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May 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/29/98

Finals are over! My turn to fill out one of these furvey thingamabobs :)
I've posted once or twice already when I couldn't keep my muzzle shut but
now I can really get to delurk and tell you about the subject I can babble
the most about: myself ;)

Furvey 2.5
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Yourself
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1) Are you male or female?
Male

2) How old are you?
20

3) What zodiac sign are you?
Capricorn

4) What year were you born in, and what is your Chinese New Year animal?
1978 Earth Snake (January is before the Chinese New Year switches,
otherwise I'd be horse like all the others born in 78)

5) What month/day were you born in?
January 2

6) Are you left handed or right handed?
Right dominant though I used to be ambidextrous until I learned my left
from my right (sort of) and was trained out of it in Kindergarten. I'm
told I'd be drawing with one hand get tired and switch to the other. I
remember being very confused when trying to figure out my right and left
when they told me my right was the hand I wrote with and I could never
figure out which one that was since I used both. I still have trouble with
left and right and just point when giving directions. Makes it hard when I
have to give them on the phone ;) "Turn umm...*gesturing with his hand*
that way"

7) What interests/hobbies do you have?
Sculpting, acting, drawing, reading, collecting Stuff! (plushies, swords,
comicbooks, miniatures, Pogo books, real hats: not ball caps...), hanging
out with friends, fencing when I can, playing trombone, and many more
things.

8) What do you do for a living?
Professional procrastinator and BS artist, ie college student. I work in
the Mac lab during school and do day labor for contractors during the
Summer, the manual labor pays better :)

9) What talents do you have?
I can be at a party and no one will remember I was there, hiding in plain
sight. I walk without making any noise which frightens people to find a
6'5" guy next to them or behind them when they look. My dorm roommate has
had many near heart attacks due to this talent. These two I've recently
discovered are linked to my fox totem, more on that later. I can also
handle clay very well and can remember intricate little details that are
absolutely of no importance. In grade school I could bark exactly like a
seal and even was asked to bark in front of the whole school. It's been a
long time since I used that talent though making mouse noises to attract
critters works very well :) I also have tendency to appear older than I
am, once in high school fellow students asked me what class I taught.

10) What annoys you the most, in general?
When people show no respect for others, whether it takes the form of
intolerance or "marking" the toilet seat. I almost never show my annoyance
though. (Wisconsin German mother)

11) Where in the world do you live?
Variable. During the School year I live in Turlock CA, which is in the
Guiness Book of World Records for highest number of churches per capita.
It also has the benefit of strong winds carrying that lovely dairy air.
When not in college I'm at home in San Francisco. Though after being away
it feels less like home and more like my parent's house.

12) What part of your country do you live in? (city, countryside, suburbs
etc)
Rural in college, city when not in college

13) Do you consider yourself to be psychic, in any way?
Somewhat. I've had one precognitive dream that was true to the
smallest detail. The dream occured exactly as if it were real and came
true the next day. I've been able to finish others sentences and know what
they're thinking but that's more due to familiarity than psychic skills. I
have been told by friends who practice magic that I have a very strong
power that can be overwhelming. One of these days I'll have to figure out
how to use it.

14) Do you consider yourself to be of above-average intelligence?
I tend to think of myself more along the lines of being uncommonly
sensible, possessing common sense that is. Unfortunately from looking
around at the "real" world I'm entering this puts me high above average :/

*still shaking his head over the students in his Freshman composition
class who couldn't read the words "precious" or "giraffe"*

15) Is your living space (e.g. room/house/apartment etc) furry themed?
*looks around at his walls covered in posters of bears, wolves, and foxes;
his bed covered in plushies with the looney tunes throw and the Fuzzybear
pillow one of his friends made for him, plus all the little figures of
bears and such on his desk and the beanie bears he uses as wrist cushions
when he types* Nah ;)

16) What kind of music do you like?
Musicals (huge Sondheim fan), soundtracks, 80's music, celtic, celtic
rock, Weird Al, Tom Lehrer, Capitol Steps, (should probably just lump
those last three into humor), big band, jazz, ska, classical, period,
cartoons, and probably just about anything that isn't rap or country.

17) What do you do to relax/wind down?
Lie in the warm sun, either on some nice grass or close to a window. I
spent too much time watching the cats as a cub ;) I'll also do clay
sculting when I've got that available. Nothing quite like kneading and
molding something to get you calmed down. Baking usually helps when I
can't do sculpting. Also sometimes it's nice just to lie in bed and close
my eyes listening to my natural wolf howl cd. *rrrrrrumble* :)

18) Do you draw/write/make furry things?
I draw furries and most of my sculptures are critters, usually dragons as
they're such fun to make :) I would write furry stories if I ever got the
muse long enough. I've had one story in my head for five years now that
won't go away.

19) Have other furs seen them?
Yes

20) Have non-furs seen them?
I show most everyone my sketchbooks. If they express the slightest
interest I pounce em and show them pages of mediocre furry drawings HAha!
;)

21) Have they been shown somewhere ? (Avatar, newgroups, web pages, comics,
fanzines)
My drawings are on Yerf, Yiffco, and probably a few others. I'm showing my
sculptures at AAC this year. In the past I've shown my sculptures at the
Marin County Fair's Creatures and Models Exhibit judged by ILM (Industrial
Light and Magic, George Lucas's special effects copany). I've won first,
second, and third prize over the three years I entered and many honorable
mentions.

22) Are you a meat eater?
Yep, mostly poultry.

Being furry
-----------

23) How does furriness influence your life?
It influences it very strongly, especially since my totems have come
forward. I pay attention to the scents and sounds around me much more than
the average person and am much more sensitive to noises in the higher
range. One of the reasons I'm uncomfortable when at my parent's house is
I don't smell myself there anymore, I just smell them. I also want to be
in nature much more even though my "roughing it" ability is practically
nill.

24) Do you think about furriness more than anything else?
Not really, there are so many things racing around my head that I don't
think furryness can take up most of it. Though if pinned down I'm sure
most of my thoughts are influenced through my furryness.

25) Was your furriness evidence from a young age?
I remember in preschool wanting to be a cat because all they ever did was
lie in the sun and get petted and they were taken care of. When I was a
bit older I'd always get annoyed in the library looking for books about
animals as main characters. I'd look in the card catalog for titles that
had something to do with animals, find them only to realize that they had
nothing to do with animals. I still get annoyed in the SciFi/Fantasy book
sections with all books with wolf, dragon, or claw in the title that have
nothing but humans in them.

26) What do you like most/least about being furry now?
Most: I'd have to say finally having people who understand more of me
than most and the increased awareness of the world through all my senses.

Least: My increased awareness of the world through all my senses. Lots of
things stink and make annoying noises not to mention all the industrial
garbage that mucks with all your senses.

27) What is/are your 'totem' animal(s)?
My totem animals are Bear, Wolf, and Fox.

I first became open to the idea of totem animals when I was looking to
find faith in the christian church and failed. I went to sleep worried
that I'd never have anything to believe in and had a spirit dream. I was
in a forest and ran through it to a clearing by a small mountain. On top
of the mountain silhouted by a full moon was a canid shape (at the time I
took it to be Wolf but now realize it was Fox). It watched me for a split
second before jumping off the mountain and disappearing. In that second
though I felt a strong connection and something powerful outside myself,
which soon turned to fear that I had been abandoned.

I told this dream to many of my online friends on Furrymuck a few of them
weres. They pointed me in the direction of many good books and pages and
I learned a bit about wolf and how you were supposed to contact your
spirit guide. I wasn't very good at it at first but then I helped a witch
friend of mine perform a ritual. She lighted some candles and incense and
we were just supposed to open ourselves to the energies of nature. As I
watched the smoke from the incense I decided to try and contact my totem.
I laid back and tried to imagine myself in a clearing awaiting my totem,
suddenly I became a bear. I mentally shifted and thought just as a bear
even going as far as chewing/grooming my paws. My friend broke me out of
the trance when I had gotten up to lumber towards a stream and almost
knocked some candles over. Since then I've felt Bear's paw pressing on my
stomache a few times and have taken on many more of his characteristics. I
practically hibernated this winter and often find myself scratching my
back on corners or pillars like a bear does on trees.

Fox revealed herself recently in RL. I was walking to the dorms from work
late one night when I came across an animal in the quad. Thinking to
befriend another stray cat I made a few squeaks which caught it's
attention and got it to come closer as I walked towards it. The closer I
got the more I realized it wasn't a cat but a fox in an area that
supposedly had none. I got to within five feet of her and we just stood
watching each other for a few minutes before she trotted off. Since then
I've been looking up fox things and finding many of them matching me. The
ability to hide in plain sight, caution, and how to use hair to regulate
temperature. I have a long mane of hair that I wear down around my ears
when it's cold and pulled back in a tail when it's hot.

28) How, and when, did you realise your furriness?
I've known about it to some degree for as long as I can remember.

29) Was it by accident, or did you strive to discover why you felt this way?
Never really gave it much thought.

30) Do you think that your (human) body resembles, in any way, an animal?
(e.g. long, slender feet)
I've been told I resemble a wolf especially in my long purposeful stride.
I like to think I look a bit like a bear with all my fur but I'm a bit too
skinny to really resemble one. I used to be heavier in high school which
is where I got the name Fuzzybear. I've got lots of body hair but it's
very soft and fuzzy and I was very large (6'3" at that time and 260lbs) so
my friends nicknamed me Fuzzybear, it stuck. :) I'm now 6'5" and 210lbs.

31) Do you think that your personality resembles that of any animal/furry?
The bear most definitely. I sleep alot, gorge for one meal and then want
to sleep again. I have a tendency to want to swat things that annoy me
with my large paws. I also have a tendency to guzzle honey and stick it on
things that most people wouldn't dream of. :9

32) Would you prefer to not feel furry?
Sometimes when all the environmental garbage is annoying my senses and all
I can think is how I'm in the wrong body and not wanting to deal with the
human world anymore. I wouldn't want to feel furry because then I wouldn't
be noticing all those things that are upsetting me.

33) What kind of furry interests/hobbies do you have?
I look at and collect art, draw, sculpt, I would like to make a fursuit
and hope to make some Fuzzybear plushies soon, read comics, watch
cartoons, go to cons, go on mucks, read ALF and mailing lists.

34) Do you ever doubt how furry you are?
Sometimes, when I'm feeling really down I'll think I'm just making it all
up to make myself feel special or different from everyone else.

35) Are you ashamed/proud of being furry?
Depends who I'm with. I tend to reflect the moods of those around me. In
this group I'd have to say proud :)

36) Have you ever worried about your 'furriness'?
Not as such really.

37) Did you ever think you were childish/weird/confused?
I always think that :)

38) Did you every attempt to seek professional advice/write to a problem
page?
Yes and I still am but for Depression not for Furriness. I tend to
overworry about everything and devalue myself, I would like to get rid of
my self hatred and haven't been able to do so on my own so now I'm seeking
professional help. I try and keep all this from interfering too much in
what I do. I'd rather act happy and well in groups because then I can make
myself feel well.

39) Have you ever had a furry dream?
Yes, see #27

40) Do you have them on a regular basis?
Unfortunately no, but they do tend to happen around significant events
when I'm really feeling down. I had a dream with skunks when my first
VR relationship ended. I'm in a new one now which may turn out to be my
first RL relationship, I'll find out in July when I visit him in
Minnesota.

41) Do you wear 'furry' clothes? (not necessarily fursuits)
I almost always wear t-shirts that have animals on them. The few t-shirts
that don't have animals in them are related to furry though: Star Wars
(Chewbacca, Ewoks), Red Dwarf (Cat), and Renn Faire (Not really furry but
lots of furries in the SCA). I also have a leather outback hat I wear with
a silver fox tail. My other hats have furry pins on them, like Pepe Le
Pew, or feathers.

42) How do you act furry in public/in private/with friends?
(furry and non-furry friends)
I usually act the same level of furryness. More composed in public but
with friends I'll stretch on all fours arching my back while yawning or
scratch my back against walls as mentioned before. I'll also playfully
swat my friends too and whuff.

43) Do you collect items relating to your totem animal? e.g. statues,
plushies etc.
Yes!!! :) Quite a few plushies, posters, miniatures, books and anything
else I can get my paws on.

44) Do you collect miscellaneous furry items? e.g.books, magazines, etc
Sure do. Most comprehensive being my Pogo books and whatever furry comics
I can find. I can't wait til Buckles gets a book. :) I also have a few
prints by various furry artists.

45) Has a major event in your life ever been affected by your furriness,
or had a furry theme? e.g. a wedding
Not that I can tell.

46) Do you think you are furry for a reason, if so, why?
Again never gave it much thought and why should there be a reason?

Being 'truly' furry
-------------------

47) What would you most/least like about being 'truly' furry?
Most: Would be having the nice thick pelt of fur.

Least: Would be forgetting and getting my tail caught in doors and such.

48) Do you ever worry about being furry not being as you imagine?
Not really, my imagination can take some pessimistic turns so it's more a
question of worrying about being furry being as I imagine sometimes.

49) Would you worry about being shunned by society/friends/family if you
became 'truly' furry?
I'd be very worried about society, far too many humans with guns and not
much tolerance. As concerns friends and family I think they would come to
accept it, though a few might worry.

50) Would you (given the chance) live in a furry-only world?
No. Despite all it's faults I've grown rather attached to the people and
places of this one.

51) Would you become an animal/furry (assuming you could change back), given
the chance?
Of course.

52) Would you become an animal/furry (assuming you *couldn't* change back),
given the chance?
Probably not. I've come to accept my human body and I'm quite fond of my
thumbs.

53) Do you ever fantasise about being 'truly' furry?
For as long as I can remember. Cats when I was very small as they were the
only animals I had contact with. In middle school it switched to dragons
with more of a violent edge to it (it wasn't a nice middle school). Then
switching to bears in high school until now.

54) Describe your furry alter ego.
Here's the description of Fuzzybear from FurryMuck:

You see a six foot five huggaholic bear with a five foot tail. He has
soft, warm, fuzzy, brown fur which completely covers everything. From his
muzzle down to his slightly large tummy he has an area of lighter brown
fur. He likes to shamble along on all fours but will stand on his hind
legs in company and he also has opposable thumbs.
On his back you see a raggedy old black knapsack with a bear paw
insignia on it. You can see that it seems to be bursting with something
and from the sweet smells emanating from the bag you know that's it's
something good to eat. This is the only thing that Fuzzybear wears feeling
that his warm soft fur is enough for modesty and weather conditions
He turns about and you can see his strange eyes, at one moment
appearing to be a soft grey blue and the next seeming to be a light green.
He smiles kindly his eyes twinkling and reaches into his knapsack and
offers you a cup of chocohoney.

55) Is your furry alter ego a carnivore/vegetarian/ominvore?
An omnivore with a penchant for baked goods :)

Furry fandom
------------

56) What furry things do you watch/read? e.g. films, cartoons, books etc
About anything I can find.

Religion
--------

57) Are you religious?
Yes

58) What religion are you?
My own. It's a hodgepodge of so called christian values without the belief
in God, totemism, a strong belief in nature, and an ever shifting variety
of practices and values.

59) Do you think that being furry is like a religion?
To some, yes.

60) Does being furry make you question your religion/beliefs?
I'm always questioning my beliefs, whether this is a reflection of my
furriness or not who can say?

Other people
------------

61) Are there others in your family who are furry?
Not really though they all talk to the cats and have many animal pictures.

62) Do you worry about people knowing about your furriness?
Not really.

63) Are there people who are intolerant of your furry lifestyle?
Not really, there are are some people who get blank looks when I try to
explain it but not much else.

64) How do you cope with these people?
I stop trying to explain furriness to them and change the subject.

65) Do you know someone who might be furry, but isn't aware of it?
Quite a few.

66) How can you tell?
They like my pictures and have searched for other furry pictures on the
net and have even taken on a furry moniker.

67) Have you ever introduced somebody into furrydom?
Yes, two people though they've been fairly slow in getting involved.

68) Is your Significant Other furry?
[i.e. your girlfriend/boyfriend/husband/wife. Animals don't count!]
Well, he's a wallaby I met on FurryMuck if that tells you anything ;)

69) Do you think the world would be better if everyone was furry?
No, unless of course you were a plumber ;) Clogged drains everywhere.

The Internet
------------

70) What newsgroups do you subscribe to?
[please avoid abbreviations like afd, and include a brief description]
Alt.Lifestyle.Furry The only reason I figured out how to use the
mailserver in pine.

71) What furry-internet activities do you do?
I socialize on FurryMuck and Furtoonia, listen in on BAF: the Bay Area
Furry mailing list, and ASB: Associated Student Bodies mailing list, I
also regularly check out Yerf and visit other websites.

72) Do you access FurryMuck (or similar), to live out a virtual furry life?
Yes

73) How important do you think the Internet is in your furry lifestyle?
Extremely important. The only way i know what's going on and can find
other furries to talk with.

74) Do you access/did you join the Internet just for the furry stuff?
I first got online looking for Pogo stuff and now most all my net
activities are furry related. So I'd have to say yes :)

75) Do you have your own web page/FTP site?
I've got a section on Yerf at http://www.yerf.com/butljoel
One of these days I will learn HTML and make my own page.

76) What kind of things are on it?
Just my drawings with descriptions.

77) How did you discover the online furry community?
I was looking for pictures of Pepe LePew in late December of 96 and came
across Japhet's Stripey page (http://www.winternet.com/%7Estripey). It had
furry fiction, pictures, definitions and links galore. It was a gateway to
a whole new world that I knew must exist somewhere but hadn't found til
then. It was only a few weeks later that I was online at FurryMuck.

Furry community
---------------

78) How did you discover the furry community?
See #77

79) Are you glad that you discovered the 'furry community'?
Of course! :)

80) How have you benefited from the 'furry community'?
It gave me the urge to practice my art more and the models to improve.
It's opened my eyes to many possibilities I hadn't thought of before.

81) Have you met (real life) furries?
Yes :)

82) Do you often go to furry gatherings? e.g. Confurence, informal
gatherings
I went to AAC last year and will attend again this year. I also went to
CF9 though felt rather lost in the crowd at such a large event. I've been
to a few BAF gatherings also and would love to attend more. I will also be
attending KainCon before and after AAC.

83) What activities do you parcipitate with other furries in real life?
Tabletop roleplaying, drawing, playing frisbee, seeing movies, once even
Karaoke at AAC ;)

Animals
-------

84) Do you own any pets, or have access to animals? (stables etc)
My family has three cats: Melon a big fat mellow dude, Wolfgang (Wolfie) a
Ragdoll that looks like a wolf and acts like a squirell, and Fog a very
shy Siamese.

85) Would you like to own some pets, or have access to animals?
i would love my own cat but my apartment won't let you have animals unless
they're caged. I would love to have a ferret, which I could have in the
apartment, but they're still illegal in California :P

86) Do you work / have you ever worked / do you want to work with
animals/furries?
I've often thought of volunteering at the SPCA but I'm afraid I'd be
taking too much of my work home with me ;)

87) Do you 'bond' easily with animals?
Yes though as my own animal nature gets stronger I've noticed a few
animals become more cautious around me.

88) Do you agree with hunting?
If it's for food then it's ok but for any other reason it's not.

89) Are you concerned about the environment?
Yes for our own sakes but the planet will survive whatever we do to it as
many others have said.

90) About cruelty to animals?
I dislike cruelty to anything.

91) What are your favourite kinds of pet?
Cats and ferrets, I wish I could say dogs too but I'm too allergic to
them.

92) Are you interested in real animals as well as furries?
Yes

93) Do you have a greater-than-average knowledge of your totem animal(s)?
i.e. do you own books on wolves or foxes, etc.
Not yet but when I have time to read all the books on my totem animals
rather than just looking at all the pictures I will :)

94) Do you ever get annoyed about how animals (in particular, your totem
animal) are portrayed in fables/mythology?
Sometimes especially Wolf.

95) Have you ever/do you enjoy watching animals in the wild? e.g. lions
on safari, foxes in your backyard etc
I watch the raccoons that go across my parent's deck and the birds around
my college. I would like to go somewhere where there are more animals to
observe in nature. A dream trip would be to the Kodiak Islands.

96) What is your least favourite kind of animal/pet?
Fish and birds. You can't really pet or snuggle either of them and birds
are too noisy.

97) Do you read books/magazines/etc about totem animals, theriopomorphing
or animal thelogy etc?
Yes quite often.

Furry sexuality (yiffing)
-------------------------

98) How would you describe your sexuality?

You can either specify your answer as a number on a scale from 0-9:

0 = 'I'm not interested in this at all';
9 = 'I practice this a lot'

Or simply by checking the box:

X = 'Yes'

[ ] heterosexual
[ ] homosexual
[X] bisexual (heavily male biased)
[ ] transexual
[ ] group sex
[ ] outdoor sex
[ ] fur-suit sex (whilst dressed up in furry animal costumes)
[ ] zoo (with RL animals, may or may not be emotionally attached to them)
[ ] plushophile (loves and/or has sex with plushie animals)
[ ] toonophile (attracted to cartoon characters, especially furries)
[X] TS (TinySex - sex over the Internet, e.g. using FurryMuck or IRC)

99) Does outdoors sex make you feel more furry?
Still haven't had sex with a partner in RL but I would think outdoor sex
would make me feel furry.

100) Do you prefer humans, animals, plushies, furries, or are they equal?
I will only have sex with a sentient so that rules it down to humans and
furries

101) Is your sexual orientation with humans the same as it is with animals?
I have had some fantasies, that I wouldn't live out, with male bears so I
assume it to be the same hypothetically.

102) What are your favourite animals/characters for zoophilia /zoosexuality
/plushiophilia /toonophilia/ inflatable animal sex?
Bears and a certain wallaby, my VR significant other :)

103) In what aspects of your sexuality are you open?
Are non-furries aware of your furry sexuality (if appropriate)
A few of my college friends have seen some of the furry spooge I have.

104) Do you enjoy sex with animals and humans simultaneously?
N/A

105) Are any of your plushies anatomically correct?
No and I wouldn't have sex with my plushies as it would get them dirty and
I see them as more links to my childhood and innocence.

106) It is a common case for many furries to live thier lives as
heterosexual, and then through furry to discover their attraction for the
same sex, (be it same sex humans or furries) - is this the case with you?
Yep. I was in denial of all the yiffy thoughts I had about males until
coming online and making friends with a lot of gay and bi furries who
helped me realize that liking guys is ok.

107) Has your discovery of being furry made you re-evaluate your sexuality?
Definitely, see above.

108) Do you feel you are more open sexually due to furriness?
Very much so. Before furry I was a real prude but since coming into such a
relaxed and open community I've come to accept my own sexuality and stop
fighting it all the time.

109) Do you enjoy casual sex with furries/non furries?
No. I'm just not wired that way. I need to feel very close and in love
with someone before having sex with them. I still haven't found the right
person RL though I may have met him through the net. I'll find out when we
meet face to face in July after AAC.

110) Do you practice safe sex?
It depends on the partner. If we're both virgins and monogamous what's the
need?

111) How do your masturbation fantasies involve furries? (if appropriate)
Either my wallaby or bears in a natural setting. The rest is private ;)

112) Does sex in a fursuit make you feel more furry?
Haven't tried it. I imagine that I'd be too worried about how to clean up
my fursuit though to want to have sex with it.

113) Do you compare a relationship (sexual or not) as being analogous to a
pack or pride behaviour?
I haven't really thought about it before. I'll have to see when I finally
do get into a real relationship.

Well there's my furvey. :) *Fuzzybear brings out a tray he had hidden
behind his back* Bear Paws for everyfur who read this far :) Bear Paws, at
least the recipe I use, are a yummy pastry that smells like pumpkin pie
and tastes like a cross between ginger bread and madelienes with lots of
chocolate mixed in :9

Fuzzybear flexing fatigued fingers :)

_
"Procrastinators will rule the world...tomorrow"
"We put the Burro in Burrito!"
"Instant wisdom! Just add stupidity!" Joel Butler

Fuzzybear the hugaholic bear with tail from FurryMUCK and Furtoonia
http://www.yerf.com/butljoel/last.htm

Skytech

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May 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/30/98

Fuzzybear wrote:
>
> Finals are over! My turn to fill out one of these furvey thingamabobs :)
> I've posted once or twice already when I couldn't keep my muzzle shut but
> now I can really get to delurk and tell you about the subject I can babble
> the most about: myself ;)
>

Welcome to Homestead, oh ursine one! Fishsticks?

> 11) Where in the world do you live?
> Variable. During the School year I live in Turlock CA, which is in the
> Guiness Book of World Records for highest number of churches per capita.
> It also has the benefit of strong winds carrying that lovely dairy air.

Oh, *dairy air*! I thought... oh never mind.

I visualize *too* much!

>
> 22) Are you a meat eater?
> Yep, mostly poultry.
>

Yeah that's meat. Then again, why do they serve fish on
meatless Fridays?

> 27) What is/are your 'totem' animal(s)?
> My totem animals are Bear, Wolf, and Fox.
>

One third credit for good taste! :)

>
> Fox revealed herself recently in RL. I was walking to the dorms from work
> late one night when I came across an animal in the quad. Thinking to
> befriend another stray cat I made a few squeaks which caught it's
> attention and got it to come closer as I walked towards it. The closer I
> got the more I realized it wasn't a cat but a fox in an area that
> supposedly had none. I got to within five feet of her and we just stood
> watching each other for a few minutes before she trotted off. Since then
> I've been looking up fox things and finding many of them matching me. The
> ability to hide in plain sight, caution, and how to use hair to regulate
> temperature. I have a long mane of hair that I wear down around my ears
> when it's cold and pulled back in a tail when it's hot.
>

You lucky...!

>
> Well there's my furvey. :) *Fuzzybear brings out a tray he had hidden
> behind his back* Bear Paws for everyfur who read this far :) Bear Paws, at
> least the recipe I use, are a yummy pastry that smells like pumpkin pie
> and tastes like a cross between ginger bread and madelienes with lots of
> chocolate mixed in :9
>

Don't mind if I do. Thanks!
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Skytech

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On Fri, 29 May 1998 17:04:09 -0700, Fuzzybear <jbu...@toto.csustan.edu>
wrote:

> 5) What month/day were you born in?
>January 2

By Native American reconing, that would be during the Earth Renewal moon,
and the totems associated with it are Snow Goose, Quartz, Birch, and the
color White. The Spirit Keeper is Waboose, the Spirit Keeper of the North.
The elemental clan is Turtle (earth element)

> 9) What talents do you have?
>I can be at a party and no one will remember I was there, hiding in plain
>sight. I walk without making any noise which frightens people to find a
>6'5" guy next to them or behind them when they look.

*giggle* I can do that pretty well too. Once, during a high school
camping trip to the Grand Canyon, I slipped away from camp during the
night, while everyone was around the fire telling ghost stories. On this
trip, I'd brought a florescent lantern instead of a flashlight, and as I
returned, I was using it to find my way back. The way the lantern was
designed, it would illuminate everything in front of it, but nothing behind
it. Needless to say, this eerie glow floating quietly through the forest
startled the heck out of everyone.

Went I got to camp, everyone was surprised it was me, because they never
saw or heard me leave. They thought I was still there.

>It's been a
>long time since I used that talent though making mouse noises to attract
>critters works very well :)

Interestingly, I've had mice come up to me of their own accord. :)

>I also have tendency to appear older than I
>am, once in high school fellow students asked me what class I taught.

I've had that happen. When I was about 18, I went to the doctor, and when
the nurse called out my name, I walked up to her, and she looked down at
the chart and said, "No, this can't be right, it says here that you're only
18." Then she turned to another nurse and asked, "Doesn't he look like
he's about 30 or so?" :)

> 11) Where in the world do you live?
>Variable. During the School year I live in Turlock CA,

a.k.a. Turkey-lock. :) (Been through it MANY times)

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On Sat, 30 May 1998, Skytech wrote:

> Welcome to Homestead, oh ursine one! Fishsticks?

Thanks Skytech! No thank you on the fishsticks though. This bear is kinda
strange in that I don't like seafood *shrug*. Thanks for offering though
:)

> > 11) Where in the world do you live?
> > Variable. During the School year I live in Turlock CA, which is in the
> > Guiness Book of World Records for highest number of churches per capita.
> > It also has the benefit of strong winds carrying that lovely dairy air.

> Oh, *dairy air*! I thought... oh never mind.
> I visualize *too* much!

You can blame that one on my Grandma. She's got a bumpersticker on her car
saying "Come to Wisconsin and smell our dairy air!" :)

> > 22) Are you a meat eater?
> > Yep, mostly poultry.

> Yeah that's meat. Then again, why do they serve fish on
> meatless Fridays?

Meatless Fridays? Is that like when you run out of food money by the end
of the week? ;)

> > 27) What is/are your 'totem' animal(s)?
> > My totem animals are Bear, Wolf, and Fox.

> One third credit for good taste! :)

You mean Bear I'm sure ;) *chuckle*

> > Fox revealed herself recently in RL. I was walking to the dorms from work
> > late one night when I came across an animal in the quad. Thinking to
> > befriend another stray cat I made a few squeaks which caught it's
> > attention and got it to come closer as I walked towards it. The closer I
> > got the more I realized it wasn't a cat but a fox in an area that
> > supposedly had none. I got to within five feet of her and we just stood
> > watching each other for a few minutes before she trotted off. Since then
> > I've been looking up fox things and finding many of them matching me. The
> > ability to hide in plain sight, caution, and how to use hair to regulate
> > temperature. I have a long mane of hair that I wear down around my ears
> > when it's cold and pulled back in a tail when it's hot.

> You lucky...!

Lucky for seeing the fox or lucky for the hair or both? *Wondering how
lucky bear paws are ;)*

> > Well there's my furvey. :) *Fuzzybear brings out a tray he had hidden
> > behind his back* Bear Paws for everyfur who read this far :) Bear Paws, at
> > least the recipe I use, are a yummy pastry that smells like pumpkin pie
> > and tastes like a cross between ginger bread and madelienes with lots of
> > chocolate mixed in :9

> Don't mind if I do. Thanks!

Help youself :) I'm thinking of making a big batch and taking some with me
to AAC to share with friends there :)

Fuzzybear eagerly awaiting July :)

Fuzzybear

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May 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/31/98

On Sat, 30 May 1998, WebKitty wrote:

> Welcome Fuzzybear! Would you like some Oreos? :)

Thanks Webkitty! I'd love some. BTW do you remember Prismo? You and he
seem to share this Oreo compulsion :)

> <snip>

> > 3) What zodiac sign are you?
> > Capricorn

> Yeah! Capricorn. The best furs are Capricorns! ;)

Oh there are quite a few good furs with Birthdays in July too :) *thinking
of very close furiends he's going to be seeing near their birthdays*

> <snip>

> > 8) What do you do for a living?
> > Professional procrastinator and BS artist, ie college student.

> Ah, BS...the desperate student's last resort in essay-writing. But it works...

One wonders why they even bother calling a college degree a BA when it's
really a BS ;)

> <snip>

> > 25) Was your furriness evidence from a young age?
> > I remember in preschool wanting to be a cat because all they ever did was
> > lie in the sun and get petted and they were taken care of.

> *chuckle* It's a hard life being a cat...I should know. ;)

*picturing a group of cats on stage singing* o/~ It's a hard cat's life
fur us. It's a hard cat's life fur us! o/~ ;)

> <snip>

> Oooooh! Thanks! *snatch* *munch* Mmmmmm...free goo....

You're welcome. :) Free goo? I must have forgotten to put that batch in
the oven! o_O

Fuzzybear looking worriedly at his tray for any more uncooked treats

Fuzzybear

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On Sun, 31 May 1998, Captain Packrat wrote:

> > 5) What month/day were you born in?
> >January 2

> By Native American reconing, that would be during the Earth Renewal moon,
> and the totems associated with it are Snow Goose, Quartz, Birch, and the
> color White. The Spirit Keeper is Waboose, the Spirit Keeper of the North.
> The elemental clan is Turtle (earth element)

Yeah and Bear is West in that system, so I'm North with West. Which is
interesting since according to the Druid Animal Oracle Bear is Northwest.

> *giggle* I can do that pretty well too. Once, during a high school
> camping trip to the Grand Canyon, I slipped away from camp during the
> night, while everyone was around the fire telling ghost stories. On this
> trip, I'd brought a florescent lantern instead of a flashlight, and as I
> returned, I was using it to find my way back. The way the lantern was
> designed, it would illuminate everything in front of it, but nothing behind
> it. Needless to say, this eerie glow floating quietly through the forest
> startled the heck out of everyone.
> Went I got to camp, everyone was surprised it was me, because they never
> saw or heard me leave. They thought I was still there.

That must of been fun :) I sometimes get annoyed at this ability because
those screams can get pretty loud when right next to your ear. I've been
working on making more noise when I walk lately.

> >It's been a
> >long time since I used that talent though making mouse noises to attract
> >critters works very well :)

> Interestingly, I've had mice come up to me of their own accord. :)

I've never attracted mice. I meant the larger animals that hunt mice,
things like cats, foxes, falcons, etc. Though I'd keep any from trying to
come after you Cap :)

> >I also have tendency to appear older than I
> >am, once in high school fellow students asked me what class I taught.

> I've had that happen. When I was about 18, I went to the doctor, and when
> the nurse called out my name, I walked up to her, and she looked down at
> the chart and said, "No, this can't be right, it says here that you're only
> 18." Then she turned to another nurse and asked, "Doesn't he look like
> he's about 30 or so?" :)

It annoyed my sister who's four years older than me. She was showing me
around her college two years ago and everyone thought that I was the one
giving her the tour :)

> > 11) Where in the world do you live?
> >Variable. During the School year I live in Turlock CA,

> a.k.a. Turkey-lock. :) (Been through it MANY times)

You were wise not to stop :)

Fuzzybear stretching his sore arms from moving out of the dorms today.
Unpacking can wait til tomorrow *yawn*

Swamp Gator

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Fuzzybear <jbu...@toto.csustan.edu> wrote

>Finals are over! My turn to fill out one of these furvey thingamabobs :)
>I've posted once or twice already when I couldn't keep my muzzle shut but
>now I can really get to delurk and tell you about the subject I can babble
>the most about: myself ;)

Hullo Fuzzybear..welcome to homestead :)

> 7) What interests/hobbies do you have?
>Sculpting, acting, drawing, reading, collecting Stuff! (plushies, swords,
>comicbooks, miniatures, Pogo books, real hats: not ball caps...), hanging
>out with friends, fencing when I can, playing trombone, and many more
>things.

Another musician..we will be able to start a band before much longer
hehe.

>discovered are linked to my fox totem, more on that later..

I can do that too, I am well over 6' and of a fairly heavy build but can
move silently when I want to...useful for creeping past my bosses office
door if I want to leave work early ;)

>
> 10) What annoys you the most, in general?
>When people show no respect for others, whether it takes the form of
>intolerance or "marking" the toilet seat. I almost never show my annoyance
>though. (Wisconsin German mother)

I can relate to almost never showing annoyance myself. I find its always
generally better to just smile politely and keep calm. On the few
occasions I have lost my cool it always seems to be me who is the one
who actually suffers most by the loss of temper.

>
> 18) Do you draw/write/make furry things?
>I draw furries and most of my sculptures are critters, usually dragons as
>they're such fun to make :) I would write furry stories if I ever got the
>muse long enough. I've had one story in my head for five years now that
>won't go away.

I love stories and if you ever want to share it I'd love to read it.

>
> 25) Was your furriness evidence from a young age?
>I remember in preschool wanting to be a cat because all they ever did was
>lie in the sun and get petted and they were taken care of. When I was a
>bit older I'd always get annoyed in the library looking for books about
>animals as main characters. I'd look in the card catalog for titles that
>had something to do with animals, find them only to realize that they had
>nothing to do with animals. I still get annoyed in the SciFi/Fantasy book
>sections with all books with wolf, dragon, or claw in the title that have
>nothing but humans in them.

My furriness was evident from an early age too. Once when I was a very
young child my parents took me to a wildlife park and I really really
wanted to see the wolves and I was bitterly dissapointed when my parents
said that we didn't have time...I was almost in tears and that memory
has never left me...oh well it doesn't matter as now I can sit down and
_chat_ with plenty of wolves here at homestead.

>
>Here's the description of Fuzzybear from FurryMuck:
>
> You see a six foot five huggaholic bear with a five foot tail. He has
>soft, warm, fuzzy, brown fur which completely covers everything. From his
>muzzle down to his slightly large tummy he has an area of lighter brown
>fur. He likes to shamble along on all fours but will stand on his hind
>legs in company and he also has opposable thumbs.
> On his back you see a raggedy old black knapsack with a bear paw
>insignia on it. You can see that it seems to be bursting with something
>and from the sweet smells emanating from the bag you know that's it's
>something good to eat. This is the only thing that Fuzzybear wears feeling
>that his warm soft fur is enough for modesty and weather conditions
> He turns about and you can see his strange eyes, at one moment
>appearing to be a soft grey blue and the next seeming to be a light green.
>He smiles kindly his eyes twinkling and reaches into his knapsack and
>offers you a cup of chocohoney.

Offer accepted....thankyou :)

>
> Religion
> --------
>
> 57) Are you religious?
>Yes
>
> 58) What religion are you?
>My own. It's a hodgepodge of so called christian values without the belief
>in God, totemism, a strong belief in nature, and an ever shifting variety
>of practices and values.
>
> 59) Do you think that being furry is like a religion?
>To some, yes.
>
> 60) Does being furry make you question your religion/beliefs?
>I'm always questioning my beliefs, whether this is a reflection of my
>furriness or not who can say?

I attempted to gain a better understanding of life and myself through
attending church (Baptist), but I just did not really feel comfortable
with mainstream religion. Nowadays I tend to see myself as spiritual as
opposed to religious. My spirituality is something I find very difficult
to define but it seems to be biased towards Taoism and other Eastern
Philosophies. I feel that my furriness is an integral part of my
spirituality, and as is the case with you, a firm faith in nature.

>
>
> 74) Do you access/did you join the Internet just for the furry stuff?
>I first got online looking for Pogo stuff and now most all my net
>activities are furry related. So I'd have to say yes :)

I had to smile when I read this one as I too originally got on the net
mainly for music stuff and email etc but now I only ever use it for
furry related activities (hehe) :)

>
>
>Well there's my furvey. :) *Fuzzybear brings out a tray he had hidden
>behind his back* Bear Paws for everyfur who read this far :) Bear Paws, at
>least the recipe I use, are a yummy pastry that smells like pumpkin pie
>and tastes like a cross between ginger bread and madelienes with lots of
>chocolate mixed in :9

Yummy. I've enjoyed reading your furvey Fuzzybear, again welcome to
homestead and look forward to chatting with you later.

See Ya <Hugs>

Swampy

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Duncan da Husky

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May 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/31/98

In article <Pine.OSF.3.96.980526...@toto.csustan.edu>,
Fuzzybear says...

> Finals are over! My turn to fill out one of these furvey thingamabobs :)

<da Husky does a double take> Hey, A familiar face! (from ASB-L, that is)
Howdy, Fuzzy!

Y'know, that happened to me, but the only residual effect is that my
handwriting is and has always been atrocious. One more reason to stick to
keyboards :-)

> 15) Is your living space (e.g. room/house/apartment etc) furry themed?
> *looks around at his walls covered in posters of bears, wolves, and foxes;
> his bed covered in plushies with the looney tunes throw and the Fuzzybear
> pillow one of his friends made for him, plus all the little figures of
> bears and such on his desk and the beanie bears he uses as wrist cushions
> when he types* Nah ;)

Hey, that sounds pretty nifty! (I like the wrist cushion idea)

> 16) What kind of music do you like?
> Musicals (huge Sondheim fan), soundtracks, 80's music, celtic, celtic
> rock, Weird Al, Tom Lehrer, Capitol Steps, (should probably just lump
> those last three into humor), big band, jazz, ska, classical, period,
> cartoons, and probably just about anything that isn't rap or country.

"Period"? Oooh - Celtic and Celtic Rock, good stuff. I assume we're
talking about goodies like Wolfstone, Fairport Convention, and Steeleye
Span, right?

> 21) Have they been shown somewhere ? (Avatar, newgroups, web pages, comics,
> fanzines)
> My drawings are on Yerf, Yiffco, and probably a few others.

Hmm - I'll have to wander over and take a look.

> 41) Do you wear 'furry' clothes? (not necessarily fursuits)

> I almost always wear t-shirts that have animals on them. [...] Renn Faire (Not really furry but

> lots of furries in the SCA).

<chuckle> Yes, I'd heard that rumor ;-)

> 58) What religion are you?
> My own. It's a hodgepodge of so called christian values without the belief
> in God, totemism, a strong belief in nature, and an ever shifting variety
> of practices and values.

<da Husky looks puzzled for a moment, then looks down at his clipboard>
"Um, I'll just put you down as 'eclectic.'" :-)

> Well there's my furvey. :) *Fuzzybear brings out a tray he had hidden
> behind his back* Bear Paws for everyfur who read this far :) Bear Paws, at
> least the recipe I use, are a yummy pastry that smells like pumpkin pie
> and tastes like a cross between ginger bread and madelienes with lots of
> chocolate mixed in :9

It has chocolate, so it must be good! Yum!

Welcome, friend bear!

-Duncan da Husky, who really needs some coffee this morning...

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cat...@I.ain't.gonna.play.spamcity.usa.net (WebKitty) wrote:

>In article <Pine.OSF.3.96.980526...@toto.csustan.edu>,
>Fuzzybear <jbu...@toto.csustan.edu> wrote:
><snip>

>> 3) What zodiac sign are you?
>> Capricorn
>

>Yeah! Capricorn. The best furs are Capricorns! ;)

We like to think so...<chuckle> Sorry, couldn't let that one get by
me...

><snip>

>> 8) What do you do for a living?
>> Professional procrastinator and BS artist, ie college student.
>

>Ah, BS...the desperate student's last resort in essay-writing. But it works...

Yep, don't knock it. I wouldn't have passed one of my history classes
without it...

Michael Tyger
ICQ #11303837
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Need to run rampant and free!
Predators live by the prey they pursue
This time, the predator's ME!"
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Michael Tyger

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On Fri, 29 May 1998 17:04:09 -0700, Fuzzybear
<jbu...@toto.csustan.edu> wrote:

> 4) What year were you born in, and what is your Chinese New Year animal?
>1978 Earth Snake (January is before the Chinese New Year switches,
>otherwise I'd be horse like all the others born in 78)

I had the same problem. A few days later, I would've been Goat
instead of Horse. Was still hoping for tiger...<sigh>

> 6) Are you left handed or right handed?
>Right dominant though I used to be ambidextrous until I learned my left
>from my right (sort of) and was trained out of it in Kindergarten. I'm
>told I'd be drawing with one hand get tired and switch to the other. I
>remember being very confused when trying to figure out my right and left
>when they told me my right was the hand I wrote with and I could never
>figure out which one that was since I used both. I still have trouble with
>left and right and just point when giving directions. Makes it hard when I
>have to give them on the phone ;) "Turn umm...*gesturing with his hand*
>that way"

Pretty much how I am. Freaks folx out when I switch hands when I'm
playing pool, and make the shot...And I can't give directions to save
my life. Not that I always _want_ to...the last tourista who stopped
me and asked me, "Which way to the water?" <shudder> "This's an
island, nimrod. We're surrounded by it. Pick a direction."

> 8) What do you do for a living?
>Professional procrastinator and BS artist, ie college student. I work in
>the Mac lab during school and do day labor for contractors during the
>Summer, the manual labor pays better :)

Mine was a PC lab, but that's part of what I did to make ends meet
during college. The manual labor (well, not really, I was a file
clerk/data entry tech) came two other days out of the week.

> 13) Do you consider yourself to be psychic, in any way?
>Somewhat. I've had one precognitive dream that was true to the
>smallest detail. The dream occured exactly as if it were real and came
>true the next day. I've been able to finish others sentences and know what
>they're thinking but that's more due to familiarity than psychic skills. I
>have been told by friends who practice magic that I have a very strong
>power that can be overwhelming. One of these days I'll have to figure out
>how to use it.

If you do, since I have the same kinda powers, lemme know where you
got your lessons. I could use some.

> 16) What kind of music do you like?
>Musicals (huge Sondheim fan), soundtracks, 80's music, celtic, celtic
>rock, Weird Al, Tom Lehrer, Capitol Steps, (should probably just lump
>those last three into humor), big band, jazz, ska, classical, period,
>cartoons, and probably just about anything that isn't rap or country.

Kewl! Another musical fan! What musicals have you seen? My list
could fill a volume...

> 18) Do you draw/write/make furry things?
>I draw furries and most of my sculptures are critters, usually dragons as
>they're such fun to make :) I would write furry stories if I ever got the
>muse long enough. I've had one story in my head for five years now that
>won't go away.

<scratches head in puzzlement> Why would you want it to go away?
'Course, I'm a writer, so I'm biased...

> 22) Are you a meat eater?
>Yep, mostly poultry.

Hmmm...should I ask if you raid the chicken coops yourself? Nahh...

> 27) What is/are your 'totem' animal(s)?
>My totem animals are Bear, Wolf, and Fox.

This is what prompted the jibe about the chicken coops...<G>

> 30) Do you think that your (human) body resembles, in any way, an animal?
> (e.g. long, slender feet)
>I've been told I resemble a wolf especially in my long purposeful stride.
>I like to think I look a bit like a bear with all my fur but I'm a bit too
>skinny to really resemble one. I used to be heavier in high school which
>is where I got the name Fuzzybear. I've got lots of body hair but it's
>very soft and fuzzy and I was very large (6'3" at that time and 260lbs) so
>my friends nicknamed me Fuzzybear, it stuck. :) I'm now 6'5" and 210lbs.

Good grief, you _are_ skinny...Here! Plenty of goodies around here!
Eat something!

> 31) Do you think that your personality resembles that of any animal/furry?
>The bear most definitely. I sleep alot, gorge for one meal and then want
>to sleep again. I have a tendency to want to swat things that annoy me
>with my large paws. I also have a tendency to guzzle honey and stick it on
>things that most people wouldn't dream of. :9

I have _got_ to have an example of that...! 'Course, I recently
received an offer to be turned into a honey-flavored lollipop...<VEG>

> 47) What would you most/least like about being 'truly' furry?
>Most: Would be having the nice thick pelt of fur.
>
>Least: Would be forgetting and getting my tail caught in doors and such.

One of my favorite comic book quotes, from Nightcrawler (X-men):
"When you have a tail, you learn to go through doors _fast_!"

> 69) Do you think the world would be better if everyone was furry?
>No, unless of course you were a plumber ;) Clogged drains everywhere.

<chuckle> As I recently said to a fellow fur on ICQ: "Hey, c'mon,
humans have their uses! Somebody's gotta keep the plumbing
working..." GMTA, I guess!

> 86) Do you work / have you ever worked / do you want to work with
> animals/furries?
>I've often thought of volunteering at the SPCA but I'm afraid I'd be
>taking too much of my work home with me ;)

Yeah, I think they might object if they find their critters all going
home with you <G>

> 106) It is a common case for many furries to live thier lives as
> heterosexual, and then through furry to discover their attraction for the
> same sex, (be it same sex humans or furries) - is this the case with you?
>Yep. I was in denial of all the yiffy thoughts I had about males until
>coming online and making friends with a lot of gay and bi furries who
>helped me realize that liking guys is ok.

Kewl.

>Well there's my furvey. :) *Fuzzybear brings out a tray he had hidden
>behind his back* Bear Paws for everyfur who read this far :) Bear Paws, at
>least the recipe I use, are a yummy pastry that smells like pumpkin pie
>and tastes like a cross between ginger bread and madelienes with lots of
>chocolate mixed in :9

Hmm, I dunno...never trust a skinny cook...Just kidding, hand 'em
over! Yum!

Michael Tyger
--oops, did I say "Welcome!" erg, I didn't--Welcome!!

Skytech

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May 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/31/98

Fuzzybear wrote:
>
> On Sat, 30 May 1998, Skytech wrote:
>
> > Welcome to Homestead, oh ursine one! Fishsticks?
> Thanks Skytech! No thank you on the fishsticks though. This bear is kinda
> strange in that I don't like seafood *shrug*. Thanks for offering though
> :)
>

What seafood? I caught the catfish over in the lake.

Ah well. Let's check out the buffet table for other goodies.

--
La kasigada vulpo
Skytech

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HPickands

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Jun 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/1/98

In article <Pine.OSF.3.96.980531...@toto.csustan.edu>,
Fuzzybear <jbu...@toto.csustan.edu> writes:

>> > 8) What do you do for a living?
>> > Professional procrastinator and BS artist, ie college student.

>> Ah, BS...the desperate student's last resort in essay-writing. But it
>works...

A fellow wielder of The Golden Pitchfork! Flinging "stuff" hard and fast is
how I survived freshman English Comp. :)

>One wonders why they even bother calling a college degree a BA when it's
>really a BS ;)

:) The thingie on my wall says that I have a BS in BA, so I guess I have the
best of both worlds.

Welcome to ALF Fuzzybear. Always nice to have another auspicious ursine around
the place

Harry Bear,
31 days and counting. :)

Fuzzybear

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Jun 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/1/98

On Sun, 31 May 1998, Swamp Gator wrote:

> Hullo Fuzzybear..welcome to homestead :)

Thanks Swampgator :)

> Another musician..we will be able to start a band before much longer
> hehe.

You'll have to give me a few months. It's been two years since I last
played trombone so my chops are pretty out of shape. I'm going to be
starting up again this Fall semester though. Bear with a bone :)

> > 9) What talents do you have?
> >I can be at a party and no one will remember I was there, hiding in plain
> >sight. I walk without making any noise which frightens people to find a
> >6'5" guy next to them or behind them when they look. My dorm roommate has
> >had many near heart attacks due to this talent. These two I've recently
> >discovered are linked to my fox totem, more on that later..
> I can do that too, I am well over 6' and of a fairly heavy build but can
> move silently when I want to...useful for creeping past my bosses office
> door if I want to leave work early ;)

Hehe :) Couldn't do that at my maclab job as I'm the only one in there
most of the time and I need to keep an eye on the students. Working for
contractors you don't get paid til the end of the day so you have to wait
on that too. But I can sneak out of any party ;)

> I can relate to almost never showing annoyance myself. I find its always
> generally better to just smile politely and keep calm. On the few
> occasions I have lost my cool it always seems to be me who is the one
> who actually suffers most by the loss of temper.

*nods* I can understand. The three times I've ever really got angry
someone has always been there to hold me back so I haven't done anything
but make the people bugging me too frightened to do it again. Then I go
out in the yard and hack some fennel or something else that does damage
without really doing damage.

> I love stories and if you ever want to share it I'd love to read it.

Well the one story I doubt I'll ever write out but I do have one very
short story that involves a Wyrm and a knight. If furries want to read it
I could post it.

> My furriness was evident from an early age too. Once when I was a very
> young child my parents took me to a wildlife park and I really really
> wanted to see the wolves and I was bitterly dissapointed when my parents
> said that we didn't have time...I was almost in tears and that memory
> has never left me...oh well it doesn't matter as now I can sit down and
> _chat_ with plenty of wolves here at homestead.

*nod* In an earlier post I talked about my experience with the White Tiger
Prince Charlie who recently died. But it is quite a pleasure to talk to so
many furs here at homestead :)

> > He turns about and you can see his strange eyes, at one moment
> >appearing to be a soft grey blue and the next seeming to be a light green.
> >He smiles kindly his eyes twinkling and reaches into his knapsack and
> >offers you a cup of chocohoney.
> Offer accepted....thankyou :)

You're welcome. :) If you're wondering chocohoney is a mixture of equal
parts honey and cocoa powder. An interesting treat.

> I attempted to gain a better understanding of life and myself through
> attending church (Baptist), but I just did not really feel comfortable
> with mainstream religion. Nowadays I tend to see myself as spiritual as
> opposed to religious. My spirituality is something I find very difficult
> to define but it seems to be biased towards Taoism and other Eastern
> Philosophies. I feel that my furriness is an integral part of my
> spirituality, and as is the case with you, a firm faith in nature.

Mine leans towards the golden rule type of christian values and native
american and druidic animal views. As I said though originally it's ever
shifting based on what new truths I find and what old dogmas I leave
behind.

> > 74) Do you access/did you join the Internet just for the furry stuff?
> >I first got online looking for Pogo stuff and now most all my net
> >activities are furry related. So I'd have to say yes :)
> I had to smile when I read this one as I too originally got on the net
> mainly for music stuff and email etc but now I only ever use it for
> furry related activities (hehe) :)

It's all just a giant furry conspiracy! ;)

> >Well there's my furvey. :) *Fuzzybear brings out a tray he had hidden
> >behind his back* Bear Paws for everyfur who read this far :) Bear Paws, at
> >least the recipe I use, are a yummy pastry that smells like pumpkin pie
> >and tastes like a cross between ginger bread and madelienes with lots of
> >chocolate mixed in :9
> Yummy. I've enjoyed reading your furvey Fuzzybear, again welcome to
> homestead and look forward to chatting with you later.

Thanks, I too hope to chat again. I've visited your stomping grounds
twice, though probably a bit further north (stayed with a family friend in
Carlysle, probably spelled that wrong)

> See Ya <Hugs>
>
> Swampy

Fuzzybear fuzzyhugs a friendly gator :)

Fuzzybear

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Jun 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/1/98

On Sun, 31 May 1998, Duncan da Husky wrote:

> <da Husky does a double take> Hey, A familiar face! (from ASB-L, that is)
> Howdy, Fuzzy!

Howdy Husky :) I actually saw your posts here before you started showing
up on ASB. Just hadn't felt I'd earned my time to delurk til now.

> Y'know, that happened to me, but the only residual effect is that my
> handwriting is and has always been atrocious. One more reason to stick to
> keyboards :-)

*nods* People often mistake my printing for a first graders scrawl :)
Better than having doctor's scrawl though. That no one can read ;)

> > 15) Is your living space (e.g. room/house/apartment etc) furry themed?
> > *looks around at his walls covered in posters of bears, wolves, and foxes;
> > his bed covered in plushies with the looney tunes throw and the Fuzzybear
> > pillow one of his friends made for him, plus all the little figures of
> > bears and such on his desk and the beanie bears he uses as wrist cushions
> > when he types* Nah ;)

> Hey, that sounds pretty nifty! (I like the wrist cushion idea)

That was a matter of neccesity. I noticed my wrists were getting red and
hard from resting on the laptops base so I decided to take these small
beanie bears that are like pillows and solve that problem. Also makes my
computer more furry :)

> > 16) What kind of music do you like?
> > Musicals (huge Sondheim fan), soundtracks, 80's music, celtic, celtic
> > rock, Weird Al, Tom Lehrer, Capitol Steps, (should probably just lump
> > those last three into humor), big band, jazz, ska, classical, period,
> > cartoons, and probably just about anything that isn't rap or country.

> "Period"? Oooh - Celtic and Celtic Rock, good stuff. I assume we're
> talking about goodies like Wolfstone, Fairport Convention, and Steeleye
> Span, right?

Period is stuff like Music for Shakespeare and the Art of the Bawdy song
and stuff like that. I don't really know what to call it. As for celtic
rock I just know about Tempest as they played for my college. I'll have to
look for the ones you mentioned though so I can find more goodies :)

> > 21) Have they been shown somewhere ? (Avatar, newgroups, web pages, comics,
> > fanzines)
> > My drawings are on Yerf, Yiffco, and probably a few others.

> Hmm - I'll have to wander over and take a look.

Also somewhere in that mass of drawings is my one RL picture on the net of
me in my Stewart kilt with my celtic long sword (taken before I got my
early claymore). Also the one picture of my mate and I kissing is one that
I got some homophobic email on which I started a lot of conversations with
on ASB. I left the furs name out. I was just hurt at the time and wanted
someone to say the email was wrong.

> > 41) Do you wear 'furry' clothes? (not necessarily fursuits)

> > I almost always wear t-shirts that have animals on them. [...] Renn Faire (Not really furry but

> > lots of furries in the SCA).

> <chuckle> Yes, I'd heard that rumor ;-)

It was from reading your posts along with Ambergold's and Gwynvyd's that
made me decide to put that there :)

> > 58) What religion are you?
> > My own. It's a hodgepodge of so called christian values without the belief
> > in God, totemism, a strong belief in nature, and an ever shifting variety
> > of practices and values.

> <da Husky looks puzzled for a moment, then looks down at his clipboard>
> "Um, I'll just put you down as 'eclectic.'" :-)

Works for me. :)

> It has chocolate, so it must be good! Yum!

Beware the death by chocolate dessert ;)

> Welcome, friend bear!

Thanks friend husky!

> -Duncan da Husky, who really needs some coffee this morning...

Fuzzybear handing some chocolate covered coffee beans over :)

David Glover

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Jun 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/1/98

In article <Pine.OSF.3.96.980526...@toto.csustan.edu>,
Fuzzybear <jbu...@toto.csustan.edu> wrote:

> 1978 Earth Snake (January is before the Chinese New Year switches,
> otherwise I'd be horse like all the others born in 78)

Really? Oh. Guess that means I'm not Monkey then! :)

When *does* it change?

... "In a word - im-possible!" "That's two words", said Dibbler.
--
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Armchair captain of the USS RedShift. Real e-mail: glover(at)argonet.co.uk
FurCode: FFL2a A+ C- D+ H+ M- P++ R++ T+++ W- Z- Sm# | ICQ#1104026 ZFC A
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Fuzzybear

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Jun 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/2/98

On Sun, 31 May 1998, Michael Tyger wrote:

> > 4) What year were you born in, and what is your Chinese New Year animal?
> >1978 Earth Snake (January is before the Chinese New Year switches,
> >otherwise I'd be horse like all the others born in 78)
> I had the same problem. A few days later, I would've been Goat
> instead of Horse. Was still hoping for tiger...<sigh>

It's not a problem for me. I feel no connection towards horses yet I do
feel some towards dragons and a snake is close enough. :)

> > 6) Are you left handed or right handed?
> >Right dominant though I used to be ambidextrous until I learned my left
> >from my right (sort of) and was trained out of it in Kindergarten. I'm
> >told I'd be drawing with one hand get tired and switch to the other. I
> >remember being very confused when trying to figure out my right and left
> >when they told me my right was the hand I wrote with and I could never
> >figure out which one that was since I used both. I still have trouble with
> >left and right and just point when giving directions. Makes it hard when I
> >have to give them on the phone ;) "Turn umm...*gesturing with his hand*
> >that way"
> Pretty much how I am. Freaks folx out when I switch hands when I'm
> playing pool, and make the shot...And I can't give directions to save
> my life. Not that I always _want_ to...the last tourista who stopped
> me and asked me, "Which way to the water?" <shudder> "This's an
> island, nimrod. We're surrounded by it. Pick a direction."

When I play pool the only shots I make are the cue ball into the pocket ;)
I do have a nice wood dragon headed cue so that I can at least look good
while losing ;) As for stupid questions see the next section.

> > 8) What do you do for a living?
> >Professional procrastinator and BS artist, ie college student. I work in
> >the Mac lab during school and do day labor for contractors during the
> >Summer, the manual labor pays better :)
> Mine was a PC lab, but that's part of what I did to make ends meet
> during college. The manual labor (well, not really, I was a file
> clerk/data entry tech) came two other days out of the week.

In the maclab I get lots of questions even I consider stupid and I'm
almost techno illiterate. The one that really got me was this person
complaining that their disk wasn't working. They were trying to insert an
old 5" PC floppy into a mac. I was sorely tempted to tell them to fold it
in half to make it fit ;)

> > 13) Do you consider yourself to be psychic, in any way?
> >Somewhat. I've had one precognitive dream that was true to the
> >smallest detail. The dream occured exactly as if it were real and came
> >true the next day. I've been able to finish others sentences and know what
> >they're thinking but that's more due to familiarity than psychic skills. I
> >have been told by friends who practice magic that I have a very strong
> >power that can be overwhelming. One of these days I'll have to figure out
> >how to use it.
> If you do, since I have the same kinda powers, lemme know where you
> got your lessons. I could use some.

I'll be sure to tell you if I ever do learn control of it.

> Kewl! Another musical fan! What musicals have you seen? My list
> could fill a volume...

Let's see, starting with my favorites then going down to just things I
remember it's still a fairly large list. Into the Woods (Fairy tales with
an anatomically correct big bad wolf costume), City of Angels (good noir
style), Secret Garden, Sweeney Todd, Assassins, Return to the Forbidden
Planet (classic rock and roll and Shakespeare), Phantom of the Opera,
Cats, Follies, Funny Thing Happened on the way to the Forum, Starlight
Express, Joseph: & the AT Dreamcoat, Insurrection:Holding History,
Forbidden Broadway, Song of Singapore, Pippen, Godspell,...

> > 18) Do you draw/write/make furry things?
> >I draw furries and most of my sculptures are critters, usually dragons as
> >they're such fun to make :) I would write furry stories if I ever got the
> >muse long enough. I've had one story in my head for five years now that
> >won't go away.
> <scratches head in puzzlement> Why would you want it to go away?
> 'Course, I'm a writer, so I'm biased...

Because it's not likely to ever get written and it's such a bad mishmash
of genre's. Basically it's Star Wars meets WW2 meets furries. The many
planets of furries have just discovered the records of the original food
chains and paranoia insues. A rabbit named Bundolf Hoppler takes command
and seperates the societies into the Herbivores and the carnivores,
setting the herbivores up as the good and the carnivores as those that
need to be exterminated to save the numerically superior herbivores from
the "threat" of meat eaters. Omnivores are forced to register but are
mainly free, for now. The main character is a Snow Leopard who watches his
family die at the hands of a herbivore purification squad. He grows up to
become a fighter pilot with the carnivore resistance helped out by the
omnivores and herbivore sympathizers. Lots of space battles and stuff.

See it's all pretty confused and cliche yet I can't get it to stop popping
up. I came up with the idea when I was in a grumpy mood about all the
vegetarian friends of mine trying to convert me to their ways ;)

> > 22) Are you a meat eater?
> >Yep, mostly poultry.
> Hmmm...should I ask if you raid the chicken coops yourself? Nahh...

*in fox incarnation nonchalantly spitting out feathers* Who me? ;)

> >I've been told I resemble a wolf especially in my long purposeful stride.
> >I like to think I look a bit like a bear with all my fur but I'm a bit too
> >skinny to really resemble one. I used to be heavier in high school which
> >is where I got the name Fuzzybear. I've got lots of body hair but it's
> >very soft and fuzzy and I was very large (6'3" at that time and 260lbs) so
> >my friends nicknamed me Fuzzybear, it stuck. :) I'm now 6'5" and 210lbs.
> Good grief, you _are_ skinny...Here! Plenty of goodies around here!
> Eat something!

Im not _that_ skinny! I've still got some comfy padding for when I find my
snuggle partner :) Most of the weight loss came from just eliminating
sodas from my diet. I'm now so unused to them I can't really even drink
them anymore. I will help myself to the goody tables though *YUM* :9

> > 31) Do you think that your personality resembles that of any animal/furry?
> >The bear most definitely. I sleep alot, gorge for one meal and then want
> >to sleep again. I have a tendency to want to swat things that annoy me
> >with my large paws. I also have a tendency to guzzle honey and stick it on
> >things that most people wouldn't dream of. :9
> I have _got_ to have an example of that...! 'Course, I recently
> received an offer to be turned into a honey-flavored lollipop...<VEG>

*Chuckle* Well for some of the things I've gotten "Ewww"s for: french
fries, fried chicken, and can't remember any other things that I liked and
my friends found gross at the moment. Honey guzzling is especially good
when you've got a sore throat, better than a cough drop :)

> >Least: Would be forgetting and getting my tail caught in doors and such.
> One of my favorite comic book quotes, from Nightcrawler (X-men):
> "When you have a tail, you learn to go through doors _fast_!"

You know Nightcrawler and Beast were the only reasons I collected X-men :)

> > 69) Do you think the world would be better if everyone was furry?
> >No, unless of course you were a plumber ;) Clogged drains everywhere.
> <chuckle> As I recently said to a fellow fur on ICQ: "Hey, c'mon,
> humans have their uses! Somebody's gotta keep the plumbing
> working..." GMTA, I guess!

*Looks curiously at the acronym for a few moments* Oh I get it. Great
Minds Think Alike. Sorry I'm rather slow on acronyms.

> > 86) Do you work / have you ever worked / do you want to work with
> > animals/furries?
> >I've often thought of volunteering at the SPCA but I'm afraid I'd be
> >taking too much of my work home with me ;)
> Yeah, I think they might object if they find their critters all going
> home with you <G>

Actually they wouldn't mind but my parents or my landlord at school
would!!

> >Well there's my furvey. :) *Fuzzybear brings out a tray he had hidden
> >behind his back* Bear Paws for everyfur who read this far :) Bear Paws, at
> >least the recipe I use, are a yummy pastry that smells like pumpkin pie
> >and tastes like a cross between ginger bread and madelienes with lots of
> >chocolate mixed in :9
>
> Hmm, I dunno...never trust a skinny cook...Just kidding, hand 'em
> over! Yum!

*pats his not so little tummy* I'm not skinny just light ;)

> Michael Tyger
> --oops, did I say "Welcome!" erg, I didn't--Welcome!!

Thanks! I hope all goes well on your July trip!

Fuzzybear going to meet a special someone in July also :)

Fuzzybear

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Jun 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/2/98

On 31 May 1998, Oecherwolf wrote:

> In article <catgrrl-3005...@n109client16.hawaii.rr.com>,

> cat...@I.ain't.gonna.play.spamcity.usa.net (WebKitty) writes:
> > Welcome Fuzzybear! Would you like some Oreos? :)

> A wolfy welcome from me, too.

Thank you Oecherwolf :)

> > <snip>

> >> 3) What zodiac sign are you?
> >> Capricorn

> > Yeah! Capricorn. The best furs are Capricorns! ;)

> She's right! (Why do you all look at me that strange way? Okay, I
> admin. I'm Capricorn too.) :-)

Seems like January will be a busy month for Robin :)

> > Oooooh! Thanks! *snatch* *munch* Mmmmmm...free goo....

> Hey, now she's eaten *all* of it. Must have been a hungry cat.

*reaches into his backpack and pulls out another bowlfull* Here's some
more Oecherwolf :)

> --
> Oecherwolf http://poboxes.com/owolf
> I used to be a werewolf but I'm better now--ooooooow! ;-)

Fuzzybear chuckling at a sig :)

Fuzzybear

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Jun 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/2/98

On Sun, 31 May 1998, Skytech wrote:

> Fuzzybear wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 30 May 1998, Skytech wrote:
> >
> > > Welcome to Homestead, oh ursine one! Fishsticks?
> > Thanks Skytech! No thank you on the fishsticks though. This bear is kinda
> > strange in that I don't like seafood *shrug*. Thanks for offering though
> > :)
> What seafood? I caught the catfish over in the lake.

Well I consider anything that has gills and comes out of the water to be
seafood as well as the many crustaceans in the water. Congratulations on
the good fishing though :)

> Ah well. Let's check out the buffet table for other goodies.

Fuzzybear follows the funny fox foraging for food :) He piles a plate high
with all sorts of goodies. He looks at the furs tittering at his swaying
tower of pizzas and other food items. "What you don't think a growing bear
is going to pass all this up do you :)"

Fuzzybear

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Jun 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/2/98

On 1 Jun 1998, HPickands wrote:

> In article <Pine.OSF.3.96.980531...@toto.csustan.edu>,
> Fuzzybear <jbu...@toto.csustan.edu> writes:

> >> > 8) What do you do for a living?
> >> > Professional procrastinator and BS artist, ie college student.

> >> Ah, BS...the desperate student's last resort in essay-writing. But it
> >works...
> A fellow wielder of The Golden Pitchfork! Flinging "stuff" hard and fast is
> how I survived freshman English Comp. :)

Unfortunately Freshman Comp has gotten a lot more easygoing now days. :/
Many students in mine could hardly read and couldn't construct complete
sentences. The education system is losing it's ability to educate it
seems. What I want to know is why are people in college who don't want to
learn?

> >One wonders why they even bother calling a college degree a BA when it's
> >really a BS ;)
> :) The thingie on my wall says that I have a BS in BA, so I guess I have the
> best of both worlds.

*chuckle*

> Welcome to ALF Fuzzybear. Always nice to have another auspicious ursine around
> the place

Thanks Harry. Nice to see fellow bears even if I do tend to stand out
*waves his five foot tail* :)

> Harry Bear,
> 31 days and counting. :)

Fuzzybear wondering if Harry might be counting down to AAC? :)

Duncan da Husky

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Jun 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/2/98

In article <Pine.OSF.3.96.98060...@toto.csustan.edu>,
Fuzzybear says...

> *nods* People often mistake my printing for a first graders scrawl :)
> Better than having doctor's scrawl though. That no one can read ;)

There's a reason the back of all of my credit cards say "Please ask for
photo ID." Heck, *I* can't duplicate my signature. And yes, I get a lot
of "Are you a doctor? With this signature you should be."

> Period is stuff like Music for Shakespeare and the Art of the Bawdy song
> and stuff like that. I don't really know what to call it. As for celtic
> rock I just know about Tempest as they played for my college. I'll have to
> look for the ones you mentioned though so I can find more goodies :)

Yep, Lief Sorbye (can't make the O-with-a-slash-through-it thingy here)
is talented and does some fun stuff. Hey, I just picked up a fun new CD -
"The Bones of All Men," a collaboration between early woodwind musician
Philip Pickett and guitar god Richard Thompson, with the Fairport
Convention Rhythm Section along for fun. Has some great reworkings of
period dance tunes - lotsa fun (Hannibal/Ryko 1998). Duncan-Bob sez check
it out :-)

> Also somewhere in that mass of drawings is my one RL picture on the net of
> me in my Stewart kilt with my celtic long sword (taken before I got my
> early claymore).

Nice job on the kilt. Nice legs, too (woo woo!) ;-)

> Also the one picture of my mate and I kissing is one that
> I got some homophobic email on which I started a lot of conversations with
> on ASB. I left the furs name out. I was just hurt at the time and wanted
> someone to say the email was wrong.

Hmm - before I came along. I saw the drawing though - how could anyone
have a problem with that? It's kyoot!

>> It has chocolate, so it must be good! Yum!
> Beware the death by chocolate dessert ;)

Beware? Point me to it, and let it beware of me! Woof!

> > -Duncan da Husky, who really needs some coffee this morning...
> Fuzzybear handing some chocolate covered coffee beans over :)

Alas! You have found my weakness! <grab> Mmmmmmmm...

-Duncan da Husky, who's bouncing off the cubicle walls

Michael Tyger

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Jun 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/2/98

On Tue, 2 Jun 1998 02:00:44 -0700, Fuzzybear
<jbu...@toto.csustan.edu> wrote:

>On Sun, 31 May 1998, Michael Tyger wrote:
>
>> > 4) What year were you born in, and what is your Chinese New Year animal?
>> >1978 Earth Snake (January is before the Chinese New Year switches,
>> >otherwise I'd be horse like all the others born in 78)
>> I had the same problem. A few days later, I would've been Goat
>> instead of Horse. Was still hoping for tiger...<sigh>
>
>It's not a problem for me. I feel no connection towards horses yet I do
>feel some towards dragons and a snake is close enough. :)

I have nothing really for or against horses...beautiful animals, but I
couldn't ride one to save my life...what? You thought all Texans rode
horses? Feh!

>> > 8) What do you do for a living?
>> >Professional procrastinator and BS artist, ie college student. I work in
>> >the Mac lab during school and do day labor for contractors during the
>> >Summer, the manual labor pays better :)
>> Mine was a PC lab, but that's part of what I did to make ends meet
>> during college. The manual labor (well, not really, I was a file
>> clerk/data entry tech) came two other days out of the week.
>
>In the maclab I get lots of questions even I consider stupid and I'm
>almost techno illiterate. The one that really got me was this person
>complaining that their disk wasn't working. They were trying to insert an
>old 5" PC floppy into a mac. I was sorely tempted to tell them to fold it
>in half to make it fit ;)

You too? My favorites were the one who handed me the floppy with the
muddy water dripping out of it, who said, "What can you do with this?"
(Make a _really_ small frisbee, I think I said...); the one who
decided he didn't like the little metal part on his 3-1/2" disks, so
he removed it, then put his disk label over the space where it'd been;
and the one who called across the room saying the drive wouldn't read
his CD-ROM disk. We didn't _have_ any CD-ROM drives then. Prying the
disk out of the 5-1/4" floppy drive after he'd jammed it in was
interesting...

I really wish I was lying about the above...they all happened, I
swear!

>> Kewl! Another musical fan! What musicals have you seen? My list
>> could fill a volume...
>
>Let's see, starting with my favorites then going down to just things I
>remember it's still a fairly large list. Into the Woods (Fairy tales with
>an anatomically correct big bad wolf costume), City of Angels (good noir
>style), Secret Garden, Sweeney Todd, Assassins, Return to the Forbidden
>Planet (classic rock and roll and Shakespeare), Phantom of the Opera,
>Cats, Follies, Funny Thing Happened on the way to the Forum, Starlight
>Express, Joseph: & the AT Dreamcoat, Insurrection:Holding History,
>Forbidden Broadway, Song of Singapore, Pippen, Godspell,...

Pretty kewl. I've seen the whole Andrew Lloyd Weber collection,
Phantom (soon to be 2X), Cats (2X), Sweeney Todd, Joseph (2X), Rent,
Jesus Christ Superstar (with Ted Neely!), Kiss of the Spider-Woman
(2X), The King and I, South Pacific, Evita, Miss Saigon, Oklahoma!,
just saw Victor/Victoria last week, Hair, a host of others...my
"signature song" below is from an excellent musical, BTW. And while
calling it a "musical" may be stretching it, I highly recommend Le
Cirque Du Soleil (yep, I've seen them in person too!). We oughtta
compare notes sometime.

>> > 18) Do you draw/write/make furry things?
>> >I draw furries and most of my sculptures are critters, usually dragons as
>> >they're such fun to make :) I would write furry stories if I ever got the
>> >muse long enough. I've had one story in my head for five years now that
>> >won't go away.
>> <scratches head in puzzlement> Why would you want it to go away?
>> 'Course, I'm a writer, so I'm biased...
>
>Because it's not likely to ever get written and it's such a bad mishmash
>of genre's. Basically it's Star Wars meets WW2 meets furries. The many
>planets of furries have just discovered the records of the original food
>chains and paranoia insues. A rabbit named Bundolf Hoppler takes command
>and seperates the societies into the Herbivores and the carnivores,
>setting the herbivores up as the good and the carnivores as those that
>need to be exterminated to save the numerically superior herbivores from
>the "threat" of meat eaters. Omnivores are forced to register but are
>mainly free, for now. The main character is a Snow Leopard who watches his
>family die at the hands of a herbivore purification squad. He grows up to
>become a fighter pilot with the carnivore resistance helped out by the
>omnivores and herbivore sympathizers. Lots of space battles and stuff.
>
>See it's all pretty confused and cliche yet I can't get it to stop popping
>up. I came up with the idea when I was in a grumpy mood about all the
>vegetarian friends of mine trying to convert me to their ways ;)

I dunno...remembering what a man named Lucas did with what (let's face
it) was an _incredibly_ cliched storyline...And as one of my mentors
loved to say, if you don't like how your story is working out, change
it! Don't be afraid to refine your ideas into a form that works for
you. I see some potential there.

>Im not _that_ skinny! I've still got some comfy padding for when I find my
>snuggle partner :) Most of the weight loss came from just eliminating
>sodas from my diet. I'm now so unused to them I can't really even drink
>them anymore. I will help myself to the goody tables though *YUM* :9

Wish I could do that...weight loss for me will take a bit more than
that, I'm afraid. Not that _I'll_ ever look skinny, but I'll settle
for not looking fat.

>> > 31) Do you think that your personality resembles that of any animal/furry?
>> >The bear most definitely. I sleep alot, gorge for one meal and then want
>> >to sleep again. I have a tendency to want to swat things that annoy me
>> >with my large paws. I also have a tendency to guzzle honey and stick it on
>> >things that most people wouldn't dream of. :9
>> I have _got_ to have an example of that...! 'Course, I recently
>> received an offer to be turned into a honey-flavored lollipop...<VEG>
>
>*Chuckle* Well for some of the things I've gotten "Ewww"s for: french
>fries, fried chicken, and can't remember any other things that I liked and
>my friends found gross at the moment. Honey guzzling is especially good
>when you've got a sore throat, better than a cough drop :)

After having honey roast chicken, I don't see a problem...ditto for
fries (I've had 'em with honey mustard a number of times, also like
'em with Ranch dressing...ketchup gets boring, sometimes...)

>> >Least: Would be forgetting and getting my tail caught in doors and such.
>> One of my favorite comic book quotes, from Nightcrawler (X-men):
>> "When you have a tail, you learn to go through doors _fast_!"
>
>You know Nightcrawler and Beast were the only reasons I collected X-men :)

I was also kinda partial to Kitty Pryde...'course, in _my_ mind's eye,
she was a kitty in more than name...

>> > 69) Do you think the world would be better if everyone was furry?
>> >No, unless of course you were a plumber ;) Clogged drains everywhere.
>> <chuckle> As I recently said to a fellow fur on ICQ: "Hey, c'mon,
>> humans have their uses! Somebody's gotta keep the plumbing
>> working..." GMTA, I guess!
>
>*Looks curiously at the acronym for a few moments* Oh I get it. Great
>Minds Think Alike. Sorry I'm rather slow on acronyms.

No prob. I'm new to 'em, myself, tho' I'm learning fast <G> Got a
very good teacher...

>> > 86) Do you work / have you ever worked / do you want to work with
>> > animals/furries?
>> >I've often thought of volunteering at the SPCA but I'm afraid I'd be
>> >taking too much of my work home with me ;)
>> Yeah, I think they might object if they find their critters all going
>> home with you <G>
>
>Actually they wouldn't mind but my parents or my landlord at school
>would!!

>> >Well there's my furvey. :) *Fuzzybear brings out a tray he had hidden
>> >behind his back* Bear Paws for everyfur who read this far :) Bear Paws, at
>> >least the recipe I use, are a yummy pastry that smells like pumpkin pie
>> >and tastes like a cross between ginger bread and madelienes with lots of
>> >chocolate mixed in :9
>>
>> Hmm, I dunno...never trust a skinny cook...Just kidding, hand 'em
>> over! Yum!
>
>*pats his not so little tummy* I'm not skinny just light ;)
>
>> Michael Tyger
>> --oops, did I say "Welcome!" erg, I didn't--Welcome!!
>
>Thanks! I hope all goes well on your July trip!

I'm sure it will...Gwyn and I may not see much outside my hotel
room...<VVVVEG>

>Fuzzybear going to meet a special someone in July also :)

Kewl! Congrats!

Michael Tyger
--Jekyll & Hyde quote to follow...

Fuzzybear

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On Mon, 1 Jun 1998, David Glover wrote:

> In article <Pine.OSF.3.96.980526...@toto.csustan.edu>,
> Fuzzybear <jbu...@toto.csustan.edu> wrote:

> > 1978 Earth Snake (January is before the Chinese New Year switches,
> > otherwise I'd be horse like all the others born in 78)

> Really? Oh. Guess that means I'm not Monkey then! :)
>
> When *does* it change?

Chinese New Year is February 15, I think. I'm pretty bad with dates. You
should be able to look it up if you've got a good calendar with all the
holidays on it.

Fuzzybear who should know by now having chinese Godparents and getting
Lycee every year

Fuzzybear

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On Tue, 2 Jun 1998, Duncan da Husky wrote:

> In article <Pine.OSF.3.96.98060...@toto.csustan.edu>,
> Fuzzybear says...

> > Period is stuff like Music for Shakespeare and the Art of the Bawdy song
> > and stuff like that. I don't really know what to call it. As for celtic
> > rock I just know about Tempest as they played for my college. I'll have to
> > look for the ones you mentioned though so I can find more goodies :)
> Yep, Lief Sorbye (can't make the O-with-a-slash-through-it thingy here)
> is talented and does some fun stuff. Hey, I just picked up a fun new CD -
> "The Bones of All Men," a collaboration between early woodwind musician
> Philip Pickett and guitar god Richard Thompson, with the Fairport
> Convention Rhythm Section along for fun. Has some great reworkings of
> period dance tunes - lotsa fun (Hannibal/Ryko 1998). Duncan-Bob sez check
> it out :-)

I also heard a really good celtic rock group on my ride down to CF9 can't
remember the name though. Had a female lead singer and one of the songs
was "I am the black unicorn" or something like that. Really cool sounding
:) I will of course try and look for your new suggestions. :)

> > Also somewhere in that mass of drawings is my one RL picture on the net of
> > me in my Stewart kilt with my celtic long sword (taken before I got my
> > early claymore).
> Nice job on the kilt. Nice legs, too (woo woo!) ;-)

*blush* I seem to get that reaction a lot when I wear my kilt. They either
say that or "Are you wearing it traditionally? *smirk*" The answer is of
course yes, which means I have to be careful when bounding up stairs two
at a time in my normal fashion ;)

> > Also the one picture of my mate and I kissing is one that
> > I got some homophobic email on which I started a lot of conversations with
> > on ASB. I left the furs name out. I was just hurt at the time and wanted
> > someone to say the email was wrong.
> Hmm - before I came along. I saw the drawing though - how could anyone
> have a problem with that? It's kyoot!

Yeah but it was two guys so therefore wrong in his mind. Oh well, not my
problem but that of those he lives with. It has made me more hesitant to
post drawings though for fear of being kicked off the archive for being
too controversial. I keep on drawing pictures of my mate and I snuggling
and send him copies :)

> >> It has chocolate, so it must be good! Yum!
> > Beware the death by chocolate dessert ;)
> Beware? Point me to it, and let it beware of me! Woof!

Fuzzy points toward the extremely rich chocolate dessert and starts
preparing the My-lanta cocktail for when Duncan is done ;)

> > > -Duncan da Husky, who really needs some coffee this morning...
> > Fuzzybear handing some chocolate covered coffee beans over :)
> Alas! You have found my weakness! <grab> Mmmmmmmm...

You should have tried some of that chocolate they had in tins at CF9
during the artists meeting. Extremely rich super caffiened chocolate. :)

> -Duncan da Husky, who's bouncing off the cubicle walls

Fuzzybear having fun watching tda Husky acting like Tygger ;)

Fuzzybear

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On Tue, 2 Jun 1998, Michael Tyger wrote:

> I have nothing really for or against horses...beautiful animals, but I
> couldn't ride one to save my life...what? You thought all Texans rode
> horses? Feh!

Never thought that. My one experience of being in Texas was one day on a
layover when flying standby. From the heat outside I couldn't see how
Texans would have the energy to do anything in that heat! Arizona seems
mild in comparison.

> >In the maclab I get lots of questions even I consider stupid and I'm
> >almost techno illiterate. The one that really got me was this person
> >complaining that their disk wasn't working. They were trying to insert an
> >old 5" PC floppy into a mac. I was sorely tempted to tell them to fold it
> >in half to make it fit ;)
> You too? My favorites were the one who handed me the floppy with the
> muddy water dripping out of it, who said, "What can you do with this?"
> (Make a _really_ small frisbee, I think I said...); the one who
> decided he didn't like the little metal part on his 3-1/2" disks, so
> he removed it, then put his disk label over the space where it'd been;
> and the one who called across the room saying the drive wouldn't read
> his CD-ROM disk. We didn't _have_ any CD-ROM drives then. Prying the
> disk out of the 5-1/4" floppy drive after he'd jammed it in was
> interesting...
> I really wish I was lying about the above...they all happened, I
> swear!

I believe you. I've heard enough horror stories from fellow workers to
know that they all happen all to regularly.

> >Let's see, starting with my favorites then going down to just things I
> >remember it's still a fairly large list. Into the Woods (Fairy tales with
> >an anatomically correct big bad wolf costume), City of Angels (good noir
> >style), Secret Garden, Sweeney Todd, Assassins, Return to the Forbidden
> >Planet (classic rock and roll and Shakespeare), Phantom of the Opera,
> >Cats, Follies, Funny Thing Happened on the way to the Forum, Starlight
> >Express, Joseph: & the AT Dreamcoat, Insurrection:Holding History,
> >Forbidden Broadway, Song of Singapore, Pippen, Godspell,...
> Pretty kewl. I've seen the whole Andrew Lloyd Weber collection,
> Phantom (soon to be 2X), Cats (2X), Sweeney Todd, Joseph (2X), Rent,
> Jesus Christ Superstar (with Ted Neely!), Kiss of the Spider-Woman
> (2X), The King and I, South Pacific, Evita, Miss Saigon, Oklahoma!,
> just saw Victor/Victoria last week, Hair, a host of others...my
> "signature song" below is from an excellent musical, BTW. And while
> calling it a "musical" may be stretching it, I highly recommend Le
> Cirque Du Soleil (yep, I've seen them in person too!). We oughtta
> compare notes sometime.

Oh yeah! I've also seen South Pacific, King & I, Evita, Hello Dolly (Carol
Channing), A Few Good Men (Not a musical but a very good play, better than
the movie IMO), and others I'll remember if somefur else mentions them. I
saw Cirque Du Soleil once when I was like 8 or something so don't recall
it too clearly. Oh yeah, there was this one very cool play, that I can't
remember the title of, about a werewolf. It had great special effects
makeup and they did a transformation on stage! It was actually pretty
simple as he'd run off to one side someone else would run out with same
clothes but different makeup and repeat. At one point though when the
transformation was almost done he stopped in center stage and tore off the
remaining human features and some of it flew into the audience. It was
very effective! Made me believe there was a real werewolf onstage. That
night I had nightmares, that I had turned into a werewolf and had started
killing people, and had to go and sleep in my parents room even though I
was in middle school.

> >Because it's not likely to ever get written and it's such a bad mishmash
> >of genre's. Basically it's Star Wars meets WW2 meets furries. The many
> >planets of furries have just discovered the records of the original food
> >chains and paranoia insues. A rabbit named Bundolf Hoppler takes command
> >and seperates the societies into the Herbivores and the carnivores,
> >setting the herbivores up as the good and the carnivores as those that
> >need to be exterminated to save the numerically superior herbivores from
> >the "threat" of meat eaters. Omnivores are forced to register but are
> >mainly free, for now. The main character is a Snow Leopard who watches his
> >family die at the hands of a herbivore purification squad. He grows up to
> >become a fighter pilot with the carnivore resistance helped out by the
> >omnivores and herbivore sympathizers. Lots of space battles and stuff.
> >
> >See it's all pretty confused and cliche yet I can't get it to stop popping
> >up. I came up with the idea when I was in a grumpy mood about all the
> >vegetarian friends of mine trying to convert me to their ways ;)
> I dunno...remembering what a man named Lucas did with what (let's face
> it) was an _incredibly_ cliched storyline...And as one of my mentors
> loved to say, if you don't like how your story is working out, change
> it! Don't be afraid to refine your ideas into a form that works for
> you. I see some potential there.

Yeah but still writing is not really my strong point I could tell the
story to someone else and have them write it but when I do things myself I
end up making them too short and confusing. *I* know what's supposed to be
going on so I forget to clarify things for the readers. I can't believe
you see some potential in that silly story though :)

> >Im not _that_ skinny! I've still got some comfy padding for when I find my
> >snuggle partner :) Most of the weight loss came from just eliminating
> >sodas from my diet. I'm now so unused to them I can't really even drink
> >them anymore. I will help myself to the goody tables though *YUM* :9
> Wish I could do that...weight loss for me will take a bit more than
> that, I'm afraid. Not that _I'll_ ever look skinny, but I'll settle
> for not looking fat.

Don't be so pessimistic you might be able to surprise yourself. People
look at pictures of me from just a year ago and can't believe I'm the same
person. All it takes is watching what you eat and getting some mild
exercise every now and then and you can slowly but surely lose weight.

> >*Chuckle* Well for some of the things I've gotten "Ewww"s for: french
> >fries, fried chicken, and can't remember any other things that I liked and
> >my friends found gross at the moment. Honey guzzling is especially good
> >when you've got a sore throat, better than a cough drop :)
> After having honey roast chicken, I don't see a problem...ditto for
> fries (I've had 'em with honey mustard a number of times, also like
> 'em with Ranch dressing...ketchup gets boring, sometimes...)

Yeah but honey roasted is a bit different from pouring raw honey on stuff
:) It's a whole lot sweeter :) Honey is of course the perfect food. The
only kind made without killing plants or animals and can last forever
without ever spoiling or going bad :)

> >You know Nightcrawler and Beast were the only reasons I collected X-men :)
> I was also kinda partial to Kitty Pryde...'course, in _my_ mind's eye,
> she was a kitty in more than name...

You must have read Excalibur then :) Greatest Marvel comic book with lots
of furries in it. I was extrememly mad at them when they turned it into
just another X-men book and kicked all the good parts out of it. That's
another talent I have: likeing comic books that are mangled or canceled
almost immediately after I find them :/

> >Thanks! I hope all goes well on your July trip!
> I'm sure it will...Gwyn and I may not see much outside my hotel
> room...<VVVVEG>

Fuzzy eepblushes and covers his eyes ;)

> >Fuzzybear going to meet a special someone in July also :)
> Kewl! Congrats!

Thanks! I'm hoping I might get a small gathering of Minnesota furs out
there when I'm there. Let my mate meet more furs and have some furs to
talk with face to face. :)

> Michael Tyger
> --Jekyll & Hyde quote to follow...

Fuzzybear who just found a soundtrack for Jekyll & Hyde in his parents CD
rack :)

HPickands

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In article <Pine.OSF.3.96.98060...@toto.csustan.edu>,
Fuzzybear <jbu...@toto.csustan.edu> writes:

>
>Unfortunately Freshman Comp has gotten a lot more easygoing now days. :/
>Many students in mine could hardly read and couldn't construct complete
>sentences.

I guess Freshman Comp _had_ to get easier if the Frosh are coming in pretty
much illiterate. They _can't_ comp, so why bother? :P

> The education system is losing it's ability to educate it
>seems.

High School should be renamed "Low School" perhaps. ;) Oh well, the
"grad-you-waits" may not know much, but the schools make damn sure they feel
good about themselves. :/

> What I want to know is why are people in college who don't want to
>learn?

Same reasons that have always been there I guess, getting that ticket to big
bucks after graduation, a chance to party hearty, a shot at big time sports
action for those muscularly endowed, and in the case of my Freshman year
roomie, getting away from a domineering mother. Once on his own he went nuts,
and damn near ruined my college career as he destroyed his own. Hard to study
with a drunk playing Elvis records at two in the morning. I hate Elvis to this
day. Have little love for Mau Mau too.

BTW, that's what everyone called him, and the name fit. :o

>> Welcome to ALF Fuzzybear. Always nice to have another auspicious ursine
>around
>> the place
>
>Thanks Harry. Nice to see fellow bears even if I do tend to stand out
>*waves his five foot tail* :)

Five _feet_!!! All I have is something like a pom-pom that just sits there all
unexpressive. Oh well, it doesn't get caught in doors and such. :)

>
>> Harry Bear,
>> 31 days and counting. :)
>
>Fuzzybear wondering if Harry might be counting down to AAC? :)

Verily, it is true! :) The old one is coming, first time out of the lair in
three years. See ya there! :)

Harry,
down to 29 days this morning.

Duncan da Husky

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In article <Pine.OSF.3.96.980603...@toto.csustan.edu>,
Fuzzybear says...

> I also heard a really good celtic rock group on my ride down to CF9 can't
> remember the name though. Had a female lead singer and one of the songs
> was "I am the black unicorn" or something like that. Really cool sounding
> :) I will of course try and look for your new suggestions. :)

<grin> That's one of my favorites bands. It's Phoenyx, and the album is
"Keepers of the Flame." They broke up back in the 80's, but their lead
singer, Heather Alexander, has put out some excellent solo albums. You
can get her stuff, as well as stuff by Tempest, from Firebird Arts
(http://www.firebirdarts.com).

> > Nice job on the kilt. Nice legs, too (woo woo!) ;-)
> *blush* I seem to get that reaction a lot when I wear my kilt. They either
> say that or "Are you wearing it traditionally? *smirk*" The answer is of
> course yes, which means I have to be careful when bounding up stairs two
> at a time in my normal fashion ;)

Ah, a fine regimental lad! <chuckle> Haven't tried kilts yet, though I
may yet. I like the look of that style of costuming...

> Yeah but it was two guys so therefore wrong in his mind. Oh well, not my
> problem but that of those he lives with. It has made me more hesitant to
> post drawings though for fear of being kicked off the archive for being
> too controversial. I keep on drawing pictures of my mate and I snuggling
> and send him copies :)

As long as you keep it just snuggling, I can't see why there would be any
problem. That photograph, though, could cause you some problems (see the
recent thread by Tae Kwon Doe on alt.fan.furry for why).

> > -Duncan da Husky, who's bouncing off the cubicle walls

> Fuzzybear having fun watching da Husky acting like Tygger ;)

-Duncan da Husky, who's looking at the calendar and thinking, "9 days and
counting..."

"Rhetorical subtlety doesn't work on people with the perceptive
powers of an eggplant." - Spencer Sun

Michael Tyger

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On Wed, 3 Jun 1998 02:14:18 -0700, Fuzzybear
<jbu...@toto.csustan.edu> wrote:

>On Tue, 2 Jun 1998, Michael Tyger wrote:
>
>> I have nothing really for or against horses...beautiful animals, but I
>> couldn't ride one to save my life...what? You thought all Texans rode
>> horses? Feh!
>
>Never thought that. My one experience of being in Texas was one day on a
>layover when flying standby. From the heat outside I couldn't see how
>Texans would have the energy to do anything in that heat! Arizona seems
>mild in comparison.

Having been there, in high summer, I agree. I know here on the Island
of Lost Souls it's not just the heat you have to contend with, it's
70%+ humidity. Feels like standing fully dressed in a sauna with a
magnifying glass over your head (sun blazing merrily up above, of
course). Arizona, when I was there, felt like late fall.

<SNIPO!>

>> I really wish I was lying about the above...they all happened, I
>> swear!
>
>I believe you. I've heard enough horror stories from fellow workers to
>know that they all happen all to regularly.

Yep. Far too regularly. As we say in the DP dept. where I work, "The
computer system we have would be great, if we could just get rid of
all the damn users..."

Don't know that one, though I know I would've loved it! I saw Le
Cirque do Quidam just this year, so the memories are still pretty
fresh <G> I missed my chance to see Carol Channing, I was still in
college, and it was a case of study for a final I had the next day, or
go see Hello Dolly... I was able to see Jerry Lewis in Damn Yankees,
tho'. I'd had my doubts, but he made a _great_ devil...

<snip a little more...>

>> I dunno...remembering what a man named Lucas did with what (let's face
>> it) was an _incredibly_ cliched storyline...And as one of my mentors
>> loved to say, if you don't like how your story is working out, change
>> it! Don't be afraid to refine your ideas into a form that works for
>> you. I see some potential there.
>
>Yeah but still writing is not really my strong point I could tell the
>story to someone else and have them write it but when I do things myself I
>end up making them too short and confusing. *I* know what's supposed to be
>going on so I forget to clarify things for the readers. I can't believe
>you see some potential in that silly story though :)

There's potential in everything, I think. One of the stories I
managed to sell professionally was nothing more than a slice-of-life
piece about a farmer on an alien world, who just learned the Earth had
been destroyed. Eugh, that sounded like bragging... But I really
think that if your muse saw fit to send you that story for a reason.
You ought to find out why.

>> >Im not _that_ skinny! I've still got some comfy padding for when I find my
>> >snuggle partner :) Most of the weight loss came from just eliminating
>> >sodas from my diet. I'm now so unused to them I can't really even drink
>> >them anymore. I will help myself to the goody tables though *YUM* :9
>> Wish I could do that...weight loss for me will take a bit more than
>> that, I'm afraid. Not that _I'll_ ever look skinny, but I'll settle
>> for not looking fat.
>
>Don't be so pessimistic you might be able to surprise yourself. People
>look at pictures of me from just a year ago and can't believe I'm the same
>person. All it takes is watching what you eat and getting some mild
>exercise every now and then and you can slowly but surely lose weight.

What _I_ need is a radical change of diet and more than just _mild_
exercise...I do four miles a day on my bike (in Texas heat!) as it is.
Tho' an upper-body workout would likely do me a lot of good.

<couldn't think of anything to add to the honey section, so...>

>> >You know Nightcrawler and Beast were the only reasons I collected X-men :)
>> I was also kinda partial to Kitty Pryde...'course, in _my_ mind's eye,
>> she was a kitty in more than name...
>
>You must have read Excalibur then :) Greatest Marvel comic book with lots
>of furries in it. I was extrememly mad at them when they turned it into
>just another X-men book and kicked all the good parts out of it. That's
>another talent I have: likeing comic books that are mangled or canceled
>almost immediately after I find them :/

I liked Kitty from her earliest days in the X-Men, and followed her to
Excalibur, yes. And I agree with you about what's happened to the
book. <sigh> I had so much hope for it when Wolvesbane joined...

>> >Thanks! I hope all goes well on your July trip!
>> I'm sure it will...Gwyn and I may not see much outside my hotel
>> room...<VVVVEG>
>
>Fuzzy eepblushes and covers his eyes ;)

<VEG>

>> >Fuzzybear going to meet a special someone in July also :)
>> Kewl! Congrats!
>
>Thanks! I'm hoping I might get a small gathering of Minnesota furs out
>there when I'm there. Let my mate meet more furs and have some furs to
>talk with face to face. :)

Sounds great. I hope when I move to Fla., I can have some meetings
like that myself. Seem to be a lot of furs there...

>> Michael Tyger
>> --Jekyll & Hyde quote to follow...
>
>Fuzzybear who just found a soundtrack for Jekyll & Hyde in his parents CD
>rack :)

Which one, I wonder? I prefer the original 2-CD set. I really love
the music, and the storyline. Speaks to me in a lot of ways...

Michael Tyger
--now, where did I leave that transformation elixir?

Ron Orr...& Tirran

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Jun 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/4/98

Fuzzybear <jbu...@toto.csustan.edu> wrote:

> On Sat, 30 May 1998, Skytech wrote:
>

> > ... why do they serve fish on meatless Fridays?

>
> Meatless Fridays? Is that like when you run out of food money by the end
> of the week? ;)

<sigh> So much has been forgotten since Vatican II...

Tir'

Micole Khemarrica

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Jun 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/5/98

Skytech wrote:

> Fuzzybear wrote:
> > 22) Are you a meat eater?
> > Yep, mostly poultry.

> Yeah that's meat. Then again, why do they serve fish on
> meatless Fridays?

Historical precedent... same reason why there's a term called 'flesh,
fish, and fowl' even though you'd think of any animal as being 'flesh'.

Historically, fish was _not_ considered meat in the terms of hooved
livestock... 'meat' was interchangeably used to denote what we'd call
'red meat animals', and was _also_ used to denote the edible parts of
_anything_ with an outer skin or shell, hence the terms 'nutmeat' and
'meat of the fruit'.

Kosher laws and religious precident was to prevent eating 'red-meat
animals' under certain conditions. Queen Elizabeth created 'fish days'
that were specifically secular in origin and were to encourage England's
fishing industry by forcing everyone to refrain from eating 'flesh or
fowl' on those days.

I think it's ironic that to this day Clam Chowder is traditionally
served on Fridays, long held to be a 'meatless' day so fish was the
immediate substitute...

ermine (culinary historian buff)
[Undo the Knot to Reply.]

Micole Khemarrica

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Jun 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/5/98

Shall we do the Vatican Rag? :3

ermine (genuflect, genuflect, genuflect!)

Allen Kitchen

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Jun 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/5/98

Micole Khemarrica <Same...@SamePlace.com> wrote in article
<3577FA98...@SamePlace.com>...

> Shall we do the Vatican Rag? :3

The netwolf drops a frog onto the floor. The little green
hopster quickly puts on a tophat.

((singing frog))

Everybody do the Vatican rag.
Everybody likes the Vatican rag.
Every cardinal, bishop, nun.
Even the pope thinks it's good fun!

Slide, glide, hide, and genuflect
Bump, jump, hump if in your sect
Slide, glide, hide the Vatican Rag!

((frog stops))

BRrrrrrruppt!

Allen Kitchen (shockwave)

MegaDog the Nettweiler

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Jun 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/5/98

In article <3577FA69...@SamePlace.com>, Micole Khemarrica
<Same...@SamePlace.com> writes

>Skytech wrote:
>> Fuzzybear wrote:
>> > 22) Are you a meat eater?
>> > Yep, mostly poultry.

>> Yeah that's meat. Then again, why do they serve fish on
>> meatless Fridays?
>

>Historical precedent... same reason why there's a term called 'flesh,
>fish, and fowl' even though you'd think of any animal as being 'flesh'.
>
>Historically, fish was _not_ considered meat in the terms of hooved
>livestock... 'meat' was interchangeably used to denote what we'd call
>'red meat animals', and was _also_ used to denote the edible parts of
>_anything_ with an outer skin or shell, hence the terms 'nutmeat' and
>'meat of the fruit'.

And this is why there was considerable effort put in by the clergy in
the Middle Ages to 'prove' that the Barnacle Goose hatched from a
barnacle, thereby making it a fish and so eligible to be eaten on
fridays!
--
!Raised Tails! -:MegaDog:-
http://www.canismajor.demon.co.uk/index.html
"If a tin-whistle is made of tin, how do I make a wolf whistle?"

Micole Khemarrica

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Jun 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/5/98

MegaDog the Nettweiler wrote:
> In article <3577FA69...@SamePlace.com>, Micole Khemarrica
> <Same...@SamePlace.com> writes
> >Skytech wrote:
> >> Fuzzybear wrote:
> >> > 22) Are you a meat eater?
> >> > Yep, mostly poultry.
> >> Yeah that's meat. Then again, why do they serve fish on
> >> meatless Fridays?
> >
> >Historical precedent... same reason why there's a term called 'flesh,
> >fish, and fowl' even though you'd think of any animal as being 'flesh'.
> >
> >Historically, fish was _not_ considered meat in the terms of hooved
> >livestock... 'meat' was interchangeably used to denote what we'd call
> >'red meat animals', and was _also_ used to denote the edible parts of
> >_anything_ with an outer skin or shell, hence the terms 'nutmeat' and
> >'meat of the fruit'.
>
> And this is why there was considerable effort put in by the clergy in
> the Middle Ages to 'prove' that the Barnacle Goose hatched from a
> barnacle, thereby making it a fish and so eligible to be eaten on
> fridays!

I actually have that tale listed in my copy of Gerard's Herbal (16th
C.), as at the time they some odd notions about oceanic flora and the
GooseNeck Barnacle Tree is listed. By Gerard's story (which he
'reasearched' from the locals), they claimed the goose was actually a
_plant_, the fruit of the above mentioned tree, and therefore exempt
from meatless days... and it wasn't all that distant as the Middle Ages,
seeing that the tale regarded a Monsegnour on one of the Queen's Fish
Days (but then again, it might just be an 'urban legend' case where the
locales refit the tale to suit the 'modern' times...)

ermine

Skytech

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Jun 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/6/98

Allen Kitchen wrote:
>
> The netwolf drops a frog onto the floor. The little green
> hopster quickly puts on a tophat.
>
> ((singing frog))
>

Now we all didn't see that happen so we're going to have to
lock you up, you silly nutbasket, you!

--
La kasigada vulpo
Skytech

^^
<Oo>
.]

Skytech

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Jun 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/6/98

Micole Khemarrica wrote:
>
> Skytech wrote:
> > Fuzzybear wrote:
> > > 22) Are you a meat eater?
> > > Yep, mostly poultry.
> > Yeah that's meat. Then again, why do they serve fish on
> > meatless Fridays?
>
> Historical precedent... same reason why there's a term called 'flesh,
> fish, and fowl' even though you'd think of any animal as being 'flesh'.
>
> Historically, fish was _not_ considered meat in the terms of hooved
> livestock... 'meat' was interchangeably used to denote what we'd call
> 'red meat animals', and was _also_ used to denote the edible parts of
> _anything_ with an outer skin or shell, hence the terms 'nutmeat' and
> 'meat of the fruit'.
>

> Kosher laws and religious precident was to prevent eating 'red-meat
> animals' under certain conditions. Queen Elizabeth created 'fish days'
> that were specifically secular in origin and were to encourage England's
> fishing industry by forcing everyone to refrain from eating 'flesh or
> fowl' on those days.
>
> I think it's ironic that to this day Clam Chowder is traditionally
> served on Fridays, long held to be a 'meatless' day so fish was the
> immediate substitute...
>
> ermine (culinary historian buff)

> [Undo the Knot to Reply.]

--
La kasigada vulpo
Skytech

^^
<@@>
./

Matt Squirrel

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Jun 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/6/98

On Sat, 06 Jun 1998 09:19:39 -0400, Skytech <sky...@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:

Huge snippage

>>
>> I think it's ironic that to this day Clam Chowder is traditionally
>> served on Fridays, long held to be a 'meatless' day so fish was the
>> immediate substitute...
>>
>> ermine (culinary historian buff)
>> [Undo the Knot to Reply.]
>
>
>
>oh
>--
>La kasigada vulpo
> Skytech

Is this a ploy to get yer posting rate up or _what_?!

Matt Squirrel

Fuzzybear

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Jun 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/8/98

On Wed, 3 Jun 1998, Michael Tyger wrote:

><Snip description of cool werewolf play that I can't remember by name>

> Don't know that one, though I know I would've loved it! I saw Le
> Cirque do Quidam just this year, so the memories are still pretty
> fresh <G> I missed my chance to see Carol Channing, I was still in
> college, and it was a case of study for a final I had the next day, or
> go see Hello Dolly... I was able to see Jerry Lewis in Damn Yankees,
> tho'. I'd had my doubts, but he made a _great_ devil...

It was the opposite for me. Carol Channing was around during a break and I
missed Lewis in Damn Yankees because of college. My parents got to see it
though. I'm really itching to go see some more plays now :) There are a
few good ones playing in San Francisco right now.

> >Yeah but still writing is not really my strong point I could tell the
> >story to someone else and have them write it but when I do things myself I
> >end up making them too short and confusing. *I* know what's supposed to be
> >going on so I forget to clarify things for the readers. I can't believe
> >you see some potential in that silly story though :)
>
> There's potential in everything, I think. One of the stories I
> managed to sell professionally was nothing more than a slice-of-life
> piece about a farmer on an alien world, who just learned the Earth had
> been destroyed. Eugh, that sounded like bragging... But I really
> think that if your muse saw fit to send you that story for a reason.
> You ought to find out why.

Doesn't seem like bragging to me. Congratulations on being published! I
know I should probably just write the dang thing but I've never been
really the kind to be able to sit down and start writing something and not
finish it before getting up again. This story would be longer than one
sitting and I can't just leave stuff hanging like that.

> >You must have read Excalibur then :) Greatest Marvel comic book with lots
> >of furries in it. I was extrememly mad at them when they turned it into
> >just another X-men book and kicked all the good parts out of it. That's
> >another talent I have: likeing comic books that are mangled or canceled
> >almost immediately after I find them :/
>
> I liked Kitty from her earliest days in the X-Men, and followed her to
> Excalibur, yes. And I agree with you about what's happened to the
> book. <sigh> I had so much hope for it when Wolvesbane joined...

Didn't know she joined. I stopped reading after the Age of Apocalyps
thing. Gave a nice ending point to it. Now the only comics I get are
furry.

> >> >Fuzzybear going to meet a special someone in July also :)
> >> Kewl! Congrats!
> >Thanks! I'm hoping I might get a small gathering of Minnesota furs out
> >there when I'm there. Let my mate meet more furs and have some furs to
> >talk with face to face. :)
>
> Sounds great. I hope when I move to Fla., I can have some meetings
> like that myself. Seem to be a lot of furs there...

I hope you can too! I know a few really good furry friends who live there.
One of them even used to be on ALF before he lost the time to keep up with
it.

> >Fuzzybear who just found a soundtrack for Jekyll & Hyde in his parents CD
> >rack :)
>
> Which one, I wonder? I prefer the original 2-CD set. I really love
> the music, and the storyline. Speaks to me in a lot of ways...

The two cd set in the weird box. Very interesting. :) I liked the one
gossip song especially

Fuzzybear ever expanding his theatre knowledge

Fuzzybear

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Jun 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/8/98

On 7 Jun 1998, The Dragon De Monsyne wrote:

> Uh-huh. The Capybara (a very large, water-dwelling S.American
> rodent) was 'officially' declared a fish by the catholic church, for much
> the same reason.

Wow! It's amazing all the food trivia I'm picking up off this. I didn't
even know people ate the capybara. o_O Interesting how a simple furvey
went into such historical detail and then far ranging facts :)

Fuzzybear pondering the laws broken in his fridge

Fuzzybear

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Jun 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/8/98

On 3 Jun 1998, HPickands wrote:

> I guess Freshman Comp _had_ to get easier if the Frosh are coming in pretty
> much illiterate. They _can't_ comp, so why bother? :P

I feel that professors should bother and either finally teach them or fail
them out of school. I don't like the idea of watering down education until
it's completely worthless and just a daycare center til you become an
adult type of thing.

> High School should be renamed "Low School" perhaps. ;) Oh well, the
> "grad-you-waits" may not know much, but the schools make damn sure they feel
> good about themselves. :/

I was lucky in that I went to a very intensive college preperatory public
high school that has kept it's standards from when it was founded 100
years ago. Teacher's would not let students pass with anything below the
requirements and the requirements are high. I didn't sleep much my Junior
year what with all the work I had to do. I think the lack of sleep helped
break down my puritanical views and let my furriness come forth.

Now though I sometimes wish I didn't have such a good education because
college seems somewhat pitiful in comparison. I took a course on Human
Genetics and didn't learn anything more than what I had learned in the two
weeks we studied Genetics in my High School biology class.

> > What I want to know is why are people in college who don't want to
> >learn?
> Same reasons that have always been there I guess, getting that ticket to big
> bucks after graduation, a chance to party hearty, a shot at big time sports
> action for those muscularly endowed, and in the case of my Freshman year
> roomie, getting away from a domineering mother. Once on his own he went nuts,
> and damn near ruined my college career as he destroyed his own. Hard to study
> with a drunk playing Elvis records at two in the morning. I hate Elvis to this
> day. Have little love for Mau Mau too.
> BTW, that's what everyone called him, and the name fit. :o

I'm fortunate in that my dorm roommates have always been at least
partially dedicated to studying.

> >> Welcome to ALF Fuzzybear. Always nice to have another auspicious ursine
> >around
> >> the place
> >Thanks Harry. Nice to see fellow bears even if I do tend to stand out
> >*waves his five foot tail* :)
> Five _feet_!!! All I have is something like a pom-pom that just sits there all
> unexpressive. Oh well, it doesn't get caught in doors and such. :)

*nod* I think your tail could be quite expressive. Frizzed up when angry
or moving slightly side to side when happy :) My tail is a bit of a
mystery to me as to how I got it. I just have a long tail that most often
follows my will ;)

> >Fuzzybear wondering if Harry might be counting down to AAC? :)
> Verily, it is true! :) The old one is coming, first time out of the lair in
> three years. See ya there! :)
> Harry,
> down to 29 days this morning.

It should be a great con and even closer now! :)

Fuzzybear too lazy to count ;)

Fuzzybear

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Jun 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/8/98

to Duncan da Husky

On Wed, 3 Jun 1998, Duncan da Husky wrote:

> In article <Pine.OSF.3.96.980603...@toto.csustan.edu>,
> Fuzzybear says...
> > I also heard a really good celtic rock group on my ride down to CF9 can't
> > remember the name though. Had a female lead singer and one of the songs
> > was "I am the black unicorn" or something like that. Really cool sounding
> > :) I will of course try and look for your new suggestions. :)
> <grin> That's one of my favorites bands. It's Phoenyx, and the album is
> "Keepers of the Flame." They broke up back in the 80's, but their lead
> singer, Heather Alexander, has put out some excellent solo albums. You
> can get her stuff, as well as stuff by Tempest, from Firebird Arts
> (http://www.firebirdarts.com).

Does it also have Phoenyx cds there? I heard from the person who had the
cd that they are very hard to find.

> > > Nice job on the kilt. Nice legs, too (woo woo!) ;-)
> > *blush* I seem to get that reaction a lot when I wear my kilt. They either
> > say that or "Are you wearing it traditionally? *smirk*" The answer is of
> > course yes, which means I have to be careful when bounding up stairs two
> > at a time in my normal fashion ;)
> Ah, a fine regimental lad! <chuckle> Haven't tried kilts yet, though I
> may yet. I like the look of that style of costuming...

It's also one of the easiest styles of costuming. Just get 6 or 7 yards of
wool cloth in your tartan, pleat it and if you want to cheat sew the
pleats in at the waist area, and there you have a great plaid. To put it
on you have to lay it out on the ground and make youself into a scottish
burrito and belt it on. :) I still have a bit of trouble in dealing with
all the cloth above the waist but each time I wear it I get better at
figuring out how to fold it properly.

> As long as you keep it just snuggling, I can't see why there would be any
> problem. That photograph, though, could cause you some problems (see the
> recent thread by Tae Kwon Doe on alt.fan.furry for why).

I barely have time to keep up with my email and ALF, I doubt I could find
the thread by Tae Kwan Doe. Could you sum it up for me in personal email
or as a post? I like to know what possible dangers I could be putting
myself in.

Fuzzybear still somewhat naive as to the ways of the 'net

Duncan da Husky

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Jun 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/9/98

In article <Pine.OSF.3.96.980608...@toto.csustan.edu>, Fuzzybear <jbu...@toto.csustan.edu> wrote:
>On Wed, 3 Jun 1998, Duncan da Husky wrote:
>> <grin> That's one of my favorites bands. It's Phoenyx, and the album is
>> "Keepers of the Flame." They broke up back in the 80's, but their lead
>> singer, Heather Alexander, has put out some excellent solo albums. You
>> can get her stuff, as well as stuff by Tempest, from Firebird Arts
>> (http://www.firebirdarts.com).
>
>Does it also have Phoenyx cds there? I heard from the person who had the
>cd that they are very hard to find.

Unfortunately, due in part to the fact that the band's breakup was
less-than-amicable, the album is long out of print. I have an original
cassette, but it's starting to die on me (agh!)

>> As long as you keep it just snuggling, I can't see why there would be any
>> problem. That photograph, though, could cause you some problems (see the
>> recent thread by Tae Kwon Doe on alt.fan.furry for why).
>
>I barely have time to keep up with my email and ALF, I doubt I could find
>the thread by Tae Kwan Doe. Could you sum it up for me in personal email
>or as a post? I like to know what possible dangers I could be putting
>myself in.

I was going to say that there were problems with photographs on yerf.com, but
I see I misunderstood the Uploading Guidelines
(http://www.yerf.com/web/rules.htm) - you are allowed one RL photograph of the
artist. I withdraw the comment.

-Duncan da Husky, who really should check these things before he types

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Furry: Duncan da Husky SCA: Duncan MacKinnon of Tobermory

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Michael Tyger

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Jun 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/9/98

On Mon, 8 Jun 1998 01:09:39 -0700, Fuzzybear
<jbu...@toto.csustan.edu> wrote:

>On Wed, 3 Jun 1998, Michael Tyger wrote:
>

>><Snip description of cool werewolf play that I can't remember by name>

>> Don't know that one, though I know I would've loved it! I saw Le
>> Cirque do Quidam just this year, so the memories are still pretty
>> fresh <G> I missed my chance to see Carol Channing, I was still in
>> college, and it was a case of study for a final I had the next day, or
>> go see Hello Dolly... I was able to see Jerry Lewis in Damn Yankees,
>> tho'. I'd had my doubts, but he made a _great_ devil...
>

>It was the opposite for me. Carol Channing was around during a break and I
>missed Lewis in Damn Yankees because of college. My parents got to see it
>though. I'm really itching to go see some more plays now :) There are a
>few good ones playing in San Francisco right now.

Hope you get a chance! I rilly love plays, musicals esp. You get
more of a feeling of being part of the show with them, than you do
with a movie...

>> >Yeah but still writing is not really my strong point I could tell the
>> >story to someone else and have them write it but when I do things myself I
>> >end up making them too short and confusing. *I* know what's supposed to be
>> >going on so I forget to clarify things for the readers. I can't believe
>> >you see some potential in that silly story though :)
>>
>> There's potential in everything, I think. One of the stories I
>> managed to sell professionally was nothing more than a slice-of-life
>> piece about a farmer on an alien world, who just learned the Earth had
>> been destroyed. Eugh, that sounded like bragging... But I really
>> think that if your muse saw fit to send you that story for a reason.
>> You ought to find out why.
>

>Doesn't seem like bragging to me. Congratulations on being published! I
>know I should probably just write the dang thing but I've never been
>really the kind to be able to sit down and start writing something and not
>finish it before getting up again. This story would be longer than one
>sitting and I can't just leave stuff hanging like that.

It's not easy, I'll grant you. I've had to train myself to be able to
break away from something and not try to finish it all in one session
(especially since doing so usually isn't _possible_ in my lifestyle).
And often it actually helps. Often, when I come back to something
after a day or two, or even longer (I always keep several irons in the
fire, several stories that I'm working on, so if I get bored with one
and/or can't concentrate on it, I can work on another), I end up with
a new take on it which turns out better than the one I started with.
My stories rarely finish in exactly the same way I originally planned
them...

>> >You must have read Excalibur then :) Greatest Marvel comic book with lots
>> >of furries in it. I was extrememly mad at them when they turned it into
>> >just another X-men book and kicked all the good parts out of it. That's
>> >another talent I have: likeing comic books that are mangled or canceled
>> >almost immediately after I find them :/
>>
>> I liked Kitty from her earliest days in the X-Men, and followed her to
>> Excalibur, yes. And I agree with you about what's happened to the
>> book. <sigh> I had so much hope for it when Wolvesbane joined...
>

>Didn't know she joined. I stopped reading after the Age of Apocalyps
>thing. Gave a nice ending point to it. Now the only comics I get are
>furry.

That's about how I've gotten. Got bored with all the nonsense going
on in the DC and Marvel worlds...plus I seem to have made my furriness
an even larger part of my life than it already was, so it kinda fits.
Comix about hairless apes just seem so boring, now...

>> >> >Fuzzybear going to meet a special someone in July also :)
>> >> Kewl! Congrats!
>> >Thanks! I'm hoping I might get a small gathering of Minnesota furs out
>> >there when I'm there. Let my mate meet more furs and have some furs to
>> >talk with face to face. :)
>>
>> Sounds great. I hope when I move to Fla., I can have some meetings
>> like that myself. Seem to be a lot of furs there...
>

>I hope you can too! I know a few really good furry friends who live there.

>One of them even used to be on ALF before he lost the time to keep up with
>it.

I've met several on-line, and Gwynvyd knows even more. 'course, she's
the main reason I wanna move there...

>> >Fuzzybear who just found a soundtrack for Jekyll & Hyde in his parents CD
>> >rack :)
>>
>> Which one, I wonder? I prefer the original 2-CD set. I really love
>> the music, and the storyline. Speaks to me in a lot of ways...
>

>The two cd set in the weird box. Very interesting. :) I liked the one
>gossip song especially

Actually, I can think of two gossip songs, "Murder, Murder" and
"Bitch, Bitch Bitch". Both are excellent, tho' my favorite songs in
the set are still "Alive" and "It's a Dangerous Game". I think I like
the latter one best, still...seems like a very furry song to me.
Admittedly I tend to see the world in feline terms (can't think why
=^. ,^=), but whenever I hear it, I still envision a male tiger-morph
(Hyde, of course) romancing a woman (possibly a morph, tho' not
neccessarily), luring her into a world of lust that she's not really
prepared for...gotta put that in a story, someday...

Michael Tyger
--toldja I tend to find story ideas everywhere...

Allen Kitchen

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Michael Tyger <MHans...@aol.com> wrote in article
<357cc3ff....@news.rat.org>...

> On Mon, 8 Jun 1998 01:09:39 -0700, Fuzzybear
> <jbu...@toto.csustan.edu> wrote:
> >Doesn't seem like bragging to me. Congratulations on being published! I
> >know I should probably just write the dang thing but I've never been
> >really the kind to be able to sit down and start writing something and
not
> >finish it before getting up again. This story would be longer than one
> >sitting and I can't just leave stuff hanging like that.
>
> It's not easy, I'll grant you. I've had to train myself to be able to
> break away from something and not try to finish it all in one session
> (especially since doing so usually isn't _possible_ in my lifestyle).
> And often it actually helps. Often, when I come back to something
> after a day or two, or even longer (I always keep several irons in the
> fire, several stories that I'm working on, so if I get bored with one
> and/or can't concentrate on it, I can work on another), I end up with
> a new take on it which turns out better than the one I started with.
> My stories rarely finish in exactly the same way I originally planned
> them...

Fuzzybear: Try writing in Chapter form. Break the story up into
chapter lengths you can reasonably expect to complete in a day or
two. Then you can work on the next chapter. And then the next,
and so on. Also, if you make a plot mistake, it is much easier
to go back to that spot in chapter 3 to fix it...

What's REALLY hard is writing in 30 minute spurts. It's all but
impossible to keep continuity of action when the keyboard isn't
even warm before you get called away. If possible, keep at it
for 1.5 hours or more continuous.

And Michael is right. Keep 2 or 3 ideas running around. When you
get tired of working on one, you jump to another for awhile. I do this
alot myself. It helps.

BTW Michael: My congrats also on getting published! I've just taken
my first stab at the Writers of the Future competition. Wish this wolf
luck.

Allen Kitchen (shockwave)
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Furry Wurry

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In article <Pine.OSF.3.96.980608...@toto.csustan.edu>,
Fuzzybear <jbu...@toto.csustan.edu> writes:

> Now though I sometimes wish I didn't have such a good education because
> college seems somewhat pitiful in comparison. I took a course on Human
> Genetics and didn't learn anything more than what I had learned in the two
> weeks we studied Genetics in my High School biology class.

It sounds like it may be a bit late for some of these, but
there are several options you should consider, depending on your situation:
a) discuss the situation with your faculty advisor
b) take advanced placement exams to get credit for what you
already know
c) persuade the appropriate professors to let you skip some
of the introductory courses
d) apply for a transfer to a more rigorous institution

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Michael Tyger

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Jun 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/10/98

On 9 Jun 1998 13:30:47 GMT, "Allen Kitchen" <all...@blkbox.com> wrote:

>Fuzzybear: Try writing in Chapter form. Break the story up into
>chapter lengths you can reasonably expect to complete in a day or
>two. Then you can work on the next chapter. And then the next,
>and so on. Also, if you make a plot mistake, it is much easier
>to go back to that spot in chapter 3 to fix it...

Good advice. I try to do that myself. It tends to be easier, at
least for me, to see a large project as a bunch of smaller pieces,
than one humongous item. It can get overwhelming otherwise.

>What's REALLY hard is writing in 30 minute spurts. It's all but
>impossible to keep continuity of action when the keyboard isn't
>even warm before you get called away. If possible, keep at it
>for 1.5 hours or more continuous.

Again, a good plan, though not always easy. A lot of the "how to
write" books say 30 minutes, but I think that's too short a time, you
can spend that long just getting your thoughts together. 1-1/2 hours
is a good length of time. Another good thing to do is to carefully
set up your writing area so there're few distractions to take your
mind away from your work, and a nice, comfortable environment to work
in--it's very hard to be creative, I've found, when you're
uncomfortable. Your "writing area" includes your own body, BTW--loose
clothing is best, or, if you're like me, _no_ clothing. Keeping a
thermos mug filled with your favorite drink handy is another good tip,
snacks also if you're so inclined. And, tho' this is my personal
preference, I think those who say silence is best for creative work
are wrong. If you have any tapes or CD's that make you feel more
creative, play 'em. I find too much quiet to be oppressive,
distracting me instead of focusing my attention.

>And Michael is right. Keep 2 or 3 ideas running around. When you
>get tired of working on one, you jump to another for awhile. I do this
>alot myself. It helps.

<chuckle> My record so far is 7...

>BTW Michael: My congrats also on getting published! I've just taken
>my first stab at the Writers of the Future competition. Wish this wolf
>luck.

Best of luck! Tho' really, my publishing credits are nothing
special--for my first I placed third in a contest put on by a
convention in NC (1st and 2nd got paid for their stories, missed it by
_that_ much, but at least I got published in their anthology), and the
second was only a small local publication. <G> Probably just as
well...it was a _very_ short story...couldn't sell it to the magazines
for just that reason. <EG> Still tempted to send a copy of the book
to the asshole who sent me a letter saying, "You need to concentrate
on _longer_ works, you could never _possibly_ publish something _this_
short..." <chuckle> Thanks, tho'.

Michael Tyger

Allen Kitchen

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Jun 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/10/98

Michael Tyger <MHans...@aol.com> wrote in article

<357e0649....@news.rat.org>...

> >What's REALLY hard is writing in 30 minute spurts. It's all but
> >impossible to keep continuity of action when the keyboard isn't
> >even warm before you get called away. If possible, keep at it
> >for 1.5 hours or more continuous.
>
> Again, a good plan, though not always easy. A lot of the "how to
> write" books say 30 minutes, but I think that's too short a time, you
> can spend that long just getting your thoughts together. 1-1/2 hours
> is a good length of time. Another good thing to do is to carefully
> set up your writing area so there're few distractions to take your
> mind away from your work, and a nice, comfortable environment to work
> in--it's very hard to be creative, I've found, when you're
> uncomfortable.

Heh. I've a wife and a toddler. Short of sticking them in a bubble
of Nulltime, I'll be interrupted repeatedly for a long time.

> I think those who say silence is best for creative work
> are wrong. If you have any tapes or CD's that make you feel more
> creative, play 'em.

I do this sometimes. And sometimes the song becomes the story.
Depends on my mood I guess. But a good CD is a help for masking
out background and letting your prose flow, yes. I agree.

> >And Michael is right. Keep 2 or 3 ideas running around. When you
> >get tired of working on one, you jump to another for awhile. I do this
> >alot myself. It helps.
>
> <chuckle> My record so far is 7...

Ack! I currently have 3. After I catch my breath I'll get to work on
them.
I couldn't keep 7 bouncing in my head unless it were my sole job in life!
They'd jumble up in an instant.

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