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mattmatical

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Dec 28, 2003, 4:25:09 PM12/28/03
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Listening to "Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)" earlier today
and the imminent end of 2003 got me wondering about where
hip-hop will be 10 years from now.

Which of today's key players will still be relevant?
Will hip-hop enjoy as much chart success, or more, or less?
Will successful white rappers become a common sight?
Which of today's artists will be the object of nostalgia?
Will the fragmentation of the hip-hop genre continue?

The thing is, back in 1993, I couldn't have predicted a Puff Daddy
the way he is known today, music like Timbaland's, a tag like 'nerd
rap', a Ying Yang Twins/Britney Spears collaboration (or something
similarly odd by '93 standards), Will Smith's incredible box office
success, Eminem, or anything of that kind.

The only things I could have guessed were that Dr. Dre would still
be around in 2003 and that hip-hop would be getting more diverse,
regionally, stylistically, and also ethnically.

That's why at the moment, I'm looking forward to 2013 and I'm
sure hip-hop will still be around, but I have absolutely no idea in
what shape or fashion. Anybody willing to take a guess?


Matt
"I don't train for sprints,
I train for marathons." (Evidence)

Augi

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Dec 28, 2003, 9:03:33 PM12/28/03
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I'll try give my humble opinion in another posting, but your post made
me wanna look back at what cats in alt.rap in 1993 were saying Hip Hop
would be 10 years from now... I just find it interesting to see what
cats were predicting back then to get an idea how accurate we will be.
It would be interesting to see somebody in 2013 delve through the
archives and look at where we said Hip Hip would be 10 years from now,
etc...
Anyway, the link to the thread from '93 is below...

http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2C8418E6

Augi

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Augi

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Dec 28, 2003, 9:47:23 PM12/28/03
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Since I started listening to Hip Hop in '92 back in elementary I'm
almost never right in my predictions... back then I would've never
thought West Coast gangsta rap would eventually "die out..." I thought
it was here to stay. By '97 with the explosion of shiny suit rap and
the death of Death Row, I realized I was wrong. I also thought Death
Row would be a powerhouse for at least a decade.

Back in '95 & '96 I thought the East Coast/ West Coast beef would stay
in Hip Hop for a long time... for example here in 2004 it would still
be going on.

In '97 after Biggie died, I thought it would escalate, and more
rappers would be getting killed back & forth, and Hip Hop was on the
brink of collapse. Thank God it got squashed. I guess niggas was
shook.

In '99 when Dr. Dre dropped 2001 and talks of an NWA reunion album and
several other West Coasts cats dropping platinum hits, I thought the
West was back... that resurgence only lasted like 2 years.

And up until No Limit blew up in late '97, I would've never conceived
of the thought that The South would make a mark it has made in Hip
Hop. I only thought of rap as being West Coast and East Coast. Now
they're bigger than the West and just as big, if not bigger, than the
East in terms of mainstream and sales. I just couldn't see it
happening -- I only knew of OutKast & Scarface, who were in the back
of my mind. That's like telling me the Northwest will blow up in less
than 10 years. Rappers from Seattle, Montana, Idaho, & North Dakota.
Or Alaska and Hawaii will be the new forefront of rap. It just
wouldn't cross my mind.

So basically I'm never right in my predictions. But I just realize
that shit doesn't last forever... so in turn it only gives me better
ideas for predictions further down the road.

So I think by 2013-2014, rap in America will still be predominantly
black, but more diversified. You'll see more whites and Hispanics, and
maybe a few races that you might perceive as being out of the ordinary
for rap, like Native Americans, Arabs, Asian, etc. Some will find this
as positive for Hip Hop, and others won't. As a result this will
create new warring faction in Hip Hop and might generate something
interesting. Also this throwback craze will die out, and like Hip
Hop's predecessors, the heads of the future will invent their own
style. Hip Hop went from afros to flat-tops to high top fades (gumbys,
slopes, etc) to jherri curls & perms on the West Coast to close-cut
fades. Now most cats just rock the even-stevens with the tight
line-ups with the v-point sideburns. Or the mini-fro with the taper or
the short dreads. And those who grew their hair out rock the 'rows. It
seems like there is only so much you can do with hair, so who knows
where it will be years from now.

I think Hip Hop will continue to lose its rebellious touch that put
fear into traditional America and made it popular among inner-city
youth, and soon suburban youth. And "hip hop clothing lines" will also
become the norm as well, and will be worn by all races and ages and
social backgrounds, along with Abercrombie & Fitch and Levi. Cause
more and more I'll see man in his 50's with a FUBU jacket on or some
skater rock-n-roll enthusiast in some Sean John jeans.

And I think the music will be less sampled, and more "created beats".
It will be easier for independent up-and-coming cats to produce their
own albums with technology these days, with beats, editing, touching
up, and giving it that studio-quality sound; the whole nine...

Damn I'm tired of typing.



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truplaya611

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Dec 29, 2003, 6:41:37 PM12/29/03
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"mattmatical" <dont...@try.it> wrote in message
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> Listening to "Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)" earlier today
> and the imminent end of 2003 got me wondering about where
> hip-hop will be 10 years from now.
>
> Which of today's key players will still be relevant?

The Neptunes, Kanye West, 50 Cent/G-Unit (just to name a few)....

> Will hip-hop enjoy as much chart success, or more, or less?

I think there will be even more crossover success.

> Will successful white rappers become a common sight?

If they're not wack.

> Which of today's artists will be the object of nostalgia?

?...any one hit wonders.

> Will the fragmentation of the hip-hop genre continue?

Due to the array of styles, yes.


jorges...@gmail.com

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Mar 2, 2014, 8:58:12 AM3/2/14
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Damn...

11 years later, you were pretty much correct besides the G Unit thing, we'll see how 50 cent does with his new album.

hashi...@gmail.com

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narly...@gmail.com

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Mar 10, 2014, 8:38:24 AM3/10/14
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"created beats" dats da shit were at now and I love it
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