Buh-bye
tantr...@aol.com
went sorta like this...
Unc:
> > For the record, just in case she does [that is,
> > Judy does start trashing him on FFL], Barry
> > will react by making one simple post suggesting
> > that he has been followed from another forum
> > by a cyberstalker who is obsessed with him,
> > and that he does not choose to interact with
> > her in any way. Others will then be free to
> > assess her ongoing posts as they wish... :-)
Judy:
> Of course, the alt.m.t participants on Fairfield
> Life, who know the facts, will also be free to
> interpret Barry's falsehoods to the others--as will
> I--with quotes from Barry's posts on alt.m.t urging
> everybody here to visit Fairfield Life, among others.
>
> So that probably wouldn't be such a hot idea, Barry,
> if you want to maintain any credibility over there.
That is EXACTLY what I shall do if you follow me
there and start to trash me based on your hostility
from the past, Judy.
And on this forum I shall treat you with the full
respect I believe you deserve, by ignoring your silly
ass. So I guess this is buh-bye, bitch. :-)
In parting I suggest that in your last sentence above
you have defined yourself perfectly. What you DO here
on a.m.t. is try to keep the people you don't like from
maintaining any credibility. That's your whole act.
And what you're most upset about is that I got to
start over on another forum. I am perfectly content
to be assessed by the folks on FFL on the basis of my
posts there. I don't really give a shit whether anyone
thinks I have any credibility or not; that's YOUR hangup,
not mine. There I get to do what I wanted to do here --
have interesting conversations with interesting people,
for the sheer fun of it.
And no matter what you do, that situation will con-
tinue on FFL. If you are SO obsessed with me that
you follow me there to trash me, I shall post what I
suggested above (which will be the truth and you know
it) and allow people to make their own assessments
as to credibility.
As for this forum, I shall allow you to be "credible"
all by your lonesome. Have fun with that, y'hear?
Unc
John Manning
Running away seems to be Barry's m.o.
jst...@panix.com
That makes the 46th time you've made this promise, after
the 45th lasted less than a week.
> In parting I suggest that in your last sentence above
> you have defined yourself perfectly. What you DO here
> on a.m.t. is try to keep the people you don't like from
> maintaining any credibility. That's your whole act.
No, Barry, sorry, you've made two mistakes here.
First, the *reason* I don't like certain people is
because they're phonies, you most of all. I dislike
people who don't tell the truth and who put on acts,
who are afraid to be straightforward and authentic,
who dishonestly put others down in order to exalt
themselves.
So you got that backward.
The second mistake follows from the first: these
certain people lack credibility *because they're
phonies*. The most I do is call them on their
phoniness. I can't keep someone who genuinely
*has* credibility from maintaining it, nor would
I want to.
> And what you're most upset about is that I got to
> start over on another forum.
Wrong again. As far as I'm concerned, it would be
wonderful to be free of you here. I wouldn't wish
you on anybody, but the FL folks are perfectly
capable of dealing with you as you should be dealt
with.
However, notice your inadvertent admission that
you *need* a chance to "start over" with folks who
don't know you well enough yet to realize what a
phony you are.
I am perfectly content
> to be assessed by the folks on FFL on the basis of my
> posts there. I don't really give a shit whether anyone
> thinks I have any credibility or not; that's YOUR hangup,
> not mine.
We've long since noticed that honesty and authenticity
are not your concerns. The FL folks will find that out
in short order.
> There I get to do what I wanted to do here --
> have interesting conversations with interesting people,
> for the sheer fun of it.
But only until they realize what a phony you are.
> And no matter what you do, that situation will con-
> tinue on FFL. If you are SO obsessed with me that
> you follow me there to trash me, I shall post what I
> suggested above (which will be the truth and you know
> it)
Nah, it wouldn't be the truth. First of all, I remind
you once again that it was *you* who suggested alt.m.t
participants check out Fairfield Life. All it would
take to demolish your claim is to repost there what
you said here.
And in any case, the only reason I would post to
Fairfield Life is if you launched or participated
in another attack on me, or on others here, and the
alt.m.t participants on FL didn't call you on it.
> and allow people to make their own assessments
> as to credibility.
I suspect they will do that with or without your
permission.
> As for this forum, I shall allow you to be "credible"
> all by your lonesome. Have fun with that, y'hear?
Forty-sixth iteration of the vow duly noted, May 15,
10:53 a.m. EST. The clock is running.
Steve Ralph
"John Manning" <jrob...@terra.com.br> wrote in message
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sr
shemp...@netscape.net
John Manning wrote:
[snip]
>
> Running away seems to be Barry's m.o.
Running away from WHAT?
He's on a goddamn computer just like all the rest of us!
"Running away" seems a more appropriate description of someone who
hates America (yet professes to love it) and has run away to some South
American country yet spends virtually ALL his time (and I do mean ALL
his time) on his computer -- away from his wife, mind you -- railing
against and complaining about the country he has RUN AWAY from...all
from the comfort and safety of his computer room.
John Manning
You don't like Canada, McGoo?
SeaFire
I am participating, mostly reading, the FFL for several years now
and it happens that I know Judy from the time she used to post on
TMNEWS on yahoo. Judy always appeared to me as straightforward
and authentic person.
I also saw your post on FFL trashing Judy for no apparent reason,
I hope you watch your manners on FFL, we don't suffer fools.
shemp...@netscape.net
I love Canada.
I live and make my living in the U.S. ... AND I don't accuse others of
"running away"...NOR do I spend my entire waking hours obsessing about
the country I left...if I did that and was SO concerned with how evil
my country had become I would go back to that country and try and make
a difference and try and change things.
You, John, don't do that.
Instead you have run away and hidden behind the cosy comfort of a
computer screen in the safety of a computer room 10,000 miles away.
Hey, John, would you like me to do a google groups search on how many
hundreds of anti-US posts you put here and other newsgroup each month?
tantr...@aol.com
> I hope you watch your manners on FFL, we don't suffer fools.
I would suggest that you judge me by my posts, rather
than on what someone else seems to want you to believe.
Unless, of course, you're used to being told how to
think and have come to enjoy it. In that case, suit
yourself. :-)
Unc
Steve Ralph
<shemp...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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do not
see this as anti-US. Also he probably left the US long before Bush arrived
on
the scene - is this running away? Emigrating is surely a more precise term.
SR
SeaFire
tantric...@aol.com wrote:
> SeaFire wrote:
> > I hope you watch your manners on FFL, we don't suffer fools.
>
> I would suggest that you judge me by my posts,
That's exactly what I'm doing, and I'm disappointed.
It looks like you didn't read my previous post or you are pretending
not to understand.
I'm not used to seeing a new group member, FFL, in this case, that
after just two weeks starting to trash people from other groups behind
their back. I hope it's not your standard behavior.
John Manning
Indeed, Steve. I'm not anti-America. I love
America. BushCo, in my view, is destroying
it piece by piece. I suspect that you feel
somewhat similarly about Blair's policies in
Great Britain.
I live in Brazil because my wife is
Brazilian - *not because I dislike the USA*
[unlike Barry Wright].
I'm retired and my wife is both a practicing
attorney and a psychologist here in Brazil.
I actually have a home in the USA in which,
some day, my wife and I may live. That could
very well happen if the Bush gang of
criminals doesn't cause a major depression
there and/or establish a theocratic fascist
state.
Also, there are 100's of thousands of
Americans that live overseas. Most of them
are acutely aware of the disaster of the
Bush administration because they get factual
news - not the BushCo corporately controlled
propaganda that shows up in the US
mainstream media.
Steve Ralph
"SeaFire" <Sea....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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sr
shemp...@netscape.net
Well, great, John.
So maybe we can all agree that you aren't running away and neither is
Tantra.
John Manning
He actually said that he was in both cases -
from the USA and from Judy on amt - in case
you didn't read what he has said, moron.
shemp...@netscape.net
Keep spreading that universal love, John...
SeaFire
:)
John Manning
You don't appear to even know what that is,
McGoo.
jst...@panix.com
SeaFire wrote:
> we did one.
> :)
Barry has an endless supply of piss in reserve,
unfortunately.
jst...@panix.com
SeaFire wrote:
> Barry,
>
> I am participating, mostly reading, the FFL for several years now
> and it happens that I know Judy from the time she used to post on
> TMNEWS on yahoo. Judy always appeared to me as straightforward
> and authentic person.
Appreciate the kind words, SeaFire.
But be aware that Barry likes to characterize anybody who
supports me as my "toady." It's an attempt to intimidate
people into not taking my side on anything.
pundi...@gmail.com
> Running away seems to be Barry's m.o.
>
ROTFL!!!
Forum: Yahoo! TM Controversy
From: John Manning
Date: Mon Jul 29, 2002 7:39 pm
Subject: Re: Maharishi's TM mantras
Message 1028
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TMControversy/message/1028
I asked Brahmachari Sattyanand what the meaning of the addition to my
mantra in the advanced technique that he gave me was. He answered, "The
meaning, if I told you, would interfere with your results. Don't go by
the meaning, just go by the sound."
I later looked up my mantra.
It indeed does have a semantic meaning. I also looked up the other ones
that Maharishi gave me to teach. They also have semantic meanings.
Because, in terms of today's peer reviewed scientific criteria - in the
terms I used here there is no support in "today's" science for such
claims.