Scottish and Macedonian Bagpipes play the same tune
WolfWolf
Scottish and Macedonian Bagpipes play the same tune
At the British Embassy’s Queen’s birthday party celebration in Skopje on Tuesday
night, the internationally famous Macedonian musician, Dragan Dautovski, accompanied
Scottish Bagpiper, Jim Nichol, from Edinburgh in playing a Macedonian musical melody
on Scottish and Macedonian bagpipes.
British Ambassador George Edgar said “This may have been be the first time that a
Macedonian Piper and a Scottish Bagpiper have played the same music together. It was a
great sound and a wonderful sight to see the dress uniform of a Scottish Piper and the
traditional dress of a Macedonian Piper, as the two Pipers played Macedonian music
together at Skopje’s Museum of Modern Art”.
The celebration held each year in honour of the British Queen Elizabeth II’s official
birthday took place this year at the Museum of Modern Art. The British Embassy was
also celebrating the fiftieth anniversary of the Queen’s coronation and for the
occasion flew out Scottish Bagpiper Jim Nichol to provide some stirring music as
invited guests arrived.
As Macedonia is one of several countries with a history of bagpipe playing, the
Embassy asked Dragan Dautovski whether he could accompany Jim Nichol playing the
pipes. Dragan welcomed this unusual challenge. The two Pipers explained that Scottish
and Macedonian pipe music is not immediately compatible as Scottish pipe music is more
regimented, intended to stir confidence in troops about to go into battle, whereas
Macedonian pipe music is more free-flowing and lyrical. Nevertheless, the two Pipers,
after each played some national musical numbers, combined well in playing a Macedonian
melody to the immense enjoyment of the assembled audience of party-goers.
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The Scots will make haggis out of you Dogdog associating them
with lying that Fyrom is anything Macedonian!
from: Spirit of Truth
(using June's e-mail to communicate to you)!
Dorian West
and they respect it very much.
BTW, thanks for the link. It provided me with some Mongol heads and allowed
me to see how truly dwarfish they are compared to the "short" Scots.
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
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> The Scots know very well about Macedonia
Sure they do, and certainly much more than a WANNA-BE GREEK like you.
How come that bagpipe playing attracts you so much, Dorian Istok?
Is it your wish of having a stick in your hands?!?
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Funny that you don't call them "English", troll, like you're confused with Greeks and
Macedonians.
With amusement
WolfWolf
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I think you ought not tell me what Scots think and know Mongole, NOT AT ALL!
Get my drift????
Dorian West
most despised and pathetic troll on Usenet. If I could just look at your
face, I'm 100% convinced it is a pure Turk a la Midnight Express head -
nasty and brutal. See you Mongols and Slavs can't face reality because in
many languages, English included, Slav and Turks are terms of derision. Now,
BOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Go away faggot!
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> Who are you calling troll
Those who are, nitwit, which includes you.
"Troll!!!"
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> > "Dorian West" <west...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> > > The Scots know very well about Macedonia
> >
> > Sure they do, and certainly much more than a WANNA-BE GREEK like you.
> > How come that bagpipe playing attracts you so much, Dorian Istok?
> > Is it your wish of having a stick in your hands?!?
> >
>
> I think
Since when?
WolfWolf
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Dorian West
for the Turks and Slavs to fear tiny Greece, yet that tiny country is a
vast, blood soaked graveyard for your vile races of Asiatics and wannabe
Europeans.
1. Why did the Yugoslavs rename their province Vardaska, adjoining the Greek
province of Macedonia, to Makedonija (Macedonia in English) on 2nd August
1944? In addition, why did they consider it necessary to kill almost 200,000
Greeks in their failed 1944-49 effort of conquering Greece and especially
the beloved Greek province of Macedonia - the Heart of Greece?
2. Why did the written language of these Yugoslav-Makedonijans first appear
after 2 August 1944?
3. The Macedonians conquered lands in 3 continents as Rome and England (5)
did. The Greek language was used in ALL inscriptions and writings in the
areas controlled by Macedonia, just like Latin and English was used in the
lands conquered by the Romans and English. Why would non-Greeks solely use
Greek and why has there not been even ONE Greek writing with the typical
Slavic endings of "ov" and "ski"? Why is EVERYTHING in Greek? What kind of
conquerors spread a so-called enemy language and culture?
4. Why is it that ancient and modern Macedonian names like Alexandros,
Philippos, Krateros, Ptolemaios, Kleopatra, Cassander, Thessaloniki,
Antipater and Macedonia are Greek?
5. Why is it that after 700 years of the ancient Macedonian state's
existence, tens of thousands of writers from every class wrote only in
Greek?
6. Why did the leader of Yugoslavia Josif Broz Tito, a communist-atheist,
give the newly created province of Makedonija a new Church? What kind of
people accepts a newly created church from an avowed and rabid atheist?
7. Why did the heretical church mentioned above, change the text of the Old
Testament prophet Daniel's prophesy to read the "Macedonian king" rather
than "the Greek king"? Daniel prophesied the rise and death of the Greek
king, Alexander the Great, and stated that his kingdom would be divided into
4 parts among his 4 generals (Dan. 8th Chapter). One of these 4 generals
headed the Syrian Kingdom and would desecrate the temple. "Yea, he magnified
himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was
taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down (Dan. 8:11)."
8. Why do a large majority of Yugoslav-Makedonijans not speak the official
language at home, but speak Bulgarian instead? Why do Bulgarians and
Yugoslav-Makedonijans fully understand each other? No interpreter needed!
9. Why is that NOT ONE Yugoslav-Makedonijan knows any Macedonian history,
the kind taught in schools in universities all over the world, including
such esteemed institutions as Oxford, Cambridge, Princeton, UCLA, London,
Rome, Paris, Heidelberg, Vienna, Edinburgh and Dublin et al?
10. Why can all Greek speakers read all ancient Macedonian coins,
inscriptions and writings and no Yugoslav-Makedonijan can do so, unless he
is learned in Greek, of course?
11. Why can't the Yugoslav-Makedonijans pronounce the name of the capitol
city of Macedonia, Thessaloniki? Why can't they even pronounce the sound
"th" which is prevalent in all Macedonian writings from antiquity to the
present?
12. If the Yugoslav-Makedonijans are the glorious Macedonians from antiquity
to the present, as they claim, why are they poorer than African nations like
Botswana?
13. If the Yugoslav-Makedonijans are the glorious Macedonians from antiquity
to the present, as they claim, why do Albanians armed with not much more
than pitchforks and hoes control the western part of the country? (The
Macedonian-Greeks, i.e. the real ones, have proven their valour in 1940-49
and beyond. It took 43 days for German, Austrian, Italian and Bulgarian
forces to subdue Greece when others like France fell in 14 days.).
14. In 1941 when Hitler's army entered the capital of Vardaska (later to be
renamed to Makedonija), Skopje, there were thousands of Bulgarian flags
there to greet them and the German army was welcome as liberators. King
Boris of Bulgaria was received in 1942 in Skopje as a liberator. Please
explain this?
15. Thessaloniki was NEVER conquered by Bulgaria or Slavs. It remained
Macedonian throughout its history. The Macedonians never disappeared. When
will they be recognised us as the true Macedonians and given their basic
human rights of an identity and a culture which they forged in blood and
sweat?
16. Why did the greatest Yugoslav-Makedonijan national hero, Samuel, title
himself as"Tsar of Bulgars" if he wasn't a Bulgarian?
17. If the Yugoslav-Makedonijans are the one and only, true Macedonians, why
is their nation recognised under the temporary name of the Former Yugoslav
Republic of Makedonija (FYROM)?
18. Why do the Yugoslav-Makedonijans terrorise the indigenous Albanians, who
are near enough to the majority in FYROM, as well as all their minorities
like indigenous Greeks, Vlach and Gypsies?
19. Unless the Yugoslav-Makedonijans can find any international organisation
that can claim ex-communist FYROM respects human rights more than the
Hellenic Republic (Greece), why don't they shut up and cease with their
extremely provocative and insulting propaganda?
20. If the Yugoslav-Makedonijans are Slavs, why do they look like
Mongol-Turks?
FURTHER NOTES:
FYROM's President Gligorov at a interview reported by the Foreign
Information Service, Daily Report, Eastern Europe: "We are Slavs, who came
to this region in the 6th century. We are not descendants of the ancient
Macedonians."
FYROM's Ambassador in Washington, Mrs. Ljubica Acevshka, in her speech on
the present situation in the Balkans: "We do not claim to be descendants of
Alexander the Great. We are Slavs and we speak a Slav language. Greece is
FYROM's second largest trading partner, and its number one investor".
In an interview with the Ottawa Citizen, Gyordan Veselinov, FYROM's
Ambassador to Canada: "We are not related to the northern Greeks who
produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are Slav people and
our language is closely related to Bulgarian." He also commented "there is
some confusion about the identity of the people of this country".
The testimony of the American Henry Morgenthau is also of great
significance. Serving in Greece between 1925 and 1926 as President of the
Committee on Refugees for the Community of Nations, he wrote -in his book "I
was Sent to Athens" and "When the Turks and the Bulgarians left, Macedonia
remained a purely Greek region" Then, as now, on the northern borders of
Macedonia there were inhabitants speaking a local Slavic dialect alongside
the Greek language. These people were, and still are, Greeks.
Testimony of perhaps the greatest Macedonian and indeed Greek, Alexander the
Great, King of Macedonia and Captain-General of all Greece.
"Your ancestors came to Macedonia and the rest of Hellas and did us great
harm, though we had done them no prior injury. I have been appointed leader
of the Greeks, and wanting to punish the Persians I have come to Asia, which
I took from you."
Arrianos II (Anabasis) 14, 4
Historian, 95-175AD
"There are Greek troops, to be sure, in Persian service, but how different
is their cause from ours?! They will be fighting for pay and not much of it
at that; we on the contrary shall fight for Greece, and our hearts will be
in it."
Arrian.
The Campaigns of Alexander.
Alexander talking to the troops before the battle.
Book 2-7
Penguin Classics.
Page 112.
Translation by Aubrey De Seliucourt.
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FURTHER NOTES:
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Ilinden
most important thing is to have human rights in the world. Since Greece
is a member in the European Union the Macedonians in Aegean Macedonia
(Greece) are not recognized as a Macedonians and they don't have any
human rights. Why not have the towns and villages in both languages in
Macedonian and Greek. Why not have Macedonian schools, Macedonian
newspapers, Macedonian radio and so on and so forth.
Greece should restore original first and last names of the Macedonian
people. The toponyms can be in both languages, Macedonian and Greek.
Example original Macedonian name Krsto Nedelkov, Greek name-Stavros
Nedelkopulos.
Why does the E.U. not give Greece some pressure. We need human rights,
not new borders in Aegean Macedonia (Greece).
Ilinden the Macedonian
Ilinden
2) What year in Greece did they change the name from Macedonia to New
territory?
3) What year in Greece did they change the name from New territory to
Northern Greece?
4) What year in Greece did they change the name from Northern Greece to
Macedonia?
5) What year in Greece did they change all the Macedonian toponym's into
Greek?
6) What year did the Greki change the first and last names of the
Macedonian people into Greek? Example from Tode Trajkov to Theodoros
Trajanopulos, Dulba Petkovska to Olymbiakos Petropulos.
7) What year did the Greki suppressed the Macedonian language?
8) What year the primer ABECEDAR in Athens was printed? For use by
Macedonian school children in the Aegean Macedonia?
9) What year were the Macedonian inscriptions destroyed or overwritten
from churches, tombstones, and icons.Church services in the Macedonian
language are outlawed.
10) What year was the Law 23666 banning the use of the Macedonian
language and striving to erase every trace of the Macedonian identity?
Macedonians fined, beaten, jailed for speaking Macedonian. Adults and
school children further humiliated by being forced to drink castor oil
when caught speaking Macedonian.
11) What year was the Law L-2 citizens suspected of opposing Greek
government in civil War stripped of their citizenship, including
relatives, arbitrarily and without due process.
12) What year Law M properties confiscated from citizens who fought
against government and those accused of assisting.
13) What year was the Law 3958 that allows confiscation of property of
those who left Greece and did not return within five years.
14) What was the year when several villages in Aegean Macedonia forced
to swear "LANGUAGE OATHS" to speak only Greek and renounce their mother
tongue ( MACEDONIAN)
15) What year did the Council of Europe declare Greece "undemocratic,
illiberal, authoritarian, and oppressive"? Greece was forced to resign
from Council of Europe under threat of expulsion.
16) What year the international writers' organization, PEN, condemns
Greece's denial of existence of Macedonians and their language.
17) What year extremists in Australia's Greek Community burn two
Macedonian churches, after Australian recognition of Macedonia?
Ilinden the Macedonian
WolfWolf
signs written both in Greek and in English, but not in Macedonian. Is English an
official language in Greece?
All the streets in Brussels are labelled both in French and in Dutch.
Why cannot Macedonian toponyms appear? They are known and used by the people.
WolfWolf
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Ilinden
Macedonian names and toponyms on the passports.
The original Macedonian toponyms are still used orally in Aegean
Macedonia. They are used as well in official documents, on maps of public unions,
in organizations such as topographical services and on the military maps which belong to
the Greek
Ministry of Defense. But the native Macedonians are not allowed to use these names.
Probably because this shows that indeed there was and still is a Macedonia and Macedonians
within the Greek borders. Why Macedonians, because obviously the Greki will not know these
original names! And so they pretend that they don't exist.
Ilinden the Macedonian
WolfWolf
document?
It is not you, and of course not Greece. The legal owner is the Government of Canada.
You are the holder.
The authorities of the countries which you are visiting can only put stamps, remarks,
visa etc. on the "visa" pages, nowhere else.
They cannot object or modify the personal data of the holder, which moreover are under
a plastic seal. Otherwise they would infringe Canadian law (and their own law, I
suppose).
I remember a comparative example. Years ago I visited Poland, I was in Wroclaw which
was German before the war and had the name Breslau.
There was a German in my hotel who was born there. In his passport the birthtown was
written "Breslau".
Do you think that the Polish authorities objected, refused his entry and called him
"irredentist"?!?
OTOH - a young Polish who is born there carries a passport with "Wroclaw" as place of
birth.
Again, German authorities don't object, even if they continue calling the city under
the German name.
Nobody in Europe develops such a hypocricy about names as we can see it from your
opponents.
Such attitude is out of place and out of time. It belongs to Jurassic Park, not here.
We are living in a time where borders are disappearing, where supra-national entities
are emerging, where the "nation" concept becomes blurred and where the individual
rights are becoming universal.
Those who are resisting it must learn it the hard way.
WolfWolf
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Ilinden
WolfWolf , I agree with you, but we have doorknobs in the FTCOG like Rechkov thick heads.
On my Canadian passport is my original Macedonian name, so the uncivilized Greki including
the Grkoman Rechkov they lost the game. It is so nice to have my original Macedonian last
name on my passport, also I have a Macedonian passport, on the top it says Republic of
Macedonia. My neighbor is Macedonian, he came to Canada in 1910, on his passport (actually
just a piece of paper) it is written Tode Petrov from Rula, Lerin Macedonia, Turkey.
Ilinden the Macedonian
WolfWolf
passport appears "Istanbul" instead of "Constantinople".
According to R., this would make him an "irredentist" and "enemy of the state".
I am really wondering in which state he's living ...
WolfWolf
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Ilinden
WolfWolf , no comment from the Grkoman or nitwit Rechkov.
Ilinden
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wooooooooow who told you these lies???
Us modern Macedonians look as Mongol Turks?????hahah .Maybe you should check the greeks color ,mine is still white,but their is a bit darkish :)))
Macedonian language started in IX century made by a man now a saint st.Kliment,he transformed the glagolitic language made by st.Cyril.
Well this you should have known,even Russia agrees that all slavic language have roots from Macedonia.
Wooow man are you that stupid???
and we macedonians renamed our land as Vardarska?????what is that about?
Macedonia was devided by Serbia Bulgaria and Greece.Serbia took our part and wanted to assimilate us as serbs,but that never happend :)
The big powers in Europe then helped to devide Macedonia,they renamed the three regions as Vardarska, Pirin and Agean.
At the end we managed to save our land ,and its name is Republic of Macedonia.
Even in ancient times Macedonia was a sort of a federation when Alexander was in charge.Macedonians,Ilirians and thracians and greeks were in it .
You should check you sources of information,never beleive the winer in a war of what he says,always trust the ones that lost,because after that war comes another to assimilate the population,that what happend here.