bin Laden: Dead or Alive??
Vicki Cleaver
http://au.dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/20010918/aapworld/1000762773-
1812840506.html
Okay, I'm all for the US getting justice for what has been done, but killing
bin Laden outright is only going to make him a martyr at this point. I'm
not sure what else can be done but look at the reaction to the Timothy
McVeigh execution. To have the President come out and say that killing him
is okay just doesn't sit well with me.
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Jadzia
<vickiclea...@dingoblue.net.au> wrote:
>With reference to this news report:
>
>http://au.dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/20010918/aapworld/1000762773-
>1812840506.html
>
>Okay, I'm all for the US getting justice for what has been done, but killing
>bin Laden outright is only going to make him a martyr at this point. I'm
>not sure what else can be done but look at the reaction to the Timothy
>McVeigh execution. To have the President come out and say that killing him
>is okay just doesn't sit well with me.
Well if he is dead then there will be more pop up true - but if he is
left live and kicking then he will just organise more terror.
There is no easy way out
Vicki Cleaver
<che...@cherry-tree.net> purred:
Yeh I know. That's what I meant by "I'm not sure what else can be done". I
strangely have no problem with the US bombing the territory harbouring bin
Laden IF he is proved to be behind the attacks. But to just go there and
kill him I do have a problem with. It's very strange and I cannot explain
it.
Jadzia
<vickiclea...@dingoblue.net.au> wrote:
>>
>> There is no easy way out
>
>Yeh I know. That's what I meant by "I'm not sure what else can be done". I
>strangely have no problem with the US bombing the territory harbouring bin
>Laden IF he is proved to be behind the attacks. But to just go there and
>kill him I do have a problem with. It's very strange and I cannot explain
>it.
Well it looks more and more like the European countries and Russia
will help the USA bring whoever is responsible to justice but are
balking at a fullscale war. Seems to me that Bush is the only one
calling out for a full scale war. If he seems bent more on revenge
than justice I wonder if the other supporters will back out. It will
be the USA Britain and Us against the middle east - and that is a
scary thought!
Vicki Cleaver
<che...@cherry-tree.net> purred:
> Well it looks more and more like the European countries and Russia
> will help the USA bring whoever is responsible to justice but are
> balking at a fullscale war. Seems to me that Bush is the only one
> calling out for a full scale war. If he seems bent more on revenge
> than justice I wonder if the other supporters will back out. It will
> be the USA Britain and Us against the middle east - and that is a
> scary thought!
Yep agreed. *So* bad!
John Mares
"Vicki Cleaver" <vickiclea...@dingoblue.net.au> wrote in message
news:Xns91205F579E0BEvi...@130.133.1.4...
> Whilst licking their paws in alt.ozdebate on 18 Sep 2001, Jadzia
> <che...@cherry-tree.net> purred:
>
> > On 17 Sep 2001 23:02:46 GMT, Vicki Cleaver
> ><vickiclea...@dingoblue.net.au> wrote:
> >
> >>With reference to this news report:
> >>
> >>http://au.dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/20010918/aapworld/1000762773-
> >>1812840506.html
> >>
> >>Okay, I'm all for the US getting justice for what has been done, but
> >>killing bin Laden outright is only going to make him a martyr at this
> >>point. I'm not sure what else can be done but look at the reaction to
> >>the Timothy McVeigh execution. To have the President come out and say
> >>that killing him is okay just doesn't sit well with me.
> >
> > Well if he is dead then there will be more pop up true - but if he is
> > left live and kicking then he will just organise more terror.
> >
> > There is no easy way out
>
> Yeh I know. That's what I meant by "I'm not sure what else can be done".
I
> strangely have no problem with the US bombing the territory harbouring bin
> Laden IF he is proved to be behind the attacks. But to just go there and
> kill him I do have a problem with. It's very strange and I cannot explain
> it.
It is strange, esp considering that had the US done that in 1993 when he
first bombed the WTC, chances are that his place in history would *not* have
been taken by someone else with not only the fanaticism but the income to
make this happen.
Assasination is a justifiable weapon of state in some circumstances.
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Vicki Cleaver
<p...@customized.com> purred:
But money doesn't seem to be an issue with these people. Considering the
amount of money the US had on his "head" (I've heard conflicting reports
from $US5 Million to $US10 Million) yet no one would give him up.
John Mares
Blood money is certainly not an issue. But his personal wealth & income,
enable *him* to bring to bear his ideas. He is supposed to be worth about
500,000,000 US$. And he is focused on being a shit rather than buying all
the toys I would if I was worth that much.
Barbara
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>
>
> It is strange, esp considering that had the US done that in 1993 when he
> first bombed the WTC, chances are that his place in history would *not*
have
> been taken by someone else with not only the fanaticism but the income to
> make this happen.
>
> Assasination is a justifiable weapon of state in some circumstances.
>
The anomaly of it all, is the fact, that Western culture balks at taking
lives ad hock, yet we are dealing with people who have no respect for human
life, their own or others, and have no problems with the concept of mass
killing.
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Vicki Cleaver
<p...@customized.com> purred:
>
> "Vicki Cleaver" <vickiclea...@dingoblue.net.au> wrote in message
> news:Xns912063877B372vi...@130.133.1.4...
>> Whilst licking their paws in alt.ozdebate on 18 Sep 2001, "John Mares"
>> <p...@customized.com> purred:
>>
>> >
>> > "Vicki Cleaver" <vickiclea...@dingoblue.net.au> wrote in
>> > message news:Xns91205F579E0BEvi...@130.133.1.4...
>> >> Whilst licking their paws in alt.ozdebate on 18 Sep 2001, Jadzia
>> >> <che...@cherry-tree.net> purred:
>> >>
>> >> > On 17 Sep 2001 23:02:46 GMT, Vicki Cleaver
>> >> ><vickiclea...@dingoblue.net.au> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>With reference to this news report:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>http://au.dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/20010918/aapworld/10007627
>> >> >>73- 1812840506.html
Okay, I knew he was rich, but I didn't realise he was *that* rich. No
wonder no one has taken up the offer from the US - he can buy them for more!
Jadzia
<vickiclea...@dingoblue.net.au> wrote:
>> Blood money is certainly not an issue. But his personal wealth &
>> income, enable *him* to bring to bear his ideas. He is supposed to be
>> worth about 500,000,000 US$. And he is focused on being a shit rather
>> than buying all the toys I would if I was worth that much.
>
>Okay, I knew he was rich, but I didn't realise he was *that* rich. No
>wonder no one has taken up the offer from the US - he can buy them for more!
Well he is reportedly is from a family of 20 children, when his father
died his inheritence was 3 billion!!! That's just his share!!!
Even John couldn't spend all that on toys!!
unless they were battery operated that is :oŞ
Sky Rider
<vickiclea...@dingoblue.net.au> write:
<snip>
>Yeh I know. That's what I meant by "I'm not sure what else can be done". I
>strangely have no problem with the US bombing the territory harbouring bin
>Laden IF he is proved to be behind the attacks. But to just go there and
>kill him I do have a problem with. It's very strange and I cannot explain
>it.
probably a sense of 'justice..... it's easy for us to imagine he
should have his day in court with the opportunity to defend himself
and his point of view....
.... but can you imagine the things he'd say if he had proper access
to the media... AND they were willing to report his words in full?
From the yanks perspective it would be far better that he die unheard.
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excuse my paranoia, but there is something VERY fishy going on
here.... I can't put my finger on it but it all looks very sus.
There is an economic downturn forecast in the states.... Bush
disappears from the White House for a month... the first Pres. ever to
do that.... I'm told his father has 'connections' with the arms
industry.... there is a 'ready made' terrorist organisation/leader
waiting to be a scapegoat..... there is a country to weak by far to
resist any attack by the yanks.... no real hard evidence has been
released connecting the terrorist leader or the country to the
attack....
... there is no doubt more.... but that will come out in the next few
weeks... but there seems to be a pattern emerging.
RMG
Not necessarily. He'd probably get someone to put a bullet in the head of
anyone who looked like turning him in.
Or do it himself
Vicki Cleaver
<the...@R.US> purred:
> The Taliman Militia acknowledged today that bin Laden was
> involved in the WTC/Pentagon attack.
Source?
Peter Lucas
> With reference to this news report:
>
> http://au.dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/20010918/aapworld/1000762773-
> 1812840506.html
>
> Okay, I'm all for the US getting justice for what has been done, but
killing
> bin Laden outright is only going to make him a martyr at this point. I'm
> not sure what else can be done but look at the reaction to the Timothy
> McVeigh execution. To have the President come out and say that killing
him
> is okay just doesn't sit well with me.
Trust me, you can't have a matyr if you don't have an organisation to
worship the matyr :-)
That's all that "OPSEC CMDR" will allow me to say ;-) (Until it hits the
newstands soon, that is :-)
Peter Lucas
> Whilst licking their paws in alt.ozdebate on 18 Sep 2001, Jadzia
> <che...@cherry-tree.net> purred:
>
> > On 17 Sep 2001 23:02:46 GMT, Vicki Cleaver
> ><vickiclea...@dingoblue.net.au> wrote:
> >
> >>With reference to this news report:
> >>
> >>http://au.dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/20010918/aapworld/1000762773-
> >>1812840506.html
> >>
> >>Okay, I'm all for the US getting justice for what has been done, but
> >>killing bin Laden outright is only going to make him a martyr at this
> >>point. I'm not sure what else can be done but look at the reaction to
> >>the Timothy McVeigh execution. To have the President come out and say
> >>that killing him is okay just doesn't sit well with me.
> >
> > Well if he is dead then there will be more pop up true - but if he is
> > left live and kicking then he will just organise more terror.
> >
> > There is no easy way out
>
> Yeh I know. That's what I meant by "I'm not sure what else can be done".
I
> strangely have no problem with the US bombing the territory harbouring bin
> Laden IF he is proved to be behind the attacks. But to just go there and
> kill him I do have a problem with. It's very strange and I cannot explain
> it.
So you're OK with mass killing via bombing shit out off the place, but
squirm at the thought of a nice, neat 'extraction'?
You're right, that is strange!! :-)
The only way the Coalition is going to get all the 'rats' is to send the rat
hunters into the holes. Other wise you can bomb the shit out of a place
until the cows come home, and not make a dent in the rat population.
Remember VietNam/Cambodia?
Peter Lucas
Just goes to show how fucked in the head the religious fanatics are!! (And
it's a confirmed $US10M.............. hmmmmmmmmmmm, how much for an airfare
to Afghanistan??)
Dyna Soar
"Love" <theM...@R.US> wrote in message news:3bb8f1d3...@moul.org.au...
....
>
> Taliban acknowledged today bin Laden was involved.
>
Oh yeah??
Your source, please...
Personally, I *think* he is responsible, too, but spreading incorrect
information as fact (i.e. lies) about it doesn't help.
CNN says ..
http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/asiapcf/central/09/19/ret.afghan.clerics/
posted September 19, 2001 5:34 AM EDT (0934 GMT) ie about a half an hour
ago...
"The hardline Taliban says bin Laden has been wrongly implicated in the
terrorist attacks against the United States.
They insist bin Laden's accusers must provide evidence before he will be
extradited."
Austalian ABC says...
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2001/09/item20010919030557_1.htm
posted Wed, Sep 19 2001 7:37 PM AEST which is 0937 GMT..
"Taliban leader Mullah Mohammad Omar says alleged terrorist Osama bin Laden
will not be extradited without evidence and US allegations against him are a
pretext to wage war on Islam.
The Afghan Islamic Press reports in a statement to a gathering of Islamic
scholars, or ulema, from around the country, Mr Omar said bin Laden could not
have carried out last week's terror attacks in the United States."
Peter Lucas
"MOUL" <MO...@R.US> wrote in message news:3bc6c907...@moul.org.au...
> On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:51:34 +1000, at alt.ozdebate, "Peter
> Lucas" <sky...@earthling.net> claimed:
> >> >>that killing him is okay just doesn't sit well with me.
> >> >
> >> > Well if he is dead then there will be more pop up true - but if he is
> >> > left live and kicking then he will just organise more terror.
> >> >
> >> > There is no easy way out
> >>
> >> Yeh I know. That's what I meant by "I'm not sure what else can be
done".
> >I
> >> strangely have no problem with the US bombing the territory harbouring
bin
> >> Laden IF he is proved to be behind the attacks. But to just go there
and
> >> kill him I do have a problem with. It's very strange and I cannot
explain
> >> it.
> >
> >So you're OK with mass killing via bombing shit out off the place, but
> >squirm at the thought of a nice, neat 'extraction'?
> >You're right, that is strange!! :-)
> >
> >The only way the Coalition is going to get all the 'rats' is to send the
rat
> >hunters into the holes. Other wise you can bomb the shit out of a place
> >until the cows come home, and not make a dent in the rat population.
> >Remember VietNam/Cambodia?
>
> defoliating toxic chemicals to try to get a look at troop
> movements.
And they never dropped any bombs, did they?
>In the desert they can be seen from satellites
> real time.
And this makes it all different, how? You think the US is going to fire off
a Tomahawk for a couple of ragheads they see scurrying across the desert?
>USA is not the old Soviet Union.
No they're not. The US will have more resolve, commitment and leadership to
do the task at hand.
Dyna Soar
"MOUL" <MOUL...@R.US> wrote in message news:3bc7c925...@moul.org.au...
> On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 18:11:07 +0800, at alt.ozdebate, "Dyna
> Soar" <Dyna_s...@yahoo.com.au> claimed:
>
> >
> >"Love" <theM...@R.US> wrote in message
news:3bb8f1d3...@moul.org.au...
> >....
> >>
> >> Taliban acknowledged today bin Laden was involved.
> >>
> >
> >Oh yeah??
> >Your source, please...
> >Personally, I *think* he is responsible, too, but spreading incorrect
> >information as fact (i.e. lies) about it doesn't help.
>
> And dyna, do not call me a liar again without benefit of
> evidence while you still use Microsoft Outlook Express.
>
> Source: CNN ticker news.... to the effect that the Taliban
> admitted to Pakistani envoys bin Laden's involvement.
So you say!! Convenient that there is no written record of it and *all* other
sources state that the Taliban have consistantly claimed that Bin Laden is
"wrongly implicated". Makes your claim untrue. Whether that makes you a liar
or not I'll leave for others to decide. I've made my mind up..
> >CNN says ..
> >http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/asiapcf/central/09/19/ret.afghan.clerics/
> >posted September 19, 2001 5:34 AM EDT (0934 GMT) ie about a half an hour
> >ago...
> >"The hardline Taliban says bin Laden has been wrongly implicated in the
> >terrorist attacks against the United States.
> >They insist bin Laden's accusers must provide evidence before he will be
> >extradited."
> >
> >Austalian ABC says...
> >http://www.abc.net.au/news/2001/09/item20010919030557_1.htm
> >posted Wed, Sep 19 2001 7:37 PM AEST which is 0937 GMT..
> >"Taliban leader Mullah Mohammad Omar says alleged terrorist Osama bin Laden
> >will not be extradited without evidence and US allegations against him are
a
> >pretext to wage war on Islam.
> >The Afghan Islamic Press reports in a statement to a gathering of Islamic
> >scholars, or ulema, from around the country, Mr Omar said bin Laden could
not
> >have carried out last week's terror attacks in the United States."
>
> The position of the "hardline Taliban" has been clear since
> the day of the bombing, when they started preparing their
> people for an invasion (how prescient of them) and calling
> for a holy war against the USA. It was clarified further
> when they threatened their neighbors if they assisted the
> USA in any way.
No argument with that. It's well documented unlike your other claim..
> I do hope their position is resolute. In the words of Osama
> Bin Ladin, I pray Allah grants the Taliban martyr status.
>
Peter Lucas
"MOUL" <MO...@R.US> wrote in message news:3bd74989...@moul.org.au...
> On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 03:15:40 +1000, at alt.ozdebate, "Peter
> Lucas" <sky...@earthling.net> claimed:
>
> >
> >"MOUL" <MO...@R.US> wrote in message news:3bc6c907...@moul.org.au...
> >> On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:51:34 +1000, at alt.ozdebate, "Peter
> >> Lucas" <sky...@earthling.net> claimed:
Vicki Cleaver said:
> >> >I
> >> >> strangely have no problem with the US bombing the territory
harbouring
> >bin
> >> >> Laden IF he is proved to be behind the attacks. But to just go
there
> >and
> >> >> kill him I do have a problem with. It's very strange and I cannot
> >explain
> >> >> it.
> >> >So you're OK with mass killing via bombing shit out off the place, but
> >> >squirm at the thought of a nice, neat 'extraction'?
> >> >You're right, that is strange!! :-)
> >> >
> >> >The only way the Coalition is going to get all the 'rats' is to send
the
> >rat
> >> >hunters into the holes. Other wise you can bomb the shit out of a
place
> >> >until the cows come home, and not make a dent in the rat population.
> >> >Remember VietNam/Cambodia?
> Reading comprehension counts. Note I was talking of "troop
> movements".
Reading comprehension *does* count, doesn't it? Take note that my post, the
one *you* were replying to, is about the mass bombing of the ragheads.
>Are "a couple of rageheads" troop movements?
Get back to my original post.
>
> And please refrain from racist jingoistic ravings like
> 'raghead.'
Why? Does it upset your delicate sensitivities? You can call people whatever
you like, but no-one else is allowed to, right?
Clancy
"Peter Lucas" <sky...@earthling.net> wrote in message>
> > And please refrain from racist jingoistic ravings like
> > 'raghead.'
>
> Why? Does it upset your delicate sensitivities? You can call people
whatever
> you like, but no-one else is allowed to, right?
>
>
Gooooood Moooooorning Mr Pot
It is an extremely offensive word, & extremely racist.
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Dyna Soar
"MOUL" <MO...@R.US> wrote in message news:3bd849db...@moul.org.au...
> On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 06:22:56 +0800, at alt.ozdebate, "Dyna
> Soar" <Dyna_s...@yahoo.com.au> claimed:
> No written record? I saw it again last night in CNN (ticker
> tape). Also that the Afghan Muslim council (not proper name)
> is advising Taliban to ask bin Ladin to leave the country.
>
> Now let me explain basic INFERENCE dearie (read carefully):
> You cannot prove something does *not* exist, only that it
> does exist.
*You* want to believe what you want to believe!!!!
You originally stated "Taliban acknowledged today bin Laden was involved.". I
still say they have never acknowledged that. Their Clerics some half a day
ago announced they wanted him to leave the country. They still say he was
"not involed". Their "requesting that he leave" may be read by some that he
is guilty as charged, BUT THEY HAVE NEVER SAID SO, and not a day and a half
earlier as you falsely claimed.
Admit that at best you've twisted the truth. Takes a good man to do that.
Are you a good man?
> Did you comprehend that? Therefore, what you may have failed
> to see in a cursory review of the news cannot possibly prove
> what I saw does not exist. You only speculate it does not.
Most "twisters of the truth" use this argument.....
For the record, I'm not defending either the Taliban or bin Laden. I think
they are as guilty as hell and deserve whatever punishment that is thrown at
them. This doesn't mean we put words in their mouths!
Jenny
overflo...@hotmail.com says...
I don't understand. Why is "Mr Pot" offensive and racist???
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Peter Lucas
"Jenny" <jenn...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.16152ef2e...@News.CIS.DFN.DE...
> In article <Teuq7.75018$bY5.3...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
> overflo...@hotmail.com says...
> >
> > "Peter Lucas" <sky...@earthling.net> wrote in message>
> >
> > > > And please refrain from racist jingoistic ravings like
> > > > 'raghead.'
> > >
> > > Why? Does it upset your delicate sensitivities? You can call people
> > whatever
> > > you like, but no-one else is allowed to, right?
> > >
> > >
> > Gooooood Moooooorning Mr Pot
> >
> > It is an extremely offensive word, & extremely racist.
>
> I don't understand. Why is "Mr Pot" offensive and racist???
No, Hysterical Nancy of the Overflowing sewer was just referring to my use
of the word 'Raghead'.
You have to understand JG, there are people on here much the same as Peter
Mackay (remember him?). They feel that as they are the self proclaimed "old
timers" of the ng, they can do and say whatever they want, but everyone else
has to tow the line and wait until they get their official clearance to
behave the way they do.
But Mr NNC Overflow(a very cheap store here)Nancy, is just getting all
hysterical because it's replying to me. He/she/it is a bit of a drama queen
in those cases :-)
Clancy
"Peter Lucas" <sky...@earthling.net>
> No, Hysterical Nancy of the Overflowing sewer was just referring to my use
> of the word 'Raghead'.
>
> You have to understand JG, there are people on here much the same as Peter
> Mackay (remember him?). They feel that as they are the self proclaimed
"old
> timers" of the ng, they can do and say whatever they want, but everyone
else
> has to tow the line and wait until they get their official clearance to
> behave the way they do.
> But Mr NNC Overflow(a very cheap store here)Nancy, is just getting all
> hysterical because it's replying to me. He/she/it is a bit of a drama
queen
> in those cases :-)
>
>
To quote your own previous post.
>Why? Does it upset your delicate sensitivities? You can call people
whatever
>you like, but no-one else is allowed to, right?
So in other words you can say the above, but it doesn't apply in reverse?
Here's a news flash:
UseNet wasn't put in place for you & you only to have a point of view.
You can call me anything you like, I have heard it all before, I make no
pretences to be anything other than what I am: Belligerent & intolerant,
heading the list, or so I am constantly told.
One thing I am not though, is a racist bigot, unlike yourself.
Plus I have never made the claim to be an "old timer" of this newsgroup.
Perhaps you could have familiarised yourself with the dynamics of this
group, before you started shooting of your rather large mouth.
BTW your over use of the words "drama queen" intrigues me. Something
Freudian there.
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imber
~imber
Peter Lucas
~imber
Lea B
"Clancy" <> wrote ...
> "Peter Lucas" <sky...@earthling.net>
<snip>
> Plus I have never made the claim to be an "old timer" of this newsgroup.
> Perhaps you could have familiarised yourself with the dynamics of this
> group, before you started shooting of your rather large mouth.
>
> BTW your over use of the words "drama queen" intrigues me. Something
> Freudian there.
Clancy's relatively 'new' .. he just blends in well.
And I too wonder about the 'queen' references....... don't tell me -
Peter's an old grunt and he's OK.
He types all night and he fights all day
he carries a gun
he wears high heels
suspenders and a bra
he wishes he was a girlie ...
just like his dear papa ;)
Lea B
"imber" <> wrote :
>
> **makes that cat attack noise** ( is not going to attempt to spell it
> either )
chhhaaaaaccchhhhhh ?!
- or -
hhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh ?!
Clancy
"Lea B" <le...@cybergal.com> wrote in message >
> Peter's an old grunt and he's OK.
> He types all night and he fights all day
>
> he carries a gun
> he wears high heels
> suspenders and a bra
> he wishes he was a girlie ...
> just like his dear papa ;)
>
*snort*
(no tissues needed thank you, will use my manly handkerchief.)
--
Clancy
Peter Lucas
>
> "Clancy" <> wrote ...
> > "Peter Lucas" <sky...@earthling.net>
>
> <snip>
>
> > Plus I have never made the claim to be an "old timer" of this newsgroup.
> > Perhaps you could have familiarised yourself with the dynamics of this
> > group, before you started shooting of your rather large mouth.
> >
> > BTW your over use of the words "drama queen" intrigues me. Something
> > Freudian there.
>
>
> Clancy's relatively 'new' .. he just blends in well.
What, with the wallpaper?
> And I too wonder about the 'queen' references....... don't tell me -
Don't often call many guys 'drama queens'..... unless they are being one.
Also call girls 'drama queens'............ quite a lot, because there seems
to be more 'drama queen' females than males :-)
> Peter's an old grunt and he's OK.
> He types all night and he fights all day
No truer words were spoken in jest ;-)
> he carries a gun
Bullshit!! You haven't seen it........ it's a shoulder holster. You can't
see it when I wear my jacket.
> he wears high heels
At 6'2", short-arse, I'm not the one that has to wear heels :-)
> suspenders and a bra
Suspenders do nothing for me............... but I *love* looking at all the
new bra's coming out :-)
> he wishes he was a girlie ...
Just for a day............. I'd earn a *fortune*!! (You girls don't realise
you're sitting on a gold mine!!)
> just like his dear papa ;)
He wasn't a dear papa, so I killed him.
Peter Lucas
Sounds like to much pizza and chardonnay again, deary :-)
imber
Peter Lucas
"MOUL" <MO...@R.US> wrote in message news:3be084f5...@moul.org.au...
> On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 07:57:53 +1000, at alt.ozdebate, "Peter
> Lucas" <sky...@earthling.net> claimed:
> >Why? Does it upset your delicate sensitivities?
>
>
> >You can call people whatever
> >you like, but no-one else is allowed to, right?
>
Oh, Ok.
Peter Lucas
has the same opinion I have.
This is going to be a long dirty war were the terrorist aren't the only ones
that have to be taken out. Their extended families have to be taken out as
well.
Peter Lucas
"MOUL" <M8...@R.US> wrote in message news:3bcbe6d8...@moul.org.au...
> On Sun, 23 Sep 2001 20:48:57 +1000, at alt.ozdebate, "Peter
> Lucas" <sky...@earthling.net> claimed:
>
If that is the case :-)
Peter Lucas
"MOUL" <MO...@R.US> wrote in message news:3bc77a50...@moul.org.au...
> On Sun, 23 Sep 2001 23:47:55 +1000, at alt.ozdebate, "Peter
> Lucas" <sky...@earthling.net> claimed:
> >> >Seems America's most highly decorated surviving soldier (Colonel
> >Hackworth)
> >> >has the same opinion I have.
> >> >This is going to be a long dirty war were the terrorist aren't the
only
> >ones
> >> >that have to be taken out. Their extended families have to be taken
out
> >as
> >> >well.
> >>
> >> What of sheep bearing their unborn children?
> >
> >If that is the case :-)
>
It's not the sheeps fault, but the offspring have to be taken.
(BTW, glad to see someone else who can't sleep :-)
imber
Peter Lucas
"MOUL" <MO...@R.US> wrote in message news:3bd74989...@moul.org.au...
> On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 03:15:40 +1000, at alt.ozdebate, "Peter
> Lucas" <sky...@earthling.net> claimed:
>
> >
> >"MOUL" <MO...@R.US> wrote in message news:3bc6c907...@moul.org.au...
> >> On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:51:34 +1000, at alt.ozdebate, "Peter
> >> Lucas" <sky...@earthling.net> claimed:
Vicki Cleaver said:
> >> >I
> >> >> strangely have no problem with the US bombing the territory
harbouring
> >bin
> >> >> Laden IF he is proved to be behind the attacks. But to just go
there
> >and
> >> >> kill him I do have a problem with. It's very strange and I cannot
> >explain
> >> >> it.
> >> >So you're OK with mass killing via bombing shit out off the place, but
> >> >squirm at the thought of a nice, neat 'extraction'?
> >> >You're right, that is strange!! :-)
> >> >
> >> >The only way the Coalition is going to get all the 'rats' is to send
the
> >rat
> >> >hunters into the holes. Other wise you can bomb the shit out of a
place
> >> >until the cows come home, and not make a dent in the rat population.
> >> >Remember VietNam/Cambodia?
> Reading comprehension counts. Note I was talking of "troop
> movements".
Reading comprehension *does* count, doesn't it? Take note that my post, the
one *you* were replying to, is about the mass bombing of the ragheads.
>Are "a couple of rageheads" troop movements?
Get back to my original post.
>
> And please refrain from racist jingoistic ravings like
> 'raghead.'
Why? Does it upset your delicate sensitivities? You can call people whatever
you like, but no-one else is allowed to, right?
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> overflo...@hotmail.com says...
> >
> > "Peter Lucas" <sky...@earthling.net> wrote in message>
> >
> > > > And please refrain from racist jingoistic ravings like
> > > > 'raghead.'
> > >
> > > Why? Does it upset your delicate sensitivities? You can call people
> > whatever
> > > you like, but no-one else is allowed to, right?
> > >
> > >
> > Gooooood Moooooorning Mr Pot
> >
> > It is an extremely offensive word, & extremely racist.
>
> I don't understand. Why is "Mr Pot" offensive and racist???
No, Hysterical Nancy of the Overflowing sewer was just referring to my use
of the word 'Raghead'.
You have to understand JG, there are people on here much the same as Peter
Mackay (remember him?). They feel that as they are the self proclaimed "old
timers" of the ng, they can do and say whatever they want, but everyone else
has to tow the line and wait until they get their official clearance to
behave the way they do.
But Mr NNC Overflow(a very cheap store here)Nancy, is just getting all
hysterical because it's replying to me. He/she/it is a bit of a drama queen
in those cases :-)
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~imber
Peter Lucas
Sounds like to much pizza and chardonnay again, deary :-)
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>
> "Clancy" <> wrote ...
> > "Peter Lucas" <sky...@earthling.net>
>
> <snip>
>
> > Plus I have never made the claim to be an "old timer" of this newsgroup.
> > Perhaps you could have familiarised yourself with the dynamics of this
> > group, before you started shooting of your rather large mouth.
> >
> > BTW your over use of the words "drama queen" intrigues me. Something
> > Freudian there.
>
>
> Clancy's relatively 'new' .. he just blends in well.
What, with the wallpaper?
> And I too wonder about the 'queen' references....... don't tell me -
Don't often call many guys 'drama queens'..... unless they are being one.
Also call girls 'drama queens'............ quite a lot, because there seems
to be more 'drama queen' females than males :-)
> Peter's an old grunt and he's OK.
> He types all night and he fights all day
No truer words were spoken in jest ;-)
> he carries a gun
Bullshit!! You haven't seen it........ it's a shoulder holster. You can't
see it when I wear my jacket.
> he wears high heels
At 6'2", short-arse, I'm not the one that has to wear heels :-)
> suspenders and a bra
Suspenders do nothing for me............... but I *love* looking at all the
new bra's coming out :-)
> he wishes he was a girlie ...
Just for a day............. I'd earn a *fortune*!! (You girls don't realise
you're sitting on a gold mine!!)
> just like his dear papa ;)
He wasn't a dear papa, so I killed him.
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"Peter Lucas" <sky...@earthling.net>
> No, Hysterical Nancy of the Overflowing sewer was just referring to my use
> of the word 'Raghead'.
>
> You have to understand JG, there are people on here much the same as Peter
> Mackay (remember him?). They feel that as they are the self proclaimed
"old
> timers" of the ng, they can do and say whatever they want, but everyone
else
> has to tow the line and wait until they get their official clearance to
> behave the way they do.
> But Mr NNC Overflow(a very cheap store here)Nancy, is just getting all
> hysterical because it's replying to me. He/she/it is a bit of a drama
queen
> in those cases :-)
>
>
To quote your own previous post.
>Why? Does it upset your delicate sensitivities? You can call people
whatever
>you like, but no-one else is allowed to, right?
So in other words you can say the above, but it doesn't apply in reverse?
Here's a news flash:
UseNet wasn't put in place for you & you only to have a point of view.
You can call me anything you like, I have heard it all before, I make no
pretences to be anything other than what I am: Belligerent & intolerant,
heading the list, or so I am constantly told.
One thing I am not though, is a racist bigot, unlike yourself.
Plus I have never made the claim to be an "old timer" of this newsgroup.
Perhaps you could have familiarised yourself with the dynamics of this
group, before you started shooting of your rather large mouth.
BTW your over use of the words "drama queen" intrigues me. Something
Freudian there.
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> either )
chhhaaaaaccchhhhhh ?!
- or -
hhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh ?!
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>
> > > And please refrain from racist jingoistic ravings like
> > > 'raghead.'
> >
> whatever
> > you like, but no-one else is allowed to, right?
> >
> >
>
> It is an extremely offensive word, & extremely racist.
I don't understand. Why is "Mr Pot" offensive and racist???
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> > And please refrain from racist jingoistic ravings like
> > 'raghead.'
>
> Why? Does it upset your delicate sensitivities? You can call people
whatever
> you like, but no-one else is allowed to, right?
>
>
Gooooood Moooooorning Mr Pot
It is an extremely offensive word, & extremely racist.
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> Peter's an old grunt and he's OK.
> He types all night and he fights all day
>
> he carries a gun
> he wears high heels
> suspenders and a bra
> he wishes he was a girlie ...
> just like his dear papa ;)
>
*snort*
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Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 18:27:42 GMT
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Peter Lucas
"MOUL" <MO...@1R.US> wrote in message news:3bc38b7c...@moul.org.au...
> On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 05:02:05 +1000, at alt.ozdebate, "Peter
> Lucas" <sky...@earthling.net> claimed:
> >> >> What of sheep bearing their unborn children?
> >> >
> >> >If that is the case :-)
> >>
> >> I'm not sure I can endorse vivisection.
> >
> >It's not the sheeps fault, but the offspring have to be taken.
>
> adopted by good Asstralian families... it isn't as if the
> gene pool hasn't had worse.
Or, we could just ship them straight over to NZ?
They've fucked everything else, why not somebody elses sheep?
Peter Lucas
"MOUL" <MO...@R.U4S> wrote in message news:3bc9f259...@moul.org.au...
> On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 09:13:45 +1000, at alt.ozdebate, "Peter
> Lucas" <sky...@earthling.net> claimed:
>
> >
> >"MOUL" <MO...@1R.US> wrote in message
news:3bc38b7c...@moul.org.au...
> >> On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 05:02:05 +1000, at alt.ozdebate, "Peter
> >> Lucas" <sky...@earthling.net> claimed:
> >> >> >> What of sheep bearing their unborn children?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >If that is the case :-)
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm not sure I can endorse vivisection.
> >> >
> >> >It's not the sheeps fault, but the offspring have to be taken.
> >>
> >> Granted, but perhaps they could be allowed to deliver then
> >> adopted by good Asstralian families... it isn't as if the
> >> gene pool hasn't had worse.
> >
> >Or, we could just ship them straight over to NZ?
> >They've fucked everything else, why not somebody elses sheep?
>
Chris?????