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Etznab
Jan 22, 2012, 10:44:27 AM1/22/12
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"The Anurag Sagar of Kabir" is an epic poem attributed to Guru Kabir
that probably was authored by Sant Dharamdas or someone in the
Dharamdasi branch of the Kabir lineage after the time of Kabir. It is
a faithful presentation of the teachings of the Masters including
Kabir. Anurag Sagar has become a great spiritual classic of the East,
a kind of Sant Mat "Book of Genesis" or "Gospel" of the Four Yugas of
time, vast epochs referred to as: Satya Yuga, Treta Yuga, Dvapara
Yuga, and Kali Yuga. To some degree it reminds me of the Gnostic
creation as well as Fall of Sophia myths found in the Nag Hammadi
Library and Pistis Sophia.
The out-of-this-world mysticism of the Masters, including the
teachings found in the Anurag Sagar, has been called "Esoteric
Santism" by Professor Mark Juergensmeyer in his book, "Radhasoami
Reality," Princeton University Press. "Esoteric Santism" is his term
for the very developed, detailed decriptions of the experience of
inner heavenly regions, the heaven-ascending mysticism practiced by a
certain branch of the Kabir lineage known as the Dharamdasis, also by
Sant Dariya Sahib of Bihar and his spiritual successors, Param Sant
Tulsi Sahib of Hathras, Swami Ji Maharaj of Agra, Huzur Maharaj of
Agra, Maharishi Mehi, and Sant Mat Masters in certain lineages up to
the present time.
http://santmatradhasoami.blogspot.com/2008/01/anurag-sagar-very-gnostic-book-eastern.html
From the above it becomes clear how many people endorsed the idea for
an "Ocean of Love" throughout history. However, IMHO this particular
story is mythic and poetic. For examples about what I mean by mythic,
etc., here are a few examples:
From the section: How Niranjan – Dharam Rai – got what he needed to
develop his Universe.
[...] Kal attacked the heads of Kurma with his nails, and breaking his
stomach, air came out. From the three heads of Kurma the dynasty of
Brahma, Vishnu and Mahesh came out. Five elements came out, including
the sky with the moon, sun and stars; they all came out of him.
Matsya, Shesh Nag, Varah, and the pillars to support the earth came
out, and in this way the creation of earth started. When Kal pulled
the head of Kurma, sweat came out. [....]
http://santmat-thetruth.de/index.php?option=com_book&book=4817&page=8
From the section: The Frowardness of Niranjan, Kal – The Damnation
through Sat Purush / How Kal swallows Adhya after being attracted to
her
Hearing the word of Sat Purush, Niranjan came and settled in
Mansarovar, when he first saw the woman, Dharam Rai was pleased.
Looking at Ashtangi, Dharam Rai behaved in a self-conceited manner.
He said,
"There is no limit to the limitless Lord."
Delighted by the beauty of that woman, he looked at her. Looking at
every single part of her body, he became impatient, and he swallowed
the woman! Oh, Dharam Das, hear about Kal’s nature! When that unjust
Kal swallowed the woman, she was astonished.
At once she cried for help saying,
"Kal has made me his food."
Then Dharam Rai came to Sahaj, who took back the plane of void
consciousness from him. Then Sat Purush remembered what had happened
to Kurma: how Kal had also attacked him to control him, and had
destroyed his three heads. Sat Purush is gracious but He knows all –
knowing this character of Kal, Sat Purush damned him – about which I
will tell you now: [....]
http://santmat-thetruth.de/index.php?option=com_book&book=4817&page=8
Later on down the same page when Dharam Rai ["Kal"] wants to have sex
with the woman - after she came out from inside him - the woman says
that she hasn't a genital organ! There is then a hymn to explain how
she got one:
Hymn
Then Niranjan acted this way: With his nail, he immediately cut the
hole of her genital organ, and in that way the door of creation was
formed. The blood started pouring from the genital organ as it was
harmed by the nail and since then the act of sexual intercourse has
existed.
http://santmatradhasoami.blogspot.com/2008/01/anurag-sagar-very-gnostic-book-eastern.html
So there is a little flavor about this creation story - like none
other - believed to have come by way of NOT Kabir, but one of his
followers years later.
Apparently, stories such as these have been told and retold for
centuries. Each group adding and subtracting as suits their own
understanding.
Whoever dreamed up this story must have been taking something similar
to what John had when he wrote the Biblical book Revelation.
Yea. A vast ocean is human imagination.
Imagination
"faculty of the mind which forms and manipulates images," mid-14c.,
ymaginacion, from O.Fr. imaginacion "concept, mental picture;
hallucination," from L. imaginationem (nom. imaginatio) "imagination,
a fancy," noun of action from pp. stem of imaginari (see imagine).
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=imagination&searchmode=none
Imagine
mid-14c., "to form a mental image of," from O.Fr. imaginer "sculpt,
carve, paint; decorate, embellish" (13c.), from L. imaginari "to form
a mental picture to oneself, imagine" (also, in L.L. imaginare "to
form an image of, represent"), from imago (see image). Sense of
"suppose" is first recorded late 14c. Related: Imagined; imagining.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=imagine&allowed_in_frame=0
People who told such fantastic stories, IMHO they were not devoid of
help. Not when generations of similar stories preceded them; and now
it is hard to tell just where the former imaginations end and the
modern ones begin.
Perhaps the only sure way to make any sense from it all is to go back
to the original story teller and listen / read what they had to say.
And how different might that story be from what exists today? Most
people will probably never - in this lifetime - know because the
older versions, like the truth, must be quarantined like Forbidden
Territory from the movie Planet of the Apes. To tell the truth would
be to expose a lie, like an iceberg of reality sinking some titanic
organization, religion government leader, etc.
that probably was authored by Sant Dharamdas or someone in the
Dharamdasi branch of the Kabir lineage after the time of Kabir. It is
a faithful presentation of the teachings of the Masters including
Kabir. Anurag Sagar has become a great spiritual classic of the East,
a kind of Sant Mat "Book of Genesis" or "Gospel" of the Four Yugas of
time, vast epochs referred to as: Satya Yuga, Treta Yuga, Dvapara
Yuga, and Kali Yuga. To some degree it reminds me of the Gnostic
creation as well as Fall of Sophia myths found in the Nag Hammadi
Library and Pistis Sophia.
The out-of-this-world mysticism of the Masters, including the
teachings found in the Anurag Sagar, has been called "Esoteric
Santism" by Professor Mark Juergensmeyer in his book, "Radhasoami
Reality," Princeton University Press. "Esoteric Santism" is his term
for the very developed, detailed decriptions of the experience of
inner heavenly regions, the heaven-ascending mysticism practiced by a
certain branch of the Kabir lineage known as the Dharamdasis, also by
Sant Dariya Sahib of Bihar and his spiritual successors, Param Sant
Tulsi Sahib of Hathras, Swami Ji Maharaj of Agra, Huzur Maharaj of
Agra, Maharishi Mehi, and Sant Mat Masters in certain lineages up to
the present time.
http://santmatradhasoami.blogspot.com/2008/01/anurag-sagar-very-gnostic-book-eastern.html
From the above it becomes clear how many people endorsed the idea for
an "Ocean of Love" throughout history. However, IMHO this particular
story is mythic and poetic. For examples about what I mean by mythic,
etc., here are a few examples:
From the section: How Niranjan – Dharam Rai – got what he needed to
develop his Universe.
[...] Kal attacked the heads of Kurma with his nails, and breaking his
stomach, air came out. From the three heads of Kurma the dynasty of
Brahma, Vishnu and Mahesh came out. Five elements came out, including
the sky with the moon, sun and stars; they all came out of him.
Matsya, Shesh Nag, Varah, and the pillars to support the earth came
out, and in this way the creation of earth started. When Kal pulled
the head of Kurma, sweat came out. [....]
http://santmat-thetruth.de/index.php?option=com_book&book=4817&page=8
From the section: The Frowardness of Niranjan, Kal – The Damnation
through Sat Purush / How Kal swallows Adhya after being attracted to
her
Hearing the word of Sat Purush, Niranjan came and settled in
Mansarovar, when he first saw the woman, Dharam Rai was pleased.
Looking at Ashtangi, Dharam Rai behaved in a self-conceited manner.
He said,
"There is no limit to the limitless Lord."
Delighted by the beauty of that woman, he looked at her. Looking at
every single part of her body, he became impatient, and he swallowed
the woman! Oh, Dharam Das, hear about Kal’s nature! When that unjust
Kal swallowed the woman, she was astonished.
At once she cried for help saying,
"Kal has made me his food."
Then Dharam Rai came to Sahaj, who took back the plane of void
consciousness from him. Then Sat Purush remembered what had happened
to Kurma: how Kal had also attacked him to control him, and had
destroyed his three heads. Sat Purush is gracious but He knows all –
knowing this character of Kal, Sat Purush damned him – about which I
will tell you now: [....]
http://santmat-thetruth.de/index.php?option=com_book&book=4817&page=8
Later on down the same page when Dharam Rai ["Kal"] wants to have sex
with the woman - after she came out from inside him - the woman says
that she hasn't a genital organ! There is then a hymn to explain how
she got one:
Hymn
Then Niranjan acted this way: With his nail, he immediately cut the
hole of her genital organ, and in that way the door of creation was
formed. The blood started pouring from the genital organ as it was
harmed by the nail and since then the act of sexual intercourse has
existed.
http://santmatradhasoami.blogspot.com/2008/01/anurag-sagar-very-gnostic-book-eastern.html
So there is a little flavor about this creation story - like none
other - believed to have come by way of NOT Kabir, but one of his
followers years later.
Apparently, stories such as these have been told and retold for
centuries. Each group adding and subtracting as suits their own
understanding.
Whoever dreamed up this story must have been taking something similar
to what John had when he wrote the Biblical book Revelation.
Yea. A vast ocean is human imagination.
Imagination
"faculty of the mind which forms and manipulates images," mid-14c.,
ymaginacion, from O.Fr. imaginacion "concept, mental picture;
hallucination," from L. imaginationem (nom. imaginatio) "imagination,
a fancy," noun of action from pp. stem of imaginari (see imagine).
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=imagination&searchmode=none
Imagine
mid-14c., "to form a mental image of," from O.Fr. imaginer "sculpt,
carve, paint; decorate, embellish" (13c.), from L. imaginari "to form
a mental picture to oneself, imagine" (also, in L.L. imaginare "to
form an image of, represent"), from imago (see image). Sense of
"suppose" is first recorded late 14c. Related: Imagined; imagining.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=imagine&allowed_in_frame=0
People who told such fantastic stories, IMHO they were not devoid of
help. Not when generations of similar stories preceded them; and now
it is hard to tell just where the former imaginations end and the
modern ones begin.
Perhaps the only sure way to make any sense from it all is to go back
to the original story teller and listen / read what they had to say.
And how different might that story be from what exists today? Most
people will probably never - in this lifetime - know because the
older versions, like the truth, must be quarantined like Forbidden
Territory from the movie Planet of the Apes. To tell the truth would
be to expose a lie, like an iceberg of reality sinking some titanic
organization, religion government leader, etc.
MichaelT...@yahoo.com
Jan 24, 2012, 6:21:59 PM1/24/12
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The Ajaib Singh translation is really, really beautiful. The Anurag
itself is incredibly powerful stuff!
itself is incredibly powerful stuff!
Etznab
Jan 24, 2012, 7:32:40 PM1/24/12
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On Jan 24, 5:21 pm, "MichaelTurner...@yahoo.com"
<MichaelTurner...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The Ajaib Singh translation is really, really beautiful. The Anurag
> itself is incredibly powerful stuff!
Is there an online link to that version?
> The Ajaib Singh translation is really, really beautiful. The Anurag
> itself is incredibly powerful stuff!
Etznab
Jan 25, 2012, 12:13:19 AM1/25/12
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In it, the story is basically the same. Kal pierces the stomach of
Kurma, swallows the girl, and does something with his nail "to create
a way for producing children."
The problem I see with this story - no matter the version - is how it
compares with other fabulous stories; the biblical Genesis, etc. Not
only do I suspect borrowing from older stories, it's likely these
stories were covered over like pieces of natural wood intentionally
hidden by layers and layers of paint over time. Some literal truths
and credible living history probably exists underneath, but if that
natural truth were exposed it would necessarily mean the destruction
of so much superficial pseudo history and religion.
IMO these fabulous stories are propagated for notoriety and fame,
among other things, and used to cement the reputation of a particular
person, or group, into the minds of a gullible public. Telling stories
was a very popular and common practice used long ago to make a name
for people(s) in general. It was a way for a person to "live" even
after death; their memory would live in the minds of successive
generations. This was a time before television and the Internet.
Probably beginning even before writing. Simply stated, oral
transmission was the method for perpetuating a historical record;
through word of mouth and song. These were the chosen forms of
entertainment in olden days. People got together, told stories and
sang songs.
Some of the popular literary works today had beginnings long, long
ago. And if one knows anything about the telling of stories two things
become evidently clear. (1) People naturally embellished the truth.
(2) Stories can change again and again with each successive telling.
The real historian, IMHO, is not one satisfied with the reading of
stories alone. They want to know the life of the story. How it might
have grown, or changed. They look at a story like a person looks at
family genealogy. Tracing a path of origins. Where did it come from?
Who were it's parents? so to speak.
Anybody can tell a story. That is a fact. And not all stories are 100
percent credible; also a fact. Take the example of propaganda.
The reason I commented on Anurag Sagar was not for public praise about
a fabulous story. It was to criticize and chip away at the mystical
varnish of poetry and myth. Call it digging for gold, whatever. The
same thing I like to do with many other fabulous stories. Eckankar, or
not.
Etznab
P.S.
propaganda
1718, from Mod.L. propaganda, short for Congregatio de Propaganda Fide
"congregation for propagating the faith," [....]
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=propaganda&searchmode=none
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congregation_for_the_Evangelization_of_Peoples
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