Gillis on the radio....to be replayed @ 6 pm pacific team1040.
foamy
Pratt promoted this interview for the past week by saying... Gillis
on for the full hour and we'll take your calls. I would have bet
anything at the time that was bullshit, and of course it was. ZERO
calls. Only a few talk show hosts in history were / are able to check
their egos, and clearly Pratt and Taylor are aren't. They are exactly
like Good, when an important guest is on, only someone as important
as him is qualified to ask questions. The callers are morons, only
useful to fill the air during boring shit.
Anyhow, some things which Gillis said and implied of import. [ Most
of the following isn't verbatim, just the gyst baby, just the gyst ]:
-- IQ. He's going to place an emphasis on scouting smarter players
and not necessarily players who might on the surface look better
because of size etc. He referred to Pavel and others, and said the
common demoninator is how smart they played the game and
realizing what they had to do to thrive.
-- the capologist he hired is going to take all the financial interests off
the table for he and tamby. He'll handle everything money-wise from
budgets to contracts so they can concentrate on player issues.
-- there was far too much reliance on Luongo to carry the team.
-- doesn't believe you sit on anyone in their last year of their contract
who is an UFA the next [ hello twins ]. Suggested they have to be
dealt with early, extended or dealt, and not late as in rentals for a
dick draft pick.
-- the twins need someone to play with them.
-- his template for a team is at least 2 scoring lines, a tougher team than
we have, and up tempo and quick transition.
-- he's had a few talks with Luongo and says he's confident there's no
prob at all. He said Luongo expressed he wants to be here, he wants
to be a part of the team, likes the city etc., wants to win. But Gillis
also indicated that Lou's only under contract for 2 more years and
and he's cognizant of having to make hay while the sun shines. He's
not about to piss away a couple years, he's prepared to take risks, and
feels he has to be proactive and act quickly, right from the draft on.
-- different approach to player development [ hello smyl ].
-- Naslund, nothing much will happen until after the draft and any changes
he's made. If the environment is right for Naslund [ hello V ] to thrive,
he'll be here, if not he won't.
-- V, this is the real disappointment for me. He said he's not just going to
come in and blow out everyone, he wants to give them a chance to
come aboard. Sounds to me like he's going to let V stay. He repeated a
coach can only work with what he has been given, you can't play blah
blah if you don't have blah blah, but that's ingenuous and bullshit. V
could take any of the final 4 teams in this years playoffs and fuck 'em
up royally with his insane line juggling.
Overall I liked what he had to say, but pleeeeese not V.
Jim
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
Warren Hales
players, be a players GM and blame the capologist when it gets down to
brass tacks about the dough.
Overall I like the sounds of where we are headed. An exciting summer
ahead.
Warren
foamy
hsa.googlegroups.com>, Warren Hales <whales
@innovationmountain.com> wrote:
Yep, I'm looking forward to it. Aquilini says we can spend this much, Gillis
passes on we can spend this much, and Capman takes care of business.
The coach thing is the biggest concern I have. The day V is fired [ if only ]
is the day I can breathe easy.
Tighthead
> ............first my rant.
>
> Pratt promoted this interview for the past week by saying... Gillis
> on for the full hour and we'll take your calls. I would have bet
> anything at the time that was bullshit, and of course it was. ZERO
> calls. Only a few talk show hosts in history were / are able to check
> their egos, and clearly Pratt and Taylor are aren't. They are exactly
> like Good, when an important guest is on, only someone as important
> as him is qualified to ask questions. The callers are morons, only
> useful to fill the air during boring shit.
>
like to hear Gillis respond to guys who have found a way to trade
Bieksa and Sanford for Iginla though.
Dave Logan
> In article <102d7c01-2751-45e6-a289-798020a12071@w7g2000
> hsa.googlegroups.com>, Warren Hales <whales
> >players, be a players GM and blame the capologist when it gets down to
> >brass tacks about the dough.
> passes on we can spend this much, and Capman takes care of business.
>
apparently does know exactly how the CBA works. Lamoriello plays the
CBA like a violinist. So does Burke. One less obstacle for the GM
levering a better deal. And the "capologist" has to know every other
teams situation to seize a cap/CBA related opportunity.
V did get a lot out of his past teams. He also had to juggle lines
last season, especially after Morrison was injured. But I agree that
line juggling and defence first are probably a bias of his. Maybe the
Canucks do need a smarter coach to go with smarter players?
DAve
Scotty
That's a good point. Callers would probably ask a lot of questions that
Gillis isn't prepared to answer yet.
Scott
Scotty
It doesn't sound like he wants Linden back, but if V is staying, Linden
probably doesn't want to come back anyway. Hopefully, though, Gillis
will stock the team with with enough skilled players that we won't have
to be wondering why V is playing Cowan or Isbister ahead of Linden.
Scott
foamy
@l28g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, Dave Logan
<dlogan_...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>V did get a lot out of his past teams. He also had to juggle lines
>last season, especially after Morrison was injured. But I agree that
>line juggling and defence first are probably a bias of his.
Come on. He didn't juggle lines out of necessity, he did it out of his
friggin pathelogical obsession. The fifth shift of his first game with the
Canucks he was flippin' guys around.
The guy is an asshole with respect to this. He'll break up a good line,
and screw up all lines, to satisfy his sickness. The twins and Pyatt were
a good example. They were rocking, but oops, fuckhead decided to
to break 'em up to jump start Naslund, like he's what they needed on
the line, and as a result fucked up all lines.
The guy is a juggling prick who players hate to play for because they
have no idea from shift to shift who their linemates will be and never
get comfortable with their game.
foamy
>Tighthead wrote:
>> On May 5, 5:24 pm, bombe...@sulet.ten (foamy) wrote:
>>> ............first my rant.
>> Sometimes that decision is made by the guest, not the host. I would
>> like to hear Gillis respond to guys who have found a way to trade
>> Bieksa and Sanford for Iginla though.
>
>That's a good point. Callers would probably ask a lot of questions that
>Gillis isn't prepared to answer yet.
>
>Scott
I want to smack you guys upside the head to wake you up. You are
exhibiting the same elitist shit attitude the likes of Pratt and Taylor
use to justify not taking calls. Some goof asks a silly question or
proposes a silly trade, and that is used as justification for not taking
any calls and paints all the potential callers with the same brush.
Exactly the same shit as Nonis used to justify his own lack of action.
Ho, ho, ho, you think I can just phone up Pitt and get Crosby for a 5th
round pick ? Ho, ho, ho, have another donut you asshole.
Just in case people forget, the asshole hosts ask just as many stupid
questions and demonstrate their ignorance on an hourly basis.
The collective knowledge of the audience dwarfs what those two fucks,
or any hosts know, and only the most wise and humble recognize it.
Jack Webster was one of the greatest, and some of the classic calls he
took, could never be duplicated today because the current crop of ego
shitheads have their finger on the button the second they take the call.
I remember a call he took which under the snot fucks we are blessed with
today wouldn't have lasted 8 seconds. But Webster wasn't ego-threatened,
he was actually a real person, and it turned into a wonderfully funny
experience.
I think it was an elderly lady from the old country talking about Ivy Green
Road or something. Wonderful, and a sign of the times long gone.
foamy
>It doesn't sound like he wants Linden back, but if V is staying, Linden
>probably doesn't want to come back anyway. Hopefully, though, Gillis
>will stock the team with with enough skilled players that we won't have
>to be wondering why V is playing Cowan or Isbister ahead of Linden.
He said he really doesn't know Linden, or know what he's thinking.
He tried to contact him, but Trevor was on a flight to Maui. He said
there will always be a place in the game for a Linden, but it's his
experience is that guys who have had long careers in the game
seldom want to be involved in the game when they first get out of it.
Scotty
> In article <fvomc3$7fr$2...@aioe.org>, Scotty <L...@de.da> wrote:
>> Tighthead wrote:
>>> On May 5, 5:24 pm, bombe...@sulet.ten (foamy) wrote:
>>>> ............first my rant.
>
>>> Sometimes that decision is made by the guest, not the host. I would
>>> like to hear Gillis respond to guys who have found a way to trade
>>> Bieksa and Sanford for Iginla though.
>> That's a good point. Callers would probably ask a lot of questions that
>> Gillis isn't prepared to answer yet.
>>
>> Scott
>
>
> I want to smack you guys upside the head to wake you up. You are
> exhibiting the same elitist shit attitude the likes of Pratt and Taylor
> use to justify not taking calls.
No Jim, we're (I'm) just proposing an explanation for why there were no
callers, not agreeing with it.
Scott
Scotty
Ya but it "seemed* like he's of the opinion that Linden's retired now.
Scott
JD
barber green road
:)
bald as a pud!
and his name was curly
it's been a while since i heard that and may have it mixed up
somewhat.
foamy
Scotty <L...@de.da> wrote:
>Ya but it "seemed* like he's of the opinion that Linden's retired now.
Oh for sure Scotty. But Linden is done. The last game against Calgary
demonstrated that. There's no way Linden isn't toast witout the guys
like Iginla recognizing his last game.
Tighthead
> In article <fvomc3$7f...@aioe.org>, Scotty <L...@de.da> wrote:
> >Tighthead wrote:
> >> On May 5, 5:24 pm, bombe...@sulet.ten (foamy) wrote:
> >>> ............first my rant.
> >> Sometimes that decision is made by the guest, not the host. I would
> >> like to hear Gillis respond to guys who have found a way to trade
> >> Bieksa and Sanford for Iginla though.
>
> >That's a good point. Callers would probably ask a lot of questions that
> >Gillis isn't prepared to answer yet.
>
> >Scott
>
> I want to smack you guys upside the head to wake you up. You are
> exhibiting the same elitist shit attitude the likes of Pratt and Taylor
>
> ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**
Did you read what I wrote? I suggested that the guest makes that
decision.
Slap your own fucking head and turn off the lecture. How is that the
same "elitist shit attitude"? Any where in your asshole post does it
suggest that it may not be the case?
foamy
@z24g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, Tighthead <
tigh...@lawyer.com> wrote:
>Did you read what I wrote? I suggested that the guest makes that
>decision.
>
>Slap your own fucking head and turn off the lecture. How is that the
>same "elitist shit attitude"? Any where in your asshole post does it
>suggest that it may not be the case?
My, my, my, you seem to have taken that personal. Apparently you
missed the point of the original post, which was that Pratt promoted
the show by saying he'd be taking ' your calls to Gillis '. Because of
that I didn't feel it was necessary to deal with the situations where
guests aren't amenable to taking calls.
Instead I talked about what repeatedly happens in our market when
guests are willing to take calls, but the likes of Pratt or Good feels
the guest is so important only they they are qualified to ask questions
and won't dare involve the plebs. It's elitist crap and you seemed to
support it by giving Pratt an out when you had no idea whether Gillis
would take calls or not. We do know Pratt said he'd be taking calls, so
either he's a lying pos, or he continued to do what has become normal
for he and his ilk.
Tighthead
> In article <36f01652-ecad-4a10-b468-2e74e9f55ab5
> @z24g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, Tighthead <
>
I'd say the fact that they promoted taking calls and didn't is equally
consistent with the guest refusing to do so.
I am still not sure how it makes me an elitist. Neither of us know
why no calls were taken.
I'm not the one missing points, jumping to conclusions and saying
people need a smack upside the head.
Dave Logan
> In article <6dd432a0-5b20-4126-a8eb-0fd2ebedf88c
> @l28g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, Dave Logan
> >V did get a lot out of his past teams. He also had to juggle lines
> >last season, especially after Morrison was injured. But I agree that
> >line juggling and defence first are probably a bias of his.
> The guy is a juggling prick who players hate to play for because they
> have no idea from shift to shift who their linemates will be and never
> get comfortable with their game.
Both of the comments I made are true. No point ragging on me beyond
what I said, Jim.
foamy
@w8g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, Dave Logan <
dlogan_...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> The guy is a juggling prick who players hate to play for because they
>> have no idea from shift to shift who their linemates will be and never
>> get comfortable with their game.
>
>Both of the comments I made are true. No point ragging on me beyond
>what I said, Jim.
Who's ragging on you Dave, unless of course you juggle ?
Jim)