Neo-Fascism on the Rise in America and Europe - thanks to Putin/Assad 'Weaponizing Refugees'

[Jonathan]

Does this description ring a Donald Trump bell?


"...ideology that...usually includes ultra nationalism,
populism, anti-immigration policies...and opposition
to the parliamentary system and liberal democracy.


Here's the full description


Neo-fascism is a post–World War II ideology that
includes significant elements of fascism. Neo-fascism
usually includes ultranationalism, populism,
anti-immigration policies or, where relevant,
nativism, anti-communism, anti-Marxism,
anti-anarchism and opposition to the parliamentary
system and liberal democracy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-fascism


Fascists advocate a mixed economy, with the principal goal
of achieving autarky through protectionist and
interventionist economic policies.


"Mussolini stated that fascism's position on the political
spectrum was not a serious issue to fascists: "Fascism,
sitting on the right, could also have sat on the mountain
of the center."


"Benito Mussolini in 1919 described fascism as a movement
that would strike "against the backwardness of the right
and the destructiveness of the left". Later, the Italian
Fascists described their ideology as right-wing in the
political program The Doctrine of Fascism, stating:

"We are free to believe that this is the century of authority"

The theme was based on a revolt against positivism, bourgeois
society and democracy. The fin-de-siècle generation
supported emotionalism, irrationalism, subjectivism
and vitalism.

The fin-de-siècle mindset saw civilization as being
in a crisis that required a massive and total solution.

"One common definition of the term focuses on three concepts:

..and a political aesthetic of romantic symbolism, mass mobilization,
a positive view of violence, and promotion of masculinity, youth
and charismatic leadership.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism



This is what's known as a 'turning point'.
It's time to stand up for what we truly
believe in, and be counted.

Freedom and democracy is the solution to the
horrors-of-humanity.

Not hate, racism, intolerance or strong-man knee jerk
decisiveness. We can all see where that is taking
Russia for instance, circling the drain...



Jonathan



The Bone that has no Marrow,
What Ultimate for that?
It is not fit for Table
For Beggar or for Cat.

A Bone has obligations
A Being has the same
A Marrowless Assembly
Is culpabler than shame.

But how shall finished Creatures
A function fresh obtain?
Old Nicodemus' Phantom
Confronting us again!




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[Jonathan]

"They’re bringing drugs.They’re bringing crime.
They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people!
But I speak to border guards and they tell us what
we’re getting. And it only makes common sense.
They’re sending us not the right people.
It’s coming from more than Mexico. It’s coming
from all over South and Latin America, and
it’s coming probably from the Middle East.
But we don’t know. Because we have no protection
and we have no competence, we don’t know
what’s happening.

And it’s got to stop and it’s got to stop fast.”

~Trump




"The black-haired Jewish youth lies in wait for hours
on end, satanically glaring at and spying on the
unsuspicious girl whom he plans to seduce, adulterating
her blood and removing her from the bosom of her
own people.

“that bacillus which is the solvent of human society,
the Jew.”

“a real leech who clings to the body of his
unfortunate victim and cannot be removed.”

~Hitler




“They refer to me as an uneducated barbarian.
Yes, we are barbarians. We want to be barbarians,
it is an honored title to us. We shall
rejuvenate the world.

~Hitler




"I love the poorly educated! We’re the smartest people,
we’re the most loyal people.”

~Trump








"Don't worry folks," Trump said, smiling.
"We're going to be building the wall."

"And who is going to pay for it?" he called.

"Mexico!" returned the crowd.

Video of Trump rally
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/03/04/donald_trump_crowd_in_michigan_chants_build_the_wall_build_the_wall.html







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[Fight for America!]

On 6/25/2016 10:29 AM, Jonathan wrote:
>
> Does this description ring a Donald Trump bell?
>
>
> "...ideology that...usually includes ultra nationalism,
> populism, anti-immigration policies...and opposition
> to the parliamentary system and liberal democracy.
>

Nope.

1. Nationalism is patriotism - hth.

2. Populism = will of the voters.

3. Immigration must ONLY be legal.

4. We have no parliament, toad-face.

5. Liberal Democracy is a contradiction in terms and perfiormabnce.

Now FUCK OFF AND DIE TRAITOR!

[Oleg Smirnov]

Jonathan, <news:H9OdnRINOfxULfPK...@giganews.com>

> "...ideology that...usually includes ultra nationalism,
> populism, anti-immigration policies...and opposition
> to the parliamentary system and liberal democracy.
>
> Here's the full description
>

> Neo-fascism is a post-World War II ideology that

> includes significant elements of fascism. Neo-fascism
> usually includes ultranationalism, populism,
> anti-immigration policies or, where relevant,
> nativism, anti-communism, anti-Marxism,
> anti-anarchism and opposition to the parliamentary
> system and liberal democracy.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-fascism

Post-coup Ukraine fits well here. No 'anti-immigration policies' just
because there's no immigration issues as such, but the 'parliamentary
system and liberal democracy' is a sham. All rest correspond(s).

...

<http://chilp.it/3adde9e>

Nationalism Is Exactly What Britain Needs

Democracy fails when citizens don't believe their country is worth fighting
for.

Some earnest articles had begun to appear in the Western press warning against
the dangers of nationalism in the UK. But in retrospect, the writers of these
articles feared precisely the wrong phenomenon. For what the majority of
Britons really lacked, then and later, was nationalism. Or patriotism, public
spirit, national loyalty, national allegiance, whatever word you prefer: the
sense that there was something special and unique about Britain, the feeling
that Britain was worth fighting for. .. With no widespread sense of national
allegiance and no public spirit, it's difficult to make democracy work. ..

In the US, we dislike the word "nationalism" and so, hypocritically, we call
it other things: "American exceptionalism," for example, or a "belief in
American greatness." We also argue about it as if it were something rational
rather than acknowledging that nationalism is fundamentally emotional. In
truth, you can't really make "the case" for nationalism; you can only
inculcate it, teach it to children, cultivate it at public events. If you do
so, nationalism can in turn inspire you so that you try to improve your
country, to help it live up to the image you want it to have.

The Britons need more of this kind of inspiration, not less. They need more
occasions when they can shout, "Rule, Britannia!", "God Save the Queen!" And
then of course they need to translate that emotion into laws, institutions, a
decent court system, and police training academies. If they don't, then their
country will cease to exist.

[Fight for America!]

On 6/25/2016 11:09 AM, Jonathan wrote:
>
>
> "They’re bringing drugs.They’re bringing crime.
> They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people!
> But I speak to border guards and they tell us what
> we’re getting. And it only makes common sense.
> They’re sending us not the right people.
> It’s coming from more than Mexico. It’s coming
> from all over South and Latin America, and
> it’s coming probably from the Middle East.
> But we don’t know. Because we have no protection
> and we have no competence, we don’t know
> what’s happening.
>
> And it’s got to stop and it’s got to stop fast.”
>
> ~Trump
>

Damned straight!

And traitors like you will be tried and executed.

[Jonathan]

Thanks for making my point.



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[Jonathan]

On 6/25/2016 1:11 PM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

> Jonathan, <news:H9OdnRINOfxULfPK...@giganews.com>
>
>> "...ideology that...usually includes ultra nationalism,
>> populism, anti-immigration policies...and opposition
>> to the parliamentary system and liberal democracy.
>>
>> Here's the full description
>>
>> Neo-fascism is a post-World War II ideology that
>> includes significant elements of fascism. Neo-fascism
>> usually includes ultranationalism, populism,
>> anti-immigration policies or, where relevant,
>> nativism, anti-communism, anti-Marxism,
>> anti-anarchism and opposition to the parliamentary
>> system and liberal democracy.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-fascism
>

> In the US, we dislike the word "nationalism" and so, hypocritically,
> we call it other things: "American exceptionalism," for example,
> or a "belief in American greatness."

Nationalism is feeling or belief.

American exceptionalism is a fact~

America has two qualities that make us exceptional.
The combination of the best democracy and largest
population makes us the world leader.

There are better democracies, there are larger
nations, but none maximize....both.

America does, and that's the difference.

Russia is a large nation and could be exceptional too.
Pity Russian's aren't educated enough to know the
benefits of freedom and democracy, but still rely
on the tenth century concept of Cult of Personality.

Live and learn I say, shame Russians are going to
learn the hard way for a third time, or is it the
fourth?





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[Piss on Putin]

On 6/25/2016 11:11 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> What Britain Needs




Russkie WW3 provocation:


http://freebeacon.com/national-security/russian-fighter-conducts-dangerous-intercept-of-u-s-recon-jet/

http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/america-responds-to-russian-provocation-in-baltic-sea-with-subdued-carefully-worded-statement/news-story/5a179d3685e87428767d4916b9162ecf

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/04/15/kerry-says-us-navy-destroyer-couldve-shot-down-russian-warplanes.html

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/23/politics/us-russian-bombers-july-4-intercept/

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/27/world/us-russia-bombers-intentions/

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/full-list-of-incidents-involving-russian-military-and-nato-since-march-2014-9851309.html


Russian military strategy causing dangerous encounters
Russian-su27.jpg

The Russian su-27 fighter jet photographed next to a Swedish
intelligence plane.

A full list of 39 incidents since March 2014

As classified by the European Leadership Network

High Risk Incidents

On 3 March 2014 a close encounter occurred between a SAS passenger plane
taking off from Copenhagen and a Russian reconnaissance aircraft which
did not transmit its position 50 miles south east of Malmo. A collision
was apparently avoided thanks only to good visibility and the alertness
of the passenger plane pilots. The SAS 737 plane was carrying 132
passengers to Rome.
On 5 September 2014 an Estonian security service operative, Eston
Kohver, was abducted by Russian agents from an Estonian border post, on
Estonian, and therefore NATO, territory. He was later taken to Moscow
and accused of espionage. The incident itself involved communications
jamming and the use of smoke grenades, and took place immediately after
President Obama’s visit to the region and his repetition of security
assurances to the Baltic States.
Between 17-27 October, 2014 a major submarine hunt by Swedish
authorities was prompted by credible intelligence reports of
“underwater activity†in the Stockholm archipelago in Swedish
territorial waters. Supreme Commander General Sverker Göranson
underlined that Sweden was ready to use “armed force†to bring the
vessel to the surface if necessary. Russia issued denials and attempted
to ridicule Swedish concerns. The major search operation stopped on Oct. 24.
Serious Incidents with Escalation Risk

On 12 April 2014 an unarmed Russian fighter aircraft made 12 passes of
the American warship the USS Cook in the Black Sea. Such aggressive
behaviour, if repeated by an armed aircraft, could have resulted in the
ship commander targeting the aircraft in an act of self-defence.
On April 23 2014 an armed Russian fighter undertook very threatening
manoeuvres in the vicinity of an American reconnaissance aircraft in the
Sea of Okhotsk. These manoeuvres involved demonstrating that the fighter
was armed. Such behaviour is far removed from what would be expected in
a relatively routine encounter.
In June 2014 armed Russian aircraft approached the heavily populated
Danish island of Bornholm before breaking off in what appears to have
been a simulated attack. The Danish intelligence service described the
incident as “of a more offensive character than observed in recent
years.â€
On 16 July 2014 an armed Russian aircraft intercepted a Swedish
surveillance plane conducting operations between Gotland and Latvia in
international airspace, and flew within 10 metres of the plane. This
indicated a far more aggressive approach to intercepting aircraft than
in previous encounters.
On 18 July 2014 an American surveillance plane conducting operations
near Kaliningrad was chased into Swedish air-space after being
approached by Russian fighters. This evasive action took place without
Sweden’s prior approval that the US aircraft could enter Swedish airspace.
In early September, 2014 Russian strategic bombers in the Labrador Sea
near Canada practiced cruise missile strikes on the United States. The
Russian aircraft stayed outside of Canada’s ADIZ but this was still a
provocative move in light of the NATO summit ongoing at the time. Cruise
missiles launched from the Labrador Sea would have Ottawa, New York,
Washington, Chicago, and the Norfolk Naval Base in range.
On 7 September 2014 HMCS Toronto (a frigate) was buzzed by a Russian
aircraft in the Black Sea, with the plane coming within 300 metres of
the warship. HMCS Toronto locked its radar on the Russian plane but took
no further action as the aircraft was not armed. This incident coincided
with larger Russian naval combat training activities near Sevastopol.
Such aggressive behaviour, if repeated by an armed aircraft, could have
resulted in the ship commander targeting the aircraft in an act of
self-defence.
On 17 September 2014 two Russian military aircraft crossed into Swedish
air-space south of the island of Oland. The Russian Su-24 bombers
intentionally violated Swedish airspace possibly to test the
capabilities of the air defence system strengthened after previous
incidents. The Swedish Foreign Minister described the incident as the
‘most serious aerial incursion’ in years.
On 19 September 2014 Russian officers detained a Lithuanian shipping
vessel in international waters in the Barents Sea, subsequently towing
it to Murmansk. This represented a clear escalation in Russian attempts
at the provocation and intimidation of the Baltic States.
On 3 October 2014 a Russian fighter flew “within metres†of Swedish
surveillance aircraft in the Baltic in an incident deemed “unusually
provocative†. A collision between the aircraft would have had serious
repercussions for bilateral relations and increased military tensions
across the entire Baltic area.
From 28-30 October 2014, Russia conducted a major air exercise in the
North Sea, Atlantic, Black Sea and Baltic Sea. In a series of
developments, aircraft from NATO states and partners tracked Russian
long-range bombers conducting missions across this entire area,
including a large formation of Russian fighters and bombers conducting
missions over the Baltic Sea. All missions were conducted in
international airspace but their scale and use of different kinds of
aircraft and different zones of operation has added significantly to
increased tensions between NATO and Russia.
Near Routine Incidents

On 10 April 2014 two Russian Navy vessels involved in live missile
firing exercises entered Lithuania’s Baltic maritime economic zone,
causing serious disruption to shipping.
On 20 April 2014 a Russian recon aircraft observed Swedish military
installations. Unclear if there was a Swedish response.
On 23 April 2014 a Russian aircraft entered Dutch airspace before being
intercepted by Dutch fighter aircraft.
On 24 April 2014 RAF fighters intercepted and shadowed Russian aircraft
in international airspace over the North Sea.
On 28 April 2014, fighters with the Nato Baltic Air Policing force
scrambled to intercept Russian aircraft in international airspace.
On 9 May 2014 Russian aircraft approached to within 50 miles of the
Californian coast, the closest such Russian military flight since the
Cold War.
On 18 May 2014 RAF fighters intercepted a Russian helicopter and
shadowed it back to its parent corvette in the Baltic Sea; the fighters
later performed several passes of the Russian warship.
In late May, early June 2014 Russian aircraft carried out several
incursions into the US and Canadian Air Defence Identification Zones in
the Arctic.
On 12 June 2014, Nato fighters intercepted Russian aircraft in
international airspace near Latvia.
On 17 June 2014, RAF fighters intercepted a Russian air formation in
international airspace.
On 19 June 2014; HMS Montrose, a British frigate, was sent to
investigate a Russian corvette in international waters near Denmark’s
Baltic coast. HMS Montrose was subsequently circled by Russian maritime
patrol aircraft.
From 21 May to 13 August 2014, a series of short airspace violations by
Russian aircraft were reported over the Estonian island of Vaindloo.
On 1 August, Polish fighters of the Nato Baltic air-policing mission
intercepted Russian aircraft flying near Estonia airspace.
In early August 2014 several Russian air incursions were reported into
the Alaskan Air Defence Identification Zone.
On 7 August 2014 anti-submarine forces of Russia’s Northern Fleet
reportedly expelled an American submarine from the Barents Sea. The US
denied its submarines were operating in the area.
On 28 August 2014, there was an air incident involving an unknown Nato
country and Russia. No details beyond aircraft type except that incident
took place over the Baltic.
In August/September 2014, Russian naval and air units interfered with
the operations of a Finnish research vessel on two separate occasions.
In late August, 2014, multiple breaches of Finnish air-space by Russian
state aircraft were reported. In response, Finland has already indicated
that it will react more firmly to violations of its airspace in future.
On 11 September 2014, Canadian jets intercepted Russian aircraft in
international airspace.
Between the 17 and 18 September 2014, Russian jets entered the ADIZ off
the coast of Alaska (officials say such incidents happen around 10 times
a year) on two separate occasions, once on the evening of Wednesday 17th
Sep (USA ADIZ) and once on the morning of Thursday 18th Sep (Canadian
ADIZ, Beaufort Sea). The Russian planes were intercepted by American and
Canadian fighters. These incidents coincide with Ukrainian President
Petro Poroshenko’s visits to Ottawa and Washington.
On 19 September 2014, RAF jets shadowed Russian aircraft in
international airspace above the north sea.
On 29 September 2014, Latvian forces observed a Russian warship
operating 14 miles from Latvian territorial waters; article observes
that Russian jets and warships have been detected 173 times near
Latvia’s borders as of September.
On 20 October 2014, planes from the Baltic Air Policing mission
intercepted Russian surveillance Il-20 aircraft in international airspace
On 21 October 2014 Baltic Air Policing planes (Portuguese F-16s)
intercepted Russian Il-20 surveillance aircraft which entered Estonian
airspace next to the island of Saarema for about a minute.
On 31 October 2014, RAF Typhoons intercepted Russian aircraft
approaching UK airspace.

[Fight for America!]

Thanks for being an exterminable traitor to America, you swine.

[Fight for America!]

On 6/25/2016 11:28 AM, Jonathan wrote:
> On 6/25/2016 1:11 PM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
>
>> Jonathan, <news:H9OdnRINOfxULfPK...@giganews.com>
>>
>>> "...ideology that...usually includes ultra nationalism,
>>> populism, anti-immigration policies...and opposition
>>> to the parliamentary system and liberal democracy.
>>>
>>> Here's the full description
>>>
>>> Neo-fascism is a post-World War II ideology that
>>> includes significant elements of fascism. Neo-fascism
>>> usually includes ultranationalism, populism,
>>> anti-immigration policies or, where relevant,
>>> nativism, anti-communism, anti-Marxism,
>>> anti-anarchism and opposition to the parliamentary
>>> system and liberal democracy.
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-fascism
>>
>
>
>> In the US, we dislike the word "nationalism" and so, hypocritically,
>> we call it other things: "American exceptionalism," for example,
>> or a "belief in American greatness."
>
>
>
> Nationalism is feeling or belief.
>
> American exceptionalism is a fact~
>
> America has two qualities that make us exceptional.
> The combination of the best democracy and largest
> population makes us the world leader.
>
> There are better democracies,

No, there are NOT!

> there are larger
> nations, but none maximize....both.
>
> America does, and that's the difference.
>
> Russia is a large nation and could be exceptional too.
> Pity Russian's aren't educated enough to know the
> benefits of freedom and democracy, but still rely
> on the tenth century concept of Cult of Personality.
>
> Live and learn I say, shame Russians are going to
> learn the hard way for a third time, or is it the
> fourth?

Russia is an alcoholic state.

As such it must always fail.

[bookoflife.org]

On Saturday, June 25, 2016 at 9:26:55 AM UTC-7, Jonathan wrote:
> Does this description ring a Donald Trump bell?
>

fuchsia you terrorist cock suxer; I heard you jack off to syrian jihadi clittie

[bookoflife.org]

On Saturday, June 25, 2016 at 10:26:33 AM UTC-7, Jonathan wrote:
> On 6/25/2016 1:11 PM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
>
> > Jonathan, <news:H9OdnRINOfxULfPK...@giganews.com>
> >
> >> "...ideology that...usually includes ultra nationalism,
> >> populism, anti-immigration policies...and opposition
> >> to the parliamentary system and liberal democracy.
> >>
> >> Here's the full description
> >>
> >> Neo-fascism is a post-World War II ideology that
> >> includes significant elements of fascism. Neo-fascism
> >> usually includes ultranationalism, populism,
> >> anti-immigration policies or, where relevant,
> >> nativism, anti-communism, anti-Marxism,
> >> anti-anarchism and opposition to the parliamentary
> >> system and liberal democracy.
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-fascism
> >
>
>
> > In the US, we dislike the word "nationalism" and so, hypocritically,
> > we call it other things: "American exceptionalism," for example,
> > or a "belief in American greatness."
>
>
>
> Nationalism is feeling or belief.

u sound like docufo faggot troll of apn.

nigger baby raping admitter:

We know you are a fago Arab too. fuck you, Hitler aligned with ArAB jIHADIS BECAUSE HE WAS A FUCKIHNG JEW ARAB

[Topaz]

WHAT IS FASCISM?

By James Miller, PhD

Fascism is an economic system in which a nation's government plays a
central role in monitoring all banking, trade, production, and labor
activity which takes place within the nation. Such monitoring is done
for the sole purpose of safeguarding & advancing the nation and its
people. Under Fascism, the government will not approve of any business
activity unless that business has a positive impact on the nation as a
whole and the people of the nation - this is the axiom which
determines everything under Fascism.

In other words, the government asks, "Is XYZ Enterprises good for our
nation and our people?" If yes, it's approved. If no, it's not
approved. When they ask, "Is it good?", they mean, "Is XYZ Enterprises
good for the workers, do they pay a fair wage, do they produce a
product or provide a service which advances our nation & our people
technologically, morally, spiritually, health-wise, etc???" For
example, a pornography company would not be allowed because
pornography corrupts people generally and exploits & degrades women
particularly. Also, "free" trade agreements (such as what the U.S. has
with China) would never be allowed because such trade agreements
result in companies sending jobs overseas (where labor is dirt cheap).
Such an activity, of course, would undermine a nation's labor class.
This is entirely unnacceptable and thus not allowed under a Fascist
economic model.

Fascism is based on free enterprise - but with constraints (the
primary constraint being, "Is the particular economic activity in
question good for our nation?"). Also, a businessman can become
wealthy in a Fascist country, and the government has no objection to
this (this is in stark contrast to Communism). Fascism also encourages
private ownership of property (again, in stark contrast to Communism
where private property is not allowed).

In a nutshell, Fascism basically tells entrepreneurs, "Go ahead and
start a business, earn a lot of money, be successful, but don't
produce any products or services which damage our nation and our
nation's people... and make sure you treat your workers fair and pay
them a living wage. If you don't do these things, we'll shut you
down."

The above is the economic aspect of Fascism. There is also a
cultural/social aspect to Fascism as well. Under Fascism, government
plays a key role in monitoring: film, theatre, art, literature, music,
education, etc in order to maintain a high moral standard, keep things
clean and respectable, promote a strong sense of patriotism and honor,
and prevent the dissemination of depraved filth which corrupts
society.

A few other things to mention. Fascism encourages respect for the
enviroment as Fascists understand that nature is the giver of life and
thus must be preserved. Contrast this environmental view with that of
Capitalism which too often takes the short term view and foolishly
believes that pollution is a necessary byproduct of profit.

Also, under Fascism, if a person doesn't like things, he/she can leave
the country. Contrast this with Communism where if you don't like
things, you better keep your mouth shut. And, of course, there is no
option to leave the country. You will submit or else be sent to a
re-education camp where you'll be brainwashed to accept the Communist
system. And if you still resist, you'll probably be killed. Again,
there is no leaving. Submit or suffer the consequences.

Lastly, Fascism holds women in very high regard. Women are the
carriers of new life. They are expected to be educated, worldly, and
well read. Women are encouraged to pursue their interests and have a
career but only if a career won't interfere with her family's needs;
family comes first, always. Women are encouraged to be strong yet
feminine.

In Germany, the NSDAP essentially followed the above described Fascist
system.

###


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[Topaz]

From a California school teacher,

"As you listen to the news about the student protests over illegal
immigration, there are some things that you should be aware of:
I am in charge of the English-as-a-second-language department at a
large southern California high school which is designated a Title 1
school, meaning that its students average lower socioeconomic and
income levels.

Most of the schools you are hearing about, South Gate High, Bell
Gardens, Huntington Park, etc., where these students are protesting,
are also Title 1 schools.

Title 1 schools are on the free breakfast and free lunch program.
When I say free breakfast, I'm not talking a glass of milk and roll --
but a full breakfast and cereal bar with fruits and juices that would
make a Marriott proud. The waste of this food is monumental, with
trays and trays of it being dumped in the trash uneaten.

I estimate that well over 50% of these students are obese or at least
moderately overweight. About 75% or more DO have cell phones. The
school also provides day care centers for the unwed teenage pregnant
girls (some as young as 13) so they can attend class without the
inconvenience of having to arrange for babysitters or having family
watch their kids. I was ordered to spend $700,000 on my department or
risk losing funding for the upcoming year even though there was little
need for anything; my budget was already substantial. I ended up
buying new computers for the computer learning center, half of which,
one month later, have been carved with graffiti by the appreciative
students who obviously feel humbled and grateful to have a free
education in America.

I have had to intervene several times for young and substitute
teachers whose classes consist of many illegal immigrant students,
here in the country less then 3 months, who raised so much hell with
the female teachers, calling them "Putas"(whores) and throwing things,
that the teachers were in tears.

Free medical, free education, free food, free day care etc., etc,
etc. Is it any wonder they feel entitled to not only be in this
country but to demand rights, privileges and entitlements?

To those who want to point out how much these illegal immigrants
contribute to our society because they LIKE their gardener and
housekeeper and they like to pay less for tomatoes: spend some time in
the real world of illegal immigration and see the TRUE costs.

Higher insurance, medical facilities closing, higher medical costs,
more crime, lower standards of education in our schools, overcrowding,
new diseases. For me, I'll pay more for tomatoes.

Americans, We need to wake up.

It does, however, have everything to do with culture: It involves an
American third-world culture that does not value education, that
accepts children getting pregnant and dropping out of school by 15 and
that refuses to assimilate, and an American culture that has become so
weak and worried about "political correctness" that we don't have the
will to do anything about it. If this makes your blood boil, as it
did mine, forward this to
everyone you know.

CHEAP LABOR? Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is about?
Business doesn't want to pay a decent wage. Consumers don't want
expensive produce.

Government will tell you Americans don't want the jobs. But the
bottom line is cheap labor. The phrase "cheap labor" is a myth, a
farce, and a lie. There is no such thing as "cheap labor."

Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children. He
takes a job for $5.00 or 6.00/hour. At that wage, with six dependents,
he pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year, if he files an
Income Tax Return, he gets an "earned income credit" of up to $3,200
free.

He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent.
He qualifies for food stamps.
He qualifies for free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care.
His children get free breakfasts and lunches at school.
He requires bilingual teachers and books.
He qualifies for relief from high energy bills.
If they are, or become, aged, blind or disabled, they qualify for
SSI.
If qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare.

All of this is at (OUR) taxpayer's expense.
He doesn't worry about car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners
insurance. Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and
printed material. He and his family receive the equivalent of $20.00
to $30.00/hour in
benefits.

Working Americans are lucky to have $5.00 or $6..00/hour left after
paying their bills AND his. Cheap labor? YEAH RIGHT! THESE ARE THE
QUESTIONS WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING TO THE CONGRESSIONAL
MEMBERS OF EITHER PARTY.

AND WHEN THEY LIE TO US AND DON'T DO AS THEY SAY, WE SHOULD REPLACE
THEM.

Please pass this on to as many as possible. Immigration legislation
is to be considered in 2010. This is important to working Americans,
our economy and our American culture and heritage..

[jonathan]

On 6/26/2016 5:13 AM, Topaz wrote:
>
> From a California school teacher,
>
> "As you listen to the news about the student protests over illegal
> immigration, there are some things that you should be aware of:
> I am in charge of the English-as-a-second-language department at a
> large southern California high school which is designated a Title 1
> school, meaning that its students average lower socioeconomic and
> income levels.
>
> Most of the schools you are hearing about, South Gate High, Bell
> Gardens, Huntington Park, etc., where these students are protesting,
> are also Title 1 schools.
>
> Title 1 schools are on the free breakfast and free lunch program.
> When I say free breakfast, I'm not talking a glass of milk and roll --
> but a full breakfast and cereal bar with fruits and juices that would
> make a Marriott proud. The waste of this food is monumental, with
> trays and trays of it being dumped in the trash uneaten.
>

This is a nationwide problem, not a problem limited to
Mexicans. 40% of school lunches nationwide is wasted.

FOOD RESCUE

​An estimated 1 billion Unpeeled, Unopened and Unwanted food
items are discarded annually in American schools because
our students are not given an alternative to dumping it
in trash if they are full or do not want the item. -

See more at:
http://www.foodrescue.net/easy1.html?gclid=CjwKEAjw-r27BRCzsNyzrMrM-j0SJACp2TiBIIm5XtJ0L6v6CVstWYTixD4x2Dg3jxRI-c8iOGZgXRoCPJDw_wcB#sthash.h2tyOUtD.dpuf

> I estimate that well over 50% of these students are obese or at least
> moderately overweight.

Again, this is a national problem not limited to Mexicans.


Childhood obesity is a national epidemic. Nearly 1 in 3 children
(ages 2-19) in the United States is overweight or obese,
https://www.healthiergeneration.org/about_childhood_obesity/?gclid=CjwKEAjw-r27BRCzsNyzrMrM-j0SJACp2TiBf3w_3wWZLK3AvMREhDfKT-ohtDvLDrCaTbL4AMhkXhoCwCTw_wcB

> About 75% or more DO have cell phones.

Again, another attempt to paint Mexicans as somehow
a burden or even more racist, ungrateful.


56 percent of children, age 8 to 12, have a cellphone.
http://www.growingwireless.com/get-the-facts/quick-facts

The
> school also provides day care centers for the unwed teenage pregnant
> girls (some as young as 13) so they can attend class without the
> inconvenience of having to arrange for babysitters or having family
> watch their kids.

Child care is a bad thing? Are you saying Mexican girls are
all whores? Another typical racist stereotype.

> I was ordered to spend $700,000 on my department or
> risk losing funding for the upcoming year even though there was little
> need for anything; my budget was already substantial.

That is typical of govt programs, not a Mexican problem.

> I ended up
> buying new computers for the computer learning center, half of which,
> one month later, have been carved with graffiti by the appreciative
> students who obviously feel humbled and grateful to have a free
> education in America.
>

Those ungrateful little whores. Sounds like a problem
with poor supervision. Or more likely they can tell
their teachers hate them due to the color of their skin.

> I have had to intervene several times for young and substitute
> teachers whose classes consist of many illegal immigrant students,
> here in the country less then 3 months, who raised so much hell with
> the female teachers, calling them "Putas"(whores) and throwing things,
> that the teachers were in tears.
>
> Free medical, free education, free food, free day care etc., etc,
> etc. Is it any wonder they feel entitled to not only be in this
> country but to demand rights, privileges and entitlements?
>

How dare they feel they deserve the same rights and benefits
as 'real' American children. How dare they not bow in servitude
and kiss your lilly white feet.

> To those who want to point out how much these illegal immigrants
> contribute to our society because they LIKE their gardener and
> housekeeper and they like to pay less for tomatoes: spend some time in
> the real world of illegal immigration and see the TRUE costs.
>

Oh that's not a racist statement....gawd.

> Higher insurance, medical facilities closing, higher medical costs,
> more crime, lower standards of education in our schools, overcrowding,
> new diseases. For me, I'll pay more for tomatoes.
>

You left out how they are all rapists too, like Trump says
a few of them are nice people though.

> Americans, We need to wake up.
>
> It does, however, have everything to do with culture: It involves an
> American third-world culture that does not value education, that
> accepts children getting pregnant and dropping out of school by 15 and
> that refuses to assimilate, and an American culture that has become so
> weak and worried about "political correctness" that we don't have the
> will to do anything about it. If this makes your blood boil, as it
> did mine, forward this to
> everyone you know.
>

That's due mostly to lousy schools.

> CHEAP LABOR? Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is about?
> Business doesn't want to pay a decent wage. Consumers don't want
> expensive produce.
>
> Government will tell you Americans don't want the jobs. But the
> bottom line is cheap labor. The phrase "cheap labor" is a myth, a
> farce, and a lie. There is no such thing as "cheap labor."
>
> Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children. He
> takes a job for $5.00 or 6.00/hour.

So give them a work permit so they don't have to accept
sub minimum wages and live in the shadows. Deporting
millions in short order would make America into
just another Russia

> At that wage, with six dependents,
> he pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year, if he files an
> Income Tax Return, he gets an "earned income credit" of up to $3,200
> free.
>

Wow, that's living large at $15,000 per year those
ungrateful rapists and whores.

And they'll just spend all that cash on drugs right?

> He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent.
> He qualifies for food stamps.
> He qualifies for free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care.
> His children get free breakfasts and lunches at school.
> He requires bilingual teachers and books.
> He qualifies for relief from high energy bills.
> If they are, or become, aged, blind or disabled, they qualify for
> SSI.
> If qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare.
>

Are you saying $15k per year shouldn't qualify for
assistance? Or only if you're white?

So give them work permits so they can find better jobs.

> All of this is at (OUR) taxpayer's expense.
> He doesn't worry about car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners
> insurance. Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and
> printed material. He and his family receive the equivalent of $20.00
> to $30.00/hour in
> benefits.
>

Oh bullshit.

> Working Americans are lucky to have $5.00 or $6..00/hour left after
> paying their bills AND his. Cheap labor? YEAH RIGHT! THESE ARE THE
> QUESTIONS WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING TO THE CONGRESSIONAL
> MEMBERS OF EITHER PARTY.
>
> AND WHEN THEY LIE TO US AND DON'T DO AS THEY SAY, WE SHOULD REPLACE
> THEM.
>
> Please pass this on to as many as possible. Immigration legislation
> is to be considered in 2010. This is important to working Americans,
> our economy and our American culture and heritage..
>
> www.tomatobubble.com www.ihr.org http://nationalvanguard.org
>
> http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com
>

Racist propaganda, it's shameful.

[Jonathan]

On 6/26/2016 5:10 AM, Topaz wrote:



Damn! Fascism comes out of the closet and into the
mainstream. I guess the fact it gave us the Second
World War and killed 50 million people appears
to have escaped this...'PhD'.

Why didn't you post these essays by the very same 'PhD?


"If Hitler Won World War II We'd Have A Better, More Just
World Today"
http://immigration-globalization.blogspot.com/



Or this PhD's description of the friendly Dr Mengele who
he claims dedicated his life to helping Jews become
...ah hum...healthier?


Dr. Mengele™ (one of many doctors at Auschwitz™ and yet
seemingly every Jew amazingly had an encounter with him.
Further Dr. Mengele was a hygienist MD who worked at
Auschwitz™ to examine inmates for proper hygiene
in order to keep them alive).
http://immigration-globalization.blogspot.com/

[Ted&Alice]

Even if the author is racist, his case isn't dependent on racism. Your
objections are all beside the author's point, which is that illegal
immigrants are taking gross advantage of American generosity.

>
>
> > I have had to intervene several times for young and substitute
> > teachers whose classes consist of many illegal immigrant students,
> > here in the country less then 3 months, who raised so much hell with
> > the female teachers, calling them "Putas"(whores) and throwing
> > things, that the teachers were in tears.
> >
> > Free medical, free education, free food, free day care etc., etc,
> > etc. Is it any wonder they feel entitled to not only be in this
> > country but to demand rights, privileges and entitlements?
> >
>
>
>
> How dare they feel they deserve the same rights and benefits
> as 'real' American children. How dare they not bow in servitude
> and kiss your lilly white feet.
>

What does "illegal" mean?

>
> > To those who want to point out how much these illegal immigrants
> > contribute to our society because they LIKE their gardener and
> > housekeeper and they like to pay less for tomatoes: spend some time
> > in the real world of illegal immigration and see the TRUE costs.
> >
>
>
> Oh that's not a racist statement....gawd.
>

How is it racist?

>
> > Higher insurance, medical facilities closing, higher medical costs,
> > more crime, lower standards of education in our schools,
> > overcrowding, new diseases. For me, I'll pay more for tomatoes.
> >
>
>
> You left out how they are all rapists too, like Trump says
> a few of them are nice people though.
>

You don't need any straw men here, Jonathan. But I know that you can't
help but construct them. It's part of your MO.

>
> > Americans, We need to wake up.
> >
> > It does, however, have everything to do with culture: It involves an
> > American third-world culture that does not value education, that
> > accepts children getting pregnant and dropping out of school by 15
> > and that refuses to assimilate, and an American culture that has
> > become so weak and worried about "political correctness" that we
> > don't have the will to do anything about it. If this makes your
> > blood boil, as it did mine, forward this to
> > everyone you know.
> >
>
>
> That's due mostly to lousy schools.
>

Whose fault?

>
>
> > CHEAP LABOR? Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is about?
> > Business doesn't want to pay a decent wage. Consumers don't want
> > expensive produce.
> >
> > Government will tell you Americans don't want the jobs. But the
> > bottom line is cheap labor. The phrase "cheap labor" is a myth, a
> > farce, and a lie. There is no such thing as "cheap labor."
> >
> > Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children.
> > He takes a job for $5.00 or 6.00/hour.
>
>
> So give them a work permit so they don't have to accept
> sub minimum wages and live in the shadows. Deporting
> millions in short order would make America into
> just another Russia
>

Or even another America, i.e. under other presidents and in the
opinions of many Democrats.

>
>
>
> > At that wage, with six dependents,
> > he pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year, if he files an
> > Income Tax Return, he gets an "earned income credit" of up to $3,200
> > free.
> >
>
> Wow, that's living large at $15,000 per year those
> ungrateful rapists and whores.
>
> And they'll just spend all that cash on drugs right?
>
>
>
> > He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent.
> > He qualifies for food stamps.
> > He qualifies for free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care.
> > His children get free breakfasts and lunches at school.
> > He requires bilingual teachers and books.
> > He qualifies for relief from high energy bills.
> > If they are, or become, aged, blind or disabled, they qualify for
> > SSI.
> > If qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare.
> >
>
>
> Are you saying $15k per year shouldn't qualify for
> assistance? Or only if you're white?
>
> So give them work permits so they can find better jobs.
>
>

What does "illegal" mean?

>
>
> > All of this is at (OUR) taxpayer's expense.
> > He doesn't worry about car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners
> > insurance. Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and
> > printed material. He and his family receive the equivalent of
> > $20.00 to $30.00/hour in
> > benefits.
> >
>
>
> Oh bullshit.
>
>

Likely. I'd ask for an itemized list.

[Ted&Alice]

Jonathan wrote:

> On 6/26/2016 5:10 AM, Topaz wrote:
>
>
>
> Damn! Fascism comes out of the closet and into the
> mainstream. I guess the fact it gave us the Second
> World War and killed 50 million people appears
> to have escaped this...'PhD'.
>
> Why didn't you post these essays by the very same 'PhD?
>
>
> "If Hitler Won World War II We'd Have A Better, More Just
> World Today"
> http://immigration-globalization.blogspot.com/
>
>

The entire world would have become a vast slave camp. But WW2 still
could have been prevented by the allies.

>
> Or this PhD's description of the friendly Dr Mengele who
> he claims dedicated his life to helping Jews become
> ...ah hum...healthier?
>

LOL.

[Governor Swill]

On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 "Ted&Alice" wrote:
>jonathan wrote:
>> Those ungrateful little whores. Sounds like a problem
>> with poor supervision. Or more likely they can tell
>> their teachers hate them due to the color of their skin.

>Even if the author is racist, his case isn't dependent on racism. Your
>objections are all beside the author's point, which is that illegal
>immigrants are taking gross advantage of American generosity.

The opposite is true. America is taking advantage of their poverty to
pay them low wages. This depresses wages for everybody. Further,
such workers can't go to the local dept of labor or *any* govt
department when they go unpaid or are mistreated.

The lawsuit filed against Trump by the illegals he imported
demonstrates this.
<http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/02/25/details_on_the_donald_trump_polish_worker_lawsuit.html>

And what was Donald's response when he got caught importing illegal
immigrants? "It worked out very well. Everybody was happy."

Illegal immigrant labor reduces inflation, just ask any business that
routinely hires them. They also put in more tax than they take out in
services.

>> How dare they feel they deserve the same rights and benefits
>> as 'real' American children. How dare they not bow in servitude
>> and kiss your lilly white feet.

>What does "illegal" mean?

In the case of "illegal immigrant"? Exploited for starters. There
are no penalties against employers who hire illegals except for those
rare occasions when the INS has to raid a plant.

>> > To those who want to point out how much these illegal immigrants
>> > contribute to our society because they LIKE their gardener and
>> > housekeeper and they like to pay less for tomatoes: spend some time
>> > in the real world of illegal immigration and see the TRUE costs.
>> Oh that's not a racist statement....gawd.

>How is it racist?

>> > Higher insurance, medical facilities closing, higher medical costs,
>> > more crime, lower standards of education in our schools,
>> > overcrowding, new diseases. For me, I'll pay more for tomatoes.

>> You left out how they are all rapists too, like Trump says
>> a few of them are nice people though.

>You don't need any straw men here, Jonathan. But I know that you can't
>help but construct them. It's part of your MO.

Since that's Trump's argument, it's he, not Jonathon, who's erecting
straw men.

>> That's due mostly to lousy schools.

>Whose fault?

Sometimes budgeting. Sometimes poor teaching skills. Disengaged
parents are a major issue as well.

But the biggest problem is Americans feel entitled to good jobs and
great pay. They don't feel they need education or should have to work
so hard as say, an Asian immigrant whose kids get straight A's because
their parents insist on it, and go on to take the great paying
engineer job your kid couldn't get because a C average doesn't get you
into college.

>> So give them a work permit so they don't have to accept
>> sub minimum wages and live in the shadows. Deporting
>> millions in short order would make America into
>> just another Russia

>Or even another America, i.e. under other presidents and in the
>opinions of many Democrats.

That would also make them eligible for the very benefits most
anti-immigrant folks don't want them to have.

>> > All of this is at (OUR) taxpayer's expense.
>> > He doesn't worry about car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners
>> > insurance. Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and
>> > printed material. He and his family receive the equivalent of
>> > $20.00 to $30.00/hour in
>> > benefits.

>> Oh bullshit.

>Likely. I'd ask for an itemized list.

So would I. The trouble with positions based on emotion is that facts
to justify it can be hard to come by.

Swill
--
Donald J. Trump: The asteroid destined to destroy
a party of dinosaurs. - Samantha Bee

Trump has written a lot of books about business, but they all
seem to end in Chapter 11. - Hillary Clinton

S. E. Cupp has characterized Trump as wearing the Republican party
like a rented tuxedo. When the prom is over, it's going to end up on
the floor with the liquor stains and cigarette butts.

So if you are thinking of voting for Donald Trump,
the charismatic guy promising to ‘Make America Great
Again,’ stop and take a moment to imagine how you
would feel if you just met a guy named Donald Drumpf:
a litigious, serial liar with a string of broken business
ventures and the support of a former Klan leader who
he can’t decide whether or not to condemn.
Would you think he would make a good president,
or is the spell now somewhat broken? - John Oliver

[Governor Swill]

On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 07:42:01 -0400, Jonathan wrote:

Why are you reading Topaz? I and many others learned years ago to
ignore his posts.

[Governor Swill]

On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 12:49:44 +0000 (UTC), "Ted&Alice" wrote:
>The entire world would have become a vast slave camp. But WW2 still
>could have been prevented by the allies.

Not by us. Europe never wanted us to stick our nose in their business
unless they needed military help. They kicked us to the curb when
they wrote Versailles. They sure as hell wouldn't have been to keen
on us showing up in the thirties telling them how to handle their
affairs.

[Jonathan]

How many of those 'ungrateful' Mexicans
are illegal? Are you assuming they all are?
And even for those that are illegal
do you really want children running
around malnourished, and without any
medical care?

Would that make the Trump supporters feel better
to go into those areas and see starving
and sick children? And how much more
would it cost the taxpayers if every
medical visit were to the emergency
room, and no preventative medical care
and so on?

[Jonathan]

On 6/26/2016 12:29 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 "Ted&Alice" wrote:
>> jonathan wrote:
>>> Those ungrateful little whores. Sounds like a problem
>>> with poor supervision. Or more likely they can tell
>>> their teachers hate them due to the color of their skin.
>
>> Even if the author is racist, his case isn't dependent on racism. Your
>> objections are all beside the author's point, which is that illegal
>> immigrants are taking gross advantage of American generosity.
>
> The opposite is true. America is taking advantage of their poverty to
> pay them low wages. This depresses wages for everybody. Further,
> such workers can't go to the local dept of labor or *any* govt
> department when they go unpaid or are mistreated.
>

Every study I've seen shown society benefits
more from illegal immigrants than it costs.
And if they were given work permits that
would drive wages up for everyone as you say.

It's big business, the f l i p p i n' republicans
that want so many illegals running around, they
know this country will never round up 11 million
undocumented, but they c h e r i s h the cheap
labor and cheap benefits just like Trump does for
his businesses.

THE FACTS ARE undocumented workers exploded under
Pres G.W. Bush, and that quick rise has stopped
and started to fall since Pres Obama. Even though
the Bush world wide economic collapse in 2008
happened...after the rise peaked.


http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/19/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/

Oh but wait a minute, the republicans are blaming
President Clinton and his legislation from...1994
for that. Talk about nerve. It was Bush and his
'who needs govt regulators' mantra that let the
problem spin out of control.

[Jonathan]

On 6/26/2016 12:32 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 12:49:44 +0000 (UTC), "Ted&Alice" wrote:
>> The entire world would have become a vast slave camp. But WW2 still
>> could have been prevented by the allies.
>
> Not by us. Europe never wanted us to stick our nose in their business
> unless they needed military help. They kicked us to the curb when
> they wrote Versailles. They sure as hell wouldn't have been to keen
> on us showing up in the thirties telling them how to handle their
> affairs.
>

And we can see today with crystal clarity what European
love and appeasement of strong man dictators have
brought them, overrun with refugees at the hands of
the very same tyrants they've coddled. The 'order'
of people like Assad and Putin is currently
tearing Europe apart.

To say nothing about what they are doing to Syria.

Putin has been phosphorus bombing civilian population
centers in Syria lately like never before, ignoring
the fronts lines in favor of depopulating the cities
and starving the rebels of manpower as a tactic
for winning.

And what is Europe doing about it? They cheer the
decisiveness, they applaud the murder while
furiously building fences to keep the refugees
out.

You reap what you sow.

Right now Aleppo is teetering on being surrounded
and under siege, which will send hundreds of
thousands of new refugees flooding to Europe.

And what is Europe doing about it? They pay Ergodan
blood money to keep the refugees out.

Not a peep about the dead civilians their beloved
tyrants are killing using one cluster bomb and
phosphorus bomb after another.

Wanna see what 'selfies' are all the rage in
Syria right now?



Russian Phosphorus Bombing of Civilian
areas becoming routine.

Image
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cl46mgSXEAADhKU.jpg


Casualty of Russian Phosphorus bomb from last week
(*VERY GRAPHIC)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkwO8WCWkAAohLo.jpg


Where is the outrage from Europe?

In America there's a diplomatic revolt
taking place right now, where astonishingly
the diplomats, instead of insisting on diplomatic
solutions, are demanding military strikes.


51 State Department Employees Sign Memo Objecting
To U.S. Policy In Syria

June 17, 2016
http://www.npr.org/2016/06/17/482521364/51-state-department-employees-sign-memo-objecting-to-u-s-policy-in-syria



















> Swill
>

[Governor Swill]

On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 13:20:04 -0400, Jonathan wrote:
>On 6/26/2016 12:29 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 "Ted&Alice" wrote:
>>> jonathan wrote:
>>>> Those ungrateful little whores. Sounds like a problem
>>>> with poor supervision. Or more likely they can tell
>>>> their teachers hate them due to the color of their skin.
>>
>>> Even if the author is racist, his case isn't dependent on racism. Your
>>> objections are all beside the author's point, which is that illegal
>>> immigrants are taking gross advantage of American generosity.
>>
>> The opposite is true. America is taking advantage of their poverty to
>> pay them low wages. This depresses wages for everybody. Further,
>> such workers can't go to the local dept of labor or *any* govt
>> department when they go unpaid or are mistreated.

>Every study I've seen shown society benefits
>more from illegal immigrants than it costs.

Got any handy? Would be helpful.

>And if they were given work permits that
>would drive wages up for everyone as you say.

>It's big business, the f l i p p i n' republicans
>that want so many illegals running around, they
>know this country will never round up 11 million
>undocumented, but they c h e r i s h the cheap
>labor and cheap benefits just like Trump does for
>his businesses.

Keeps inflation - and wages - low and business profits high.

>THE FACTS ARE undocumented workers exploded under
>Pres G.W. Bush, and that quick rise has stopped
>and started to fall since Pres Obama. Even though
>the Bush world wide economic collapse in 2008
>happened...after the rise peaked.

The drop was caused by the recession. The jobs dried up.

>http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/19/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/
>
>Oh but wait a minute, the republicans are blaming
>President Clinton and his legislation from...1994
>for that. Talk about nerve. It was Bush and his
>'who needs govt regulators' mantra that let the
>problem spin out of control.

It was also Bush 41 who negotiated and signed NAFTA. And it was
Senate Republicans who gutted the 1986 amnesty bill and Ronald Reagan
who signed it.

[Governor Swill]

On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 18:58:10 -0400, Jonathan wrote:
>And what is Europe doing about it? They cheer the
>decisiveness, they applaud the murder while
>furiously building fences to keep the refugees
>out.

I gotta call bullshit on this one. Europe has welcomed millions.

[Beam Me Up Scotty]

On 06/27/2016 12:10 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 18:58:10 -0400, Jonathan wrote:
>> And what is Europe doing about it? They cheer the
>> decisiveness, they applaud the murder while
>> furiously building fences to keep the refugees
>> out.
>
> I gotta call bullshit on this one. Europe has welcomed millions.
>
> Swill
>

They are deporting them by the thousands....

--
That's Karma

Anytime the NRA or government Liberals support a ban on guns or a gun
free zone (like a drinking establishment or a church or school for
safety) then government or the business owners that wanted a gun free
zone should be mandated by law to provide "armed security" for the
patrons of their stores and government services.

Otherwise the 2nd amendment shall NOT be infringed.

Yes *TARGET and Chipotle's or a BLACK CHURCH OR A GAY NIGHT CLUB* that
bans GUNS should ALL be mandated to have armed guards at every
entrance/exit and or enough for security of the occupancy of the
building which ever is greater (like fire codes are for safety).

For fire codes "X" number of exits are required so the number of exits
may be the smallest number of armed guards but the occupancy might
require more armed guards as at a Liberal Rock concert where they won't
allow guns and general admission and exiting crowd may be more than the
fire escape doors capacity. And crowds leaving are at risk of terrorist
attack.

That way any rally or entertainment or school that anti gun Liberals
wish to hold is NOT a terrorist target. NOT that I will go to any of
those events but then the *Anti* 2nd Amendment Liberals will have no
reason to whine that their gun free zone was shot up by a Muslim nut or
a murdering kid with mental problems with a stolen gun.

http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/3674/1018/original.jpg
Obama's TWO FACED stand on Muslim's and Gun Owners.

[Jonathan]

On 6/27/2016 12:09 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 13:20:04 -0400, Jonathan wrote:
>> On 6/26/2016 12:29 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>> On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 "Ted&Alice" wrote:
>>>> jonathan wrote:
>>>>> Those ungrateful little whores. Sounds like a problem
>>>>> with poor supervision. Or more likely they can tell
>>>>> their teachers hate them due to the color of their skin.
>>>
>>>> Even if the author is racist, his case isn't dependent on racism. Your
>>>> objections are all beside the author's point, which is that illegal
>>>> immigrants are taking gross advantage of American generosity.
>>>
>>> The opposite is true. America is taking advantage of their poverty to
>>> pay them low wages. This depresses wages for everybody. Further,
>>> such workers can't go to the local dept of labor or *any* govt
>>> department when they go unpaid or are mistreated.
>
>> Every study I've seen shown society benefits
>> more from illegal immigrants than it costs.
>
> Got any handy? Would be helpful.
>

Economic impact of illegal immigrants in the
United States
From Wiki

(excerpts)

On the pro side...

Professor of Law Francine Lipman writes that the belief that i
llegal migrants are exploiting the US economy and that they
cost more in services than they contribute to the economy
is "undeniably false".[60] Lipman asserts that "illegal
immigrants actually contribute more to public coffers in
taxes than they cost in social services" and "contribute
to the U.S. economy through their investments and consumption
of goods and services; filling of millions of essential
worker positions resulting in subsidiary job creation,
increased productivity and lower costs of goods and services;
and unrequited contributions to Social Security, Medicare
and unemployment insurance programs."


on the con side...

The Center for Immigration Studies, an organization that advocates
Immigration reduction in the United States, reported in 2004:
"Households headed by illegal aliens imposed more than $26.3 billion in
costs on the federal government in 2002 and paid only $16 billion in
taxes, creating a net fiscal deficit of almost $10.4 billion, or $2,700
per illegal household."[65]


If an anti-immigrant study concludes they're costing the nation
$10 billion per year, is that really worth rounding up
11 million people? Which would almost certainty cost
ten times that amount and make America look to the world
as if we've become a police state?

If not become a police state? To this govt. $10 billion a year
is 'doughnut' money.



CBO study


During 2007, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office
reviewed 29 reports published over 15 years on the impact
of unauthorized immigrants on the budgets of state and
local governments. While cautioning that the reports
are not a suitable basis for developing an aggregate
national effect across all states, they concluded
that:

The amount that state and local governments spend on
services for unauthorized immigrants represents a small
percentage of the total amount spent by those governments
to provide such services to residents in their jurisdictions
who abuse their benefits and take advantage of programs
meant for those really in need;

The tax revenues that unauthorized immigrants generate for
state and local governments do not offset the total cost
of services provided to citizens, the impact is modest,
and most do not qualify for them;


Heritage Foundation Study


In 2013, the conservative think tank The Heritage Foundation
released a study concluding that as of 2010, the average
unlawful immigrant household has a net deficit
(benefits received minus taxes paid) of $14,387
per household.


Economic benefits of illegal immigrants
Consumer demand

Economic activity produced by illegal immigrant spending
employs about 5% of the total US workforce. Illegal
immigrants occupy over 3 million dwellings, or just under
4% of the total number of homes in the US. UCLA research
indicates immigrants produce $150 billion of economic
activity equivalent to spending stimulus every year.

The advantages of illegal migration tend mostly to be on
the side of the employer.

Nearly every dollar earned by illegal immigrants is spent
immediately, and the average wage for US citizens is
$10.25/hour with an average of 34 hours per week.
This means that approximately 8 million US jobs are
dependent upon economic activity produced by
illegal immigrant activities within the US.

Economic growth


Research reviewed by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget
Office indicates that between 70 percent and 80 percent
of unauthorized immigrants pay federal, state, and local
taxes. Illegal immigrants are estimated to pay in
about $7 billion per year into Social Security.

In addition, they spend millions of dollars per year, which
supports the US economy and helps to create new jobs.
The Texas State Comptroller reported in 2006 that the
1.4 million illegal immigrants in Texas alone added
almost $18 billion to the state's budget, and paid
$1.2 billion in state services they used.

Social Security subsidization

Illegal immigrants pay social security payroll taxes but
are not eligible for benefits. During 2006, Standard & Poor's
analysts wrote: "Each year, for example, the U.S. Social
Security Administration maintains roughly $6 billion to
$7 billion of Social Security contributions in an
"earnings suspense file"—an account for W-2 tax forms
that cannot be matched to the correct Social Security number.
The vast majority of these numbers are attributable to
illegal workers who will never claim their benefits."

For 2010, the Social Security Administration estimated
that illegal immigrants and their employers paid $13 billion
in social security (OASDI) payroll taxes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_impact_of_illegal_immigrants_in_the_United_States

>> And if they were given work permits that
>> would drive wages up for everyone as you say.
>
>> It's big business, the f l i p p i n' republicans
>> that want so many illegals running around, they
>> know this country will never round up 11 million
>> undocumented, but they c h e r i s h the cheap
>> labor and cheap benefits just like Trump does for
>> his businesses.
>
> Keeps inflation - and wages - low and business profits high.
>
>> THE FACTS ARE undocumented workers exploded under
>> Pres G.W. Bush, and that quick rise has stopped
>> and started to fall since Pres Obama. Even though
>> the Bush world wide economic collapse in 2008
>> happened...after the rise peaked.


>
> The drop was caused by the recession. The jobs dried up.
>

And as much by increased border security under Pres
Obama. As you can see in the chart even though
the US unemployment has gone from 10% to 5% since
2008 the number if illegals hasn't increased.

>> http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/19/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/
>>
>> Oh but wait a minute, the republicans are blaming
>> President Clinton and his legislation from...1994
>> for that. Talk about nerve. It was Bush and his
>> 'who needs govt regulators' mantra that let the
>> problem spin out of control.
>
> It was also Bush 41 who negotiated and signed NAFTA. And it was
> Senate Republicans who gutted the 1986 amnesty bill and Ronald Reagan
> who signed it.
>

History is treating Ronald Reagan rather kindly, as it should.



> Swill
>

[Jonathan]

A traitor is someone that wants to turn America into
a police state. Or turn our backs on the concepts that
made this country great, such as....

image
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/Travel/leadAssets/26/08/liberty_2608233a-large.jpg



s

[Jonathan]

On 6/27/2016 12:10 AM, Governor Swill wrote:


> On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 18:58:10 -0400, Jonathan wrote:
>> And what is Europe doing about it? They cheer the
>> decisiveness, they applaud the murder while
>> furiously building fences to keep the refugees
>> out.
>
> I gotta call bullshit on this one. Europe has welcomed millions.
>

They...were. Now they're just building fences.

EU approves €3 billion payment to Turkey

"EU countries gave final approval Wednesday to a
€3 billion payment to Turkey in exchange for its
cooperation in stemming the flow of migrants"
http://www.politico.eu/article/eu-approves-e3-billion-payment-to-turkey/


I was asking what has Europe done to...stop
the civil war that is creating the refugees.



The refugees accepted by the EU are grossly
exaggerated btw, they claim last year they
accepted 1.3 million total into the EU
most into Germany, but Germany is padding
the numbers.
https://fullfact.org/immigration/ask-full-fact-germany-hasnt-accepted-800000-syrian-refugees/



Syrian refugees stuck on Jordan border 'have nothing'

Thousands of Syrian refugees are cut off from humanitarian
assistance after border attack, aid workers say.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/06/syrian-refugees-stuck-jordan-border-160623062555653.html




Syrian refugees mass at Turkish border

Thousands of people are stranded at the Bab al-Salam crossing
after fleeing a government offensive in Aleppo.

Time stands frozen for thousands of Syrian refugees running
from war. They have fled Aleppo and are desperately trying
to enter Turkey, which has shut its border, claiming it is
unable to absorb any more refugees
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/inpictures/2016/02/syrian-refugees-mass-turkish-border-160224071920385.html



Lebanon alone, a nation of 4 million, has accepted
more Syrian refugees than all of the EU, one in four
people in Lebanon are now Syrian refugees.

Quick facts: What you need to know about the Syria crisis
https://www.mercycorps.org/articles/iraq-jordan-lebanon-syria-turkey/quick-facts-what-you-need-know-about-syria-crisis



s




> Swill
>

[Topaz]

On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 06:16:37 -0400, jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>This is a nationwide problem, not a problem limited to
>Mexicans. 40% of school lunches nationwide is wasted.
>
>FOOD RESCUE
>
>​An estimated 1 billion Unpeeled, Unopened and Unwanted food
>items are discarded annually in American schools because
>our students are not given an alternative to dumping it
>in trash if they are full or do not want the item. -

Everyone knows that non-Whites get everything handed to them. Take
affirmative action for example.


"There's this hilarious disconnect in the sheeple brain, where they
have been progressively brainwashed over a forty year period into
believing that once they have committed suicide themselves, an
identical civilization will be left behind except with a different
demographic makeup. They will yank the white tablecloth out from under
the dinnerware and the society will remain standing, only
melanin-enriched but otherwise the same.

It's like white people all over the planet were each taking turns
shooting themselves in the head with the same gun, convinced when they
have all killed themselves they will leave the perfect society behind.
I've got bad news for you. What you think of as civilization is joined
at the hip with the Indo-European gene pool. It's not even like oil
and water because it's all an unbroken continuum.

Culture is gene expression. If enough Mexicans inhabit any area on the
planet, that area will look exactly like Mexico in short order.

There's no piece of land on Earth that has a special gas exuded by the
local soil that makes flush toilets, clean running water, air
conditioning and the rule of law. There's no geographic location that
has these properties inherently. Irregardless of whether they are
bright enough to see it and understand why, whites tend to terraform
their surroundings to reflect what is inside them. Everything they
take for granted as the human standard, is in fact a projection of
their own qualities out onto a world that by and large is completely
indifferent to them.

America has already slipped past the demographic failsafe point. There
ain't no going back. Just like the nation formerly known as Rhodesia,
you will hear all sorts of yammering and analysis and whining but
nothing can stop Rhodesia from becoming Zimbabwe once all the
Rhodesians leave. It's a done deal.

There's no legislation. There's no emergency action committee. There's
no orchestrated government reform program. There's no mission
statement. There's no declaration of goals or judicial decision. Once
you change the genetic composition of a country, that country will
come to reflect it's demographics, not the other way around.
I went to high school in Chicago. Trust me, thirty years ago it didn't
look like the background of that news report. That was back when
Chicago schools were the best in the country and had some of the
highest scholastic scores in the nation. Back then, next to nobody
dropped out, ever.

You can't keep the street lights working with only half a nation of
high school graduates. You can't find the manpower to keep the ATM
machines running, to keep the power plant maintained at the dam, to
keep the nuclear reactor running. You can't have good medical care
with no good doctors. You can't have bridges that don't collapse with
no engineers.

America is just like Rhodesia during desegregation. All those
Rhodesians who talked about the coming era of rainbow folk dancing and
singing hand-in-hand with their African friends playing little
ukeleles, where are they now? The wind howls. Tumbleweeds blow past.
Two rabid wild dogs fight over a human ribcage in the streets where
the electricity went off a decade ago and has never come back on.
Where are all those Rhodesians looking forward to an era of peace and
harmony now? Where are they? Answer me. Raped and left for dead.
They're all wormfood now. Their farms burned to the ground, their
children strangled, their wives gangraped and forced to run naked
screaming with burning tire necklaces.

Fools. Dust in the wind. Shot in the back of the head and left for the
buzzards in some ditch on the veldt long ago.

It doesn't matter if I'm the only human being out of six billion on
the planet who knows this. Irregardless of the forcible consensus,
this is the way it will come to pass. I will be demonstrated right and
they will turn out to have been catastrophically wrong. Wishing
otherwise never makes anything so.

In another ten years, Amerikwa will be utterly unrecognizable. I
predict that the first thing that will hit you no matter where you get
off a plane in that country will be the smell. Watch and see."

DonnaGiorno

[Topaz]

On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 12:29:33 -0400, Governor Swill
<governo...@gmail.com> wrote:



>The opposite is true. America is taking advantage of their poverty to
>pay them low wages. This depresses wages for everybody. Further,
>such workers can't go to the local dept of labor or *any* govt
>department when they go unpaid or are mistreated.

America and Canada became rich and prosperous because it was made by
White people. Mexico is backward and in poverty because of the
non-Whites. Equality is false. Whites are on average much more
intelligent that non-Whites.

[Topaz]

On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 13:20:04 -0400, Jonathan <writeI...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Every study I've seen shown society benefits
>more from illegal immigrants than it costs.
>And if they were given work permits that
>would drive wages up for everyone as you say.
>

They had their politically correct conclusions before making any
"studies".

Portugal was once a great nation. It might have been the greatest
nation on earth at one time. But now it is almost like a third world
country. What happened? Race-mixing is what happened. They let a lot
of Black people in and of course the result was racial inter-marriage.
Now the Portuguese people are not as White as they were. We need to
preserve the White race. Here are some quotes from Mein Kampf:

"All that we admire in the world to-day, its science, its art, its
technical developments and discoveries, are the products of the
creative activities of a few peoples, and it may be true that their
first beginnings must be attributed to one race. The maintenance of
civilization is wholly dependant on such peoples. Should they perish,
all that makes this earth beautiful will descend with them into the
grave."

"All the great civilizations of the past became decadent because the
originally creative race died out, as a result of the contamination on
the blood."

"Every manifestation of human culture, every product of art, science
and technical skill, which we see before our eyes to-day, is almost
exclusively the product of the Aryan creative power. This very fact
fully justifies the conclusion that it was the Aryan alone who founded
a superior type of humanity"

"The foundations of actual life in Japan to-day are not those of the
native Japanese culture, although this characterizes the external
features of the country, which features strike the eye of European
observers on account of their fundamental difference from us; but the
real foundations of contemporary Japanese life are the enormous
scientific and technical achievements of Europe and America, that is
to say, of Aryan peoples."
"A people that fails to preserve the purity of its racial blood
thereby destroys the unity of the soul of the nation in all its
manifestations. A disintegrated national character is the inevitable
consequence of the process of disintegration in the blood. And the
change which takes place in the spiritual and creative faculties of a
people is only an effect of the change that had modified its racial
substance."

"For in a world which would be composed of mongrels and Negroid all
ideals of human beauty and nobility and all hopes of an idealized
future for our humanity would be lost forever."

"It is especially the cultural creativeness which disappears when a
superior race inter-mixes with an inferior one."

"There may be hundreds of excellent States in this earth, and yet if
the Aryan, who is the creator and custodian of civilization, should
disappear, all culture that is on an adequate level with the spiritual
needs of the superior nations to-day would also disappear."

"We National Socialists know that in holding these views we take up a
revolutionary stand in the world to-day and that we are branded as
revolutionaries. But our views and our conduct will not be determined
by the approbation or disapprobation of our contemporaries, but only
by our duty to follow a truth which we have acknowledged. In doing
this we have reason to believe that posterity will have a clearer
insight"

"Thus for the first time a high inner purpose is accredited to the
State. In face of the ridiculous phrase that the State should do no
more than act as the guardian of public order and tranquility, so that
everybody can peacefully dupe everybody else, it is given a very high
mission indeed to preserve and encourage the highest type of humanity
which a beneficent Creator has bestowed on this earth."

[Topaz]

by Frank Roman
and Debbie O'Connor

THE TRAGEDY unfolding before us is the planned disappearance of the
White race through the process of racial blending and replacement.
The corporate media and the bought politicians define any resistance
to this tragedy as "evil racism." According to them, we are not
allowed to resist the continuing obliteration of our race, but are
ordered to appreciate it.

Sometimes this situation can result in discouragement. But then, out
of nowhere, a sign appears that we are actually making a difference
for our people. The most recent sign of progress comes in the form
of a lady from middle Tennessee who contacted your host following
the April 15th Frankly Speaking broadcast entitled "Girls and Women:
Stay True to Yourselves." As a wonderful postscript to that
well-received program I am presenting to you the thoughts and
insights of another racially aware woman, Debbie O'Connor:

"Hello ladies. My name is Debbie O'Connor. I am a mother and a
grandmother. I reside in middle Tennessee and I have a message for
you, woman to woman. I want to start by saying I am very grateful
for National Vanguard's work; and for Frank Roman allowing me to
speak with you about a subject that is of great concern to me and
ought to be important to you.
"First, I was raised in the South and taught to respect everyone who
in turn respected me regardless of their race. I was taught that
needless conflict should not be a way of life for me or anyone else
with good sense. Secondly, I was taught not to cross any racial
lines by dating or becoming involved with men who were not White. As
I matured, I came to cherish the normal gravitation toward my own
race that Nature had intended. Those were different times we lived
in and it went without saying that racial mixing for White women was
out of the question-and I passed that way of life on to my children.

"Compared to what your television, some of your peers, and the
schools tell you this sounds 'outdated' and 'stuffy.' But when you
consider what racial mixing does in the long term it begins to make
more sense. Barely a day goes by I do not see young White girls and
grown White women with mixed race children; children that have no
true racial identity. This, ladies, is a deviation from Nature-
because it kills your valuable European bloodline.
"Deep down inside your maternal soul, you know this is wrong.
"Do you really want your daughter or granddaughter to come home from
the hospital with a mixed race baby that will never be accepted by
its peers of either race? After all, a Black couple can no more give
birth to a White baby than a White couple can give birth to a Black
baby. The reason is because each race was created within a divine
plan; to fulfill its own destiny as only that race is capable of
doing. This is a law of Nature.
"Too many among the present generation of young Whites are
committing racial suicide. I am deeply saddened to see White women
and mothers denying their own maternal instincts for racial survival.
"Consider this: Deep within your womanly intuition, do you honestly
believe that the precious White child with which you have been
blessed is literally no different than a non-White child? Do you
really believe it is a good thing to allow a White child's physical
and spiritual being to eventually merge into an
African-Mexican-Third-World mass?

"Like my friend, National Vanguard's Frank Roman, once said: 'What
could possibly be uplifting about biracial children, loss of
identity, and the corruption of two distinct gene pools?'
"Ladies, even as we speak, census data show that 45 percent of
children under age five are now from a racial 'minority.' And
non-Whites are taught by their parents to honor their race-while
White children are not. Unless something is done now the future of
White children is in terrible danger.

"Are you-by your words, your acts, or your silence-teaching
your child that White identity and White heritage are trivial? To
all the women who can hear me, remember: There is a heavy
responsibility that goes along with being a White mother. It has
nothing to do with 'hate.' It has everything to do with nurturing
your child, helping your child reach his or her true destiny, and
continuing our very identity into a future that will be so much
better with you and your child in it."
The world is indeed a much better place with people like Debbie
O'Connor in it. And our race is blessed as she continues to uphold
the very essence of morality and honor inherent in our people.

If more White parents would direct their children to the upward
path, teaching them that racial self-determination is the highest
value of all, the very pinnacle of morality-then, and only then,
will our people have a future: not only surviving, but flourishing
as the rightful heirs of their own destiny.

[Topaz]

It's a Wonderful Race

by James Bronson
There once was a college freshman named George who thought he knew it
all. One night over dinner, George got into an argument with his
father. The argument began when the young student tried to explain to
his father that as White people, they should be held accountable for
all the evils that they had inflicted upon non-Whites throughout
history. George explained: "Because of European racism, we stole the
Indians' land, we held blacks in slavery, we persecuted the Jews, and
we plundered the environment. We've been oppressive racists for
thousands of years so it's only fair that we pay economic reparations
for all the harm we've done to the world. I'm pleased to see that we
are ending our political and economic domination of the oppressed
peoples."

George's dad was shocked to hear such talk. "Who put such commie-pinko
nonsense into your head, boy? Did one of your sandal-wearing hippie
college professors teach you that?" the father asked.

To which the son replied: "That's the truth dad. My anthropology
professor, Dr.Irving Silverstein, says so. He ought to know. Dr.
Silverstein is a well-respected Ph.D. People of your generation just
don't understand because you were raised in a White supremacist racist
society. That's why I've come to admire Dr. Rev. Martin Luther King as
the greatest man in American history. He stood up to the racists of
your generation. Because of him, my generation of White kids is
completely colorblind."

The father angrily replied: "That's bullshit! I've always been
fair-minded and tolerant of people from all backgrounds and races. I
haven't 'oppressed' anybody, and furthermore there's nothing wrong
with being proud of one's own people, including the European race of
people. Your race is in your blood. It's like an extension of your
biological family and you ought to be proud of your European heritage
and identity, just like every other racial group in America is proud
of its. Why is it OK for them to have a strong sense of racial
identity but it's evil for us Europeans to feel that way?"

The young "intellectual" laughed at his father. "Come on dad, that's
the kind of crap Hitler tried to peddle. Those racist attitudes were
discredited years ago. There's only one race and that's the human
race. Diversity is our greatest strength. Differences in so-called
"race" are as insignificant as differences in belly buttons. And
besides, UN statistics now show that low White birth rates, along with
the fact that we live in an multicultural
society, will mean that Europeans and their ethnocentrist and racist
culture will have died out by the end of the century," young George
said.

Turning red with anger, the father yelled: "You are a walking cliché
you know that boy? And you think it's a good thing that the European
peoples of the world will have faded out and ceased to exist?" Young
George replied; "I think it's great! It will mean the end of racism
and the end of hate. The oppressed peoples of the world would have
been better off if us racist Europeans had never existed to begin
with."

Suddenly there was a blast of cold wind, an explosion, and a huge
smoke cloud. When the smoke had settled, George found himself alone
and lost in a cold open field. An angel named Clarence then appeared
to him and said "Well George, you've got your wish."

George asked: "Where am I? What's going on here? And who are you?"

The angel answered, "George, I'm Clarence the Angel. I was sent here
to show you what the world would have been like if Europeans, or
Whites, had never existed. You now live in a world where Europeans
never existed."

"Oh. That's cool. I'll have no problem adapting because there's not a
racist bone in my body. And when I get back to my world, I'll be able
to tell my professor and my friends how great this non-racist world
was. Say, I'm freezing my ass off out here. Where's the nearest
motel?"

"Motel?" replied the angel. "There are no motels here in what was once
called North America. But there are some caves up in those mountains
where you can find shelter."

"Caves? No way man. I want a nice warm bed to sleep in."

"I don't think you understand George. There are no buildings here in
non-white America because the evil Europeans never came here to build
them. Whites never existed, remember? The natives live in tents. Would
you like to go meet some local Indians? Perhaps they'll let you stay
in a tent."

"A tent? But it's 10 degrees outside?...Oh well. It's better than a
cave I suppose. Let's go talk to these Indians...... Wait a second,
are these Indians friendly or hostile?"

"Why, George, that's a racist question to ask. Just because some
Indians were brutal savages who scalped their victims alive, it
doesn't mean they all were" said the angel sarcastically.

"I know that Clarence. And I'm not a racist. I hate racism.
Nonetheless, I'd feel safer if I could have a gun to defend myself if
they turn out to be violent."

"Gun?" replied the angel. "There are no guns for you to defend
yourself with. Firearms were invented by evil Europeans. Though we
could make a spear with those twigs over there."

"That's too much work. Give me a telephone then. I'll call the Indians
to ask if it's OK."

"Telephone"? replied the angel. There are no telephones here.
Alexander Graham Bell was another evil white man, so he never existed.
No Europeans remember?" "Forget it then" replied George. "I'll sleep
in the damn cave."

Upon arriving at the cave, a shivering George asked the angel for a
lighter so that he could light a fire. "A lighter?" replied Clarence.
"There are no lighters here, and no matches. Those are European
gadgets and evil Europeans never existed remember? If you want to get
warm, you need to do like the locals do and start rubbing twigs
together."

"Oh come on man! You mean to tell me these people still rub sticks
together for fire?"

"That's right George. The Indians live exactly as they did before the
evil pilgrims arrived from Europe just a few centuries ago." said the
angel sarcastically.

"I refuse to stay in this cold cave and I damn sure ain't gonna light
a fire with twigs, and I refuse to sleep in a teepee. I'll go to South
America. I can make it in a warmer climate and I'll adapt quickly to
the great Incan civilization I learned about at college. Since
European racists like Columbus, Cortez and Pizzaro never existed, the
Incans will still be there.
... I need a car"

"Car?" replied the angel. "There are no cars here. Daimler and Benz,
the evil German inventors of the internal combustion engine, were
never born..nor was Henry Ford. There are no paved roads either. This
is a world without evil Europeans remember?"

"No cars! Oh. I'll just have to take a train."

"There are no trains in this world either George. Evil Europeans
weren't here to build locomotive engines or to discover the many uses
of coal, oil and gas, or to build trains or lay tracks. But I'll allow
you to cheat just a bit. Grab hold of my magic robe and we'll fly
south."

George touched the angel's robe and they flew south until they arrived
in an abandoned mud hut in the midst of Incan territory. George was
grateful for the warm weather but it wasn't long until he began to
complain about the heat and humidity.

"Clarence, this hut is a little shithole and I'm sweating up a storm
here. Get me an air-conditioner please."

"Air-conditioner?" replied the angel. "There are no air-conditioners
here. Air conditioning and refrigeration were inventions created by
evil White men." "What?!! You mean to tell me that in the year 2002
these people still haven't figured out a way to keep themselves or
their food cool? a frustrated George asked.

"No George, they haven't. And they never will."

"This is ridiculous. Let's go to the main city to see the Emperor. I
can't live like this. Where's a car...oh I forget...no cars! Dammit
I'll walk. let's go."

After walking through the jungle for about an hour or so, it began to
get dark. George then asked Clarence to give him a flashlight so that
he could see. "Flashlight? Sorry George, but Thomas Edison was an evil
White man too...and he was never born. There are some branches over
there if you want to make a torch."

"Never mind that!" George shouted back.

By morning time, Clarence and George had arrived at the temple of the
Incans. A bloody human sacrifice was in progress. George turned to
Clarence and cried, "They're going to butcher that poor soul! Somebody
has got to stop this. What horrible murdering beasts! Can't anyone
stop them?"

The angel replied "I'm afraid not. Ritual killings are common place
here."Those evil European racists like Columbus, Cortez and Pizzaro
never existed so the Incans just continued their brutal ways. In fact,
it was the oppressed peoples themselves who made up the bulk of the
Spanish armed forces. The people saw the Spaniards as liberators who
would rid them of the oppressive Incan and Mayan rulers and give them
a better life."

"I can't blame them for helping the Spaniards then. This is a horrible
place. Get me out of this shithole now!" said George.

'Where would you like to go?" Clarence replied.

George said: "Take me to Africa, maybe there's a more advanced and
humane civilization there that I can fit into. Where the nearest
airport?"

"Oh, I forgot...no Wright Brothers." George said. "How about a boat?"

"Boats?" replied the angel. "I'm afraid the most seaworthy rafts
available to you won't be of much help in crossing the vast Atlantic
Ocean. The great Viking sailors and European navigators never existed.
No Phoenicians, no Leif Erickson, no Henry the Navigator, no Columbus,
no Magellan, no Hudson and no Robert Fulton. Even if you could build
your own ship, there would be no compass for you to navigate with and
no sextant either. I'm afraid you're stuck here George."

"Can I touch your robe and fly to Africa then" asked George.

"You're cheating again George, but all right. Touch my robe and we'll
fly to Africa."

When they arrived in Africa, George saw thousands of half-naked
African tribesmen being herded along a dirt path. They were guarded by
other Africans with spears. "What are they doing to those poor men?"
George asked Clarence.

"They are being enslaved by another tribe. Slavery was common in
Africa long before the whites arrived." Clarence said. "In fact, most
of the slaves who were shipped to the Americas were sold to the slave
traders by African tribal leaders."

"That's so sad.' George said. "I want to meet Martin Luther King.
Since his White assassin never existed, this great man should still be
alive. He's probably a great tribal chief somewhere and leader of an
advanced civilization. He will free these slaves from their African
masters. Take me to him Clarence."

Clarence led George to a little hut deep in the heart of Africa. The
naked women and children looked at George in wonder. The young men
were out on a hunt but the older men stayed behind. George was led to
the dingy little hut of the tribal witchdoctor and spiritual leader.
There he saw a wild-looking man with a necklace of teeth around his
neck and a huge ring pierced through his nose. "What the hell is that?
George asked.

"Meet Witch-doctor Matunbo Lutamba Kinga" Clarence said. He never
became Reverend Martin Luther King because there were no universities
or seminaries built to educate him. Europeans weren't there to create
such opportunities. But he did become the tribe's spiritual leader. He
specializes in casting evil spells. Perhaps he can help you?"

The witch doctor gazed in wonder at George. Then he motioned to his
henchmen to seize young George. The tribesmen grabbed hold of George
and tied him to a nearby tree.

"Stop it! Let me go. What are they going to do to me?" cried George
hysterically.

"They're going to perform a ritual killing on you George. The good
doctor King...I mean Kinga -- believes that by cutting your heart out
while you are still alive, it will bring good fortune and fertility to
his tribe," laughed Clarence.

"Clarence! Clarence! Help me Clarence! Help me!

"But George, you told me that you wanted to go to Africa and to meet
your hero Reverend King."

George said: "This part of Africa has not developed yet. I can see
that now. Take me to North Africa where Egypt and Carthage established
great civilizations. Just get me out of here, please."

Just as the witch doctor's spear was about to carve out George's
heart, George vanished into thin air. He then found himself on the
banks of the river Nile in Egypt.

"Thank you Clarence. Thank you," George said. "I don't understand it
Clarence. Why does so much of the world remain so brutal and
primitive? I learned during Black History Month about many talented
black inventors and scientists. Garrett Morgan, George Washington
Carver, Benjamin Banneker, Granville Woods. Then there's Dr. Carson,
the preeminent brain surgeon in all of America. Where are these men?"

Clarence replied: "Don't you understand yet? America, and Africa,
exist exactly as they did before the Europeans discovered them.
Civilization as you had known it had only been introduced to these
people just a few centuries ago by the Europeans. There are no
universities, no hospitals, no means of transportation other than
animals, no science, no medicine, no machines. In fact, the wheel
hasn't even been discovered in Sub-Saharan
Africa! Those black scientists, inventors, doctors, athletes, and
entertainers you speak of were never given the opportunity to realize
their full human potential because Europeans weren't around to
introduce higher civilization and learning to them. There are no
George Washington Carvers in this non-European world, no Dr. Carsons,
no Booker T. Washingtons, no Benjamin Bannekers, no Michael Jordans,
no Oprah Winfreys, no Bill Cosbys, no..."

"Stop it! That can't be!" cried George. "Let's walk over to the great
pyramids of Egypt right now and I'll show you one of the great wonders
of the world .....built by non-Whites"

They walked a few miles before George stopped and asked where the
nearest toilet was. "Toilets?" replied the angel. There are no toilets
or urinals in this world. Plumbing was developed by evil Europeans.
The people in this non-White world still relieve themselves in open
fields."

Clarence turned around so George could do his business. "I need some
toilet paper." George said.

"Toilet paper?" replied the angel. "There..."

"I know. I know. Toilet paper hasn't been invented yet. Just hand me a
rag then".

Clarence obliged and the two of them went on their way.

"I don't understand. According to my recollections from Geography
class, the great pyramids should be near this very spot. We ought to
be able to see them from miles away," said George.

"Well, George, I'm sure your professors at the college never told you
this, but the ancient Egyptians were not black or brown. They were
Caucasians. The anthropologists who examined the Egyptian mummies
confirmed this fact. There are no pyramids and no Sphinx either. And
the Carthaginians were White too."

George became depressed, but he was determined to prove his beliefs.
"What's in Europe?" he asked.

"Europe became populated by Huns and other Asiatic tribes. They've
settled down a bit but life is much the same as it is in North
America. A nomadic existence based on hunting and food gathering. No
great cities, no science, no buildings, no culture, no fine art - just
a hard daily struggle against life and the elements of nature. In a
Europe without evil Whites, the Roman Empire never existed nor did the
Greeks. There was no Renaissance either."

"Take me to Asia then. Surely the great civilizations of Persia,
India, China, and Japan will suit me" George said. "Clarence, to the
Taj Mahal please." "The Taj Mahal?" replied the angel. "Don't you know
that the ancient Persian and Indian civilizations were established by
ancient Indo-European tribes who crossed the Himalayas? They are the
ones who civilized India and built the Taj Mahal. Those are the great
civilizations
that Marco Polo, Columbus, and others were searching for.Did you know
that Iran is Persian for "land of the Aryan?"

George said: "Don't tell me that the Indians were White men! That
can't be. In the world I came from, I knew many Indians and they were
not White!"

Clarence explained: "As the centuries passed, the Indo-Europeans who
created Indian civilization intermarried with the native majorities
who populated the Indian subcontinent. Gradually there were less and
less evil White people until they faded out completely, along with the
advanced civilization they had built. You will notice that there are
still a few white-skinned and fair-haired Indians and Pakistanis
around today -- in the world you came from that is.

George became worried. He knew he could never fit into the harsh
primitive world he had been thrust into. Suddenly he thought of Japan.
"Japan! I'll show you now Clarence. Take me to Japan. If the Japanese
can make TVs and cameras then I'm sure I'll find a decent civilization
that I can live in."

Clarence transported George to Japan. George observed that Japanese
society was the most orderly, advanced and civil that he had seen, but
it seemed as if almost everyone was either a rice farmer, a fisherman,
or a soldier. There were no cars, no skyscrapers, no lights, no
stereos, no sciences, no technologies, no universities. It was a
stagnant agricultural society that seemed to have reached its high
water mark and was incapable of moving forward. George knew he could
not live here either.

Clarence explained to George: "Even the industrious Japanese and
Chinese peoples had to rely on the evil Europeans to build the modern
Asia that you had in mind. In this world, Japan exists exactly as it
did before Commodore Perry's American naval ships arrived in Japan in
the 1850s. There's no industry, no technology, no Fuji film, no Sony,
no Hitachi, no Panasonic, no Toyota, no Sushi bars, no baseball...none
of the trappings or comforts of modern life. These things don't exist
in Japan or anywhere else because
Europeans weren't there to create them and share them with the rest of
the world. Would you care for a bowl of rice George?"

George began to feel sick in both his body and his mind. Not only was
he depressed, but exposure to the harsh elements of nature had left
him physically ill. "Clarence, I seem to have contracted some type of
sickness. I must have some anti-biotics."

"Anti-biotics? There's no...

"Oh Shut up already! Then just take me back to the world as it was!"

"Sorry George. I'm not authorized to do that. Only my boss can make
that call." Clarence said to him: "You see George. Your father was
right. You really had a wonderful race. Don't you see what a foolish
mistake it is to be ashamed and guilty about your own people, and to
let them die out? This is what the world would be like without the
creative spark of Edison and Ford and Pasteur and Marconi. No great
scientists, or mathematicians, or inventors or fine artists. No
Archimedes, no Aristotle, no Socrates, no
Alexander, no Renaissance, no Newton, no Kepler, no Goddard, no
Mendel, no Tesla, no Faraday, no Guttenberg, no Shakespeare, no
Dickens, no Twain, no Mozart, no Beethoven, no Da Vinci, no
Michelangelo, no Galileo, no Copernicus. No Venice, no Paris, no
Lisbon, no Madrid, no Zurich, no Berlin, no St. Petersburg, no
Budapest, no Rome, no Milan, no Vienna, no London, no New York, no
Rio, no Sydney. No orchestras, no museums, no universities, no
hospitals, no libraries, no theaters, no radio, no books, no
television, no electricity, no refrigeration, no heating, no plumbing,
no houses, no steel, no stadiums, no vaccines, no cars, no planes, no
trains, no ships, no
dentists, no surgeons, no computers, no telephones, and most important
- there's no creative genius to be found that could create and sustain
such a high level of civilization. There's nothing for the people of
this world to build upon. It's just a daily struggle for subsistence.
A brutal planet where the few people who aren't mired in eternal
ignorance and darkness have reached their peak of civilization and are
advancing no further."

Clarence went on to lecture the broken and depressed young man for
seven days straight. He covered everything. History, science,
economics, philosophy, art, literature, fine music, architecture,
medicine, politics, agriculture, religion, and all the creations and
contributions that the European peoples had made in every conceivable
field of human endeavor. George listened closely to every word. He
felt like a man who had been
reborn.

After his lecture, Clarence the Angel floated away towards heaven. "I
hope you have found all this to be educational, and I hope you have
learned an important lesson. Enjoy your world George!" mocked the
departing angel.

George began to sob like a baby. It was the year 2002 and he was alone
and hungry in a backwards world where Europeans had never existed. He
cried out to the stars: "Please God. I see what a fool I've been. I
understand now what my father was trying to tell me. I want to go back
to the world that I came from. A world where Europeans not only
existed, but blessed the rest of humanity world with their unique
creative ability. I want to live in a civilized world. Please
God!...take me back!...take me back!...Oh God....please."

Suddenly George was transported back to his college dormitory. Drunk
with joy, George jumped into the showers before he could even take his
clothes off!.

"Warm water! and soap! Life is beautiful!" he screamed.

George's floor mates looked at him as if he was crazy. "George! Have
you gone crazy?" asked a bewildered schoolmate.

"No my friend. I haven't taken leave of my senses. I've come to them!"
George replied. George then began to sing classic European folk songs
in the shower. Miraculously, he was able to sing in many different
languages. He sang O Sole Mio in Italian, Amazing Grace in English,
Gloire Immortelle in French, Das Ist Der Tag in German, and also
Belgian, Spanish and French ballads and waltzes. Tears of sheer joy
began to stream down his cheeks. The degenerate music of Hip-Hop and
Rap lost all of its appeal to young George.

After his shower, George drove to a nearby restaurant and ordered two
whole entrees. One was Lasagna and the other was a delicious Veal
Marsala. With his Italian food he had a Greek salad with Spanish
olives and Russian dressing, drank a whole bottle of French wine,
followed by a German pastry for dessert. He finished his meal off with
a hot cup of English tea and a Cuban cigar.

George said out loud: "Oh those European peoples and their delicious
cuisine. Clarence was right after all. What a wonderful race!"

George was happy, but at the same time he realized there was much work
to be done. He thought of all those poor whites in Rhodesia and South
Africa who were being murdered and raped ever since they gave up
control of those once-European nations. He thought of the many
thousands of qualified Whites who were passed up for good jobs and
college entrance because of racial quotas that discriminate against
Europeans. He thought about the declining birthrates among all the
European nations of the world. He remembered that
Europeans everywhere were dwindling in numbers every year even as
their own nations were being flooded with third world immigration. He
recalled the O.J. Simpson verdict and how millions of blacks in
America cheered when that brutal double murderer was set free by a
black jury after he stabbed two Whites to death. He remembered the Los
Angeles riots of 1992, where dozens of Whites were dragged out of
their vehicles and killed like dogs in the streets by packs of
White-hating monsters who were never even punished! He remembered the
time when Jesse Jackson led a cheer at Stanford University: "Hey Hey
Ho Ho, Western Civ. has got to go!" His European blood began to
boil in righteous indignation when he recalled how Jesse Jackson once
said he had spit in White people's food when he was a young restaurant
worker. George now understood that that his people were on a collision
course with worldwide disaster and genocide. George realized that this
great people must not perish from the face of the earth.

George could not wait to see his father. He longed to embrace him and
apologize for all of the foolish and disrespectful things he had said
to him. But first, George had a score to settle with a certain college
professor. He walked into Dr. Silverstein's auditorium and quietly
took a seat in the back row. The nasal voiced Silverstein was
lecturing on and on
about racial and gender inequalities in European-centered
civilizations. It was vintage Silverstein. George's impressionable
White schoolmates, with their baggy pants, hip-hop clothes and
backwards baseball caps, were swallowing Silverstein's poison pills
hook, line and sinker. After letting Silverstein spew his cultural
poison for about 15 minutes or so, George raised his hand so that he
could give the professor a piece of his newly educated mind.

"George? Is that you? I remember you from last semester. I wasn't
aware that you were here today. I failed to recognize you in that
shirt and tie, and without your earrings. You must have enjoyed my
course so much that you signed up again eh? Class, I'd like for you to
meet George. He was one of my brightest students last semester. He
truly has a thorough grasp of the ideas presented in this course.
George, would you be so kind as to tell my class about that brilliant
term paper you wrote about European racism,
imperialism, and the need for monetary reparations?"

That's when young George let loose on the unsuspecting Professor.

"ENOUGH! You scheming devil! You mendacious fabricator of falsehoods!
You pusillanimous purveyor of pinko propaganda! How dare you try to
corrupt and manipulate our young minds when your filthy lies. We
Europeans have nothing to be ashamed of, nothing to apologize for, and
everything to be proud of. And most of all, we don't owe anybody
jack-shit - not one thin dime! To the contrary, it is the rest of
humanity that owes us a debt which can never be repaid! We are the
rightful heirs and protectors of a rich cultural heritage. You vile
manipulator! We are the sons of the Romans, the sons of
the Greeks, the Celtics, the Vikings, the Normans, the Saxons. Why do
you inflict shame and guilt upon us? We Europeans didn't just
contribute to civilization...WE ARE CIVILIZATION! And I declare that I
will no longer tolerate you shithead "intellectuals" trying to tear
our people down. Never again will we walk on eggshells when we speak,
always fearing that we might be called "racist." I no longer care what
people think. All that matters is the truth which you have sought to
pervert!"

"What are you up to anyway? Why do you to corrupt my young peers by
shoving false heroes down their throats. Enough of your Marxist games
of divide and conquer, you commie pinko subversive! I don't want to
learn anymore about Martin Luther King, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton or
Black History Month. They would not have amounted to anything without
the institutions of high civilization created by the European peoples.
I'm going to set this class straight about who the truly great men of
history are - the European
statesmen, scientists, explorers, monarchs, navigators, conquerors,
inventors, artists, writers, philosophers - the innovative giants of
history that you and your ilk have erased from our collective
memories. You speak of a world liberated from European influence?
Permit me tell your students about such a world, Silverstein, because
I can speak from personal experience, you wretched little conspiring
monster!"

Silverstein turned white as a ghost. He was shell-shocked and rendered
speechless for the first time in his career! Never in all of his years
at the University had a student dared to so boldly challenge his
falsehoods. Speaking from the heart as well as the mind, and with an
eloquence he never thought he could muster, George broke out into a
60-minute monologue on history, science, philosophy, culture, and all
the other attributes that
constitute high civilization. The young students were captivated by
George's brilliant oratory. Many were moved to tears. By the end of
his tirade, George's reawakened classmates were thundering their
approval of his speech. The class gave George a standing ovation and
they thanked him for helping them rediscover and reclaim their own
sense of pride and lost identity. The unstoppable power of truth had
melted away years of Marxist guilt tripping, self hate, wimpishness
and cultural brainwashing in just one unforgettable hour. The inspired
students proceeded to storm out of Silverstein's class,
throwing their hip-hop baseball caps and nose earrings at him as they
stampeded out and vowed never to return. They lifted George up upon
their shoulders and carried him out of the auditorium like a
conquering hero. With a glint in his eye, George glanced up towards
the sky, winked and said "Thank you, Clarence."

Dr. Silverstein was left humiliated and visibly shaken. He knew that
these reawakened European kids could never again be brainwashed with
"political correctness" and White guilt. Silverstein's greatest fear
was that more of these proud European youths would one day reawaken
and take their country and civilization back from the Silversteins of
the world.

Silverstein was worried, but he remained confident that most young men
and women would never learn the truth about their glorious past and
unique creative abilities. After all, the mass media, Hollywood, the
music industry, the colleges, and the public schools are all
controlled by "liberals" like Dr. Silverstein. With the power of
political correctness in their hands, they can continue to tear down
our European ancestors, destroy our
institutions and traditions, instigate blacks and other races against
the whites, flood America with third-world immigration, and push
"hip-hop" music, homosexuality, and other garbage onto a weak,
confused and morally degenerate youth. After reflecting upon these
facts, Silverstein smiled a devilish grin and muttered to himself: "A
few of these European sheep may wake up to what's being done to them,
but the majority of these idiots never will." And he smiled
again....and laughed with diabolical Marxist glee. Then
he repeated to himself "No...they will never figure it all out until
it's too late."

Or will they?

[Topaz]

On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 07:42:01 -0400, Jonathan <writeI...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On 6/26/2016 5:10 AM, Topaz wrote:
>
>
>
>Damn! Fascism comes out of the closet and into the
>mainstream. I guess the fact it gave us the Second
>World War and killed 50 million people appears
>to have escaped this...'PhD'.

How Americans Have Been Misled About World War II
Robert Higgs
http://www.lewrockwell.com/higgs/higgs77.html

... Many people are misled by formalities. They assume, for example,
that the United States went to war against Germany and Japan only
after its declarations of war against these nations in December 1941.
In truth, the United States had been at war for a long time before
making these declarations. Its war making took a variety of forms ...
Probably not one American .. in 10,000 - has an inkling of any of this
history. So effective has been the pro-Roosevelt, pro-American,
pro-World War II faction that in this country it has utterly dominated
teaching and popular writing about U.S. engagement

>
>Why didn't you post these essays by the very same 'PhD?

"What is Fascism" was more to the point of the conversation and the
subject line.

>
>
>"If Hitler Won World War II We'd Have A Better, More Just
>World Today"
>http://immigration-globalization.blogspot.com/>
>
>
>Or this PhD's description of the friendly Dr Mengele who
>he claims dedicated his life to helping Jews become
>...ah hum...healthier?
>
>
>Dr. Mengele™ (one of many doctors at Auschwitz™ and yet
>seemingly every Jew amazingly had an encounter with him.
>Further Dr. Mengele was a hygienist MD who worked at
>Auschwitz™ to examine inmates for proper hygiene
>in order to keep them alive).
>http://immigration-globalization.blogspot.com/
>

[Topaz]

"We National Socialists have grown accustomed since our takeover in
1933 to the particular attention of the leading politicians of the
U.S.A. and of the international Jews who stand behind them. Our
defensive measures against international Jewry have aroused increasing
tirades against Germany in America. Sometimes it seemed as if it would
be impossible to increase the flood of hatred and lies...

After leading politicians such as the American Secretary of the
Interior Harold Ickes and Senator Pittman attacked the German
government in the foulest manner, President Roosevelt did even more in
his New Year address. He tried to persuade the American people that
world peace was not assured, and that it was the duty of the American
people to defend three vital principles: those of religion, democracy
and international good will. Roosevelt did not believe these
principles were threatened by Soviet Russia or Soviet Spain, rather by
authoritarian Germany and Italy.

Millions are dead in Soviet Russia and Spanish priests estimate that a
half million people have been murdered there only because of their
faith, but that is not important and proves nothing. The dead do not
trouble the American President's conscience, indeed they did not stop
him from being the single world statesman to congratulate the Soviet
Russian government on the anniversary of the Bolshevist Revolution. No
other statesman did this, which explains why no other statesman
received such praise from the Soviet press. The Soviet press praised
the "noble efforts of the great American statesman."

Roosevelt also ignored the murder of millions of people when it was
called to his attention by a letter from the former Spanish ambassador
in Great Britain, the Marquis de Merry del Wal. The ambassador told
Mr. Roosevelt the following:

Your country's press tells the world of Your Excellency's protests
against the "persecution of the Jews" in Germany. According to the
press, you are deeply distressed by these events. How is it then that
the murder and massacre of 400,000 defenseless men, women and children
in Spain has not resulted in the slightest distress on your part?
These unfortunate people did not die on the battlefields of a civil
war. They were torn from their homes and murdered in public not only
because of their political, but also their religious, beliefs. Their
murderers openly declared their goal of destroying the very
civilization that Your Excellency defends. They have intentionally
destroyed thousands of churches and monuments along with uncounted
works of art and private homes. They have torn the clothes from nuns
and revealed them to everyone's eyes. They raped women and looted to a
degree unknown in the annals of the Christian era.

Your own ambassador, Your Excellency, against all the laws, norms and
customs of international law, has been forced to live away from the
government to which he is accredited, since as he said his personal
security would otherwise be in danger. I further know, Your
Excellency, that you have received certain proof of my assertions, for
I have made efforts to ensure that you have received reports that
support what I have said. Despite that, Your Excellency, you complain
about events in Germany, events that cannot be compared with what is
happening in Spain-and you have not given even the slightest sign of
disapproval at the death of hundreds of thousands of people who have
18 million fellow believers who are among the best citizens of your
country, far more than the two million Jews.

These people have been murdered solely because of their beliefs. Mr.
Roosevelt however has never spoken of a threat to faith or religion.
But they were only believers in a Christian church, after all. Mr.
Roosevelt is conducting a crusade against the authoritarian states
under the banner of religion only because the religious compatriots of
his closest friends have been put in their place in the authoritarian
states.

If President Roosevelt believes that he has to take the field to
defend democracy, we may ask where and when we have ever threatened or
attacked democracy. In the past years Germany has done nothing more
than to partially undo the injustices inflicted on it by the
predecessor of the current president of the U.S.A. Germany has not
arbitrarily altered the map of Europe as he did, creating states
against the will of their peoples only for purposes of power politics.
It has only reclaimed its citizens who suffered a decade long under
governments foreign or hostile to Germany...

In a closed session, he told the Defense Committee of the Senate that
the United States must be ready to support England and France in the
event of a European war. The President reportedly even suggested that
definite agreements already existed to this effect. He further
proposed the unrestricted sale of war materials to Western Europe. The
only restriction was that they had to be able to pay for it. When a
member of the American Senate asked how this policy could be squared
with the law demanding strict neutrality over against Europe,
Roosevelt replied: "We'll cross that bridge when we come to it."
These revelations naturally were a sensation throughout the world. The
impact was greater than the master of the White House in Washington
wanted. He therefore denied the reports. The force of his denial was
somewhat weakened by excited reports in the American press in which
various members of Congress refused to be called liars, and
furthermore suggested that Roosevelt had said even more during the
session than has been reported. The force of the denial was also
weakened by a cynical article in a French newspaper that noted that
"the strength of the claim has not been weakened, for it is not a
matter of the letter of the law, but of the spirit."...

Roosevelt is acting as the mouthpiece and puppet of international
Jewry when he attacks the authoritarian states. They want to use every
means to destroy the newly awakened nations...

The leaders of the Soviet Union tried to persuade their people that
true communism could only develop after all the other states of the
world were allies of the powers in Moscow, and the Red rulers in
Soviet Spain tried and tried to conceal their governmental
incompetence by unleashing a world conflict. We are not surprised to
see the American President in such company. The real rulers of the
Soviet Union are the same as in the United States: international
Jewry.

The truth of this claim is confirmed by the behavior of the wife of
the American President. Mrs. Roosevelt, as a sign of her support for
the Spanish Bolshevist rulers, accepted a gift of stolen etchings by
Spanish masters. Mrs. Roosevelt chaired an exhibition of busts of
Spanish Communist leaders, made by the Jew Josef Davidson. She also
invited the well-known top Bolshevist Toller to lunch. She surrounds
herself with wounded bigwigs of Soviet Spain under whose orders
500,000 Spaniards were killed only because they were faithful to their
beliefs and their religion...

America today is not governed by men like Roosevelt, Ickes, etc.,
rather its fate is determined by the Jews who stand behind them, Jews
like Baruch, Frankfurter, Morgenthau, etc. They are the real rulers of
America, and Roosevelt, Ickes, etc., are only their tools. The fact
that this is known in America is evident from a variety of newspaper
articles. The "New York Daily News," for example, wrote that "the wave
of anti-Semitism in America has increased significantly in recent
weeks and months." The fact that the Jew Bernard Baruch, the
President's closest adviser, is called the unofficial president of the
United States is proof of this fact.

But enough of that. We refuse to interfere in the affairs of other
nations. We think that every country gets the Jews that it deserves.
But we demand the same principle be extended to us. Let Mr. Roosevelt
carry out his reforms and crusades in his own country. He will not
live long enough to do it all. We do not think we have yet seen
anything on the other side of the ocean that is worth imitating. We
think it not a sign of ability, rather of incompetence, that a nation
with such enormous resources and space, with all modern methods, finds
itself in such mass misery and is unable to do anything to alleviate
that misery.

Where would Roosevelt be if he had had to deal with the situation the
Führer faced when he took power in Germany? Mr. Roosevelt has
agricultural resources more than sufficient to feed the country, yet
his people are starving. His country has enormous resources, yet
millions are unemployed. There is only one conclusion to be drawn."

[Topaz]

Here is part of Hitler's speech at Rheinmetall-Borsig Works, Berlin,
on December 10, 1940:

"In this Anglo-French world there exists, as it were, democracy, which
means the rule of the people by the people. Now the people must
possess some means of giving expression to their thoughts or their
wishes. Examining this problem more closely, we see that the people
themselves have originally no convictions of their own. Their
convictions are formed, of course, just as everywhere else. The
decisive question is who enlightens the people, who educates them? In
those countries, it is actually capital that rules; that is, nothing
more than a clique of a few hundred men who possess untold wealth and,
as a consequence of the peculiar structure of their national life, are
more or less independent and free. They say: 'Here we have liberty.'
By this they mean, above all, an uncontrolled economy, and by an
uncontrolled economy, the freedom not only to acquire capital but to
make absolutely free use of it. That means freedom from national
control or control by the people both in the acquisition of capital
and in its employment. This is really what they mean when they speak
of liberty. These capitalists create their own press and then speak of
the 'freedom of the press.'

In reality, every one of the newspapers has a master, and in every
case this master is the capitalist, the owner. This master, not the
editor, is the one who directs the policy of the paper. If the editor
tries to write other than what suits the master, he is ousted the next
day. This press, which is the absolutely submissive and characterless
slave of the owners, molds public opinion. Public opinion thus
mobilized by them is, in its turn, split up into political parties.
The difference between these parties is as small as it formerly was in
Germany. You know them, of course - the old parties. They were always
one and the same. In Britain matters are usually so arranged that
families are divided up, one member being a conservative, another a
liberal, and a third belonging to the labor party. Actually, all three
sit together as members of the family, decide upon their common
attitude and determine it. A further point is that the 'elected
people' actually form a community which operates and controls all
these organizations. For this reason, the opposition in England is
really always the same, for on all essential matters in which the
opposition has to make itself felt, the parties are always in
agreement. They have one and the same conviction and through the
medium of the press mold public opinion along corresponding lines. One
might well believe that in these countries of liberty and riches, the
people must possess an unlimited degree of prosperity. But no! On the
contrary, it is precisely in these countries that the distress of the
masses is greater than anywhere else. Such is the case in 'rich
Britain.'

She controls sixteen million square miles. In India, for example, a
hundred million colonial workers with a wretched standard of living
must labor for her. One might think, perhaps, that at least in England
itself every person must have his share of these riches. By no means!
In that country class distinction is the crassest imaginable. There is
poverty - incredible poverty - on the one side, and equally incredible
wealth on the other. They have not solved a single problem. The
workmen of that country which possesses more than one-sixth of the
globe and of the world's natural resources dwell in misery, and the
masses of the people are poorly clad.. In a country which ought to
have more than enough bread and every sort of fruit, we find millions
of the lower classes who have not even enough to fill their stomachs,
and go about hungry. A nation which could provide work for the whole
world must acknowledge the fact that it cannot even abolish
unemployment at home. For decades this rich Britain has had two and a
half million unemployed; rich America, ten to thirteen millions, year
after year; France, six, seven, and eight hundred thousand. Well, my
fellow-countrymen - what then are we to say about ourselves?
It is self-evident that where this democracy rules, the people as such
are not taken into consideration at all. The only thing that matters
is the existence of a few hundred gigantic capitalists who own all the
factories and their stock and, through them, control the people. The
masses of the people do not interest them in the least. They are
interested in them just as were our bourgeois parties in former times
- only when elections are being held, when they need votes. Otherwise,
the life of the masses is a matter of complete indifference to them.

To this must be added the difference in education. Is it not ludicrous
to hear a member of the British Labor Party - who, of course, as a
member of the Opposition is officially paid by the government - say:
'When the war is over, we will do something in social respects'?
It is the members of Parliament who are the directors of the business
concerns - just as used to be the case with us. But we have abolished
all that. A member of the Reichstag cannot belong to a Board of
Directors, except as a purely honorary member. He is prohibited from
accepting any emolument, financial or otherwise. This is not the case
in other countries.

They reply: 'That is why our form of government is sacred to us.' I
can well believe it, for that form of government certainly pays very
well.. But whether it is sacred to the mass of the people as well is
another matter.

The people as a whole definitely suffer. I do not consider it possible
in the long run for one man to work and toil for a whole year in
return for ridiculous wages, while another jumps into an express train
once a year and pockets enormous sums. Such conditions are a disgrace.
On the other hand, we National Socialists equally oppose the theory
that all men are equals. Today, when a man of genius makes some
astounding invention and enormously benefits his country by his
brains, we pay him his due, for he has really accomplished something
and been of use to his country. However, we hope to make it impossible
for idle drones to inhabit this country.

I could continue to cite examples indefinitely. The fact remains that
two worlds are face to face with one another. Our opponents are quite
right when they say: 'Nothing can reconcile us to the National
Socialist world.' How could a narrow-minded capitalist ever agree to
my principles? It would be easier for the Devil to go to church and
cross himself with holy water than for these people to comprehend the
ideas which are accepted facts to us today. But we have solved our
problems.

To take another instance where we are condemned: They claim to be
fighting for the maintenance of the gold standard as the currency
basis. That I can well believe, for the gold is in their hands. We,
too, once had gold, but it was stolen and extorted from us. When I
came to power, it was not malice which made me abandon the gold
standard. Germany simply had no gold left. Consequently, quitting the
gold standard presented no difficulties, for it is always easy to part
with what one does not have. We had no gold. We had no foreign
exchange. They had all been stolen and extorted from us during the
previous fifteen years. But, my fellow countrymen, I did not regret
it, for we have constructed our economic system on a wholly different
basis. In our eyes, gold is not of value in itself. It is only an
agent by which nations can be suppressed and dominated.
When I took over the government, I had only one hope on which to
build, namely, the efficiency and ability of the German nation and the
German workingman; the intelligence of our inventors, engineers,
technicians, chemists, and so forth. I built on the strength which
animates our economic system. One simple question faced me: Are we to
perish because we have no gold; am I to believe in a phantom which
spells our destruction? I championed the opposite opinion: Even though
we have no gold, we have capacity for work.

The German capacity for work is our gold and our capital, and with
this gold I can compete successfully with any power in the world. We
want to live in houses which have to be built. Hence, the workers must
build them, and the raw materials required must be procured by work.
My whole economic system has been built up on the conception of work.
We have solved our problems while, amazingly enough, the capitalist
countries and their currencies have suffered bankruptcy.

Sterling can find no market today. Throw it at any one and he will
step aside to avoid being hit. But our Reichsmark, which is backed by
no gold, has remained stable. Why? It has no gold cover; it is backed
by you and by your work. You have helped me to keep the mark stable.
German currency, with no gold coverage, is worth more today than gold
itself. It signifies unceasing production. This we owe to the German
farmer, who has worked from daybreak till nightfall. This we owe to
the German worker, who has given us his whole strength. The whole
problem has been solved in one instant, as if by magic.
My dear friends, if I had stated publicly eight or nine years ago: 'In
seven or eight years the problem of how to provide work for the
unemployed will be solved, and the problem then will be where to find
workers,' I should have harmed my cause. Every one would have
declared: 'The man is mad. It is useless to talk to him, much less to
support him. Nobody should vote for him. He is a fantastic creature.'
Today, however, all this has come true. Today, the only question for
us is where to find workers. That, my fellow countrymen, is the
blessing which work brings.

Work alone can create new work; money cannot create work. Work alone
can create values, values with which to reward those who work. The
work of one man makes it possible for another to live and continue to
work. And when we have mobilized the working capacity of our people to
its utmost, each individual worker will receive more and more of the
world's goods.

We have incorporated seven million unemployed into our economic
system; we have transformed another six millions from part-time into
full-time workers; we are even working overtime. And all this is paid
for in cash in Reichsmarks which maintained their value in peacetime.
In wartime we had to ration its purchasing capacity, not in order to
devalue it, but simply to earmark a portion of our industry for war
production to guide us to victory in the struggle for the future of
Germany...

One thing is certain, my fellow-countrymen: All in all, we have today
a state with a different economic and political orientation from that
of the Western democracies.
Well, it must now be made possible for the British worker to travel.
It is remarkable that they should at last hit upon the idea that
traveling should be something not for millionaires alone, but for the
people too. In this country, the problem was solved some time ago. In
the other countries - as is shown by their whole economic structure -
the selfishness of a relatively small stratum rules under the mask of
democracy. This stratum is neither checked nor controlled by anyone.

It is therefore understandable if an Englishman says: 'We do not want
our world to be subject to any sort of collapse.' Quite so. The
English know full well that their Empire is not menaced by us. But
they say quite truthfully: 'If the ideas that are popular in Germany
are not completely eliminated, they might become popular among our own
people, and that is the danger. We do not want this.' It would do no
harm if they did become popular there, but these people are just as
narrow-minded as many once were in Germany. In this respect they
prefer to remain bound to their conservative methods. They do not wish
to depart from them, and do not conceal the fact.

They say, 'The German methods do not suit us at all.'
And what are these methods? You know, my comrades, that I have
destroyed nothing in Germany. I have always proceeded very carefully,
because I believe - as I have already said - that we cannot afford to
wreck anything. I am proud that the Revolution of 1933 was brought to
pass without breaking a single windowpane. Nevertheless, we have
wrought enormous changes.

I wish to put before you a few basic facts: The first is that in the
capitalistic democratic world the most important principle of economy
is that the people exist for trade and industry, and that these in
turn exist for capital. We have reversed this principle by making
capital exist for trade and industry, and trade and industry exist for
the people. In other words, the people come first. Everything else is
but a means to this end. When an economic system is not capable of
feeding and clothing a people, then it is bad, regardless of whether a
few hundred people say: 'As far as I am concerned it is good,
excellent; my dividends are splendid.'

However, the dividends do not interest me at all. Here we have drawn
the line. They may then retort: 'Well, look here, that is just what we
mean. You jeopardize liberty.'
Yes, certainly, we jeopardize the liberty to profiteer at the expense
of the community, and, if necessary, we even abolish it. British
capitalists, to mention only one instance, can pocket dividends of 76,
80, 95, 140, and even 160 per cent from their armament industry.
Naturally they say: 'If the German methods grow apace and should prove
victorious, this sort of thing will stop.'

They are perfectly right. I should never tolerate such a state of
affairs. In my eyes, a 6 per cent dividend is sufficient. Even from
this 6 per cent we deduct one-half and, as for the rest, we must have
definite proof that it is invested in the interest of the country as a
whole. In other words, no individual has the right to dispose
arbitrarily of money which ought to be invested for the good of the
country. If he disposes of it sensibly, well and good; if not, the
National Socialist state will intervene.

To take another instance, besides dividends there are the so-called
directors' fees. You probably have no idea how appallingly active a
board of directors is. Once a year its members have to make a journey.
They have to go to the station, get into a first-class compartment and
travel to some place or other. They arrive at an appointed office at
about 10 or 11 A.M. There they must listen to a report. When the
report has been read, they must listen to a few comments on it. They
may be kept in their seats until 1 P.M. or even 2. Shortly after 2
o'clock they rise from their chairs and set out on their homeward
journey, again, of course, traveling first class. It is hardly
surprising that they claim 3,000, 4,000, or even 5,000 as compensation
for this: Our directors formerly did the same - for what a lot of time
it costs them! Such effort had to be made worth while! Of course, we
have got rid of all this nonsense, which was merely veiled
profiteering and even bribery.
In Germany, the people, without any doubt, decide their existence.
They determine the principles of their government. In fact it has been
possible in this country to incorporate many of the broad masses into
the National Socialist party, that gigantic organization embracing
millions and having millions of officials drawn from the people
themselves. This principle is extended to the highest ranks.

For the first time in German history, we have a state which has
absolutely abolished all social prejudices in regard to political
appointments as well as in private life. I myself am the best proof of
this. Just imagine: I am not even a lawyer, and yet I am your Leader!
It is not only in ordinary life that we have succeeded in appointing
the best among the people for every position. We have
Reichsstatthalters who were formerly agricultural laborers or
locksmiths. Yes, we have even succeeded in breaking down prejudice in
a place where it was most deep-seated -in the fighting forces.
Thousands of officers are being promoted from the ranks today. We have
done away with prejudice. We have generals who were ordinary soldiers
and noncommissioned officers twenty-two and twenty-three years ago. In
this instance, too, we have overcome all social obstacles. Thus, we
are building up our life for the future.

As you know we have countless schools, national political educational
establishments, Adolf Hitler schools, and so on. To these schools we
send gifted children of the broad masses, children of working men,
farmers' sons whose parents could never have afforded a higher
education for their children. We take them in gradually. They are
educated here, sent to the Ordensburgen, to the Party, later to take
their place in the State where they will some day fill the highest
posts....

Opposed to this there stands a completely different world. In the
world the highest ideal is the struggle for wealth, for capital, for
family possessions, for personal egoism; everything else is merely a
means to such ends. Two worlds confront each other today. We know
perfectly well that if we are defeated in this war it would not only
be the end of our National Socialist work of reconstruction, but the
end of the German people as a whole. For without its powers of
coordination, the German people would starve. Today the masses
dependent on us number 120 or 130 millions, of which 85 millions alone
are our own people. We remain ever aware of this fact.

On the other hand, that other world says: 'If we lose, our world-wide
capitalistic system will collapse. For it is we who save hoarded gold.
It is lying in our cellars and will lose its value. If the idea that
work is the decisive factor spreads abroad, what will happen to us? We
shall have bought our gold in vain. Our whole claim to world dominion
can then no longer be maintained. The people will do away with their
dynasties of high finance. They will present their social claims, and
the whole world system will be overthrown.'
I can well understand that they declare: 'Let us prevent this at all
costs; it must be prevented.' They can see exactly how our nation has
been reconstructed. You see it clearly. For instance, there we see a
state ruled by a numerically small upper class. They send their sons
to their own schools, to Eton. We have Adolf Hitler schools or
national political educational establishments. On the one hand, the
sons of plutocrats, financial magnates; on the other, the children of
the people. Etonians and Harrovians exclusively in leading positions
over there; in this country, men of the people in charge of the State.
These are the two worlds. I grant that one of the two must succumb.
Yes, one or the other. But if we were to succumb, the German people
would succumb with us. If the other were to succumb, I am convinced
that the nations will become free for the first time. We are not
fighting individual Englishmen or Frenchmen. We have nothing against
them. For years I proclaimed this as the aim of my foreign policy. We
demanded nothing of them, nothing at all. When they started the war
they could not say: 'We are doing so because the Germans asked this or
that of us.' They said, on the contrary: 'We are declaring war on you
because the German system of Government does not suit us; because we
fear it might spread to our own people.' For that reason they are
carrying on this war. They wanted to blast the German nation back to
the time of Versailles, to the indescribable misery of those days. But
they have made a great mistake.

If in this war everything points to the fact that gold is fighting
against work, capitalism against peoples, and reaction against the
progress of humanity, then work, the peoples, and progress will be
victorious. Even the support of the Jewish race will not avail the
others.

I have seen all this coming for years. What did I ask of the other
world? Nothing but the right for Germans to reunite and the
restoration of all that had been taken from them - nothing which would
have meant a loss to the other nations. How often have I stretched out
my hand to them? Ever since I came into power. I had not the slightest
wish to rearm.
For what do armaments mean? They absorb so much labor. It was I who
regarded work as being of decisive importance, who wished to employ
the working capacity of Germany for other plans. I think the news is
already out that, after all, I have some fairly important plans in my
mind, vast and splendid plans for my people. It is my ambition to make
the German people rich and to make the German homeland beautiful. I
want the standard of living of the individual raised. I want us to
have the most beautiful and the finest civilization. I should like the
theater - in fact, the whole of German civilization - to benefit all
the people and not to exist only for the upper ten thousand, as is the
case in England.

The plans which we had in mind were tremendous, and I needed workers
in order to realize them. Armament only deprives me of workers. I made
proposals to limit armaments. I was ridiculed. The only answer I
received was 'No.' I proposed the limitation of certain types of
armament. That was refused. I proposed that airplanes should be
altogether eliminated from warfare. That also was refused. I suggested
that bombers should be limited. That was refused. They said: 'That is
just how we wish to force our regime upon you.' ...

[Topaz]

Many people think they arrive at their own ideas all by themselves,
when in fact their ideas are usually made for them by Hollywood. Take
two movies that are anti-leadership propaganda, Gladiator, and
Braveheart.

In Gladiator they show a corrupt leader of Rome, but would it be
corrupt if Maximus was the leader? That would be much better than
having the lame senators running Rome. And of course in Braveheart the
Scots should have made William their leader. If he was the leader he
could have put the corrupt nobles in their place.

The purpose of the propaganda is to stop good people from wanting
power. The people who have the real power now, the bankers and the
media, are not threatened in the least by libertarians. But if there
was a leader that was really for the people they know they would be
put in their place.

In democracies money talks and those who can buy TV stations are
the rulers. These rulers don't even claim to be for anything but their
own profits and interests. People are much better off with a good
leader who has power above the money power.

[Topaz]

"Liberals and respectable conservatives say there is this RACE
problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the
third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white
countries."

"The Netherlands and Belgium are more crowded than Japan,
but nobody says Japan should solve this RACE problem by
bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote
with them."

"Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY
white country and ONLY white countries to "assimilate," i.e.,
intermarry, with all those non-whites."

"What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem
would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were
brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?"

"How long would it take anyone to realize I'm not talking about a
RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK
problem?"

"And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and
what kind of psycho black man wouldn't object to this?"

"But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of
genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable
conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews."

They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

"Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white."

[Topaz]

"There are various names for the ideology of the elite. Some call it
"political correctness." Others call it "Cultural Marxism." But the
labels don't matter as long as one understands what is going on: the
ruling elites are waging a cultural and racial war against Western
values, Western civilization, and particularly Western man, i.e., the
white man. In the name of the feel-good mantras of diversity and
multiculturalism, all the values of traditional white civilization
have been declared bad and everything opposed to them declared good.
Every idea, attitude, and institution that protects the white race and
promotes its continued existence is being destroyed, as a precondition
for the physical destruction of the race itself. No arena of life is
spared this agenda's icy grip. Every movie, television show, news
story, book, and sermon must advance it, under the watchful eye of an
army of censors and snitches demanding unyielding fidelity to the
agenda. No argument or evidence is allowed to challenge it."

J.B. Cash

[Jonathan]

On 6/27/2016 5:13 PM, Topaz wrote:
>
> by Frank Roman
> and Debbie O'Connor
>
> THE TRAGEDY unfolding before us is the planned disappearance of the
> White race through the process of racial blending and replacement.

"The result of all racial crossing is therefore in brief always
the following:
(a) Lowering of the level of the higher race;
(b) Physical and intellectual regression and hence the
beginning of a slowly but surely progressing sickness.
To bring about such a development is, then, nothing else
but to sin against the will of the Eternal Creator.
And as a sin this act is rewarded" (Mein Kampf, Chap. 11).

> The corporate media and the bought politicians define any resistance
> to this tragedy as "evil racism." According to them, we are not
> allowed to resist the continuing obliteration of our race, but are
> ordered to appreciate it.

"But even more: all at once the Jew also becomes liberal and
begins to rave about the necessary progress of mankind"
(Mein Kampf, Chap. 11).

"What we must fight for is to safeguard the existence and
reproduction of our race and our people, the sustenance
of our children and the purity of our blood, the freedom
and independence of the fatherland, so that our people
may mature for the fulfillment of the mission allotted
it by the Creator of the universe" (Mein Kampf, Chap. 8).

> "Deep down inside your maternal soul, you know this is wrong.
> "Do you really want your daughter or granddaughter to come home from
> the hospital with a mixed race baby that will never be accepted by
> its peers of either race? After all, a Black couple can no more give
> birth to a White baby than a White couple can give birth to a Black
> baby. The reason is because each race was created within a divine
> plan; to fulfill its own destiny as only that race is capable of
> doing. This is a law of Nature.

"Certainly we don't have to discuss these matters with the Jews,
the most modern inventors of this cultural perfume. Their
whole existence is an embodied protest against the aesthetics
of the Lord's image" In other words, Jews, since they are
mongrels, are not in the image of God and are an affront
to the image of God. (Mein Kampf, Chap. 6).

> "Too many among the present generation of young Whites are
> committing racial suicide.

Should the same renunciation not be possible if this
injunction is replaced by the admonition finally
to put an end to the constant and continuous
original sin of racial poisoning,
(Mein Kampf, Vol. 2, Chap. 2)

I am deeply saddened to see White women
> and mothers denying their own maternal instincts for racial survival.
> "Consider this: Deep within your womanly intuition, do you honestly
> believe that the precious White child with which you have been
> blessed is literally no different than a non-White child? Do you
> really believe it is a good thing to allow a White child's physical
> and spiritual being to eventually merge into an
> African-Mexican-Third-World mass?

"But since we set as the central point of this perception
and of this profession of belief the maintenance and hence
the security for the future of a being formed by God, we
thus serve the maintenance of a divine work and fulfill
a divine will - not in the secret twilight of a new house
of worship, but openly before the face of the Lord."

"A folkish state must therefore begin by raising marriage
from the level of a continuous defilement of the race, and give it the
consecration of an institution which is called upon to produce
images of the Lord and not monstrosities halfway between
man and ape" (Mein Kampf, Vol. 2, Chap. 2)

>
> "Like my friend, National Vanguard's Frank Roman, once said: 'What
> could possibly be uplifting about biracial children, loss of
> identity, and the corruption of two distinct gene pools?'
> "Ladies, even as we speak, census data show that 45 percent of
> children under age five are now from a racial 'minority.' And
> non-Whites are taught by their parents to honor their race-while
> White children are not. Unless something is done now the future of
> White children is in terrible danger.
>
> "Are you-by your words, your acts, or your silence-teaching
> your child that White identity and White heritage are trivial? To
> all the women who can hear me, remember: There is a heavy
> responsibility that goes along with being a White mother. It has
> nothing to do with 'hate.' It has everything to do with nurturing
> your child, helping your child reach his or her true destiny, and
> continuing our very identity into a future that will be so much
> better with you and your child in it."


> The world is indeed a much better place with people like Debbie
> O'Connor in it. And our race is blessed as she continues to uphold
> the very essence of morality and honor inherent in our people.
>
> If more White parents would direct their children to the upward
> path, teaching them that racial self-determination is the highest
> value of all, the very pinnacle of morality-then, and only then,
> will our people have a future: not only surviving, but flourishing
> as the rightful heirs of their own destiny.

"It would be more in keeping with the intention of the noblest man
in this world if our two Christian churches, instead of
annoying Negroes with missions which they neither desire
nor understand, would kindly, but in all seriousness,
teach our European humanity that where parents are not healthy
it is a deed pleasing to God to take pity on a poor little
healthy orphan child and give him father and mother, than
themselves to give birth to a sick child who will only
bring unhappiness and suffering on himself and the rest
of the world" (Mein Kampf, Vol. 2, Chap. 2)

[bookoflife.org]

On Saturday, June 25, 2016 at 9:26:55 AM UTC-7, Jonathan wrote:
shut up isis faggot. the elite in eu or usarabia ar e fucking goons. fago BBC suxer

[Andrew Swallow]

On 27/06/2016 21:35, Jonathan wrote:
{snip}

> The refugees accepted by the EU are grossly
> exaggerated btw, they claim last year they
> accepted 1.3 million total into the EU
> most into Germany, but Germany is padding
> the numbers.
> https://fullfact.org/immigration/ask-full-fact-germany-hasnt-accepted-800000-syrian-refugees/
>

Syria is an east Mediterranean country. Many of the immigrants are
Muslim men from west Mediterranean countries. The come for jobs, money,
homes and to have sex with white women.

[Governor Swill]

On Mon, 27 Jun 2016 08:51:52 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
<Beam-Me-Up-Scotty-is-exposed-as-unsustai...@cyberspace.nebulax.com>
wrote:

>On 06/27/2016 12:10 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 18:58:10 -0400, Jonathan wrote:
>>> And what is Europe doing about it? They cheer the
>>> decisiveness, they applaud the murder while
>>> furiously building fences to keep the refugees
>>> out.
>>
>> I gotta call bullshit on this one. Europe has welcomed millions.
>>
>> Swill
>>
>They are deporting them by the thousands....

I'll give you a thousand dollars for a million . . .

[Andrew Swallow]

On 28/06/2016 17:02, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Jun 2016 08:51:52 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
> <Beam-Me-Up-Scotty-is-exposed-as-unsustai...@cyberspace.nebulax.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 06/27/2016 12:10 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>> On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 18:58:10 -0400, Jonathan wrote:
>>>> And what is Europe doing about it? They cheer the
>>>> decisiveness, they applaud the murder while
>>>> furiously building fences to keep the refugees
>>>> out.
>>>
>>> I gotta call bullshit on this one. Europe has welcomed millions.
>>>
>>> Swill
>>>
>> They are deporting them by the thousands....
>
> I'll give you a thousand dollars for a million . . .
>
> Swill
>

Europe is still accepting thousands of refugees and immigrants. It is
also deporting thousands back to Turkey (but not Syria). Also people
with degrees in subjects like medicine and engineering are being told to
leave. Many thousands are now sleeping on the floor of school halls and
in tents. A total mess.

[Governor Swill]

On Mon, 27 Jun 2016 16:35:05 -0400, Jonathan wrote:
>Lebanon alone, a nation of 4 million, has accepted
>more Syrian refugees than all of the EU, one in four
>people in Lebanon are now Syrian refugees.

Might that have something to do with the fact that Syrians can simply
walk across the border into neighboring Jordan?

[Governor Swill]

Most of France's Muslim immigrants are from western Africa - former
French colonies - and went there legally under existing French
immigration law. Those populations have been discriminated against by
the Joe Rue in much the same way blacks have been discriminated
against in America by Joe Street.

Unable to get good jobs and opportunities, they ended up concentrated
in public housing in ghettos and became a focus of radicalization.

The refugees are not from western Africa. They're from Syria and
Europe has taken millions of them. The negative reactions to them,
especially in Scandinavia have come from the radical actions not of
Syrian refugees, but of the legal immigrants that came before.

That Daesh may indeed be slipping radicals in with refugee groups
might be assumed, but so far, no Syrian refugees that I know of have
committed the terrorist acts we so fear. The one possible exception
is Cologne.

[Piss on Putin]

On 6/25/2016 11:11 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> citizens don't believe their country is worth fighting
> for.





Russkie WW3 provocation:


http://freebeacon.com/national-security/russian-fighter-conducts-dangerous-intercept-of-u-s-recon-jet/

http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/america-responds-to-russian-provocation-in-baltic-sea-with-subdued-carefully-worded-statement/news-story/5a179d3685e87428767d4916b9162ecf

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/04/15/kerry-says-us-navy-destroyer-couldve-shot-down-russian-warplanes.html

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/23/politics/us-russian-bombers-july-4-intercept/

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/27/world/us-russia-bombers-intentions/

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/full-list-of-incidents-involving-russian-military-and-nato-since-march-2014-9851309.html


Russian military strategy causing dangerous encounters
Russian-su27.jpg

The Russian su-27 fighter jet photographed next to a Swedish
intelligence plane.

A full list of 39 incidents since March 2014

As classified by the European Leadership Network

High Risk Incidents

On 3 March 2014 a close encounter occurred between a SAS passenger plane
taking off from Copenhagen and a Russian reconnaissance aircraft which
did not transmit its position 50 miles south east of Malmo. A collision
was apparently avoided thanks only to good visibility and the alertness
of the passenger plane pilots. The SAS 737 plane was carrying 132
passengers to Rome.
On 5 September 2014 an Estonian security service operative, Eston
Kohver, was abducted by Russian agents from an Estonian border post, on
Estonian, and therefore NATO, territory. He was later taken to Moscow
and accused of espionage. The incident itself involved communications
jamming and the use of smoke grenades, and took place immediately after
President Obama’s visit to the region and his repetition of security
assurances to the Baltic States.
Between 17-27 October, 2014 a major submarine hunt by Swedish
authorities was prompted by credible intelligence reports of
“underwater activity†in the Stockholm archipelago in Swedish
territorial waters. Supreme Commander General Sverker Göranson
underlined that Sweden was ready to use “armed force†to bring the
vessel to the surface if necessary. Russia issued denials and attempted
to ridicule Swedish concerns. The major search operation stopped on Oct. 24.
Serious Incidents with Escalation Risk

On 12 April 2014 an unarmed Russian fighter aircraft made 12 passes of
the American warship the USS Cook in the Black Sea. Such aggressive
behaviour, if repeated by an armed aircraft, could have resulted in the
ship commander targeting the aircraft in an act of self-defence.
On April 23 2014 an armed Russian fighter undertook very threatening
manoeuvres in the vicinity of an American reconnaissance aircraft in the
Sea of Okhotsk. These manoeuvres involved demonstrating that the fighter
was armed. Such behaviour is far removed from what would be expected in
a relatively routine encounter.
In June 2014 armed Russian aircraft approached the heavily populated
Danish island of Bornholm before breaking off in what appears to have
been a simulated attack. The Danish intelligence service described the
incident as “of a more offensive character than observed in recent
years.â€
On 16 July 2014 an armed Russian aircraft intercepted a Swedish
surveillance plane conducting operations between Gotland and Latvia in
international airspace, and flew within 10 metres of the plane. This
indicated a far more aggressive approach to intercepting aircraft than
in previous encounters.
On 18 July 2014 an American surveillance plane conducting operations
near Kaliningrad was chased into Swedish air-space after being
approached by Russian fighters. This evasive action took place without
Sweden’s prior approval that the US aircraft could enter Swedish airspace.
In early September, 2014 Russian strategic bombers in the Labrador Sea
near Canada practiced cruise missile strikes on the United States. The
Russian aircraft stayed outside of Canada’s ADIZ but this was still a
provocative move in light of the NATO summit ongoing at the time. Cruise
missiles launched from the Labrador Sea would have Ottawa, New York,
Washington, Chicago, and the Norfolk Naval Base in range.
On 7 September 2014 HMCS Toronto (a frigate) was buzzed by a Russian
aircraft in the Black Sea, with the plane coming within 300 metres of
the warship. HMCS Toronto locked its radar on the Russian plane but took
no further action as the aircraft was not armed. This incident coincided
with larger Russian naval combat training activities near Sevastopol.
Such aggressive behaviour, if repeated by an armed aircraft, could have
resulted in the ship commander targeting the aircraft in an act of
self-defence.
On 17 September 2014 two Russian military aircraft crossed into Swedish
air-space south of the island of Oland. The Russian Su-24 bombers
intentionally violated Swedish airspace possibly to test the
capabilities of the air defence system strengthened after previous
incidents. The Swedish Foreign Minister described the incident as the
‘most serious aerial incursion’ in years.
On 19 September 2014 Russian officers detained a Lithuanian shipping
vessel in international waters in the Barents Sea, subsequently towing
it to Murmansk. This represented a clear escalation in Russian attempts
at the provocation and intimidation of the Baltic States.
On 3 October 2014 a Russian fighter flew “within metres†of Swedish
surveillance aircraft in the Baltic in an incident deemed “unusually
provocative†. A collision between the aircraft would have had serious
repercussions for bilateral relations and increased military tensions
across the entire Baltic area.
From 28-30 October 2014, Russia conducted a major air exercise in the
North Sea, Atlantic, Black Sea and Baltic Sea. In a series of
developments, aircraft from NATO states and partners tracked Russian
long-range bombers conducting missions across this entire area,
including a large formation of Russian fighters and bombers conducting
missions over the Baltic Sea. All missions were conducted in
international airspace but their scale and use of different kinds of
aircraft and different zones of operation has added significantly to
increased tensions between NATO and Russia.
Near Routine Incidents

On 10 April 2014 two Russian Navy vessels involved in live missile
firing exercises entered Lithuania’s Baltic maritime economic zone,
causing serious disruption to shipping.
On 20 April 2014 a Russian recon aircraft observed Swedish military
installations. Unclear if there was a Swedish response.
On 23 April 2014 a Russian aircraft entered Dutch airspace before being
intercepted by Dutch fighter aircraft.
On 24 April 2014 RAF fighters intercepted and shadowed Russian aircraft
in international airspace over the North Sea.
On 28 April 2014, fighters with the Nato Baltic Air Policing force
scrambled to intercept Russian aircraft in international airspace.
On 9 May 2014 Russian aircraft approached to within 50 miles of the
Californian coast, the closest such Russian military flight since the
Cold War.
On 18 May 2014 RAF fighters intercepted a Russian helicopter and
shadowed it back to its parent corvette in the Baltic Sea; the fighters
later performed several passes of the Russian warship.
In late May, early June 2014 Russian aircraft carried out several
incursions into the US and Canadian Air Defence Identification Zones in
the Arctic.
On 12 June 2014, Nato fighters intercepted Russian aircraft in
international airspace near Latvia.
On 17 June 2014, RAF fighters intercepted a Russian air formation in
international airspace.
On 19 June 2014; HMS Montrose, a British frigate, was sent to
investigate a Russian corvette in international waters near Denmark’s
Baltic coast. HMS Montrose was subsequently circled by Russian maritime
patrol aircraft.
From 21 May to 13 August 2014, a series of short airspace violations by
Russian aircraft were reported over the Estonian island of Vaindloo.
On 1 August, Polish fighters of the Nato Baltic air-policing mission
intercepted Russian aircraft flying near Estonia airspace.
In early August 2014 several Russian air incursions were reported into
the Alaskan Air Defence Identification Zone.
On 7 August 2014 anti-submarine forces of Russia’s Northern Fleet
reportedly expelled an American submarine from the Barents Sea. The US
denied its submarines were operating in the area.
On 28 August 2014, there was an air incident involving an unknown Nato
country and Russia. No details beyond aircraft type except that incident
took place over the Baltic.
In August/September 2014, Russian naval and air units interfered with
the operations of a Finnish research vessel on two separate occasions.
In late August, 2014, multiple breaches of Finnish air-space by Russian
state aircraft were reported. In response, Finland has already indicated
that it will react more firmly to violations of its airspace in future.
On 11 September 2014, Canadian jets intercepted Russian aircraft in
international airspace.
Between the 17 and 18 September 2014, Russian jets entered the ADIZ off
the coast of Alaska (officials say such incidents happen around 10 times
a year) on two separate occasions, once on the evening of Wednesday 17th
Sep (USA ADIZ) and once on the morning of Thursday 18th Sep (Canadian
ADIZ, Beaufort Sea). The Russian planes were intercepted by American and
Canadian fighters. These incidents coincide with Ukrainian President
Petro Poroshenko’s visits to Ottawa and Washington.
On 19 September 2014, RAF jets shadowed Russian aircraft in
international airspace above the north sea.
On 29 September 2014, Latvian forces observed a Russian warship
operating 14 miles from Latvian territorial waters; article observes
that Russian jets and warships have been detected 173 times near
Latvia’s borders as of September.
On 20 October 2014, planes from the Baltic Air Policing mission
intercepted Russian surveillance Il-20 aircraft in international airspace
On 21 October 2014 Baltic Air Policing planes (Portuguese F-16s)
intercepted Russian Il-20 surveillance aircraft which entered Estonian
airspace next to the island of Saarema for about a minute.
On 31 October 2014, RAF Typhoons intercepted Russian aircraft
approaching UK airspace.

[Topaz]

On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 13:07:18 -0400, Governor Swill
<governo...@gmail.com> wrote:


>the Joe Rue in much the same way blacks have been discriminated
>against in America by Joe Street.
>

If a rocket science company doesn't hire any blacks it is said that
Blacks are being descriminated against. Black neighborhoods are
pathetic and dangerous. It is said that this is because they are
discriminated against. The Jewish controlled media always takes the
side of Black criminals against White policemen. America is ruled by
Jews who hate the White race.


The former White nations and Japan are the first world. The Black
nations and India are the third world. In the middle, or the second
world are the Arabs and China. It is just as racialists would predict.
It is because the White race is on average much more intelligent than
the Black race. The people in Japan are much lighter in color than the
people in India.

All IQ tests have proven that Whites are on average much more
intelligent than Blacks. White people invented just about everything
important. Most leftists admit that Whites on average score higher on
the tests. They have their excuses for it, but all of their excuses
are demolished in "My Awakening" by David Duke.

[Andrew Swallow]

See

<http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/28/world/europe/germany-migrants-struggles-to-integrate.html>

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/28/world/europe/germany-migrants-struggles-to-integrate.html

[Governor Swill]

On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 17:26:42 +0100, Andrew Swallow wrote:
>Europe is still accepting thousands of refugees and immigrants. It is
>also deporting thousands back to Turkey (but not Syria). Also people
>with degrees in subjects like medicine and engineering are being told to
>leave. Many thousands are now sleeping on the floor of school halls and
>in tents. A total mess.

That's not good. They should be keeping the educated ones and sending
the others back, especially the more devout males.

[Governor Swill]

On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 22:25:02 +0100, Andrew Swallow wrote:

>See
>
><http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/28/world/europe/germany-migrants-struggles-to-integrate.html>
>
>http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/28/world/europe/germany-migrants-struggles-to-integrate.html

There's a difference between migrants and immigrants. France hasn't
done a very good job of assimilating its legal Muslim immigrants over
the years, I can't imagine Germany would do any better with refugees
in the space of months.

[Jonathan]

On 6/27/2016 5:14 PM, Topaz wrote:
>
>
> It's a Wonderful Race



>

> The angel answered, "George, I'm Clarence the Angel. I was sent here
> to show you what the world would have been like if Europeans, or
> Whites, had never existed. You now live in a world where Europeans
> never existed."
>

So that justifies slavery, or any crime for that matter?

Since, say, Bill Gates has done so much good for
this world then we should look the other way if he
should commit a serious crime? Is that what you're
saying?

Think of all the joy Bill Cosby has brought to
countless millions - free pass for rape.

Or how about Donald Trump? He's going to bring
so many 'good deals' to America he shouldn't
have to follow the law, right?

OK, I'm white so I can come over to your house and
steal you blind, and instead of calling the cops
you should thank me for being white.



Jonathan



s

[American Dream]

On 6/29/2016 4:09 PM, Jonathan wrote:
> Or how about Donald Trump? He's going to bring
> so many 'good deals' to America he shouldn't
> have to follow the law, right?

Which law is he not following?

Be SPECIFIC, you lying shitbag.

[Fred J. McCall]

Jonathan <writeI...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>Does this description ring a Donald Trump bell?
>

No, it doesn't.

>
>"...ideology that...usually includes ultra nationalism,
>populism, anti-immigration policies...and opposition
>to the parliamentary system and liberal democracy.
>

Right wing parties in Europe tend this way. Over here, not so much.


--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn

[Governor Swill]

Perhaps if the Dems become as passionate about Donald as the GOP has
been about Clinton, we'll find out.

But for starters, importing illegal workers to bypass INS.

[Governor Swill]

On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 21:28:57 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>Jonathan wrote:
>>Does this description ring a Donald Trump bell?
>No, it doesn't.
>>"...ideology that...usually includes ultra nationalism,
>>populism, anti-immigration policies...and opposition
>>to the parliamentary system and liberal democracy.

>Right wing parties in Europe tend this way. Over here, not so much.

Usenet is flush with ultra right wing, anti government, anti immigrant
nutjobs.

Lately, quite a few of them seem to have disappeared while a several
new nyms have appeared. They support of Donald without being willing
to explain why they support him.

If you ask, they'll only say 'because Clinton is worse'. Lucifer
might be worse than Donald, but in the lies, misdirections and stupid
ideas dept, he makes Hillary look like an amateur.

[Beam Me Up Scotty]

On 06/30/2016 11:12 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 21:28:57 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>> Jonathan wrote:
>>> Does this description ring a Donald Trump bell?
>> No, it doesn't.
>>> "...ideology that...usually includes ultra nationalism,
>>> populism, anti-immigration policies...and opposition
>>> to the parliamentary system and liberal democracy.
>
>> Right wing parties in Europe tend this way. Over here, not so much.
>
> Usenet is flush with ultra right wing, anti government, anti immigrant
> nutjobs.

The immigration laws are being violated and the ObamaRegime is complicit.

That would make those people that are anti Obama.... PRO constitution.

The people you call nutjobs, are actually the sane constitutional ones
here in this scenario and that leave you as the violator of the
constitution and the anti immigrant and pro illegal immigrant.

The law requires steps to become an immigrant. The evasion of those laws
and steps, is a crime against the American people and the LEGAL
immigrants that are being admitted to the United States.

We are a nation of laws... that Liberals ignore undermine and violate
because they hate the U.S. constitution.

--
That's Karma ;)

Obama has no problem calling the police, racists and condemning them.

Why so much difficulty calling Muslims, terrorists and condemning them?

[Fred J. McCall]

Jonathan <writeI...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 6/26/2016 12:29 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 "Ted&Alice" wrote:
>>> jonathan wrote:
>>>> Those ungrateful little whores. Sounds like a problem
>>>> with poor supervision. Or more likely they can tell
>>>> their teachers hate them due to the color of their skin.
>>
>>> Even if the author is racist, his case isn't dependent on racism. Your
>>> objections are all beside the author's point, which is that illegal
>>> immigrants are taking gross advantage of American generosity.
>>
>> The opposite is true. America is taking advantage of their poverty to
>> pay them low wages. This depresses wages for everybody. Further,
>> such workers can't go to the local dept of labor or *any* govt
>> department when they go unpaid or are mistreated.
>>
>
>Every study I've seen shown society benefits
>more from illegal immigrants than it costs.
>And if they were given work permits that
>would drive wages up for everyone as you say.
>

That is the agenda of such studies.

>
>It's big business, the f l i p p i n' republicans
>

Horseshit.

>
>that want so many illegals running around, they
>know this country will never round up 11 million
>undocumented, but they c h e r i s h the cheap
>labor and cheap benefits just like Trump does for
>his businesses.
>

You really are quite insane, aren't you? No 'big business' with any
sense is going to hire a bunch of illegals as policy. Costs too much
when you get caught. You'll see individual hotels, seasonal labor
operations, etc. Lots of those folks are DEMOCRATS (like Trump was),
Jonthy.

>
>THE FACTS ARE undocumented workers exploded under
>Pres G.W. Bush, and that quick rise has stopped
>and started to fall since Pres Obama. Even though
>the Bush world wide economic collapse in 2008
>happened...after the rise peaked.
>

That's because they come when the economy is good and leave when it is
bad. DOH!

>
>http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/19/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/
>
>Oh but wait a minute, the republicans are blaming
>President Clinton and his legislation from...1994
>for that. Talk about nerve. It was Bush and his
>'who needs govt regulators' mantra that let the
>problem spin out of control.
>

Uh, no. Guess again.


--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
-- Thomas Jefferson

[Fred J. McCall]

Jonathan <writeI...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 6/25/2016 1:31 PM, Fight for America! wrote:
>> On 6/25/2016 11:21 AM, Jonathan wrote:
>>> On 6/25/2016 1:14 PM, Fight for America! wrote:
>>>> On 6/25/2016 11:09 AM, Jonathan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "They’re bringing drugs.They’re bringing crime.
>>>>> They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people!
>>>>> But I speak to border guards and they tell us what
>>>>> we’re getting. And it only makes common sense.
>>>>> They’re sending us not the right people.
>>>>> It’s coming from more than Mexico. It’s coming
>>>>> from all over South and Latin America, and
>>>>> it’s coming probably from the Middle East.
>>>>> But we don’t know. Because we have no protection
>>>>> and we have no competence, we don’t know
>>>>> what’s happening.
>>>>>
>>>>> And it’s got to stop and it’s got to stop fast.”
>>>>>
>>>>> ~Trump
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Damned straight!
>>>>
>>>> And traitors like you will be tried and executed.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for making my point.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for being an exterminable traitor to America, you swine.
>>
>
>A traitor is someone that wants to turn America into
>a police state. Or turn our backs on the concepts that
>made this country great, such as....
>

Neither one of you has a clue. A 'traitor' is someone who commits
'treason'. 'Treason' is quite narrowly defined in this country.

[Topaz]

On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 18:09:05 -0400, Jonathan <writeI...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>So that justifies slavery, or any crime for that matter?

Black tribal leaders in Africa started the slavery. They collected the
slaves and sold them to Jews for rum.

Blacks and Jews Newspage
http://www.blacksandjews.com/

The following Jews were known dealers, owners, shippers or supporters
of the slave trade and of the enslavement of Black African citizens
in early New York history.

Issack Asher
Jacob Barsimson
Joseph Bueno
Solomon Myers Cohen
Jacob Fonseca
Aberham Franckfort
Jacob Franks
Daniel Gomez
David Gomez
Isaac Gomez
Lewis Gomez
Mordecai Gomez
Rebekah Gomez
Ephraim Hart
Judah Hays
Harmon Hendricks
Uriah Hendricks
Uriah Hyam
Abraham Isaacs
Joshua Isaacs
Samuel Jacobs
Benjamin S. Judah
Cary Judah
Elizabeth Judah
Arthur Levy
Eleazar Levy
Hayman Levy
Isaac H. Levy
Jacob Levy
Joseph Israel Levy
Joshua Levy
Moses Levy
Uriah Phillips Levy
Isaac R. Marques
Moses Michaels
(E)Manuel Myers
Seixas Nathan
Simon Nathan
Rodrigo Pacheco
David Pardo
Isaac Pinheiro
Rachel Pinto
Morris Jacob Raphall
Abraham Sarzedas
Moses Seixas
Solomon Simpson
Nathan Simson
Simja De Torres
Benjamin Wolf
Alexander Zuntz

Jewish Role in Slavery: Quotes from Jewish historians
Moshe Kahan stated bluntly that in 1653-1658, "Jewish-Marrano
merchants were in control of the Spanish and Portuguese [slave] trade,
were almost in control of the Levantine trade...were interested in the
Dutch East and West Indian companies, were heavily involved in
shipping; and, most important, had at their disposal large amounts of
capital."

Lee M. Friedman, a one-time president of the American Jewish
Historical Society, wrote that in Brazil, where most of the Africans
actually went, "the bulk of the slave trade was in the hands of Jewish
settlers."

Herbert I. Bloom wrote that "the slave trade was one of the most
important Jewish activities here (in Surinam) as elsewhere in the
colonies." He even published a 1707 list of Jewish buyers by name with
the number of Black humans they purchased.

Cecil Roth, writer of 30 books and hundreds of articles on Jewish
history, wrote that the slave revolts in parts of South America "were
largely directed against [Jews] as being the greatest slave-holders of
the region."

Seymour B. Liebman in his New World Jewry, made it clear that "[t]he
ships were not only owned by Jews, but were manned by Jewish crews and
sailed under the command of Jewish captains."

In Brazil, where most black slaves were sent, Jewish scholar Arnold
Wiznitzer is most explicit about Jewish involvement:

"Besides their important position in the sugar industry and in tax
farming, [Jews] dominated the slave trade. From 1636 to 1645 a total
of 23,163 Negro slaves arrived from Africa and were sold for 6,714,423
florins. The West India Company, which monopolized imports of slaves
from Africa, sold slaves at public auctions against cash payment. It
happened that cash was mostly in the hands of Jews. The buyers who
appeared at the auctions were almost always Jews, and because of this
lack of competitors they could buy slaves at low prices. On the other
hand, there also was no competition in the selling of the slaves to
the plantation owners and other buyers, and most of them purchased on
credit payable at the next harvest in sugar. Profits up to 300 percent
of the purchase value were often realized with high interest
rates....If it happened that the date of such an auction fell on a
Jewish holiday the auction had to be postponed. This occurred on
Friday, October 21, 1644."

>
>Since, say, Bill Gates has done so much good for
>this world then we should look the other way if he
>should commit a serious crime? Is that what you're
>saying?

No, so you are saying Blacks should be given free handguns to help
them commit crimes? Is that what you are saying? I could go on and on
pretending you said that, but some might not get the joke.

>
>Think of all the joy Bill Cosby has brought to
>countless millions - free pass for rape.

He didn't bring me any joy. But I thought you were doing an
anti-White thing. Actually you just think I am against laws for some
unfathomable reason.

>
>Or how about Donald Trump? He's going to bring
>so many 'good deals' to America he shouldn't
>have to follow the law, right?

I went back and saw my post was about the "Wonderful Race". You must
have read it wrong or something.

>
>OK, I'm white so I can come over to your house and
>steal you blind, and instead of calling the cops
>you should thank me for being white.
>

"Next to slavery, lynching is thought to be the most racist aspect of
American history. A lynching museum exists in Milwaukee that focuses
exclusively on white-on-black lynchings. In 2000, a traveling exhibit
of white-on-black lynching photos came to American's biggest cities.
The lynching exhibit received favorable attention from the major media
including the Washington Post, New York Times and CNN. According to
CNN correspondent Maria Hinojosa, "All photos show voiceless victims
of hate; men and women stripped, lashed, beaten, burned and hung.
Often their only crime was one they could not control-the color of
their skin." She ends her review of the display by claiming, "The
exhibit is a harsh reminder of America's responsibility for a horrible
chapter of racial hatred."

This is the official view of lynching. That it was exclusively whites
who carried it out against innocent blacks. It is portrayed as a
viscous act of officially sanctioned white racism against innocent
blacks, designed to keep "Negroes in their place."

In fact, we know quite a bit about lynching and the facts indicate it
was far from a racist design practiced by whites to terrorize blacks.
From its founding in 1914 until the early 1930's. The New Republic ran
an annual editorial listing the number of lynchings in the United
States for each year. The NAACP's first big crusade was against
lynching and they frequently publicized statistics. The Chicago
Tribune also covered lynching extensively.

Robert Zangrando, cites statistics for the period of 1882-1968 in his
book, The NAACP Crusade Against Lynching. Using figures from the
Tuskegee Institute he finds a total of 4,742 for the 87-year period,
of which 1,297 victims were white and 3,445 were black. Even though
over a quarter of those lynched were white, this does not stop
lynching from being described almost entirely in racist terms..

The claim that lynching was primarily an act of racism against blacks
is almost never supported with evidence. In fact, both whites and
blacks carried out lynchings. Almost all cases of lynchings were
carried out not because of race, but because of viscous crimes -crimes
often perpetrated by blacks.

In Lynching - History and Analysis (1995) Wichita State University
professor Dwight Murphey refutes the case that lynchings were largely
a result white of racism. People often resorted to lynching because
the authorities were a long ride away, and President Andrew Jackson
himself sanctioned the practice when he recommended to Iowa settlers
that they lynch murderers. Likewise in Kansas, a New York Tribune
correspondent reported in 1858 that "[t]here is a very general
disposition to pass over the hopelessly useless forms of Territorial
law and corrupt Federal courts, and try these parties (i.e.
horse-thieves) by Lynch law."

Prof. Murphey notes that contrary to current assumptions, blacks also
formed lynch gangs, mostly to lynch blacks, but sometimes to lynch
whites. In Clarksdale, Tennessee, blacks lynched a white in 1914 for
raping a black woman. The authorities later ruled that this was
justifiable homicide. In 1872 in Chicot County, Arkansas, armed blacks
broke three whites out of jail and shot them to death.

Nor was lynching by any means a sport in which any black was fair
game. In Tennessee in 1911, four white men hanged a black man and his
two daughters for no good reason. This outrage roused the ire of the
community; the whites were tried and two were hanged.

It is true that blacks were lynched more often than whites, but, as is
the case today, blacks were also more likely to commit violent crimes,
so even if lynching had been entirely race-blind, the number of
executions would still have been racially unbalanced. Prof. Murphey
cites black homicide rates in 1921-22 for Atlanta, Birmingham, Memphis
and New Orleans per 100,000 that were 102.2, 97.2, 116.9 and 46.7
respectively. This corresponded to white rates of 15.0, 28.0, 29.6,
and 8.4. According to Murphey, "These figures are eloquent testimony
that serious crime was the primary provocation for lynching." Even
W.E.B. DuBois wrote disparagingly of "a class of black criminals,
loafers, and ne'er-do-wells who are a menace to their fellows, both
black and white." ...

Coleman E Howard

[Topaz]

On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 11:07:44 -0400, Governor Swill
<governo...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 17:26:42 +0100, Andrew Swallow wrote:
>>Europe is still accepting thousands of refugees and immigrants. It is
>>also deporting thousands back to Turkey (but not Syria). Also people
>>with degrees in subjects like medicine and engineering are being told to
>>leave. Many thousands are now sleeping on the floor of school halls and
>>in tents. A total mess.
>
>That's not good. They should be keeping the educated ones and sending
>the others back, especially the more devout males.
>

That is not good either. The countries they came from need their
educated ones. Whites have plenty of our own doctors and technicians.
We need to preserve the White race by having nations for White people.

[Ted&Alice]

Governor Swill wrote:

> On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 "Ted&Alice" wrote:
> > jonathan wrote:
> >> Those ungrateful little whores. Sounds like a problem
> >> with poor supervision. Or more likely they can tell
> >> their teachers hate them due to the color of their skin.
>
> > Even if the author is racist, his case isn't dependent on racism.
> > Your objections are all beside the author's point, which is that
> > illegal immigrants are taking gross advantage of American
> > generosity.
>
> The opposite is true. America is taking advantage of their poverty to
> pay them low wages. This depresses wages for everybody. Further,

> such workers can't go to the local dept of labor or any govt

> department when they go unpaid or are mistreated.
>

I agree with you, actually. I just mentioned to Jonathan that his
response was beside the OP's point.

> The lawsuit filed against Trump by the illegals he imported
> demonstrates this.
>
<http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/02/25/details_on_the_donald_trump_polish_worker_lawsuit.html>
>
> And what was Donald's response when he got caught importing illegal
> immigrants? "It worked out very well. Everybody was happy."
>
> Illegal immigrant labor reduces inflation, just ask any business that
> routinely hires them. They also put in more tax than they take out in
> services.
>

I don't doubt that.

> >> How dare they feel they deserve the same rights and benefits
> >> as 'real' American children. How dare they not bow in servitude
> >> and kiss your lilly white feet.
>
> > What does "illegal" mean?
>
> In the case of "illegal immigrant"? Exploited for starters. There
> are no penalties against employers who hire illegals except for those
> rare occasions when the INS has to raid a plant.
>

Again, Jonathan, although he's a bright guy (and smarter than I am),
was missing the point.

> >> > To those who want to point out how much these illegal immigrants
> >> > contribute to our society because they LIKE their gardener and
> >> > housekeeper and they like to pay less for tomatoes: spend some
> time >> > in the real world of illegal immigration and see the TRUE
> costs. >> Oh that's not a racist statement....gawd.
>
> > How is it racist?
>
> >> > Higher insurance, medical facilities closing, higher medical
> costs, >> > more crime, lower standards of education in our schools,
> >> > overcrowding, new diseases. For me, I'll pay more for tomatoes.
>
> >> You left out how they are all rapists too, like Trump says
> >> a few of them are nice people though.
>
> > You don't need any straw men here, Jonathan. But I know that you
> > can't help but construct them. It's part of your MO.
>
> Since that's Trump's argument, it's he, not Jonathon, who's erecting
> straw men.
>
> >> That's due mostly to lousy schools.
>
> > Whose fault?
>
> Sometimes budgeting. Sometimes poor teaching skills. Disengaged
> parents are a major issue as well.
>
> But the biggest problem is Americans feel entitled to good jobs and
> great pay. They don't feel they need education or should have to work
> so hard as say, an Asian immigrant whose kids get straight A's because
> their parents insist on it, and go on to take the great paying
> engineer job your kid couldn't get because a C average doesn't get you
> into college.
>
> >> So give them a work permit so they don't have to accept
> >> sub minimum wages and live in the shadows. Deporting
> >> millions in short order would make America into
> >> just another Russia
>
> > Or even another America, i.e. under other presidents and in the
> > opinions of many Democrats.
>
> That would also make them eligible for the very benefits most
> anti-immigrant folks don't want them to have.
>
> >> > All of this is at (OUR) taxpayer's expense.
> >> > He doesn't worry about car insurance, life insurance, or
> homeowners >> > insurance. Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs,
> bulletins and >> > printed material. He and his family receive the
> equivalent of >> > $20.00 to $30.00/hour in
> >> > benefits.
>
> >> Oh bullshit.
>
> > Likely. I'd ask for an itemized list.
>
> So would I. The trouble with positions based on emotion is that facts
> to justify it can be hard to come by.
>
> Swill

I'd like to see what would happen if they'd just open the border and
let as many in as wanna be here. If it's a mistake, it can be
corrected. But we might be missing an opportunity.

[Ted&Alice]

Jonathan wrote:

> On 6/26/2016 8:46 AM, Ted&Alice wrote:
> > jonathan wrote:
> >
> > > On 6/26/2016 5:13 AM, Topaz wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From a California school teacher,
> > > >
> > > > "As you listen to the news about the student protests over
> > > > illegal immigration, there are some things that you should be
> > > > aware of: I am in charge of the English-as-a-second-language
> > > > department at a large southern California high school which is
> > > > designated a Title 1 school, meaning that its students average
> > > > lower socioeconomic and income levels.
> > > >
> > > > Most of the schools you are hearing about, South Gate High, Bell
> > > > Gardens, Huntington Park, etc., where these students are
> > > > protesting, are also Title 1 schools.
> > > >
> > > > Title 1 schools are on the free breakfast and free lunch
> > > > program. When I say free breakfast, I'm not talking a glass of
> > > > milk and roll -- but a full breakfast and cereal bar with
> > > > fruits and juices that would make a Marriott proud. The waste
> > > > of this food is monumental, with trays and trays of it being
> > > > dumped in the trash uneaten.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This is a nationwide problem, not a problem limited to
> > > Mexicans. 40% of school lunches nationwide is wasted.
> > >
> > > FOOD RESCUE
> > >
> > > ​An estimated 1 billion Unpeeled, Unopened and Unwanted food
> > > items are discarded annually in American schools because
> > > our students are not given an alternative to dumping it
> > > in trash if they are full or do not want the item. -
> > >
> > > See more at:
> > >
> >
http://www.foodrescue.net/easy1.html?gclid=CjwKEAjw-r27BRCzsNyzrMrM-j0SJACp2TiBIIm5XtJ0L6v6CVstWYTixD4x2Dg3jxRI-c8iOGZgXRoCPJDw_wcB#sthash.h2tyOUtD.dpuf
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > I estimate that well over 50% of these students are obese or at
> > > > least moderately overweight.
> > >
> > >
> > > Again, this is a national problem not limited to Mexicans.
> > >
> > >
> > > Childhood obesity is a national epidemic. Nearly 1 in 3 children
> > > (ages 2-19) in the United States is overweight or obese,
> > >
> >
https://www.healthiergeneration.org/about_childhood_obesity/?gclid=CjwKEAjw-r27BRCzsNyzrMrM-j0SJACp2TiBf3w_3wWZLK3AvMREhDfKT-ohtDvLDrCaTbL4AMhkXhoCwCTw_wcB
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > About 75% or more DO have cell phones.
> > >
> > >
> > > Again, another attempt to paint Mexicans as somehow
> > > a burden or even more racist, ungrateful.
> > >
> > >
> > > 56 percent of children, age 8 to 12, have a cellphone.
> > > http://www.growingwireless.com/get-the-facts/quick-facts
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >> The
> > > > school also provides day care centers for the unwed teenage
> > > > pregnant girls (some as young as 13) so they can attend class
> > > > without the inconvenience of having to arrange for babysitters
> > > > or having family watch their kids.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Child care is a bad thing? Are you saying Mexican girls are
> > > all whores? Another typical racist stereotype.
> > >
> > >
> > > > I was ordered to spend $700,000 on my department or
> > > > risk losing funding for the upcoming year even though there was
> > > > little need for anything; my budget was already substantial.
> > >
> > >
> > > That is typical of govt programs, not a Mexican problem.
> > >
> > >
> > > > I ended up
> > > > buying new computers for the computer learning center, half of
> > > > which, one month later, have been carved with graffiti by the
> > > > appreciative students who obviously feel humbled and grateful to
> > > > have a free education in America.

> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Those ungrateful little whores. Sounds like a problem
> > > with poor supervision. Or more likely they can tell
> > > their teachers hate them due to the color of their skin.
> > >
> >
> > Even if the author is racist, his case isn't dependent on racism.
> > Your objections are all beside the author's point, which is that
> > illegal immigrants are taking gross advantage of American
> > generosity.
> >
> > >
> > >

> > > > I have had to intervene several times for young and substitute
> > > > teachers whose classes consist of many illegal immigrant
> > > > students, here in the country less then 3 months, who raised so
> > > > much hell with the female teachers, calling them
> > > > "Putas"(whores) and throwing things, that the teachers were in
> > > > tears.
> > > >
> > > > Free medical, free education, free food, free day care etc.,
> > > > etc, etc. Is it any wonder they feel entitled to not only be
> > > > in this country but to demand rights, privileges and
> > > > entitlements?

> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > How dare they feel they deserve the same rights and benefits
> > > as 'real' American children. How dare they not bow in servitude
> > > and kiss your lilly white feet.
> > >
> >
> > What does "illegal" mean?
> >
> > >

> > > > To those who want to point out how much these illegal immigrants
> > > > contribute to our society because they LIKE their gardener and
> > > > housekeeper and they like to pay less for tomatoes: spend some
> > > > time in the real world of illegal immigration and see the TRUE
> > > > costs.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh that's not a racist statement....gawd.
> > >
> >
> > How is it racist?
> >
> > >
> > > > Higher insurance, medical facilities closing, higher medical
> > > > costs, more crime, lower standards of education in our schools,
> > > > overcrowding, new diseases. For me, I'll pay more for tomatoes.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > You left out how they are all rapists too, like Trump says
> > > a few of them are nice people though.
> > >
> >
> > You don't need any straw men here, Jonathan. But I know that you
> > can't help but construct them. It's part of your MO.
> >
> > >

> > > > Americans, We need to wake up.
> > > >
> > > > It does, however, have everything to do with culture: It
> > > > involves an American third-world culture that does not value
> > > > education, that accepts children getting pregnant and dropping
> > > > out of school by 15 and that refuses to assimilate, and an
> > > > American culture that has become so weak and worried about
> > > > "political correctness" that we don't have the will to do
> > > > anything about it. If this makes your blood boil, as it did
> > > > mine, forward this to everyone you know.

> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > That's due mostly to lousy schools.
> > >
> >
> > Whose fault?
> >
> > >
> > >

> > > > CHEAP LABOR? Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is
> > > > about? Business doesn't want to pay a decent wage. Consumers
> > > > don't want expensive produce.
> > > >
> > > > Government will tell you Americans don't want the jobs. But the
> > > > bottom line is cheap labor. The phrase "cheap labor" is a myth,
> > > > a farce, and a lie. There is no such thing as "cheap labor."
> > > >
> > > > Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five
> > > > children. He takes a job for $5.00 or 6.00/hour.

> > >
> > >
> > > So give them a work permit so they don't have to accept
> > > sub minimum wages and live in the shadows. Deporting
> > > millions in short order would make America into
> > > just another Russia
> > >
> >
> > Or even another America, i.e. under other presidents and in the
> > opinions of many Democrats.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >

> > > > At that wage, with six dependents,
> > > > he pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year, if he files
> > > > an Income Tax Return, he gets an "earned income credit" of up
> > > > to $3,200 free.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Wow, that's living large at $15,000 per year those
> > > ungrateful rapists and whores.
> > >
> > > And they'll just spend all that cash on drugs right?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent.
> > > > He qualifies for food stamps.
> > > > He qualifies for free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care.
> > > > His children get free breakfasts and lunches at school.
> > > > He requires bilingual teachers and books.
> > > > He qualifies for relief from high energy bills.
> > > > If they are, or become, aged, blind or disabled, they qualify
> > > > for SSI.
> > > > If qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Are you saying $15k per year shouldn't qualify for
> > > assistance? Or only if you're white?
> > >
> > > So give them work permits so they can find better jobs.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > What does "illegal" mean?
> >
>
>
>
> How many of those 'ungrateful' Mexicans
> are illegal? Are you assuming they all are?
> And even for those that are illegal
> do you really want children running
> around malnourished, and without any
> medical care?
>
> Would that make the Trump supporters feel better
> to go into those areas and see starving
> and sick children? And how much more
> would it cost the taxpayers if every
> medical visit were to the emergency
> room, and no preventative medical care
> and so on?
>
>
>

Yeah, you're right about that.

[Ted&Alice]

Governor Swill wrote:

> On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 12:49:44 +0000 (UTC), "Ted&Alice" wrote:
> > The entire world would have become a vast slave camp. But WW2 still
> > could have been prevented by the allies.
>
> Not by us. Europe never wanted us to stick our nose in their business
> unless they needed military help. They kicked us to the curb when
> they wrote Versailles. They sure as hell wouldn't have been to keen
> on us showing up in the thirties telling them how to handle their
> affairs.
>
> Swill

Yep. Don't forget also that they screwed over President Wilson after
WW1. If they hadn't, there wouldn't have been any WW2.

[Jonathan]

Read this and see what a sleeze bag
Trump is.



Exclusive: Trump's 3,500 lawsuits unprecedented
for a presidential nominee

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/01/donald-trump-lawsuits-legal-battles/84995854/

[Jonathan]

Full Definition of treason

1: the betrayal of a trust : treachery






s

[Fred J. McCall]

Bullshit. Treason against the United States is defined in the
Constitution. You should go read it. Have someone explain it to you.

[bookoflife.org]

On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 8:07:47 AM UTC-7, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 17:26:42 +0100, Andrew Swallow wrote:
> >Europe is still accepting thousands of refugees and immigrants. It is
> >also deporting thousands back to Turkey (but not Syria). Also people
> >with degrees in subjects like medicine and engineering are being told to
> >leave. Many thousands are now sleeping on the floor of school halls and
> >in tents. A total mess.
>
> That's not good. They should be keeping the educated ones and sending
> the others back, especially the more devout males.

b/c ur a fucking racist. we should bring them all to your pad and let them do their good works and get these paganite fagholes, you, out off the planet?

[Topaz]

"There's this hilarious disconnect in the sheeple brain, where they
have been progressively brainwashed over a forty year period into
believing that once they have committed suicide themselves, an
identical civilization will be left behind except with a different
demographic makeup. They will yank the white tablecloth out from under
the dinnerware and the society will remain standing, only
melanin-enriched but otherwise the same.

It's like white people all over the planet were each taking turns
shooting themselves in the head with the same gun, convinced when they
have all killed themselves they will leave the perfect society behind.
I've got bad news for you. What you think of as civilization is joined
at the hip with the Indo-European gene pool. It's not even like oil
and water because it's all an unbroken continuum.

Culture is gene expression. If enough Mexicans inhabit any area on the
planet, that area will look exactly like Mexico in short order.

There's no piece of land on Earth that has a special gas exuded by the
local soil that makes flush toilets, clean running water, air
conditioning and the rule of law. There's no geographic location that
has these properties inherently. Irregardless of whether they are
bright enough to see it and understand why, whites tend to terraform
their surroundings to reflect what is inside them. Everything they
take for granted as the human standard, is in fact a projection of
their own qualities out onto a world that by and large is completely
indifferent to them.

America has already slipped past the demographic failsafe point. There
ain't no going back. Just like the nation formerly known as Rhodesia,
you will hear all sorts of yammering and analysis and whining but
nothing can stop Rhodesia from becoming Zimbabwe once all the
Rhodesians leave. It's a done deal.

There's no legislation. There's no emergency action committee. There's
no orchestrated government reform program. There's no mission
statement. There's no declaration of goals or judicial decision. Once
you change the genetic composition of a country, that country will
come to reflect it's demographics, not the other way around.
I went to high school in Chicago. Trust me, thirty years ago it didn't
look like the background of that news report. That was back when
Chicago schools were the best in the country and had some of the
highest scholastic scores in the nation. Back then, next to nobody
dropped out, ever.

You can't keep the street lights working with only half a nation of
high school graduates. You can't find the manpower to keep the ATM
machines running, to keep the power plant maintained at the dam, to
keep the nuclear reactor running. You can't have good medical care
with no good doctors. You can't have bridges that don't collapse with
no engineers.

America is just like Rhodesia during desegregation. All those
Rhodesians who talked about the coming era of rainbow folk dancing and
singing hand-in-hand with their African friends playing little
ukeleles, where are they now? The wind howls. Tumbleweeds blow past.
Two rabid wild dogs fight over a human ribcage in the streets where
the electricity went off a decade ago and has never come back on.
Where are all those Rhodesians looking forward to an era of peace and
harmony now? Where are they? Answer me. Raped and left for dead.
They're all wormfood now. Their farms burned to the ground, their
children strangled, their wives gangraped and forced to run naked
screaming with burning tire necklaces.

Fools. Dust in the wind. Shot in the back of the head and left for the
buzzards in some ditch on the veldt long ago.

It doesn't matter if I'm the only human being out of six billion on
the planet who knows this. Irregardless of the forcible consensus,
this is the way it will come to pass. I will be demonstrated right and
they will turn out to have been catastrophically wrong. Wishing
otherwise never makes anything so.

In another ten years, Amerikwa will be utterly unrecognizable. I
predict that the first thing that will hit you no matter where you get
off a plane in that country will be the smell. Watch and see."

DonnaGiorno

[Topaz]

The former White nations and Japan are the first world. The Black
nations and India are the third world. In the middle, or the second
world are the Arabs and China. It is just as racialists would predict.
It is because the White race is on average much more intelligent than
the Black race. The people in Japan are much lighter in color than the
people in India.

All IQ tests have proven that Whites are on average much more
intelligent than Blacks. White people invented just about everything
important. Most leftists admit that Whites on average score higher on
the tests. They have their excuses for it, but all of their excuses
are demolished in "My Awakening" by David Duke.

[Governor Swill]

Hopefully someone that can draw pictures.

Swill
--
Donald J. Trump: The asteroid destined to destroy
a party of dinosaurs. - Samantha Bee

Trump Claim: Ambassador Chris Stevens "was left helpless to die
as Hillary Clinton soundly slept in her bed..."
Fact: The attack in Benghazi was at 3:45 pm, Eastern.
Hillary was wide awake when the call came in.
Trump is a liar.

[Governor Swill]

On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 20:57:41 +0000 (UTC), "Ted&Alice" wrote:
>I'd like to see what would happen if they'd just open the border and
>let as many in as wanna be here. If it's a mistake, it can be
>corrected. But we might be missing an opportunity.

Nobody would cross. There aren't enough jobs. :)

[Governor Swill]

"Alan Garten, general counsel for the Trump Organization, said in an
interview that the number and tenor of the court cases is the “cost of
doing business” and on par with other companies of a similar size. "I
think we have far less litigation of companies of our size," he said.

"However, even by those measures, the number of cases in which Trump
is involved is extraordinary. For comparison, USA TODAY analyzed the
legal involvement for five top real-estate business executives: Edward
DeBartolo, shopping-center developer and former San Francisco 49ers
owner; Donald Bren, Irvine Company chairman and owner; Stephen Ross,
Time Warner Center developer; Sam Zell, Chicago real-estate magnate;
and Larry Silverstein, a New York developer famous for his involvement
in the World Trade Center properties.

"To maintain an apples-to-apples comparison, only actions that used
the developers' names were included. The analysis found Trump has been
involved in more legal skirmishes than all five of the others —
combined."

[Governor Swill]

Covered that in the Versailles reference. To be fair, they did
fashion the League of Nations which Wilson agreed with but the Senate
nixed.

[Governor Swill]

On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 11:42:26 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
<Liberalism-is-exposed-as-unsustainab...@cyberspace.nebulax.com>
wrote:

>On 06/30/2016 11:12 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 21:28:57 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>>> Jonathan wrote:
>>>> Does this description ring a Donald Trump bell?
>>> No, it doesn't.
>>>> "...ideology that...usually includes ultra nationalism,
>>>> populism, anti-immigration policies...and opposition
>>>> to the parliamentary system and liberal democracy.
>>
>>> Right wing parties in Europe tend this way. Over here, not so much.
>>
>> Usenet is flush with ultra right wing, anti government, anti immigrant
>> nutjobs.
>
>The immigration laws are being violated and the ObamaRegime is complicit.

And the Bush Regime and the Clinton Regime and the Bush Regime and the
Reagan Regime (especially the Reagan Regime) and the Carter Regime and
the Ford Regime. That's enough, point made.

>That would make those people that are anti Obama.... PRO constitution.
>The people you call nutjobs, are actually the sane constitutional ones
>here in this scenario and that leave you as the violator of the
>constitution and the anti immigrant and pro illegal immigrant.

Actually, the ones I call nutjobs are the ones who've been voting for
thirty years for the party that is primarily responsible for modern
illegal immigration. The Republican Party.

>The law requires steps to become an immigrant. The evasion of those laws
>and steps, is a crime against the American people and the LEGAL
>immigrants that are being admitted to the United States.

It's not just about immigrants. Many of them don't want to immigrate,
they just want to work here. Trump knows this because he's hired so
many illegals to work for him.

>We are a nation of laws... that Liberals ignore undermine and violate
>because they hate the U.S. constitution.

Just as conservatives ignore laws when it's convenient to their aims.

Swill
--
Donald J. Trump: The asteroid destined to destroy
a party of dinosaurs. - Samantha Bee

Trump Claim: Ambassador Chris Stevens "was left helpless to die
as Hillary Clinton soundly slept in her bed..."
Fact: The attack in Benghazi was at 3:45 pm, Eastern.
Hillary was wide awake when the call came in.
Trump is a liar.

[Ted&Alice]

Governor Swill wrote:

> On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 20:57:41 +0000 (UTC), "Ted&Alice" wrote:
> > I'd like to see what would happen if they'd just open the border and
> > let as many in as wanna be here. If it's a mistake, it can be
> > corrected. But we might be missing an opportunity.
>
> Nobody would cross. There aren't enough jobs. :)
>
> Swill

Really? Then are the worries unfounded?

[Ted&Alice]

Governor Swill wrote:

> On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 21:00:15 +0000 (UTC), "Ted&Alice"
> <ted.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Governor Swill wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 12:49:44 +0000 (UTC), "Ted&Alice" wrote:
> >> > The entire world would have become a vast slave camp. But WW2
> still >> > could have been prevented by the allies.
> >>
> >> Not by us. Europe never wanted us to stick our nose in their
> business >> unless they needed military help. They kicked us to the
> curb when >> they wrote Versailles. They sure as hell wouldn't have
> been to keen >> on us showing up in the thirties telling them how to
> handle their >> affairs.
> >>
> >> Swill
> >
> > Yep. Don't forget also that they screwed over President Wilson after
> > WW1. If they hadn't, there wouldn't have been any WW2.
>
> Covered that in the Versailles reference. To be fair, they did
> fashion the League of Nations which Wilson agreed with but the Senate
> nixed.
>
> Swill

Oh yeah, sorry I missed that.

[bookoflife.org]

On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 1:26:53 PM UTC-7, Governor Swill wrote:

> Nobody would cross. There aren't enough jobs. :)
>
> Swill

faggot baby raper, the come because they are given privileged and welfare, they need no job at the beginning it is all there, fago

ur docufo fagot ISIS baby raping lover, that explains your disconnect from logic and reason and an IQ above a worm.

[Jonathan]

On 6/28/2016 1:07 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 03:45:52 +0100, Andrew Swallow
> <am.sw...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> On 27/06/2016 21:35, Jonathan wrote:
>> {snip}
>>
>>> The refugees accepted by the EU are grossly
>>> exaggerated btw, they claim last year they
>>> accepted 1.3 million total into the EU
>>> most into Germany, but Germany is padding
>>> the numbers.
>>> https://fullfact.org/immigration/ask-full-fact-germany-hasnt-accepted-800000-syrian-refugees/
>>>
>>
>> Syria is an east Mediterranean country. Many of the immigrants are
>> Muslim men from west Mediterranean countries. The come for jobs, money,
>> homes and to have sex with white women.
>
> Most of France's Muslim immigrants are from western Africa - former
> French colonies - and went there legally under existing French
> immigration law. Those populations have been discriminated against by
> the Joe Rue in much the same way blacks have been discriminated
> against in America by Joe Street.
>
> Unable to get good jobs and opportunities, they ended up concentrated
> in public housing in ghettos and became a focus of radicalization.
>
> The refugees are not from western Africa. They're from Syria and
> Europe has taken millions of them. The negative reactions to them,
> especially in Scandinavia have come from the radical actions not of
> Syrian refugees, but of the legal immigrants that came before.
>
> That Daesh may indeed be slipping radicals in with refugee groups
> might be assumed, but so far, no Syrian refugees that I know of have
> committed the terrorist acts we so fear. The one possible exception
> is Cologne.
>



Every terror act from now on will be ISIS, regardless.

They are officially the world's boogeyman





> Swill
>

[bookoflife.org]

> Every terror act from now on will be ISIS, regardless.
>

shut up docufo faggot

https://plus.google.com/101934407385006779870/posts/7xwjkZFzxUP

> They are officially the world's boogeyman
>

or your family, another way to look at it :)
>
>
>
>
> > Swill
> >

[Andrew Swallow]

On 02/07/2016 00:42, Jonathan wrote:
> Every terror act from now on will be ISIS, regardless.
>
> They are officially the world's boogeyman
>

ISIS replaced Al Qaeda and will be replaced in turn. Possibly by an
African gang.

If the push by African Muslims into Europe is organised there are the
equivalent of generals giving the orders. To stem the tide of people
these leaders need to be found and dealt with.

[Topaz]

UN: Proven Ties Between ISIS And Israel

Posted by Sean Adl-Tabatabai

A new report from the UN reveals that the Israeli Defence Forces (IDF)
maintained regular contact with members of ISIS since May 2013. The UN
identified contact with IDF forces and ISIS soldiers. - See more at:
http://yournewswire.com/un-proven-ties-between-isis-and-israel/#sthash.X4jhsvpa.dpuf

- See more at:
http://yournewswire.com/un-proven-ties-between-isis-and-israel/#sthash.X4jhsvpa.dpuf

Documented Proof ISIS Is a Creation of The United States of America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqIyJycXxOo

http://www.tomatobubble.com/id872.html
By destroying ancient Christian sites, and by murdering contemporary
Christians themselves, the godless Israeli attack dog known as 'ISIS'
is killing two birds with one stone. Christians suffer while Muslims
takes the blame. Only the deluded devotees of Sulzberger's Slimes and
the rest of the piranha press actually believe that the mercenary scum
of ISIS are real Muslims. True Muslims do not murder, rape and loot.
Nor do they oppress Christians. Indeed the Koran venerates Jesus as a
Holy Prophet and commands Muslims to respect Christians.

Please see this very important youtube video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfXecU3v-70

Even before the documentation, it was obvious that "moderate" ISIS was
only attacking things Israel hates. Syria, Russia, France (France
wants to recognize Palestine; Bibi publicly warned that that was a
"grave error" about a week before Charlie Hebdo), Christians, Europe
and Hamas. It was also clear that we knew about the con that was going
on, because the USA were not attacking them at all, although the USA
were certainly pretending to be at war with them. Then Russia came
along...
Christopher Helms


by Dean Obeidallah
Denounce ISIS? Muslims despise ISIS. (At least those who aren't
pathological.)
True, ISIS is compromised of people who claim to be Muslims. But the
number one victim of this barbaric terror group is Muslims. That's
undisputed. ISIS has killed thousands of Muslims across the Middle
East, including beheading Sunni Muslims in Iraq for failing to pledge
loyalty to them, executing Imams for not submitting to them, and even
killing an Imam in Iraq for simply denouncing them.
And just a few days before the brutal terrorist assault in Paris, ISIS
launched a coordinated terrorist attack in Beirut, killing 43 and
wounding 239 people who were primarily if not exclusively Muslims.
However, in contrast to Paris, American media outlets barely covered
the Beirut attack. Apparently Muslims being killed by ISIS doesn't
attract enough ratings for U.S. media outlets to justify "full team"
or even quarter team coverage.

[Beam Me Up Scotty]

Won't the other terrorists be jealous?


--
That's Karma ;)

Obama has no problem calling the police, racists and condemning them.

Why so much difficulty calling Muslims, terrorists and condemning them?

[Governor Swill]

On Fri, 1 Jul "Ted&Alice" wrote:
>Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 20:57:41 +0000 (UTC), "Ted&Alice" wrote:
>> > I'd like to see what would happen if they'd just open the border and
>> > let as many in as wanna be here. If it's a mistake, it can be
>> > corrected. But we might be missing an opportunity.
>>
>> Nobody would cross. There aren't enough jobs. :)

>Really? Then are the worries unfounded?

You have NO sense of humor.

[Governor Swill]

On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:42:16 -0400, Jonathan wrote:
>On 6/28/2016 1:07 PM, Governor Swill wrote:

Certainly they deserve the acclaim. They may find that they don't
like being blamed for everything.

[Governor Swill]

I can see, if Muslims can't, that eventually, the West is going to get
fed up and start carpet bombing Mecca. If it gets bad enough, even
the United States will figure out a way to make the practice of Islam
a crime.

Btw, this was all foretold by Frank Herbert in his 1965 novel, "Dune"
and it's sequels.

[Fred J. McCall]

Governor Swill <governo...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>Swill
>

If you can't understand something as simple as ".sig files should
generally not exceed four lines in length", why the fuck would anyone
read your dissertation on politics?

[Jesus, where did all these stupid people come from?]

<plonk>


--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn

[Andrew Swallow]

On 02/07/2016 22:27, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 04:01:55 +0100, Andrew Swallow
> <am.sw...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> On 02/07/2016 00:42, Jonathan wrote:
>>> Every terror act from now on will be ISIS, regardless.
>>>
>>> They are officially the world's boogeyman
>>>
>> ISIS replaced Al Qaeda and will be replaced in turn. Possibly by an
>> African gang.
>>
>> If the push by African Muslims into Europe is organised there are the
>> equivalent of generals giving the orders. To stem the tide of people
>> these leaders need to be found and dealt with.
>
> I can see, if Muslims can't, that eventually, the West is going to get
> fed up and start carpet bombing Mecca. If it gets bad enough, even
> the United States will figure out a way to make the practice of Islam
> a crime.
>
> Btw, this was all foretold by Frank Herbert in his 1965 novel, "Dune"
> and it's sequels.
>
> Swill
>

The film possibly but the books were about mind altering drugs.

[Ted&Alice]

Governor Swill <governo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Jul "Ted&Alice" wrote:
>> Governor Swill wrote:
>>> On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 20:57:41 +0000 (UTC), "Ted&Alice" wrote:
>>>> I'd like to see what would happen if they'd just open the border and
>>>> let as many in as wanna be here. If it's a mistake, it can be
>>>> corrected. But we might be missing an opportunity.
>>>
>>> Nobody would cross. There aren't enough jobs. :)
>
>> Really? Then are the worries unfounded?
>
> You have NO sense of humor.
>
> Swill

Ah I see. (whoosh) Thanks for the clarification. Did you watch the Penn &
Teller Bullshit episode about illegal immigration from Mexico? They have no
problem with it.

[Governor Swill]

On Sun, 3 Jul 2016 00:50:20 +0000 (UTC), Ted&Alice
<sam.m....@gmail.com> wrote:

>Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Fri, 1 Jul "Ted&Alice" wrote:
>>> Governor Swill wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 20:57:41 +0000 (UTC), "Ted&Alice" wrote:
>>>>> I'd like to see what would happen if they'd just open the border and
>>>>> let as many in as wanna be here. If it's a mistake, it can be
>>>>> corrected. But we might be missing an opportunity.
>>>>
>>>> Nobody would cross. There aren't enough jobs. :)
>>
>>> Really? Then are the worries unfounded?
>>
>> You have NO sense of humor.

>Ah I see. (whoosh) Thanks for the clarification. Did you watch the Penn &
>Teller Bullshit episode about illegal immigration from Mexico? They have no
>problem with it.

Can't say as I did. Is it on Youtube?

[Governor Swill]

On Sat, 02 Jul 2016 14:35:52 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:

>If you can't understand something as simple as ".sig files should
>generally not exceed four lines in length", why the fuck would anyone
>read your dissertation on politics?

Gee, where is that in the Usenet rulebook?

>[Jesus, where did all these stupid people come from?]

Yo momma.

[Governor Swill]

On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 23:26:54 +0100, Andrew Swallow

<am.sw...@btinternet.com> wrote:

>On 02/07/2016 22:27, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 04:01:55 +0100, Andrew Swallow
>> <am.sw...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 02/07/2016 00:42, Jonathan wrote:
>>>> Every terror act from now on will be ISIS, regardless.
>>>>
>>>> They are officially the world's boogeyman
>>>>
>>> ISIS replaced Al Qaeda and will be replaced in turn. Possibly by an
>>> African gang.
>>>
>>> If the push by African Muslims into Europe is organised there are the
>>> equivalent of generals giving the orders. To stem the tide of people
>>> these leaders need to be found and dealt with.
>>
>> I can see, if Muslims can't, that eventually, the West is going to get
>> fed up and start carpet bombing Mecca. If it gets bad enough, even
>> the United States will figure out a way to make the practice of Islam
>> a crime.
>>
>> Btw, this was all foretold by Frank Herbert in his 1965 novel, "Dune"
>> and it's sequels.

>The film possibly but the books were about mind altering drugs.

Wasn't mentioned in the film. In the book series there's a bit about
the Fremen being a desert people on the original human planet (the
name and location of which has been lost to the mists of time). It's
in the context of their "natural" opposition to some Jewish characters
who appear on the scene. The Jews also are oppressed by the Orange
Catholics but still work with them to survive.

But I digress, the Fremen, technically, the main protagonist group of
the series, turn out to have been Muslims who fled earth during
genocide against their religion and the Jews by the Orange Catholics.

I should get them out and reread. Not sure which of them contains
this backstory reference.

[Jonathan]

On 7/1/2016 2:13 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
> Jonathan <writeI...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 6/30/2016 4:00 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>>> Jonathan <writeI...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/25/2016 1:31 PM, Fight for America! wrote:
>>>>> On 6/25/2016 11:21 AM, Jonathan wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/25/2016 1:14 PM, Fight for America! wrote:
>>>>>>> On 6/25/2016 11:09 AM, Jonathan wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "They’re bringing drugs.They’re bringing crime.
>>>>>>>> They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people!
>>>>>>>> But I speak to border guards and they tell us what
>>>>>>>> we’re getting. And it only makes common sense.
>>>>>>>> They’re sending us not the right people.
>>>>>>>> It’s coming from more than Mexico. It’s coming
>>>>>>>> from all over South and Latin America, and
>>>>>>>> it’s coming probably from the Middle East.
>>>>>>>> But we don’t know. Because we have no protection
>>>>>>>> and we have no competence, we don’t know
>>>>>>>> what’s happening.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And it’s got to stop and it’s got to stop fast.”
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ~Trump
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Damned straight!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And traitors like you will be tried and executed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for making my point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for being an exterminable traitor to America, you swine.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A traitor is someone that wants to turn America into
>>>> a police state. Or turn our backs on the concepts that
>>>> made this country great, such as....

>>>>
>>>
>>> Neither one of you has a clue. A 'traitor' is someone who commits
>>> 'treason'. 'Treason' is quite narrowly defined in this country.
>>>
>>
>> Full Definition of treason
>>
>> 1: the betrayal of a trust : treachery
>>
>
> Bullshit. Treason against the United States is defined in the
> Constitution. You should go read it. Have someone explain it to you.
>
>

Oh I forgot, like most fifth graders you've only
learned to use language literally. Abstract
uses of language still mystify you.

But of course you would know that the literal
use of the word treason means giving aid and
comfort to the enemy, comrade Fred.

Your fascist love of strong man like Putin, America's
greatest enemy today, is obvious to anyone
reading your posts. So I'm not surprised the
literal definition of treason is something you
think about rather often whenever looking
into your mirror.

[Topaz]

Many people think they arrive at their own ideas all by themselves,
when in fact their ideas are usually made for them by Hollywood. Take
two movies that are anti-leadership propaganda, Gladiator, and
Braveheart.

In Gladiator they show a corrupt leader of Rome, but would it be
corrupt if Maximus was the leader? That would be much better than
having the lame senators running Rome. And of course in Braveheart the
Scots should have made William their leader. If he was the leader he
could have put the corrupt nobles in their place.

The purpose of the propaganda is to stop good people from wanting
power. The people who have the real power now, the bankers and the
media, are not threatened in the least by libertarians. But if there
was a leader that was really for the people they know they would be
put in their place.

In democracies money talks and those who can buy TV stations are
the rulers. These rulers don't even claim to be for anything but their
own profits and interests. People are much better off with a good
leader who has power above the money power.

[Topaz]

The West is the White race.

The goal of America is to destroy the White race. The
multi-culture and pluralism they push is only at the expense of
Whites. No one is trying to push multi-culture in China or Japan or
anyplace but on the Whites. And they promote racial intermarriage.
If things continue as they are the White race is doomed.

And who is doing all of this? It is the USA government and the
media, in other words the Jews.

Many Whites are traitors. They support the USA government and their
own destruction. We should look for allies. And anyone who wants to
remove the Jews from power is our ally. In the past the Japanese were
our allies. Today it is the Muslims.

Osama bin Laden
September 24th statement published in Pakistan

"I have already said that we are not hostile to the United States. We
are against the system, which makes other nations slaves of the United
States, or forces them to mortgage their political and economic
freedom. This system is totally in control of the American Jews, whose
first priority is Israel, not the United States. It is simply that the
American people are themselves the slaves of the Jews and are forced
to live according to the principles and laws laid by them. So, the
punishment should reach Israel. In fact, it is Israel, which is giving
a blood bath to innocent Muslims and the U.S. is not uttering a single
word."

[Topaz]

CIA insider tells 911 truth. Time to re-examine your World-view,
America!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnbMjAN7Bws

The sudden, complete, straight down at near free-fall speed collapse
of steel framed WTC building 7, which was not touched by the planes,
is the SMOKING GUN of the 9/11 conspiracy. The building's few small
fires and superficial debris damage could not account for this
collapse, which had all the earmarks of controlled demolition by
explosives. Videos clearly show this. Such demolitions take many days
or weeks to set up - not the few hours between the plane "attacks" and
the collapse. The explosives therefore had to be put in place
BEFOREHAND. This lends credibility to the use of previously placed
explosives to bring down the towers as well, which like the badly
damaged and fire-gutted Deutchbank building would probably have
remained standing.

Propaganda shills, disinformationists, and those in psychological
denial still insist the collapse of WTC 7 could not be what it
obviously was, and they employ often ludicrous rationalizations and
fabrications, elaborate lies, and infantile ad-hominem attacks to
defend their indefensible position. The REAL terrorists are desperate
to cover up their mass-murderous crime of the century - the permitting
if not perpetration of, and subsequent political and economic
exploitation of the fully preventable 9/11 disaster.

Could Bin Laden have somehow totally incapacitated NORAD - the world's
most sophisticated aerospace defense system - on that horrible
morning? I don't think so!

There is evidence of an INSIDE JOB even more clear and indisputable
than the explosive demolition collapse of building 7 and the standing
down of NORAD. Many very small HUMAN BODY FRAGMENTS have been found on
the roofs of nearby buildings. These were too far away to be from
jumpers from the towers. If the towers simply collapsed from damage
and fire alone, what blew these bodies to smithereens and sent the
fragments flying for considerable distances? The plane impacts did not
have the explosive brisance (shattering force) necessary to do this -
only HIGH EXPLOSIVES can blow bodies to tiny bits and throw them such
distances.

So - who can credibly account for these body fragments, other than
their being the result of high explosives being detonated in the
towers?


The following article proves, using the inviolate laws of physics, the
falsity of the government's propaganda explanation for the World Trade
Center building collapses:

SIMPLE PHYSICS EXPOSES THE BIG 9/11 LIE - GOVERNMENT BUILDING COLLAPSE
EXPLANATION FAILS REALITY CHECK

On September 11, 2001, the world watched in horror as the World Trade
Center (WTC) Twin Towers collapsed, killing thousands of innocent
people. Videos of the collapses were replayed ad nauseam on TV for
days. About 5 hours after the towers fell, WTC building 7 also
collapsed suddenly, completely, and straight down at near free-fall
speed. This steel-framed building was not touched by the planes that
struck the towers, and had sustained relatively minor debris damage
and small fires. Nearby buildings far more heavily damaged remained
standing.

In June 2005, in an apparent response to an article by Morgan
Reynolds, former CIA Director and current Secretary of Defense Robert
Gates stated, "The American people know what they saw with their own
eyes on September11, 2001. To suggest any kind of government
conspiracy in the events of that day goes beyond the pale."

We will prove here, with scientific rigor, that it's the government's
tale that's "beyond the pale!"

Did most of the American people really understand the unprecedented
phenomena they had witnessed? Could a lack of knowledge of physics,
and the emotional shock of this mass-murderous "terrorist attack" have
stymied objective thinking and led to the blind acceptance of
authoritarian assertions?

The government and the media TOLD US what we saw. The government told
us that we had witnessed a "gravitational" collapse; what is now
referred to as a "pancake collapse". According to the government
claims, the plane crashes and subsequent kerosene (like lamp oil - jet
fuel is NOT exotic) fires heated the UL-certified structural steel to
the point where it was significantly weakened, which is very difficult
to believe, never mind repeat in an experiment. Even with massive
fires that incinerate everything else, the steel frames of such
buildings generally remain standing.

According to the "pancake theory", this purported (all physical
evidence was quickly and illegally destroyed) weakening supposedly
caused part of the tower to collapse downward onto the rest of the
tower, which, we've been repeatedly told, somehow resulted in a chain
reaction of the lower floors sequentially, one at a time, yielding to
the weight falling from above.

There are some problems with that theory - it does not fit the
observed facts

* It cannot account for the total failure of the immense vertical
steel core columns - as if they were there one moment and gone the
next.

* The collapse times were near free-fall, far too rapid to be due to
gravity
alone.

This "collapse" was not without far more physical resistance than from
the air alone. It proceeded through all the lower stories of the
tower. Those undamaged floors below the plane impact zone offered
resistance thousands of times greater than that of air. Those lower
stories, and the central steel core columns, had successfully
supported the mass of the tower for 30 years despite hurricane-force
winds and tremors. Air cannot do that.

Can anyone possibly imagine undamaged lower floors getting out of the
way of the upper floors as gracefully and relatively without friction
as air would? Can anyone possibly imagine the lower stories slowing
the fall of the upper floors less than would, say, a parachute?

What is certain, beyond any shadow of a doubt, is that the towers
could not have collapsed gravitationally, through their intact lower
stories, as rapidly as was observed on 9/11. Not even close. This is
shown to be physically impossible!


So WHERE DID ALL THAT ADDITIONAL DESTRUCTIVE ENERGY COME FROM?

Conclusions

In order for the towers to have collapsed "gravitationally" in the
observed duration, as we've been told over and over again, one or more
of the following zany-sounding conditions must have been met

* The undamaged structure below the impact zone offered zero
resistance to the collapse.
* The glass and concrete spontaneously disintegrated without any
expenditure of energy.
* The massive vertical steel core columns simply vanished, as if by
magic.

None of these laws-of-physics-violating, and thus impossible,
conditions can be accounted for by the official government theory of
9/11, nor by any of the subsequent analyses and arguments designed to
prop up this official myth of 9/11.

The Bottom Line


It is utterly impossible for a gravitational collapse to proceed so
destructively through a path of such great resistance in anywhere near
free-fall time. This fact debunks the preposterous contention that the
WTC collapses can be blamed solely upon damage resulting from the
plane impacts.

The unnaturally short durations of the top-down collapses reveal that
the towers did not disintegrate because they were coming down, but
rather they came down because something else was causing them to
disintegrate.

So, to the extent that people accept the ridiculous "pancake collapse"
story, former CIA Director and current Secretary of Defense Gates'
other premise, that people know what they saw, is also false. It is
left to you to decide if his conclusion, which was based upon clearly
incorrect presumptions, is also flawed.

The collapse of WTC building 7, which was NOT hit by any plane, also
collapsed within a second of free-fall time later that same day.

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20060118104223192

No steel-frame building, before or after the WTC buildings, has ever
collapsed due to fire. But explosives can effectively sever steel
columns

Understanding the full truth of 9/11 seems to require two separate
awakenings.

The first, awakening to the fraudulence of the "official 9/11 story,"
is a pretty simple brain function and only requires a little study,
logic or curiosity. We can help a lot with that part here and it's a
major purpose of this site.

The second step, however, consciously confronting the implications of
that knowledge--and what it says about our media, politics and
economic system today--is by far the harder awakening and requires an
enormous exercise of nerve and heart. (As the Chinese say, "You cannot
wake up a man who is pretending to sleep.") In other words, this part
of the journey depends more on character than on maps and evidence so
we can't help you much here, except to point out inspiring heroes and
heroines who have courageously faced that truth, spoken out, and
survived...

[Jonathan]

On 7/3/2016 5:07 AM, Topaz wrote:
>
>
> Many people think they arrive at their own ideas all by themselves,
> when in fact their ideas are usually made for them by Hollywood. Take
> two movies that are anti-leadership propaganda, Gladiator, and
> Braveheart.
>
> In Gladiator they show a corrupt leader of Rome, but would it be
> corrupt if Maximus was the leader? That would be much better than
> having the lame senators running Rome.

In the movie Maximus said he's return the Senate to power.

And of course in Braveheart the
> Scots should have made William their leader. If he was the leader he
> could have put the corrupt nobles in their place.
>
> The purpose of the propaganda is to stop good people from wanting
> power. The people who have the real power now, the bankers and the
> media, are not threatened in the least by libertarians. But if there
> was a leader that was really for the people they know they would be
> put in their place.
>
> In democracies money talks and those who can buy TV stations are
> the rulers. These rulers don't even claim to be for anything but their
> own profits and interests. People are much better off with a good
> leader who has power above the money power.
>

Trump is worth billions, tens of billions according
to him yet he can't buy his way into the White House.
It's his message that has gotten him this far, not
his money.

But it's the quick fixes of strong man rule that
get us into trouble. It may feel good to have
'decisiveness' and sweeping change, but the powerful
tend to use their power to...stay powerful, not
to help the people.

Russia is a great example of this, Putin has
taken all the power into his own hands, and
has stayed popular by starting wars that spur
patriotism and silence the opposition.

And if he feels he is about to lose his grip
on power in the future, he'll start another war
to stay popular.

And as a result the Russian economy and military
are circling the drain, his economy is now only
slightly larger than Mexico or California, he
cut the Russian GDP almost in half in just a
few years and put tens of millions of Russians
into poverty.

[Topaz]

On Sun, 3 Jul 2016 05:27:55 -0400, Jonathan <writeI...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>In the movie Maximus said he's return the Senate to power.

The movie is enemy Hollywood propaganda. But one could see that
Maximus would make a great leader and the Senate douchbags would not.

>
>But it's the quick fixes of strong man rule that
>get us into trouble.

http://www.e-ir.info/2013/03/16/why-did-south-korea-grow-rich-c-1960-1985/
South Korea's leader from 1961-1979, Park Chung-Hee, unlike preceding
rulers from the aristocratic Yi Dynasty (1392-1910), was from an
impoverished peasant family. It could only be speculated that being
denied the relative affluence of his predecessors could have been
propitious to his determination to unremittingly strive towards having
a thriving South Korean state. What is, however, less a moot point is
that given Korea's late (twentieth century) industrialisation, state
intervention was necessary to stimulate growth. Moreover, Korea's weak
institutions, recent engagement in the Korean War, and situation in
the Cold War, conferred on the state a great responsibility in
ensuring that industrialisation through learning was successful, and
that development was sustainable. The practice of state intervention
to further industrialisation was not unique to South Korea and was a
reversal of the negative trend of opening markets during colonization,
which proved detrimental to local industries. The term 'state' would
therefore be conceived in the mode of Weber as "a set of
organisations, including the administrative and legislative order,
with the authority to make and implement binding rules over all people
and all action in a particular territory, using force if
necessary."[1]
Conclusion
Korea is a now a rich multi-party democracy, with a booming economy
thriving on electronic products, machinery and transport equipment.
All factors being considered, it is the view of the researcher that
having a visionary, authoritarian and entrepreneurial leader is the
premier reason for South Korea growing rich. One cannot deny the fact
that alpha technology (such as machines, equipment and designs), beta
technology (such as the chaebol, an educated labour force and land
reform), and many other factors did help in stimulating growth.
However, these practices and policies had to be driven by someone -
someone with vision and a passion for development; someone who was
entrepreneurial enough to harness subsidies to the principle of
reciprocity; someone who was strategic enough to pursue
country-specific polices even amidst Western pressures and even while
benefitting from their financial assistance; someone who was stringent
enough to discipline underperforming firms; someone who was flexible
enough to concede (however reluctantly) to eventually improve working
conditions and to gradually open up the economy to rising business and
social classes. This iconic figure was Park Chung-Hee, under whose
regime there was unparalleled growth and who paradoxically, through
authoritarian policies, ushered in a wave of democratization. This is
no attempt to blindly eulogize Park, for authoritarian practices such
as Park's Yushin Constitution System (1972-1979) and his relations
with other nations as, for example, exemplified by the USS Pueblo
Incident, left much to be desired. However, had free elections been
embraced in Korea, there would have been no guarantee of Park as a
leader and Korea may have never been able to benefit from all the
initiatives that he would have introduced.