three ({ www.jorgecalvet.net
h.h.va...@kpn.com (Henno)
Dude, I may have been very critical in the past, but I sure appreciate
everything they have released in mp3 form that has been in previous
Ahdio shows. Hence the Ahdio show is a "BONUS", so if you get a sample
or snippet, fine. But then again, the Ahdio show quality doesn't match
up to the "High Quality" version, nor does using one of "dozens of
programs that allow you to convert .mov files to mp3 files" is certainly
not going to equate to a decent version, you're looking at 128kbps at
best.
Secondly, you're in The Netherlands correct? Hmmm, did you fly over for
one of the few Hit N Run shows that actually sold the CD Singles? I bet
many people didn't, and not to mention, there are many in the US that
don't even have them, so unless you want to shop eBay! you're not going
to OWN one of those CD's. So I'd say it's pretty nice of them to include
songs that not everyone was able to buy, even though it would be much
nicer to put them up for sale in the retail section for Premium Members.
Thirdly, base membership is 3 songs, 1 bonus track & an Ahdio show.
That's it.
We got:
Ahdio show
4 regular MP3's (1 more than they have to give)
1 Bonus MP3
2 Video Files (they didn't have to give us)
1 Bonus Video
So in total we got 1 more MP3 than they had to give us, and 3 Video's
they didn't have to give us.
And your bitching again why???
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"Henno" <h.h.va...@kpn.com> wrote in message
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: Hello,
>Whaaaaaa, whaaaaaaa, whaaaaaaaa
lol
Hello it's me
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>But then again, the Ahdio show quality doesn't match
>up to the "High Quality" version, nor does using one of "dozens of
>programs that allow you to convert .mov files to mp3 files" is certainly
>not going to equate to a decent version, you're looking at 128kbps at
>best.
exactly!mp3`s of the mov files are one of the best things they`ve started
doing.they should(but they won`t)go back and mp3 the previous months live mov
files.
Rudedog
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High
Thanks 4 the feedback.
Don't worry, r choices 4 music will no longer b an issue after January.
PEACE
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b...@jorgecalvet.net (jorge) wrote in message news:<6b50cbfb.01121...@posting.google.com>...
>But then again, the Ahdio show quality doesn't match
>up to the "High Quality" version, nor does using one of "dozens of
>programs that allow you to convert .mov files to mp3 files" is certainly
>not going to equate to a decent version, you're looking at 128kbps at
>best.
As if the NPGMC MP3s are that good -- even @ 256 most of them are
average at best. Bad codec, bad source, crap sound.
>Thirdly, base membership is 3 songs, 1 bonus track & an Ahdio show.
>That's it.
>
>We got:
>Ahdio show
56 minutes instead of 1 hour
>4 regular MP3's (1 more than they have to give)
That 1 is the soundtrack to one of the MOV files. Which is a nice
service, but shouldn't count. IMHO the MOV and MP3 are ONE package,
not two seperate files.
>1 Bonus MP3
See above.
>2 Video Files (they didn't have to give us)
Uhm, yes they do: "accompanied by corresponding music videos"
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songs
each month accompanied by corresponding music videos and a free
one-hour
radio show hosted by NPG members including Prince featuring music,
commentary and original skits. Basic Monthly Members will also receive
unique multimedia experiences such as "Make Your Own Mix" where they
can
create their own mixes using NPG music. Basic monthly membership is
$7.77
per month.
Premium Annual Membership entitles members to: preferred seating at
ALL
Prince concerts as well as VIP passes to ALL after shows/parties. They
will
receive a special edition of Prince's Rave In2 the Joy Fantastic, an
album
featuring 14 remixed tracks from his Arista Records album Rave Un2 the
Joy
Fantastic. This will be mailed to the members free of charge. Premium
Annual
Members will receive more original NPG music and videos than Basic
Monthly
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stubborn things." Regan repeated the mistake several times.
Come on Bart, you're griping about FOUR minutes here man :)
> That 1 is the soundtrack to one of the MOV files. Which is a nice
> service, but shouldn't count. IMHO the MOV and MP3 are ONE package,
> not two seperate files.
One package?? They are two SEPERATE files man. We can be THAT nitpicky man.
The past two months we've gotten a BUNCH of stuff. I only wish the whole
year was as good as the last two months and the videos have improved MUCH in
quality. As for the mp3s...they sound DAMN good in my car and on my stereo,
they are far from sounding like crap. Believe me, earlier this year thats
all we got from the NPGMC.
Rudedog
> They sended me a reply (No more NPGMC next year):
>
> High
>
> Thanks 4 the feedback.
> Don't worry, r choices 4 music will no longer b an issue after January.
That sure as hell looks like it.
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> "Bart Van Hemelen" <tenthousa...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:18a32uk9t3odd5h8h...@4ax.com...
> > 56 minutes instead of 1 hour
>
> Come on Bart, you're griping about FOUR minutes here man :)
Try to hold your breath that long :-)
> > That 1 is the soundtrack to one of the MOV files. Which is a nice
> > service, but shouldn't count. IMHO the MOV and MP3 are ONE package,
> > not two seperate files.
>
> One package?? They are two SEPERATE files man. We can be THAT nitpicky man.
> The past two months we've gotten a BUNCH of stuff. I only wish the whole
> year was as good as the last two months and the videos have improved MUCH in
> quality. As for the mp3s...they sound DAMN good in my car and on my stereo,
> they are far from sounding like crap. Believe me, earlier this year thats
> all we got from the NPGMC.
>
> Rudedog
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>
> h.h.va...@kpn.com (Henno)
>
>>They sended me a reply (No more NPGMC next year):
>>
>>High
>>
>>Thanks 4 the feedback.
>>Don't worry, r choices 4 music will no longer b an issue after January.
>>
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: ok i missed this, what do folks think this really means?
:
or it's just grandstanding to the tune of "our shit will be SO tight,
ppl won't complain anymore" LOL
Oh that's right, Prince is a thief as well. TOO many stories abound of
people not getting magazines, or even the Rave In2 CD.
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When they sold back months to new members it was just basic files
supposedly, and now if you choose the option you can get everything, but
they no longer offer the option of purchasing previous months, basic or
otherwise.
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: Didn't they just offer for people to renew their memberships early to
: >
:
:
No Ernie, it's a "retroactive" thing-if you signed up after the first month,
you can retroactively obtain previous months instead of waiting for future
months, hence ending your membership in january.
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"leeharrisonline.com" <juven...@aol.comma> wrote in message
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>> 56 minutes instead of 1 hour
>
>Come on Bart, you're griping about FOUR minutes here man :)
Do me a favor: make a list of all Ahdio shows. Count the minutes
missing from each. Add them up.
>> That 1 is the soundtrack to one of the MOV files. Which is a nice
>> service, but shouldn't count. IMHO the MOV and MP3 are ONE package,
>> not two seperate files.
>
>One package?? They are two SEPERATE files man.
With the same content.
>As for the mp3s...they sound DAMN good in my car and on my stereo,
>they are far from sounding like crap.
One of these days I'm gonna design a comparison test where I'll take
the "high" versions of the NPGMC MP3s of tracks that were on those
singles sold earlier this year at concerts, I'll also take the 320 k
MP3s made by a fan, and I'll make MP3s of those songs myself with the
original CDs as the source. I'll also make wavs of the original
sources (logical, because I'll use these wavs to make my MP3s).
Then I'll decompress the MP3s into wavs (with the latest version of
WinAmp, unless someone has a better piece of software to do this).
Then I'll cut out a couple of short clips from each of these wavs with
CDWave (of course, the same clips from each wav). I'll compile them
into one wav per "version" (NPGMC MP3/fan MP3/my MP3/wav) and post
these on a website or put them on abmp.
Then I'll ask you all to compare these clips by listening to them.
Don't cheat by comparing these wavs in pro audio software, just
*listen* to them, and order them by what you percieve to be the best
sound quality. Post your opinions here or even better, I'll log them
on a webpage. Each result will be public, so people wil be able to see
that there are no bogus results there.
I'll add them up, and publish the ranking.
Anyone wanna bet that the NPGMCs will be last?
My point? The NPGMCs MP3s are okay at best, but often (ahdio shows,
TRC,...) they're not even. Why? Because the people behind NPGMC are
cheap and incompetent.
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: On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 01:47:10 -0800, "Rudedog"
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I know mostly all of them were not completely 60 minutes, but come
on...don't you think thats a little picky??
> With the same content.
Not exactly, I can't see anything on the mp3 can I?
> Then I'll ask you all to compare these clips by listening to them.
> Don't cheat by comparing these wavs in pro audio software, just
> *listen* to them, and order them by what you percieve to be the best
> sound quality. Post your opinions here or even better, I'll log them
> on a webpage. Each result will be public, so people wil be able to see
> that there are no bogus results there.
>
> I'll add them up, and publish the ranking.
Go for it. I mean, I'll agree that TRC in 128 SUCKED on my car stereo, when
I got the CD version it made all the difference, but any mp3 that is 192kbps
or above is pretty damn good to me.
> My point? The NPGMCs MP3s are okay at best, but often (ahdio shows,
> TRC,...) they're not even. Why? Because the people behind NPGMC are
> cheap and incompetent.
Very true Bart, but hey I have to say the NPGMC has improved over this year.
Took long enough yes, but the vids look so much better and they SUCKED MUCHO
ASSHOLIO just a few months ago, right Bart?? Same with the mp3s, they were
128 when this shit started, INTOLERABLE!! Also, we were barely getting the
bare minimum if minimum at all, seeing like 3-4 files at the most for a
month sometimes. Now I see like 5-7 files up. Not bad, I mean of course it
all could be better, but I rate the NPGMC so far a steady "B" for
improvement.
Rudedog
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"Bart Van Hemelen" <tenthousa...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>Very true Bart, but hey I have to say the NPGMC has improved over this
year.
>Took long enough yes, but the vids look so much better and they SUCKED
MUCHO
>ASSHOLIO just a few months ago, right Bart?? Same with the mp3s, they were
>128 when this shit started, INTOLERABLE!! Also, we were barely getting the
>bare minimum if minimum at all, seeing like 3-4 files at the most for a
>month sometimes. Now I see like 5-7 files up. Not bad, I mean of course it
>all could be better, but I rate the NPGMC so far a steady "B" for
>improvement.
>
>Rudedog
>
>
I agree with rudedog's rating. They have improved some things over time,
especially the video quality.
>> My point? The NPGMCs MP3s are okay at best, but often (ahdio shows,
>> TRC,...) they're not even. Why? Because the people behind NPGMC are
>> cheap and incompetent.
>
>Very true Bart, but hey I have to say the NPGMC has improved over this year.
Yes, it's not as crappy as it was. But then again, it's still not up
to the standards that it should have started out with, and plenty of
times there's enough to complain about (last month's audio is still in
crappy quality, files that change without NPGMC bothering to tell
anyone, etc).
>Took long enough yes, but the vids look so much better and they SUCKED MUCHO
>ASSHOLIO just a few months ago, right Bart??
But still aren't VCD MPEGs.
>Also, we were barely getting the
>bare minimum if minimum at all, seeing like 3-4 files at the most for a
>month sometimes. Now I see like 5-7 files up.
Smoke and mirrors. It's still the bare minimum.
I thought you were happy with Quicktime? When everyone was calling QT crap,
you were like the only one defending it as software that was capable of
having great quality. I didn't believe you, till I saw Joey Coco's upload of
that Moulin Rouge song with them hookers, that looked GOOD!! Still, the new
Prince QT files look damn good.
> Smoke and mirrors. It's still the bare minimum.
LOL! I guess its how you look at it. Some ppl are pretty happy with the new
format cause it seems like we are getting more files, but I gotta give it up
to you Bart....you see things with a whole different perspective :)
Rudedog
>> But still aren't VCD MPEGs.
>
>I thought you were happy with Quicktime? When everyone was calling QT crap,
>you were like the only one defending it as software that was capable of
>having great quality.
And it is. But it's not the right format for this *commercial*
enterprise. But then again, I don't like the idea of downloads in the
first place, NPGMC should provide us with hardware, i.e. CDs. The
downloads should be incentives, tasters for the real thing.
Instead of arsing about for months and whining that members should
bring on more members, NPGMC should have thought abut the reasons why
so many people don't feel it is worthwhile enough to join.
>> Smoke and mirrors. It's still the bare minimum.
>
>LOL! I guess its how you look at it.
No, it's just applying the rules and promises NPGMC had from the
start. From an earlier post I made:
Now, how many times can you say that they have fulfilled this promise:
"a minimum of 3 new NPG songs each month accompanied by corresponding
music videos"?
>Smoke and mirrors. It's still the bare minimum.
And bare minimum is all they have to do to comply with the agreement
thay made with their members. I salute them for often giving us more.
-dennis-
Well, definitely not when the NPGMC started or even mid-year, but the last
two months have been plentiful. But again, its how you look at it.
Rudedog
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"Rudedog" <rudedog[NOSP@M}evilpeople.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 01:47:10 -0800, "Rudedog"
> <rudedog[NOSP@M}evilpeople.com> told alt.music.prince the following on
> the subject "Re: Not being happy with this months NPGMC release, I
> sended the NPGMC this email:":
>
> >> 56 minutes instead of 1 hour
> >
> >Come on Bart, you're griping about FOUR minutes here man :)
>
> Do me a favor: make a list of all Ahdio shows. Count the minutes
> missing from each. Add them up.
Well, they've changed to rules to compensate for that:
"The NPG Ahdio Shows r around an hour-long Mp3 files that r encoded at 128
kps and average about 45 Megs each."
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>>Smoke and mirrors. It's still the bare minimum.
>
>And bare minimum is all they have to do to comply with the agreement
>thay made with their members. I salute them for often giving us more.
A list, please. Then list when they DIDN'T fulfill the basic promises.