And, BTW, can someone explain the point of eraser? (besides filling up little
1's and 0's on the CD...
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>And, BTW, can someone explain the point of eraser? (besides filling up little
>1's and 0's on the CD...
To kick the shit out of HLAH ;-).
what's wrong with eraser, it is a cool song, heck, the same could be said
about March of the Pigs, except no one but me has stated that yet
I like reptile and the downward spiral best, although I like reptilian better
than reptile
mike roston
ruiner. Definitely ruiner. mr. self destruct is also pretty admirable.
nd
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Andy
the downward spiral (the song) is the best mood piece on the album. By mood
piece, I mean something that doesn't have a bone-shattering beat, or any
noticeable 'hook', just something that sets a mood. I don't know about you,
but I was depressed as hell after listening to that.
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want to watch it go down" -- "March of the Pigs" NIN
I like hurt. I can identify with it. I think it's easily the most
`powerful' (as you people put it) song on the disc.
: nd
Have I started something? Fuck, I hope not. Or else I'll have to change
because it will look like I'm copying everyone else.
sh
I would say that March of the Pigs and Mr Self Destruct are more powerful
than hurt, imho.
Dan.
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I cant believe it.. I totally agree.
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wow. now *there's* something you don't see too often in the newsgroups!
(total agreement, that is.)
come to think of it, that's something you don't see too often between
umass and hampshire kids too.
it must be something about the air here in amherst, eh?
(just kidding!)
:)
Andy
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be spoken never quite taken back the moon's last light resting deep within
your eyes the heat of the heavens stars warming me as you told me the story
of infinet space and endless wonder within your arms....@academic.csubak.edu
Mr. Self Destruct is alright, but I was expecting a lot more out
of it, I don't know why. By far, the best part is the way it goes all
mellow in the middle all of a sudden. Just for a few bars, you can hear
some of Adrian Belew's guitar in the background - that part is deadly.
Too bad Trent didn't use a bit more of Adrian's stuff on that track.
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THE DOWNWARD SPIRAL--the stuff .sigs are made of.
Huh?
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>
every track is amazing. it is one of the best albums to come out in
years. by far NIN's best album. i fucking love it.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
this ain't too hard, being that it's one of two albums. i suppose
that if you liked phm better than tds, then phm would be "by far nin's
best album". and i guess that 'broken' is nin's best ep hands down.
dave
>this ain't too hard, being that it's one of two albums. i suppose
>that if you liked phm better than tds, then phm would be "by far nin's
>best album". and i guess that 'broken' is nin's best ep hands down.
Technical technical...
Anyway, I would consider BROKEN to be a "body of work," as is PHM and DS.
Even though it was marketed as an EP, I don't know if it would've been as
effective as a full "album." Like Trent said, something about a short, loud
blast of anger... Hell, some of the early Beatles "albums" are pretty short
(not trying to call a comparison or anything). My point being, don't always
consider what the record companies, etc. are trying to label "art" with.
Then again, running around saying "body of work" wouldn't be bad either.
BTW, BROKEN wouldn't be the best EP "hands down." FIXED, the HLAH single,
etc., are in the running as well.
c.s.y.
And later, they'd be jumping around again, with their fists in the air,
screaming "head like a hole!!! Black as your soul!!!"
These'd be the same kids that were, several months earlier, jumping around,
fists in the air, screaming "and he don't know what it means!!! He don't know
what it means!!!"
Just observations, is all... Don't get me wrong, I kinda like "Heresy"...
c.s.y.
: I would say that March of the Pigs and Mr Self Destruct are more powerful
: than hurt, imho.
I think we're having a disagreement of terms... march of the pigs and mr
self destruct are louder and have a more driving drum beat... is that
what you mean by powerful? I'm thinking of the song that stirs the most
emotion in me. MotP and MSD are cool, but they don't stir anything
inside of me... I can't identify with them. It must be a personal thing,
but hurt just makes sense to me.
sh (???)
to answer to this lovely little poll at any rate...
1) A Warm Place
2) Ruiner (agree that the second half is a bit trite - my first reaction)
3) Heresy
and so on...
notes: anyone thought they were listening to FLA for the first bit of Ruiner
the first time they heard it?
after 3:50 or so, Ruiner returns to a good song, IMHO
anybody out there have _Zigoku_ by Dissecting Table? Is there not some
similarity between its sound and the beginning of "the Becoming"?
I'm a bit surprised some people would say that piggy and closer are there fav's-
they are the only two songs on the album that i have bits i don't feel that
comfortable with... anyone else out ther?
i wish i could say something about this album... i just can't *say* what this
album *is*... it is a bit beyond me right now....
oh, and listening to becoming right now... that DT similarity runs all the way
through the album, esp right before 4:00...
mike
BTW, BROKEN wouldn't be the best EP "hands down." FIXED, the HLAH single,
etc., are in the running as well.
come on, now. fixed and the hlah single are *singles*, not eps.
maxisingles, albeit, but they are singles.
dave, who thinks that technicalities are amusing
Jason
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jason
I _really_ like it. The beginning part with the straw sound and the moaning in
the background is absolutely spooky... and then there's the bizzare guitar
bit that comes in later.... too fucking unreal.
Andy D (the other one)
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and the rest of us wonder when he'll just snap like a twig and start shooting
tun...@academic.csubak.edu
What is there a new Butt Fuck Parlour Time installment out that I havn't heard
about???
Andy
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the way I see it, you lump broken, fixed, and the happiness vip promo
togather(as well as the mass consumption mix of physical(if anyone has this I
am looking to trade) and the butch vig mix of last), and you have a pretty
complete lbum, with lots of different entities.
hell, look at evil off from 242(damn good cd IMO), it has 10 tracks, and 6
remixes, plus angels vs. animals if you can find it(I can't)
broken has 8 tracks, plus 6 standard remixes, and 4 more if you are nit
picky(like me). looks like an album to me
mike roston
close, I like reptile and the downward spiral better, but it is one of the
best tracks on the CD(along with a warm place and hurt also)
mike roston
nope, only other mock I heard of was the teni inch men with their album
_pretty vultures_ though I have NO idea what was on it.
what I really want to hear is trent's pre NIN work, but it is so damn hard to
find
mike roston
Ya, I got it even....It's by Pansy Division...a funny queer punk band...
they like to cover popular 'alternative' songs on thier albums....they play
in the bay area alot for cheap or free...Check 'em out...actually, I think
they played here in Santa Cruz last week....
The single isn't that great...but I love the cover...the songs here don't
really cover NIN that well..
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piggy, heresy, the becoming, a warm place, reptile, the downward spiral,
and hurt. As for the rest of the songs, they're great too... there isn't
one i dislike. however, these seven are my favourite.
sh
> every track is amazing. it is one of the best albums to come out in
> years. by far NIN's best album. i fucking love it.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>this ain't too hard, being that it's one of two albums. i suppose
>that if you liked phm better than tds, then phm would be "by far nin's
>best album". and i guess that 'broken' is nin's best ep hands down.
I'm not too good at picking favorites: NIN's best release is the one
that's playing :)
As for songs, nobody has mentioned "the becoming" that I've seen. . . I
really like this song because it carries some of those "personalized"
lyrics that I admire in Trent's music: "the me that you know is now made
up of wires and even when i'm right with you i'm so far away. i could
try to get away, but i've strapped myself in. . ." etc. Kinda
emphasizes Trent's dislike for the fame he's gotten. I dunno. I guess
he likes his audiences & enjoys his shows, but he doesn't like some of
the things that come with stardom (like sausages?). . . That's my guess
as to why he never posts here. He probably doesn't care for everone out
there who asks what brand of underwear he wears so they can get the same
brand. . .
Oh, well. . .
Other fave songs: "ruiner," "reptile" ("reptilian" :), "heresy," "hurt."
Basically all of them. Depends on my mood. . .
Buck Satan.
"the me that you know, he doesn't come around much"
Michele (it won't give up it wants me dead god damn this noise inside my
head)
Here here!
: deciding which I liked better, The Becoming or I Do Not Want This. But
Yet another good choice. I like listening to the two consequetively..
: after listening to the CD another half a dozen times this weekend, I've
: decided it's The Becoming. I'm not sure I can really give any concrete
: reasons why, but there's just something about that particular combination of
: lyrics and music that really does something to me. Just my $0.02.
I like it better than the rest because of:
1> cool time signature (13/4, or 4/4 3/4 4/4 2/4), and you know how i am
about time signatures.. :)
2> cool lyrics
3> cool bass line / style / color to the song..
4> just the right length..
5> hits some nerves
6> cool melody
My fav's on TDS:
the becoming
reptile
march of the pigs
hurt
i do not want this
heresy
ruiner
closer
a warm place
mr self destruct
piggy
the downward spiral
eraser
big man with a gun
My invaluable 1/2 peso.
<>As for songs, nobody has mentioned "the becoming" that I've seen. . . I
<>really like this song because it carries some of those "personalized"
<>lyrics that I admire in Trent's music: "the me that you know is now made
<>up of wires and even when i'm right with you i'm so far away. i could
<>try to get away, but i've strapped myself in. . ." etc. Kinda
The lyrics kind of reminded me of Stephen King's book "The Tommyknockers",
'cept for the stuff about wires...
<>Other fave songs: "ruiner," "reptile" ("reptilian" :), "heresy," "hurt."
Guess I'm one of the few people who really like "closer".
I prefer the "all the pigs, all lined up" version of MotP as well.
tony dematio
u of florida
Karen
I don't want to post the rumor, as it is unconfirmed.
Gayle Kelemen
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>The lyrics kind of reminded me of Stephen King's book "The
Tommyknockers",
>'cept for the stuff about wires...
Interesting thought
><>Other fave songs: "ruiner," "reptile" ("reptilian" :), "heresy,"
"hurt."
>Guess I'm one of the few people who really like "closer".
Ummm. . . Oh yeah. Forgot that one. . . And "a warm place". . . And
"the downward spiral"
Kinda like I was saying before--that's why I don't like to pick
favorites. . .
BTW, I got halo 00 today. You know, the "Supernaut" that I *don't* sing
on :)
Buck Satan.
I guess I'm one also... We should start a support group. ;)
-Jerr(Halo5-less)
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B >Alright, take a poll here... I would have to say that it is a tie betwe
B >Piggy and closer. I know it's a tough choice because all of the songs
B >totally
B >rock, but give it your best anyway...
B >And, BTW, can someone explain the point of eraser? (besides filling up
B >little
B >1's and 0's on the CD...
eraser is a great song!
but the one that hasnt left my head sience I first heard it is..
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c >Sorry if my choice doesn't "totally rock," but I would have to say my fa
c >is
c >"Hurt." The others are quite good, though.
HEAR HEAR!
>And, BTW, can someone explain the point of eraser? (besides filling up
c >little
>1's and 0's on the CD...
c >To kick the shit out of HLAH ;-).
HEAR HEAR!
(What the fuck does that mean? HEAR HEAR? Where did it come from?)
Yeah, in case you didn't hear on the radio today, Trent is playing two
unannounced shows, tonight and tomorrow (Thursday and Friday) at The
Roxy. Tickets are already sold out... and I am going :)
Tickets were $16.75... I found out about the shows a couple hours
late and ended up paying $35 for mine... but I think it will be worth
it...
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Dan McGuirk what do you care
d...@asu.edu what other people think?