JAMES FRANK ONELLION 15 Jan 1933 to 17 Nov 2008
Searles O'Dubhain
Social Security Administration death notices:
JAMES FRANK ONELLION 15 Jan 1933 17 Nov 2008 (P) 95820 (Sacramento,
Sacramento, CA) (none specified) 567-36-1034 California
The (P) above indicates that the information was verified using the
actual death certificate issued ib Sacremento.
Jim's last postings here were about two months prior to the date given
above.
I had many disagreements with Jim while he was posting here. Most of
these centered around his attacks on the ideas of religion and deities
in Druidism. I hope that he has found his truth in another life beyond
death's doorway.
Searles O'Dubhain
Birgit Bucher
RIP
Birgit
--
"West, west away, the round sun is falling.
Grey ship, grey ship, do you hear them calling,
The voices of my people that have gone before me?"
(Legolas, LotR, Book VI, Chapter IV, p.992)
1X2Willows
> Searles O'Dubhain wrote:
>> I went in search of this information and found it on a listing of
>> Social Security Administration death notices:
>>
>> JAMES FRANK ONELLION 15 Jan 1933 17 Nov 2008 (P) 95820 (Sacramento,
>> Sacramento, CA) (none specified) 567-36-1034 California
>>
>> The (P) above indicates that the information was verified using the
>> actual death certificate issued ib Sacremento.
>>
>> Jim's last postings here were about two months prior to the date
>> given above.
>>
>> I had many disagreements with Jim while he was posting here. Most of
>> these centered around his attacks on the ideas of religion and
>> deities in Druidism. I hope that he has found his truth in another
>> life beyond death's doorway.
>
> RIP
>
> Birgit
Yeah we found that out quite a while ago but decided not to publish
this information anywhere and especially not here, for various reasons.
Searles O'Dubhain
>
> - Show quoted text -
I think it's the kind of information that should definitely be known
by the people here for various reasons.
I went looking for it specifically because he had not posted for a
long time here or anywhere else. For better or worse, Jim was a part
of our community and he will most probably become a part of our tales.
Among our many different people the traditions would have some one
speak of his life and death whether he was friend or foe.
I am sorry that he and I did not have a chance to look one another in
the eye during this life. Sometimes that's all it takes to change the
way things are for people. Now I will have to do that in dreams or
perhaps on what he would call Fantasy Island.
There was a lot of promise in his approach to things that seemed never
to be realized for one reason or another though I'm very certain that
he actually did make a great difference in the lives of those who knew
him or were family to him.
As I said in the first posting here, I know he has found his truth and
that each of us will get a chance to touch it and embrace it when our
own times come. It is the Druid way to attempt to touch that truth
during life as well as by going through and beyond death.
Maybe we will see him again in another form or a different life?
Searles O'Dubhain
An Coibhi Drui
I am deeply saddened at this definite news of Jim's departure from
this existence and I wish to thank Searles for finding out and letting
us know so I can remember him here tonight. Jim both opposed and
supported me here, but that is only of this world so of no
consequence now. Jim had great attachment to, and reverence of, his
Irish and Lakotan roots and is now in happiness with them beyond this
universe in the Land beyond All Lands.
Doubtless, he has found the hills there already, I hope so .
Ar Dheis De go raibh a h-anam dhilis.
Michael .
1X2Willows
Most definitely. Good post altogether. If anyone ever visits 'his' beloved
Sierras, please stop for a moment and think what you could do for the
environment and the rest of our relations. That's what he was about, all
he ever wanted, even if it meant standing up to fellow human beings.
Pure anti-human-centricty.
Thanks Jim. Hang in there, be well and see you around. You taught me
a lot and the most basic lessons of them all: It's not about 'us' but what
we can do for those who have not even a lobby to represent and support
their natural rights in this day and age.
Dan
1X2Willows
>
> his Irish and Lakotan roots
One of the reasons why I didn't say anything in this place when we found
out was my absolute conviction you would talk out your ass once more
and try to manipulate Jim's departure from this physical plane into some
soap box for your own stupid blood'n soil Nationalism again.
I was right... again.
Jim was quarter Apapaho you banjaxed idiot and his general opinion of
the Lakota was one of sellouts to the white man, primarily, and overall
cowards on top of it. True or not, that's what he said, let's leave it at
this.
Likewise, this is the last I'll have to say about the whole issue and I'm
aware of the breach of rule I'll commit by sending this off. Jim meant to
teach me not to do these things but then again... I know for sure he is
proud that I let this be known anyway to set the record straight.
Here's an authentic quote from him:
"Among the Indians the transition from Great Mystery to Great Spirit and
from origin stories to creation stories is a complex one. It would take a
few hours one on one to make it all crystal clear. Essentially elders of the
various tribes reconstructed their cosmology as a survival tactic. They felt
that coming in line with the Europeans church would make it all a lot easier
on their people."
Same happened with the transition from Celtic cosmology to all this
Gaelic polytheist gobbledygook and the same happens right now, again,
with Fakins of that Bilk making sh*t up out of the blue skies in order to
lead his people home to a past which never existed in the first place.
Over and out.
Noinden
Your crocodile tears here are not very convincing. This is now the
second time you have violated Jim’s privacy. First you publish his
private information, now you publish the fact (which was known to many
of us) that he is dead.
What gave you the right to do this?
You and I both could not stand Jim and vica versa. But no you have to
post this to appear to be giving a damn.
Jim has passed. It was not your job to let the public know.
Nice one stu.
helgaleena
You know what? Jim was just as Druid as you and your Celtocentric
fundamentalist dressup stance, Charles. And ethnically he had more
Celt in him than many. Got up your nose when he insisted that being
aware of our earth might have nothing to do with just one culture's
take on it.
Let's hope you find as much truth as that Before your 'other life'.
Toward the end there it seems he got a lot of pleasure our of playing
the troll, but you were, and are, always here to weigh down your
corner. Dan's adversarial stance combined with his rather spoiled the
atmosphere. And as long as you need deflating it shall continue to be
done, with or without Jim. Deities don't only speak Gaelic,especially
on this continent.
helgaleena RDNA
An Coibhi Drui
We have still a great tradition here in Ireland that we let the dead
rest.
That would be too much to expect, of course, from Swiss and Kiwi
Marxists.
In sadness,
Michael .
An Coibhi Drui
Please let the dead rest.
( He died a good friend ) .
In sadness,
Michael .
An Coibhi Drui
And, by the way, neither you ( whoever you are to come barging in here
like a loud-mouthed Yank , as you do) nor that Swiss fella, nor that
brash Kiwi braggart , are fit to polish Searles's boots !!!
Searles O'Dubhainn is one of the most popular and respected Irish-
American Druids on the planet !
There are people who love to read his contributions here, long may he
thrive - and keep the rest of us here informed despite a cabal of
three or so here wanting to keep this forum to themselves, to the
disregard and disrespect of everybody else here .
Michael .
Cheers,
Michael .
Noinden
wrote:
O'Dubhainn is one of the most popular and respected Irish-
> American Druids on the planet !
Like Dan I will break the agreed upon rules of engagement.
Most people have no idea who Charles is. Much like they have no idea
who you are.
> There are people who love to read his contributions here, long may he
> thrive - and keep the rest of us here informed despite a cabal of
> three or so here wanting to keep this forum to themselves, to the
> disregard and disrespect of everybody else here .
I am showing Jim respect by taking on someone who violated his privacy
once before. Ask yourself this Fish-head.... what would Jim have said
to Charlies post if he was still with us? Any who knew him for any
period of time would know. It would NOT have been polite.
So you and Charlie can stop using his passing as a tool to seem
important.
Noinden
wrote:
You start Fish head. I knew he had passed a while back, and I did NOT
bring it up. Yet here we have Charlie and you using his passing to
your own advantage.
An Coibhi Drui
Please let the dead rest, as we still do in Ireland,
surely that's not much to ask ?
Michael .
An Coibhi Drui
Yes, censorship , so none of the dearly departed's fellow Irish Druid
friends would know
of his passing,
and could pay our respects .
In sadness,
Michael .
An Coibhi Drui
wrote:
I am now passing on the sad tidings to Irish Druid friends, for Jim
had such,
especially in his ancestral County Clare .
I know that fellow Irish Druids will do likewise -
this sad news shall be announced to the Gathering on the Hill of Tara
in due course.
Of course I knew that something was wrong when his delightful and
welcome emails to me stopped
at around the time Searles mentions,
but I hoped and prayed that it was not the Inevitable,
as comes to us all -
I note that he went away at the time of Samhainn,
surely a sign of his Greatness as a Druid !
A Good, Decent and Honourable Spirit,
He could have no truck with Evil -
Ar Dheis De go raibh a h-anam dhilis.
Beir Bua agus Beannacht !
Michael,
AD Ireland .
An Coibhi Drui
At the going down of the Sun
and in the morning,
we shall remember him.
My sympathies and respects on behalf of the Druids of Ireland
to the dearly departed's family and friends.
Le gach dea-ghui,
Michael, his friend.
Michael McGrath,
Archdruid of Ireland,
Elected, Traditional, Hereditary .
An Coibhi Drui
An Coibhi Drui
An Coibhi Drui
Searles O' Dubhainn is known, respected and honoured as a Druid in
Ireland,
whereas you, Friendo, are a Nonentity.
BTW Jim was intensely proud of his Irish ancestry
as he proclaimed here,
and described,
many a time -
so do not deign to put in and take words out of a dead man's
mouth :-)
Gods speak in the language you speak to them, they are courteous .
And your threats to cyber-stalk Searles, will, as you would know if
you had any sense,
get you nowhere at all .
And Jim was never a troll, as you state,
he was justly proud of the Wit of his posts .
Muichael .
Noinden
wrote:
> Please let the dead rest, as we still do in Ireland,
> surely that's not much to ask ?
>
> Michael .
Thus it is proven that you do not read. Charlie is the one who has not
let the dead rest. I'm simply calling him on it.
An Coibhi Drui
Jim originally opposed me vehemently here,
and then came around to supporting and acknowledging me ,
Befriending me,
emailing me personally from time to time
on matters that are private now for all time.
Typically, you seek to re-open old wounds. to cause division, trouble
and strife -
GET THEE HENCE, CREATURE :-)
Nothing further need be said.
An Coibhi Drui
Searles performed an important service of communication of the news of
the death of a friend of mine to me, and also to others here who were
friends of the dearly departed too,
so we can mourn.
It is you and your pal Dan who seek to distort this truth
off the back of a dead man !
for your own nefarious purposes.
Get thee hence !
Michael .
An Coibhi Drui
wrote:
> On Oct 12, 6:09 pm, Noinden <noin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Oct 12, 11:49 am, An Coibhi Drui <photographerofkilke...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Please let the dead rest, as we still do in Ireland,
> > > surely that's not much to ask ?
>
> > > Michael .
>
> > Thus it is proven that you do not read. Charlie is the one who has not
> > let the dead rest. I'm simply calling him on it.
>
> Searles performed an important service of communication of the news of
> the death of a friend of mine to me, and also to others here who were
> friends of the dearly departed too,
> so we can mourn.
> It is you and your pal Dan who seek to distort this truth
> off the back of a dead man !
> for your own nefarious purposes.
> Get thee hence !
>
> Michael .
Jim & Dan were great friends once,
In fact they were inseparable here,
Dan should think of that now, and on that basis,
ask this Noinden fella to stop, and let the dead rest .
Please,
Michael .
Michael Magrath
.
( Jim's beloved dot - he never figured that there is no need for it,
heh heh heh ) .
Michael .
Michael Magrath
( My abiding mental image of Jim is of a contrary old cuss fighting
with a bear off in them thar hills, maybe he is now ... )
Noinden
wrote:
> On Oct 12, 6:09 pm, Noinden <noin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Oct 12, 11:49 am, An Coibhi Drui <photographerofkilke...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Please let the dead rest, as we still do in Ireland,
> > > surely that's not much to ask ?
>
> > > Michael .
>
> > Thus it is proven that you do not read. Charlie is the one who has not
> > let the dead rest. I'm simply calling him on it.
>
> Searles performed an important service of communication of the news of
> the death of a friend of mine to me, and also to others here who were
> friends of the dearly departed too,
> so we can mourn.
> It is you and your pal Dan who seek to distort this truth
> off the back of a dead man !
> for your own nefarious purposes.
> Get thee hence !
>
> Michael .
He could have done so via a private email. As I said once again he
violated Jim's Privacy. There was no need to post it here. Furhter I
am distorting nothing. Unlike you I do not use truth when and where I
want. I use it all the time.
Noinden
1X2Willows
>
>> Please let the dead rest.
>> ( He died a good friend ) .
>>
>> In sadness,
>> Michael .
>
>
> You start Fish head. I knew he had passed a while back, and I did NOT
> bring it up. Yet here we have Charlie and you using his passing to
> your own advantage.
See? There it is. Took slimeball mere minutes to start exploiting it.
Some good friend who can't even get the tribe right. Yeah sure
Stay tuned for more falsehoods he's gonna' cook up now.
An Coibhi Drui
There's a great big gaping hole inside in you, Dan, where humanity is
stored in the rest of us !
An Coibhi Drui
Again, Searles publshed news of Jim's death, and his own sympathies,
he is entitled to that, as are the rest of us who were Jim's chosen
companions and friends in life.
Tell me, just how THICK are you ?
Cheers,
Michael .
An Coibhi Drui
Because if you were not so THICK you would have noticed that several
members of this newsgroup have already responded to the sad news
confirmed by Searles ,by offering their sympathies publicly here in
the most sincere and genuine ways .
So you are such a harsh, hard and cruel-hearted monster that you deny
that the members are entitled to post their sympathies here, or you
are simply too goddamned THICK to know any better !
Michael .
An Coibhi Drui
There is no falsehood in death, it is the cold reality facing us all,
and we can only comfort and re-assure one another in the face of it.
Michael .
Searles O'Dubhain
> You start Fish head. I knew he had passed a while back, and I did NOT
> bring it up. Yet here we have Charlie and you using his passing to
> your own advantage.
You are even more of an ass than I already thought.
Searles
An Coibhi Drui
In Ireland another good tradition we have is to never speak ill of the
dead, so let us all now for a change remember our dearly beloved
departed brother Jim and all the best of his contributions here, some
of them classic .
Michael .
An Coibhi Drui
Searles O'Dubhain
>
> You know what? Jim was just as Druid as you and your Celtocentric
> fundamentalist dressup stance, Charles. And ethnically he had more
> Celt in him than many. Got up your nose when he insisted that being
> aware of our earth might have nothing to do with just one culture's
> take on it.
>
> Let's hope you find as much truth as that Before your 'other life'.
>
> Toward the end there it seems he got a lot of pleasure our of playing
> the troll, but you were, and are, always here to weigh down your
> corner. Dan's adversarial stance combined with his rather spoiled the
> atmosphere. And as long as you need deflating it shall continue to be
> done, with or without Jim. Deities don't only speak Gaelic,especially
> on this continent.
>
> helgaleena RDNA
I've seen other people act inappropriately at funerals and memorials.
It seems that a.r.d. is not much different than other places. You can
have and express your opinions anywhere you like but it would have
been better if you had not done it here.
Oh well! :-(
Searles O'Dubhain
Searles O'Dubhain
wrote:
> Jim originally opposed me vehemently here,
> and then came around to supporting and acknowledging me ,
> Befriending me,
> emailing me personally from time to time
> on matters that are private now for all time.
>
> Typically, you seek to re-open old wounds. to cause division, trouble
> and strife -
>
> GET THEE HENCE, CREATURE :-)
>
> Nothing further need be said.- Hide quoted text -
> -
Michael,
It seems that some folks here have the sensitivity of a brick or
perhaps it is that manners no longer exist in much of the world?
There's lots we disagree on Michael but on this topic of respecting
the dead we are 100% in agreement.
Searles O'Dubhain
An Coibhi Drui
Here in Ireland we do not dance on anybody's grave - even the graves
of our worst enemies in life. Though Jim died my friend, I would still
defend his grave even if he were my enemy, that is the way we are
brought up here.
It looks as if there are a couple of others here on ard from other
places who delight in driving JCBs over people's graves, they do
nothing for themselves or their native lands by their behaviour.
Michael .
Sadly
Michael Magrath
And now, as Druids, we should celebrate Jim's life on Earth, celebrate
the fact that he was one of us, part of the body Druid, and we should
not concern ourselves about whether he opposed us or befriended us or
not, or whether we liked him or not in his incarnation now passed.
He was a good American, he did his bit for his country in the Korean
War ( though nobody should have to prove themselves for their country
through war - there are much better ways, as we all know ) , but Jim
did it, and he did it with courage, and he was always justly proud of
it afterwards .
Maybe some member here will go through the archives and select some of
Jim's incomparable witticisms, or better his genuine contributions
that they liked reflecting on life , Druidism, his love of the land,
and even on ourselves - he made me crnnge at times ! Other times he
made me feel great to think that there was a man out there in the west
of America who deeply cared for Druidry, who was so spirited despite
advancing age and the Inevitable, who sparkled with much more energy
than many a young lad , and above all a man who made a success of his
life and obviously inspired those around him, a forceful character of
who drove people on, that's what we need in Druidry, people like
Jim .
One of my regrets in life is that I never met this larger-than-life
character , Jim. It's so sad.....
Cheers,
Michael .
Noinden
I have enough respect for the old coot to not pretend I ever liked
him. You show him no honor by pretending to be sad at his passing
Charles.
Oh wait I got a message from the grave for you.
Eat Shit and die punk.
Noinden
I am respecting him. I did not publish for all and sundry that he had
paassed on to the next spin of the wheel. IT was not my place. I was
not his friend, I was not kin. IF he had wanted any to know of his
passing he would have made sure that it happened.
He hated your guts Charles, and mine. Yet I had the respect to not
pretend I felt anything beyond what I do. You however are making this
a PR moment. You must be very desperate to get the slumberlands
noticed ;)
Michael Magrath
Noinden, I don't think that Jim truly ' hated' anybody, I got vibes
from Jim that this was not his way, especially in his emails to me. I
am living evidence of this - I crossed swords with Jim as much as
Searles ever did, yet we ended up with great time for one another. And
though Dan and Jim fell out , Jim did not ' hate' Dan either ! And I
know that Dan does not hate the memory of his friend Jim, I think that
Dan quietly cherishes that memory and the special relationship he had
with Jim above all here.
True, Jim had many a snarl-up with Searles but I thought it was great
fun, I'm sure we all did, and I think that Jim meant it to be that
way . I even laughed out loud at some of Jim's barbs at me on ARD, he
had a lethal tongue when he got going ( a very sharp brain ! ) , but
he was far too good-natured to ' hate' anybody.
Jim was a hard man , but with a great soft-hearted and kind nature
behind that hard-bitten exterior, you could learn from him, we all
could , and Druidry would be the better for it .
Of course Searles is correct in informing the members here so we can
all pay our respects, and I thank Searles for this. ARD was after all
Jim's second home far more than it is mine or will ever be ! And in
his own way he loved everybody here, much as we all loved Jim.
I am not writing this just to contradict you, but to try to put it all
into perspective , as we should all put this life that we love, into
perspective too, especially those of us upon whom the years close in.
And the one thing I figure about Jim and Searles, they were very alike
- because you could trust either of them with your life !!!
Try to have a good day here today.
BTW Jim never even mentioned you in any of his private emails to me,
good, bad or indifferent , so I don't know how you can make out that
he ' hated' you ? Beyond assuring you of this, I am not going to
discuss the contents of those emails now that he is, sadly, gone from
us in this life .
( BTW I do not ' hate' anybody either , not even Con or Dr. Dwyer, I
totally dislike them, but I do not hate them, we are all here for a
purpose, yourself included - unfortunately !!! ) .
Cheers,
Michael .
Noinden
>
> - Show quoted text -
Mikey, I've spoken with people who knew Jim longer than you, and meet
him for real. I trust their take on it over your misty eyed
rememberance.
1X2Willows
> On Oct 12, 4:34 pm, "Searles O'Dubhain" wrote:
>> On Oct 12, 12:46 pm, Noinden wrote:
>>
>>> You start Fish head. I knew he had passed a while back, and I did
>>> NOT bring it up. Yet here we have Charlie and you using his passing
>>> to your own advantage.
>>
>> You are even more of an ass than I already thought.
>>
>> Searles
>
> I have enough respect for the old coot to not pretend I ever liked
> him. You show him no honor by pretending to be sad at his passing
> Charles.
>
> Oh wait I got a message from the grave for you.
>
> Eat Shit and die punk.
ROFL! sounds authentic allright!!!
1X2Willows
Noinden wrote:
>
> Mikey, I've spoken with people who knew Jim longer than you, and
> meet him for real. I trust their take on it over your misty eyed
> rememberance.
Can anyone please get it over with and go shoot that Victorian Preacher.
Simply to puke for, all this sesquipedalian saccharine
Noinden
>
> - Show quoted text -
I did miss the all caps and the !!!!! but I'm not usually one to
channel the dead ;)
Michael Magrath
Perhaps it is our Irish tradition, our way of life, our thinking, our
depth of compassion and understanding that is different in meeting
with and comprehending death, and if so I celebrate that difference.
Certainly from my travels in other more 'progressive', more
'advanced', more 'modern' and indeed more cynical and worldly-wise
lands and societies it would seem so. Every week, several times a week
at times, slow walking funerals occupy the main streets and high
streets of our cities and towns in reverence for the dead, and I hope,
indeed I believe that this will never stop, even though it can bring
all traffic and business to a halt slap bang in the middle of a
working day, with dozens of vehicles and hundreds of slowly walking
mourners chatting all about the deceased and his or her great virtues
as they amble leisurely along behind the dead-slow hearse - never a
word , of course about it even if he was a bit of a rogue in life.
Extra police are out to halt or redirect traffic. In Ireland you
cannot die privately, you are not allowed to, and for most people it
is the biggest public show they will ever have. Doesn't matter whether
you're rich or poor or otherwise, you are going to have your big day
whether you like it or not . And thanks to Searles, and my
persistence, Jim is having his big Irish day right now, and looking
down here and enjoying it all . And I , for one, am going to take my
time, Irish style, in saying Goodbye to Jim, though everything else
come to a halt !
Cheers,
Michael.
Michael Magrath
And the Irish don't need newspapers or radio or television or internet
to tell us of every death - the news flashes like lightning from shop
to street to bookies to pub all across the city or town, immediately -
it is the talk of the pubs, often the main topic , and, so, three days
later as the funeral cortege turns to slowly wind its way up the main
street on its slow way across town, with Church bells pealing out
across the city, shops, businesses and pubs - especially the latter !
- reverentally close their doors. Woe betide that pub that doesn't
shut its doors on time - it will lose an awful lot of business before
it is forgiven .
When it finally arrives in the graveyard, politicians, dignitaries and
other local VIPs line the graveside to meet with and synpathise in
person with the bereaved.
The funerals can vary in size from a couple of dozen walkers to
thousands - I was staggered that four thousand walkers joined my own
fathers funeral as it proceeded slpwly and solemnly like a great snake
across Kilkenny city, a sure sign that he had done right in life - he
was buried 27 years ago on Patrick's Day, not arranged, it just
happened that way .( he was Ambulance Transport Controller for
Kilkenny ) .
And, so, from my background, I am convinced that everybody ever
associated with ARD should turn out here for Jim, in remembrance of a
Druid, an Irish-American Druid and a good one too. Several here have
paid their respects to Jim already and I know that there will yet me
more as we all join in the communion of our grief at the sad tidings
that Searles has brought us in dignity of the death of one of our
own .
For if a person have no respect for the dead, he or she does not
belong in Druidry - or in Ireland either !
" Did the play the pipes lowly,
Did they beat the drums slowly,
Did they sound the Last Post
as they lowered him down,
Did the band play the Last March and Chorus -
Did the Pipes play the Flowers of the Forest ? "
In sadness,
Michael.
Michael Magrath
( perhaps Dan will try to behave himself and refrain from changing the
title of this, Jim's Last Thread, or be good enough to leave Druidry
forever ) .
Michael Magrath
> I went in search of this information and found it on a listing of
> Social Security Administration death notices:
>
> JAMES FRANK ONELLION 15 Jan 1933 17 Nov 2008 (P) 95820 (Sacramento,
> Sacramento, CA) (none specified) 567-36-1034 California
>
> The (P) above indicates that the information was verified using the
> actual death certificate issued ib Sacremento.
>
> Jim's last postings here were about two months prior to the date given
> above.
>
> I had many disagreements with Jim while he was posting here. Most of
> these centered around his attacks on the ideas of religion and deities
> in Druidism. I hope that he has found his truth in another life beyond
> death's doorway.
>
I think that whatever killed Jim must have attacked him then two
months before his death, that he was probably removed to hospital
then, or to other care facility, away from his compiter, so that he
found that suddenly he couldn't post and therefore could not leave us
any last messages ?
Michael.
Searles O'Dubhain
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I'd heard that he was planning to go to a "mountain man" gathering in
the mountains at close to the time that his death certificate says he
died. He frequented forums associated with this activity as "Primitive
Jim."
My father-in-law was a similar sort of person, living in his hunting
camp much of the year. He was a flyer and a ship captain as well as a
master sergeant. He was in both WWII and the Korean Conflict. He
taught survival training and was a crack shot. He also was one of the
toughest men I've ever met but I respected him because he was always
true to his word. If he told someone that he was going to do
something, he would do it (for better or worse). He was planning a
camping trip in the weeks before he died but death caught him in his
82nd year before he could go.
Men who live in the out of doors world of Nature deserve the chance to
embrace Her when they leave their bodies behind. I think fondly of my
father-in-law huntsing somewhere in another life. Maybe some day, Jim
will be able to give us a message or a sign of his own aftyerlife or
next life existence? If he's chosen not to have one, that's OK too.
His energy might empower a mountain lion or two.
Searles O'Dubhain
Jim
news:f87ccc76-9c45-46a9...@f16g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
I used to know two different woman who were bipolar/manic and who knows
what. One moment they were just fine and the next they were absolutely
rabid.
Mc Grath is obviously the worst case scenario.
Everything he ever said that made any sense at all has now been totally over
ridden by his madness.
However, now I can relax and let him be the one to rain on the ARD parade
for a while.
Do you have a plan of any kind?
Jim
An Coibhi Drui
> "Searles O'Dubhain" <odubhai...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Cripes, the Dead speak, what will happen next on ARD ???
Searles O'Dubhain
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The person posting as "Jim" should be ashamed (especially since they
went to the great lengths of spoofing his email address). The
"softcon" instead of "softcome" gives it away.
Searles
Noinden
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No more ashamed than you with your fake tears!
Michael Magrath
Well spotted, Searles, I'll give you two guesses !
Yes, this is the Pits !
Michael .
Michael Magrath
And now, Searles I'll give you one guess, and we would be right .
Michael Magrath
Get out of Druidry, Go Away, you have disgraced yourself impersonating
a dead friend of ours over the net, you blackguard !!!
Michael,
AD Ireland .
Noinden
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What makes you think that was me Michael? I only play the wolfshirt
when it's serious work.
SO try again.
Searles is the one disgracing himself, by faking his sadness at the
passing of the old goat. I'm honoring his memory in so far as I am
pricking Charlies ego. Jim and Seales dispenced with the virtue of
hospitality years ago. Before your time. They were antagonistic from
that point on. I don't like Charles and I did not like Jim. However
Searles is not living the Na Buanna at this point and I'll be damned
if I don't speak up.
Noinden
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You would be wrong. I don't sock puppet. I never have.
Michael Magrath
The Fake Jim message is tracerouted to Wisconsin USA !
Noinden
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No it's not you twit.
Michael Magrath
By a colleasue of mine, Graduate in Distributed Systems,
reported immediately to me .
Noinden
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Post proof. I know I did not post that ;)
Michael Magrath
On computer in the Institution concerned,
cannot be relayed out and used as proof,
result relayed to me by mobile phone -
Wisconsin source is proof enough !
Noinden
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Nice try Mic but proof is via quantitative evidence, say the trace
root. Not hearsay.
Back in the killfile for you.
Michael Magrath
Don't dare do anything like that again !
Michael Magrath
Faking a posting from a dead man,
where is your mind at ?
And you think that is Druidry ???
What is happening here !
Michael Magrath
Michael Magrath
Your killfile is a place of honour !
And to think I came here three years ago as an innocent Irish Druid,
but it doesn't take long to wake up and smell the stench here !
Felber and you have destroyed ARD,
Sweet shagall left here !
Michael,
AD Ireland
healingline
wrote:
> On Oct 12, 2:58 pm, helgaleena <helgalee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 11, 12:07 am, "Searles O'Dubhain" <odubhai...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I went in search of this information and found it on a listing of
> > > Social Security Administration death notices:
>
> > > JAMES FRANK ONELLION 15 Jan 1933 17 Nov 2008 (P) 95820 (Sacramento,
> > > Sacramento, CA) (none specified) 567-36-1034 California
>
> > > The (P) above indicates that the information was verified using the
> > > actual death certificate issued ib Sacremento.
>
> > > Jim's last postings here were about two months prior to the date given
> > > above.
>
> > > I had many disagreements with Jim while he was posting here. Most of
> > > these centered around his attacks on the ideas of religion and deities
> > > in Druidism. I hope that he has found his truth in another life beyond
> > > death's doorway.
>
> > > Searles O'Dubhain
>
> > fundamentalist dressup stance, Charles. And ethnically he had more
> > Celt in him than many. Got up your nose when he insisted that being
> > aware of our earth might have nothing to do with just one culture's
> > take on it.
>
> > Let's hope you find as much truth as that Before your 'other life'.
>
> > Toward the end there it seems he got a lot of pleasure our of playing
> > the troll, but you were, and are, always here to weigh down your
> > corner. Dan's adversarial stance combined with his rather spoiled the
> > atmosphere. And as long as you need deflating it shall continue to be
> > done, with or without Jim. Deities don't only speak Gaelic,especially
> > on this continent.
>
> > helgaleena RDNA
>
> And, by the way, neither you ( whoever you are to come barging in here
> like a loud-mouthed Yank , as you do) nor that Swiss fella, nor that
> brash Kiwi braggart , are fit to polish Searles's boots !!!
>
> Searles O'Dubhainn is one of the most popular and respected Irish-
> American Druids on the planet !
>
> There are people who love to read his contributions here, long may he
> thrive - and keep the rest of us here informed despite a cabal of
> three or so here wanting to keep this forum to themselves, to the
> disregard and disrespect of everybody else here .
>
> Michael .
>
> Cheers,
> Michael .- Hide quoted text -
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Thou complete and utter noob, I belong to the oldest North American
Druid tradition after Jim's own, and I consider myself doctrinally
allied with him. We share many cultural similarities in background
despite having never met and as to my using the term Troll for his
posting style, he himself proudly used that term for himself, both on
and off group.
It was not I who brought him up, it was Charlie, using his nerd skills
to find evidence of Jim's passing which Jim himself did not want
announced here.
Whoever I am, I don't need to tell you more unless you are curious and
approach me privately.
Take your 'memorial' away to the Summerlands.
healingline RDNA
healingline
> On Oct 12, 10:58 am, helgaleena <helgalee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > You know what? Jim was just as Druid as you and your Celtocentric
> > fundamentalist dressup stance, Charles. And ethnically he had more
> > Celt in him than many. Got up your nose when he insisted that being
> > aware of our earth might have nothing to do with just one culture's
> > take on it.
>
> > Let's hope you find as much truth as that Before your 'other life'.
>
> > Toward the end there it seems he got a lot of pleasure our of playing
> > the troll, but you were, and are, always here to weigh down your
> > corner. Dan's adversarial stance combined with his rather spoiled the
> > atmosphere. And as long as you need deflating it shall continue to be
> > done, with or without Jim. Deities don't only speak Gaelic,especially
> > on this continent.
>
> > helgaleena RDNA
>
> It seems that a.r.d. is not much different than other places. You can
> have and express your opinions anywhere you like but it would have
> been better if you had not done it here.
>
> Oh well! :-(
>
> Searles O'Dubhain- Hide quoted text -
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All inappropriateness is in your own eyeballs, Charles. This is
Usenet, not your Summerlands, and if Jim had wanted his Soc Sec info
plastered here, I am sure he would have asked for such.
That was rude in any culture.
helgaleena, who has enjoyed a joust or three with you myself and
wishes YOU had let the dead rest
Searles O'Dubhain
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Michael,
The news server people (ab...@eternal-september.org) are tracking it
down because it's a violation of their TOS.
Searles
An Coibhi Drui
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thanks Searles, no problem - my colleague is a real Ph.D in Computer
Science,
it would take all the concentrated power of such as NASA to track
him !!!!
Try tracking a Computer Science professor at UCLA - he was there !
Cheers,
Michael .
Kent
> And to think I came here three years ago as an innocent Irish Druid,
> but it doesn't take long to wake up and smell the stench here !
> Felber and you have destroyed ARD,
> Sweet shagall left here !
>
> Michael,
> AD Ireland
Irish? I'll give you that.
Innocent? HAH! Yeah! Right! Sure! ROTFLMAO!
Druid? Not in this life, the next, or any other!
An Coibhi Drui
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I don't think that it was a question of what Jim wanted - our friendly
email discussions between Jim and me suddenly cut off at the time !
The attack he suffered was obviously sudden, so sudden that I''d
postulate a a stroke-like attack.
Certainly Jim fell totally helpless to communicate with anybody - he
was actively fighting with Dan at the time,
and all that stress caused by Dan would have contributed to his death,
another reason why I just laugh off all the shyte posted here - and
never let Dan get to me,
because if anybody killed Jim it was Dan's viciouss verbal assaults on
him here -
it certainly didn't help !!!
Michael .
1X2Willows
>
> Michael,
>
> The news server people (ab...@eternal-september.org) are tracking it
> down because it's a violation of their TOS.
>
> Searles
The hell it was and you know it Charles
It was me and you know that too, don'tcha'.
Shouldn't have gone there.
An Coibhi Drui
> On Oct 14, 7:43 am, Michael Magrath <photog.magr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > And to think I came here three years ago as an innocent Irish Druid,
> > but it doesn't take long to wake up and smell the stench here !
> > Felber and you have destroyed ARD,
> > Sweet shagall left here !
>
> > Michael,
> > AD Ireland
>
> Irish? I'll give you that.
>
> Innocent? HAH! Yeah! Right! Sure! ROTFLMA
>
Good morning Dan,
trying to stress me out as you did to Jim,
won't work here old boy -
I am up after a good sleep,
off across town for my leisurely Dawn walk
with Shirma my dog
You see ARD does not matter to me
as it did to Jim,
I have a score of more important other interests
in my life,
many such interests outside of Druidy -
so you can't drive up my blood pressure as you did to Jim,
but you are the most evil bastard I have come across,
just like Jim said you were
the time he asked you to leave his home pronto
So it is yourself that you are stressing out
and killing,
not me.
Have a miserable day as usual ,
Michael . .
An Coibhi Drui
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Helgalena - what a ridiculous name for an even more ridiculous person !
An Coibhi Drui
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My colleague states that he does not know what you are talking about,
Searles ?
An Coibhi Drui
Yes, Felber, you FAKED a message fron a DEAD MAN and emailed it to
your crony Noinden to post , you snivelling sneak - it's all traced .
Michael Magrath
wrote:
On Oct 15, 6:46 am, An Coibhi Drui <photographerofkilke...@gmail.com>
wrote:
You FAKED a Message yesterday purporting it to come from a DEAD MAN,
Jim, and emailed it to your nasty little confederate , the Noinden
fella, to post here - it is all traced and verified, it is the truth,
so personally I don't care about TOS because it's the truth as they
will find. And in any case I did not do the tracerouting, the results
were phoned to me by the expert who carried it out .And I simply
mentioned those results here, no fault whatsoever in that, all I was
doing was repoorting the truth as I always will.
Felber, you have descended back into the lower abyss of the Pit now,
you are beyond disgust itself :-)
Michael .
Michael Magrath
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And now I would like to have everybody here turn our minds back to
remembering Jim our friend, yours and mine, whose tragic passing we
are informed about by Searles, and we thank Searles for this. We turn
our minds back to Jim, despite all attempts by a couple of the
perverted here, to distract and confuse our ongoing Remembrance of our
dearly departed brother and friend Jim. Something I am sure that will
delight all Jim's friends is to hear that he applied for membership of
- and we entered Jim into our Irish Druid Order shortly before his
death. So he died not only as a leading First American spiritual but
also as the Irish Druid he always wanted to be, as he was entitled to
be as he was a Dalcassian by inheritance . Let this Great Fact be
inscibed forever to his great memory - Jim died as a true Irish
Druid !
Cheers,
Michael,
AD Ireland.
Michael Magrath
1X2Willows
The vermin and cock roaches are starting to eat their children.
That's what this is all about
Michael Magrath
Michael Magrath
Michael Magrath
Michael Magrath
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Shame on you, Felber, for trying to use the news of the sad and tragic
death of Jim as fodder to engineer an attack on Searles !
I am far to honourable an Irish Druid to allow you and your minion
Noinden to pursue such a sickening tactic which is beyond disgust !
Now, we should all be using our psychic energies in a positive way
offering them up to assure Jim's passage in his new existence in which
he is but a babe right now, but a babe more powerful than all of us
put together.
You shall feel the wrath of that babe yet, Felber !
May you die roaring :-)
Michael,
AD Ireland
Michael Magrath
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Celtic Reconstructionist' whatever that is ! For there are none such
here iin Ireland or Britain, the Lands of Origin of Druidry. Just as
your minion Noinden is similar spawn of Orange Scottish Lowlander
Planters from New Zealand, a land notorious to this day for
Freemasonic discrimination against the Irish, Britain's sheep farm
that's New Zealand, also ashamed of his desent from the original
inhabitants of New Zealand, the Maoris, who still, by the way, possess
animal-like powers, this Noinden who is despised and barred by the
Pagans of Milwaukee, banished from their meetings and from their
midst ! Neither you nor your minion Noinden are wanted here by
anybody, on another thread here, you, Felber, have just been told
simply to ' Fuck Off ' - that's a measure of what people here think of
you now , posting in here under three different names over eleven
years - and even talking to yourself under those three names on many
occasions throughout the years - what would you call that ? Me, I call
it Insanity !
Michael Magrath
>
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( Americans should note that these charcters Dan. T Felber and his
minion Noinden are not originally from America , but rather Green Card
men - with relief ! )
Michael Magrath
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And there is to be said for it that Felber does not take a job from an
American - he never worked in his life, nor is he likely to now .
helga...@gmail.com
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How extraordinary that you should think so, and also not be able to
spell it. Can't let Charles fend for himself here? Must dash forward
to insult? some Taliesin you are.
I shall remain ridiculous to you until you educate yourself about me,
but I am not going to bother as it would imply that I value your
opinion. I'm the only one on Google btw.
h
An Coibhi Drui
wrote:
Taliesin is not of my Irish tradition,
educate yourself before you open your mouth again,
Then again if you don't educate yourself, that's your own business,
nothing to do with me or my Druids.
( The fact that you align yourself with the likes of the Swiss German
Felber and his minion Noinden shows poor judgement from the
start ) .
Cheers,
Michael .
helga...@gmail.com
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I am not aligned with anything except Nature and any attempt to debate
with you merely makes you think that all others are against you
together. No, we disagree with you individually. I am not allies with
them, unless keeping one another on our toes for years here is
alliance.
That is paranoia; take care.
helgaleena the ridiculous
An Coibhi Drui
Yes you are ridiculous,
not very intelligent,
definitely not well-read,
just a li8ttle fool,
so whi cares !!!
Cheers,
Michael .