First Contact and fanon
mecu...@alumni.princeton.edu
thought that the first First Contact for Humans was being discovered by
Vulcans -- as the movie indeed showed. Where did this notion come from?
In Leslie Fish's "This Deadly Innocence" (on the Foresmutters Project
web site) she mentions almost in passing that Vulcans were discovered
by Humans, not visa versa. Is there a mention of a First Contact
situation in TOS screen canon? Did it come from a pro novel, or was it
fanon?
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Lori
Strangers from the Sky, Margaret Wander Bonano (I think that was the
author's name?) is a Pocket Books novel in which a Vulcan ship crash lands
in the ocean on a very different Earth than is portrayed in First Contact.
I seem to have vague memories of a mention of Vulcans being discovered by
humans, but don't recall if that was in the TOS episodes somewhere, or just
conjecture, or mentioned in another TOS novel...
Lori
The Evil J Winter
>It's my memory that when I saw the movie "First Contact" I already
>thought that the first First Contact for Humans was being discovered by
>Vulcans -- as the movie indeed showed. Where did this notion come from?
>In Leslie Fish's "This Deadly Innocence" (on the Foresmutters Project
>web site) she mentions almost in passing that Vulcans were discovered
>by Humans, not visa versa. Is there a mention of a First Contact
>situation in TOS screen canon? Did it come from a pro novel, or was it
>fanon?
The novel you're thinking of is "Strangers from the Sky," where Kirk, Spock,
Gary Mitchell, Lee Kelso, and Dr. Dehner (All from "Where No Man Has Gone
Before") got zapped back into the mid-21st century and stumbled into the
accidental first contact with Vulcans. What had happened was that a Vulcan
probe did not self-destruct properly, and two Vulcans fell to Earth, only to
wind up at the center of the biggest cover up since... well... Roswell.
In the end, the Vulcans were sent home in a sleeper ship intended to be a
follow up to the Alpha Centauri mission already under way. Earth was never
told, and the real first contact "accidentally" occurred a few years later when
a Vulcan ship sort of ran out of gas and was picked up by an Earth vessel.
Not quite the way "First Contact" did it, is it? Or is it? Lessee. WWIII's
over. Vulcans stumble onto Earth, and the Enterprise crew comes back in time
to help. And Cochrane's about to launch his first warp ship. OK, so the did a
rewrite. Who said Hollywood was capable of anything original?
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> Not quite the way "First Contact" did it, is it? Or is it? Lessee. WWIII's
> over. Vulcans stumble onto Earth, and the Enterprise crew comes back in time
> to help. And Cochrane's about to launch his first warp ship. OK, so the did a
> rewrite. Who said Hollywood was capable of anything original?
Sorry, I don't buy any of it unless someone kills his own grandmother.
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mecu...@alumni.princeton.edu
"Lori" <lp...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> I seem to have vague memories of a mention of Vulcans being
discovered by
> humans, but don't recall if that was in the TOS episodes somewhere,
or just
> conjecture, or mentioned in another TOS novel...
At one point McCoy does needle Spock with Vulcan having been
"conquered", but then later in "Immunity Syndrome" Spock says Vulcans
do not understand defeat. I actually have a theory to explain this, the
short version of which is: McCoy is wrong.
Mary Ellen
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Vulcans tend to erase what initiates weakness or shame...emotions, defeat...
The Evil J Winter
<jki...@accesscom.com> writes:
>Sorry, I don't buy any of it unless someone kills his own grandmother.
><eg>
How about if someone becomes their own great-grandfather, as Mitchell wondered
in "Strangers..."
Of course, were that true, we would have had to peel him off the ceiling.
(And why would you want to do granny? I don't care if granny is Elizabeth
Hurley. I am NOT from West Virginia. I mean, eewww!!! Margaret, what were
you thinking?)
The Evil J Winter
>I actually have a theory to explain this, the
>short version of which is: McCoy is wrong.
Which is a neat, clean way of getting around the ever-annoying "The script
writer was wrong." mess. <VBG>
Well, this is one case where you can say the character screwed up for the
writer, isn't it?
J. Juls
Strangers From the Sky, since SFtS was supposed to be a big secret, but I
thought it did say something about Zef, but who remembers?
Julie