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Definition of a Lie or Deceit
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Henosis Sage
Jun 13, 2015, 11:52:09 AM6/13/15
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Definition of a Lie or Deceit
Quoting Paul Ekman
"In my definition of a lie or deceit, then, one person intends
to mislead another, doing so deliberately, without prior
notification of this purpose, and without having been explicitly
asked to do so by the target."
TELLING LIES Clues to Deceit by an Paul EKMAN (TEHA 2014 Extracts)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-M0yAR0UPhPU3JiMFhaeWVQMWs/view
the act or practice of deceiving; concealment or distortion of the truth
for the purpose of misleading; duplicity; fraud; cheating.
to speak falsely or utter untruth knowingly, as with intent to deceive.
Synonyms: prevaricate, fib, to express what is false; convey a false impression.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Definition+of+a+Lie+or+Deceit
Paul Twitchell's extensive copying and plagiarisms alone,
prove beyond doubt, intentional deliberate Lying and Deceit.
Nobody asked Paul Twitchell to do any of these things to them.
"For every good reason there is to lie,
there is a better reason to tell the truth."
- Bo Bennett
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Quoting Paul Ekman
"In my definition of a lie or deceit, then, one person intends
to mislead another, doing so deliberately, without prior
notification of this purpose, and without having been explicitly
asked to do so by the target."
TELLING LIES Clues to Deceit by an Paul EKMAN (TEHA 2014 Extracts)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-M0yAR0UPhPU3JiMFhaeWVQMWs/view
the act or practice of deceiving; concealment or distortion of the truth
for the purpose of misleading; duplicity; fraud; cheating.
to speak falsely or utter untruth knowingly, as with intent to deceive.
Synonyms: prevaricate, fib, to express what is false; convey a false impression.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Definition+of+a+Lie+or+Deceit
Paul Twitchell's extensive copying and plagiarisms alone,
prove beyond doubt, intentional deliberate Lying and Deceit.
Nobody asked Paul Twitchell to do any of these things to them.
"For every good reason there is to lie,
there is a better reason to tell the truth."
- Bo Bennett
-
Henosis Sage
Jun 13, 2015, 12:01:17 PM6/13/15
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Sociopaths lie the most because they are incapable of feelings and do not want to understand the impact of their lies. They may even get a thrill out of lying at your expense. Once they tell an initial lie they go on to tell many more lies in an attempt to cover up the lies they started, or just for the "fun" of it.
A sociopath rarely reveals his or her feelings or emotions. You won't often hear them laugh, cry, or get angry. These kinds of liars tend to live in their own little world and always find ways to justify their dishonest deeds. They do not respect others and place their own needs first and foremost.
If someone questions the sociopath's lies they can be incredibly devious in the way they cover things up. This can include placing the blame at someone else's door or by inventing complex stories to cover up their untruths.
http://www.compulsivelyingdisorder.com/sociopathic-liar/
".... or just for the "fun" of it."
Does that bit sound lust like anyone you know?
Henosis Sage
Jun 13, 2015, 12:04:39 PM6/13/15
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Adam on June 26, 2013 at 9:37 am said:
Indeed, sociopathic compulsive liars are on the more severe end of the spectrum. I'd agree there's a strong narcissistic element, and also often a sadistic enjoyment in deceiving others.
As a therapist I work with compulsive liars regularly who genuinely seek help. The compulsive liar who tell you that they are lying is already, at that point, on the road to recovery. But the sociopath may have a different agenda. I find they rarely enter treatment voluntarily unless with a hidden agenda.
I had an example recently where someone attended, in my view, to appease their partner who threatened to leave. They also refused to pay for the session arguing that they never formally agreed to the fee. This is unheard of. Yet it shows an element beyond compulsive dishonesty, but one of exploitation.
Hence I like your distinction between the liar who wants help, perhaps they're in touch with shame, versus the sociopath who wants to deceive, exploit and enjoy getting one up on the other.
Henosis Sage
Jun 28, 2015, 5:26:54 AM6/28/15
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Sociopaths lie the most because they are incapable of feelings and do not want to understand the impact of their lies. They may even get a thrill out of lying at your expense. Once they tell an initial lie they go on to tell many more lies in an attempt to cover up the lies they started, or just for the "fun" of it.
A sociopath rarely reveals his or her feelings or emotions. You won't often hear them laugh, cry, or get angry. These kinds of liars tend to live in their own little world and always find ways to justify their dishonest deeds. They do not respect others and place their own needs first and foremost.
If someone questions the sociopath's lies they can be incredibly devious in the way they cover things up. This can include placing the blame at someone else's door or by inventing complex stories to cover up their untruths.
http://www.compulsivelyingdisorder.com/sociopathic-liar/
Etznab
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