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Michael Christ

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Sep 14, 2016, 5:23:42 AM9/14/16
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'Only God can forgive sin'.

I would assume that any sane religious person of the Christian
persuasion would agree to that.

Good, I am glad that is sorted.

So...

(KJV)
Luk 5:20 And when he saw their faith, he said unto him, Man, ***THY
SINS ARE FORGIVEN THEE***.
Luk 5:21 And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, Who
is this which speaketh blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone?

Yes, my Lord Jesus is Lord indeed.





Michael Christ

duke

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Sep 14, 2016, 7:45:07 AM9/14/16
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And so what did he tell his apostles?

John 20:22-23New International Version (NIV)
22 And with that he breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If
you forgive anyone’s sins, their sins are forgiven; if you do not forgive them,
they are not forgiven.”

God can set up any plan he desires. That's why the RCC has the sacrament of
Confession that you don't have. Your sins are still hanging all over your
soul.
>




>
>
>Michael Christ

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

Michael Christ

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Sep 14, 2016, 5:14:26 PM9/14/16
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On 14/09/2016 9:45 PM, duke wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 19:23:35 +1000, Michael Christ
> <jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 'Only God can forgive sin'.
>>
>> I would assume that any sane religious person of the Christian
>> persuasion would agree to that.
>>
>> Good, I am glad that is sorted.
>>
>> So...
>>
>> (KJV)
>> Luk 5:20 And when he saw their faith, he said unto him, Man, ***THY
>> SINS ARE FORGIVEN THEE***.
>> Luk 5:21 And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, Who
>> is this which speaketh blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone?
>>
>> Yes, my Lord Jesus is Lord indeed.

Dukester wrote:
> And so what did he tell his apostles?
>
> John 20:22-23New International Version (NIV)
> 22 And with that he breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If
> you forgive anyone’s sins, their sins are forgiven; if you do not forgive them,
> they are not forgiven.”

By whose authority? By whose Spirit?

Dukester wrote:
> God can set up any plan he desires. That's why the RCC has the sacrament of
> Confession that you don't have. Your sins are still hanging all over your
> soul.

Only God's forgiveness, only God saves, Earl, only God. You and the
Pope will have to step down. :-).





Michael Christ


Robert

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Sep 14, 2016, 7:21:45 PM9/14/16
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Only the blood of Jesus can wash away your sin.

walksalone

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Sep 14, 2016, 7:45:28 PM9/14/16
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Robert <an...@for.now> wrote in
news:8lmjtb9fsioej8toe...@4ax.com:

> On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 06:45:02 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 19:23:35 +1000, Michael Christ
>><jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:


snip,

Same silliness as before. Anything for the spotlight.

walksalone who needs not comment of Robert's parrot skills, but might.

Now. Where is that message ID where you claim I called you a liar?

Michael Christ

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Sep 14, 2016, 9:47:53 PM9/14/16
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What are you going to do, get some of His blood put it in a washing
machine and jump in??

You don't even know what you are saying, it's just jargon religious
churchy theology empty talk.

Jesus was indeed crucified died (shed His blood) for the sins of the
WHOLE WORLD.

If you want to be free of sin, this is what you must do...

"Keep the commandments...1"

Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with
all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.
Mat 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour
as thyself.
Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Someone pointed this out to me years ago, but notice if you will, it
says 'Thou shalt'; a prophetic nature to it.

Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. Through faithful obedience to His
direction in your life through the Spirit and He will bring it to pass
in you.

Notice, I said, 'He will bring it to pass in you', not you striving in
your self-righteousness to bring it to pass in yourself.

...when are you going to learn, Robert??





Michael Christ






duke

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Sep 15, 2016, 7:47:30 AM9/15/16
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 07:14:17 +1000, Michael Christ
<jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On 14/09/2016 9:45 PM, duke wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 19:23:35 +1000, Michael Christ
>> <jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 'Only God can forgive sin'.
>>>
>>> I would assume that any sane religious person of the Christian
>>> persuasion would agree to that.
>>>
>>> Good, I am glad that is sorted.
>>>
>>> So...
>>>
>>> (KJV)
>>> Luk 5:20 And when he saw their faith, he said unto him, Man, ***THY
>>> SINS ARE FORGIVEN THEE***.
>>> Luk 5:21 And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, Who
>>> is this which speaketh blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone?
>>>
>>> Yes, my Lord Jesus is Lord indeed.

>Dukester wrote:

>> And so what did he tell his apostles?
>>
>> John 20:22-23New International Version (NIV)
>> 22 And with that he breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If
>> you forgive anyone’s sins, their sins are forgiven; if you do not forgive them,
>> they are not forgiven.”

>By whose authority? By whose Spirit?

God has never been seen. He used Jesus, a man, to forgive sins and then the man
Jesus assigned other men to do the same. God always works THRU men to do his
bidding.

>Dukester wrote:
>> God can set up any plan he desires. That's why the RCC has the sacrament of
>> Confession that you don't have. Your sins are still hanging all over your
>> soul.
>
>Only God's forgiveness, only God saves, Earl, only God. You and the
>Pope will have to step down. :-).

Then you better call Jesus and tell him he didn't have the authority to forgive
sins or to assign others to do so.

You people that reject Jesus are in for a rude surprise for your failures to
follow him.

The point you miss is that the way God set it up is YOU have to come forward in
shame and admit what you did in repentance. Your way is to think you are
forgiven without any sense of regret or failure to follow God..

duke

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Sep 15, 2016, 7:50:14 AM9/15/16
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>Only the blood of Jesus can wash away your sin.

If you were baptized, your original sin inputted to you was washed away. After
than, if you continue to willfully sin and never be reconciled with God as given
in John 20:22-23, then you face the fires of Heb 10:26-27.

It's all in scripture.

duke

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Sep 15, 2016, 8:01:44 AM9/15/16
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 11:47:45 +1000, Michael Christ
You fool, you fool, you. It's all spelled out in scripture. And the way of the
Roman Catholic Church.

Romans 6:3-7New International Version (NIV)
3 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were
baptized into his death? 4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism
into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the
glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.
5 For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we will certainly
also be united with him in a resurrection like his. 6 For we know that our old
self was crucified with him so that the body ruled by sin might be done away
with,[a] that we should no longer be slaves to sin— 7 because anyone who has
died has been set free from sin.

See, you're set free from sin inputted to you. Unless you continue to sin. Heb
10:26-27.


>You don't even know what you are saying, it's just jargon religious
>churchy theology empty talk.
>
>Jesus was indeed crucified died (shed His blood) for the sins of the
>WHOLE WORLD.

Yep, but only for sins from the first covenant, pre Christian baptism = original
and actual sin.

Hebrews 9:15New International Version (NIV)
15 For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are
called may receive the promised eternal inheritance—now that he has died as a
ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant.

>If you want to be free of sin, this is what you must do...
>"Keep the commandments...1"

True, but it's not in man's nature to do that. Remember, sin is far less than
something like murder. If you step past a beggar without helping him, you just
committed a sin just wouldn't do. If you curse out a road rage, you just
committed something that Jesus would never have done.

We live in sin.

>Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with
>all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
>Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.
>Mat 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour
>as thyself.
>Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
>
>Someone pointed this out to me years ago, but notice if you will, it
>says 'Thou shalt'; a prophetic nature to it.
>
>Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. Through faithful obedience to His
>direction in your life through the Spirit and He will bring it to pass
>in you.

>Notice, I said, 'He will bring it to pass in you', not you striving in
>your self-righteousness to bring it to pass in yourself.

Heeheehee. You would like to believe that, but I recommend you pay attention to
what Jesus taught, not what you wish he had said.

MASS:
Do this in memory of me - Mat 26:26-29, Mark 14:22-26, Luke 22:14-20,
1Cor 11:23-25 (11-34).

SACRAMENTS:
1. Baptism - John 3:5-6, Mat 28:19, Hebrew 2:14-15
2. Holy Eucharist -Mat 26:26-29, Mark 14:22-26, Luke 22:14-20,
1Cor 11:23-25 (11-34).
3. Confession - John 20:22-23, 2 Cor 5:18-19, Mat 9:2-8
4. Matrimony - Mat 19:4-6, Mark 10:5-9, Ephesians 5:31
5. Confirmation - Ephesians 1:13-14, Acts 8:14-17, Acts 19:5-6,
6. Holy Orders - Acts 13:3 & 14:23, John 20:22, 1 & 2 Tim
7. Anointing of the Sick - Mark 6:12-13, John 5:14

PAPACY:
Mat 16:13-19 (Pope), Mat 28:16-20 (Teaching), Eph 2:19-20 (Base)

PURGATORY:
1 Cor 3:10-15

FAITH (without deeds is dead faith):
Mat 25:31-46, James 2:26
Feed the hungry.
Clothe the naked.
Give drink to the thirsty.
Visit the imprisoned.

Heal the sick.
Cast out demons.

Robert

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Sep 15, 2016, 4:02:34 PM9/15/16
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 07:01:41 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>you're set free from sin inputted to you. Unless you continue to sin. Heb
>10:26-27.

How about you learning some correct English.

Robert

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Sep 15, 2016, 4:04:43 PM9/15/16
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 06:50:11 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>If you were baptized, your original sin inputted to you was washed away. After
>than, if you continue to willfully sin and never be reconciled with God as given
>in John 20:22-23, then you face the fires of Heb 10:26-27.
>
>It's all in scripture.

Then prove it.

Michael Christ

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Sep 15, 2016, 4:43:35 PM9/15/16
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You speak as though you know me, Dukester.

You don't even know yourself.






Michael Christ

Michael Christ

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Sep 15, 2016, 4:51:09 PM9/15/16
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All your works then are of no value and simply a waste of time because...

Dukester wrote:
>We live in sin.

Rom 6:22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God,
ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.
Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal
life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Is this one of your it's hard but it is easy 'contradiction things' again?

Okay, back on your knees and see what Saint Teresa thinks. You can
start by telling her to lift her game.





Michael Christ

Great Sage Itchy

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Sep 15, 2016, 7:33:10 PM9/15/16
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It's only in the RCC INTERPRETATION of scripture.
Which is a hi-jacked, and re-imagined "Christianity"
created to glorify and enrich Rome.

walksalone

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Sep 15, 2016, 9:27:36 PM9/15/16
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Robert <an...@for.now> wrote in
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You think you can, or ypou are pretending you can?

walksalone

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Sep 15, 2016, 9:28:53 PM9/15/16
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Robert <an...@for.now> wrote in
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Now now, ladies first. It's not like you are known for backing your
claims. Like the following one.

duke

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Sep 16, 2016, 5:06:51 PM9/16/16
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On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 06:43:27 +1000, Michael Christ
<jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>You speak as though you know me, Dukester.
>
>You don't even know yourself.

Then you don't yourself or me.

duke

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Sep 16, 2016, 5:11:38 PM9/16/16
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It's pretty clear that you now recognize that you are not up to speed on
scripture - you being one of those single-verse believers..

duke

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Sep 16, 2016, 5:18:59 PM9/16/16
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On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 06:51:00 +1000, Michael Christ
And Jesus well advised you in no uncertain terms that faith without deeds is
dead faith - absolutely no concept at all of what he was telling you.

>Dukester wrote:
> >We live in sin.

>Rom 6:22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God,
>ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.
>Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal
>life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

But, unless you live in a bubble, you live in sin - not murder but well short of
loving Jesus and your neighbor as yourself. Now some sins are mortal and some
or not. So as long as you live in sin, you are facing spiritual death.

Which is why Jesus gave us the sacrament of confession to be made right with
God, with disaster pending for mortal sins which can be reconciled with God in
confession.

>Is this one of your it's hard but it is easy 'contradiction things' again?
>
>Okay, back on your knees and see what Saint Teresa thinks. You can
>start by telling her to lift her game.

I'm sticking with Jesus, Son of God on this one.

>Michael Christ

the dukester, American-American

duke

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Sep 16, 2016, 5:19:23 PM9/16/16
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And to think you told me to learn to read.

duke

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Sep 16, 2016, 5:21:37 PM9/16/16
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Jesus founded the RCC. You protest_ants didn't come along for 1600 years.

Michael Christ

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Sep 16, 2016, 7:09:11 PM9/16/16
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Dukester wrote:
>We live in sin.

Catholicism.




Michael Christ

The Doctor

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Sep 16, 2016, 7:10:17 PM9/16/16
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In article <4footbd2dc734oebv...@4ax.com>,
Jesus will judge the RCC for corrupting His Word.

>the dukester, American-American
>
>*****
>"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
>Pope Paul VI
>*****


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doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote in
news:nrhu4o$2gev$9...@gallifrey.nk.ca:

> In article <4footbd2dc734oebv...@4ax.com>,
> duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

snip


>>Jesus founded the RCC. You protest_ants didn't come along for 1600
>>years.
>>
>
> Jesus will judge the RCC for corrupting His Word.

Bit hard to do. Without the infighting among early xians, three would be
on xianity. They led to the foundation of the formal catholic churches.
The Coptic, Greek, etc.

walksalone who is not surprised at claims like the above. It's what xians
do best.

I do not believe in God, because I believe in man. Whatever
his mistakes, man has for thousands of years past
been working to undo the botched job your God has
made.
勇mma Goldman

Great Sage Itchy

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Sep 16, 2016, 10:27:44 PM9/16/16
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Jesus was MURDERED by the RCC. His real teachings were hidden
by the RCC, and a PHONY "religion" for the masses was created to
cash-in on his popularity.

duke

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Sep 17, 2016, 8:19:54 AM9/17/16
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On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 09:09:10 +1000, Michael Christ
<jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Dukester wrote:
>>We live in sin.
>
>Catholicism.

Protestants. You refuse to follow:

MASS:
Do this in memory of me - Mat 26:26-29, Mark 14:22-26, Luke 22:14-20,
1Cor 11:23-25 (11-34).

SACRAMENTS:
1. Baptism - John 3:5-6, Mat 28:19, Hebrew 2:14-15
2. Holy Eucharist -Mat 26:26-29, Mark 14:22-26, Luke 22:14-20,
1Cor 11:23-25 (11-34).
3. Confession - John 20:22-23, 2 Cor 5:18-19, Mat 9:2-8
4. Matrimony - Mat 19:4-6, Mark 10:5-9, Ephesians 5:31
5. Confirmation - Ephesians 1:13-14, Acts 8:14-17, Acts 19:5-6,
6. Holy Orders - Acts 13:3 & 14:23, John 20:22, 1 & 2 Tim
7. Anointing of the Sick - Mark 6:12-13, John 5:14

PAPACY:
Mat 16:13-19 (Pope), Mat 28:16-20 (Teaching), Eph 2:19-20 (Base)

PURGATORY:
1 Cor 3:10-15

FAITH (without deeds is dead faith):
Mat 25:31-46, James 2:26
Feed the hungry.
Clothe the naked.
Give drink to the thirsty.
Visit the imprisoned.

Heal the sick.
Cast out demons.


duke

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Sep 17, 2016, 8:20:40 AM9/17/16
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On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 23:10:16 -0000 (UTC), doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor)
wrote:
Here's his WORD that you reject:

MASS:
Do this in memory of me - Mat 26:26-29, Mark 14:22-26, Luke 22:14-20,
1Cor 11:23-25 (11-34).

SACRAMENTS:
1. Baptism - John 3:5-6, Mat 28:19, Hebrew 2:14-15
2. Holy Eucharist -Mat 26:26-29, Mark 14:22-26, Luke 22:14-20,
1Cor 11:23-25 (11-34).
3. Confession - John 20:22-23, 2 Cor 5:18-19, Mat 9:2-8
4. Matrimony - Mat 19:4-6, Mark 10:5-9, Ephesians 5:31
5. Confirmation - Ephesians 1:13-14, Acts 8:14-17, Acts 19:5-6,
6. Holy Orders - Acts 13:3 & 14:23, John 20:22, 1 & 2 Tim
7. Anointing of the Sick - Mark 6:12-13, John 5:14

PAPACY:
Mat 16:13-19 (Pope), Mat 28:16-20 (Teaching), Eph 2:19-20 (Base)

PURGATORY:
1 Cor 3:10-15

FAITH (without deeds is dead faith):
Mat 25:31-46, James 2:26
Feed the hungry.
Clothe the naked.
Give drink to the thirsty.
Visit the imprisoned.

Heal the sick.
Cast out demons.




duke

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Sep 17, 2016, 8:22:04 AM9/17/16
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On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 19:27:39 -0700, Great Sage Itchy
There was only the Jewish faith then. You been drinking already?

>His real teachings were hidden
>by the RCC, and a PHONY "religion" for the masses was created to
>cash-in on his popularity.

My Catholic Study bible and the Mass readings are found in your bible.

Michael Christ

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Sep 17, 2016, 9:14:36 PM9/17/16
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Dukester wrote:
>We live in sin.

Michael Christ wrote:
>Catholicism.

Dukester trying to slip over to those trees over yonder to hide, writes:
> Protestants.

Nothing to do with me, Dukester, I am neither Catholic nor Protestant.

Dukester wrote:
>We live in sin.

Well, you are a Catholic.

Catholicism.

Its seems your glorious list is powerless to change you.

(snip)

Perhaps then, you should shut up and stop listening to the drone of your
obvious error state mouthiness.






Michael Christ

Great Sage Itchy

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Sep 18, 2016, 4:07:33 AM9/18/16
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On 2016-09-17 12:21:59 +0000, duke said:

>>> Jesus founded the RCC. You protest_ants didn't come along for 1600 years.
>>>
>>> the dukester, American-American
>
>> Jesus was MURDERED by the RCC.
>
> There was only the Jewish faith then. You been drinking already?

He was murdered by Romans who had their own religion.

>
>> His real teachings were hidden
>> by the RCC, and a PHONY "religion" for the masses was created to
>> cash-in on his popularity.
>
> My Catholic Study bible and the Mass readings are found in your bible.
> the dukester, American-American

"My Catholic Study bible and the Mass readings are found in your bible."

I don't have one. I used it for toilet paper many years ago.
It's the work of the RCC, so of course your "Catholic" shit is in it.

Robert

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Sep 19, 2016, 3:43:42 AM9/19/16
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On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:19:20 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 13:04:42 -0700, Robert <an...@for.now> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 06:50:11 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>If you were baptized, your original sin inputted to you was washed away. After
>>>than, if you continue to willfully sin and never be reconciled with God as given
>>>in John 20:22-23, then you face the fires of Heb 10:26-27.
>>>
>>>It's all in scripture.
>>
>>Then prove it.
>
>And to think you told me to learn to read.
>
>the dukester, American-American

Figures, nothing but hot air in you.

walksalone

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Sep 19, 2016, 4:33:27 AM9/19/16
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Robert <an...@for.now> wrote in
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Now now, quit bragging on yourself. Or have you found the answer to your
claim?

duke

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Sep 19, 2016, 8:23:34 AM9/19/16
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On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 11:14:34 +1000, Michael Christ
<jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Dukester wrote:
>>We live in sin.
>
>Michael Christ wrote:
>>Catholicism.
>
>Dukester trying to slip over to those trees over yonder to hide, writes:
>> Protestants.
>
>Nothing to do with me, Dukester, I am neither Catholic nor Protestant.

Pagan?

>Dukester wrote:
> >We live in sin.
>Well, you are a Catholic.
>Catholicism.

>Its seems your glorious list is powerless to change you.

Heb 4:15 says we won't be successful, but we must try.

>(snip)
>
>Perhaps then, you should shut up and stop listening to the drone of your
>obvious error state mouthiness.

The only obvious is that you don't know what you're talking about.

duke

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Sep 19, 2016, 8:26:08 AM9/19/16
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Jesus taught it. What more do you need?

duke

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Sep 19, 2016, 8:28:59 AM9/19/16
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On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 01:07:27 -0700, Great Sage Itchy
<HisRoyal...@itchy.com> wrote:

>On 2016-09-17 12:21:59 +0000, duke said:
>
>>>> Jesus founded the RCC. You protest_ants didn't come along for 1600 years.
>>>>
>>>> the dukester, American-American
>>
>>> Jesus was MURDERED by the RCC.
>>
>> There was only the Jewish faith then. You been drinking already?
>
>He was murdered by Romans who had their own religion.

The Romans soldiers were directed by Pilate. But he was not ready to argue with
the Jews, so he ordered the crucifixion to not have to worry about problems with
them. It's all in the scripture.

>>> His real teachings were hidden
>>> by the RCC, and a PHONY "religion" for the masses was created to
>>> cash-in on his popularity.
>>
>> My Catholic Study bible and the Mass readings are found in your bible.
>> the dukester, American-American
>
>"My Catholic Study bible and the Mass readings are found in your bible."

>I don't have one. I used it for toilet paper many years ago.
>It's the work of the RCC, so of course your "Catholic" shit is in it.

Yet all bibles (valid ones) say exactly the same thing. Variances in language
sometimes but still the same spiritual message.

Robert

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Sep 19, 2016, 2:49:29 PM9/19/16
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On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 07:26:02 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>Jesus taught it. What more do you need?

Not what you said.

Michael Christ

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Sep 19, 2016, 5:16:22 PM9/19/16
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Dukester wrote:
>>> We live in sin.

Dukester setting the standard, wrote:
> Heb 4:15 says we won't be successful, but we must try.

That's funny, I don't recall Jesus dying on the cross for you to remain
as you are.





Michael Christ

walksalone

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Robert <an...@for.now> wrote in news:moc0ubdfkq2gqfab53b8dbgookp6b5s1ac@
4ax.com:

> On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 07:26:02 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>Jesus taught it. What more do you need?
>
> Not what you said.

Given the tap dance you go through as you pretend to answer questions above
your ability, how could you know?

Robert

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On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:11:35 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 13:02:33 -0700, Robert <an...@for.now> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 07:01:41 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>you're set free from sin inputted to you. Unless you continue to sin. Heb
>>>10:26-27.
>>
>>How about you learning some correct English.
>
>It's pretty clear that you now recognize that you are not up to speed on
>scripture - you being one of those single-verse believers..
>

ROTFL, Had you read this post you would see your lies, I referenced
two scriptures.

A troll, short, roly poly, troll.

Great Sage Itchy

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On 2016-09-19 12:28:53 +0000, duke said:

> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 01:07:27 -0700, Great Sage Itchy
> <HisRoyal...@itchy.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2016-09-17 12:21:59 +0000, duke said:
>>
>>>>> Jesus founded the RCC. You protest_ants didn't come along for 1600 years.
>>>>>
>>>>> the dukester, American-American
>>>
>>>> Jesus was MURDERED by the RCC.
>>>
>>> There was only the Jewish faith then. You been drinking already?
>>
>> He was murdered by Romans who had their own religion.
>
> The Romans soldiers were directed by Pilate. But he was not ready to
> argue with
> the Jews, so he ordered the crucifixion to not have to worry about
> problems with
> them. It's all in the scripture.

History is written by the winners.

>
>>>> His real teachings were hidden
>>>> by the RCC, and a PHONY "religion" for the masses was created to
>>>> cash-in on his popularity.
>>>
>>> My Catholic Study bible and the Mass readings are found in your bible.
>>> the dukester, American-American
>>
>> "My Catholic Study bible and the Mass readings are found in your bible."
>
>> I don't have one. I used it for toilet paper many years ago.
>> It's the work of the RCC, so of course your "Catholic" shit is in it.
>
> Yet all bibles (valid ones) say exactly the same thing. Variances in language
> sometimes but still the same spiritual message.
> the dukester, American-American

There is almost NOTHING "spiritual" in the bible. The RCC removed
all the spiritual writings, to turn Christianity into a "worship" based
"mass-market" "religion", that made Rome the center of a global
phony-"spiritual" protection racket that took in trillions of dollars.

The RCC is the DESTROYER of Christianity. History will eventually
acknowledge this.

>
> *****
> "The Mass is the most 2-digit form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI
> *****


--
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and Author of: 'Saved' means 'INSANE', "Evangelical Christianity is BULLSHIT",
and "Fuck G-D, and the H-RSE He Rode In On".

The sayings of His Holiness, the prophet Itchy:

Original Christianity : "Jesus Christ, fisher of men."
Evangelical Christianity: "Jesus Christ, roaster of men."

Spirituality is about enlightenment,
Religion is about hating and killing.

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walksalone

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Robert <an...@for.now> wrote in
news:5eo1ub98ubi198rv8...@4ax.com:

> On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:11:35 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

snip

>>It's pretty clear that you now recognize that you are not up to speed
>>on scripture - you being one of those single-verse believers..
>>
>
> ROTFL, Had you read this post you would see your lies, I referenced
> two scriptures.

Forgeries, or misinterpreted text are not the same as evidence.

duke

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On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 11:29:08 +0000 (UTC), walksalone <spams...@nerdshack.com>
wrote:
Robert doesn't even understand the concept of "sin INPUTTED" in us as opposed to
sins that we ourselves commit. It's a concept of input vs committed.

duke

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I know. I was buried with him in my own Christian baptism. Thus as he rose, so
do we.

duke

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Sep 20, 2016, 1:17:46 PM9/20/16
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It's clear what I said sailed right over your head.

duke

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On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 00:22:27 -0700, Great Sage Itchy
<HisRoyal...@itchy.com> wrote:

>On 2016-09-19 12:28:53 +0000, duke said:
>
>> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 01:07:27 -0700, Great Sage Itchy
>> <HisRoyal...@itchy.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2016-09-17 12:21:59 +0000, duke said:
>>>
>>>>>> Jesus founded the RCC. You protest_ants didn't come along for 1600 years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the dukester, American-American
>>>>
>>>>> Jesus was MURDERED by the RCC.
>>>>
>>>> There was only the Jewish faith then. You been drinking already?
>>>
>>> He was murdered by Romans who had their own religion.
>>
>> The Romans soldiers were directed by Pilate. But he was not ready to
>> argue with
>> the Jews, so he ordered the crucifixion to not have to worry about
>> problems with
>> them. It's all in the scripture.
>
>History is written by the winners.

Jesus won.

>>>>> His real teachings were hidden
>>>>> by the RCC, and a PHONY "religion" for the masses was created to
>>>>> cash-in on his popularity.
>>>>
>>>> My Catholic Study bible and the Mass readings are found in your bible.
>>>> the dukester, American-American
>>>
>>> "My Catholic Study bible and the Mass readings are found in your bible."
>>
>>> I don't have one. I used it for toilet paper many years ago.
>>> It's the work of the RCC, so of course your "Catholic" shit is in it.
>>
>> Yet all bibles (valid ones) say exactly the same thing. Variances in language
>> sometimes but still the same spiritual message.
>> the dukester, American-American

>There is almost NOTHING "spiritual" in the bible.

Now there's a clear admission of zero comprehension of spiritual.

> The RCC removed
>all the spiritual writings,

Name one removed.

>The RCC is the DESTROYER of Christianity. History will eventually
>acknowledge this.

You've got 8 billion years to show it.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

duke

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Sep 20, 2016, 1:33:01 PM9/20/16
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On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 00:16:37 -0700, Robert <an...@for.now> wrote:

>On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:11:35 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 13:02:33 -0700, Robert <an...@for.now> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 07:01:41 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>you're set free from sin inputted to you. Unless you continue to sin. Heb
>>>>10:26-27.
>>>
>>>How about you learning some correct English.
>>
>>It's pretty clear that you now recognize that you are not up to speed on
>>scripture - you being one of those single-verse believers..
>>
>
>ROTFL, Had you read this post you would see your lies, I referenced
>two scriptures.

Like I said, when you get past all applicable thoughts, you'll better understand
the truth.

Michael Christ

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Sep 20, 2016, 5:47:11 PM9/20/16
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Dukester wrote:
>>>>> We live in sin.

Dukester setting the standard, wrote:
>>> Heb 4:15 says we won't be successful, but we must try.


Michael Christ wrote:
>> That's funny, I don't recall Jesus dying on the cross for you to remain
>> as you are.

Dukester wrote:
> I know. I was buried with him in my own Christian baptism. Thus as he rose, so
> do we.

What? Still in your sin state?? So Jesus is one with sin???

Do you know how many times I have seen you trip over an elephant, pick
yourself up, dust yourself off, and go on as though nothing happened?

Many!

You are without excuse.



Michael Christ

Great Sage Itchy

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Sep 20, 2016, 9:21:58 PM9/20/16
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On 2016-09-20 17:19:49 +0000, duke said:

> On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 00:22:27 -0700, Great Sage Itchy
> <HisRoyal...@itchy.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2016-09-19 12:28:53 +0000, duke said:
>>
>>> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 01:07:27 -0700, Great Sage Itchy
>>> <HisRoyal...@itchy.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2016-09-17 12:21:59 +0000, duke said:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Jesus founded the RCC. You protest_ants didn't come along for 1600 years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the dukester, American-American
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jesus was MURDERED by the RCC.
>>>>>
>>>>> There was only the Jewish faith then. You been drinking already?
>>>>
>>>> He was murdered by Romans who had their own religion.
>>>
>>> The Romans soldiers were directed by Pilate. But he was not ready to
>>> argue with
>>> the Jews, so he ordered the crucifixion to not have to worry about
>>> problems with
>>> them. It's all in the scripture.
>>
>> History is written by the winners.
>
> Jesus won.

Jesus was murdered by the Roman Government. His popularity
was hi-jacked by Rome and turned into a phony worship-based
"religion" for stupid people that has swindeled the masses out
of their money and life savings for 200 years in exchange for
lies and bullshit.

>
>>>>>> His real teachings were hidden
>>>>>> by the RCC, and a PHONY "religion" for the masses was created to
>>>>>> cash-in on his popularity.
>>>>>
>>>>> My Catholic Study bible and the Mass readings are found in your bible.
>>>>> the dukester, American-American
>>>>
>>>> "My Catholic Study bible and the Mass readings are found in your bible."
>>>
>>>> I don't have one. I used it for toilet paper many years ago.
>>>> It's the work of the RCC, so of course your "Catholic" shit is in it.
>>>
>>> Yet all bibles (valid ones) say exactly the same thing. Variances in language
>>> sometimes but still the same spiritual message.
>>> the dukester, American-American
>
>> There is almost NOTHING "spiritual" in the bible.
>
> Now there's a clear admission of zero comprehension of spiritual.
>
>> The RCC removed
>> all the spiritual writings,
>
> Name one removed.

The Gospel According to St. Thomas
>
>> The RCC is the DESTROYER of Christianity. History will eventually
>> acknowledge this.
>
> You've got 8 billion years to show it.

90% of the world already knows it.

>
> the dukester, American-American
>
> *****
> "The Mass is the most asshole form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI
> *****

Great Sage Itchy

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On 2016-09-21 01:21:52 +0000, Great Sage Itchy said:

>>> History is written by the winners.
>>
>> Jesus won.
>
> Jesus was murdered by the Roman Government. His popularity
> was hi-jacked by Rome and turned into a phony worship-based
> "religion" for stupid people that has swindeled the masses out
> of their money and life savings for 200 years in exchange for
> lies and bullshit.

Should say:
"of their money and life savings for 2000 years in exchange for..."

Great Sage Itchy

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On 2016-09-20 17:15:58 +0000, duke said:

> On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 11:29:08 +0000 (UTC), walksalone
> <spams...@nerdshack.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Robert <an...@for.now> wrote in
>> news:5eo1ub98ubi198rv8...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:11:35 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> snip
>>
>>>> It's pretty clear that you now recognize that you are not up to speed
>>>> on scripture - you being one of those single-verse believers..
>>>>
>>>
>>> ROTFL, Had you read this post you would see your lies, I referenced
>>> two scriptures.
>>
>> Forgeries, or misinterpreted text are not the same as evidence.
>>
>> Now. Where is that message ID where you claim I called you a liar?
>
> Robert doesn't even understand the concept of "sin INPUTTED" in us as
> opposed to
> sins that we ourselves commit. It's a concept of input vs committed.

Yes, don't forget about the RCC invention of "Original Sin", one of
the greatest cons of all time. The LIE that built the Roman Catholic
Pedophile Empire.

>
> the dukester, American-American
>
> *****
> "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI
> *****


duke

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On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 22:01:45 -0700, Great Sage Itchy
<HisRoyal...@itchy.com> wrote:

>On 2016-09-20 17:15:58 +0000, duke said:
>
>> On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 11:29:08 +0000 (UTC), walksalone
>> <spams...@nerdshack.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Robert <an...@for.now> wrote in
>>> news:5eo1ub98ubi198rv8...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:11:35 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> snip
>>>
>>>>> It's pretty clear that you now recognize that you are not up to speed
>>>>> on scripture - you being one of those single-verse believers..
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ROTFL, Had you read this post you would see your lies, I referenced
>>>> two scriptures.
>>>
>>> Forgeries, or misinterpreted text are not the same as evidence.
>>>
>>> Now. Where is that message ID where you claim I called you a liar?
>>
>> Robert doesn't even understand the concept of "sin INPUTTED" in us as
>> opposed to
>> sins that we ourselves commit. It's a concept of input vs committed.
>
>Yes, don't forget about the RCC invention of "Original Sin", one of
>the greatest cons of all time. The LIE that built the Roman Catholic
>Pedophile Empire.

It's such a massive problem for man that Jesus gave us the Sacrament of Baptism
to be released form it. It's called original because A&E ignored God's command
and followed their own conscience. Put another way, they considered themselves
the equal of God.

You can't get away with this post.

duke

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Sep 21, 2016, 4:08:07 PM9/21/16
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On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 07:47:05 +1000, Michael Christ
<jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Dukester wrote:
>>>>>> We live in sin.
>
>Dukester setting the standard, wrote:
>>>> Heb 4:15 says we won't be successful, but we must try.
>
>
>Michael Christ wrote:
>>> That's funny, I don't recall Jesus dying on the cross for you to remain
>>> as you are.
>
>Dukester wrote:
>> I know. I was buried with him in my own Christian baptism. Thus as he rose, so
>> do we.
>
>What? Still in your sin state?? So Jesus is one with sin???

No, he never sinned. If you were a Christian, you'd understand that. Yet he
was still crucified. Scripture says we are buried with him in our own baptism.

>Do you know how many times I have seen you trip over an elephant, pick
>yourself up, dust yourself off, and go on as though nothing happened?

Never, little fanny. You are too stupid to grasp what you are saying.

>Many!
>You are without excuse.

I've showed you over and over your failures to follow the teachings of Jesus.

>
>
>
>Michael Christ

duke

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On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 18:21:52 -0700, Great Sage Itchy
<HisRoyal...@itchy.com> wrote:

>On 2016-09-20 17:19:49 +0000, duke said:
>
>> On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 00:22:27 -0700, Great Sage Itchy
>> <HisRoyal...@itchy.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2016-09-19 12:28:53 +0000, duke said:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 01:07:27 -0700, Great Sage Itchy
>>>> <HisRoyal...@itchy.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2016-09-17 12:21:59 +0000, duke said:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jesus founded the RCC. You protest_ants didn't come along for 1600 years.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the dukester, American-American
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jesus was MURDERED by the RCC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There was only the Jewish faith then. You been drinking already?
>>>>>
>>>>> He was murdered by Romans who had their own religion.
>>>>
>>>> The Romans soldiers were directed by Pilate. But he was not ready to
>>>> argue with
>>>> the Jews, so he ordered the crucifixion to not have to worry about
>>>> problems with
>>>> them. It's all in the scripture.
>>>
>>> History is written by the winners.
>>
>> Jesus won.
>
>Jesus was murdered by the Roman Government. His popularity
>was hi-jacked by Rome

No, it wasn't. There was no "Catholic Rome" at the time.

>and turned into a phony worship-based
>"religion" for stupid people that has swindeled the masses out
>of their money and life savings for 200 years in exchange for
>lies and bullshit.

What part of hell are you wishing for.

>>> There is almost NOTHING "spiritual" in the bible.
>> Now there's a clear admission of zero comprehension of spiritual.

>>> The RCC removed
>>> all the spiritual writings,

>> Name one removed.

>The Gospel According to St. Thomas

It was never in. On mistake is disqualifying.

>>> The RCC is the DESTROYER of Christianity. History will eventually
>>> acknowledge this.

>> You've got 8 billion years to show it.
>90% of the world already knows it.

100% of the world already knows you're full of bullshit.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

Michael Christ

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Dukester wrote:
>We live in sin.

Dust yourself off and walk on then.





Michael Christ

Great Sage Itchy

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Sep 21, 2016, 11:58:45 PM9/21/16
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Total RCC BULLSHIT. It's NOT what the Genesis means.
2-Digit IQ interpretation, like everything about the RCC.
I could say what the story really means, and I have here
many times, but it would be a total waste of time.
You can't take away the fantasyland that people live in.
They would kill to protect it.
That's what all "religion" is about.

>
> You can't get away with this post.
>
> the dukester, American-American
>
> *****
> "The Mass is the most moronic form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI
> *****

Great Sage Itchy

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I didn't say anything about "Catholic Rome".

>
>> and turned into a phony worship-based
>> "religion" for stupid people that has swindeled the masses out
>> of their money and life savings for 200 years in exchange for
>> lies and bullshit.
>
> What part of hell are you wishing for.
>
>>>> There is almost NOTHING "spiritual" in the bible.
>>> Now there's a clear admission of zero comprehension of spiritual.
>
>>>> The RCC removed
>>>> all the spiritual writings,
>
>>> Name one removed.
>
>> The Gospel According to St. Thomas
>
> It was never in. On mistake is disqualifying.

It was LEFT OUT. By the RCC

>
>>>> The RCC is the DESTROYER of Christianity. History will eventually
>>>> acknowledge this.
>
>>> You've got 8 billion years to show it.
>> 90% of the world already knows it.
>
> 100% of the world already knows you're full of bullshit.

Why do you reply to me 20 times if I'm "full of Bullshit"?

>
> the dukester, American-American
>
> *****
> "The Mass is the most stupid form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI
> *****

duke

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Sep 22, 2016, 12:46:41 PM9/22/16
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On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 20:58:38 -0700, Great Sage Itchy
Then you truly are a void of what Jesus said.

>It's NOT what the Genesis means.
>2-Digit IQ interpretation, like everything about the RCC.
>I could say what the story really means, and I have here
>many times, but it would be a total waste of time.

I know what it says. As genesis 1-11 is a statement about early man and sin,
they violated God's instructions, decided they were his equal, and chose to do
what they wanted to. That's what original sin is, and as they were our first
parents, it means that we too as human kind are of the same character - a
sinner. Welcome to your self.

>You can't take away the fantasyland that people live in.
>They would kill to protect it.
>That's what all "religion" is about.

Our original sin is removed in the Sacrament of Baptism and makes us Christians.
Were you baptized? Remember, REv 21:27 says "NO sin can enter heaven and that
includes the propensity to sin".


the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

duke

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Sep 22, 2016, 12:47:23 PM9/22/16
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On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 06:19:53 +1000, Michael Christ
<jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Dukester wrote:
>>We live in sin.
>
>Dust yourself off and walk on then.

The Sacrament of Confession was given by Jesus for that purpose. Have you been?

duke

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Sep 22, 2016, 12:49:02 PM9/22/16
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On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 21:04:49 -0700, Great Sage Itchy
Then you meant the Roman soldiers?

>>> and turned into a phony worship-based
>>> "religion" for stupid people that has swindeled the masses out
>>> of their money and life savings for 200 years in exchange for
>>> lies and bullshit.
>>
>> What part of hell are you wishing for.
>>
>>>>> There is almost NOTHING "spiritual" in the bible.
>>>> Now there's a clear admission of zero comprehension of spiritual.
>>
>>>>> The RCC removed
>>>>> all the spiritual writings,
>>
>>>> Name one removed.
>>
>>> The Gospel According to St. Thomas
>>
>> It was never in. On mistake is disqualifying.

>It was LEFT OUT. By the RCC

It had errors or fabrications or lacked anything not included one of the
canonized gospels.

>
>>
>>>>> The RCC is the DESTROYER of Christianity. History will eventually
>>>>> acknowledge this.
>>
>>>> You've got 8 billion years to show it.
>>> 90% of the world already knows it.
>>
>> 100% of the world already knows you're full of bullshit.
>
>Why do you reply to me 20 times if I'm "full of Bullshit"?
>
>>
>> the dukester, American-American
>>
>> *****
>> "The Mass is the most stupid form of Prayer."
>> Pope Paul VI
>> *****

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

Great Sage Itchy

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Sep 23, 2016, 9:17:53 AM9/23/16
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On 2016-09-22 16:48:57 +0000, duke said:

>>>>>> The RCC removed
>>>>>> all the spiritual writings,
>>>
>>>>> Name one removed.
>>>
>>>> The Gospel According to St. Thomas
>>>
>>> It was never in. On mistake is disqualifying.
>
>> It was LEFT OUT. By the RCC
>
> It had errors or fabrications or lacked anything not included one of the
> canonized gospels.

It is one of the 2 or 3 greatest writings in history. It's the real truth, as
Jesus spoke it, that is why it was left out by the RCC.

Great Sage Itchy

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Sep 24, 2016, 1:18:29 AM9/24/16
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On 2016-09-22 16:46:34 +0000, duke said:

>> Total RCC BULLSHIT.
>
> Then you truly are a void of what Jesus said.
>
>> It's NOT what the Genesis means.
>> 2-Digit IQ interpretation, like everything about the RCC.
>> I could say what the story really means, and I have here
>> many times, but it would be a total waste of time.
>
> I know what it says. As genesis 1-11 is a statement about early man and sin,
> they violated God's instructions, decided they were his equal, and chose to do
> what they wanted to. That's what original sin is, and as they were our first
> parents, it means that we too as human kind are of the same character - a
> sinner. Welcome to your self.

Genesis 1-11 is NOT about "SIN". That is an invention of the RCC.
God is NOT a Person or Being of any kind and has NEVER
given "instructions" to man. There was no "talking snake".
We are NOT "sinners" – that is the BIG RCC LIE.
The entire rotten "church" is built on that LIE.
The Genesis story is about a change in the direction of mankind,
due natural causes (precession).
The "Serpent" is the constellation Draco, the dragon, or serpent.
It marks the time of the event.
The world of ONE (the spiritual world) became the world of TWO,
(the tree of knowledge of good and evil). In the ORIGINAL version
of the story, I am sure the words were: "the tree of knowledge of
OPPOSITES). Mankind was to take-up the STUDY (knowledge)
of the MATERIAL world. The study of Science and technology.

It's a beautiful story, turned into filth and LIES by the RCC so
that an elite homosexual "priesthood" could rape choirboys.

>
>> You can't take away the fantasyland that people live in.
>> They would kill to protect it.
>> That's what all "religion" is about.
>
> Our original sin is removed in the Sacrament of Baptism and makes us
> Christians.
> Were you baptized? Remember, REv 21:27 says "NO sin can enter heaven and that
> includes the propensity to sin".
>

The BIGGEST LIE ever perpetrated on the human race.
The LIE that BUILT the RCC pedophile empire.

duke

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On Fri, 23 Sep 2016 22:18:23 -0700, Great Sage Itchy
<HisRoyal...@itchy.com> wrote:

>On 2016-09-22 16:46:34 +0000, duke said:
>
>>> Total RCC BULLSHIT.
>>
>> Then you truly are a void of what Jesus said.
>>
>>> It's NOT what the Genesis means.
>>> 2-Digit IQ interpretation, like everything about the RCC.
>>> I could say what the story really means, and I have here
>>> many times, but it would be a total waste of time.
>>
>> I know what it says. As genesis 1-11 is a statement about early man and sin,
>> they violated God's instructions, decided they were his equal, and chose to do
>> what they wanted to. That's what original sin is, and as they were our first
>> parents, it means that we too as human kind are of the same character - a
>> sinner. Welcome to your self.
>
>Genesis 1-11 is NOT about "SIN". That is an invention of the RCC.

Gen 3 completely reveals the "original" sin by A&E.

>God is NOT a Person or Being of any kind and has NEVER
>given "instructions" to man. There was no "talking snake".
>We are NOT "sinners" – that is the BIG RCC LIE.

NT scripture well reveals that Jesus alone avoided sin

>The entire rotten "church" is built on that LIE.
>The Genesis story is about a change in the direction of mankind,
>due natural causes (precession).

Yeah, towards personal exercise of violation of God's rules.

duke

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All it took was one error, or one fabrication, or failed to reveal one new truth
form Jesus Christ. Thus it was disqualified by the Catholic Church for
canonization in the bible. One of these days I have to read it.

Michael Christ

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Dukester wrote:
>We live in sin.

Michael Christ wrote:
>Dust yourself off and walk on then.

Dukester wrote:
> The Sacrament of Confession was given by Jesus for that purpose. Have you been?

So you can continue to live in sin then. Dust yourself off and walk on,
in sin.

You need to get on to Mary and ask, 'What gives?'





Michael Christ

duke

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Sep 25, 2016, 9:26:45 AM9/25/16
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On Sun, 25 Sep 2016 08:32:20 +1000, Michael Christ
<jesusisth...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Dukester wrote:
>>We live in sin.
>
>Michael Christ wrote:
>>Dust yourself off and walk on then.
>
>Dukester wrote:
>> The Sacrament of Confession was given by Jesus for that purpose. Have you been?

>So you can continue to live in sin then. Dust yourself off and walk on,
>in sin.

You do too, but you think Jesus doesn't care. Satan likes to hear that.

>You need to get on to Mary and ask, 'What gives?'

She knows.
>
>
>
>
>
>Michael Christ

Great Sage Itchy

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On 2016-09-24 12:52:03 +0000, duke said:

>>> I know what it says. As genesis 1-11 is a statement about early man and sin,
>>> they violated God's instructions, decided they were his equal, and chose to do
>>> what they wanted to. That's what original sin is, and as they were our first
>>> parents, it means that we too as human kind are of the same character - a
>>> sinner. Welcome to your self.
>>
>> Genesis 1-11 is NOT about "SIN". That is an invention of the RCC.
>
> Gen 3 completely reveals the "original" sin by A&E.

It does NOT.

>
>> God is NOT a Person or Being of any kind and has NEVER
>> given "instructions" to man. There was no "talking snake".
>> We are NOT "sinners" – that is the BIG RCC LIE.
>
> NT scripture well reveals that Jesus alone avoided sin

Another RCC LIE.

>
>> The entire rotten "church" is built on that LIE.
>> The Genesis story is about a change in the direction of mankind,
>> due natural causes (precession).
>
> Yeah, towards personal exercise of violation of God's rules.

There are NO "RULES".

There are Laws, called "God's Law" in the Bible. But what "God's Laws"
actually ARE, is totally unknown to modern Christianity.
The real Laws were removed by the RCC, because they conflicted
with the "Church", and to the RCC, the "Church" was far more important
that the health, happiness and spiritual development of the planet.


walksalone

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Great Sage Itchy <HisRoyal...@itchy.com> wrote in
news:2016092603155619105-HisRoyalFleekness@itchycom:

> On 2016-09-24 12:52:03 +0000, duke said:

snip pissing contest starring Robert.

duke

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On Mon, 26 Sep 2016 03:15:56 -0700, Great Sage Itchy
<HisRoyal...@itchy.com> wrote:

>On 2016-09-24 12:52:03 +0000, duke said:
>
>>>> I know what it says. As genesis 1-11 is a statement about early man and sin,
>>>> they violated God's instructions, decided they were his equal, and chose to do
>>>> what they wanted to. That's what original sin is, and as they were our first
>>>> parents, it means that we too as human kind are of the same character - a
>>>> sinner. Welcome to your self.
>>>
>>> Genesis 1-11 is NOT about "SIN". That is an invention of the RCC.
>>
>> Gen 3 completely reveals the "original" sin by A&E.
>
>It does NOT.

Yep. Original sin is the sin nature that all mankind is inputted/born with.
It's reflected as the original rejection of God telling A&E not to eat from the
tree, and they did anyway. Original Sin of mankind is redeemed by Jesus in the
cross and our baptism into his life..

>>> God is NOT a Person or Being of any kind and has NEVER
>>> given "instructions" to man. There was no "talking snake".
>>> We are NOT "sinners" – that is the BIG RCC LIE.
>>
>> NT scripture well reveals that Jesus alone avoided sin

>Another RCC LIE.

Heb 4:15.

>>> The entire rotten "church" is built on that LIE.
>>> The Genesis story is about a change in the direction of mankind,
>>> due natural causes (precession).
>>
>> Yeah, towards personal exercise of violation of God's rules.

>There are NO "RULES".

The 10 commandments.

>There are Laws, called "God's Law" in the Bible. But what "God's Laws"
>actually ARE, is totally unknown to modern Christianity.
>The real Laws were removed by the RCC

Haahaahaa. You protest_ers are the ones that think you don't need to live by
the 10 commandments. We of the RCC follow them as advised by Jesus in the NT.

>, because they conflicted
>with the "Church", and to the RCC, the "Church" was far more important
>that the health, happiness and spiritual development of the planet.

We follow them. YOU.........don't.

Great Sage Itchy

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On 2016-09-26 20:46:26 +0000, duke said:

>>>> Genesis 1-11 is NOT about "SIN". That is an invention of the RCC.
>>>
>>> Gen 3 completely reveals the "original" sin by A&E.
>>
>> It does NOT.
>
> Yep. Original sin is the sin nature that all mankind is inputted/born with.
> It's reflected as the original rejection of God telling A&E not to eat from the
> tree, and they did anyway. Original Sin of mankind is redeemed by Jesus in the
> cross and our baptism into his life..
>
>>>> God is NOT a Person or Being of any kind and has NEVER
>>>> given "instructions" to man. There was no "talking snake".
>>>> We are NOT "sinners" – that is the BIG RCC LIE.
>>>
>>> NT scripture well reveals that Jesus alone avoided sin
>
>> Another RCC LIE.
>
> Heb 4:15.
>
>>>> The entire rotten "church" is built on that LIE.
>>>> The Genesis story is about a change in the direction of mankind,
>>>> due natural causes (precession).
>>>
>>> Yeah, towards personal exercise of violation of God's rules.
>
>> There are NO "RULES".
>
> The 10 commandments.

Not Christianity. Judaic MORAL CODE.

>
>> There are Laws, called "God's Law" in the Bible. But what "God's Laws"
>> actually ARE, is totally unknown to modern Christianity.
>> The real Laws were removed by the RCC
>
> Haahaahaa. You protest_ers are the ones that think you don't need to live by
> the 10 commandments. We of the RCC follow them as advised by Jesus in the NT.

You worship Donald Trump.
FAITH in Trump: (without deeds is dead faith):
Starve the hungry - end food stamps and walfare
Deport the non-white.
End medicare.
Take away Social Security.
Build a wall around America.
Bomb the shit out of them.
Kill Kill Kill Kill Kill all those we HATE.

These are the Commandments you REALLY believe in.
You are LOSERS, who want to keep out all those who are
smarter and more ambitious. You are "Christian" LOSERS,
who believe "Jesus Christ" is going to save your LOSER asses.

>
>> , because they conflicted
>> with the "Church", and to the RCC, the "Church" was far more important
>> that the health, happiness and spiritual development of the planet.
>
> We follow them. YOU.........don't.

They aren't Christianity. But they are all you 2-digit losers have.
You don't even know what Christianity is.
You are stupid authotitarian LOSERS. You want RULES to ensure
that people smarter than you don't have any advantage.
LOSER!

> the dukester, American-American
>
> *****
> "The Mass is the most stupid form of Prayer."
> Pope Rump-Ranger VI
> *****

duke

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On Mon, 26 Sep 2016 15:16:43 -0700, Great Sage Itchy
<HisRoyal...@itchy.com> wrote:

>On 2016-09-26 20:46:26 +0000, duke said:
>
>>>>> Genesis 1-11 is NOT about "SIN". That is an invention of the RCC.
>>>>
>>>> Gen 3 completely reveals the "original" sin by A&E.
>>>
>>> It does NOT.
>>
>> Yep. Original sin is the sin nature that all mankind is inputted/born with.
>> It's reflected as the original rejection of God telling A&E not to eat from the
>> tree, and they did anyway. Original Sin of mankind is redeemed by Jesus in the
>> cross and our baptism into his life..
>>
>>>>> God is NOT a Person or Being of any kind and has NEVER
>>>>> given "instructions" to man. There was no "talking snake".
>>>>> We are NOT "sinners" – that is the BIG RCC LIE.
>>>>
>>>> NT scripture well reveals that Jesus alone avoided sin
>>
>>> Another RCC LIE.
>>
>> Heb 4:15.
>>
>>>>> The entire rotten "church" is built on that LIE.
>>>>> The Genesis story is about a change in the direction of mankind,
>>>>> due natural causes (precession).
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, towards personal exercise of violation of God's rules.
>>
>>> There are NO "RULES".
>>
>> The 10 commandments.
>
>Not Christianity. Judaic MORAL CODE.

Nope. They come form God and apply to all mankind. The Jews made up 613 rules
to use to measure their success at keeping the 10 commandments. Goat herders
needed the help in comprehension. Jesus gave us 2 replacement ways to follow
God - love and obedience of God and love of neighbor as you love yourself. Now
that's something even the Jews could understand.

>>> There are Laws, called "God's Law" in the Bible. But what "God's Laws"
>>> actually ARE, is totally unknown to modern Christianity.
>>> The real Laws were removed by the RCC
>>
>> Haahaahaa. You protest_ers are the ones that think you don't need to live by
>> the 10 commandments. We of the RCC follow them as advised by Jesus in the NT.

>You worship Donald Trump.
>FAITH in Trump: (without deeds is dead faith):
>Starve the hungry - end food stamps and walfare
>Deport the non-white.
>End medicare.
>Take away Social Security.
>Build a wall around America.
>Bomb the shit out of them.
>Kill Kill Kill Kill Kill all those we HATE.

Boo hoo boo boo.

>These are the Commandments you REALLY believe in.
>You are LOSERS, who want to keep out all those who are
>smarter and more ambitious. You are "Christian" LOSERS,
>who believe "Jesus Christ" is going to save your LOSER asses.

Jesus saves those that listen to him. I don't see you doing this.
You follow your own gospel rather than the one from Jesus.

>>> , because they conflicted
>>> with the "Church", and to the RCC, the "Church" was far more important
>>> that the health, happiness and spiritual development of the planet.
>>
>> We follow them. YOU.........don't.

>They aren't Christianity.

The Christian Church was founded by Jesus Christ.

>But they are all you 2-digit losers have.
>You don't even know what Christianity is.
>You are stupid authotitarian LOSERS. You want RULES to ensure

Yes we do. Here you are - you fail:

MASS:
Do this in memory of me - Mat 26:26-29, Mark 14:22-26, Luke 22:14-20,
1Cor 11:23-25 (11-34).

SACRAMENTS:
1. Baptism - John 3:5-6, Mat 28:19, Hebrew 2:14-15
2. Holy Eucharist -Mat 26:26-29, Mark 14:22-26, Luke 22:14-20,
1Cor 11:23-25 (11-34).
3. Confession - John 20:22-23, 2 Cor 5:18-19, Mat 9:2-8
4. Matrimony - Mat 19:4-6, Mark 10:5-9, Ephesians 5:31
5. Confirmation - Ephesians 1:13-14, Acts 8:14-17, Acts 19:5-6,
6. Holy Orders - Acts 13:3 & 14:23, John 20:22, 1 & 2 Tim
7. Anointing of the Sick - Mark 6:12-13, John 5:14

PAPACY:
Mat 16:13-19 (Pope), Mat 28:16-20 (Teaching), Eph 2:19-20 (Base)

PURGATORY:
1 Cor 3:10-15

FAITH (without deeds is dead faith):
Mat 25:31-46, James 2:26
Feed the hungry.
Clothe the naked.
Give drink to the thirsty.
Visit the imprisoned.

Heal the sick.
Cast out demons.


the dukester, American-American

*****

Great Sage Itchy

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God is NOT a person, and has NEVER spoken, written, or carved a single word.
"founded by Jesus Christ..."
That has to be one of the most OUTRAGEOUS LIES in History,
you murdered Him and set yourselves up in his place.
I hope someday that every person who has ever made that
outrageous claim swings from a rope. Judgement day will come for
you Catholic cocksuckers, and I look forward to it.
You worship Donald Trump.
FAITH in Trump: (without deeds is dead faith):
Starve the hungry - end food stamps and welfare
Deport the non-white.
End medicare.
Take away Social Security.
Build a wall around America.
Bomb the shit out of them.
Kill Kill Kill Kill Kill all those we HATE.

duke

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On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 15:01:00 -0700, Great Sage Itchy
Again, you overplay your ignorance. He twice had to "write" the tablets of the
10 commandments.

>>>>> There are Laws, called "God's Law" in the Bible. But what "God's Laws"
>>>>> actually ARE, is totally unknown to modern Christianity.
>>>>> The real Laws were removed by the RCC
>>>>
>>>> Haahaahaa. You protest_ers are the ones that think you don't need to live by
>>>> the 10 commandments. We of the RCC follow them as advised by Jesus in the NT.
>>
>>> You worship Donald Trump.
>>> FAITH in Trump: (without deeds is dead faith):
>>> Starve the hungry - end food stamps and walfare
>>> Deport the non-white.
>>> End medicare.
>>> Take away Social Security.
>>> Build a wall around America.
>>> Bomb the shit out of them.
>>> Kill Kill Kill Kill Kill all those we HATE.
>>
>> Boo hoo boo boo.

>These are the Commandments you REALLY believe in.

I believe the 10 commandments GIVEN BY GOD and the way Jesus advised that we
follow them.

>You are LOSERS, who want to keep out all those who are
>smarter and more ambitious. You are "Christian" LOSERS,
>who believe "Jesus Christ" is going to save your LOSER asses.

If he doesn't for you and me, we're both doomed.

>>> These are the Commandments you REALLY believe in.
>>> You are LOSERS, who want to keep out all those who are
>>> smarter and more ambitious. You are "Christian" LOSERS,
>>> who believe "Jesus Christ" is going to save your LOSER asses.
>>
>> Jesus saves those that listen to him. I don't see you doing this.
>> You follow your own gospel rather than the one from Jesus.
>>
>>>>> , because they conflicted
>>>>> with the "Church", and to the RCC, the "Church" was far more important
>>>>> that the health, happiness and spiritual development of the planet.
>>>>
>>>> We follow them. YOU.........don't.
>>
>>> They aren't Christianity.
>>
>> The Christian Church was founded by Jesus Christ.

>"founded by Jesus Christ..."
>That has to be one of the most OUTRAGEOUS LIES in History,
>you murdered Him and set yourselves up in his place.
>I hope someday that every person who has ever made that
>outrageous claim swings from a rope. Judgement day will come for
>you Catholic cocksuckers, and I look forward to it.

Wow, you're totally clueless to the revelations of the early NT, 3 year ministry
of Jesus, the cross, the resurrection and ascension, and the characteristics he
gave his new CHRIST_ian Church on earth as follows:
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