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Everybody knows that the male homosexual loves to have sex in areas that
have the smell of shit in them or are easily accessable by children.
Mainly, rest stops and public bathrooms.. I have gotten a list of places
where the perverts have taken over to do public sex and masturbation
at. I list the state of Alabama for a start, and this comes directly
from infilterating the homosexual rights movement.

Places in Alabama where homosexuals are having public sex and trying to
recruit your children. Remember, this is directly from the perverted
male homosexuals themselves

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Anniston:
>> LeGuarde Park off Quintard Drive. Cruisy park, toilets. "About 50
acres of wellness trails, hiking, and located near Fort McClellan. Many
bathrooms and off-the-beaten-path kinda trails. Peak activity on Friday
and Saturday nights." Located at the intersection of Quintard and
Highway 431.

This report from February, 1998:

"Acres of trails and woods, lots of bathooms, and the area is heavy with
traffic. You will find lots of public sex on the trails, and very little
police attention. For action, park your car at the dead end near the
walking trail or at the upper end of the park near the recreation
center."

Another report from July, 1998:

"Best place in Alabama for park sex. Hot action from dawn til the park
closes at 10 pm. Lots of trails and bathrooms with stalls, but it's not
unusual to see sucking and fucking in the parking lot. One night
recently I saw a guy sucking, taking it deep in his ass and stroking
another guy off, all at the same time. Some older guys troll for
blowjobs, but also many military and college age guys."

>> Delta Express Station off I-20 at the Oxford Exit (1203 Quintard
Drive). This truck stop has an active tearoom. No doors on stalls, but
hot heavy action. Open 24-hrs; best action evenings & weekends.

Ashville:

>> Rest area on I-59 between Gadsden and Birmingham. Both north and
south sides. Used to be very HOT, but slowed some since remodeling.

Birmingham:

>> Bradford Park, on Edward Lake Road. Cruisy park. "Plenty of trails
and places to make out."

An update from May, 1998:

"It is patroled, but cops are pretty easy to spot. Usually sitting in
cars staring in direction of trails. Miles and miles of trails behind
the park where you can walk around nude and anything goes. Easy to hear
anyone approaching."

>> Cahaba River Road Park. Cruisy park. "Trails along the river are
cruisy, especially around lunch and 3 to 5 pm." Located at the
Jefferson/Shelby county line. From Highway 280 east exit to right before
Cahaba River Bridge then turn left. The parking area is on the right.

A note from February, 1999:

"Land owners are taking pictures of everyone who goes near the place and
turning them over to the sheriff's department."

>> Century Plaza Mall. Cruisy toilet in Sears, second floor by
electronics. From I-24, take the Oporto Road exit.

This note arrived in February, 1999:

"The bathrooms inside Sears are now closed to the public. I must use the
restroom near the food court."

>> "Highland Park can get very busy. You will get the hang of it,
especially if you make about 3 laps. Can get very exciting."

>> Jefferson County Corthouse. Cruisy toilets on the first and third
floor. "You'll find no stall doors, but you can hear people coming
before they arrive." Located downtown, on 21st Street north.

>> Rushton Park, in the Highland Park neighborhood. Anyone can tell you
how to get there. Cars cruising at all hours. Police are bad after dark.
Frequented by hustlers.

This update from May, 1998:

"The park has been closed by the police from 10 pm - 6 am. I was there
this week and was approached by the police. Lots of guys cruising in
cars, but also lots of cops pulling people over."

>> Texaco Truck Mart, Findley Blvd. Cruisy toilet. "A convience store
and truck stop with 2 stall bathroom and large gloryhole between
stalls." Located off I-65.

>> West Homewood Park, West Oxmoor Road. Cruisy park. Located near
Wildwood Center. "Best and safest action is in parking lots or on the
side of the road which winds through the park near the entrance.
Evenings between dinner and when park closes at 10 are best - any night
of the week."

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>> Alabama Adult Books, 801 3rd Avenue North; 322-7323. Bookstore with
arcade. Open 24 hours.

This update from January, 1999:

"New arcades take tokens. There are several gloryholes, and the cruising
is hot. I even watched one guy getting fucked in a booth with a peephole
in it."

A report from April, 1999:

"Several gloryholes and some booths are big enough for 2 - 3 people.
Good movies, too."

>> Birmingham Adult Books, 7610 First Avenue North; 836-1580; open 24
hours.

This report from January, 1998:

"Birmingham Adult Books is hotter then ever. It has an 'anything goes
mentality,' and the owners have put up a bulletin board in the bathroom
with a marker and a sign saying 'swingers.'"

Another update from February, 1998:

"This place is hot. The first time I got my cock sucked by a man was in
this place (the guy literally forced his way into my pod!) and I kept
coming back for more. Especially good after 10 in the evening. I've
never had to do anything in the bathroom, but it does depend on what
'pod' you are in. Be careful of the attendant at the front. I've never
heard of any vice being there, although that doesn't mean it is not
there."

>> Pleasure Books East, 7606 First Avenue North, at 77th Street,
Eastlake; exit at 77th; 836-7379. Bookstore with arcade; Mon-Sat 9
a.m.-1 a.m., Sun noon-midnite. Preview booths.

We have this update to share:

"You can rent a movie for $5.40 and have it played in a swiveling video
'pod' chair in the back. Signs say to keep your chair facing the TV or
be thrown out. However, I stopped by at 2 AM on a recent Tuesday to find
several interested men wandering to the bathroom or the drink machine.
When they did, they would walk close enough for you to turn slightly and
show them what was up. A quick trip to the bathroom together is possible
since the attendant seems more interested in watching porn than the
security cameras."

>> Screening Room, 2130 2nd Avenue South. Theatre showing porn. "Front
half, with a screen and two televisions, shows straight videos. Back
half, with one television showing gay videos. Men and hot action can be
found there most any time and day, and day of the week."

This e-mail from February, 1999:

"Inside action is ok, but heavily patrolled. Parking lot used to be
jumping, but now is completely dead."

>> Top Hat Theatre, 9221 Todd Drive; 205-833-8221. Theatre showing porn,
arcade. "A somewhat seedy theatre. Arcades have no gloryholes. Always
someone in the theatre willing to give a blowjob, but it is usually
trolls. With a little patience younger guys come in hungry for cock."
Open Monday - Saturday 9 am - 1 am, Sunday noon - midnight. In the Kmart
shopping center parking lot.

This note from February, 1999:

"Still some action. Mostly old folks."

>> Video Xtra, West Valley Avenue. Visit the "key club" in the back. You
have to buy a key for $4.00. Only a few gay videos, but alot of cruising
around the bathroom.

This report from May, 1998:

"Didn't see much cruising in the backroom when I went there, but I still
got really lucky. A guy, who was looking around when I went in, was
waiting on me out in the parking lot."

Boaz:

>> Boaz Nature Park on South King Street. Not that active, but GREAT
potential! There's a hiking trail and a secluded area on the creek. Best
times are before or after lunch. Park closes at dusk.

>> Factory Outlet Shopping Center. The outside restroom, very close to
Vanity Fair Outlet, across from the Bible store. Wonderful large
gloryhole, but no door on center stall. Great action.

Cuba:

>> Phillips 66, on I-20 at exit 1. Cruisy toilet.

This report from October, 1998:

"The toilet does have a gloryhole, but the door to the first stall has
been removed. Getting something done is still possible I suppose, but
during the hour that I was there nothing at all came around looking to
play."

Cullman:

>> Heritage Park. Cruisy park, toilets. "Bathrooms are usually active
after 5 pm each evening on weekdays and all day on Sundays. Usually
attracts the younger crowd. The heaviest cruise area is at the rear of
the park near bathrooms." From I-65, take exit 304. Drive north to
Woodland Community Medical Center on left. Take a left into the medical
center parking lot and then an immediate right to go behind hospital.
Parking is at the back of hospital lot or use the back parking lot of
the park across the street. See 'Head's Up'

>> Kmart, 2nd Avenue South and Cherokee Avenue. Cruisy toilet in rear.
"The restroom can get very cruisy sometimes. Understall action happens
plus I have seen two guys in one stall. Most of the time you can hear if
anyone is coming. Hit or miss action."

Decatur:

>> Decatur Athletic Club, Second Avenue. Cruisy healthclub. "They have
excellent shower facilities in big private dressing rooms that have
locks on the doors. Believe me: there is fun going on behind those
locked doors. This place is not just for muscleheads. Lots of bears,
strong black brothers, twinks, and executive looking fellas." Open 24
hours. Located downtown off Second Avenue behind the tobacco shop.

>> 'The Pumps', on the Tennessee River. Cruisy park. "Lots of trails in
the woods on the Tennessee River side of the park. Go through the
entrance and drive towards the woods to the left. Guys frequent the many
trails all along the wooded areas, but the left side seems more active.
I have seen lots of guys going and cumming from the woods." Located at
Highway 72 and 31 on the river.

>> River Oaks Mall. Cruisy toilet near the customer service desk at
Castner Knott's. "Action can be found especially around 11 am to 2 pm,
which seems to be a lunch crowd of male mall employees. The handicapped
stall is very roomy, and fun can be had by 2 or more. Be careful of mall
security, but I have seen them in there having fun too."

Dothan:

>> Wiregrass Commons Mall. Cruisy toilets: in Gayfers men's department.;
near the food court. "There is some action in the evenings, but it
mostly happens during the day."

Eufaula:

>> Lakepoint State Park. Cruisy toilet. "Heavy cruising weekdays around
the beach showers between 11 am - 5 pm. There is a gloryhole, but who
needs it? If you are on your way to the beach give it a try."

An update from October, 1998:

"Cruising is as good as ever, everyone from route salesman to off duty
cops seem to be paying the place a visit. Best times to visit are from
11 am till 2 pm."

Eutaw:

>> Amoco Truckstop, on I-20 at exit 45. Cruisy toilet. "It has an
upstairs restroom and shower room for truckers on the backside of the
truckstop. The first two stalls have huge gloryholes and even the shower
stalls have huge gloryholes between them. Almost everyone that goes
upstairs is cruising and the workers never seem concerned. In fact, I
think they may have cut the holes, because they are so big and they have
never attempted to close them."

This report from October, 1998:

"There is now a new gloryhole between the last 2 stalls. This is in
addition to the 2 gloryholes between the first 2 stalls and the
gloryhole between the last 2 shower stalls. Through the years, I've
spent a fair amount of time here as it's rare to find a truck stop with
a gloryhole these days. This place can pay off if you are patient and
you don't mind older guys most of the time."

Fairhope:
>> Mullet Point Park, on County Road 1 just south of Alternate US 98,
eight miles south of Fairhope. Old-fashioned outhouse, with gloryholes.

Bad news from March, 1998:

"The toilets are closed due to complaining neighbors. Too bad, it was
very active last summer!"

Florence:

>> McFarland Park, on the Savannah Highway. Cruisy parking lot, toilet.
"This park has car cruising and some bathroom cruising. As for the car
cruising, most are married men wanting somebody to give them a little
head and nothing more. They usually ride through the park and park their
cars and wait for somebody to show a sign of interest. There is very
little bathroom cruising since the bathrooms are closed during the
colder months." Located behind/adjacent to the water slides (on the
Tennessee River) as you cross the O'Neal Bridge (Highway 72/43) into
downtown.

>> Veteran's Park. Cruisy parking lot, toilet. "It is usually hit and
miss. A mix of car cruising and bathroom cruising." Located off Cox
Creek Parkway near the Renaissance Tower.

>> Wilson Park. Cruisy park. "Every night people cruise around the park
and the surrounding blocks. A few people do get out and congregate in a
social manner at benches on the south side of the park. Police know
about this area and sometimes run people out of the park." Located near
the main downtown post office.

Foley:
>> Foley Video, 1119 North McKenzie Street; 943-6828.

Fort Payne:

>> County Court House in center of town. Restroom can be hit and miss.

>> DeSoto Falls, between DeSoto State Park and Mentone. Restroom, large
gloryhole. Hit and miss action. Trail close to restroom said to have
some action.

>> Kmart. Cruisy toilet. "Hit and miss. Usually young crowd."

Gulf Shores:
>> Bon Secour Wildlife Refuge. Nude sun bathing and cruisy beach. "The
reserve sits on 7000 acres. This is potentially the best cruising beach
in the area. White sand dunes are 50 feet high and thus, great for
getting naked." Located on Highway 180 at Mile marker 12, 9 miles
outside of Gulf Shores. Take dirt road to beach. See 'Head's Up'

>> Main Beach Pavilion, days. Check out the graffiti and gloryholes.

>> Romar Beach Pavilion, several miles east of the main pavilion on SR
182.

Guntersville:

>> There's a great pavillion just off Hwy 431 on Sunset Drive across
from "I Think" Kiwanis Pier on the lake. It's the first public area you
come to off of Hwy 431. Bathroom is open pretty much all the time, and
there is this long ramp leading to a picnic area overlooking the lake.
If you're up there, you "know" if someone is approaching.

Homewood:

>> Kmart, Oxmoor Road and Greensprings. Cruisy toilet in rear of store.

This note from January, 1999:

"The gloryhole is gone and employees have cleaned up the restroom and
patrol it often."

Huntsville:
>> Brahan Spring Park, on Drake Avenue. "Lots of cruising. There is a
restroom with action, no gloryholes but plenty of 'display' space. The
park is a good place to meet people, but not recommended for serious
action. Regular police patrols. Police have been known to use binoculars
to zero in on what is going on."

We have this note from August, 1997:

"This park is dead most of the time. The restrooms are very dangerous.
Too many arrests and too many drug dealers!"

>> Bruno's Grocery Store, Drake and South Memorial Parkway. Cruisy
toilet. "Young bag boys get it hard for you. Hit and miss, but worth a
check."

>> Governors Drive Scenic Overlook. Cruisy parking lot and nearby woods.
Located about 2 miles east of Memorial Parkway.

>> Home Depot Store bathroom has hit and miss action.

>> Huntsville Public Library, downtown. Cruisy toilet on second floor.
"Library downtown is great in the afternoons. In fact, sometimes it is
too active. At times action even overflows to 3rd floor restroom."

This February, 1998 update:

"One regular camps out during lunch and gives the best BJ's EVER! Takes
his time and get's every last drop. The only downside: I hate having to
stand in line."

>> Kmart restroom, South Parkway by Lowe's. Cruisy toilet in rear of
store.

>> "The Land Trust (it is a nature preserve) parking lot is on Bankhead
Parkway. The parking lot has a surveillance camera. Be careful as rumor
has it that local police go there undercover. Good action at lunch and
after work. Closed and locked up after sundown. Mainly families hiking
on weekends. Lots of trails. Connect with men on the main trails and
then head to the woods for serious action."

>> Madison Square Mall on University Drive. "Sears tearoom has one
gloryhole. Lots of guys connect there and then make the circuit of
restrooms throughout the major stores in the mall."

A report from February, 1998:

"They have now put in new metal stalls. There is still some action, but
the peep holes are gone. In spite of these changes, I have recently
witnessed 2 blow jobs and given one myself on one day, so it is
definitely still active!

This update from March, 1998:

"The Sear's men's room is again very active. Some cruising by older men
during day, and a more mixed crowd in the evening and on weekends. Very,
very active lately."

>> Monte Sano State Park. Cruisy toilet, park. "Lunch and afternoons are
good in the park restroom with peepholes. Also, cruisy overlooks and
trails." Take Bankhead Parkway up mountain to state park.

>> Parkway City Mall, on the corner of Memorial Parkway & Drake Avenue.
Main mall restrooms are very active. In fact, they are usually too busy
so most guys meet there and then go to McRaes Department store men's
room upstairs. Great afternoon action.

>> Street cruising around YMCA, Green to Eustis, to Lincoln, and down to
Randolph or Clinton, downtown. "There is cruising in cars, night time
only -- usually dark til midnight, but later on weekends."

Jacksonville:
>> City Park in Jacksonville, Highway 21, adjacent to Federal Mogul in
industrial park. Excellent bathroom.

Lillian:

>> Small park on County 99 off Highway 98. Park is a bit off the road,
with trails down the bluff. Nice wooded area at bottom of the bluffs.

Madison:

>> Conoco Gas Station at Highway 20 and Wall Triana Blvd. Cruisy toilet.
"They've recently painted over the writing on the walls, but instead of
calling the cops or closing the toilet, they put a bucket in the men's
room with a pencil and scraps of paper for people to write on. There's a
large note on the wall proclaiming 'OK guys, please do not write on the
walls. Here's a container and a pencil and paper so you can leave your
friends notes for whatever, wherever. Please flush the toilet and clean
up after yourselves, since we do not want to have to close the restroom
for good.' From I-565, eastbound, exit at the Madison/Wall Triana exit
which is the first exit after the airport. Take a left at the light, and
another left at Highway 20, which is about 1/4 mile down. The station is
about 1/2 mile down, in front of a Kmart. The restroom is in the rear
facing away from the road. A former 'Site of the Week'!

>> Wheeler Wildlife Refuge. Nature trails and boardwalk, some parking
lot/car action. Generally very safe. Weekdays are best, lunch and
afternons until dark. Directions: Go west on Hwy 20 through Madison. At
intersection of County Line road turn left, cross bridge, first right
follow all the way till it dead ends at refuge.

This update to add from May, 1998:

"They have closed all the trails in the non-swampy area with signs every
few feet warning of arrest if anyone walks on them. It is federal land."

Mobile:
>> Cruisy park off Navco Road. "Cruisy around the run-down boathouse."

>> Cruisy park on Old Shell Road and University Blvd., a wooded area on
the northern edge of the University of South Alabama campus. "A large
area of woods at the edge of campus, though it seems to be an area wide
cruising place, not just college campus. The guys I've seen range from
young college types to early 50's. Once into the woods, it's very
secluded with many side paths leading into even more overgrown areas
with small clearings." From the intersection of University Blvd. and Old
Shell Road, go north less than a mile to the third traffic light. Turn
left (only turn possible) then bear to the right onto Health Services
Drive. Go the short distance to the stop sign where the road ends.
Parking lots on the left. Entrance to the woods is directly to the right
of the deadend stop sign.

>> Matthews Park, on Michael Blvd. Cruisy park.

>> Langan Park, on Ziegler Blvd. Cruisy park.

>> Speedway Gas Station, Moffat Road and I-65. Cruisy toilet. "Dick
sucking action and some fucking. Great take home sex. This site is
frequented by married men in need of a blow."

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>> Mid Town Cinema. Theatre showing porn. Located at the corner of
Jackson and Dauphin. The theatre is accessed from the public parking lot
located a half block down Jackson from Dauphin.

>> Southern XTC, 135 North Schillinger Road. Bookstore with arcade.
"They have 10 booths in the back of the store. After you buy tokens from
the cashier they buzz you into the back private room." Driving out
Airport Blvd. heading west, when you get to Schillinger Road turn right
and go 1/2 mile. The store is on your left, in front of Camilla Bowling
Lanes.

>> Tiger's Den on Beltline Highway off of I-65. Bookstore with arcade,
theatre. Located 5 doors north of Barrows Furniture, and next door to
the Orkin pest control.

This report from February, 1998:

"I had the chance to visit two days ago. I have never been in a brand
new adult bookstore before. It is very clean and the staff seems
extremely friendly. The gloryholes are all well cut and smooth and the
backrooms off of the main theater look like they are large enough to
accomodate almost anything that you would like. The clientel was mixed
age and background. The crowd was a little thin, but I am certain that
will pick up."

Another note from March, 1998:

"I went to the Den 2 nights in a row. I found lots of booths that were
big enough for 2 or even 3. Nice gloryholes also, professionaly cut. A
wide variety of men, I was there 45 minutes and got fucked once and
sucked 2 cocks, all 3 were under 30."

Montgomery:
>> Eastdale Mall, Atlanta Highway. Cruisy toilet near food court. "This
bathroom does have a security camera focused on it, but as long as you
don't go in and out of the bathroom 100 times it is usually okay. There
is a gloryhole that gets closed and re-opened often. Usually best to go
around lunch and 6 - 8 pm."

>> Lagoon Park, on Eastern Bypass and Gunter Industrial Park. Cruisy
park. See 'Head's Up'

>> Oak Park, at I-85 and Forrest Avenue. Cruisy park. See 'Head's Up'

>> Shell Truck Stop, on the Montgomery-Troy Highway. This truckstop has
a very cruisy bathroom. Very large gloryhole with stall doors and
partitions raised high off the floor. Go south on the Montgomery-Troy
highway out of Montgomery toward Troy. Travel about 10 minutes; its a
Shell truckstop/restaurant on the left side of the highway.

This update from November, 1998:

"The restrooms are closed and undergoing MASSIVE renovations."

>> Street cruising around the old post office in downtown.

This account from May, 1998:

"The cruising here was amazing last Friday night. I just cruised around
the old post office for a few minutes and a dozen guys were all driving
around. I stopped and picked up this hot guy who sucked me off while I
drove around downtown."

>> Union 76 Truck Plaza, I-85 at Southern Boulevard. Men's restroom
downstairs. Gloryhole comes and goes. Most cruisy after 10 pm.

>> Woodmere Park, on Woodmere Blvd. at Eastern. Cruisy park, toilet.
"Cruisy in the day. The toilet has a large stall and walls to the floor
for privacy. Best times are 11 am - 6 pm on weekdays. Best to avoid on
weekends when families flock to the park. One can also cruise around the
pond after dark on the side behind bathroom." Located behind Sams
Wholesale.

Muscle Shoals:

>> Rockpile Recreation Area. Cruisy park, toilet. "There is a boat ramp,
2 nature trails, and bathroom here. Action is hit and miss. Hard to say
best method of cruising or best time to cruise but been told better at
night." Located below Wilson Dam on TVA property.

New Hope:

>> Oak Mountain State Park. Cruisy park. "A bit cruisy on weekdays and
during cooler times of the year. The best places are the Tranquility Day
Use Area. A small restroom with shower stall can be very cruisy. Most
guys in their mid 20's and up. A trail leads to an abandoned group
camping area with crude cabins. Also, Previne Falls and the trails on
top of the mountian offer great spots. Try the granite outcropping
behind the picnic pavillian for occasional nude sun bathing. Parking
lots are patrolled by park rangers." Located off I-65 on Route 119.

Oxford:

>> Books-A-Million, 900-A Quintard Drive. Cruisy toilet. "This bookstore
is popular with the gay and bisexual crowd. The bathroom is very cruisy.
Times and places frequently are on the walls." Located across the street
from the Quintard Mall.

>> Racetrack Gas, off I-20. Cruisy toilet. "A single stall bathroom.
Lots of action."

Pinson:

>> Turkey Creek Falls. Cruisy park. "Lots of trails with lots of
action." Located off Route 79 near Route 75. Going north on Route 79,
when you reach the intersection to Route 75 turn left and follow the
signs.

Prattville:

>> Cooter's Pond Park, Highway 31. Cruisy parking lot and nearby woods.
"The best times are weekends. Best places for pick ups are the parking
lot on the right when you enter and the top part of the park." From
I-65, get off on Day Street, going past the base entrance heading north
on highway 31 toward Prattville. Cooter's Pond is about three or four
miles on the right hand side of the road in a remote, somewhat secluded
area. See 'Head's Up'

Scottsboro:

>> Kmart. Cruisy toilet in rear of store.

This update from November, 1998:

"Employees are patrolling the room regularly now."

Troy:

>> Wal-Mart, Highway 231. Cruisy toilet. "Nice sized peephole (not
gloryhole sized though) between the last 2 stalls."

Tuscaloosa:

>> McFarland Mall. Cruisy toilet near food court. "There seems to be
moderate activity. There is a gameroom nearby, so the actitvity there
for young ones is best on the weekends. The older crowd is best late in
the evening and mid day."

>> River Road Park. Cruisy park. "Very active now since renovations.
Best times on the trails are after sunset." Take I-359 to River Road
exit. Park is on the left.

>> University Mall. Cruisy toilet near Sears. "Cruisy just about any
time of the day. Three stalls all with doors, and four urinals all with
dividers. Only one small gloryhole between the first and second stall,
but a slightly larger one between the second and third."

Tuscumbia:

>> Spring Park. Cruisy park, toilet. "Some pretty good cruise action.
This is another family park and is watched by police. Bathrooms are
closed during cold months, but are supposedly very busy with action when
they are opened for summer. Some people have sex in the bathroom or the
old barbeque pit pavilion, but it is better to take your trick
elsewhere." Located near the downtown water tower.

Keith R. Brafford

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> I have gotten a list of places where the perverts have taken over
> to do public sex and masturbation

Is this stuff for real?

--Keith

Jack Danger

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Str8pride-

The average gay man does not have sex at rest stops or public restrooms. It
has been well documented, that these men believe that they are straight and
many have wives with families. Most are married men having public sex with
other married men. I think you should be warning women about their husbands
and stop pointing the finger at openly gay men.

-JD

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Billy Kennedy

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At least one Undernet operator, whose nick was "Judi," resigned her
volunteer post following threats made to her life and that of her
9-year-old daughter after she "reopped" a gay channel disrupted by
RevWhite. "After that, he'd come on IRC with nicks like 'KillJudi,'"
Judi says. "He'd say anything ... to somehow prove that I am, as he
claims ... a child molester."

"He called and told me that he intends to kill my child," she
continues. "I grew up terribly abused by my own parents, and I was
proud of myself for having the courage to work through that and break
that cycle. ... I started getting phone calls from all kind of freaks
that he'd given my number to. My husband was furious with me and said,
'Just get off IRC.' But I didn't want to let him win."

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L. Michael Roberts

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Str8Pride wrote:
>
> Everybody knows

Fallacy number one....


> that the male homosexual loves to have sex in areas that
> have the smell of shit in them

Fallacy number two....


> or are easily accessable by children.

Fallacy number three.....


> Mainly, rest stops and public bathrooms.. I

Fallacy number four......


> have gotten a list of places
> where the perverts have taken over to do public sex and masturbation
> at. I list the state of Alabama for a start, and this comes directly
> from infilterating the homosexual rights movement.

Fallacy number four... It does not come form any of the gay rights
groups. If it does, I dare you to post the URL but I know you won't
you are too cowardly. It comes form a gay site devoted to porno and
sleaze - yes they do exist just as heterosexual porno/sleaze sites
exist.

Now what did the Bible have to say about bearing false witness
against you neighbour again?

YOU, Str8pride/Rev. White are the one who is spending hundreds, if
not thousands, of hours researching such material and posting it to
the net.... YOU are the one who obsessively posts sexually related
materials to the gay newsgroups.... YOU are the one who always
brings up the the subject of gay sex.... YOU are the one who is
always mentioning scat....
Apparently you are the gay coprapheliac in this news group. Why
don't you just come out and get over it?

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John De Salvio

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In article <7me7rm$429$1...@news.duke.edu>, "Keith R. Brafford"
<k...@ee.duke.edu> wrote:

> Str8Pride <caroli...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:378A9A6B...@hotmail.com...

> > I have gotten a list of places where the perverts have taken over
> > to do public sex and masturbation
>

> Is this stuff for real?

Str8Pride is a joke.

A sick joke.

--
John

NOTE: "From" address is deliberately wrong.
My correct e-mail address is:

desalvio["AT" SYMBOL]monitor.net

stage door johnny

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fuck you, you sick, phony, christian bastard!

Str8Pride wrote in message <378A9A6B...@hotmail.com>...

Gregory Gadow

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Str8Pride wrote:

> Everybody knows that the male homosexual loves to have sex in areas that
> have the smell of shit in them or are easily accessable by children.
> Mainly, rest stops and public bathrooms.. I have gotten a list of places
> where the perverts have taken over to do public sex and masturbation
> at. I list the state of Alabama for a start, and this comes directly
> from infilterating the homosexual rights movement.

Hmm... a quite extensive list for someone who feels he has to beat his chest
and scream "I'M NOT QUEER!" at the top of his voice.

And tell me: have you seen a similar list of where heterosexual female
prostitutes hang out (pardon the expression) looking to attract straight
men? A list of all the public alley ways and doorways and even (gasp!) rest
areas, parks, bars, clubs and bookstores where female prostitutes conduct
business for their male clientele? Good heavens, such a list for Mobile
would be more extensive than the one you somehow compiled for the entire
state of Alabama.

So who are the perverts, alleged str8 boy?

--
Gregory Gadow
E-mail: tech...@serv.net
American Liberal Party: http://www.americanliberal.org

I am a resident of Washington State. Any commerical e-mail sent with
false or misleading headers is in violation of state law and subject
to a $500 penalty. I WILL FILE CHARGES!

Myk

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You've infiltrated the the secret sex club for
closet case Gay people - not the Gay rights
movement. The people who seek anonymous sex in
uncomfortably public meeting places are precisely
the people who have given up on any possibility of
Gay rights. The possibility of being in a happy
open committed Gay relationship is not real to
such people. For one example I cite the "cured
ex-gay" Rev. Norman Boyd - who posts here in
A.P.H. with great regularity.

I think it's disgusting, cruising for sex in
established queer meeting places that are
otherwise public. It has nothing to do with Gay
rights. We want the right to be open about our
sexuality and relationships - to exit the shadows
and participate in public life openly homosexual.
Anti Gay activism promotes hypocrisy, shame - and
anyonymous underground public sex. This is your
work. -Be proud?

Myk

Myk

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John De Salvio wrote:


> A sick joke.

Public bathroom sex is a reality in NYC. It is
real. It is revolting.

Myk

Str8Pride

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its real, and its comes from the largest gay site in the world,
www.cruisingforsex.com

Keith R. Brafford wrote:

> Str8Pride <caroli...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:378A9A6B...@hotmail.com...

> > I have gotten a list of places where the perverts have taken over
> > to do public sex and masturbation
>

> Is this stuff for real?
>

> --Keith


Str8Pride

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The homosexuals must seem to think I am the homosexual Fred Phelps!!!!


Str8Pride

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Perverted Jack Danger wrote:

> Str8pride-
>
> The average gay man does not have sex at rest stops or public restrooms. It
> has been well documented, that these men believe that they are straight and
> many have wives with families. Most are married men having public sex with
> other married men. I think you should be warning women about their husbands
> and stop pointing the finger at openly gay men.
>
> -JD

well, start providing the documentation.

Str8Pride

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stage door johnny wrote:

> fuck you, you sick, phony, christian bastard!
>

1) no thanks to fuck you, I dont have sex with perverted homosexuals

2) I am not sick, I feel very well.

3) You assume I am a Christian, I guess your HIV cocktail is playing with
your brain again.

Str8Pride

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There is no list on the web for heterosexual places like that. But there are
plenty for the homosexuals.
Later this week, a new state listing.

Str8Pride

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Boyd is not a ex-homosexual, he is a homosexual. A recovering one perhaps, but
a homosexual nethertheless. An drug addict or a alcholic is always an a drug
addict or a alcholic, just recovering. Same with Boyd, except that he admits
that he still looks at boys penises, he is a homosexual.


Myk wrote:

> You've infiltrated the the secret sex club for
> closet case Gay people - not the Gay rights
> movement. The people who seek anonymous sex in
> uncomfortably public meeting places are precisely
> the people who have given up on any possibility of
> Gay rights. The possibility of being in a happy
> open committed Gay relationship is not real to
> such people. For one example I cite the "cured
> ex-gay" Rev. Norman Boyd - who posts here in
> A.P.H. with great regularity.
>
> I think it's disgusting, cruising for sex in
> established queer meeting places that are
> otherwise public. It has nothing to do with Gay
> rights. We want the right to be open about our
> sexuality and relationships - to exit the shadows
> and participate in public life openly homosexual.
> Anti Gay activism promotes hypocrisy, shame - and
> anyonymous underground public sex. This is your
> work. -Be proud?
>
> Myk
>
> Str8Pride wrote:
> >

Robert Serrano

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Str8Pride wrote:
>
> its real, and its comes from the largest gay site in the world,
> www.cruisingforsex.com

For a supposedly "straight" person, you sure do spend a lot of time
cruising gay web sites. Otherwise how would you know that this site is
"the largest gat site in the world?" I mean you couldn't possibly be
stupid enough to take a site's assertion that is the largest as the
truth. Could you?

Rob

>
> Keith R. Brafford wrote:
>
> > Str8Pride <caroli...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:378A9A6B...@hotmail.com...

> > > I have gotten a list of places where the perverts have taken over
> > > to do public sex and masturbation
> >

Speedbyrd® :>

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Str8Pride <caroli...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:378BFF73...@hotmail.com...

>
>
> Perverted Jack Danger wrote:
>
> > Str8pride-
> >
> > The average gay man does not have sex at rest stops or public restrooms.
It
> > has been well documented, that these men believe that they are straight
and
> > many have wives with families. Most are married men having public sex
with
> > other married men. I think you should be warning women about their
husbands
> > and stop pointing the finger at openly gay men.
> >
> > -JD
>
> well, start providing the documentation.
>
>


Who are you to demand anyone provide anything? I demand you come to terms
with your own sexual frustration.

Speedbyrd® :>

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Str8Pride <caroli...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Try harder, there is such a list.

Robert Serrano

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Str8Pride wrote:
>
> The homosexuals must seem to think I am the homosexual Fred Phelps!!!!

Why do you think that? Most of us think you're as much a discredit to
straights as Fred Phelps is. Therefore, you are the heterosexual Fred
Phelps. That is, an incompetent boob sent here to discredit
heterosexuals to the fullest extent of your ability.

Rob

Robert Serrano

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Str8Pride wrote:


>
> Perverted Jack Danger wrote:
>
> > Str8pride-
> >
> > The average gay man does not have sex at rest stops or public restrooms. It
> > has been well documented, that these men believe that they are straight and
> > many have wives with families. Most are married men having public sex with
> > other married men. I think you should be warning women about their husbands
> > and stop pointing the finger at openly gay men.
> >
> > -JD
>

> well, start providing the documentation.

Don't have to. YOU made the accusation, you provide the documentation.
www.cruisingforsex.com is NOT documentation, nor is any other adult sex
site you may happen to find (look up some heterosexual adult sites and
compare them to the real world, and you'll see why).

Rob

Robert Serrano

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Str8Pride wrote:


>
> stage door johnny wrote:
>
> > fuck you, you sick, phony, christian bastard!
> >
>

> 1) no thanks to fuck you, I dont have sex with perverted homosexuals

And you don't have a chance with the non-perverted homosexuals.



> 2) I am not sick, I feel very well.

Your posting say otherwise. I trust you have a doctor's note explaining
where your brain is.



> 3) You assume I am a Christian, I guess your HIV cocktail is playing with
> your brain again.

You deny that you're a Christian and then use the Bible to justify your
rambling. Maybe the Mad Cow disease has progressed farther than you
thought.

Rob

Robert Serrano

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Str8Pride wrote:
>
> There is no list on the web for heterosexual places like that. But there are
> plenty for the homosexuals.

Well, you've just lied, str8. There are sites dedicated to
heterosexuals having sex in public places. I've found them. Amazingly
enough, if you don't put the words homosexual, gay or lesbian in a web
search, you find tons of perverted sites devoted to heterosexuals.

> Later this week, a new state listing.

I take it then that you're going down the lists one by one and verifying
that elicit things go on there.

Rob

Jack Danger

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Str8pride-

Does it matter who is having public sex? The issue is unwanted behavior and
how to stop it.


Str8Pride <caroli...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:378C001F...@hotmail.com...

> There is no list on the web for heterosexual places like that. But there
are
> plenty for the homosexuals.

Patrick of Las Vegas

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Str8Pride <caroli...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> There is no list on the web for heterosexual places like that.

Sure there is, just in a different form. If you type in "brothel" in just
about any search engine, you will find a plethora of sights listing all of
the legal brothels here in the great State of Nevada. And in this state,
there are no brothels that cater to gay men or lesbians.

Patrick of Las Vegas


RavensHeart

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On Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:06:26 -0400, Str8Pride
<caroli...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>The homosexuals must seem to think I am the homosexual Fred Phelps!!!!
>
>

No. You are the homophobic Rev. White.


L. Michael Roberts

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Str8Pride wrote:
>
> The homosexuals must seem to think I am the homosexual Fred Phelps!!!!

No... You are the closeted homosexual Rev. White!!

L. Michael Roberts

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Str8Pride wrote:
>
> stage door johnny wrote:
>
> > fuck you, you sick, phony, christian bastard!
> >
>
> 1) no thanks to fuck you, I dont have sex with perverted homosexuals

Provide proof!

>
> 2) I am not sick, I feel very well.

Funny you act as if you were mentally ill!

>
> 3) You assume I am a Christian, I guess your HIV cocktail is playing with
> your brain again.

YOU were the one spouting Bible verses a couple of posts back....

flash.net

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f
Speedbyrd® :> <Speed...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:93192306...@news.remarQ.com...

>
> Str8Pride <caroli...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:378BFF73...@hotmail.com...

> >
> >
> > Perverted Jack Danger wrote:
> >
> > > Str8pride-
> > >
> > > The average gay man does not have sex at rest stops or public
restrooms.
> It
> > > has been well documented, that these men believe that they are
straight
> and
> > > many have wives with families. Most are married men having public sex
> with
> > > other married men. I think you should be warning women about their
> husbands
> > > and stop pointing the finger at openly gay men.
> > >
> > > -JD
> >
> > well, start providing the documentation.
> >
> >
>
>
> Who are you to demand anyone provide anything? I demand you come to
terms
> with your own sexual frustration.
>
>
Oh Dahlink!!!! HE is his own documentation... I mean, the idiot does more
cruising than WE ALL have!!!!!!!!!!!!

flash.net

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Str8Pride <caroli...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> The homosexuals must seem to think I am the homosexual Fred Phelps!!!!

Is that because you posed as him when you were cruising the sites which you
seem to mistakenly believe are gay activist groups?

flash.net

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Str8Pride <caroli...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:378BFFE5...@hotmail.com...

>
>
> stage door johnny wrote:
>
> > fuck you, you sick, phony, christian bastard!
> >
>
> 1) no thanks to fuck you, I dont have sex with perverted homosexuals
>
> 2) I am not sick, I feel very well.
>
> 3) You assume I am a Christian, I guess your HIV cocktail is playing with
> your brain again.
>
Ok......... here's an HONEST question for ya...
I don't assume a damned thing, but would like to know why you waste so much
of your energy spreading hate. Do you take Tagamet? If not, have you
considered Prozac?
You seem very unhappy. If, however, you would mind your own fucking
business, and go fuck your wife instead of watch guys fuck on the internet,
you might be much happier.

So, do you really hate us, or do you just like fighting?

Kathy Common

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maybe you are!

we can't tell, with that Klansman's hood over your head...

Str8Pride wrote in message <378BFEB2...@hotmail.com>...

Kathy Common

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you're the only pervert here, you bigoted knuckle-head!

Kathy Common

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being gay is no more like a drug addiction than being hetero, you retard!

being gay is as normal as having blue eyes -- it's just different than the
norm.

being a christian is more like drug addiction than being gay.

if your religion makes you uncortable with others who are different, maybe
it is YOU who should change... change religions, that is!


Str8Pride wrote in message <378C007B...@hotmail.com>...

>> > Mainly, rest stops and public bathrooms.. I have gotten a list of


places
>> > where the perverts have taken over to do public sex and masturbation

Kathy Common

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so is privately practiced hetero child abuse.


& there is a helluva a lot more of that going on!


Myk wrote in message <378BEF63...@mindspring.com>...

Kathy Common

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you sure spend a lot of time dwelling on gay stuff, for someone who's
supposedly NOT gay, don'tcha? (hmmmm.....)

ya sure you don't want to just go ahead & come on out of the closet now?

it's ok -- we understand... we're here to help...


(NOT!)

Str8Pride wrote in message <378C001F...@hotmail.com>...

Kathy Common

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hey, str8-boy -- roll over & play dead, like a good little doggie.

Str8Pride wrote in message <378BFF73...@hotmail.com>...

John De Salvio

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In article <378BEF63...@mindspring.com>, Myk
<myk...@mindspring.com> wrote:

> John De Salvio wrote:
>
>
> > A sick joke.
>
> Public bathroom sex is a reality in NYC. It is
> real. It is revolting.

This statement is totally irrelevant to my post.

I called Str8Pride a sick joke.

--
John

NOTE: "From" address is deliberately wrong.
My correct e-mail address is:

desalvio["AT" SYMBOL]monitor.net

Kathy Common

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ok -- here's a translation for the mentally retarded (that's YOU, str8
pride):

*fuck you!* means *shove it up your ass!* or *stick it where the sun don't
shine!*, or something to that effect... it is NOT an invitation to enjoy
intimate physical pleasure with me, as much as i'm sure you WISH that's what
it meant!

if you hate gays, as you obviously do (or any other group of your fellow
humans), then YOU are SICK, not the gays.

ok -- maybe you're not a christian. fine.

you're still a stupid asshole.

as for my personal medical history, it is not the topic of discussion, nor
is it any of your god-damned business.

stick to the subject, if you can... i know -- it's hard for the mentally
retarded to focus for such a long time (several minutes at a time!), but do
give it your best shot, ok?

now -- go outside & play, like a good little child.


Str8Pride wrote in message <378BFFE5...@hotmail.com>...

Kathy Common

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his WIFE? surely no woman in her right mind would marry such a cretin...
assuming he is a man... i think it's a little kid, myself...

...or at least someone with a very childish mind...


@flash.net <@flash.net> wrote in message ...


>
>Str8Pride <caroli...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:378BFFE5...@hotmail.com...
>>
>>

>> stage door johnny wrote:
>>
>> > fuck you, you sick, phony, christian bastard!
>> >
>>
>> 1) no thanks to fuck you, I dont have sex with perverted homosexuals
>>
>> 2) I am not sick, I feel very well.
>>
>> 3) You assume I am a Christian, I guess your HIV cocktail is playing with
>> your brain again.
>>

Ward Stewart

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On Wed, 14 Jul 1999 09:17:11 GMT, <@flash.net> wrote:

>
>Str8Pride <caroli...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>news:378BFEB2...@hotmail.com...


>> The homosexuals must seem to think I am the homosexual Fred Phelps!!!!
>

>Is that because you posed as him when you were cruising the sites which you
>seem to mistakenly believe are gay activist groups?
>

More likely it is because his arguments are so flamboyantly stupid as
to make one suppose that he is a shill, setting out to make the Gays
look good.

ward


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Not approving of homosexuality is like not approving
of Tuesday. Every seven days it comes along with or
without your approval.
ward
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Jack Danger <dan...@inreach.com> wrote in message
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> Str8pride-
>
> Does it matter who is having public sex?

No, you go right ahead.

Str8Pride

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about half of all convicted child moleters are men molesting boys... aka
male homosexuals.

But then again, the male homosexual does not consider man/boy love to be
child abuse.


P.S. - do you know of any bonafide Christian child molesting
organization?
there are several homosexual pedophile groups.

dk

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Str8Pride wrote:

> about half of all convicted child moleters are men molesting boys... aka
> male homosexuals.
>
> But then again, the male homosexual does not consider man/boy love to be
> child abuse.
>
> P.S. - do you know of any bonafide Christian child molesting
> organization?

Hmm... the Catholic church?

Robert Serrano

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Str8Pride wrote:
>
> about half of all convicted child moleters are men molesting boys... aka
> male homosexuals.

And you have statistics proving this? Sure you don't. 'Cause they
don't exist.

> But then again, the male homosexual does not consider man/boy love to be
> child abuse.

Speak for yourself, or gay porn site cruiser.



> P.S. - do you know of any bonafide Christian child molesting
> organization?

Why would it matter to you, since you've gone to great length's to deny
that you're writing from a religious perspective?

Now, go back to school little boy. And do not return until you figure
out how to maintain a coherent thought for a couple a sentences.

Rob

Graeme Dunnett

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Most paedophiles are straight married men you ignorant asshole. Should we
then say that married men should not go near kids? Very few gay guys rape
women. Should we outlaw heterosexuality as a result then?

Str8Pride <caroli...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:378E57CD...@hotmail.com...


> about half of all convicted child moleters are men molesting boys... aka
> male homosexuals.
>

> But then again, the male homosexual does not consider man/boy love to be
> child abuse.
>
>

> P.S. - do you know of any bonafide Christian child molesting
> organization?

Steven C. Britton

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Graeme Dunnett wrote in message ...

>Most paedophiles are straight married men you ignorant asshole. Should we
>then say that married men should not go near kids? Very few gay guys rape
>women. Should we outlaw heterosexuality as a result then?


You're not taking the size of the samples into account. There are far more
heterosexuals than homosexuals, so your raw number is correct -- more
heterosexuals than homosexuals are paedophiles. HOWEVER -- a higher
PERCENTAGE of homosexuals are also paedophiles.
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In article <378f4...@news.cadvision.com>,

"Steven C. Britton" <sbri...@cadvision.com> wrote:
> Graeme Dunnett wrote in message ...
>
> >Most paedophiles are straight married men you ignorant asshole.
Should we
> >then say that married men should not go near kids? Very few gay guys
rape
> >women. Should we outlaw heterosexuality as a result then?
>
> You're not taking the size of the samples into account. There are
far more
> heterosexuals than homosexuals, so your raw number is correct -- more
> heterosexuals than homosexuals are paedophiles. HOWEVER -- a higher
> PERCENTAGE of homosexuals are also paedophiles.


Yet, after all the times you've made this assertion, you have yet to
prove it with anything approaching peer reviewed studies... You are
welcomed to try again however..


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Steven C. Britton wrote:
>
> Graeme Dunnett wrote in message ...
>
> >Most paedophiles are straight married men you ignorant asshole. Should we
> >then say that married men should not go near kids? Very few gay guys rape
> >women. Should we outlaw heterosexuality as a result then?
>
> You're not taking the size of the samples into account. There are far more
> heterosexuals than homosexuals, so your raw number is correct -- more
> heterosexuals than homosexuals are paedophiles. HOWEVER -- a higher
> PERCENTAGE of homosexuals are also paedophiles.

So what?

Men are about 50% of the population, yet they commit about 90% of the
violent crimes. That's a much greater disproportion than your alleged
disproportion of gay pedophiles.

What do you conclude from that? That men should not be trusted? That men
should be banned from carrying weapons? That men are savages that should
be locked up?

Do you feel guilty, man?

Mr. H

Robert Serrano

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"Steven C. Britton" wrote:
>
> Graeme Dunnett wrote in message ...
>
> >Most paedophiles are straight married men you ignorant asshole. Should we
> >then say that married men should not go near kids? Very few gay guys rape
> >women. Should we outlaw heterosexuality as a result then?
>
> You're not taking the size of the samples into account. There are far more
> heterosexuals than homosexuals, so your raw number is correct -- more
> heterosexuals than homosexuals are paedophiles. HOWEVER -- a higher
> PERCENTAGE of homosexuals are also paedophiles.

Gee, a refutation based on assertion. Maybe some day you'll learn the
value of evidence.

Rob

Letao

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In article <378f4...@news.cadvision.com>, "Steven C. Britton"
<sbri...@cadvision.com> wrote:

> Graeme Dunnett wrote in message ...
>
> >Most paedophiles are straight married men you ignorant asshole. Should we
> >then say that married men should not go near kids? Very few gay guys rape
> >women. Should we outlaw heterosexuality as a result then?
>
>
> You're not taking the size of the samples into account. There are far more
> heterosexuals than homosexuals, so your raw number is correct -- more
> heterosexuals than homosexuals are paedophiles. HOWEVER -- a higher
> PERCENTAGE of homosexuals are also paedophiles.

Are you suggesting that my civil liberties and equal access to the secular
institution of marriage be denied because of something someone else has
done?

--
Safe journey,

Letao
djs...@yahoo.com

control2

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No, your access to marriage should be denied because
you're a queer.

control2

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What kind of treats did he make? Rice Krispy squares?

Robert Schroeder wrote:
>
> no. you aren't Fred.
>
> You are, however, the infamous RevWhite, bigot supreme. The same RevWhite
> who, according to a 1997 WIRED magazine article, made treats against a woman
> and a child..
>
> And you still need to grow up.
>
> kisses....
>
> Robert


>
> Str8Pride wrote in message <378BFEB2...@hotmail.com>...

Robert Serrano

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control2 wrote:
>
> No, your access to marriage should be denied because
> you're a queer.

And? I can still get married as long as I marry a woman. Guess what.
I'd still be a queer. I'd just be a married one.

Rob

control2

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Good point.

eric lee williams

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control2 <cont...@voicenet.com> wrote in message
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> No, your access to marriage should be denied because
> you're a queer.
>
Your access to newsgroups should be denied because
you're stupid.

L. Michael Roberts

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Str8Pride wrote:
>
> about half of all convicted child moleters are men molesting boys... aka
> male homosexuals.
>
> But then again, the male homosexual does not consider man/boy love to be
> child abuse.
>
> P.S. - do you know of any bonafide Christian child molesting
> organization?

Catholic boarding schools?

> there are several homosexual pedophile groups.

For those not convinced of the existence of heterosexual pedophile
groups:
- Pedophile liberation front
http://www.cyberpass.net/~plf/index.html

-Fresh Petals
http://www.duende.demon.co.uk/456.html

-Danish Pedophile Association
http://dpa.home.ml.org


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L. Michael Roberts

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"Steven C. Britton" wrote:
>
> Graeme Dunnett wrote in message ...
>
> >Most paedophiles are straight married men you ignorant asshole. Should we
> >then say that married men should not go near kids? Very few gay guys rape
> >women. Should we outlaw heterosexuality as a result then?
>
> You're not taking the size of the samples into account. There are far more
> heterosexuals than homosexuals, so your raw number is correct -- more
> heterosexuals than homosexuals are paedophiles. HOWEVER -- a higher
> PERCENTAGE of homosexuals are also paedophiles.

Cite please!

Rasmus Neikes

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control2 schrieb:

>
> No, your access to marriage should be denied because
> you're a queer.

Since sexuality is not now and has never been a qualifying element to
marriage I'd really like to know how you plan on doing that...

Rasmus.

>
> Letao wrote:
> >
> > In article <378f4...@news.cadvision.com>, "Steven C. Britton"

> > <sbri...@cadvision.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Graeme Dunnett wrote in message ...
> > >
> > > >Most paedophiles are straight married men you ignorant asshole. Should we
> > > >then say that married men should not go near kids? Very few gay guys rape
> > > >women. Should we outlaw heterosexuality as a result then?
> > >
> > >
> > > You're not taking the size of the samples into account. There are far more
> > > heterosexuals than homosexuals, so your raw number is correct -- more
> > > heterosexuals than homosexuals are paedophiles. HOWEVER -- a higher
> > > PERCENTAGE of homosexuals are also paedophiles.
> >

control2

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Another turd joins the cesspool. Welcome, turdboy.
The honey dipper will get you eventually.


eric lee williams wrote:
>
> control2 <cont...@voicenet.com> wrote in message
> news:378FCF7B...@voicenet.com...

> > No, your access to marriage should be denied because
> > you're a queer.
> >

> Your access to newsgroups should be denied because
> you're stupid.

control2

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It's a qualifying element if it involves the marriage to EACH OTHER,
since that's what we're talking about in the first place. And
since most states deny such a union it's already being done. I guess
you thought you got me on that one.

Rasmus Neikes wrote:
>
> control2 schrieb:


> >
> > No, your access to marriage should be denied because
> > you're a queer.
>

Duane

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Yes it is called the Christian Coalition you must be a member

Mitra

On Thu, 15 Jul 1999 17:51:09 -0400, Str8Pride
<caroli...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>about half of all convicted child moleters are men molesting boys... aka
>male homosexuals.
>
>But then again, the male homosexual does not consider man/boy love to be
>child abuse.
>
>
>P.S. - do you know of any bonafide Christian child molesting
>organization?

rainbows...@my-deja.com

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In article <378E57CD...@hotmail.com>,

Str8Pride <caroli...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> about half of all convicted child moleters are men molesting boys...
aka
> male homosexuals.
>
> But then again, the male homosexual does not consider man/boy love to
be
> child abuse.
>
> P.S. - do you know of any bonafide Christian child molesting
> organization?
> there are several homosexual pedophile groups.
>
>

Again, lack of proof is sadly evident here. not ALL homosexuals are
that way! I am gay and I am not that way! In fact, I found out about a
former lover doing that and I threw him out on his ear. So don't go
cornering the market on your righteous indignation on child
molestation! I am just as much against it as you are and the way you
just paint all homosexuals in that category by your venomous tongue and
your hatred makes me sick!

Albert

Letao

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In article <37900191...@voicenet.com>, control2
<cont...@voicenet.com> wrote:

> Good point.
>
>
>
> Robert Serrano wrote:
> >
> > control2 wrote:
> > >

> > > No, your access to marriage should be denied because
> > > you're a queer.

Maybe it is true that a monkey hitting the keyboard will eventually come
up with an actual sentence.

You're a real deep thinker, aren't you, Braniac?


> > And? I can still get married as long as I marry a woman. Guess what.
> > I'd still be a queer. I'd just be a married one.
> >
> > Rob

--
Safe journey,

Letao
djs...@yahoo.com

Rasmus Neikes

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L. Michael Roberts schrieb:

>
> "Steven C. Britton" wrote:
> >
> > Graeme Dunnett wrote in message ...
> >
> > >Most paedophiles are straight married men you ignorant asshole. Should we
> > >then say that married men should not go near kids? Very few gay guys rape
> > >women. Should we outlaw heterosexuality as a result then?
> >
> > You're not taking the size of the samples into account. There are far more
> > heterosexuals than homosexuals, so your raw number is correct -- more
> > heterosexuals than homosexuals are paedophiles. HOWEVER -- a higher
> > PERCENTAGE of homosexuals are also paedophiles.
>
> Cite please!

Oh, please, pretty please may I? Please...????

"Men are from Mars ..."

Ras "or did he ever cite anythiung else?" mus.


Rasmus Neikes

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control2 schrieb:

>
> It's a qualifying element if it involves the marriage to EACH OTHER,
> since that's what we're talking about in the first place.

Ah, but your wrong. I know dozens of married people and to my knowledge
they were never asked about their sexuality when they married. Care to
explain that?

And
> since most states deny such a union it's already being done. I guess
> you thought you got me on that one.

Oh, I _did_ get you. That you didn't realize this yet is of little
concern to me. Do try to understand that there is a difference between
sexuality and gender, kay?

Rasmus.

>
> Rasmus Neikes wrote:
> >
> > control2 schrieb:
> > >

> > > No, your access to marriage should be denied because
> > > you're a queer.
> >

> > Since sexuality is not now and has never been a qualifying element to
> > marriage I'd really like to know how you plan on doing that...
> >
> > Rasmus.
> >
> > >
> > > Letao wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In article <378f4...@news.cadvision.com>, "Steven C. Britton"

> > > > <sbri...@cadvision.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Graeme Dunnett wrote in message ...
> > > > >
> > > > > >Most paedophiles are straight married men you ignorant asshole. Should we
> > > > > >then say that married men should not go near kids? Very few gay guys rape
> > > > > >women. Should we outlaw heterosexuality as a result then?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You're not taking the size of the samples into account. There are far more
> > > > > heterosexuals than homosexuals, so your raw number is correct -- more
> > > > > heterosexuals than homosexuals are paedophiles. HOWEVER -- a higher
> > > > > PERCENTAGE of homosexuals are also paedophiles.
> > > >

> > > > Are you suggesting that my civil liberties and equal access to the secular
> > > > institution of marriage be denied because of something someone else has
> > > > done?
> > > >

Ward Stewart

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Thank you for so clearly demonstrating Eric's characterization of you.

Now, go away and troll elsewhere


ward


On Sat, 17 Jul 1999 07:15:21 -0400, control2 <cont...@voicenet.com>
wrote:

>Another turd joins the cesspool. Welcome, turdboy.
>The honey dipper will get you eventually.
>
>
>eric lee williams wrote:
>>
>> control2 <cont...@voicenet.com> wrote in message
>> news:378FCF7B...@voicenet.com...

>> > No, your access to marriage should be denied because
>> > you're a queer.
>> >

>> Your access to newsgroups should be denied because
>> you're stupid.

~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^
"Love, like a mountain-wind upon an oak,
Falling upon me, shakes me leaf and bough."
Sappho of Lesbos
~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^

Heidi Bonal Romero

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To be honest, the crap you come out with, it would surprise me !

Heidi Bonal Romero

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Ward Stewart

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On Sat, 17 Jul 1999 07:24:49 -0400, control2 <cont...@voicenet.com>
wrote:

>It's a qualifying element if it involves the marriage to EACH OTHER,

>since that's what we're talking about in the first place. And

>since most states deny such a union it's already being done. I guess
>you thought you got me on that one.
>

You really are dimmer than one might suppose -- since WHEN has the
government insisted on sexual performance of ANY sort during marriage.

It would appear that you would require G.I., -- Government mandated
-- sex and you rave about how WE are "changing marriage."

ward


>
>
>Rasmus Neikes wrote:
>>
>> control2 schrieb:
>> >

>> > No, your access to marriage should be denied because
>> > you're a queer.
>>

>> Since sexuality is not now and has never been a qualifying element to
>> marriage I'd really like to know how you plan on doing that...
>>
>> Rasmus.
>>

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madame x

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...& twisting around ancient texts in order to demonize gay people...


rainbows...@my-deja.com wrote in message
<7mq001$biv$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...

Phinny

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>> Str8Pride <caroli...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> about half of all convicted child moleters are men molesting boys...
>>aka
>>> male homosexuals.
>>>
>>> But then again, the male homosexual does not consider man/boy love to
>>be
>>> child abuse.
>>>
>>> P.S. - do you know of any bonafide Christian child molesting
>>> organization?

Uuuuh, the Catholic Church?


madame x

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no -- most so-called christian churches (including catholics & baptists!)...

Phinny wrote in message <3793347e...@netnews.att.net>...

madame x

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...kissing the asses of the evil ones in the christian coalition, family
research council, & other phony religious organizations, which are really
facists in disguise...

eric lee williams wrote in message ...
>
>Jack Danger <dan...@inreach.com> wrote in message
>news:7hVi3.1017$s5.8...@news.inreach.com...
>> Str8pride-
>>
>> Does it matter who is having public sex?
>
>No, you go right ahead.
>
>

madame x

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compared to lying baptists, gays DO look good!

Ward Stewart wrote in message <3790f460.8799690@news-server>...
>On Wed, 14 Jul 1999 09:17:11 GMT, <@flash.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>Str8Pride <caroli...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:378BFEB2...@hotmail.com...


>>> The homosexuals must seem to think I am the homosexual Fred Phelps!!!!
>>

>>Is that because you posed as him when you were cruising the sites which
you
>>seem to mistakenly believe are gay activist groups?
>>
>More likely it is because his arguments are so flamboyantly stupid as
>to make one suppose that he is a shill, setting out to make the Gays
>look good.
>
>ward
>
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
>Not approving of homosexuality is like not approving
>of Tuesday. Every seven days it comes along with or
>without your approval.
> ward
>-------------------------------------------------------

Myk

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Kathy Common wrote:
>
> so is privately practiced hetero child abuse.
>
> & there is a helluva a lot more of that going on!

Yep! But no one here claimed the notion was unreal
or instrinsically a "sick joke".

Myk

Myk

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Str8Pride wrote:
>
> about half of all convicted child moleters are men molesting boys... aka
> male homosexuals.

Dubious without citation of source. But even so,
the key word is "convicted". Most molestation
escapes the light of the law.

> But then again, the male homosexual does not consider man/boy love to be
> child abuse.

This male homosexual considers man/boy molestation
to be child abuse. What a creep you are to use the
word "love" in such a context.

> P.S. - do you know of any bonafide Christian child molesting
> organization?

There is no Gay child molesting organization.
Pedephilia is not homosexuality - it's something
else..

Myk

Ward Stewart

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On Tue, 20 Jul 1999 00:04:54 -0400, Myk <myk...@mindspring.com>
wrote:

Well, there Is the Roman Church.

ward

-------------------------------------------------
"All members of the SS and police must be in the
forefront of the fight to eliminate homosexuality
from the German people."
--Heinrich Himmler, 3/7/1942
-------------------------------------------------

madame x

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christianity in general (and baptists, in particular) molests the minds of
youth with their hate-filled, superstitous lies & nonsense...

Ward Stewart wrote in message <37b34f23.59810895@news-server>...

madame x

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no one here (or at the recent sbc convention in atlanta) acknowledges it
(hetero child abuse) at all... that's the problem!

they're all too busy pointing their bony, crooked fingers at gays (who have
done NOTHING WRONG!).


Myk wrote in message <3793F3DC...@mindspring.com>...

Ted Krueger

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In article <7mvgns$eg4$1...@usenet50.supernews.com>, madame x <lo...@me.com> wrote:

>...kissing the asses of the evil ones in the christian coalition, family
>research council, & other phony religious organizations, which are really
>facists in disguise...

Sure sounds like hate speech to me.

--
Ted the Cruel
Otis Booster
Sir Ted For No Particular Reason
Dr. Charlie's hero kru...@neta.com

Myk

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Ward Stewart wrote:
>
...klip


> >> P.S. - do you know of any bonafide Christian child molesting
> >> organization?
> >
> >There is no Gay child molesting organization.
> >Pedephilia is not homosexuality - it's something
> >else..
> >
> >Myk
>
> Well, there Is the Roman Church.

Yuk Yuk

Seriously tho. I am not a Catholic. But is it
really appropriate to poke prejudiced fun at them?
There are plenty of reasons to resent the Catholic
Church as an entity, particularly for gay
Catholics; I'm not about defending the
institution.

The bottom line tho. It is a prejudiced notion to
even joke that the Catholic Church is a Christian
institution that promotes child molesting. As Gay
people we have a measure of upset about the
prejudice and bigotry directed at ourselves -
right? We're not happy about it right?

-Oh forget it. It's probably just because I'm an
idiot. Only a fuckhead shit for brains would think
a person fighting prejudice and bigotry in others
should try to refrain from indulging prejudices
and bigotries his or herself. -Right?

Myk

John De Salvio

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In article <7n2i4a$epj$1...@trojan.neta.com>, kru...@trojan.neta.com (Ted
Krueger) wrote:

> In article <7mvgns$eg4$1...@usenet50.supernews.com>, madame x <lo...@me.com>
wrote:
>
> >...kissing the asses of the evil ones in the christian coalition, family
> >research council, & other phony religious organizations, which are really
> >facists in disguise...
>
> Sure sounds like hate speech to me.

Call it what you want, but 'madame x' sure does call it right!

--
John

NOTE: "From" address is deliberately wrong.
My correct e-mail address is:

desalvio["AT" SYMBOL]monitor.net

Ted Krueger

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In article <7n26fu$2j$1...@usenet48.supernews.com>, madame x <lo...@me.com> wrote:

>christianity in general (and baptists, in particular) molests the minds of
>youth with their hate-filled, superstitous lies & nonsense...

Hate speech!

control2

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Any chance a queer gets to bash religion he takes it. It's nothing
new.


Ward Stewart wrote:

> Calm Yourself -- here on the front lines in Hawaii where we have found
> the not inconsiderable forces of the Catholics joined with the Mormons
> and the primitive Baptists they have ALL earned plenty obloquy.
>
> Folks who are each convinced that the others are bound for hell-fire
> have found common cause in homophobia and hatemongering.
>
> They have done this by trying to work mischief on MY life and I may
> say any goddamn thing I please.
>
> ward
>
> *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
>
> Love worketh no ill to his neighbor: therefore love
> is the fulfilling of the law.
> Romans, 13:10
> *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

Robert Serrano

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Ted Krueger wrote:
>
> In article <7n26fu$2j$1...@usenet48.supernews.com>, madame x <lo...@me.com> wrote:
>
> >christianity in general (and baptists, in particular) molests the minds of
> >youth with their hate-filled, superstitous lies & nonsense...
>
> Hate speech!

Very good, "Christian" organizations (well, those fixated on my private
life, anyway) frequently utilize what is known as "hate speech" in order
to foster a general atmosphere of hostility towards gays and lesbians.
They then, frequently, hide behind their big black book to defend
themselves and accuse others of using "hate speech" against them. (Note
school marm emphasis.)

See, they are trainable.

Rob

Robert Serrano

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control2 wrote:
>
> Any chance a queer gets to bash religion he takes it. It's nothing
> new.

And any chance a coward has to slander others, they take it. It's
nothing new.

Rob

Ward Stewart

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Tigga

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Myk <myk...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:3794CB27...@mindspring.com...

I have to applaud you Myk..... I've always said "If you pull on a cat's
tail, its going to scratch you, if you kick a dog in the guts, it will bite
you."

John De Salvio

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In article <37951F27...@voicenet.com>, control2
<cont...@voicenet.com> wrote:

> Any chance a queer gets to bash religion he takes it. It's nothing
> new.

It's called "back at'cha."

You wouldn't understand.

Gregory Gadow

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control2 wrote:

> Any chance a queer gets to bash religion he takes it. It's nothing
> new.

I could say, "Any chance a Christian gets to bash Gay people he takes it.
It's nothing new." But that would be just as much a lie as what you are
saying.

I have nothing against Christianity, or any other faith: I was a deacon with
the Metropolitan Community Church for two years, and I've studied for the
priesthood in the Episcopal Church. My spiritual journey has included not
just Christianity but also Judaism and Wicca, and I retain a deep and
abiding respect for these three faiths.

No, what I bash are those so-called Christians who twist the Word of love
and salvation into a weapon they can use to destroy anything they don't
like. I bash those who scream, "God loves you, so die, faggot, die!" When
these so-called Christians clump together into an organization, I will bash
that organization.
--
Gregory Gadow
E-mail: tech...@serv.net
American Liberal Party: http://www.americanliberal.org

I am a resident of Washington State. Any commerical e-mail sent with
false or misleading headers is in violation of state law and subject
to a $500 penalty. I WILL FILE CHARGES!

control2

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I have never heard Christian organizations say "die faggot" or anything
like it. In addition, I have never heard or seen any Christians
advocate the death of queers or anything like it. In addition to that
Christians do not say being gay is wrong. They say that the acts
committed by gays are wrong. Take for example the website which of
course you regard as extreme: godhatesfags.com. They do not advocate
anyone's death and they do acknowledge that one basically might not
be able to control whether or not one is gay. However, what one can
control is one's actions. The followers of Phelps can quote dozens of
references in the bible which they strongly believe unequivocally condemns
"queer actions".

I'm not a bible thumper myself. But I'm going to give you an example which
illustrates that their beliefs are not based on hate but based on an
unyielding belief that the bible, hence God states that queer actions are
wrong. Think of the last presidential election. It is a fact that the
reason the impeached scumbag won was because millions of southern bible
thumpers stayed home. The reason they stayed home was because Dole would
not enthusiatically commit to the prolife movement. These people would
not compromise even though Dole was certainly more closed aligned with
their conservative beliefs then the scumbag was. They stayed home because
they believed (believe) that to vote for someone who was not prolife would
be contrary to God's laws and would result in their own respective
journeys to hell. Hence, their uncomprising beliefs really hurt the
conservative movement...but that's not a consideration to them. My point
is regardless of the outcome the beliefs of the hardcore bible thumpers
are what matters to them not hate.

Myk

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control2 wrote:
>
> Any chance a queer gets to bash religion he takes it. It's nothing
> new.

Excuse me. As the person who brought up the notion
that Catholic Bashing is not necessarilly a good
thing. Well, I'm quite queer. How dare you imply
that I may be anything less than 100% grade a
queer?

Myk

John De Salvio

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In article <37966C5E...@voicenet.com>, control2
<cont...@voicenet.com> wrote:

> I have never heard Christian organizations say "die faggot" or anything
> like it.

No, their language is considerably more sophisticated.

In addition, I have never heard or seen any Christians
> advocate the death of queers or anything like it.

Don't get around much, do you?

In addition to that
> Christians do not say being gay is wrong. They say that the acts
> committed by gays are wrong. Take for example the website which of
> course you regard as extreme: godhatesfags.com. They do not advocate
> anyone's death

Just what the hell do you think "God Says Kill Fags" means?

THAT is a Phelps sign.

Myk

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Catholics, especially homophobic Catholics, really
love feeling martyred. The more Gay people can be
reduced to a cartoon of a religion bashing sinning
sex fiend - the more comfortable it is for
Catholic homophobes to "retaliate" and work to
legislate against our dignity. Catholics are
justified in their bigotry all the more because of
your comments.

If Catholic bashing was entirely absent from all
Gay politics - think how the Catholic institution
would be DISempowered when it comes to attacking
us. There is no martyrdom or self righteousness in
attacking that which does not attack you.

I'm not about making you or anyone else right or
wrong. You feel hurt by the Catholics and use that
to justify your bigotry against them. That's
perfectly fair. But the same justification is as
valid for the Catholic hurt by your own comments.
What's real for you is real for them too.

-Just food for thought.

Myk

Ward Stewart wrote:
..klip

flash.net

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Jul 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/22/99
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...somewhere in a little corner of the world, the very happy couple sits,
rotfloao reading the following bullshit...

madame x <lo...@me.com> wrote in message
news:7mvgns$eg4$1...@usenet50.supernews.com...


> ...kissing the asses of the evil ones in the christian coalition, family
> research council, & other phony religious organizations, which are really
> facists in disguise...

ROTFLMAO heeheehaa... cute!

> eric lee williams wrote in message ...
> >
> >Jack Danger <dan...@inreach.com> wrote in message
> >news:7hVi3.1017$s5.8...@news.inreach.com...
> >> Str8pride-
> >>
> >> Does it matter who is having public sex?
> >
> >No, you go right ahead.

What are these guys talking about this in the lesbian echo for.... or are
they to stupid to know the difference?????????

Kiwi

L. Michael Roberts

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Jul 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/22/99
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control2 wrote:
>
> I have never heard Christian organizations say "die faggot" or anything
> like it.

Apparently you have missed reading http://www.godhatesfags.com It
takes a strong stomach to visit but do educate yourself.


> In addition, I have never heard or seen any Christians
> advocate the death of queers or anything like it.

Apparently you have never watched the 700 Club and Pat Robertson.


> In addition to that
> Christians do not say being gay is wrong.

See above.....


> They say that the acts
> committed by gays are wrong. Take for example the website which of
> course you regard as extreme: godhatesfags.com. They do not advocate

> anyone's death and they do acknowledge that one basically might not
> be able to control whether or not one is gay. However, what one can
> control is one's actions. The followers of Phelps can quote dozens of
> references in the bible which they strongly believe unequivocally condemns
> "queer actions".

And others can quote dozens of eminent scholars and theologians...
with university degrees and decades of experience who just don't see
it Phred's way.

<snip 2 end>

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Robert Serrano

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"L. Michael Roberts" wrote:
>
> control2 wrote:
> >
> > I have never heard Christian organizations say "die faggot" or anything
> > like it.
>
> Apparently you have missed reading http://www.godhatesfags.com It
> takes a strong stomach to visit but do educate yourself.

Ah, but, you see, that's the secret, these critters can disavow these
people as not being "real" Christians, while using them to justify their
beliefs.



> > In addition, I have never heard or seen any Christians
> > advocate the death of queers or anything like it.
>
> Apparently you have never watched the 700 Club and Pat Robertson.

Ah, but Pat Robertson doesn't actually say that he advocates the killing
of gays. At the same time, whenever their's been a disaster in San
Francisco, he says that it happens because gays are tolerated there.
That way, he can do a big "Who, me?" whenever something bad happens to
one of us.

Rob

Ward Stewart

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Jul 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/22/99
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On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 20:57:02 -0400, control2 <cont...@voicenet.com>
wrote:

>I have never heard Christian organizations say "die faggot" or anything

>like it. In addition, I have never heard or seen any Christians
>advocate the death of queers or anything like it. In addition to that
>Christians do not say being gay is wrong. They say that the acts


>committed by gays are wrong. Take for example the website which of
>course you regard as extreme: godhatesfags.com. They do not advocate
>anyone's death and they do acknowledge that one basically might not
>be able to control whether or not one is gay. However, what one can
>control is one's actions. The followers of Phelps can quote dozens of
>references in the bible which they strongly believe unequivocally condemns
>"queer actions".

AND, this hateful obsession leads DIRECTLY to the deaths of many
homosexuals -- watch the "murder of the week" thread.

Then of course we have the other group which advocatesfor the murder
of Doctors performong legal procedures on women who want them.

ward


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American workforce, who currently have no protection
from the arbitrary abuse of their rights on the job.

For too long, our nation has tolerated the insidious
form of discrimination against this group of Americans
who have worked as hard as any group, paid their
taxes like everyone else, and yet have been denied
equal protection under the law."
Mrs. Coretta Scott King
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Eric Bohlman

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[quoting John's quote because the original scrolled off my server]

John De Salvio (des...@monitor.net) wrote:
: In article <37966C5E...@voicenet.com>, control2
: <cont...@voicenet.com> wrote:

: In addition to that


: > Christians do not say being gay is wrong. They say that the acts
: > committed by gays are wrong. Take for example the website which of

Ah, but the acts committed by gays are the *same* acts committed by
straights! The objection therefore *can't* be to anything intrinsic about
the acts, but rather to the people doing them. The underlying ideology is
"it's OK for *us* to do this, but not for *you* to do it." Just like Rosa
Parks. Nobody believed that riding in the front of the bus was
intrinsically wrong, just that it was wrong for someone like *her* to do
it.


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