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Kenneth McVay OBC

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Oct 22, 2008, 2:21:02 PM10/22/08
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[...]

"Mr. Warman said that Mr. Grosvenor has at least one tangible asset that
he knows of - a home.

"I never count chickens before they're hatched, but in this case, it is my
full intent to enforce the judgment," Mr. Warman said.

"I think it sends a very strong message that there are legal consequences
in any civilized society for stalking another human being and encouraging
people to murder him over an extended period."

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=db77e7f7-aa1f-41a3-b0eb-1559c7f40c85

'Among other things, Mr. Grosvenor published maps showing how to get to
Mr. Warman's home, described him as a "Dead Jew Walking," and repeatedly
called for his murder."


--
"What did you say. Did the burry the train with the show wen
can you show us the buried train Sara. As you know seeing is beliving."
(Kurt Knoll, Kitimat, B.C.'s Leading Revisionist Scholar)
The Nizkor Project: http://www.nizkor.org/

Peace Power

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Oct 22, 2008, 3:51:17 PM10/22/08
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On Oct 22, 11:21 am, kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
<flush kangaroo-court ramblings, it ain't over until all appeals are
ruled upon>
Groups restored.

On Oct 21, 9:49 pm, Crime Watch <CrimeWa...@SayNo2CriminalThugs.net>
wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:12:09 -0500, <e-OdnWRj5-IUtGPVnZ2dnUVZ_v_in...@vex.net>, kmc...@shell.vex.net
> (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>Richard Warman v. William Grosvenor: Reasons for Judgment
>Ontario Superior Court of Justice, October 21, 2008
>For two years, Edmonton resident William Grosvenor engaged in a virtual
>campaign of terror against Ottawa human rights lawyer Richard Warman.
>Grosvenor bombarded the Internet with calls to murder Warman while
>providing his home address, and links to pictures of him and Google maps
>on how to get to his home. Combined with this were hundreds of online
>postings attempting to destroy Warman's personal and professional
>reputation.

The only one I have seen doing such is you McVay.
http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/g/grosvenor.william/2007/via-shaw.200705

>Now a judge of the Ontario Superior Court of Justice has granted an
>injunction to put an end to it and has awarded Warman $50,000 in damages
>for defamation and assault, the latter stemming from Grosvenor's death
>threats and incitement to violence.
>These threats of violence repeatedly
>called for Warman's murder, described him as a "Dead Jew walking", and
>said: "I AM GOD AND I HAVE A RUGER P-90 AND IT'S BULLETS HAVE YOUR NAME ON
>THEM FAGBOY WARMAN?." [sic]

That stuff looks exactly like what your ally Steven "Caduceus" Horn
sent to numerous people.
http://www.oscn.net/applications/ocisweb/GetCaseInformation.asp?submitted=true&viewtype=caseGeneral&casemasterID=2133794&db=Oklahoma
IN THE DISTRICT COURT IN AND FOR OKLAHOMA COUNTY, OKLAHOMA
STATE OF OKLAHOMA,
Plaintiff,
v.
STEVEN CRAIG HORN,
Defendant. No. CF-2007-864
(Criminal Felony)

04-03-2008 O - HORN, STEVEN CRAIG 53764428 Apr 8 2008
12:04:23:753PM
OK CO SHERIFF WHETSEL IS ORDERED TO DIRECT THE MEDICAL STAFF OF OK CO
JAIL TO DISPENSE PRESCRIPTIONS
FROM DR. RANDHAWA TO DEFT/JUDGE ELLIOTT
Document Available at Court Clerk's Office
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04-09-2008 TCSR - HORN, STEVEN CRAIG 53822768 Apr 14 2008
1:24:00:433PM
TEMPORARY COMMITMENT W/SHERIFF'S RETURN
Document Available at Court Clerk's Office
MICROFILM: REEL 1144 FRAMENUMBER 571
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06-23-2008 APLI - HORN, STEVEN CRAIG 54505370 Jun 26 2008
4:02:11:920PM
APPLICATION TO DELIVER THE DEFT TO DEACONESS HOSPITAL & RETURN

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http://www.mwcsun.com/local/local_story_050094629.html
Published: February 19, 2007 09:46 am
40-gun cache
Man arrested for alleged threats against woman’s children
By Eric Bradshaw, staff writer
The Sunday Sun

An Oklahoma City man accused of threatening to shoot a woman’s
children was arrested Thursday just after
midnight at his home.

Spencer Police filed charges Tuesday against Steven Craig Horn, 46,
for allegedly making death threats
against an area woman and her children by e-mail and for making a
harassing phone call.

Horn was charged with two counts of using a computer to put another
person in fear of harm or death and
one count of making harassing phone calls.

According to court records, Horn allegedly wrote in one e-mail, “What
you did between (a woman Horn
claims is a former girlfriend) and I means that you can kiss your two
sons good-bye. Remember I’m GOD. I
decide who lives and who dies and your two boys die.”

In another, he is alleged to have written, “Remember I have a .45
automatic and can take your b.....d
sons out.”

Spencer Det. Olan Boydston said he received information from Oklahoma
City Police that Horn called them
on July 7 threatening to kill himself and requesting to be put in
protective custody. He had been
self-medicating with Valium and alcohol, Boydston reported.

Boydston’s report said Oklahoma City Police confiscated 21 firearms
from Horn at the time, but later
returned them. They had been investigating a threatening call Horn
allegedly made to Garland, Texas
Police. Horn allegedly threatened to “shoot the judge and the pig cop
that gave her (his former
girlfriend) a ticket.”

Boydston received an anonymous call traced to Horn’s phone after he
interviewed the man, the police
report said. “I am God, and I also still have my Ruger P-90 and it has
a bullet with your name on it,”
Horn reportedly told him.

A cache of 40 firearms was confiscated from Horn’s home along with a
computer with images of young girls.

Horn’s father said his son was mentally unstable and a potential
danger to himself and others.

=====================================================================

Compare what your co-hort did as reported in an Oklahoma newspaper: “I
am God, and I also still have my
Ruger P-90 and it has a bullet with your name on it,” to what you and
Warman falsely accuse Mr. Grosvenor
as sending Warman: "I AM GOD AND I HAVE A RUGER P-90 AND IT'S BULLETS
HAVE YOUR NAME ON
THEM FAGBOY WARMAN?." [sic] Where are the headers? Where is the real
proof? It is well known that both
you (Kenneth McVay) and Steven "Caduceus" Horn hate Bill Grosvenor so
I see a great possibility there has
been a conspiracy to frame Bill Grosvenor. You and your fellows have
never forged anyone or fabricated
evidence against your opponents have you?

Something certainly looks very fishy to me.

Here is the booking photo of your accomplice Steven Craig Horn:
http://fourthreichisrael.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/booking.jpg

>In her decision issued 20 October 2008, Justice Lynn Ratushny found that
>despite Grosvenor having filed papers saying he intended to defend the
>civil suit, he never did and was thus deemed to have admitted the
>allegations against him. Instead of defending the action, the day after
>being served with the statement of claim on 15 Jan. 2008 , Grosvenor began
>sending waves of emails to Warman's personal email address repeating his
>online threats and libel.
>Justice Ratushny described Grosvenor's defamatory postings as "vicious,
>profane and extreme". She found they were made dishonestly and in knowing
>or reckless disregard for the truth, and said it amounted to "highly
>reprehensible misconduct". sHe went on to note the level of hatred and
>anger contained in Grosvenor's threats. Justice Ratushny said Grosvenor's

>efforts to target Warman for violence, including repeatedly providing his
>home address during a two-year period, took them beyond empty threats and
>meant they had to be taken seriously.

Like what you and your accomplices do to Mirelle and Seredin?

>Warman is an Ottawa lawyer who has successfully filed and litigated 14
>cases against members of the white supremacist and neo-Nazi movements
>under the Canadian Human Rights Act provisions prohibiting the spreading
>of hate propaganda through the Internet.
>Responding to the decision, Warman said "I'm hugely relieved that the
>injunction has been granted and hope this will bring an end to this
>two-year long nightmare." He continued, "I wish I had never heard of
>William Grosvenor, but if someone is going to encourage people to kill me
>then I'm going to see what I can do to stop them."

>The terms of the injunction granted by Justice Ratushny at paragraph 92 of
>her judgement reference the submissions of the plaintiff at subparas.
>119(c-f). These sub-paragraphs require Grosvenor to issue a complete
>retraction of the defamatory comments; take all reasonable steps to remove
>them and his threats from the Internet; prohibit him from publishing
>further defamatory material or incitement to violence; and also from
>contacting or communicating with Warman in any way.

>The specific terms are:

>119(c) granting a mandatory injunction requiring the Defendant Mr.
>Grosvenor to make a complete public retraction of the defamatory comments;

>119(d) granting a mandatory injunction requiring Mr. Grosvenor to make all
>reasonable efforts to remove from the internet, the entirety of any and
>all of the internet postings that he has published or caused to be
>published, and which are defamatory to the Plaintiff, and/or which invade
>the Plaintiff's privacy and/or which threaten to harm or kill the
>Plaintiff and/or contain invitations and encouragements to harm or kill
>the Plaintiff, whether by using the Plaintiff's name, nick-name, address,
>photograph or other means of identity;

>119(e) granting a permanent injunction restraining the Defendant Mr.
>Grosvenor, and/or any other persons acting for the Defendant, from
>publishing, causing to be published, posting, or reposting on the internet
>or by any other method or medium, either in Mr. Grosvenor?s own name,
>under any nick-name, pseudonym or aliases that he now uses, has used, or
>may use in the future, any words which are defamatory to the Plaintiff,
>and/or which invade the Plaintiff's privacy and/or which threaten to harm
>or kill the Plaintiff and/or contain invitations and encouragements to
>harm or kill the Plaintiff, whether by using the Plaintiff's name,
>nick-name, address, photograph or other means of identity; and prohibiting
>Mr. Grosvenor from publishing or causing to be published any such words
>about Mr. Warman, anonymously, or in the name of another person;

>199(f) restraining Mr. Grosvenor from contacting or communicating directly
>or indirectly with Mr. Warman, in any way or by any method;

Link to post: http://tinyurl.com/6lbnks


Peace Power

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Crime Watch

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(Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:

>http://www.theglobeandmail.com/


>
>[...]
>
>"Mr. Warman said that Mr. Grosvenor has at least one tangible asset that
>he knows of - a home.
>
>"I never count chickens before they're hatched, but in this case, it is my
>full intent to enforce the judgment," Mr. Warman said.
>
>"I think it sends a very strong message that there are legal consequences
>in any civilized society for stalking another human being and encouraging
>people to murder him over an extended period."
>
>http://www.canada.com/
>

>'Among other things, Mr. Grosvenor published maps showing how to get to
>Mr. Warman's home, described him as a "Dead Jew Walking," and repeatedly
>called for his murder."

Proof Grosvenor did such? Show header information etc. instead of Grosvenor being accused.

Here's some info on your pal Richard Warman:
http://www.socon.ca/or_bust/?p=842

1. UNDER OATH, how can Richard Warman state that he had “no idea” of the specific origin of Exhibit B -
“Jadewarr Welcome” at the Beaumont Hearing when, according to Steacy’s testimony above, Warman knew that
Dean Steacy was, in fact, “jadewarr” before the Beaumont hearing (B.2) and that “jadewarr” was a
Commission account (A.1)?

2. How can Richard Warman state that he had “no idea” of the specific origins of Exhibit B - “Jadewarr
Welcome” on December 12, 2006 at the Beaumont Hearing when Dean Steacy testified that Giacomo Vigna and
Richard Warman were both in his presence as he logged on to his “jadewarr” Stormfront account on December
8, 2006?

http://ezralevant.com/2008/04/richard-warman-misleads-the-ca.html
Richard Warman misleads the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal about "Jadewarr", under oath
By Ezra Levant on April 21, 2008 12:00 PM | Permalink | Comments (49) | Trackback
John Pacheco attended last month’s Canadian Human Rights Tribunal hearing in the Warman v. Lemire case.
That was where Canadian Human Rights Commission staff were grilled about their practice of going onto the
Internet under fake identities, and posting bigoted comments.

Pacheco recorded that hearing himself (the tribunal bizarrely dismissed its court reporter for that one
day) and compared his recording with testimony from the December, 2006, hearing in another one of Richard
Warman’s complaints, against Jessica Beaumont. Besides having the same complainant (Warman) and the same
tribunal chairman (Athanasios Hadjis), the two cases had something else in common: both involved the
CHRC’s secret online identity “Jadewarr”. That’s the alias CHRC investigator Dean Steacy used to sign up
as a member to the white supremacist group, Stormfront, a scandal in itself.

Pacheco’s comparison found a lot of ugly things about how the CHRC does business. But the most striking
fact he discovered was that Warman hid his knowledge of Jadewarr from the tribunal, despite being asked
about it several times under oath.

Pacheco’s site has all the details. http://www.socon.ca/or_bust/?p=842

<snip>

Richard Warman is now suing me and other bloggers for defamation. In his lawsuit, he denies going online
under an alias and posting bigoted comments. Sounds familiar. I wonder what he’ll say “under oath” at our
trial.

http://www.freedomsite.org/legal/CHRC_criminal_complaint.html

Criminal complaint filed against Canadian “Human Rights” Commission for theft of WiFi signals in order to
spy on Canadians and post racist messages on websites

APRIL 2, 2008: Over the past few weeks it has been revealed that employees of the Canadian Human Rights
Commission have been using fake pseudonyms to sign up accounts on websites they have targeted as “hate”
sites. In explosive allegations filed by Marc Lemire with the Ottawa Police Service and the RCMP, not
only were the CHRC spying and posting misinformation on targeted websites – but they connected to the
unsecured wireless access point of an unsuspecting neighbor and impersonated her internet connection to
do it! http://www.freedomsite.org/legal/CHRC_hacks_wifi.html

After 10 months of litigation due to absurd claims of "national security" by a panic stricken CHRC, and a
blizzard of legal motions, Marc Lemire won the right for a subpoena of the records of Bell Canada to
reveal the subscriber information of "Jadewarr" an account used on the White Nationalist Stormfront.org
website by CHRC employees.

The "Jadewarr" character had tried to entrap Marc Lemire and others. A few months ago it was revealed at
the Federal Court of Canada that the "Jadewarr" account was used by numerous CHRC employees, but
primarily by a Senior Investigator named Dean Steacy.

Alain Monfette, director of the law enforcement support team for Bell Canada , was called by Marc Lemire
pursuant to a subpoena to bring the subscriber information of the person using the “Jadewarr” account on
Stormfront.

Mr. Monfette testified on March 25, 2008 that the Bell Canada subscriber using IP address 70.48.181.203
on Dec 8, 2006 (connected for the entire day) was: Nelly Hechme. Of Laurier Avenue in Ottawa .

It is now becoming crystal clear why the Human Rights Commission had so strenuously fought the issuance
of the subpoena after their last minute capitulation before we went to Federal Court, January 15 to
challenge their invoking Sec. 37 of the Canada Evidence Act. Once having claimed the information would
endanger either "national security" or the safety of a person, the Commission threw up its hands and
admitted the "jadewarr" pseudonym trolling Stormfront (and, it would turn out, on many other conservative
and nationalist forums) was none other than their blind lead "hate" investigator Dean Steacy.

So, if the subpoenaed Bell Canada information would reveal that the IP address of "Jadewarr" was a
Canadian Human Rights Commission address, why fight the subpoena? Now we know the "Jadewarr"" address was
not at the CHRC. The plot now thickened and the depths of Commission skullduggery and subterfuge got even
skankier.

During later testimony Dean Steacy claimed he to had no knowledge of who Nelly Hechme was or how that
person got access to the "Jadewarr" account on Stormfront.

Later that evening, the National Post's Joe Brean called Nelly Hechme and asked what she knew about this.
The poor Nelly was shocked. I am sure it's a pretty odd day when the National Post calls and asks if
you're a government agent posting racist messages on the Stormfront website, especially when you have no
idea what Stormfront even is.

ON March 26, 2008, The National Post in a front page story reported: "Reached by phone last night, Ms.
Hechme, 26, told the National Post she has no connection to the tribunal, has never known any of the
investigators, and has never accessed a Web site as Jadewarr. She said that in the relevant period in
2006 she did have a Bell Sympatico account with a wireless connection that was not password controlled,
meaning anyone within range of her apartment could have accessed the internet with it."

<snip>

RELEVANT CRIMINAL CODE PROVISIONS:

Mischief in relation to data

430. (1.1) Every one commits mischief who wilfully

(c) obstructs, interrupts or interferes with the lawful use of data; or

(d) obstructs, interrupts or interferes with any person in the lawful use of data or denies access to
data to any person who is entitled to access thereto.

Unauthorized use of computer

342.1 (1) Every one who, fraudulently and without colour of right,

(a) obtains, directly or indirectly, any computer service,

(b) by means of an electro-magnetic, acoustic, mechanical or other device, intercepts or causes to be
intercepted, directly or indirectly, any function of a computer system,

Theft of telecommunication service

326. (1) Every one commits theft who fraudulently, maliciously, or without colour of right,

(b) uses any telecommunication facility or obtains any telecommunication service.

<snip>

ALLEGATION:

On December 8, 2006 at 3:29pm (EST) Dean Steacy and/or John Chamberlin and/or Sandy Kozak, used the
pseudonym “Jadewarr” to access the Stormfront.Org website. In order to hide their identity, the
respondents wilfully and with malicious intent connected to the wireless access point of Nelly Heckme,
without her knowledge and/or approval, in violation of Canadian law.

PARTICULARS:

On December 8, 2006 at 3:29pm, (EST), Dean Steacy, an investigator at the Canadian Human Rights
Commission logged onto the Stormfront.Org website using the pseudonym “Jadewarr” to print off a post
entitled “Italy for Italians” This print out was entered into evidence by the Canadian Human Rights
Commission (CHRC), during a hearing before the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal (Tribunal), File No.
T1106/8705, on December 12, 2006. ( Beaumont case)

On December 8, 2006 at 3:29pm (EST) Dean Steacy and/or John Chamberlin and/or Sandy Kozak, used the
pseudonym “Jadewarr” to access the Stormfront.Org website. In order to hide their identity, the
respondents wilfully and with malicious intent connected to the wireless access point of Nelly Heckme,
without her knowledge and/or approval, in violation of Canadian law.

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http://tinyurl.com/5gpxm9
Richard Warman Misleads the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal Under Oath, Charges Ezra Levant
By Ezra Levant on April 21, 2008

John Pacheco attended last month's Canadian Human Rights Tribunal hearing in the Warman v. Lemire case.
That was where Canadian Human Rights Commission staff were grilled about their practice of going onto the
Internet under fake identities, and posting bigoted comments.

[[Manufacturing of Evidence comes to my mind as I read the above.]]

Pacheco recorded that hearing himself (the tribunal bizarrely dismissed its court reporter for that one
day) and compared his recording with testimony from the December, 2006, hearing in another one of Richard
Warman's complaints, against Jessica Beaumont. Besides having the same complainant (Warman) and the same
tribunal chairman (Athanasios Hadjis), the two cases had something else in common: both involved the
CHRC's secret online identity "Jadewarr". That's the alias CHRC investigator Dean Steacy used to sign up
as a member to the white supremacist group, Stormfront, a scandal in itself.

Pacheco's comparison found a lot of ugly things about how the CHRC does business. But the most striking
fact he discovered was that Warman hid his knowledge of Jadewarr from the tribunal, despite being asked
about it several times under oath.

Pacheco's site has all the details. But here's a summary:

One of the pieces of evidence against Jessica Beaumont was this print-out from the Stormfront website
that the CHRC submitted to the tribunal. But after the CHRC disclosed that print-out, they realized that
it said "Welcome, Jadewarr" on the corner of it – giving away the fact that the CHRC had logged in as a
member of Stormfront. That blew Steacy's secret cover. To hide his tracks, the CHRC switched the
"Welcome, Jadewarr" print-out with a generic print-out of the same page from the Stormfront website,
without the words "Welcome, Jadewarr" on it.

On December 12, 2006, the tribunal chairman, Hadjis, was trying to figure out the difference between the
two versions of the Stormfront document, to understand why the CHRC wanted to switch the original
evidence with a new version. Here's what Warman, and the CHRC lawyer, Giacomo Vigna, said when asked
about the documents:

THE CHAIRPERSON: I'm sorry, I'm a little confused here...

MR. VIGNA: The layout, when you look at it, it might seem different, but if you look at the contents it's
pretty much the same.

THE CHAIRPERSON: Right.

That's a scandal in itself – Vigna knew the difference between the two documents, and he knew why he
wanted to switch them, but instead of revealing what he knew, he glossed over the difference between the
two documents, calling them "pretty much the same". That's unethical. But what about Warman?

MR. VIGNA: Perhaps, Mr. Warman, you can explain it.

THE CHAIRPERSON: Yes, perhaps you can explain it.

MR. WARMAN: Sure.

THE CHAIRPERSON: I do see that the content is similar. It's got the poem in it, but how come the layout
is different, as Mr. Vigna has indicated?

MR. WARMAN: Sure. I will happily explain. The first one is a Commission document. The second one is a
document that was printed off in my presence on Friday.

THE CHAIRPERSON: So, the second document was available on the Internet and printed off?

MR. WARMAN: Yes, on Friday.

THE CHAIRPERSON: On Friday.

MR. WARMAN: So, if it's more appropriate, we can withdraw the first one and simply tender the second one.

Warman does the same as Vigna – he doesn't disclose the difference between the documents, other than when
they were each printed. But that's not the real difference, was it? That's not why they switched it -- a
switch that Warman himself suggests.

Later on, Warman was asked about the "Welcome, Jadewarr" print-out again:

MR. FROMM: …what's the origin of it?

MR. WARMAN: I don't know.

THE CHAIRPERSON: You don't know now but you mentioned earlier that it was from the Commission. That's
what I heard you say.

MR. WARMAN: It originates in the broadest sense with the Commission.

THE CHAIRPERSON: So the Commission had produced this photocopy?

MR. WARMAN: Yes, but in terms of its specific origins, I have no idea.

That must have sounded a little bit strange: how could Warman have "no idea" about its specific origins,
even though he said the generic replica of it was printed off in his presence the previous Friday?
Hadjis, impatient as usual, let it pass.

Warman was asked again about the "Welcome, Jadewarr" version:

MR. FROMM: Can you explain what that is, "Welcome, Jadewarr?

MR. WARMAN: It appears to be a name that was logged in under.

MR. FROMM: By whom?

MR. WARMAN: I'm sorry, I don't know.

Warman's testimony is pretty clear: he swore he didn't know who logged in as Jadewarr on the original
print-out, and he didn't know its "specific origins".

The Beaumont hearing slouched onwards, and the strange matter of the switched evidence was forgotten. But
Warman's next case was against Marc Lemire, the webmaster of Stormfront. Lemire suspected something, and
made a much bigger fuss about Jadewarr. In December, 2007, a year after Warman's testimony in the
Beaumont case, Steacy finally admitted he was Jadewarr in the Lemire case.

But it wasn't until the March, 2008 hearing, when Steacy was cross-examined, that the whole truth came
out – and that Warman's testimony was exposed as misleading.

Steacy testified that Warman knew exactly who Jadewarr was, and he knew it well before the Beaumont
hearing. Here's Pacheco's audio clip of Steacy testifying to that effect:

Since Steacy admitted he was Jadewarr, it's not surprising to learn that Warman knew about it. Warman and
Steacy had worked together, not just as colleagues at the CHRC where they were both "hate" investigators,
but as "client" and "service provider", when Warman filed a complaint and Steacy investigated it (a
conflict of interest and another scandal). The two men were pretty cosy. In fact, Steacy told the March,
2008 hearing that everyone who knew who Jadewarr was knew the password, too – presumably, that included
Warman.

But compare Steacy's testimony in 2008 to what Pacheco dug up from Warman's testimony in December, 2006:

MR. FROMM: Can you explain what that is, "Welcome, Jadewarr?

MR. WARMAN: It appears to be a name that was logged in under.

MR. FROMM: By whom?

MR. WARMAN: I'm sorry, I don't know.

Warman swore he didn't know who logged in as Jadewarr. But Steacy testified that Warman indeed knew who
Jadewarr was.

Details about the group print-out of second, generic version of the document were discussed in the March,
2008, hearing too.

Steacy told the tribunal that he, Warman and CHRC lawyer Giacomo Vigna all got together. They logged in
under Steacy's Stormfront membership, Jadewarr, because, as Steacy testified, they had trouble finding
the page otherwise. Here's a record of that log-in by Steacy. Note the date: December 8, 2006, the date
Warman said the document was printed out in his presence.

We don't even need Steacy's corroboration – Warman himself admitted that it was a group print-out. But
from Steacy we learn who the group was, why the group was assembled and what they were trying to do.

Back in December, 2006, Warman's vague answers were confusing. But in the light of the March, 2008
hearing, we see it was more than confusing, it was misleading. They were trying to keep Jadewarr's
identity a secret – even though they had an obligation to disclose that information to both Lemire and
the tribunal, and another obligation to answer questions about it honestly.

"I have no idea" said Warman. "I don't know." But he did know.

The truth – as revealed 15 months later – was that Warman did "have an idea". He "did know". But instead
of answering honestly under oath, he misled the tribunal.

I just can't get that Johnny Cash song out of my mind – "as sure as God made black and white, what's done
in the dark will be brought to the light."

Richard Warman is now suing me and other bloggers for defamation. In his lawsuit, he denies going online
under an alias and posting bigoted comments.

Warman, Steacy, and "Jadewarr"
Posted 4/21/2008 8:00:00 PM
am770chqr.com

While Richard Warman may have issues with a whole host of conservative bloggers, perhaps Mr. Warman's
biggest problem at the moment is his old pal Dean Steacy.

Mr. Warman, of course, if the former Canadian Human Rights Commission investigator who left the CHRC and
became a frequent complainant, brining forth a number of complaints, including one recently against Marc
Lemire.

It was in the course of the complaint against Marc Lemire that CHRC investigator Dean Steacy found
himself answering questions under oath. As detailed here, those questions concerned the investigative
practices of CHRC staff; specifically whether they used online pseudonyms to post comments on far-right
and neo-Nazi websites.

As it turns out, that March 25th hearing may prove embarrassing and damaging to Mr. Warman. Mr. Steacy
was on the stand discussing his use of the pseudonym "Jadewarr" to log on and post at Stormfront.org.

As detailed by Ezra Levant (who is among those being sued by Warman), an admission made under oath by
Steacy would seem to directly contradict a statement made under oath by Warman.

This may prove to be interesting, because at the heart of the lawsuit against Levant and the other
bloggers is Warman's denial of an accusation that he posted controversial remarks on a website under a
pseudonym.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Looks like Richard Warman has shown himself to be dishonest and an accomplice to identity theft.
Knowing Warman to have engaged in the above detailed escapades only makes me that more sure that what he
did to Grosvenor was cut from the same cloth. Look what was done to Jadewarr and Warman presenting
"evidence" Grosvenor did as he was accused of doing. I have read the document Kenneth McVay is
circulating as a PDF and not once in it was any substantial proof such as header information, Grosvenor's
ISP logs etc.


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(Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:

>http


http://www.canadianhumanrightscommission.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=45:jonathan-kay-on-richard-warman-and-canadas-phony-racism-industry&catid=36:warman&Itemid=55
http://tinyurl.com/6xo3eu

Richard Warman and Canada's phony-racism industry
Posted: February 18, 2008, 1:14 PM by Jonathan Kay
Jonathan Kay | National Post

Canadians now know the precise moment when radical anti-racism became a more powerful sociological toxin
than racism itself: 7:55pm EST on Sept. 5, 2003.

That is the date-stamp on a particularly vile posting, left by an anonymous user on the message board of
the right-wing web site freedomsite.org, attacking Canada’s first black senator. It read as follows: “Not
only is Canadian Senator Anne Cools is a Negro, she is also an immigrant! And she is also one helluva
preachy c*nt. She does NOT belong in my Canada.

My Anglo-Germanic people were here before there was a Canada and her kind have jumped in, polluted our
race, and forced their bullshit down our throats. Time to go back to when the women *** imports knew
their place … And that place was NOT in public!”

Horrible, shocking stuff. But even more shocking is the identity of the fellow whose electronic
fingerprints were all over the message: famed Canadian human-rights lawyer Richard Warman.

[[Looks like Richard Warman is very capable of manufacturing evidence. Compare what Dishonest Richard
Warman has done as documented here to what he did to William Grosvenor.]]

Warman is a legend in anti-racism circles. A former member of the Canadian Human Rights Commission, he’s
launched countless complaints against right-wing extremists, and won almost all of them. But during
proceedings surrounding one of Warman’s 2003-era complaints against freedomsite, the respondents turned
the tables. A computer expert named Bernard Klatt did some digging under freedomsite’s back office, and
determined that the Cools posting had been made from a computer bearing the IP address 66.185.84.204, the
very same address from which Warman had admitted to visiting freedomsite using a different alias.

Other technical details – such as the operating system and Web browser being used – also provided an
exact match to Warman. Based on this evidence, Klatt concluded in a recently publicized affidavit,
“Richard Warman was the poster of the message headed ‘Cools don’t belong in our Senate.’ ”

Does this mean Warman is a closet bigot? I doubt it. What seems more likely is that – like other
anti-racism activists – Warman simply found himself running out of Aryan Nation types to chase around the
Internet. And so, under this theory, he decided to just start typing the stuff up on his own computer –
and then added these self-authored “racist” postings to his blunderbuss brief against freedomsite. (As
Klatt notes, Warman has been accused of perpetrating the same sort of stunts on other right-wing Web
sites.) When you’ve got profitable hate-speech cases to prosecute, why wait for some unemployed
conspiracy theorist to start raving against immigrants when you can just manufacture the evidence
yourself?

Bizarre as this episode may be, it is of a piece with a larger trend – symbolized, south of the border,
by the shamefully trumped up case against the Duke University lacrosse team. The anti-racism industry,
running out of legitimate hatemongers to go after, has gone rogue in its search for attention and
relevance.

It also raises the question: How many other faux-racist frauds are out there? Thanks to Warman, it's a
question I now think about every time a Canadian hate-speech activist or blogger publicizes an email he
gets from some whitep...@hotmail.comThis e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need
JavaScript enabled to view it or other. These poisonous messages are held up as dramatic proof that there
are still plenty of Nazi types out there – and that without hate-speech laws to shut them up, the
country’s gays, Jews, Black and Arabs will remain at risk of verbal assault, or worse. But if the picking
are so slim that anti-racists have slid into second careers as fiction writers, what does that say about
the scale of the problem? How many of the other examples of “hate” that you see out there are similarly
bogus?

The anti-racism industry has become an industry like any other: As the actual need for what its peddling
has diminished in this extraordinarily tolerant nation, the industry’s various profiteers and carnival
barkers have created myths and exaggerated fears to prop themselves up.

As I’ve written before, this would not be so much a problem if their various speech codes were used
merely to prosecute men such as David Ahenakew, Ernst Zundel, Jim Keegstra and the like. But in the
post-9/11 era, radical anti-racists are also agitating to shut up sensible people saying sensible things
about the war against militant Islam, the defining global struggle of our era. They’re also giving
comfort to Islamists who seek to carve out sectarian taboos from our hallowed tradition of free speech.

All of this would be destructive enough on its own. When the censors start churning out the hate speech
themselves – that makes them as much a farce as a menace.

END

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Honest people hope Richard Warman will be prosecuted for his identity thefts, manufacturing of evidence
and testimony which for all appearences is perjurious.


Peace Power

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wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:21:02 -0500, <8pCdncUiicmT8mLVnZ2dnUVZ_tHin...@vex.net>, kmc...@shell.vex.net

> (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
> >'Among other things, Mr. Grosvenor published maps showing how to get to
> >Mr. Warman's home, described him as a "Dead Jew Walking," and repeatedly
> >called for his murder."

> Proof Grosvenor did such? Show header information etc. instead of Grosvenor being accused.

Exactly.

> Here's some info on your pal Richard Warman:http://www.socon.ca/or_bust/?p=842

Scandalous.

> Pacheco’s site has all the details.http://www.socon.ca/or_bust/?p=842


>
> <snip>
>
> Richard Warman is now suing me and other bloggers for defamation. In his lawsuit, he denies going online
> under an alias and posting bigoted comments. Sounds familiar. I wonder what he’ll say “under oath” at our
> trial.
>
> http://www.freedomsite.org/legal/CHRC_criminal_complaint.html
>
> Criminal complaint filed against Canadian “Human Rights” Commission for theft of WiFi signals in order to
> spy on Canadians and post racist messages on websites
>
> APRIL 2, 2008:  Over the past few weeks it has been revealed that employees of the Canadian Human Rights
> Commission have been using fake pseudonyms to sign up accounts on websites they have targeted as “hate”
> sites.  In explosive allegations filed by Marc Lemire with the Ottawa Police Service and the RCMP, not
> only were the CHRC spying and posting misinformation on targeted websites – but they connected to the
> unsecured wireless access point of an unsuspecting neighbor and impersonated her internet connection to

> do it!http://www.freedomsite.org/legal/CHRC_hacks_wifi.html

> day) and compared his recording with ...
>
> read more »

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Peace Power

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wrote:

> Honest people hope Richard Warman will be prosecuted for his identity thefts, manufacturing of evidence
> and testimony which for all appearances is perjurious.

Indeed.
> On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:21:02 -0500, <8pCdncUiicmT8mLVnZ2dnUVZ_tHin...@vex.net>, kmc...@shell.vex.net


>
> (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
> >http
>

> http://www.canadianhumanrightscommission.com/index.php?option=com_con...http://tinyurl.com/6xo3eu

> gets from some whitepowe...@hotmail.comThis e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need


> JavaScript enabled to view it or other. These poisonous messages are held up as dramatic proof that there
> are still plenty of Nazi types out there – and that without hate-speech laws to shut them up, the
> country’s gays, Jews, Black and Arabs will remain at risk of verbal assault, or worse. But if the picking
> are so slim that anti-racists have slid into second careers as fiction writers, what does that say about
> the scale of the problem? How many of the other examples of “hate” that you see out there are similarly
> bogus?
>
> The anti-racism industry has become an industry like any other: As the actual need for what its peddling
> has diminished in this extraordinarily tolerant nation, the industry’s various profiteers and carnival
> barkers have created myths and exaggerated fears to prop themselves up.
>
> As I’ve written before, this would not be so much a problem if their various speech codes were used
> merely to prosecute men such as David Ahenakew, Ernst Zundel, Jim Keegstra and the like. But in the
> post-9/11 era, radical anti-racists are also agitating to shut up sensible people saying sensible things
> about the war against militant Islam, the defining global struggle of our era. They’re also giving
> comfort to Islamists who seek to carve out sectarian taboos from our hallowed tradition of free speech.
>
> All of this would be destructive enough on its own. When the censors start churning out the hate speech
> themselves – that makes them as much a farce as a menace.
>
> END
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Honest people hope Richard Warman will be prosecuted for his identity thefts, manufacturing of evidence

> and testimony which for all appearances is perjurious.

Robert Weldon

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"Peace Power" <anam...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Edmonton Journal, Wednesday, October 22, page A5. So stop defending
Grosvenor, you loon.


Non relevant stuff snipped.


Compare what your co-hort did as reported in an Oklahoma newspaper: “I
am God, and I also still have my
Ruger P-90 and it has a bullet with your name on it,” to what you and
Warman falsely accuse Mr. Grosvenor
as sending Warman: "I AM GOD AND I HAVE A RUGER P-90 AND IT'S BULLETS
HAVE YOUR NAME ON
THEM FAGBOY WARMAN?." [sic] Where are the headers? Where is the real
proof? It is well known that both
you (Kenneth McVay) and Steven "Caduceus" Horn hate Bill Grosvenor so
I see a great possibility there has
been a conspiracy to frame Bill Grosvenor. You and your fellows have
never forged anyone or fabricated
evidence against your opponents have you?

Something certainly looks very fishy to me.

Why don't you do some research before you make a fool of yourself?

>In her decision issued 20 October 2008, Justice Lynn Ratushny found that
>despite Grosvenor having filed papers saying he intended to defend the
>civil suit, he never did and was thus deemed to have admitted the
>allegations against him. Instead of defending the action, the day after
>being served with the statement of claim on 15 Jan. 2008 , Grosvenor began
>sending waves of emails to Warman's personal email address repeating his
>online threats and libel.
>Justice Ratushny described Grosvenor's defamatory postings as "vicious,
>profane and extreme". She found they were made dishonestly and in knowing
>or reckless disregard for the truth, and said it amounted to "highly
>reprehensible misconduct". sHe went on to note the level of hatred and
>anger contained in Grosvenor's threats. Justice Ratushny said Grosvenor's

>efforts to target Warman for violence, including repeatedly providing his
>home address during a two-year period, took them beyond empty threats and
>meant they had to be taken seriously.

Like what you and your accomplices do to Mirelle and Seredin?

Do some research, the judgement is valid.

>The specific terms are:

follow the links, they lead to the actual judgement.


Robert Weldon

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> On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:21:02 -0500,
> <8pCdncUiicmT8mLV...@vex.net>, kmc...@shell.vex.net
> (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>
>>http://www.theglobeandmail.com/
>>
>>[...]
>>
>>"Mr. Warman said that Mr. Grosvenor has at least one tangible asset that
>>he knows of - a home.
>>
>>"I never count chickens before they're hatched, but in this case, it is my
>>full intent to enforce the judgment," Mr. Warman said.
>>
>>"I think it sends a very strong message that there are legal consequences
>>in any civilized society for stalking another human being and encouraging
>>people to murder him over an extended period."
>>
>>http://www.canada.com/
>>
>>'Among other things, Mr. Grosvenor published maps showing how to get to
>>Mr. Warman's home, described him as a "Dead Jew Walking," and repeatedly
>>called for his murder."
>
> Proof Grosvenor did such? Show header information etc. instead of
> Grosvenor being accused.

Go to Edmonton Journal, do search on Grosvenor, it links to the story. Was
on Wednesday, Oct. 21.

-crap snipped

Crime Watch

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On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:54:33 -0600, <Te0Mk.9939$ys6....@newsfe02.iad>, "Robert Weldon" <rob...@live.ca>
wrote:

I have the PDF file from the trial (which Kenneth McVay illegally distributed) in my possession and it
has not one iota bit of evidence Grosvenor did as accused. Are you able to provide header info and ISP
logs to prove Grosvenor did as accused?

Proofs Richard Warman is a dishonest person who manufactures evidence used in his prosecutions.

http://www.canadianhumanrightscommission.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=53:sent-to-senator-cools-and-all-members-of-parliament&catid=36:warman&Itemid=55
http://tinyurl.com/5qnun2

Sent to Senator Cools and ALL Members of Parliament:
Dear Senator Cools;

I'm certain you are aware of the controversy arising from two cases which are under consideration by
various federal and provincial 'Human Rights' commissions or tribunals, the first being a complaint
against Western Standard publisher, Ezra Levant and the other against Maclean's Magazine and writer Mark
Steyn.

As the Canadian Civil Liberties Association’s Alan Borovoy recently wrote, “During the years when my
colleagues and I were labouring to create such commissions, we never imagined that they might ultimately
be used against freedom of speech.” This, despite the fact that many warned of exactly such an event. As
you'll know, the HRC's were enacted to protect individuals from discrimination in such factual matters as
equal right to housing and employment. But we Canadians are largely a tolerant lot and since few of us
are inclined to discriminate, the bureaucrats of the HRC's, finding themselves underemployed and
naturally inclined to gathering power, have now included such inalienable rights as free speech to be
part of their regulatory purview. The result is that one of, if not the most fundamental rights in a free
society is under attack by the state itself.

An example of the power of the state run amok now apparently, involves yourself. I refer to a September
5, 2003 internet posting by an individual posting under the name '90sAREover' on a 'Freedomsite Forum' in
which you are referered to as:

“Not only is Canadian Senator Anne Cools is a Negro, she is also an immigrant!
And she is also one helluva preachy c*nt.
She does NOT belong in my Canada. My Anglo-Germanic people were here before
there was a Canada and her kind have jumped in, polluted our race, and forced
their bullshit down our throats.

Time to go back to when the women nigger imports knew their place…


And that place was NOT in public!

Allegedly the poster, under the username '90sAREover' is none other than Richard Warman. Mr. Warman is a
Toronto lawyer and 'human rights activist' who on behalf of only himself, has laid 26 complaints to HRC's
- more than all other complaints combined. Even though Mr. Warman had no 'personal stake' in the nature
of the alleged hateful writings or comments, his complaints were heard, the 'defendants' convicted, and
Mr. Warman was awarded sums of money. And as you'll undoubtably also know, Mr. Warman - unlike the
defendant - had all costs paid for by the state or, to put it bluntly, we taxpayers.

Mr. Warman was previously an employee of the Canadian Human Rights Commission from July 2002 to March
2004. In other words, while working as an agent of the state, Mr. Warman also acted as an agent
provocateur, soliciting hateful comments from other posters who could then face the wrath of the
commission for whom he worked. Mr. Warman has apparently also misused his power by posting similarly
under the username 'Lucy'. In testimony beginning January 29, 2007 Richard Warman admitted under oath in
Canadian Human Rights Tribunal hearing (Case T1073/5405) that he was, in fact, the poster named 'lucy'
who had registered on the Freedomsite (and other) forums.

Mr. Warman is not the only 'mole' within the HRC's who is abusing the power accorded him by the state.
Senior CHRC “human rights investigator” Dean Steacy, who once said that “freedom of speech is an
”American concept“. previously posted at a white nationalist website called Stormfront and posts under
the name ”Jadwarr“

Under section 13, two small words comprising just eight letters, give absolute power to the state, a
power that is completely contrary to the Magna Carta and 800 years of British jurisprudence and
tradition. Those words are 'likely to' and they are weilded as a weapon against those who would dare to
utter anything not expressly approved by the state. They move the question from fact to conjecture and
allow bureaucrats of the state to determine whether what lies in the hearts and minds of Canadian
citizens is acceptable to the state, as defined by the self-same bureaucrats. Which perhaps explains the
perfect conviction rate against those who face the star chamber tribunals.

I note the irony of current HRC investigator and lawyer Shirlene McGovern, saying to Mr. Levant, "you're
entitled to your opinion". To which Mr. Levant of course replied, "That's not true. If that were the case
I wouldn't be sitting before you today."


I am calling upon you and your collegues in the Senate, as well as our Members of Parliament to examine
the issues of the 'human rights' processe in Canada. Furthermore, I call upon you to reaffirm the
fundamental rights of all Canadians to freedom of speech - even distasteful, abhorrent speech with which
we personally disagree. The tribunals must be reined in if not disbanded. My uncle and hundreds of
thousands like him, died at a tender young age, in defense of our freedom to not just say what is
palatable to all, but even to offend or be offended and I ask you now, to help us ensure that my uncle,
Peter Biollo, dead at 21 as a bombardier in France, did not die in vain.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

http://www.canadianhumanrightscommission.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=45:jonathan-kay-on-richard-warman-and-canadas-phony-racism-industry&catid=36:warman&Itemid=55

yourself?...

Robert Weldon

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Really, the judge didn't seem to have that problem. Guess he isn't a loon
like you.

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Peace Power

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wrote:

> I have the PDF file from the trial (which Kenneth McVay illegally distributed) in my possession and it
> has not one iota bit of evidence Grosvenor did as accused. Are you able to provide header info and ISP
> logs to prove Grosvenor did as accused?

Exactly.
There is no evidence that William Grosvenor
was the person who wrote the e-mails and
posted the alleged posts. The document that
McVay illegally posted clearly states that it was
done via anonymous re-mailers.
Also, because allegedly, a certain paper was
not filed by William Grosvenor, is the ONLY
reason the judge made the decision she did.
No computer evidence that it came from
William Grosvenor's computer.
Not one shred of proof such as header information,
William Grosvenor's ISP logs... NOTHING.
Exact wording that Steve Horn used -- where there
WAS computer evidence that indeed, it was Steve Horn
who made the threats.Steve Horn has been forging
William Grosvenor for years. It is possible that it was
Steve Horn who made the anonymous posts and sent
the e-mails via an anonymous re-mailer. After all,
like I said, the wording is EXACTLY the same wording
Steve Horn used. This ruling only proves it was done
by a kangaroo-court, ruling simply because a certain
paper was allegedly not filed, therefore, the
*alleged evidence* Richard WAR_MAN presented
did not get scrutinized, the assumption was made
that it came from William Grosvenor.
Assumptions are not what law is about.
Kangaroo court.
My guess is WAR_MAN most likely knew the judge.
"A good lawyer knows the law, a successful lawyer knows the judge."

> On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:54:33 -0600, <Te0Mk.9939$ys6.1...@newsfe02.iad>, "Robert Weldon" <robo...@live.ca>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >"Crime Watch" <CrimeWa...@SayNo2CriminalThugs.net> wrote in message


> >news:dcvuf4plvmt1n7asv...@4ax.com...
> >> On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:21:02 -0500,

> >> <8pCdncUiicmT8mLVnZ2dnUVZ_tHin...@vex.net>, kmc...@shell.vex.net


> >> (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>
> >>>http://www.theglobeandmail.com/
>
> >>>[...]
>
> >>>"Mr. Warman said that Mr. Grosvenor has at least one tangible asset that
> >>>he knows of - a home.
>
> >>>"I never count chickens before they're hatched, but in this case, it is my
> >>>full intent to enforce the judgment," Mr. Warman said.
>
> >>>"I think it sends a very strong message that there are legal consequences
> >>>in any civilized society for stalking another human being and encouraging
> >>>people to murder him over an extended period."
>
> >>>http://www.canada.com/
>
> >>>'Among other things, Mr. Grosvenor published maps showing how to get to
> >>>Mr. Warman's home, described him as a "Dead Jew Walking," and repeatedly
> >>>called for his murder."
>
> >> Proof Grosvenor did such? Show header information etc. instead of
> >> Grosvenor being accused.
>
> >Go to Edmonton Journal, do search on Grosvenor, it links to the story.  Was
> >on Wednesday, Oct. 21.
>
> >-crap snipped
>
> I have the PDF file from the trial (which Kenneth McVay illegally distributed) in my possession and it
> has not one iota bit of evidence Grosvenor did as accused. Are you able to provide header info and ISP
> logs to prove Grosvenor did as accused?
>
> Proofs Richard Warman is a dishonest person who manufactures evidence used in his prosecutions.
>

> http://www.canadianhumanrightscommission.com/index.php?option=com_con...http://tinyurl.com/5qnun2

> http://www.canadianhumanrightscommission.com/index.php?option=com_con...http://tinyurl.com/6xo3eu

> Klatt notes, Warman has been accused of perpetrating ...
>
> read more »

Flushing A. Grosvomit

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Are you stating for the record that Mr. Warman is guilty of
involvement in identity theft?


William Grosvenor

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Warman v. Me Judgment

Ontario Superior Court of Justice, October 21, 2008
For two years, I engaged in a virtual campaign of terror against Ottawa
human rights lawyer Richard Warman. I bombarded the Internet with calls to

murder Warman while providing his home address, and links to pictures of him
and Google maps on how to get to his crib. Combined with this were hundreds

of online postings attempting to destroy Warman's personal and professional
reputation.
Now a judge of the Ontario Superior Court of Justice has granted an
injunction to put an end to it and has awarded Warman $50,000 in damages for
defamation and assault, the latter stemming from my death threats and
incitement to violence. My threats of violence repeatedly called for

Warman's murder, described him as a "Dead Jew walking", and said: "I AM GOD
AND I HAVE A RUGER P-90 AND IT'S BULLETS HAVE YOUR NAME ON THEM FAGBOY
WARMAN?." [sic] (I am nothing if not stupid.)

In her decision issued 20 October 2008, Justice Lynn Ratushny found that

despite my having filed papers saying I intended to defend the civil suit, I
never did (I am a coward) and was thus deemed to have admitted the
allegations against me. Instead of defending the action, the day after being
served with the statement of claim on 15 Jan. 2008 , I began sending waves


of emails to Warman's personal email address repeating his online threats
and libel.

Justice Ratushny described my defamatory postings as "vicious, profane and


extreme". She found they were made dishonestly and in knowing or reckless
disregard for the truth, and said it amounted to "highly reprehensible

misconduct". She went on to note the level of hatred and anger contained in
my threats. Justice Ratushny said my efforts to target Warman for violence,


including repeatedly providing his home address during a two-year period,
took them beyond empty threats and meant they had to be taken seriously.

Warman is an Ottawa lawyer who has successfully filed and litigated 14


cases against members of the white supremacist and neo-Nazi movements under
the Canadian Human Rights Act provisions prohibiting the spreading of hate

propaganda through the Internet. I am a monumental asshole living in
Edmonton, Alberta.

The terms of the injunction granted by Justice Ratushny at paragraph 92 of
her judgement reference the submissions of the plaintiff at subparas.

119(c-f). These sub-paragraphs require me to issue a complete retraction of
the defamatory comments; take all reasonable steps to remove them and my
threats from the Internet; prohibit me from publishing further defamatory


material or incitement to violence; and also from contacting or
communicating with Warman in any way.

The specific terms are:

119(c) granting a mandatory injunction requiring me to make a complete


public retraction of the defamatory comments;

119(d) granting a mandatory injunction requiring me to make all reasonable


efforts to remove from the internet, the entirety of any and all of the
internet postings that he has published or caused to be published, and which
are defamatory to the Plaintiff, and/or which invade the Plaintiff's privacy
and/or which threaten to harm or kill the Plaintiff and/or contain
invitations and encouragements to harm or kill the Plaintiff, whether by
using the Plaintiff's name, nick-name, address, photograph or other means of
identity;

119(e) granting a permanent injunction restraining me, and/or any other
persons acting for me, from publishing, causing to be published, posting, or
reposting on the internet or by any other method or medium, either in my own
name, under any nick-name, pseudonym or sock puppet that I now use, have


used, or may use in the future, any words which are defamatory to the
Plaintiff, and/or which invade the Plaintiff's privacy and/or which threaten
to harm or kill the Plaintiff and/or contain invitations and encouragements
to harm or kill the Plaintiff, whether by using the Plaintiff's name,
nick-name, address, photograph or other means of identity; and prohibiting

me from publishing or causing to be published any such words about Mr.


Warman, anonymously, or in the name of another person;

199(f) restraining me from contacting or communicating directly or


indirectly with Mr. Warman, in any way or by any method;

I'm fucked.

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