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friend2001

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Oct 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/20/98
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Apparently he owes them some royalties. Methinks he should put out the
live album now to raise some cash.

Shane

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Realize that U are somebody, Come on, y'all, and join the party O(+>
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BrentLyles

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Oct 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/20/98
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>Apparently he owes them some royalties.

Tony M. is suing?? HAHAHAHA!!!! He should be thankful for the meal ticket he
got!

Twelvtoes

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Oct 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/20/98
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Yeah, directly from the horses mouth I hear that royalties he's specifically
owed for is the work he did am Carmen Electra's album. : )


"With friends like these who needs enemas?"
--twelvetoes

TheRebel06

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Oct 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/20/98
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>Yeah, directly from the horses mouth I hear that royalties he's specifically
>owed for is the work he did am Carmen Electra's album. : )

Well, I got about .75 in my pocket. If we can raise another 5 bucks, that
should cover his royalties. :)

Ba...@webtv.net

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Oct 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/20/98
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P should sue Tony M for "Jughead" !

"Yeah, this is 4 the hood
Better keep it greazy
Better yet on a smooth tip
I don't wanna sweat
I want my slimmie 2 to get wit this"

I like hearing P sing about his dick, but I don't give a damn about Tony
M's dick !??!


Ted Daniel

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Oct 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/20/98
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I missed this thread - wha' happened?

Twelvtoes wrote:

> >>Apparently he owes them some royalties.
> >
> >Tony M. is suing?? HAHAHAHA!!!! He should be thankful for the meal ticket
> >he
> >got!
> >
>

> Yeah, directly from the horses mouth I hear that royalties he's specifically
> owed for is the work he did am Carmen Electra's album. : )
>

Dakota4849

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Oct 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/20/98
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Why has it taken so long? They haven't worked with The Artist in years.

WndrBoy17

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Oct 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/20/98
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>Why has it taken so long? They haven't worked with The Artist in years.

Probably because O(+> has been bragging about all this money he's making and of
course it's pissing people off, so Levi and Tony are wanting 2 get their fair
share. I wouldn't be surprised if Carmen steps into the picture too stating
that she didn't get her dues (like her credits on Good Judy Girlfriend and All
That) as if anyone thinks that she even contributed.

This is getting interesting!! Wonder if L4OA will post anything regarding this?
Time will tell.

-Wonderboy

RudeDog

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Oct 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/20/98
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Ha! I guess they need the money man :)

Rudedog


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Aaron

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WndrBoy17 wrote in message <19981020173517...@ng123.aol.com>...

>>Why has it taken so long? They haven't worked with The Artist in years.
>
>Probably because O(+> has been bragging about all this money he's making
and of
>course it's pissing people off, so Levi and Tony are wanting 2 get their
fair
>share. I wouldn't be surprised if Carmen steps into the picture too stating
>that she didn't get her dues (like her credits on Good Judy Girlfriend and
All
>That) as if anyone thinks that she even contributed.
>


maybe she'll start bitching at him to turn over the master tapes he owns of
the (unreleased) songs they did together :) i'd like to see his reaction to
that one.

Paul M

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Oct 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/20/98
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Wait a minute, they both got seperate publishing through ASCAP. They
must be suing for production credit or for a contract dispute. Since
their royalties are based on sales, they should both get an even $20
:•D


Lisa N.

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Oct 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/20/98
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friend2001 wrote:
>
> Apparently he owes them some royalties. Methinks he should put out the
> live album now to raise some cash.
>
> Shane
>

Shit, TonyM. should be *paying* P for fucking up some really good songs
with his lame as raps (Live 4 Love, Willing & Able, Daddy Pop, and
everything from the "O(+>" that he's on).

Lisa

Ba...@webtv.net

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Oct 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/20/98
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Could someone please go to the Prince Family site and swipe and post
here on AMP the article posted today that says Levi and Tony M are
suing P over 75 songs and alleging that P is "being funky about money."

Address for Prince Family

http://members.aol.com:80/princefam/

Thanks much : )


Sbacon1999

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Oct 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/20/98
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Here's the swipe from the Family website:

CJ's column 10/20/98 Minneapolis Star Tribune

"Just shocking. A lawyer trying to serve a lawsuit to Prince alleges that
Symbolina 'conceals himself within the state of Minnesota with the intent to
avoid personal service of process.' Either attorney Timothy Matson is not up on
how Prince operates -- the pop singer has an unlisted phone number to his
Chanhassen recording studio! -- or the attorney is being tongue-in-cheek in the
affidavit attached to a suit filed in Hennepin County last week by Levi Seacer
Jr. and Anthony Mosley [Tony M.]. They claim that Prince has not shared
royalties they are owed for songs they've cowritten for Prince's NPG
Publishing. The suit lists 75 songs, including 'Sexy M.F.,' and 'My Name Is
Prince,' for which Seacer and Mosley are alleging that Prince Rogers Nelson is
being funky about money."

Michael Gray

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Oct 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/20/98
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Is anyone surprised by this? I'm not.

How in the hell can you have a work for hire studio and have an unlised number?
Prince is crazy................

HaSSaSSiN

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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The suit lists 75 songs, including 'Sexy M.F.,' and 'My Name Is
Prince,' for which Seacer and Mosley are alleging that Prince Rogers Nelson is
being funky about money."<--75 songs??? no excuse thats downright shameful say
what u want about tony m but levi Oh I knew he wrote alot more.. I also am
willin to bet prince has alot more ghost writers than we know about Oh
why dont wendy n lisa op in the picture 2. That would make another 200 or so
songs cowritten that they havent got credit . Seriously lame tho...... 75
songs?!?!?!? its all about the music my ass/ New power greed
Prince time to face up to ur greediness SO I have no sympahthy for
u

Twelvtoes

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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Umm... I've picked up a Carmen Electra Cd for $2 (too much) and only a few
dollars more in most Used/discount bins. Only fanatics are willing to pay more
than $5 for a horrible album. My point is that what's the royalties on $5 ?
...especially if it's under the CONtracts prince complained about where he only
made change per unit sold.

>I missed this thread - wha' happened?
>

>Twelvtoes wrote:
>
>> >>Apparently he owes them some royalties.
>> >

ThMusikman

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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Tony M is still alive! LOL

PPenzella

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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Are they really trying to sue him for songs that were recorded and released or
stuff that was recorded and stockpiled? IF this story is true it seems to me
thaey would have sued him a long time ago.

PPenzella

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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Shouldn't these guys actually be suing Warner Bros.? After all ultimately they
were the ones fitting the bill for most of everything at that time.

Kilio

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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Yeah! Yeah! what about Love 2the9s I say we start a class action suit against
the "GameBoys"
Tony M. star by proxy-what a joke.
Kilio

Slim kid j

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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i thought tony m and levi were selling drugs LOL

BTYOFDAWN

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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Why did they wait till now, I guess the money they did make off of prince ran
out and no one wants to work with either of them they figured they better sue.

toratora

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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ok, let's break it down. you've got a weak ass rapper and a lucky guitar
player / ass kisser who want royalties off the carmen records (sold worse
than appolonia, i'm sure). all i can do is shake my head and laugh..and
they helped write 75 songs?...(yeah, right)....what a joke!...get a life
MFs!

danceon....toratora

TheRebel06

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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>Why did they wait till now, I guess the money they did make off of prince ran
>out and no one wants to work with either of them they figured they better
>sue.

Or maybe Prince kept promising them that he'd settle up with them and never did
and they got tired of waiting for Prince to be an honest business man.

toratora

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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i hope i wasn't too harsh, tony was cool when i asked for extra sauce on my
McFish yesterday.

toratora <hir...@cetlink.net> wrote in article
<01bdfcab$869d39e0$0804c6d1@clyde>...

MaurDay

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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>From: "toratora" <hir...@cetlink.net>

>i hope i wasn't too harsh, tony was cool when i asked for extra sauce on my
>McFish yesterday.

ROTFLMAO!!!!!

HaSSaSSiN

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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Or maybe Prince kept promising them that he'd settle up with them and never did
and they got tired of waiting for Prince to be an honest business
man.<--somebody give this man 100 hundred thousand. Hes answered the question
prince doesnt want to admit he uses people for ideas and doesnt give them
credit

TheMusic1

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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I've got no love for Levi or Tony, they were both dead weight pulling Prince
down.

I don't know the details of this suit, but in any situation where songwriters
have not received
royalties it takes years before they have firm grounds to file suit. Even in
circumstances when
songwriters have been paid, it takes a couple of years to receive the actual
royalty money.

It's not unreasonable for the process to only now hit the courts.


Sonuvfunk

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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>
>I've got no love for Levi or Tony, they were both dead weight pulling Prince
>down.

AMEN!!! Now, please tell this to that person that's been trying to tell me for
2 days that Levi was tighter than Sonny :)

BAF

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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On bass he was ..
But 10 years ago seems like 6 lives ago ...

On guitar he sucked ..
I agree

EastWestDJ

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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In article <19981021035316...@ng124.aol.com>, them...@aol.com
(TheMusic1) writes:

>I've got no love for Levi or Tony, they were both dead weight pulling Prince
>down.
>

As for Levi, I hear it constantly on this newsgroup that the Lovesexy and SOTT
bands were Prince's finest configurations. Now, last time I checked Levi Seacer
Jr. was part of these bands. He played his part well and be sure to check out
his contributions to the Sounds of Blackness.

Now, for another matter, isn't all this noise about Tony M. and Levi suing O(+>
out of a gossip columnist? Tread lightly people.

Joe Kelley

"God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change. Courage to
change the things I can. And the wisdom to know the difference."

-the Serenity Prayer

Twelvtoes

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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>Shouldn't these guys actually be suing Warner Bros.? After all ultimately
>they
>were the ones fitting the bill for most of everything at that time.
>

I don't know, I believe all of the music Tony M is complaining about was under
the Paisley Park label. As for Levi I'd say most of the music at issue was
under PP as well.

RudeDog

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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Well, there goes my idea for a NEW POWER GENERATION(original) reunion LOL!!!

Rudedog


Scott Warner

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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The Park has been private for a few years now; not for hire.

-Scott


Michael Gray wrote:
>
> Is anyone surprised by this? I'm not.
>
> How in the hell can you have a work for hire studio and have an unlised number?
> Prince is crazy................
>
> Sbacon1999 wrote:
>
> > Here's the swipe from the Family website:
> >
> > CJ's column 10/20/98 Minneapolis Star Tribune
> >
> > "Just shocking. A lawyer trying to serve a lawsuit to Prince alleges that
> > Symbolina 'conceals himself within the state of Minnesota with the intent to
> > avoid personal service of process.' Either attorney Timothy Matson is not up on
> > how Prince operates -- the pop singer has an unlisted phone number to his
> > Chanhassen recording studio! -- or the attorney is being tongue-in-cheek in the
> > affidavit attached to a suit filed in Hennepin County last week by Levi Seacer
> > Jr. and Anthony Mosley [Tony M.]. They claim that Prince has not shared
> > royalties they are owed for songs they've cowritten for Prince's NPG

> > Publishing. The suit lists 75 songs, including 'Sexy M.F.,' and 'My Name Is

Michael Gray

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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I think they meant 75 words...........like the rap parts on Diamonds and
pearls...............

toratora

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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oh no you didn't!!!!!!!! sonny could beat the hell out of wack levi with
one of his afro knots.
levi was just a lucky bastard. sonny could bring it; levi was fakin' the
funk. we won't even talk about tony anymore.
danceon..toratora (mf bass player)

BAF <B...@WireWebb.com> wrote in article <362DAA66...@WireWebb.com>...


> > >I've got no love for Levi or Tony, they were both dead weight pulling
Prince
> > >down.
> >

toratora

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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STILL my sincere opinion.........

toratora <hir...@cetlink.net> wrote in article
<01bdfcab$869d39e0$0804c6d1@clyde>...

Kilio

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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LOL LOL LOL
Kilio

toratora

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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three points from the outside!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Michael Gray <mg...@mailhost1.csusm.edu> wrote in article
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ConiMari98

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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>Why has it taken so long? They haven't worked with The Artist in years.

Because the money in their savings from when they worked for him in the past
has finally ran out.

C.
ICQ # 19427421


ConiMari98

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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>weak ass rapper and a lucky guitar
>player / ass kisser who want royalties off the carmen records (sold worse
>than appolonia, i'm sure). all i can do is shake my head and laugh..and
>they helped write 75 songs?...(yeah, right)....what a joke!...get a life
>MFs!
>
>

Actually I am willing 2 bet that the carmen cd did better than
apollonia...maybe anyway. I mean they did do major advertising for carmen's cd
and she did do some stuff on mtv 2 promote it, I think the smartest thing P
could do though is re release it. Since carmen's career has taken off and all.

C>
ICQ # 19427421


Aaron

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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ConiMari98 wrote in message <19981022013919...@ng04.aol.com>...


1. I don't think he can rerelease it, since it belongs to WB.
2. Outside of Prince fans buying it, it's probably her post-Prince career
that's sold her the most albums, and has very little to do with the major
advertising and MTV exposure. At the time, she was nobody .... and don't
forget, in half those ads they ran for her, they didn't even bother to
mention her name ... ANYWHERE.

ConiMari98

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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>2. Outside of Prince fans buying it, it's probably her post-Prince career
>that's sold her the most albums, and has very little to do with the major
>advertising and MTV exposure. At the time, she was nobody .... and don't
>forget, in half those ads they ran for her, they didn't even bother to
>mention her name ... ANYWHERE.

yes but in the end she probably sold more because of her post career...so it
doesn't matter why she sold more, just that she sold more
ICQ # 19427421


EastWestDJ

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conim...@aol.com (ConiMari98) writes:

>Actually I am willing 2 bet that the carmen cd did better than
>apollonia.

I can groove to some of the tracks on Carmen's CD. But, it is the only thing
she has done that I've liked. Since departing the Park, I haven't appreciated
anything she's done. Plus, she's not my type of lady.

Pll1999

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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her CD was deleted before her career took off so I doubt she sold much

Aaron

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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Pll1999 wrote in message <19981022194029...@ng105.aol.com>...

>her CD was deleted before her career took off so I doubt she sold much


well we all got our copies from the cut-out bins.... and there are 5-10 more
where those came from at each store

Ted Daniel

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Oct 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/23/98
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God I love this subject line! ;-)


toratora

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Oct 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/23/98
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thanks.....i must admit that i borrowed it from stern.

Ted Daniel <webm...@dttlyrics.com> wrote in article
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Katrina Alliasan

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Oct 25, 1998, 2:00:00 AM10/25/98
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If my employer failed to pay me for my work, I would eventually stop
waiting. I wouldn't just sit around and be "grateful" for the note on my
resume, that's for sure.

--k

TheRebel06 wrote:

> >Why did they wait till now, I guess the money they did make off of prince ran
> >out and no one wants to work with either of them they figured they better
> >sue.
>

Kilio

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Oct 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/26/98
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For years and years we, the public, have heard the stories of Prince using and
hurting fellow musicians. Anyone who entered into an agreement after the demise
of the Revolution and Vanity were walking into the situation with full
knowledge of the situation. I'm sure Prince used them and I'm sure he owes them
some money but I do not feel sorry for them.
Kilio

erp...@my-dejanews.com

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"toratora" <hir...@cetlink.net> wrote:

> i hope i wasn't too harsh, tony was cool when i asked for extra sauce on my
> McFish yesterday.

i hope that wasn't Jack Sauce.
heh.

i hope he wasn't wearing a hair net.
he should've been wearing a shower cap, drippy no talent mf.

nice to see you guys can fux0r with someone else for once besides one another
;-)

aloha,
m.

p.s. ...
"embrya"...
do it, for your ears.

since he won't.

> toratora <hir...@cetlink.net> wrote in article
> <01bdfcab$869d39e0$0804c6d1@clyde>...

> > ok, let's break it down. you've got a weak ass rapper and a lucky guitar


> > player / ass kisser who want royalties off the carmen records (sold worse
> > than appolonia, i'm sure). all i can do is shake my head and laugh..and
> > they helped write 75 songs?...(yeah, right)....what a joke!...get a life
> > MFs!
> >

> > danceon....toratora&#137;

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