Stepped-On X
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: A query for the general masses:
:
: Recently, I've been hearing assorted rumor that a large amount of extasy
: circulating in my area (NYC & surrounding sprawl) is being stepped-on in
: a very nasty way. With heroin.
This rumor is a staple of the completely unknowedgeable drug using
population, and you will hear it in clubs and schools all around
the world. While I am not a street drug analysis statistician, I can
offer several reasons why this rumor needs to be sunk along with
"strychnnine in blotter acid!" and "Ecstacy makes you so horny,
this kids sister I knew ran into a bowling alley and started fucking
all the bowling pins !!!!"
1.) Heroin is expensive. A gram of pure(er) heroin is most likely
more expensive than a gram of decent racemic MDMA. It
is *substantially* more expensive around here. Street drugs
are cut or stepped on so the dealer can make a bigger profit
not so he will lose.
2.) street Heroin is injected i.v. by most american users
. It can be taken orally, but you need a substantially
higher dose to achieve the same effects. This would
cause the "heroin cutting X distributer' to lose
a lot of money.
; One of these rumors comes to me from a
: cleaned-up hype, who partook of one of these tainted tabs, and related
: that it definately agitated his old sweet-tooth...sudden bout of nausea,
: followed by an unusually 'flat' x trip.
I've never taken Heroin, but if it's anything like other strong
narcotics....it's nothing like MDMA. Who would it fool? Who would
come back and buy more of the same tabs? Certanly not anyone
who's ever done good Ecstasy before. I would avoid those tabs
like the plague, and spread the word.
: Now, this strikes me as rather suspect. I would think that, if X were cut
: with anything (psycho)active, it'd be a stimulant...methadrine for example.
That would make a bit more finnancial and pharmacological sense, if
one were to be intrested in cutting something so dose specific, and
experimintal as MDMA. Ecstasy works so specially on me, you likely
couldn't fool me with any simple cns stimulant.
Most street drugs are either cut with intert substances to add bulk, or
cheap drugs with similar properties. Crystal methamphetamin could be
cut with Ephedrin, coke with lidocaine, etc.
: So I'm rather skeptical about these rumors. Hence: has anyone else heard
: of this ugly X + smack combo? Is this chemically feasible? Does this present
: any possible 'bad synergy' complications? (This last, I doubt...I'd think that
: the two, if anything, counteract each other.)
Yes. I've heard it all over FL, CA, IL...on the internet..eveywhere.
Don't believ it. it makes little sense. Why would one cut a psychedelic
phenthylamine w/ stimulant properties (like ecstasy), with a powerful
narcotic painkiller and still stay in business?
Don;t believe the hype.
: The only rationale I can think of: someone is looking to establish a, ah,
: 'repeat-clientele'. Ugly, I say. Ugly.
I doubt many people do enough MDMA at the typical cost to $25+ per dose,
to develop a narcotic addiciton.
NICK LEZARD
dilute it with something cheaper than heroin. And heroin is something
that you have to take regularly, over quite a period of time, before you
develop an addiction. (Believe me, I know about this. ) It sounds like
it was cut with a barbiturate, or perhaps GHB or even Ketamine, all of
which are depressants, and could -especially in the case of barbs -
reawaken a heroin-user's taste-buds. But as for the cut-with-smack
rumour... look, heroin is what you dilute to make money. When you're
selling methylated spirits, you don't dilute it with scotch.
Rev. Ian Monroe
: A query for the general masses:
:
: Recently, I've been hearing assorted rumor that a large amount of extasy
: circulating in my area (NYC & surrounding sprawl) is being stepped-on in
: cleaned-up hype, who partook of one of these tainted tabs, and related
: that it definately agitated his old sweet-tooth...sudden bout of nausea,
: followed by an unusually 'flat' x trip.
: with anything (psycho)active, it'd be a stimulant...methadrine for example.
: of this ugly X + smack combo? Is this chemically feasible? Does this present
: any possible 'bad synergy' complications? (This last, I doubt...I'd think that
: the two, if anything, counteract each other.)
: 'repeat-clientele'. Ugly, I say. Ugly.
:
Among these, LSD, heroin, and PCP to name a few. Apparantly, these drugs
are mixed (in varying combinations and quantities) and made into a form
which I have heard refered to as wafers. This info comes from a friend
who has a friend who deals X, and it is things like this that have kept
me from trying X. Again, I have not seen the procedure first hand, so I
would be interested in corroboration.
Ian