ANT "Diagnostic Criteria" - here for review and editing
Janna Hoskin
Atypical NeuroTypicality - Criteria
This diagnosis is typically discovered in later adolescence or
adulthood, often as the afflicted individuals spend time in online
communities populated by individuals with a diagnosis of Autism,
Asperger’s Disorder, or some other Pervasive Developmental Disorder.
Prognosis is dim, as these individuals have undoubtedly passed the age
at which intensive intervention is likely to be most helpful. They are
doomed to spend their lives midway between PDD and true NeuroTypicality,
unable to fully relate to those in either population.
This is largely diagnosed by the afflicted individuals and confirmed by
peers. No professional confirmation is required.
A. A total of four items from 1, 2, and 3, with at least two from 1 and
one each from 2 and 3.
1. Qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested
by at least two of the following:
a. Impairment in the use or recognition of non-verbal
behaviours. Does not have to be marked or adversely
impact quality of life to be considered present.
b. Differences in interpersonal relationships that are
subtly different in overall nature from those of
peers.
c. Content to spend time alone, more than most peers.
d. Differences in displaying or understanding emotions
(those of others as well as one’s own) that are
evident in interpersonal relationships.
2. Qualitative impairment in communication as manifested by at
least one of the following:
a. Difficulty communicating effectively through the use
of spoken words. This can be an internal (spoken
language feels difficult but does not sound difficult
to the casual observer) or external (spoken language
is not expressed in an easy manner) difficulty. This
difficulty may be evidenced during a time of high
stress or it may be experienced at all times.
b. Communication sometimes or often misinterpreted by
others, or high impulsivity of speech results in hurt
feelings where none was intended. This is often also
a result of speaking one’s mind without realizing
that others do not follow one’s train of thought.
c. Spoken and written language can vary from highly
formal to extremely casual. May be perseverative on
topics of high interest. Obsessions can trigger
emotional outbursts.
d. May have extremely rich inner fantasy life that is
not expressed outwardly in a manner recognized by
peers.
3. Restricted, repetitive, and stereotyped patterns of
behaviour, interests, and activities, as manifested by at
least one of the following:
a. Preoccupation with one or more topics of interest
that is extreme to the point of being considered
perseverative or obsessive.
b. Has developed routines and/or rituals that do not
interfere with daily life but are qualitatively
different from those used by peers.
c. “Stimmy” behaviours are in obvious evidence, ranging
from visual stimulation to tactile. These behaviours
do not typically interfere with activities of daily
living.
d. Some evidence of overload, meltdown, and shutdown
occurs at infrequent intervals. This occurs
generally due to a denial of sensory and
interpersonal requirements.
B. There is no clinically significant impairment in social,
occupational, or other important areas of functioning. However, the
afflicted individual may recognize areas of functioning that require
much improvement in order to live a more full life.
C. Age of onset unknown, as many people have not realized that they
qualify for this diagnosis until they have or encounter a child with
a Pervasive Developmental Disorder. The diagnosis is confirmed when
the individual in question begins to spend time with adults who have
either a PDD or ANT diagnosis.
D. The differences, as documented, are not better accounted for by a PDD
diagnosis, and the individual has not been diagnosed with another
disorder such as ADHD or Schizophrenia.
Respectfully Submitted,
-Janna
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Janna Hoskin
> On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 18:13:34 -0700, Janna Hoskin <treat...@shaw.ca>
> wrote:
>
>
>>D. The differences, as documented, are not better accounted for by a PDD
>> diagnosis, and the individual has not been diagnosed with another
>> disorder such as ADHD or Schizophrenia.
>>
>
>
> maybe even is there potential to have both? Maybe something along the
> lines of the symptoms are not better covered by ADHD of Sz....
>
Revised point D...
D. The differences, as documented, are not better accounted for by a PDD
diagnosis or another disorder such as ADHD or Schizophrenia. It may
be possible to have a dual diagnosis of ANT and ADHD or
Schizophrenia, but the diagnostic criteria excludes the possibility
of a dual diagnosis of ANT and a PDD.
Rowe Rickenbacker
Time to get out the red pen! ;-)
> Atypical NeuroTypicality - Criteria
>
> They are
> doomed to spend their lives midway between PDD and true NeuroTypicality,
> unable to fully relate to those in either population.
I think "doomed" is a bit harsh :-P
> A. A total of four items from 1, 2, and 3, with at least two from 1 and
> one each from 2 and 3.
> 1. Qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested
> by at least two of the following:
> a. Impairment in the use or recognition of non-verbal
> behaviours. Does not have to be marked or adversely
> impact quality of life to be considered present.
I like that wording.
> b. Differences in interpersonal relationships that are
> subtly different in overall nature from those of
> peers.
Hm. Care to expand on that a little? :)
> 2. Qualitative impairment in communication as manifested by at
> least one of the following:
> a. Difficulty communicating effectively through the use
> of spoken words. This can be an internal (spoken
> language feels difficult but does not sound difficult
> to the casual observer) or external (spoken language
> is not expressed in an easy manner) difficulty. This
> difficulty may be evidenced during a time of high
> stress or it may be experienced at all times.
I like that one, especially the "internal" bit.
> b. Communication sometimes or often misinterpreted by
> others, or high impulsivity of speech results in hurt
> feelings where none was intended. This is often also
> a result of speaking one’s mind without realizing
> that others do not follow one’s train of thought.
"Hurt feelings" doesn't sound right, but I'm not sure what could
go in it's place. Could mention, perhaps, the use of inappropriate
language or personal details (??) though I guess that's also
kind of related to this one too...
> c. Spoken and written language can vary from highly
> formal to extremely casual. May be perseverative on
> topics of high interest. Obsessions can trigger
> emotional outbursts.
> d. May have extremely rich inner fantasy life that is
> not expressed outwardly in a manner recognized by
> peers.
Yay!
> 3. Restricted, repetitive, and stereotyped patterns of
> behaviour, interests, and activities, as manifested by at
> least one of the following:
> a. Preoccupation with one or more topics of interest
> that is extreme to the point of being considered
> perseverative or obsessive.
Good.
> b. Has developed routines and/or rituals that do not
> interfere with daily life but are qualitatively
> different from those used by peers.
Maybe more emphasis on unusualness of behaviors?
(or rigidity of keeping to the routines/behaviors?)
> c. “Stimmy” behaviours are in obvious evidence, ranging
> from visual stimulation to tactile. These behaviours
> do not typically interfere with activities of daily
> living.
Stimmy should be explained (for the benefit of those parents
and professionals that do not understand the idea behind it)
> d. Some evidence of overload, meltdown, and shutdown
> occurs at infrequent intervals. This occurs
> generally due to a denial of sensory and
> interpersonal requirements.
Yep - this is fine :)
> B. There is no clinically significant impairment in social,
> occupational, or other important areas of functioning. However, the
> afflicted individual may recognize areas of functioning that require
> much improvement in order to live a more full life.
Yes, though I think "full life" should be more "social" or, at least,
make it sound more like "normal life" than "happy life".
> C. Age of onset unknown, as many people have not realized that they
> qualify for this diagnosis until they have or encounter a child with
> a Pervasive Developmental Disorder. The diagnosis is confirmed when
> the individual in question begins to spend time with adults who have
> either a PDD or ANT diagnosis.
Don't like the sound of "have or encounter" but it's probably fine.
The diagnosis could do with looking *a bit* more professional
(ie: not sounding like it happens just because the person in
question spends time with PDD adults... even if it is true!)
> Respectfully Submitted,
Respectfully Editted, :)
Rowe
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> Revised point D...
>
> D. The differences, as documented, are not better accounted for by a PDD
> diagnosis or another disorder such as ADHD or Schizophrenia. It may
> be possible to have a dual diagnosis of ANT and ADHD or
> Schizophrenia, but the diagnostic criteria excludes the possibility
> of a dual diagnosis of ANT and a PDD.
"a PDD diagnosis excludes the possibility
of a dual diagnosis with ANT"?
Sorry... it just looks like having an ANT diagnosis
means you can't then get a PDD diagnosis.
Rowe Rickenbacker
> Janna Hoskin wrote:
>
>> D. The differences, as documented, are not better accounted for by
>> a PDD diagnosis or another disorder such as ADHD or Schizophrenia.
>
> Thinking about it... technically, if someone has ADHD, would they
> still qualify for the NT part of the label?
It's better than AADHD... the acronym's long enough already!
(not to mention sounding like a vehicle recovery service
combined with a dentistry service or something...)
> maybe they can be neuro-atypical
NAT? :)
Janna Hoskin
> Janna Hoskin wrote:
>
>> Revised point D...
>>
>> D. The differences, as documented, are not better accounted for by a PDD
>> diagnosis or another disorder such as ADHD or Schizophrenia. It may
>> be possible to have a dual diagnosis of ANT and ADHD or
>> Schizophrenia, but the diagnostic criteria excludes the possibility
>> of a dual diagnosis of ANT and a PDD.
>
>
> "a PDD diagnosis excludes the possibility
> of a dual diagnosis with ANT"?
>
> Sorry... it just looks like having an ANT diagnosis
> means you can't then get a PDD diagnosis.
>
> Rowe
Another attempt at point D...
D. The differences, as documented, are not better accounted for by a PDD
diagnosis or another disorder such as ADHD or Schizophrenia. It may
be possible to have a dual diagnosis of ANT and ADHD or
Schizophrenia, but the PDD diagnostic criteria excludes the
possibility of a dual diagnosis with ANT.
Wondering if there should be something there about how the diagnosis of
ANT could well be the stepping-stone some people need in order to decide
to get assessed for PDD, ADHD, etc.? And then if there is no other dx
made, stick with ANT.
Something like that?
Janna Hoskin
> Janna Hoskin wrote:
>
> Time to get out the red pen! ;-)
>
>> Atypical NeuroTypicality - Criteria
>>
>> They are doomed to spend their lives midway between PDD and true
>> NeuroTypicality, unable to fully relate to those in either population.
>
> I think "doomed" is a bit harsh :-P
That's a spoof of sorts, on the ridiculousness of various camps within
the autism subculture. Care to supply a rewrite of that sentence? ;)
>> A. A total of four items from 1, 2, and 3, with at least two from 1 and
>> one each from 2 and 3.
>> 1. Qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested
>> by at least two of the following:
>> a. Impairment in the use or recognition of non-verbal
>> behaviours. Does not have to be marked or adversely
>> impact quality of life to be considered present.
>
> I like that wording.
Thanks. :)
>> b. Differences in interpersonal relationships that are
>> subtly different in overall nature from those of
>> peers.
>
> Hm. Care to expand on that a little? :)
Edited 1.b.
b. Differences in interpersonal relationships that are
subtly different in overall nature from those of
peers. This could be evidenced by feelings of
alone-ness or being separate from those one is close
to, or by a lack of close friend relationships that
are based on real-life interactions.
>> 2. Qualitative impairment in communication as manifested by at
>> least one of the following:
>> a. Difficulty communicating effectively through the use
>> of spoken words. This can be an internal (spoken
>> language feels difficult but does not sound difficult
>> to the casual observer) or external (spoken language
>> is not expressed in an easy manner) difficulty. This
>> difficulty may be evidenced during a time of high
>> stress or it may be experienced at all times.
>
> I like that one, especially the "internal" bit.
Thanks. I thought that bit was extremely important. I, personally,
have the external difficulty when faced with stressful and/or emotional
situations, but generally it's the internal I'm faced with in everyday life.
>> b. Communication sometimes or often misinterpreted by
>> others, or high impulsivity of speech results in hurt
>> feelings where none was intended. This is often also
>> a result of speaking one’s mind without realizing
>> that others do not follow one’s train of thought.
>
> "Hurt feelings" doesn't sound right, but I'm not sure what could
> go in its place. Could mention, perhaps, the use of inappropriate
> language or personal details (??) though I guess that's also
> kind of related to this one too...
Edited 2.b.
b. Communication sometimes or often misinterpreted by
others. This often occurs due to poor Theory of Mind
– the individual does not realize that others cannot
follow an internal train of thought, and often is
unable to “read between the lines” when in
conversation with another person. Communication may
consist of inappropriate personal comments and
criticisms.
>> c. Spoken and written language can vary from highly
>> formal to extremely casual. May be perseverative on
>> topics of high interest. Obsessions can trigger
>> emotional outbursts.
>> d. May have extremely rich inner fantasy life that is
>> not expressed outwardly in a manner recognized by
>> peers.
>
> Yay!
LOL
>> 3. Restricted, repetitive, and stereotyped patterns of
>> behaviour, interests, and activities, as manifested by at
>> least one of the following:
>> a. Preoccupation with one or more topics of interest
>> that is extreme to the point of being considered
>> perseverative or obsessive.
>
> Good.
Well, you know. Mine is autism.
>> b. Has developed routines and/or rituals that do not
>> interfere with daily life but are qualitatively
>> different from those used by peers.
>
> Maybe more emphasis on unusualness of behaviors?
> (or rigidity of keeping to the routines/behaviors?)
Hrm... well, I left out the rigidity because it's not necessary for an
ANT to ALWAYS adhere to the routines and rituals. I *usually* do
certain things in a particular manner, but it doesn't cause me great
distress to do them in a different way unless I am on my way to
overload. I thought, too, that 'qualitatively different' made it clear
that these are unusual behaviours?
>> c. “Stimmy” behaviours are in obvious evidence, ranging
>> from visual stimulation to tactile. These behaviours
>> do not typically interfere with activities of daily
>> living.
>
> Stimmy should be explained (for the benefit of those parents
> and professionals that do not understand the idea behind it)
Edited 3.c.
c. Self-stimulatory behaviours are in obvious evidence,
ranging from visual stimulation (staring at lights,
squinting) to tactile (constant touching of certain
textures, distinct preference for certain clothing
due to texture). These behaviours do not typically
interfere with activities of daily living.
>> d. Some evidence of overload, meltdown, and shutdown
>> occurs at infrequent intervals. This occurs
>> generally due to a denial of sensory and
>> interpersonal requirements.
>
> Yep - this is fine :)
:)
>> B. There is no clinically significant impairment in social,
>> occupational, or other important areas of functioning. However, the
>> afflicted individual may recognize areas of functioning that require
>> much improvement in order to live a more full life.
>
> Yes, though I think "full life" should be more "social" or, at least,
> make it sound more like "normal life" than "happy life".
Edited point B.
B. There is no clinically significant impairment in social,
occupational, or other important areas of functioning. However, the
afflicted individual may recognize areas of functioning that require
much improvement in order to live a more typical life.
>> C. Age of onset unknown, as many people have not realized that they
>> qualify for this diagnosis until they have or encounter a child with
>> a Pervasive Developmental Disorder. The diagnosis is confirmed when
>> the individual in question begins to spend time with adults who have
>> either a PDD or ANT diagnosis.
>
> Don't like the sound of "have or encounter" but it's probably fine.
> The diagnosis could do with looking *a bit* more professional
> (ie: not sounding like it happens just because the person in
> question spends time with PDD adults... even if it is true!)
Could just cut out the 'have or' so that it's just "...until they
encounter a child..." - what do you think?
Suggestions for fixing up the diagnosis procedure very much welcome! :)
Rowe Rickenbacker
> Another attempt at point D...
>
> D. The differences, as documented, are not better accounted for by
> a PDD diagnosis or another disorder such as ADHD or Schizophrenia.
> It may be possible to have a dual diagnosis of ANT and ADHD or
> Schizophrenia, but the PDD diagnostic criteria excludes the
> possibility of a dual diagnosis with ANT.
Perfect.
> Wondering if there should be something there about how the diagnosis
> of ANT could well be the stepping-stone some people need in order to
> decide to get assessed for PDD, ADHD, etc.? And then if there is no
> other dx made, stick with ANT.
Hmm... ANT could be a stepping stone to AS, maybe, but
I'm sure an actually *P*DD would come before diagnosis
of ANT, because of the seriousnes of the case :)
Janna Hoskin
> Janna Hoskin wrote:
>
>> Another attempt at point D...
>>
>> D. The differences, as documented, are not better accounted for by
>> a PDD diagnosis or another disorder such as ADHD or Schizophrenia.
>> It may be possible to have a dual diagnosis of ANT and ADHD or
>> Schizophrenia, but the PDD diagnostic criteria excludes the
>> possibility of a dual diagnosis with ANT.
>
>
> Perfect.
>
>> Wondering if there should be something there about how the diagnosis
>> of ANT could well be the stepping-stone some people need in order to
>> decide to get assessed for PDD, ADHD, etc.? And then if there is no
>> other dx made, stick with ANT.
>
>
> Hmm... ANT could be a stepping stone to AS, maybe, but
> I'm sure an actually *P*DD would come before diagnosis
> of ANT, because of the seriousnes of the case :)
>
> Rowe
AS is a PDD, though. Hence the question.
Rowe Rickenbacker
> Rowe Rickenbacker wrote:
>
>> Janna Hoskin wrote:
>>
>>> Wondering if there should be something there about how the
>>> diagnosis of ANT could well be the stepping-stone some people
>>> need in order to decide to get assessed for PDD, ADHD, etc.? And
>>> then if there is no other dx made, stick with ANT.
>>
>> Hmm... ANT could be a stepping stone to AS, maybe, but I'm sure an
>> actually *P*DD would come before diagnosis of ANT, because of the
>> seriousnes of the case :)
>
> AS is a PDD, though. Hence the question.
Yeah, but I meant, if it's obviously "pervasive",
then I think an ANT diagnosis should be completely
skipped (in favor of the harder stuff).
Janna Hoskin
> Janna Hoskin wrote:
>
>> Rowe Rickenbacker wrote:
>>
>>> Janna Hoskin wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wondering if there should be something there about how the
>>>> diagnosis of ANT could well be the stepping-stone some people
>>>> need in order to decide to get assessed for PDD, ADHD, etc.? And
>>>> then if there is no other dx made, stick with ANT.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hmm... ANT could be a stepping stone to AS, maybe, but I'm sure an
>>> actually *P*DD would come before diagnosis of ANT, because of the
>>> seriousnes of the case :)
>>
>>
>> AS is a PDD, though. Hence the question.
>
>
> Yeah, but I meant, if it's obviously "pervasive",
> then I think an ANT diagnosis should be completely
> skipped (in favor of the harder stuff).
>
> Rowe
So... what's the verdict on that point, then?
Put in something about ANT being a possible preliminary dx to ADHD or
very mild PDD - Shadow Syndrome - or leave it out?
Molybdenum
> Yeah, but I meant, if it's obviously "pervasive",
> then I think an ANT diagnosis should be completely
> skipped (in favor of the harder stuff).
You know what they say about soft diagnoses...
Monica
Molybdenum
> Rowe Rickenbacker wrote:
>
>> Janna Hoskin wrote:
>>> C. Age of onset unknown, as many people have not realized that they
>>> qualify for this diagnosis until they have or encounter a child with
>>> a Pervasive Developmental Disorder. The diagnosis is confirmed when
>>> the individual in question begins to spend time with adults who have
>>> either a PDD or ANT diagnosis.
>>
>>
>> Don't like the sound of "have or encounter" but it's probably fine.
>> The diagnosis could do with looking *a bit* more professional
>> (ie: not sounding like it happens just because the person in
>> question spends time with PDD adults... even if it is true!)
>
>
> Could just cut out the 'have or' so that it's just "...until they
> encounter a child..." - what do you think?
I don't think that elucidates the "age of onset" point :) I, for one,
encountered children at a very early age.
You could replace "or encounter" with "spawned" :)
>
> Suggestions for fixing up the diagnosis procedure very much welcome! :)
Well, we'll need a Centre, and probably some sort of National
Organization to direct people to it.
Monica
Janna Hoskin
>>>> qualify for this diagnosis until they have or encounter a child with
>>>> a Pervasive Developmental Disorder. The diagnosis is confirmed when
>>>> the individual in question begins to spend time with adults who have
>>>> either a PDD or ANT diagnosis.
>>>
>>> Don't like the sound of "have or encounter" but it's probably fine.
>>> The diagnosis could do with looking *a bit* more professional
>>> (ie: not sounding like it happens just because the person in
>>> question spends time with PDD adults... even if it is true!)
>>
>> Could just cut out the 'have or' so that it's just "...until they
>> encounter a child..." - what do you think?
>
> I don't think that elucidates the "age of onset" point :) I, for one,
> encountered children at a very early age.
>
> You could replace "or encounter" with "spawned" :)
Nonono, it still says that it's a child with a PDD! It's not that
common to encounter (well, it's more common now than it was) to
encounter kids who have PDD prior to adulthood. Which is how we end up
with the ANT dx.
>> Suggestions for fixing up the diagnosis procedure very much welcome! :)
>
> Well, we'll need a Centre, and probably some sort of National
> Organization to direct people to it.
Okay, um, who's going to be the head of this Centre? And what should we
call it? What should we call the National Organization?
Shena Delian O'Brien
>
> D. The differences, as documented, are not better accounted for by a PDD
> diagnosis, and the individual has not been diagnosed with another
> disorder such as ADHD or Schizophrenia.
You should take a look at avoidant personality disorder which is a twist
on social phobia. It is one of the disorders they recommend ruling out
before a diagnosis of asperger's or asd is diagnosed in older people.
Janna Hoskin
I know lots about AvPD... should we include that as one of the dx's to
rule out as well?
ANT isn't quite the same as AvPD, as it's not related to avoiding social
situations or people or anything like that.
-Janna (has thought she had AvPD, AS, and now ADD)
Shena Delian O'Brien
>
> I know lots about AvPD... should we include that as one of the dx's to
> rule out as well?
I would list it as "may have been diagnosed as". I can easily see
avoidant tendencies being developed due to fear of social situations...
if you have trouble dealing with people socially you may end up
"fearing" it, of course.
(I put "fearing" in quotes because a phobia is usually so deeply rooted
it doesn't quite seem like fear.)
I tend to obsess over what other people are thinking & how to deal with
people. (What so and so will think when X happens.) This is so I can
know what to expect in most social situations and prepare myself, or try
to get the desired result. I wouldn't know whether this is due to being
ANT and having to work extra hard to make up for a deficit, or being
AvPD and being too sensitive to deal with criticism.
Janna Hoskin
ANTI – The ANT Institute
ANTI is pleased to provide the general public with access to the
recently articulated diagnostic criteria for Atypical NeuroTypicality.
This diagnosis may be performed without the input of a professional, but
in order to be certain that it is not being abused, the staff here at
ANTI strongly advise possible ANTs to write with a breakdown of how the
criteria fits. If ANTI staff are concerned that your signs and symptoms
may indicate the need for further professional evaluation, we will
direct you to services in your area as we are able.
Atypical NeuroTypicality - Criteria
This diagnosis is typically discovered in later adolescence or
adulthood, often as the afflicted individuals spend time in online
communities populated by individuals with a diagnosis of Autism,
Asperger’s Disorder, or some other Pervasive Developmental Disorder.
Prognosis is dim, as these individuals have undoubtedly passed the age
at which intensive intervention is likely to be most helpful. They are
doomed to spend their lives midway between PDD and true NeuroTypicality,
unable to fully relate to those in either population.
A. A total of four items from 1, 2, and 3, with at least two from 1 and
one each from 2 and 3.
1. Qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested
by at least two of the following:
a. Impairment in the use or recognition of non-verbal
behaviours. Does not have to be marked or adversely
impact quality of life to be considered present.
b. Differences in interpersonal relationships that are
subtly different in overall nature from those of
peers. This could be evidenced by feelings of
alone-ness or being separate from those one is close
to, or by a lack of close friend relationships that
are based on real-life interactions.
c. Content to spend time alone, more than most peers.
d. Differences in displaying or understanding emotions
(those of others as well as one’s own) that are
evident in interpersonal relationships.
2. Qualitative impairment in communication as manifested by at
least one of the following:
a. Difficulty communicating effectively through the use
of spoken words. This can be an internal (spoken
language feels difficult but does not sound difficult
to the casual observer) or external (spoken language
is not expressed in an easy manner) difficulty. This
difficulty may be evidenced during a time of high
stress or it may be experienced at all times.
b. Communication sometimes or often misinterpreted by
others. This often occurs due to poor Theory of Mind
– the individual does not realize that others cannot
follow an internal train of thought, and often is
unable to “read between the lines” when in
conversation with another person. Communication may
consist of inappropriate personal comments and
criticisms.
c. Spoken and written language can vary from highly
formal to extremely casual. May be perseverative on
topics of high interest. Obsessions can trigger
emotional outbursts.
d. May have extremely rich inner fantasy life that is
not expressed outwardly in a manner recognized by
peers.
3. Restricted, repetitive, and stereotyped patterns of
behaviour, interests, and activities, as manifested by at
least one of the following:
a. Preoccupation with one or more topics of interest
that is extreme to the point of being considered
perseverative or obsessive.
b. Has developed routines and/or rituals that do not
interfere with daily life but are qualitatively
different from those used by peers.
c. Self-stimulatory behaviours are in obvious evidence,
ranging from visual stimulation (staring at lights,
squinting) to tactile (constant touching of certain
textures, distinct preference for certain clothing
due to texture). These behaviours do not typically
interfere with activities of daily living.
d. Some evidence of overload, meltdown, and shutdown
occurs at infrequent intervals. This occurs
generally due to a denial of sensory and
interpersonal requirements.
B. There is no clinically significant impairment in social,
occupational, or other important areas of functioning. However, the
afflicted individual may recognize areas of functioning that require
much improvement in order to live a more typical life.
C. Age of onset unknown, as many people have not realized that they
qualify for this diagnosis until they have or encounter a child with
a Pervasive Developmental Disorder. The diagnosis is confirmed when
the individual in question begins to spend time with adults who have
either a PDD or ANT diagnosis.
D. The differences, as documented, are not better accounted for by a PDD
diagnosis or a medical disorder such as ADHD or Schizophrenia. If
professional assessment later reveals that a formal diagnosis of this
kind is necessary, the initial diagnosis of ANT must be repealed.
**Please note: A previous diagnosis of Avoidant Personality Disorder
does not preclude the possibility of a diagnosis of ANT.
Please note: Atypical NeuroTypicality is not a medically recognized
condition. This diagnosis cannot be used to obtain support services of
any kind (and, indeed, this should not be attempted in any way
whatsoever). The ANT Institute is a collective of individuals who are
either self-diagnosed with ANT or professionally diagnosed with a PDD.
The diagnostic certificate is not a legal medical document and is meant
to be a fun way of celebrating minor differences among people.
Well?
-Janna
Molybdenum
>> I don't think that elucidates the "age of onset" point :) I, for one,
>> encountered children at a very early age.
>>
>> You could replace "or encounter" with "spawned" :)
>
>
> Nonono, it still says that it's a child with a PDD! It's not that
> common to encounter (well, it's more common now than it was) to
> encounter kids who have PDD prior to adulthood.
I imagine it's actually quite common to encounter such children at any
stage of one's life...what's not common is *knowing* that the child has
a PDD.
Maybe you could speak of "exposure to PDDs" but that makes it sound
contagious...
What you're really talking about is at what point in life a person
typically becomes aware of PDDs -- which is often when their own child
is diagnosed.
I don't have any great ideas about how to better express it. I was just
being frivolous before...but you knew that, didn't you :)
>>> Suggestions for fixing up the diagnosis procedure very much welcome! :)
>>
>>
>> Well, we'll need a Centre, and probably some sort of National
>> Organization to direct people to it.
>
>
> Okay, um, who's going to be the head of this Centre?
The Queen ANT, I guess...
Well, jeez Janna! *You* wrote the criteria, who's more qualified???
> And what should we
> call it? What should we call the National Organization?
Ants Across America!
Er, Canada.
Canadant.
CANT!
PANTS!
Monica
um...getting a little carried away...
Janna Hoskin
> Janna Hoskin wrote:
>
>>> I don't think that elucidates the "age of onset" point :) I, for one,
>>> encountered children at a very early age.
>>>
>>> You could replace "or encounter" with "spawned" :)
>>
>> Nonono, it still says that it's a child with a PDD! It's not that
>> common to encounter (well, it's more common now than it was) to
>> encounter kids who have PDD prior to adulthood.
>
> I imagine it's actually quite common to encounter such children at any
> stage of one's life...what's not common is *knowing* that the child has
> a PDD.
>
> Maybe you could speak of "exposure to PDDs" but that makes it sound
> contagious...
>
> What you're really talking about is at what point in life a person
> typically becomes aware of PDDs -- which is often when their own child
> is diagnosed.
Yes, or they're like me and started working with kids and then began to
see a lot of similarities. How's this for a new version?
C. Age of onset unknown, as many people have not realized that they
qualify for this diagnosis until they begin to have regular contact with
a child who has a Pervasive Developmental Disorder (usually because the
child is their own or because the child is a student or client of some
sort). The diagnosis is confirmed when the individual in question
begins to spend time with adults who have either a PDD or ANT diagnosis.
> I don't have any great ideas about how to better express it. I was just
> being frivolous before...but you knew that, didn't you :)
Of course. :)
>>>> Suggestions for fixing up the diagnosis procedure very much
>>>> welcome! :)
>>>
>>> Well, we'll need a Centre, and probably some sort of National
>>> Organization to direct people to it.
>>
>> Okay, um, who's going to be the head of this Centre?
>
> The Queen ANT, I guess...
Who's the Queen ANT? I suggest we ask Rowe to appoint one, since he's
the one who likes to give people the title of Aunt. ;)
> Well, jeez Janna! *You* wrote the criteria, who's more qualified???
LOL
>> And what should we call it? What should we call the National
>> Organization?
>
> Ants Across America!
>
> Er, Canada.
>
> Canadant.
>
> CANT!
>
> PANTS!
What does PANTS stand for, and wouldn't it be funny to change it to
PANTIS? LOL
I think maybe it should be an International organization, so maybe ANTIS
would be okay - Atypical NeuroTypicality International Society?
Though if you can figure out what the P could stand for, I'd be
eternally grateful...
I want to start a Yahoo Group for this... just because it would be
hilarious...
> Monica
> um...getting a little carried away...
Really, I hadn't noticed... ;)
-Janna (enjoying every minute of this!)
Molybdenum
> What does PANTS stand for, and wouldn't it be funny to change it to
> PANTIS?
Place [for] Atypical Neuro-Typicals [to] Integrate [and] Socialize
Of course, you could also integrate, exchange, and socialize :)
Monica
Janna Hoskin
ROFLMAO
All in favour of PANTIES as the name for the organization to direct ANTs
to the ANTI, say Aye!
-Janna (already has some ideas for a logo for the organization...)
Molybdenum
> Molybdenum wrote:
>
>> Janna Hoskin wrote:
>>
>>> What does PANTS stand for, and wouldn't it be funny to change it to
>>> PANTIS?
>>
>>
>>
>> Place [for] Atypical Neuro-Typicals [to] Integrate [and] Socialize
>>
>> Of course, you could also integrate, exchange, and socialize :)
>
>
> ROFLMAO
>
> All in favour of PANTIES as the name for the organization to direct ANTs
> to the ANTI, say Aye!
Well, aye, bye!
I is, after all, da bye.
> -Janna (already has some ideas for a logo for the organization...)
I can just imagine...
Monica
I'se da bye!
Molybdenum
> Janna Hoskin wrote:
>>
>> ROFLMAO
>>
>> All in favour of PANTIES as the name for the organization to direct
>> ANTs to the ANTI, say Aye!
Hmmm, will we also have a sister organization PUNCLIES for the boys?
Monica
Going to bed *now*. Really.
Sarah
>
> D. The differences, as documented, are not better accounted for by a PDD
Or deafness in my case. I even had a hearing aid at one point which I
kept switched off which annoyed the specialist and my parents a lot. I
never did have a problem with my hearing but did refuse to acknowledge /
speak to people and lip read as seeing it was easier to process than
hearing it and seeing the person. Also it avoided eye contact.
Sarah
Rowe Rickenbacker
>>> C. Age of onset unknown, as many people have not realized that they
>>> qualify for this diagnosis until they have or encounter a child with
>>> a Pervasive Developmental Disorder. The diagnosis is confirmed when
>>> the individual in question begins to spend time with adults who have
>>> either a PDD or ANT diagnosis.
>>
>> Don't like the sound of "have or encounter" but it's probably fine.
>> The diagnosis could do with looking *a bit* more professional
>> (ie: not sounding like it happens just because the person in
>> question spends time with PDD adults... even if it is true!)
>
> Could just cut out the 'have or' so that it's just "...until they
> encounter a child..." - what do you think?
That sounds better :)
Rowe Rickenbacker
> Janna Hoskin wrote:
>
>> Suggestions for fixing up the diagnosis procedure very much welcome! :)
>
> Well, we'll need a Centre, and probably some sort of
> National Organization to direct people to it.
It's a shame it wont really exist... :(
Rowe
would love to be involved in a *real*, uh, thing...
Rowe Rickenbacker
>>> Suggestions for fixing up the diagnosis procedure very much
>>> welcome! :)
>>
>> Well, we'll need a Centre, and probably some sort of National
>> Organization to direct people to it.
>
> Okay, um, who's going to be the head of this Centre?
It can't be me because I'm not an ANT,
but I still want to be in there somewhere!
> And what should
> we call it? What should we call the National Organization?
NAS - National Atypical Society ;-)
Rowe
Rowe Rickenbacker
> Janna Hoskin wrote:
>
>> Okay, um, who's going to be the head of this Centre? And what
>> should we call it? What should we call the National Organization?
>
> ANTI - the ANT Institute ;-)
YES! Janna can be "The Woman from ANTI"
Rowe
remembers how freakin cool U.N.C.L.E was...
Rowe Rickenbacker
> Well?
I still think "doomed" is a bit harsh!
Apart from that, it's really good ;-)
Rowe
Rowe Rickenbacker
> Molybdenum wrote:
>
>> PANTS!
>
> What does PANTS stand for
Pervasive ANT Institute for Ecumenical Solidarity (?)
> Though if you can figure out what the P could stand for, I'd be
> eternally grateful...
:)
>> Monica um...getting a little carried away...
>
> Really, I hadn't noticed... ;)
>
> -Janna (enjoying every minute of this!)
Um...
Rowe
wondering if the enjoyment of this is in
any way related to the firemans costume...
Janna Hoskin
> Molybdenum wrote:
>
>> Janna Hoskin wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> ROFLMAO
>>>
>>> All in favour of PANTIES as the name for the organization to direct
>>> ANTs to the ANTI, say Aye!
>
>
> Hmmm, will we also have a sister organization PUNCLIES for the boys?
>
PUNCLIES?
Would it be a sister organization if it's for boys?
-Janna
Janna Hoskin
> Janna Hoskin wrote:
>
>> Molybdenum wrote:
>>
>>> PANTS!
>>
>>
>> What does PANTS stand for
>
>
> Pervasive ANT Institute for Ecumenical Solidarity (?)
Oooo
>
>> Though if you can figure out what the P could stand for, I'd be
>> eternally grateful...
>
>
> :)
>
>>> Monica um...getting a little carried away...
>>
>>
>> Really, I hadn't noticed... ;)
>>
>> -Janna (enjoying every minute of this!)
>
>
> Um...
>
> Rowe
> wondering if the enjoyment of this is in
> any way related to the firemans costume...
Especially with the mention of panties...
-Janna
Hylander
Janna Hoskin wrote:
> Rowe Rickenbacker wrote:
> > Janna Hoskin wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Atypical NeuroTypicality - Criteria
> >>
> >> They are doomed to spend their lives midway between PDD and true
> >> NeuroTypicality, unable to fully relate to those in either
population.
> >
>
> That's a spoof of sorts, on the ridiculousness of various camps
within
> the autism subculture. Care to supply a rewrite of that sentence?
;)
Hope you don't mind.
ANT-NOS
--------
1. Tends to avoid excessively demanding social environments but tends
towards smaller groups of individuals.
2. Tends to have interest in fun technological things but may or may
not be a technical person.
3. May bounce leg from time to time...especially when nervous. Has
other stims like biting fingernails (not always but typical), facial
ticks, tapping foot, tapping pencil.
4. Can relate to a lot of people with various difficulties socializing.
Typically not among the popular kids at school growing up. May have had
a few occasions where they felt popular.
5. Tends to be obese, at some risk for colon cancer and diabetes and
have problems with motivation and initiative.
6. Can on occasion see stars or light flashes. Often sensitive to
bright lights and loud noise. May have difficulty hearing deep voices.
Dislikes screeching noises like rubber balloon squeaks or chalkboard.
May dislike rough materials like wool.
7. Has discomfort speaking in front of large groups of people.
8. May have difficulty doing day to day tasks and might feel lazy and
bored frequently. May watch television or play games on a regular
basis.
9. May suffer disorientation in unfamiliar places.
10. Often aggressive behaviour when confronted. Can often have
misunderstandings.
11. May have poor concentration. Thoughts sometimes switch from context
to context. Happens frequently during study. May have average or
slightly below average grades although some do excel.
12. May eat pizza or beer on a regular basis. Often feeds at vending
machines and fast food.
13. Often seen in a college campus or computer lab.
14. Feels like they are a normal college student.
15. Frequently requires food and warmth.
16. Drinks water on a regular basis.
17. May often need to hold before urination or defecation.
18. Often likes things clean but can often tolerate a messy living
condition.
19. May not have typical manners. May burp, chew food with mouth open
and sometimes makes rude comments without completely understanding how
offensive they might appear.
20. If you are still reading this, you definitely have this condition
and are hereby diagnosed as being a very average, normal but likely
young person with access to usenet.
Janna Hoskin
> Janna Hoskin wrote:
>
>>Rowe Rickenbacker wrote:
>>
>>>Janna Hoskin wrote:
>>>
>>>Time to get out the red pen! ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>>Atypical NeuroTypicality - Criteria
>>>>
>>>>They are doomed to spend their lives midway between PDD and true
>>>>NeuroTypicality, unable to fully relate to those in either
>
> population.
>
>>>I think "doomed" is a bit harsh :-P
>>
>>That's a spoof of sorts, on the ridiculousness of various camps
>
> within
>
>>the autism subculture. Care to supply a rewrite of that sentence?
>
> ;)
>
>
> Hope you don't mind.
>
Heh. Nope.
I didn't read the whole thing, but my favourite was the last point.
Shall we add that to the criteria, everyone?
-Janna (heading to bed soon)
Rowe Rickenbacker
> Rowe Rickenbacker wrote:
>
>> Janna Hoskin wrote:
>>
>>> Molybdenum wrote:
>>>
>>>> PANTS!
>>>
>>> What does PANTS stand for
>>
>> Pervasive ANT Institute for Ecumenical Solidarity (?)
>
> Oooo
Note: I *DIDN'T* know that word before a quick visit to Mr Thesaurus.
>>>> Monica um...getting a little carried away...
>>>
>>> -Janna (enjoying every minute of this!)
>>
>> Rowe wondering if the enjoyment of this is in any way related to
>> the firemans costume...
>
> Especially with the mention of panties...
Red spandex panties?!
Rowe
really should just stop posting in this thread :-P