Re: The Death of Rebezar Tarzs
Rich
"MZee" <wysmi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Rebezar Tarzs died on December 30, 2007 at 1:16 AM EST.
wernertrp
> ur funny.
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It's not necessary to let him die because he never lived.
MZee
Whether real or...imaginary, Rebazar Tarzs died on December 30, 2007
Rich
"MZee" <wysmi...@gmail.com> wrote
On Jan 5, 9:14 am, wernertrp <schubert-...@t-online.de> wrote:
> On 4 Jan., 04:14, "Rich" <deadm...@inorbit.com> wrote:
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> It's not necessary to let him die because he never lived.
Whether real or...imaginary, Rebazar Tarzs died on December 30, 2007
at 1:16 AM EST.
Rich:
OK I'll play.
Who told you that? What is your source?
Where did they say it happened? Who was there? What was the cause of death?
rno...@aol.com
> "MZee" <wysmier...@gmail.com> wrote
Rebezar has lived for hundreds of years on this planet - - opting to
walk much of the time in the physical body but traveling *all* the
worlds and dimensions. If and when He chooses to walk away from the
planet Earth - - He may choose to do so at any time - - for His own
reasons. But He can "come back" and "visit" this same planet any time
He wishes - - just as He travels all the dimensions / worlds now. What
point is it to claim that He has "died" - - except to disclaim and
weaken the teachings of Eckankar?
Rich
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Rich:
That's a possibility. Another is that this is an internet troll casting
bait. Another that it is not uncommon, is that some are in various states
of unbalance. With things like these you can't be sure what kind of person
is behind the screen name. Could be substance abuse. Could be an eleven year
old. If brains were boats some of these would just be a little dingy. ;-)
Guess which kind I am?... You can choose more than one.:-D
Seriously, they don't weaken anything but themselves.
The best thing to do is give them love in whatever way works for you.
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MZee
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ALL that come in to the physical must one day leave the physical.
There are no exceptions. Rebazar Tarzs died on December 30, 2007.
Rich
"MZee" <wysmi...@gmail.com> wrote
"Rich" <deadm...@inorbit.com> wrote:
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ALL that come in to the physical must one day leave the physical.
There are no exceptions. Rebazar Tarzs died on December 30, 2007.
Rich:
Just as there are no exceptions to what people will take on faith. You may
believe that, but I don't have much faith in what you say.;-)
Why? You couldn't answer my questions.
MZee
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Whether you have faith in what I say or not is irrelevant. Your
answers about the death of Rebazar Tarzs will come in time. He died on
December 30, 2007. And that is all there is to say.
Rich
Yes, that you can't provide answers to back up what you claim says it all.
Kinpa
still feed from it without end...to mention it at all is to do exactly
that, for if you were so "free" from it's "illusions" you all would
have moved on with your lives by now, and yet, for YEARS you have
returned here on a literally daily basis to continue feeding off of
the energy of Eckankar, as well as to bask in the attention it gives
you to leave bait around, waiting for any response...it's truly
comical, i still chuckle, after all these years of witnessing this
fact play out before me :oD it's ok to need attention THAT badly but
really, sometimes some of you get so off centered from your need,
perhaps those of you who are afflicted with this should go and look at
yourself in the mirror....and dont forget to tell all the former and
anti eckists on the yahoo groups the same, you folks are in a
desperate need for attention, maybe you should give some to each other
instead? ever think about that? i thought not...in any case...
I HAVE SPOKEN!
On Jan 7, 4:33 pm, "Rich" <deadm...@inorbit.com> wrote:
> "MZee" <wysmier...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Etznab
It is the people bound by the illusions, imho, who are in the tightest grip as they are unable to see the illusions even when evidence is presented in black and white right in front of their face.
Kinpa
So, what is one man's illusion is not necessarily for the other man. Those are mere opinions. But the evidence you have presented does not in any way prove that no 500 year old Tibetan Lama is fictional. It only proves that the words that Twitchell claimed were spoken by him were not. It doesn't get any simpler than that. So, to claim that anyone who doesn't accept that as proving what YOU claim it does, does not prove that anyone is under any illusion, but it MIGHT suggest that you ARE under one of your own creation...
Henosis Sage
But the evidence you have presented does ... prove that the words
that Twitchell claimed were spoken by Rebazar Tazrs WERE NOT.
It doesn't get any simpler than that.
about a "character in his stories" that he referred to Rebazar Tarzs are
NOT in fact TRUE, and they were never true and will never be true.
Ipso Facto Paul Twitchell was lying to his readers and members, and to his
Initiates, and since 1983 Harold Klemp has been lying to his as well, and
that to continue to do so is unethical, dishonest, deceitful and intentional.
It doesn't get any simpler than that.
who also have lied and/or continue to lie about these matters to a gullible public and an even more gullible and intentionally misinformed Membership.
Meanwhile some people foolishly believe they possess the power of "remote
viewing" when clearly, in every sick circumstance that has transpired, they
do not.
http://psychcentral.com/disorders/delusional-disorder-symptoms/
Mental Health and Delusional Disorder
In this article
Types of Delusional Disorder
What Are the Symptoms of Delusional Disorder?
What Causes Delusional Disorder?
How Is Delusional Disorder Diagnosed?
How Is Delusional Disorder Treated?
What Are the Complications of Delusional Disorder?
What Is the Outlook for People With Delusional Disorder?
Can Delusional Disorder Be Prevented?
Delusional disorder, previously called paranoid disorder, is a type of
serious mental illness called a "psychosis" in which a person cannot tell
what is real from what is imagined. The main feature of this disorder is
the presence of delusions, which are unshakable beliefs in something untrue.
http://www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/guide/delusional-disorder
Kinpa
> On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 13:47:11 UTC+10, Kinpa wrote:
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> But the evidence you have presented does ... prove that the words
> that Twitchell claimed were spoken by Rebazar Tazrs WERE NOT.
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> It doesn't get any simpler than that.
The point you miss is that NONE of that proves that no such person exists! That is the conclusion YOU draw, and that without ANY direct evidence linking the two unrelated matters. It does NOT actually, GET ANY simpler than THAT! But you have every right, that is your own, however, when you insult ANYONE for not agreeing with what you claim that evidence proves, you show VERY clearly that YOU have a delusion problem....go speak to a professional about that and stop dirtying the space here with your tripe..
> Claims repeated by Twitchell in print, in talks, in letters, in newspapers
> about a "character in his stories" that he referred to Rebazar Tarzs are
> NOT in fact TRUE, and they were never true and will never be true.
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> Ipso Facto Paul Twitchell was lying to his readers and members, and to his
> Initiates, and since 1983 Harold Klemp has been lying to his as well, and
> that to continue to do so is unethical, dishonest, deceitful and intentional.
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> It doesn't get any simpler than that.
Actually it DOES...it makes NO difference what one considers a lie, in every case there will be those who disagree, and they are not in any mental conditions simply because YOU cannot stand for such to exist, yet you pretend that you have that right. You are just as much of a liar. You have no proof that Twitchell or Klemp lied to you or anyone, you merely CHOOSE to see it that way. Others do not. Get over it!
> After that all it becomes then is more and more names to add to the list
> who also have lied and/or continue to lie about these matters to a gullible public and an even more gullible and intentionally misinformed Membership.
Again with the hubris? You believe yourself to be so much better than others based on that? LMAO! Hypocrite once again! Need proof of that? Read it right here! https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.religion.eckankar/T7waXtBo1mQ
> Meanwhile some people foolishly believe they possess the power of "remote
> viewing" when clearly, in every sick circumstance that has transpired, they
> do not.
That is your opinion, but there are many things you refuse to admit! Not even remotely surprising however, you have demonstrated VERY clearly this patter on the web before now. Perhaps you need to apply the diagnoses that follow to yourself for a change!
> http://psychcentral.com/disorders/delusional-disorder-symptoms/
>
> Mental Health and Delusional Disorder
> In this article
> Types of Delusional Disorder
> What Are the Symptoms of Delusional Disorder?
> What Causes Delusional Disorder?
> How Is Delusional Disorder Diagnosed?
> How Is Delusional Disorder Treated?
> What Are the Complications of Delusional Disorder?
> What Is the Outlook for People With Delusional Disorder?
> Can Delusional Disorder Be Prevented?
>
> Delusional disorder, previously called paranoid disorder, is a type of
> serious mental illness called a "psychosis" in which a person cannot tell
> what is real from what is imagined. The main feature of this disorder is
> the presence of delusions, which are unshakable beliefs in something untrue.
>
> http://www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/guide/delusional-disorder
Those were seanie's defense mechanisms because he does not like what I am telling him! Talk about a delusional disorder...LOL
Henosis Sage
The point people miss amongst all the intentional disinformation and self-delusion,
is that ALL of what Twitchell says about Rebazar Tazrs and what he says RT
said to him proves that no such a person exists who said or did or appeared
to Twitchell. He was lying about all of it, all the time.
All of Twitchell's ECKANKAR writings are in Fact wholly Fictional.
Or, as Gail Twitchell so aptly put it herself, to many others:
"He made it all up."
Etznab
People believe and identify with the images for so many years and it is hard to give them up. Yet I am not saying for other people to give up the images and what goes on in their head. Only that, if people want to profess some things as real they should be bound to prove them.
Give proof that there ever was a Rebazar Tarzs aside from what other people had claimed and wrote.