On Thursday, 9 June 2016 23:34:18 UTC+10, Kinpa wrote:
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Aah yes, I found it. Been wanting to retort to this lunacy by Matt for a few days.
Quoting poor ol' Matt
"...that bothers him because he believes that he owns this group / ...
especially when he tries to claim that anyone that doesn't agree with his
ASSUMPTIONS about Eckankar is attacking him by disagreeing...."
OMG where does this idiot get all these unbelievable delusions from? From
himself and his own mental machinations obviously.
Um, a.r.e., is and has always been a public newsgroup, a part of USENET, it is free to use by all and no one or thing 'owns it' - period. Not me not nobody.
Google doesn't own this group or any other group either .. they simply archive
the newsgroup feed ... end of story. IT's a "free service" that Google
provides. No one needs a google account to post to it either. I do not believe
that I own this group, not now not ever. To suggest I believe such a thing is,
well, just INSANE and a rank LIE ..... not unusual for Kinpoop Matt. He isn;t that bright.
Next. Nope, I have never not once claimed that anyone who does not agree with me about 'eckankar' nor anything else is attacking my by disagreeing with me.
That too is an utterly insane thing to assert, because it isn't reality. The evidence is in the archives. Easily checked if one had the time to look. Just another rank lie and distortion by Matt Sharpe. he cannot stop doing this. Been doing it for almost 2 years now and zero improvement. He's 'insane; basically. Totally disconnected from reality. A compulsive liar and a total idiot.
So let's clarify a few things, given so many at various points seem to be
living under a state of disinformation, lies and unreality put out by the
idiot Matt Sharpe.
Fact is I do not care what Matt's religion is or isn't. I think Matt Sharpe is a dead set idiot and a fool. His chosen relgious beliefs are irrelevant. On top of this I think he is an abusive asshole of the worst kind. A total coward, A fraud, a narcissist and a regular anti-social psychopath. He's a deviat and an abuser, a internet stalker, a bully who uses verbal abuse and constant harassment in an gutless effort to intimidate other people. His #1 tool is ridicule. His #2 tool is say whatever comes to mind no matter how untrue it is.
His #3 tool is do and say anything that will annoy another person or that will hopefully destroy their reputation. It doesn't matter how extreme the lies are, nor how easy they are to be proven as being lies, just say it and repeat it so often that foolish gullible people will tend to believe it (if they already like him/know him) because no "reasonable person' could ever expect someone would have the gall to insult and abuse another person with such nasty, disgusting and offensive lies.
No one has ever stood up to Matt online before like I and etznab have. He was as much a mongrel on othe forums that have nothing to do with eckankar, over a decade ago. This isn;t about me it's all baout Matt Sharpe. He is a narcisisstic psychopath - end of story. Nothing to do with eckankar nor my comments about eckankar and various things said by eckists and master sin the past.
NOTHING .... if Matt Shapre was a Pastfarian he's still a mongrel. A muslim or an athiest he is still a mongrel. He's a disgusting deviate, and serial abuser who only be contained by external legal intervention. He should have his freedom to post to the internet constrained. His two sons both minors should be protected from any further contact with this unstable mentally disturbed idiot. All Eckists should be warned by head office he does NOT represent Eckankar, the teachings or the LEM, should be banned from all official eckankar events and satsangs eck centers, and that caution should be maintained regarding ANY kind of contact with him as he is possibly dangerous to himself and others.
That day is coming. Shit like this only ends up going in one direction.
That being said, everyone has the right to be involved in any religious belief or not. Everyone has their opinions about that and should have the freedom to express their opinions and discuss their experiences and research about same be they pro or con.
I ahve no issues about anyone on earth who identifies as an 'eckist' - what can be learned via eckankar can be veyr useful and insightful. IT's a horses for courses thing. What I have had issues with is the intentional lies told by Twitchell, his immeidate folowers ala Gail and Patti simpson, and then Harold klemp who has not been truthful about himself and what he knew circa 1983 along with Marman who has not only lied about himself, what he knew, and what he believed and when across 2 decades now. That and his and many others total incompetence in thier historical researech and commentary about same and the plagiasirism text copying issue.
AS far as I see it, people in and out of Eckankar have a natural RIGHT to know the facts and have the FREEDOM to make their own choices based on reality, the truth, the facts and the known evidence along with whatever a LEM might claim from time to time.
I also do not believe Eckankar is a valid religion for tax and registration and NFP purposes. That is a legal issue that varies form one nation to another as far as the details go.
I also conclude that since the time of Paul Twitchell eckankar has used false pretenses to obtain voluntary unpaid work from members and sold materials to them that were knowingly FALSE and not fit for purpose. The only reason it has survived this long is from hiding behind it's FAUX RELIGIOUS status and the $millions in major donations by members (above and beyond fees and books sales) and intentional disinformation and fraud over 50 years.
I have a right to say that. Much of the evidence and info that leads me to such conclusions can be found on the Twitchell Eckankar History Archive and via the many other sites and resources referenced on that website.
In particular from personal experience and extensive knowledge I find Doug
Marman an extremely untrustworthy person, dishonest, and utterly unreliable no
matter what the 'issue' is.
Kinpa, Matt Sharpe, well he is really an idiot, a fool and a mentally disturbed
narcissist who should be avoided at all cost.
There is a very high pay off to me in keeping him on the hook here the last 2
years ... it's called huge does of Schadenfreude -- I get joy from serial
abusers of others getting a taste of what they have put out their entire life
with NO Quarter given.
I won't stop it's just too much fun watching him suffer and get bent out of
shape. By the time he is forced to leave this place he will be like jello.
And be confused ... he deserves it in spades. He's been an abusive user his
entire life. He's sick as shit, he's dangerous to others (and eckankar/eckists)
and only direct intervention by the State will fix him.
Ha, what a fool.