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Prairie Dove
Jul 5, 2017, 6:28:23 AM7/5/17
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My friends overseas keep asking me about Trump, I don't know what to tell them. Professor Rothkopf's words explain what most Americans fear, and until the Republican-controlled Senate and House pull him out* there's nothing we can do until 2018 mid-term elections. (I have included almost all of it in case it's behind a pay wall.)
The greatest threat facing the United States is its own president
By David Rothkopf July 4 at 2:02 PM
(David Rothkopf is the author of “The Great Questions of Tomorrow.” He is a visiting professor of international and public affairs at Columbia University’s School of International and Public Affairs and a visiting scholar at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.)
"Last week, at the Aspen Ideas Festival, I moderated a panel on U.S. national security in the Trump era. ...
....we turned to Trump’s erratic behavior and I noted that for the first time in three decades in the world of foreign policy, I was getting regular questions about the mental health of the president.
I asked Petraeus, a man I respect, if he thought the president was fit to serve. His response was, “It’s immaterial.” He argued that because the team around Trump was so good, they could offset whatever deficits he might have. I was floored. It was a stunningly weak defense.
That is where we are now. The president’s tweeting hysterically at the media is just an element of this. So too is his malignant and ever-visible narcissism. The president has demonstrated himself to have zero impulse control and a tendency to damage vital international relationships with ill-considered outbursts, to trust very few of the people in his own government, and to reportedly rant and shout at staff and even at the television sets he obsessively watches.
...But when you take the above behaviors and combine them with his resistance to doing the work needed to be president, to sitting down for briefings, to reading background materials, to familiarizing himself with details enough to manage his staff, there is clearly a problem. Compound it with his deliberate reluctance to fill key positions in government and his wild flip-flopping on critical issues from relations with China to trade, and you come to a conclusion that it may be that Trump’s fitness to serve as president is our nation’s core national security issue.
...Not only does the president diminish the office with his pettiness; he also shows disregard for constitutional principles including free speech, freedom of religion and separation of powers, and he operates as though he were above ethics laws. Daily he shows he lacks the character, discipline, intellect, judgment or respect for the office to be president of the United States.
In normal times, this would be worrying. But look at the news. North Korea is moving closer to having the ability to deliver a nuclear weapon to the United States. A confrontation is coming that will be a test of character pitting North Korea’s unhinged leader, Kim Jong Un, against our leader.
Later this week, he will sit down with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Hamburg, Germany, during the Group of 20 meeting. ... the summit reveals why it is so dangerous to have an erratic president. Much of U.S. foreign policy comes down to personal diplomacy conducted by the president and his actions in the wake of such meetings.
If a dedicated enemy of the United States and opportunist such as Putin determines to take advantage of Trump’s narcissism, ignorance, paranoia, business interests or brewing scandals, he will do just that. If he sees Trump’s behavior as a tacit endorsement of his own thuggishness, he will seize the opportunity. ....
... That is one reason, according to reports, that European officials are deeply concerned about the outcomes of the meeting ....
The United States has had a wide variety of presidents; we have as often been victimized by their errors of judgment as we have benefited from their leadership. But... we have never before seen a president so unfit for office. Even President Richard Nixon at his moments of darkest paranoia was a professional public servant who understood the office and the stakes associated with it.
One might, on this Independence Day week, have to go back to King George III to find a head of state who so threatened America. But there is no precedent for one whose character is so obviously ill-suited to the presidency. [...]"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2017/07/04/the-greatest-threat-facing-america-is-our-own-president/?utm_term=.2f776c6fb0b8
This is serious scary, folks.
v
* I'll say it again - they'd keep a ham sandwich in the Oval office as long as it could sign tax cuts for the wealthy.
The greatest threat facing the United States is its own president
By David Rothkopf July 4 at 2:02 PM
(David Rothkopf is the author of “The Great Questions of Tomorrow.” He is a visiting professor of international and public affairs at Columbia University’s School of International and Public Affairs and a visiting scholar at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.)
"Last week, at the Aspen Ideas Festival, I moderated a panel on U.S. national security in the Trump era. ...
....we turned to Trump’s erratic behavior and I noted that for the first time in three decades in the world of foreign policy, I was getting regular questions about the mental health of the president.
I asked Petraeus, a man I respect, if he thought the president was fit to serve. His response was, “It’s immaterial.” He argued that because the team around Trump was so good, they could offset whatever deficits he might have. I was floored. It was a stunningly weak defense.
That is where we are now. The president’s tweeting hysterically at the media is just an element of this. So too is his malignant and ever-visible narcissism. The president has demonstrated himself to have zero impulse control and a tendency to damage vital international relationships with ill-considered outbursts, to trust very few of the people in his own government, and to reportedly rant and shout at staff and even at the television sets he obsessively watches.
...But when you take the above behaviors and combine them with his resistance to doing the work needed to be president, to sitting down for briefings, to reading background materials, to familiarizing himself with details enough to manage his staff, there is clearly a problem. Compound it with his deliberate reluctance to fill key positions in government and his wild flip-flopping on critical issues from relations with China to trade, and you come to a conclusion that it may be that Trump’s fitness to serve as president is our nation’s core national security issue.
...Not only does the president diminish the office with his pettiness; he also shows disregard for constitutional principles including free speech, freedom of religion and separation of powers, and he operates as though he were above ethics laws. Daily he shows he lacks the character, discipline, intellect, judgment or respect for the office to be president of the United States.
In normal times, this would be worrying. But look at the news. North Korea is moving closer to having the ability to deliver a nuclear weapon to the United States. A confrontation is coming that will be a test of character pitting North Korea’s unhinged leader, Kim Jong Un, against our leader.
Later this week, he will sit down with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Hamburg, Germany, during the Group of 20 meeting. ... the summit reveals why it is so dangerous to have an erratic president. Much of U.S. foreign policy comes down to personal diplomacy conducted by the president and his actions in the wake of such meetings.
If a dedicated enemy of the United States and opportunist such as Putin determines to take advantage of Trump’s narcissism, ignorance, paranoia, business interests or brewing scandals, he will do just that. If he sees Trump’s behavior as a tacit endorsement of his own thuggishness, he will seize the opportunity. ....
... That is one reason, according to reports, that European officials are deeply concerned about the outcomes of the meeting ....
The United States has had a wide variety of presidents; we have as often been victimized by their errors of judgment as we have benefited from their leadership. But... we have never before seen a president so unfit for office. Even President Richard Nixon at his moments of darkest paranoia was a professional public servant who understood the office and the stakes associated with it.
One might, on this Independence Day week, have to go back to King George III to find a head of state who so threatened America. But there is no precedent for one whose character is so obviously ill-suited to the presidency. [...]"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2017/07/04/the-greatest-threat-facing-america-is-our-own-president/?utm_term=.2f776c6fb0b8
This is serious scary, folks.
v
* I'll say it again - they'd keep a ham sandwich in the Oval office as long as it could sign tax cuts for the wealthy.
Janet
Jul 5, 2017, 7:15:20 AM7/5/17
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In article <9bb9be6d-892c-47db...@googlegroups.com>,
prairied...@aol.com says...
Who could have foreseen a day when a POTUS would be so deeply
unwelcome in Britain that he daren't come here.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/03/donald-trump-may-visit-
uk-within-fortnight-whitehall-sources-say
"Donald Trump will not be making a surprise visit to his Scottish golf
course in the next two weeks, the White House has said, as the threat of
short-notice protests mounted in Britain.
A spokeswoman for the US president said on Monday that no trip was
imminent, amid mounting speculation that Trump was planning to make an
unofficial visit to the UK on his way to or from the G20 summit in
Hamburg this week.
?While we look forward to visiting the UK, it will not happen in the
next two weeks,? the spokeswoman said.
Trump will start his European trip in Warsaw on Thursday, when he will
address 12 central European, Baltic and western Balkan leaders, before
travelling to Germany on Friday.
Protesters were planning to swing into action at short notice at his
golf courses in Scotland " <...>
This follows his earlier fears for any state visit.
"May invited Trump to Britain seven days after his inauguration when
she became the first foreign leader to visit him in the White House. In
February activists, MPs and trade unions vowed to hold the largest
demonstrations in UK history if Trump made a state visit to the UK. They
formed the Stop Trump coalition and even hired a permanent staff member.
In early June, just after the UK general election, it emerged that Trump
had told May he did not want to go ahead with the state visit until the
British public supported his coming, fearing large-scale
demonstrations."
Janet.
prairied...@aol.com says...
>
> My friends overseas keep asking me about Trump, I don't know what to tell them. Professor Rothkopf's words explain what most Americans fear, and until the Republican-controlled Senate and House pull him out* there's nothing we can do until 2018 mid-term elections. (I have included almost all of it in case it's behind a pay wall.)
>
> The greatest threat facing the United States is its own president
>
> By David Rothkopf July 4 at 2:02 PM
snip)
> My friends overseas keep asking me about Trump, I don't know what to tell them. Professor Rothkopf's words explain what most Americans fear, and until the Republican-controlled Senate and House pull him out* there's nothing we can do until 2018 mid-term elections. (I have included almost all of it in case it's behind a pay wall.)
>
> The greatest threat facing the United States is its own president
>
> By David Rothkopf July 4 at 2:02 PM
> This is serious scary, folks.
Yes :-(
Who could have foreseen a day when a POTUS would be so deeply
unwelcome in Britain that he daren't come here.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/03/donald-trump-may-visit-
uk-within-fortnight-whitehall-sources-say
"Donald Trump will not be making a surprise visit to his Scottish golf
course in the next two weeks, the White House has said, as the threat of
short-notice protests mounted in Britain.
A spokeswoman for the US president said on Monday that no trip was
imminent, amid mounting speculation that Trump was planning to make an
unofficial visit to the UK on his way to or from the G20 summit in
Hamburg this week.
?While we look forward to visiting the UK, it will not happen in the
next two weeks,? the spokeswoman said.
Trump will start his European trip in Warsaw on Thursday, when he will
address 12 central European, Baltic and western Balkan leaders, before
travelling to Germany on Friday.
Protesters were planning to swing into action at short notice at his
golf courses in Scotland " <...>
This follows his earlier fears for any state visit.
"May invited Trump to Britain seven days after his inauguration when
she became the first foreign leader to visit him in the White House. In
February activists, MPs and trade unions vowed to hold the largest
demonstrations in UK history if Trump made a state visit to the UK. They
formed the Stop Trump coalition and even hired a permanent staff member.
In early June, just after the UK general election, it emerged that Trump
had told May he did not want to go ahead with the state visit until the
British public supported his coming, fearing large-scale
demonstrations."
Janet.
Lonesome Dove
Jul 5, 2017, 4:08:06 PM7/5/17
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is being attacked.
Disposing of bullshit
one pile at a time
Lonesome Dove
mixed nuts
Jul 5, 2017, 4:51:27 PM7/5/17
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> Maybe you can get help from Russia or China the next time your
> country is being attacked.
>
They can blow Trumpets and God Emperor Don Q. Trumpolini will come out
> country is being attacked.
>
of the grapes of wrath vineyard and protect them with his terrible swift
golf sword that can also slay windmills.
--
Grizzly H.
ctnafi...@gmail.com
Jul 5, 2017, 5:22:30 PM7/5/17
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Fran
Jul 6, 2017, 2:30:42 AM7/6/17
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On 5/07/2017 8:28 PM, Prairie Dove wrote:
> My friends overseas keep asking me about Trump, I don't know what to tell them. Professor Rothkopf's words explain what most Americans fear, and until the Republican-controlled Senate and House pull him out* there's nothing we can do until 2018 mid-term elections. (I have included almost all of it in case it's behind a pay wall.)
Well the only thing you can do is what the rest of the world is doing -
> My friends overseas keep asking me about Trump, I don't know what to tell them. Professor Rothkopf's words explain what most Americans fear, and until the Republican-controlled Senate and House pull him out* there's nothing we can do until 2018 mid-term elections. (I have included almost all of it in case it's behind a pay wall.)
laugh. The man is a joke but with a bit of luck, some of the security
services are probably already keeping a very close eye on him and any
real danger he could possibly do to your country.
And try to avoid articles about him. He's clearly nutty but reading
aobut him will only depress you about the depths to which he stoops.
Interesting article but one sees such articles all the time - he's
upsetting all of the world and he's clearly mad and increasingly
unpopular but his time too will pass.
pacmsi...@gmail.com
Jul 6, 2017, 2:55:44 AM7/6/17
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Janet
Jul 6, 2017, 4:39:07 AM7/6/17
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In article <ojjjga$1laq$1...@gioia.aioe.org>,
melops...@undulatus.budgie says...
USA that takes Americans completely by surprise because they thought
Korea was fake news.
Janet
melops...@undulatus.budgie says...
> > Maybe you can get help from Russia or China the next time your
> > country is being attacked.
> >
>
> They can blow Trumpets and God Emperor Don Q. Trumpolini will come out
> of the grapes of wrath vineyard and protect them with his terrible swift
> golf sword that can also slay windmills.
Course, he'll probably wait a year or two, until after an attack on the
> > country is being attacked.
> >
>
> They can blow Trumpets and God Emperor Don Q. Trumpolini will come out
> of the grapes of wrath vineyard and protect them with his terrible swift
> golf sword that can also slay windmills.
USA that takes Americans completely by surprise because they thought
Korea was fake news.
Janet
Prairie Dove
Jul 6, 2017, 6:40:38 AM7/6/17
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I had to laugh when I heard a guy on TV defending Trump, trying to compare his use of Twitter with FDR's use of the radio - he's only using new technology to reach the masses, blah blah blah. Another guy said yeah, but FDR didn't get on the radio and make fart noises and personally attack people who disagreed with him.
Bobbie Smith
Jul 6, 2017, 7:11:50 AM7/6/17
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a democracy. Good to see your happy self. Sadly don't think I know who
Grizzly H is.
Bobbie
Bobbie Smith
Jul 6, 2017, 7:13:27 AM7/6/17
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Bobbie Smith
Jul 6, 2017, 7:15:22 AM7/6/17
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Bobbie Smith
Jul 6, 2017, 7:17:27 AM7/6/17
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Lonesome Dove
Jul 6, 2017, 3:19:27 PM7/6/17
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waste our sons a duaghters on your worthless lives again. I'll happily
vote no!
Lonesome Dove
Jul 6, 2017, 3:27:00 PM7/6/17
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understand "The Art of the deal" you'd see how big a fools you are
making of yourselves. "Keep your adversaries antagonized and your own
temperament under control, you'll always win over an angry opponent"
and "know when to fein outrage". I've found that to work every time.
Lonesome Dove
Jul 6, 2017, 3:28:40 PM7/6/17
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clinic.
Joy
Jul 6, 2017, 3:49:10 PM7/6/17
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Fran
Jul 6, 2017, 8:50:35 PM7/6/17
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On 7/07/2017 5:19 AM, Lonesome Dove wrote:
> Hopefully he will allow us a vote as to whether or not we want to
> waste our sons a duaghters on your worthless lives again. I'll happily
> vote no!
You are a dimwit. You don't know sufficient history to sound like
> Hopefully he will allow us a vote as to whether or not we want to
> waste our sons a duaghters on your worthless lives again. I'll happily
> vote no!
you've got a clue, and you're too dim to be able to look at a conman who
has left a trail of con tricks behind him for decades and identify him
for what he is.
WWII was as much a threat to US interest's as it was to the rest of the
western world and the US didn't ride in to save the Brits at all as you
would know if you'd done any reading on the subject. It really is about
time that dumb Americans like you stopped trying to spread the
ridiculous myth about the US being a saviour of Europe.
By the time the US wandered along in 1942, The Brits had already seen
off any real attempt by Germany to invade Britain. The Brits did that
in the Battle of Britain.
Yes, the US did do a good job (eventually). But save Britain it did
not. Britain did that for itself. Hitler knew he couldn't invade
Britain without dominance in the sky as the British navy was too strong.
He and his ocuntry didn't win the air war so he knew that invasion was
not a reality.
> Disposing of bullshit
> one pile at a time
at others who know it's YOUR bullshit and who also know you should own it.
Fran
Jul 6, 2017, 8:54:13 PM7/6/17
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On 6/07/2017 4:55 PM, pacmsi...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, July 6, 2017 at 7:30:42 AM UTC+1, Fran wrote:
>> On 5/07/2017 8:28 PM, Prairie Dove wrote:
>>> My friends overseas keep asking me about Trump, I don't know what to tell them. Professor Rothkopf's words explain what most Americans fear, and until the Republican-controlled Senate and House pull him out* there's nothing we can do until 2018 mid-term elections. (I have included almost all of it in case it's behind a pay wall.)
>>
>> Well the only thing you can do is what the rest of the world is doing -
>> laugh. The man is a joke but with a bit of luck, some of the security
>> services are probably already keeping a very close eye on him and any
>> real danger he could possibly do to your country.
> On Thursday, July 6, 2017 at 7:30:42 AM UTC+1, Fran wrote:
>> On 5/07/2017 8:28 PM, Prairie Dove wrote:
>>> My friends overseas keep asking me about Trump, I don't know what to tell them. Professor Rothkopf's words explain what most Americans fear, and until the Republican-controlled Senate and House pull him out* there's nothing we can do until 2018 mid-term elections. (I have included almost all of it in case it's behind a pay wall.)
>>
>> Well the only thing you can do is what the rest of the world is doing -
>> laugh. The man is a joke but with a bit of luck, some of the security
>> services are probably already keeping a very close eye on him and any
>> real danger he could possibly do to your country.
> The American security service have no over-sight on the American President. Mr Trump was legally elected he is, regardless of what the rest of the world thinks probably the most powerful man on earth.
>
Time you had a reality check Sinclair. Reporting to someone on paper is
>
not always what happens in the real world. There is already enough
disquiet about the stability and sanity of Trump in all corners of the
world that I'd bet the farm that he's being closely monitored by a
number of internal groups both covertly and openly.
Fran
Jul 6, 2017, 8:56:09 PM7/6/17
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brain dead morons telling people who don't like Trump to do just that.
>
> I had to laugh when I heard a guy on TV defending Trump, trying to compare his use of Twitter with FDR's use of the radio - he's only using new technology to reach the masses, blah blah blah. Another guy said yeah, but FDR didn't get on the radio and make fart noises and personally attack people who disagreed with him.
Sadly that is so true.
> I had to laugh when I heard a guy on TV defending Trump, trying to compare his use of Twitter with FDR's use of the radio - he's only using new technology to reach the masses, blah blah blah. Another guy said yeah, but FDR didn't get on the radio and make fart noises and personally attack people who disagreed with him.
Fran
Jul 6, 2017, 8:57:49 PM7/6/17
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of puerile insults of his hero.
Fran
Jul 6, 2017, 9:04:19 PM7/6/17
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Trump's doesn't have a long enough attention span to write that book.
He's a fake author. the author of that book was Tony Schwartz and he's
what is known as a ghost writer. But you'd know that if you had reading
skills at a high enough level to know how to use google.
"Keep your adversaries antagonized and your own
> temperament under control, you'll always win over an angry opponent"
> and "know when to fein outrage". I've found that to work every time.
pacmsi...@gmail.com
Jul 6, 2017, 10:31:14 PM7/6/17
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pacmsi...@gmail.com
Jul 6, 2017, 10:36:43 PM7/6/17
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pacmsi...@gmail.com
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pacmsi...@gmail.com
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mixed nuts
Jul 7, 2017, 1:22:34 AM7/7/17
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On 7/6/2017 3:26 PM, Lonesome Dove wrote:
[...]
[...]
>
> If you foreign pukes could read at a level high enough to read and
> understand "The Art of the deal"
It's "The Art of the Dill" when written in "True American".
> If you foreign pukes could read at a level high enough to read and
> understand "The Art of the deal"
Surreyman
Jul 7, 2017, 3:52:00 AM7/7/17
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I've long given up trying to correct USites on this one.
... Except for when I was in LA in 1982 when one total idiot said something along the lines of "We bailed you out of WWII, and we've now bailed you out of the Falklands too".
I felt that I had to comment mildly ......
And found myself another job, since he was my boss!!!!!
Janet
Jul 7, 2017, 5:03:27 AM7/7/17
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In article <6e998c4e-72d2-48b3...@googlegroups.com>,
pacmsi...@gmail.com says...
> Subject: Re: Trump, America's greatest threat
> From: pacmsi...@gmail.com
> Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus
hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-
column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
https://tinyurl.com/ybot9gdp
Janet
pacmsi...@gmail.com says...
> Subject: Re: Trump, America's greatest threat
> From: pacmsi...@gmail.com
> Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus
>
> On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 12:15:20 PM UTC+1, Janet wrote:
> > [quoted text muted]
> On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 12:15:20 PM UTC+1, Janet wrote:
> > had told May he did not want to go ahead with the state visit until the
> > British public supported his coming, fearing large-scale
> > demonstrations."
> >
> > Janet.
> Please cite you reference
>
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/11/us/politics/trump-uk-visit.html?
> > British public supported his coming, fearing large-scale
> > demonstrations."
> >
> > Janet.
> Please cite you reference
>
hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-
column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
https://tinyurl.com/ybot9gdp
Janet
Prairie Dove
Jul 7, 2017, 5:15:09 AM7/7/17
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On Thursday, July 6, 2017 at 6:17:27 AM UTC-5, Bobbie Smith wrote:
> On 06/07/2017 11:40, Prairie Dove wrote:
[..]
> On 06/07/2017 11:40, Prairie Dove wrote:
> >>>
> >>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2017/07/04/the-greatest-threat-facing-america-is-our-own-president/?utm_term=.2f776c6fb0b8
> >>>
> >>> This is serious scary, folks.
> >>> v
> >>> * I'll say it again - they'd keep a ham sandwich in the Oval office as long as it could sign tax cuts for the wealthy.
> >>>
> >
> > ;) So, just sit back and enjoy this exciting cross-country trip on a bus that has a stuck accelerator, failed brakes and an engine on fire......
> >
> > I had to laugh when I heard a guy on TV defending Trump, trying to compare his use of Twitter with FDR's use of the radio - he's only using new technology to reach the masses, blah blah blah. Another guy said yeah, but FDR didn't get on the radio and make fart noises and personally attack people who disagreed with him.
> >
>
> Hi Prairie Dove, do I know you? If not, would like to.
>
> B
>
Hello Bobbie, it's me, VickieB in Okrahoma! ;)
> >>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2017/07/04/the-greatest-threat-facing-america-is-our-own-president/?utm_term=.2f776c6fb0b8
> >>>
> >>> This is serious scary, folks.
> >>> v
> >>> * I'll say it again - they'd keep a ham sandwich in the Oval office as long as it could sign tax cuts for the wealthy.
> >>>
> >
> > ;) So, just sit back and enjoy this exciting cross-country trip on a bus that has a stuck accelerator, failed brakes and an engine on fire......
> >
> > I had to laugh when I heard a guy on TV defending Trump, trying to compare his use of Twitter with FDR's use of the radio - he's only using new technology to reach the masses, blah blah blah. Another guy said yeah, but FDR didn't get on the radio and make fart noises and personally attack people who disagreed with him.
> >
>
> Hi Prairie Dove, do I know you? If not, would like to.
>
> B
>
Bobbie
Jul 7, 2017, 8:00:29 AM7/7/17
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So good to see you VickieB from Ocrahama.;-))))
Janet
Jul 7, 2017, 8:56:14 AM7/7/17
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Fran
Jul 7, 2017, 10:01:44 PM7/7/17
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vote.
Fran
Jul 7, 2017, 10:06:03 PM7/7/17
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then that's not my problem. Ask our former wife about US interference
in Australia in 1975. If they can work so assiduously to get rid of an
elected government of an ally, then those same US spook agencies aren't
above meddling internally if they end up with a dangerous and demented
POTUS.
Fran
Jul 7, 2017, 10:10:48 PM7/7/17
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may have changed but you've yet again prove that you're a dimwitted troll.
Not a squeak from you about the insults from Lonesome Dove and you're
not even smart enough to recognise that well known fact that Trump
didn't write the art of the deal.
Joy
Jul 8, 2017, 1:26:49 AM7/8/17
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largest margin is when you're talking about the popular vote.
ctnafi...@gmail.com
Jul 8, 2017, 3:17:51 AM7/8/17
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Bobbie
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pacmsi...@gmail.com
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Mr Trump has already destroyed President Obama fair pay for women executive order. Women in America doing the same job as a man only earns 83 cent to a male workers 100 cents per houre
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Fran
Jul 8, 2017, 5:48:28 PM7/8/17
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Just joking.
Jean B.
Jul 8, 2017, 6:38:19 PM7/8/17
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Prairie Dove wrote:
> My friends overseas keep asking me about Trump, I don't know what to tell them. Professor Rothkopf's words explain what most Americans fear, and until the Republican-controlled Senate and House pull him out* there's nothing we can do until 2018 mid-term elections. (I have included almost all of it in case it's behind a pay wall.)
>
> My friends overseas keep asking me about Trump, I don't know what to tell them. Professor Rothkopf's words explain what most Americans fear, and until the Republican-controlled Senate and House pull him out* there's nothing we can do until 2018 mid-term elections. (I have included almost all of it in case it's behind a pay wall.)
>
> The greatest threat facing the United States is its own president
>
> By David Rothkopf July 4 at 2:02 PM
>
> (David Rothkopf is the author of “The Great Questions of Tomorrow.” He is a visiting professor of international and public affairs at Columbia University’s School of International and Public Affairs and a visiting scholar at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.)
>
> "Last week, at the Aspen Ideas Festival, I moderated a panel on U.S. national security in the Trump era. ...
>
> ....we turned to Trump’s erratic behavior and I noted that for the first time in three decades in the world of foreign policy, I was getting regular questions about the mental health of the president.
>
> I asked Petraeus, a man I respect, if he thought the president was fit to serve. His response was, “It’s immaterial.” He argued that because the team around Trump was so good, they could offset whatever deficits he might have. I was floored. It was a stunningly weak defense.
>
> That is where we are now. The president’s tweeting hysterically at the media is just an element of this. So too is his malignant and ever-visible narcissism. The president has demonstrated himself to have zero impulse control and a tendency to damage vital international relationships with ill-considered outbursts, to trust very few of the people in his own government, and to reportedly rant and shout at staff and even at the television sets he obsessively watches.
>
> ...But when you take the above behaviors and combine them with his resistance to doing the work needed to be president, to sitting down for briefings, to reading background materials, to familiarizing himself with details enough to manage his staff, there is clearly a problem. Compound it with his deliberate reluctance to fill key positions in government and his wild flip-flopping on critical issues from relations with China to trade, and you come to a conclusion that it may be that Trump’s fitness to serve as president is our nation’s core national security issue.
>
> ...Not only does the president diminish the office with his pettiness; he also shows disregard for constitutional principles including free speech, freedom of religion and separation of powers, and he operates as though he were above ethics laws. Daily he shows he lacks the character, discipline, intellect, judgment or respect for the office to be president of the United States.
>
> In normal times, this would be worrying. But look at the news. North Korea is moving closer to having the ability to deliver a nuclear weapon to the United States. A confrontation is coming that will be a test of character pitting North Korea’s unhinged leader, Kim Jong Un, against our leader.
>
> Later this week, he will sit down with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Hamburg, Germany, during the Group of 20 meeting. ... the summit reveals why it is so dangerous to have an erratic president. Much of U.S. foreign policy comes down to personal diplomacy conducted by the president and his actions in the wake of such meetings.
>
> If a dedicated enemy of the United States and opportunist such as Putin determines to take advantage of Trump’s narcissism, ignorance, paranoia, business interests or brewing scandals, he will do just that. If he sees Trump’s behavior as a tacit endorsement of his own thuggishness, he will seize the opportunity. ....
>
> ... That is one reason, according to reports, that European officials are deeply concerned about the outcomes of the meeting ....
>
> The United States has had a wide variety of presidents; we have as often been victimized by their errors of judgment as we have benefited from their leadership. But... we have never before seen a president so unfit for office. Even President Richard Nixon at his moments of darkest paranoia was a professional public servant who understood the office and the stakes associated with it.
>
> One might, on this Independence Day week, have to go back to King George III to find a head of state who so threatened America. But there is no precedent for one whose character is so obviously ill-suited to the presidency. [...]"
>
>
> By David Rothkopf July 4 at 2:02 PM
>
> (David Rothkopf is the author of “The Great Questions of Tomorrow.” He is a visiting professor of international and public affairs at Columbia University’s School of International and Public Affairs and a visiting scholar at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.)
>
> "Last week, at the Aspen Ideas Festival, I moderated a panel on U.S. national security in the Trump era. ...
>
> ....we turned to Trump’s erratic behavior and I noted that for the first time in three decades in the world of foreign policy, I was getting regular questions about the mental health of the president.
>
> I asked Petraeus, a man I respect, if he thought the president was fit to serve. His response was, “It’s immaterial.” He argued that because the team around Trump was so good, they could offset whatever deficits he might have. I was floored. It was a stunningly weak defense.
>
> That is where we are now. The president’s tweeting hysterically at the media is just an element of this. So too is his malignant and ever-visible narcissism. The president has demonstrated himself to have zero impulse control and a tendency to damage vital international relationships with ill-considered outbursts, to trust very few of the people in his own government, and to reportedly rant and shout at staff and even at the television sets he obsessively watches.
>
> ...But when you take the above behaviors and combine them with his resistance to doing the work needed to be president, to sitting down for briefings, to reading background materials, to familiarizing himself with details enough to manage his staff, there is clearly a problem. Compound it with his deliberate reluctance to fill key positions in government and his wild flip-flopping on critical issues from relations with China to trade, and you come to a conclusion that it may be that Trump’s fitness to serve as president is our nation’s core national security issue.
>
> ...Not only does the president diminish the office with his pettiness; he also shows disregard for constitutional principles including free speech, freedom of religion and separation of powers, and he operates as though he were above ethics laws. Daily he shows he lacks the character, discipline, intellect, judgment or respect for the office to be president of the United States.
>
> In normal times, this would be worrying. But look at the news. North Korea is moving closer to having the ability to deliver a nuclear weapon to the United States. A confrontation is coming that will be a test of character pitting North Korea’s unhinged leader, Kim Jong Un, against our leader.
>
> Later this week, he will sit down with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Hamburg, Germany, during the Group of 20 meeting. ... the summit reveals why it is so dangerous to have an erratic president. Much of U.S. foreign policy comes down to personal diplomacy conducted by the president and his actions in the wake of such meetings.
>
> If a dedicated enemy of the United States and opportunist such as Putin determines to take advantage of Trump’s narcissism, ignorance, paranoia, business interests or brewing scandals, he will do just that. If he sees Trump’s behavior as a tacit endorsement of his own thuggishness, he will seize the opportunity. ....
>
> ... That is one reason, according to reports, that European officials are deeply concerned about the outcomes of the meeting ....
>
> The United States has had a wide variety of presidents; we have as often been victimized by their errors of judgment as we have benefited from their leadership. But... we have never before seen a president so unfit for office. Even President Richard Nixon at his moments of darkest paranoia was a professional public servant who understood the office and the stakes associated with it.
>
> One might, on this Independence Day week, have to go back to King George III to find a head of state who so threatened America. But there is no precedent for one whose character is so obviously ill-suited to the presidency. [...]"
>
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2017/07/04/the-greatest-threat-facing-america-is-our-own-president/?utm_term=.2f776c6fb0b8
>
> This is serious scary, folks.
> v
> * I'll say it again - they'd keep a ham sandwich in the Oval office as long as it could sign tax cuts for the wealthy.
>
(Agreeing, but speechless.)
>
> This is serious scary, folks.
> v
> * I'll say it again - they'd keep a ham sandwich in the Oval office as long as it could sign tax cuts for the wealthy.
>
Jean B.
Jul 8, 2017, 6:50:54 PM7/8/17
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Janet wrote:
> In article <ojjjga$1laq$1...@gioia.aioe.org>,
> melops...@undulatus.budgie says...
> USA that takes Americans completely by surprise because they thought
> Korea was fake news.
>
> Janet
>
I don't think North Korean actions are seen that way. MY fear on that
front is that he will make matters MUCH worse. But then, we don't have
a crystal ball.
> In article <ojjjga$1laq$1...@gioia.aioe.org>,
> melops...@undulatus.budgie says...
>>> Maybe you can get help from Russia or China the next time your
>>> country is being attacked.
>>>
>>
>> They can blow Trumpets and God Emperor Don Q. Trumpolini will come out
>> of the grapes of wrath vineyard and protect them with his terrible swift
>> golf sword that can also slay windmills.
>
> Course, he'll probably wait a year or two, until after an attack on the
>>> country is being attacked.
>>>
>>
>> They can blow Trumpets and God Emperor Don Q. Trumpolini will come out
>> of the grapes of wrath vineyard and protect them with his terrible swift
>> golf sword that can also slay windmills.
>
> USA that takes Americans completely by surprise because they thought
> Korea was fake news.
>
> Janet
>
I don't think North Korean actions are seen that way. MY fear on that
front is that he will make matters MUCH worse. But then, we don't have
a crystal ball.
Jean B.
Jul 8, 2017, 6:52:12 PM7/8/17
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Bobbie Smith wrote:
> On 06/07/2017 07:55, pacmsi...@gmail.com wrote:
>> The American security service have no over-sight on the American
>> President. Mr Trump was legally elected he is, regardless of what the
>> rest of the world thinks probably the most powerful man on earth.
>>
> OMG.....save us all. :-))
Yes. I echo that thought.
> On 06/07/2017 07:55, pacmsi...@gmail.com wrote:
>> The American security service have no over-sight on the American
>> President. Mr Trump was legally elected he is, regardless of what the
>> rest of the world thinks probably the most powerful man on earth.
>>
Yes. I echo that thought.
Jean B.
Jul 8, 2017, 6:54:58 PM7/8/17
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Fran wrote:
> Time you had a reality check Sinclair. Reporting to someone on paper
> is not always what happens in the real world. There is already
> enough disquiet about the stability and sanity of Trump in all
> corners of the world that I'd bet the farm that he's being closely
> monitored by a number of internal groups both covertly and openly.
>
It's not like he could be admired by the intelligence community.
> Time you had a reality check Sinclair. Reporting to someone on paper
> is not always what happens in the real world. There is already
> enough disquiet about the stability and sanity of Trump in all
> corners of the world that I'd bet the farm that he's being closely
> monitored by a number of internal groups both covertly and openly.
>
Perhaps we are lucky that he has seemingly tried his hardest
(unwittingly) to make enemies there.
Jean B.
Jul 8, 2017, 6:58:14 PM7/8/17
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Fran wrote:
> On 6/07/2017 8:40 PM, Prairie Dove wrote:
[snip... and I HOPE I haven't screwed up the attributions]
> On 6/07/2017 8:40 PM, Prairie Dove wrote:
> What else can you do other than migrate? I'm sure there are enough
> brain dead morons telling people who don't like Trump to do just
> that.
>>
>> I had to laugh when I heard a guy on TV defending Trump, trying to
>> compare his use of Twitter with FDR's use of the radio - he's only
>> using new technology to reach the masses, blah blah blah. Another
>> guy said yeah, but FDR didn't get on the radio and make fart noises
>> and personally attack people who disagreed with him.
>
> Sadly that is so true.
>
In theory, I'd love to migrate. I discovered many years ago, when
> brain dead morons telling people who don't like Trump to do just
> that.
>>
>> I had to laugh when I heard a guy on TV defending Trump, trying to
>> compare his use of Twitter with FDR's use of the radio - he's only
>> using new technology to reach the masses, blah blah blah. Another
>> guy said yeah, but FDR didn't get on the radio and make fart noises
>> and personally attack people who disagreed with him.
>
> Sadly that is so true.
>
semi-casually looking, that it isn't that easy. It also would be harder
to adjust now than it would have been when I was younger.
Jean B.
Jul 8, 2017, 7:00:07 PM7/8/17
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Fran wrote:
> The only person making a fool of themselves is you. Trump's doesn't
> have a long enough attention span to write that book. He's a fake
> author. the author of that book was Tony Schwartz and he's what is
> known as a ghost writer. But you'd know that if you had reading
> skills at a high enough level to know how to use google.
And Tony Schwartz felt that he had to warn folks about the
> The only person making a fool of themselves is you. Trump's doesn't
> have a long enough attention span to write that book. He's a fake
> author. the author of that book was Tony Schwartz and he's what is
> known as a ghost writer. But you'd know that if you had reading
> skills at a high enough level to know how to use google.
then-candidate for president.
Jean B.
Jul 8, 2017, 7:04:35 PM7/8/17
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pacmsi...@gmail.com wrote:
> You are correct the American Constitution and the customs and traditions of the republic are meaningless. Trump's victory by the largest margin in the last 52 American presidential definitely alter American law, customs and traditions. Reality check the is Trump is in the White House.
>
Clinton won the popular vote.
> You are correct the American Constitution and the customs and traditions of the republic are meaningless. Trump's victory by the largest margin in the last 52 American presidential definitely alter American law, customs and traditions. Reality check the is Trump is in the White House.
>
I was discussing with a friend the fact that allotting two senators per
state is probably unwarranted now. It gives some states and voters more
power than they should have.
Plus we need to get rid of the electoral college (which Tramp did win).
Plus we need to outlaw ridiculous gerrymandering.
Jean B.
Jul 8, 2017, 7:05:56 PM7/8/17
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whether eligible voters arrived at the polls only to find that they
weren't on the voter lists.
Joy
Jul 9, 2017, 1:18:30 AM7/9/17
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