr Ronny Cheung, a consultant paediatrician at Evelina Children's
>>> Hospital, in London, added: "I've been the on-call consultant in a
>>> London children's hospital this week. Covid is rife in hospitals, but
>>> not among children - and that is corroborated by my colleagues across
>>> London."
>>>
>>> Prof Calum Semple said that he spoke to colleagues on intensive care
>>> units and "not one of them has seen a surge in sick children coming into
>>> critical care and we're not hearing of a rise in cases in the wards either".
>>>
>>> "We're not seeing a different spectrum of disease in children, certainly
>>> we're not seeing a surge in cases," Prof Semple told BBC Radio 4's PM
>>> programme.
>>>
>>> Dr Liz Whittaker, a consultant paediatrician at St Mary's Hospital
>>> London, said "only small numbers" of children who test positive for
>>> Covid develop severe disease and these are "within expected levels" at
>>> the moment.
>>>
>>> "I continue to worry for my elders, not my kids," Dr Whittaker added.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, Dr Lee Hudson, from Great Ormond Street Hospital, said that
>>> none of his paediatric colleagues at hospital across London were
>>> reporting higher rates of sick children because of Covid but said that
>>> parents should never be afraid to seek medical help if they are worried
>>> about their children.
>>
>> The only healthy way to stop the pandemic from making more children
>> sick is by rapidly ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) finding out
>> at any given moment, including even while on-line, who among us are
>> unwittingly contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order
>> to http://bit.ly/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12) for them to call their
>> doctor and self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this
>> pandemic even in the worst-case scenario of the "UK variant mutations"
>> **and** others like the "cluster-5 mink mutations" (read more via
>> Google) rendering current vaccines ineffective.
>>
>> Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 )
>> and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/YDdrfwVZPkA/m/naktp7C3BQAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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@RITA- HOT-GIRL wrote:

> Bg ky ...

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @RITA- HOT-GIRL , I am simply wonderfully hungry and hope you, Rita,
> and others reading my comment at the top, also have a healthy
> appetite too. So how are you ?

@RITA- HOT-GIRL wrote:

> Gd you have a good ...

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @RITA- HOT-GIRL, taking your continued interest here to mean "yes,
> you have a healthy appetite," I, as a cardiologist, share with you,
> Rita, that it's wonderful knowing through our hunger that
> we're both not having a heart attack (aka myocardial infarction)
> at the moment in accordance with pure logic {{healthy=wonderful &
> appetite=hunger}} and advise that you try to write that you're
> "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that you are:
> So now how are you ?

@RITA- HOT-GIRL wrote:

(nothing for 23 minutes)

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @RITA- HOT-GIRL, your not being able to write that you're "wonderfully hungry"
> when greeted here means, Rita, you're #StatCOVID19Test *positive*
> indicating that it's possible you're unwittingly contagious
> (i.e. pre-symptomatic) needing to call your doctor & to self-quarantine
> per CDC guidelines.

Source:
https://bit.ly/Positive010421

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MichaelE wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.kron4.com/health/coronavirus/new-restrictions-santa-clara-county-businesses-must-close-employee-breakrooms/amp/
>>>
>>>
>>> New restrictions: Santa Clara County businesses must close employee
>>> break rooms
>>> Bay City News and Dan Thorn
>>> 1 day ago
>>>
>>> SANTA CLARA COUNTY, Calif. (BCN) – Santa Clara County health officials
>>> kicked off 2021 by adding new restrictions on businesses — they must now
>>> close their employee break rooms.
>>>
>>> While officials said they had issued previous “guidance” on break rooms,
>>> an earlier version of the county’s directive did not include any
>>> language about closing indoor employee break rooms.
>>>
>>> According to the changes, made on Dec. 31, businesses in Silicon Valley
>>> must “prohibit personnel from using any indoor break rooms or break
>>> areas for eating or drinking” — even if they’re alone at the time.
>>>
>>>
>>> Employees can access cafeterias and break rooms only to use appliances
>>> such as coffee makers, refrigerators or microwaves. They can store or
>>> heat up food, but cannot eat it inside the breakroom. County officials
>>> recommend eating lunch in the car, the safest option.
>>>
>>> Employees can use break areas for legally-protected purposes, such as
>>> lactation.
>>> “Eating indoors in a break room is one of the highest-risk activities
>>> during this pandemic because break rooms are usually small with poor
>>> ventilation, and face coverings must be removed in order to eat,” the
>>> county wrote in an updated FAQ document.
>>>
>>> “Employee break rooms have proven to be one of the most common causes of
>>> workplace COVID-19 transmission.”
>>>
>>> Health care facilities and hospitals are exempt from this rule.
>>
>> Aside from deference to healthcare workers, there is no reason to
>> exempt medical facilities from this rule.
>>
>>> Any businesses that cannot close their indoor break rooms must appeal to the
>>> county for an exception and come up with a safety plan, such as
>>> staggering employee breaks or creating an outdoor break area. They also
>>> must increase ventilation in the room and regularly disinfect high-touch
>>> surfaces.
>>>
>>> The county previous advised employees to wear masks in break rooms,
>>> maintain six feet of distance, remain seated, minimize conversations and
>>> eat outdoors “whenever possible.”
>>>
>>> The new rules come as Santa Clara County confronts an alarming spike in
>>> COVID-19 cases, straining area hospitals.
>>>
>>> As of Dec. 31, the county recorded 69,870 cumulative COVID-19 cases and
>>> 709 deaths. Those figures reflect an increase of 2,507 new cases and 36
>>> new deaths in recent days.
>>>
>>> The county reported 681 people are hospitalized with COVID-19 and
>>> officials said only 28 ICU beds are left.
>>>
>>> Access to COVID-19 vaccines is limited and slow. The county has received
>>> more than 94,805 COVID-19 vaccines so far, but they’re rolling them out
>>> in tiers with a priority on health care workers.
>>>
>>> Officials reported administering 500 shots this week at a new clinic to
>>> fire department personnel, EMTs, critical care transport nurses and
>>> paramedics on air ambulances.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, health officials are urging people to continue getting tested
>>> — especially if they’ve been exposed during the holidays.
>>>
>>> For people without COVID-19 symptoms, the county is offering indoor and
>>> drive-through sites. Those who have symptoms should use drive-through
>>> sites to prevent infecting others.
>>>
>>> “There is a light at the end of the tunnel through the vaccinations that
>>> have begun,” said Santa Clara County COVID-19 Testing officer Marty
>>> Fenstersheib.
>>>
>>> “But that in no way means we can let our guard down. The positivity rate
>>> is tenfold what it was just two months ago – COVID-19 is more prevalent
>>> in the community than ever before. Anyone who believes they may have
>>> been exposed should quarantine and get tested.”
>>
>> The only healthy way to stop the pandemic in Santa Clara County and
>> elsewhere is by rapidly ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) finding
>> out at any given moment, including even while on-line, who among us
>> are unwittingly contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in
>> order to http://bit.ly/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12) for them to call
>> their doctor and self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping
>> this pandemic even in the worst-case scenario of the "UK variant
>> mutations" **and** others like the South African & "cluster-5 mink
>> mutations" (read more via Google) rendering current vaccines
>> ineffective.
>>
>> Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 )
>> and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
>
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/E1nQBf3hwVU/m/iTS3xmNPBgAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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@RussCR5187 wrote:

> "rendering current vaccines no longer effective."
> That is pure (unjustified) speculation on your part.
> Just thought you'd like to know.

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @RussCR5187 , I am simply wonderfully hungry and hope you, Russ,
> and others reading my comment at the top, also have a healthy
> appetite too. So how are you ?

@RussCR5187 wrote:

> @HeartDoc Andrew Ach. On first reading I somehow missed that
> you were considering the defeat of the current vaccines a
> "worse-case scenario." My sincere apologies. I hope you enjoy
> the rest of your day.

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @RussCR5187, taking your apologizing here to mean "yes,
> you have a healthy appetite," I, as a cardiologist, share with you,
> Russ, that it's wonderful knowing through our hunger that
> we're both not having a heart attack (aka myocardial infarction)
> at the moment in accordance with pure logic {{healthy=wonderful &
> appetite=hunger}} and advise that you try to write that you're
> "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that you are:
> So now how are you ?

@RussCR5187 wrote:

(nothing for 60 minutes)

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @RussCR5187, your not being able to write that you're "wonderfully hungry"
> when greeted here means, Russ, you're #StatCOVID19Test *positive*
> indicating that it's possible you're unwittingly contagious
> (i.e. pre-symptomatic) needing to call your doctor & to self-quarantine
> per CDC guidelines.

Source:
https://bit.ly/Positive010521

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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@steve marshall wrote:

> propaganda

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @steve marshall , I am simply wonderfully hungry and hope you, Steve,
> and others reading my comment at the top, also have a healthy
> appetite too. So how are you ?

@steve marshall wrote:

> @HeartDoc Andrew regional hospitals near me closed

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @steve marshall, taking your continued interest to mean "yes,
> you have a healthy appetite," I, as a cardiologist, share with you,
> Steve, that it's wonderful knowing through our hunger that
> we're both not having a heart attack (aka myocardial infarction)
> at the moment in accordance with pure logic {{healthy=wonderful &
> appetite=hunger}} and advise that you try to write that you're
> "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that you are:
> So now how are you ?

@steve marshall wrote:

(nothing meaningful for more than 30 minutes)

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @steve marshall, your not being able to write that you're "wonderfully hungry"
> when greeted here means, Steve, you're #StatCOVID19Test *positive*
> indicating that it's possible you're unwittingly contagious
> (i.e. pre-symptomatic) needing to call your doctor & to self-quarantine
> per CDC guidelines.

Source:
https://bit.ly/Positive010521b

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Andrew W

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Why do you post blank replies?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Andrew_W wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Andrew_W wrote:
>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> Andrew_W wrote:
>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>> Andrew_W wrote:
>>>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>> Andrew_W wrote:
>>>>>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Andrew_W wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What you have written about the Bible has not changed what is
>>>>>>>>>>>> written in the Bible.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't say it does. What's your point?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "What's written at 2 Timothy 3:16-17 is 'All Scripture is GOD-breathed
>>>>>>>>>> and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in
>>>>>>>>>> righteousness, so that the servant of GOD may be thoroughly equipped
>>>>>>>>>> for every good work.'"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Source:
>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/pA_GEpPbML8/Vg4sGftBBAAJ
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, so? It was just words by one human writer long ago. So what's
>>>>>>>>> your point?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your "question to all Christians" in your sig has been answered in
>>>>>>>> "righteousness" (2 Timothy 3:16) with Scripture.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No it hasn't. You just show that you can't think for yourself. You have a
>>>>>>> complex brain but you don't use it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, "teaching, rebuking, correcting and training" (2 Timothy
>>>>>> 3:16) proves that "a complex brain" is being used.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Really? How? It's just words. Anyone can write stuff like that. It
>>>>> doesn't make it true.
>>>>
>>>> Simpler creatures (aka "lower lifeforms") that don't have "a complex
>>>> brain" to use are not seen "teaching, rebuking, correcting and
>>>> training" (2 Timothy 3:16).
>>>>
>>>
>>> Are you talking about animals? You can't be referring to humans. Humans can
>>> do all of those things...
>>
>> ... only if they are using "a complex brain" thereby proving they have
>> "a complex brain" by using it.
>>
>>> Start talking some sense.
>>
>> Bottom line:
>>
>> Therefore, "teaching, rebuking, correcting and training" (2 Timothy
>> 3:16) proves that "a complex brain" is being used.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the interim, I am simply wonderfully hungry (
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) and hope you, Andrew_W, also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a healthy appetite too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So how are you ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm ok ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Taking your reply to mean "yes, you have a healthy appetite," I
>>>>>>>>>>>> share with you, Andrew_W, that it's really wonderful knowing
>>>>>>>>>>>> through our hunger that we're both not having a heart attack at the moment in
>>>>>>>>>>>> accordance with pure logic (healthy=wonderful & appetite=hunger)
>>>>>>>>>>>> and advise that you try to write that you're "wonderfully hungry"
>>>>>>>>>>>> since we've established here that you are:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So now how are you ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes I'm hungry ...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Again, I advise that you, Andrew_W really try to write that you're
>>>>>>>>>> "wonderfully hungry" since we've established and now you've affirmed
>>>>>>>>>> here that you are:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So now again, how are you ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why do you want to know this? Why are you so obsessed with hunger?
>>>>>>>>> Are you ok? Are you not getting enough of something? What?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Again, I really advise that you, Andrew_W **really** try to write that
>>>>>>>> you're "wonderfully hungry" since we've established and you've
>>>>>>>> affirmed in what you've written that you are:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So now again, how are you ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why do you want to know? What will happen if I don't answer your
>>>>>>> strange question?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again, I really advise a 4th time here that you, Andrew_W **really**
>>>>>> try to write that you're "wonderfully hungry" since we've established
>>>>>> and you've affirmed in what you've written that you are:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So now again, how are you ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Tell me why you want to know first?
>>>>> And what kind of hunger are you talking about? There are many forms of
>>>>> hunger.
>>>>
>>>> Again, I really advise a 5th time here that you, Andrew_W **really**
>>>> try to write that you're "wonderfully hungry" since we've established
>>>> and you've affirmed in what you've written that you are:
>>>>
>>>> So now again, how are you ?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Tell me why you want to know first?
>>> And what kind of hunger are you talking about? There are many forms. Your
>>> question is irrational. Tell me what your problem is. I might be able to
>>> help.
>>
>> (additional greetings and non-answers snipped)
>>
>> Source:
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/pA_GEpPbML8/wUQk3k2iAgAJ
>>
>> Again, I really advise a 9th time here that you, Andrew_W **really**
>> try to write that you're "wonderfully hungry" since we've established
>> and you've affirmed in what you've written that you are:
>>
>> So now again, how are you ?
>
> Well go eat something and get past this strangely persistent problem.

While http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry (Philippians 4_12) in the Holy
Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD changes your heart
(Ezekiel 11:19-20 & 36:26) so that you, Andrew_W, would come to trust
the truth (John 14:6), Who is LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth -->
http://T3WiJ.com Amen.

Laus DEO !

Andrew W

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Perishing soul? Worry instead about your perishing brain.


--
http://members.optusnet.com.au/ajwerner/

The golden rule with food - if it smells strange from the fridge then throw
it in the bin. With Christianity, if it sounds strange and it's from the
Bible then you must embrace it as the word of God.

A question to all Christians: Was the Bible inspired or dictated? Because if
it was just inspired then it can't be called God's word.

http://www.rumormillnews.com -- The best alternative news site

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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@8th Day Adventist wrote:

> You bot. You copy and paste on every msm video ...

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @8th Day Adventist , I am simply wonderfully hungry and hope you, Adventist,
> and others reading my comment at the top, also have a healthy
> appetite too. So how are you ?

@8th Day Adventist wrote:

> @HeartDoc Andrew Hungry for what? Slavery?

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @8th Day Adventist, taking your continued interest to mean "yes,
> you have a healthy appetite," I, as a cardiologist, share with you,
> Adventist, that it's wonderful knowing through our hunger that
> we're both not having a heart attack (aka myocardial infarction)
> at the moment in accordance with pure logic {{healthy=wonderful &
> appetite=hunger}} and advise that you try to write that you're
> "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that you are:
> So now how are you ?

@8th Day Adventist wrote:

(nothing for 5 hours)

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @8th Day Adventist, your not being able to write that you're "wonderfully hungry"
> when greeted here means, Adventist, you're #StatCOVID19Test *positive*
> indicating that it's possible you're unwittingly contagious
> (i.e. pre-symptomatic) needing to call your doctor & to self-quarantine
> per CDC guidelines.

Source:
https://bit.ly/Positive010921b

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 12, 2021, 6:52:11 PM1/12/21
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@Steve Clara wrote:

> Hello I love meeting new people online if you don’t mind
> can we be friends hope to hear from you soon ...

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Steve Clara , I am simply wonderfully hungry and hope you, Steve,
> and others reading my comment at the top, also have a healthy
> appetite too. So how are you ?

@Steve Clara wrote:

> @HeartDoc Andrew am good....let chat on hangouts dear if you
> don’t mind

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Steve Clara, taking your "good" to mean "yes,
> you have a healthy appetite," I, as a cardiologist, share with you,
> Steve, that it's wonderful knowing through our hunger that
> we're both not having a heart attack (aka myocardial infarction)
> at the moment in accordance with pure logic {{healthy=wonderful &
> appetite=hunger}} and advise that you try to write that you're
> "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that you are:
> So now how are you ?

@Steve Clara wrote:

(nothing meaningful for 60 minutes)

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Steve Clara, your not being able to write that you're "wonderfully hungry"
> when greeted here means, Steve, you're #StatCOVID19Test *positive*
> indicating that it's possible you're unwittingly contagious
> (i.e. pre-symptomatic) needing to call your doctor & to self-quarantine
> per CDC guidelines.

Source:
https://bit.ly/Positive011221

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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@mark wrote:

> It ain't that bad in Chicago!!

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @mark , I am simply wonderfully hungry and hope you, Mark,
> and others reading my comment at the top, also have a healthy
> appetite too. So how are you ?

@mark wrote:

> @HeartDoc Andrew I'm good thank u

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @mark, taking your "good" to mean "yes,
> you have a healthy appetite," I, as a cardiologist, share with you,
> Mark, that it's wonderful knowing through our hunger that
> we're both not having a heart attack (aka myocardial infarction)
> at the moment in accordance with pure logic {{healthy=wonderful &
> appetite=hunger}} and advise that you try to write that you're
> "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that you are:
> So now how are you ?

@mark wrote:

(nothing meaningful for 5 hours)

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @mark, your not being able to write that you're "wonderfully hungry"
> when greeted here means, Mark, you're #StatCOVID19Test *positive*
> indicating that it's possible you're unwittingly contagious
> (i.e. pre-symptomatic) needing to call your doctor & to self-quarantine
> per CDC guidelines.

Source:
https://bit.ly/Positive011321

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MichaelE wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-cases/as-china-covid-19-cases-rise-millions-more-placed-under-lockdown-idUSKBN29I03G?utm_source=reddit.com
>>>
>>> As China COVID-19 cases rise, millions more placed under lockdown
>>> By Yew Lun Tian
>> ...
>>>
>>> BEIJING (Reuters) - China posted its biggest daily jump in COVID cases
>>> in more than five months on Wednesday, stepping up containment measures
>>> that have seen four cities put under lockdown, as the world’s second
>>> biggest economy scrambles to head off a new wave of infections.
>>>
>>>
>>> Most of the new cases were reported near the capital Beijing, but a
>>> province in far northeast China also saw a rise in infections, official
>>> data showed, amid a resurgence that has seen more than 28 million people
>>> placed under home quarantine.
>>>
>>> While the Chinese city of Wuhan was the initial epicenter of the
>>> coronavirus pandemic, which first emerged there in late 2019, China had
>>> in recent months largely kept COVID-19 at bay.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, the National Health Commission reported a total of 115 new
>>> confirmed cases on the mainland, compared with 55 a day earlier, the
>>> highest daily increase since July 30.
>>>
>>> It said 107 of the new cases were local infections. Hebei, the province
>>> that surrounds Beijing, accounted for 90 of the cases, while
>>> northeastern Heilongjiang province reported 16 new cases.
>>>
>>>
>>> The wave of infecttions comes ahead of next month’s Lunar New Year
>>> holiday, when hundreds of millions of Chinese typically travel to their
>>> home towns. Far fewer people are expected to hit the road this year, and
>>> many provinces have asked migrant workers to stay put during the break.
>>>
>>> A “massive” resurgence is unlikely during the holiday if control and
>>> prevention measures are enforced properly, Feng Zijian, deputy director
>>> of the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention, told a media
>>> briefing on Wednesday.
>>>
>>> The spike in new cases comes as a World Health Organization team of
>>> experts probing the origins of the pandemic is set to arrive on Thursday
>>> in Wuhan. The team will undergo a 14-day quarantine, NHC spokesman Mi
>>> Feng said.
>>>
>>> Much remains unknown about the origins of the coronavirus and China has
>>> been sensitive about accusations of a cover-up that delayed its initial
>>> response and allowed the virus to spread. A health expert affiliated
>>> with the WHO said previously that expectations should be “very low” that
>>> the team would reach a conclusion from its trip to China.
>>>
>> ...
>>> CONTAINMENT EFFORTS Hebei province has put three cities - Shijiazhuang,
>>> Xingtai and Langfang - into lockdown as part of the efforts to keep the
>>> virus from spreading further, while Beijing city authorities have
>>> stepped up screening and prevention measures to prevent another cluster
>>>from developing there.
>>>
>>> China has administered more than 10 million vaccine doses, NHC official
>>> Wang Bin said on Wednesday, and has ramped up testing capacity to 12.55
>>> million people per day, or ten times the level last March.
>>>
>>> Heilongjiang province on Wednesday declared a COVID-19 emergency. The
>>> city of Suihua, which borders the provincial capital Harbin, put its 5.2
>>> million people under lockdown.
>>>
>>> Most of the cases in Heilongjiang have been found in Wangkui county,
>>> under Suihua’s jurisdiction. Tieli, a city of about 300,000 that borders
>>> Suihua, said on Wednesday it will ban people and vehicles from leaving
>>> for three days as part of new COVID-19 prevention measures.
>>>
>>> The number of new asymptomatic cases, which China does not classify as
>>> confirmed cases, fell to 38 from 81 cases a day earlier. Seven of those
>>> were reported in Jilin, a northeastern province bordering Heilongjiang.
>>>
>>> The total number of confirmed COVID-19 cases in mainland China now
>>> stands at 87,706, while the death toll remained unchanged at 4,634.
>>
>> The only healthy way to stop the pandemic in mainland China and
>> elsewhere is by rapidly ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) finding
>> out at any given moment, including even while on-line, who among us
>> are unwittingly contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in
>> order to http://bit.ly/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12) for them to call
>> their doctor and self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping
>> this pandemic even in the worst-case scenario of the "UK variant
>> mutations" **and** others like the South African & "cluster-5 mink
>> mutations" (read more via Google) rendering current vaccines
>> ineffective.
>>
>> Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 )
>> and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
>>
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/HgGFhdWlqYY/m/LM_Bvy1vCQAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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@Joe Dementia Fingers wrote:

> Heartsoy, Over 3 thousand people died of Dementia Joe- 19 today!
> Yeah that is some progress!

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Joe Dementia Fingers , I am simply wonderfully hungry and hope you, Joe,
> and others reading my comment at the top, also have a healthy
> appetite too. So how are you ?

@Joe Dementia Fingers wrote:

> @HeartDoc Andrew I got hairy legs,that,that,that,that,that turn blonde
> in the sun and kids would rub my legs and jump on my lap and that taught
> me about roaches!

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Joe Dementia Fingers, taking your continued interest to mean "yes,
> you have a healthy appetite," I, as a cardiologist, share with you,
> Joe, that it's wonderful knowing through our hunger that
> we're both not having a heart attack (aka myocardial infarction)
> at the moment in accordance with pure logic {{healthy=wonderful &
> appetite=hunger}} and advise that you try to write that you're
> "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that you are:
> So now how are you ?

@Joe Dementia Fingers wrote:

(nothing meaningful)

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Joe Dementia Fingers, your not being able to write that you're "wonderfully hungry"
> when greeted here means, Joe, you're #StatCOVID19Test *positive*
> indicating that it's possible you're unwittingly contagious
> (i.e. pre-symptomatic) needing to call your doctor & to self-quarantine
> per CDC guidelines.

Source:
https://bit.ly/Positive011521b

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 18, 2021, 4:58:15 AM1/18/21
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@John Carter wrote:

> You mean the Vaccine every democrat said they didn’t trust...

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @John Carter , I am simply wonderfully hungry and hope you, John,
> and others reading my comment at the top, also have a healthy
> appetite too. So how are you ?

@John Carter wrote:

> @HeartDoc Andrew I’m ok ...

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @John Carter, taking your "ok" to mean "yes,
> you have a healthy appetite," I, as a cardiologist, share with you,
> John, that it's wonderful knowing through our hunger that
> we're both not having a heart attack (aka myocardial infarction)
> at the moment in accordance with pure logic {{healthy=wonderful &
> appetite=hunger}} and advise that you try to write that you're
> "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that you are:
> So now how are you ?

@John Carter wrote:

(nothing for 3 hours)

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @John Carter, your not being able to write that you're "wonderfully hungry"
> when greeted here means, Joe, you're #StatCOVID19Test *positive*
> indicating that it's possible you're unwittingly contagious
> (i.e. pre-symptomatic) needing to call your doctor & to self-quarantine
> per CDC guidelines.

Source:
https://bit.ly/Positive011821

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 18, 2021, 10:23:16 PM1/18/21
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MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MichaelE wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/truck-drivers-denied-washrooms-1.5876587?__vfz=medium%3Dsharebar
>>>
>> ...
>>> Lack of access 'so wrong on so many levels,' trucking federation CEO says
>>> CBC News · Posted: Jan 17, 2021 4:00 AM ET | Last Updated: January 17
>>>
>>> Shelley Uvanile-Hesch, CEO of the Women's Trucking Federation of Canada
>>> (WTFC), is now pushing businesses to open their facilities and for
>>> carriers to stand up for their drivers. (Jonathan Castell/CBC)
>>>
>> ...
>>> Truckers delivering essential goods during the COVID-19 pandemic are
>>> facing a "dehumanizing" struggle to find open washrooms, one that could
>>> lead to health concerns down the road, according to a national agency
>>> that represents women drivers.
>>>
>>> Many chain restaurants and local businesses that remain open have
>>> restricted public access to their facilities, which means truckers
>>> working 12-hour shifts may end up not using a restroom all day.
>>>
>>> Shelley Uvanile-Hesch, CEO of the Women's Trucking Federation of Canada,
>>> is now pushing businesses to open their facilities and for carriers to
>>> stand up for their drivers.
>>>
>>> One female truck driver, she said, told her how she'd been unloading at
>>> a facility for six hours without being allowed to use the facilities —
>>> and when she asked a third time, was given a roll of toilet paper and
>>> told to go behind the building.
>>>
>>> "This is very dehumanizing. It is so wrong on so many levels,"
>>> Uvanile-Hesch said.
>>>
>>> "Drivers are human beings, we're not dogs. We don't go outside. We
>>> deserve to be able to go into a washroom like everybody else."
>>>
>>> Drivers are human beings. We're not dogs. We don't go outside.
>>> - Shelley Uvanile-Hesch, Women's Trucking Federation of Canada CEO
>>> Truckers experienced this heavily during the pandemic's first wave,
>>> Uvanile-Hesch said, and now they're going through it again.
>>>
>>> She said not having bathroom access could lead to long-term health
>>> effects like kidney disease and kidney stones.
>>>
>>> The long haul: Ottawa trucker riding out pandemic on increasingly
>>> inhospitable highways
>>> 'There's the bush': Truckers face challenges finding bathrooms, meals
>>> 'Alarmed:' Health critic calls for more data on COVID-19 in trucking
>>> industry
>>> "Imagine being a city driver in the [Greater Toronto Area] and you're
>>> making your deliveries and you work a 13-hour day — and there's no place
>>> for you to go to the washroom," she said.
>>>
>>>
>>> In a statement Saturday, Natasha Tremblay, a spokesperson for Ontario's
>>> Minister of Transportation Caroline Mulroney, called it "unacceptable"
>>> that drivers have been denied access to public restrooms and urged
>>> businesses to "step up and support" them.
>>>
>>> "Our government is committed to supporting the trucking industry. Truck
>>> drivers and commercial carriers have worked hard to keep goods moving
>>> for the people of Ontario and it is unacceptable that some of them have
>>> been denied washroom access," Tremblay said.
>>>
>>> There are currently 50 truck stops with bathrooms open on the province's
>>> highway network, Tremblay said. The province also plans to keep 18
>>> seasonal rest area locations open, along with 31 truck inspection
>>> stations and one tourist information centre.
>>>
>>> The sites are in addition to the province's 23 On Route service centres,
>>> she said.
>>>
>>> 'Have some compassion for us'
>>> While drivers are used to going a long time without washrooms —
>>> especially on trips through northern Ontario — designated spaces must be
>>> created during the pandemic, said truck driver Brigitte Belton.
>>>
>>> Belton, who's been driving a transport truck for the past six years,
>>> said she spends between 11 and 14 hours on the road each day — and it
>>> could be tough to continue on if businesses that are open keep refusing
>>> bathroom access.
>>>
>>> Even finding a bite to eat is difficult, she said, with many eateries
>>> closing as early as 8 p.m. — and that can be grueling for drivers who
>>> work long shifts that end late in the night.
>>>
>>> "Basically anywhere you go and pick up or deliver, they're refusing
>>> you," she said.
>>>
>>> "We're driving your medicine. We're driving your food. We're driving
>>> everything for you ... have some compassion for us."
>>>
>>> Shuttered truck stops, restrooms make life on the road challenging for
>>> long-haul drivers
>>> How truckers are protecting themselves themselves in the COVID-19 pandemic
>>> In many ways, truckers are keeping the economy moving, Uvanile-Hesch
>>> said, and at some point the drivers may say "enough is enough."
>>>
>>> "What are you going to do when you go to your store and the shelves are
>>> starting to be empty? Because within three days, that's all it would
>>> take if these trucks stopped moving."
>>
>> 2 Chronicles 7:14
>>
>> In the interim, I am simply wonderfully hungry (
>> http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and hope you, Michael, also have a
>> healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/B3kOVmeZ-38/m/kURk8DD7CgAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 19, 2021, 3:40:21 PM1/19/21
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@oginaz wrote:

> That was a pretty idiotic comment

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @oginaz , I am simply wonderfully hungry and hope you, Og,
> and others reading my comment at the top, also have a healthy
> appetite too. So how are you ?

@oginaz wrote:

> @HeartDoc Andrew I’m doing well thanks. I just ate a little sandwich
> so I’m not too hungry

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @oginaz, taking your "doing well" to mean "yes,
> you have a healthy appetite," I, as a cardiologist, share with you,
> Og, that it's wonderful knowing through our hunger that
> we're both not having a heart attack (aka myocardial infarction)
> at the moment in accordance with pure logic {{healthy=wonderful &
> appetite=hunger}} and advise that you try to write that you're
> "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that you are:
> So now how are you ?

@oginaz wrote:

(nothing for 60 minutes)

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @oginaz, your not being able to write that you're "wonderfully hungry"
> when greeted here means, Og, you're #StatCOVID19Test *positive*
> indicating that it's possible you're unwittingly contagious
> (i.e. pre-symptomatic) needing to call your doctor & to self-quarantine
> per CDC guidelines.

Source:
https://bit.ly/Positive011921

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 19, 2021, 8:38:44 PM1/19/21
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@George Carlin wrote:

> Stfu China bot

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @George Carlin , I am simply wonderfully hungry and hope you, George,
> and others reading my comment at the top, also have a healthy
> appetite too. So how are you ?

@George Carlin wrote:

> @HeartDoc Andrew it’s ok I get it..

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @George Carlin, taking your "ok" to mean "yes,
> you have a healthy appetite," I, as a cardiologist, share with you,
> George, that it's wonderful knowing through our hunger that
> we're both not having a heart attack (aka myocardial infarction)
> at the moment in accordance with pure logic {{healthy=wonderful &
> appetite=hunger}} and advise that you try to write that you're
> "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that you are:
> So now how are you ?

@George Carlin wrote:

(nothing meaningful for 3 hours)

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @George Carlin, your not being able to write that you're "wonderfully hungry"
> when greeted here means, George, you're #StatCOVID19Test *positive*
> indicating that it's possible you're unwittingly contagious
> (i.e. pre-symptomatic) needing to call your doctor & to self-quarantine
> per CDC guidelines.

Source:
https://bit.ly/Positive011921b

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 20, 2021, 3:53:43 PM1/20/21
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@Rob Edelman wrote:

> (link snipped)

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Rob Edelman , I am simply wonderfully hungry and hope you, Rob,
> and others reading my comment at the top, also have a healthy
> appetite too. So how are you ?

@Rob Edelman wrote:

> @HeartDoc Andrew sitting back in my quiet country
> and watching all you idiots

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Rob Edelman, taking your "sitting back" to mean "yes,
> you have a healthy appetite," I, as a cardiologist, share with you,
> Rob, that it's wonderful knowing through our hunger that
> we're both not having a heart attack (aka myocardial infarction)
> at the moment in accordance with pure logic {{healthy=wonderful &
> appetite=hunger}} and advise that you try to write that you're
> "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that you are:
> So now how are you ?

@Rob Edelman wrote:

(nothing meaningful for 18 hours)

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Rob Edelman, your not being able to write that you're "wonderfully hungry"
> when greeted here means, Rob, you're #StatCOVID19Test *positive*
> indicating that it's possible you're unwittingly contagious
> (i.e. pre-symptomatic) needing to call your doctor & to self-quarantine
> per CDC guidelines.

Source:
https://bit.ly/Positive012021

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 21, 2021, 12:15:05 PM1/21/21
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MichaelE wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MichaelE wrote:
>>
>>> http://outline.com/AgwNES
>>>
>>>
>>> Did shutting down outdoor dining contribute to California's COVID-19 surge?
>>> ERIC TING JANUARY 20, 2021
>>> A pair of diners enjoy their meal at Wayfare Tavern in its outdoor space
>>> in October 2020. On Dec. 6, San Francisco shut down outdoor dining once
>>> again.Blair Heagerty / SFGATE
>>> “If we have people and give them an outlet for entertainment in the
>>> restaurant space, in the bar space, we have much more of an opportunity,
>>> in my view, to be able to regulate and control that environment,”
>>> Lightfoot said. “People are engaging in risky behavior that is not only
>>> putting themselves at risk, but putting their families, their co-workers
>>> and other ones at risk. Let’s bring it out of the shadows."
>>>
>>> Lightfoot is specifically talking about reopening indoor dining — an
>>> activity that has been directly linked to increased COVID-19
>>> transmission. There has been no such linkage between outdoor dining and
>>> COVID-19 transmission, but California banned the activity in most of the
>>> state in early December, despite being one of the few states with a
>>> winter climate that would support it.
>>>
>>> Despite the ban, California has had one of the worst winter COVID-19
>>> surges in the country, which begs the following question: Is it possible
>>> that shutting down outdoor dining made the state's surge even worse?
>>>
>>> Dr. Monica Gandhi, an infectious disease expert at UCSF, believes it's
>>> highly likely.
>>>
>>> "We won’t be able to know the exact percentage it drove, but I would say
>>> closing outdoor dining certainly did not help and likely hindered
>>> efforts to avoid a surge," she said. "It shut down in early December,
>>> and things did not get better from there; things actually got worse.
>>> Restrictions should be about understanding the human condition and
>>> keeping places that are safe open. Those of us who argue for a harm
>>> reduction approach have the same goal as the lockdownists: We want to
>>> reduce transmission, but we understand the human condition and the need
>>> to be with people."
>>>
>>> When announcing the new stay-at-home order, Gov. Gavin Newsom and
>>> California Secretary of Health and Human Services Dr. Mark Ghaly were
>>> repeatedly asked to show evidence that outdoor dining contributes to the
>>> surge of COVID-19. They provided no such evidence and said that the new
>>> business closures were about sending a message to minimize mixing.
>>>
>>> Californians apparently didn't get the memo. Gandhi, like many who live
>>> in the state, knows of several people in her social circles who
>>> continued to meet up despite the stay-at-home order, turning outdoor
>>> dining plans into much riskier at-home gatherings.
>>>
>>> "I do know that people were far less compliant with this last order,"
>>> she said. "The state had less of an understanding that people were going
>>> to gather, and not because they weren't worried, or because they didn’t
>>> believe in COVID, but they believed they had a knowledge base from the
>>> media about what keeps us safe. With outdoor dining closed, they said,
>>> 'Let’s go inside with masks and distancing.' Of course, not everyone
>>> stuck to their masks and distancing plans once they went inside. You
>>> obviously have to take your mask off to eat, and the virus spreads much
>>> more easily indoors."
>>>
>>> It will be difficult, if not impossible, to quantitatively determine how
>>> much of an impact banning outdoor dining had on the surge. But Gandhi
>>> believes that logic and overwhelming anecdotal evidence are enough to
>>> tell us it had a clear impact.
>>>
>>> Some saw this coming.
>>>
>>> "It actually seems these sorts of Draconian measures are pushing people
>>> into unsafe situations in private homes where safety guidelines cannot
>>> be guaranteed, enforced or even expected," Tony Granieri, owner of the
>>> Oakland restaurants Brotzeit Lokal and the now-shuttered Magpie, told
>>> SFGATE of the stay-at-home order in December.
>>>
>>> "We constantly hear that the spread is occurring through private parties
>>> and yet we small business owners, doing everything we can to uphold the
>>> health standards, are being forced to cut staff and close down without
>>> any evidence that we are contributing to the spread," added Sean
>>> Sullivan, owner of the Port Bar, the last LGBT bar still open in Oakland.
>>>
>>> Gandhi's "harm reduction" approach calls for recognizing that people are
>>> going to gather regardless of any decrees the state and counties might
>>> issue. In her view, officials should work to provide guidance on how to
>>> make activities as safe as possible.
>>>
>>> "At this point in the pandemic, people will gather because they're
>>> lonely," she said. "We should have instead figured out how to mitigate
>>> risk instead of giving people an absolute no."
>>
>> The only healthy way to stop the pandemic in San Francisco and
>> elsewhere is by rapidly ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) finding
>> out at any given moment, including even while on-line, who among us
>> are unwittingly contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in
>> order to http://bit.ly/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12) for them to call
>> their doctor and self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping
>> this pandemic. Thus, hoping for the best while preparing for the
>> worst-case scenario of the "UK variant mutations" **and** others like
>> the South African & "cluster-5 mink mutations" (read more via Google)
>> rendering current vaccines ineffective.
>
> How do we rapidly find out at any given moment if we are contagious?

As soon as we hear/see ourselves say/write that we're "wonderfully
hungry" when either greeting or being greeted, we're allowed to know
that we are not contagious because we are not infected by the COVID-19
coronavirus.

>> Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 )
>> and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/BxnbtIZKj4M/m/ZaCo_MDFCwAJ

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 21, 2021, 3:54:57 PM1/21/21
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@Creeper Deluxe wrote:

> (You're not as cool as you think you are)

(this reply later deleted by CD)

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Creeper Deluxe , I am simply wonderfully hungry and hope you, CD,
> and others reading my comment at the top, also have a healthy
> appetite too. So how are you ?

@Creeper Deluxe wrote:

> @HeartDoc Andrew I'm doing well. Thank you for asking.

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Creeper Deluxe, taking your "sitting back" to mean "yes,
> you have a healthy appetite," I, as a cardiologist, share with you,
> CD, that it's wonderful knowing through our hunger that
> we're both not having a heart attack (aka myocardial infarction)
> at the moment in accordance with pure logic {{healthy=wonderful &
> appetite=hunger}} and advise that you try to write that you're
> "wonderfully hungry" since we've established here that you are:
> So now how are you ?

@Creeper Deluxe wrote:

(multiple attempts to write "wonderfully hungry" over several hours)

HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> @Creeper Deluxe, your not being able to write that you're "wonderfully hungry"
> when greeted here means, CD, you're #StatCOVID19Test *positive*
> indicating that it's possible you're unwittingly contagious
> (i.e. pre-symptomatic) needing to call your doctor & to self-quarantine
> per CDC guidelines.

Source:
https://bit.ly/Positive012121

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