Troll Striptease 8
pers...@canthatspam.csulb.edu
Well, folks, despite the attempted massive pre-emptive strike, I'm
back again with another installment of Troll Striptease! Remember,
accept no inferior substitutes -- this is the real thing!
Main posting alias: The 2-Belo
Also known as: Ponty the Singing Pontiac, Wearer of the Greasy
Sombrero
Nick on IRC: 2
Real name: Jeff A. Boyd
ICQ number: 10742600
ICQ number 2: 10******
Valid email accounts:
1.) the2...@alt.net
3.) techno-*@po.sp****.ne.jp (business)
1.) URL: http://afk-mn.eist.co.jp/
2.)URL: http://www.**iwakamaru.or.jp/~tisland/english/index.html
(business)
3.)Revealing entry on alt.life-sucks Website:
http://www.**************.***/netizens/
Joined Altopia: October 30, 1997
Country of residence: Japan
Region of Japan: Gifu (central Japan) -- "Butt Fuck, Japan" (his
words)
Home city: Kaka******** Zip code: ***
Reason for emigrating: "Because it's cool and I was
tired of all the bullshit."
Hobby: skateboarding
Place of Employment:
Techno M**** Co., Ltd.
3-35 Hirakata, Gifu 501-62
Hashima-shi, Gifu 501-62 JAPAN
Phone: 81-58-398-10** Mr. Hattori/Mr. Okuda, Directors
Fax: 81-58-398-25**
Yes, he claims these are his *former* employers. But he's still
their Webmaster.:-)
Age: 27
Date of marriage: December 23, 1996 (though she's probably left
him by now...from the amount of time he spends trolling, he
can't have enough time for anything else)
And that's all for tonight, folks. I'll be back again with another
edition of Troll Striptease when the time is right.
Lyka
Mad Molly Malone, WereOrc
pers...@canthatspam.csulb.edu wrote:
> NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 18:52:24 PDT
>
> Well, folks, despite the attempted massive pre-emptive strike, I'm
> back again with another installment of Troll Striptease! Remember,
> accept no inferior substitutes -- this is the real thing!
>
must object to your continuing denigration of the race of trolls
as some kind of Usenet vermin. Trolls are a ancient and sere race
who have gotten some rather bad press in myth and folklore, and
so have orcs, their brethern.
It's time that we were shown the respect and courtesy other weres
were shown. Just because Professor Tolkien and the Brothers Grimm
had a rather prejudicial attitude towards us does not mean that
we are bad beings or that the popular attitudes towards us have
to continue.
Please consider using something less perjorative such as Usenet
Pest, Meower, or Pissant.
--
Civil rights for Trolls and Orcs now -- Mad Molly Malone
President - Knights of Sauron
Ol' Everhunger
=> As a wereorc who is happily married to a weretroll, Sir Haggis, I
=> must object to your continuing denigration of the race of trolls
=> as some kind of Usenet vermin. Trolls are a ancient and sere race
=> who have gotten some rather bad press in myth and folklore, and
=> so have orcs, their brethern.
LOL... Our apologies, perhaps I can shed a little light on the phrase.
The name Troll used to describe a usenet pissant (I like that one!) does
not derive from the reference to the trollish people (of whom as wendigo I
am distantly related IMHO) but rather from a term for the act/sport of
fishing: one 'trolls' his line in search of something to catch.
Similarly, usenet pests 'troll' a group by sending in a few annoying
messages, looking to catch someone's reaction. Then they can 'reel in' a
'whopping' big flamewar. ;1
Referring to such a troll, while drawing some visual mirrors, does not
actually reflect on the trollish race as such. =) But I can see how it
could come to be a rather slanderous issue to have to live with. I can't
speak for all, but I will begin to use more appropriate terminology
hereafter; 'pissant' is good, as is 'annoying little shithead' (pardon my
French.) ;1
Good day to you, Orc friend.
--
Spyder -- <spy...@xmission.com> <http://www.xmission.com/~spyder>
I'm a headless beast -- I'm a subtle plague / I'm a cheating liar
I am naked terror / I hurt -- I wound -- I'm a fatal error
- KMFDM, "Beast"
Sebak
>actually reflect on the trollish race as such. =) But I can see how it
>could come to be a rather slanderous issue to have to live with. I can't
>speak for all, but I will begin to use more appropriate terminology
>hereafter; 'pissant' is good, as is 'annoying little shithead' (pardon my
>French.) ;1
Hear, hear! i agree wholeheartedly, although i can think of some other names
which make those look flattering. "cypher" comes to mind (now there's
something to call someone if you want to insult them!) :)
-Mokele-mbembe
"Shakespeare said, "There are more things in heaven and
earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
I am one of those things."
Mad Molly Malone, Were Orc
fcl...@kzvffvba.pbz (Ol' Everhunger) wrote:
> In article <787mkq$9...@news.net-link.net>, madmoll...@dejanews.com wrote:
>
> => As a wereorc who is happily married to a weretroll, Sir Haggis, I
> => must object to your continuing denigration of the race of trolls
> => as some kind of Usenet vermin. Trolls are a ancient and sere race
> => who have gotten some rather bad press in myth and folklore, and
> => so have orcs, their brethern.
>
> LOL... Our apologies, perhaps I can shed a little light on the phrase.
>
> The name Troll used to describe a usenet pissant (I like that one!) does
> not derive from the reference to the trollish people (of whom as wendigo I
> am distantly related IMHO) but rather from a term for the act/sport of
> fishing: one 'trolls' his line in search of something to catch.
And I suppose this happens under a bridge too? It's an inappropriate
stereotype of trollkind as those who hang around forever in one place
hoping to catch something with as string instead of being the fast,
wily predators they actually are.
>
> Similarly, usenet pests 'troll' a group by sending in a few annoying
> messages, looking to catch someone's reaction. Then they can 'reel in' a
> 'whopping' big flamewar. ;1
>
> Referring to such a troll, while drawing some visual mirrors, does not
> actually reflect on the trollish race as such. =) But I can see how it
> could come to be a rather slanderous issue to have to live with. I can't
> speak for all, but I will begin to use more appropriate terminology
> hereafter; 'pissant' is good, as is 'annoying little shithead' (pardon my
> French.) ;1
>
> Good day to you, Orc friend.
>
Thank you for your understanding. With more people like you the
tragedies of history, such as the genocide of the orcs in the Great
War of the Ring need not have happened.
--
Civil Rights for Were Orcs and Were Trolls Now!! - TOLKIEN LIED !!
Mad Molly Malone - Society for the Advancement of Were Orcs and Were Trolls
Adam Barnard
>
> Thank you for your understanding. With more people like you the
> tragedies of history, such as the genocide of the orcs in the Great
> War of the Ring need not have happened.
I believe we in AFT have had this discussion before, but there was no proof of a
genocide of orcs. Sure a lot of them died in battles, but so did a lot of humans.
Anyways, there is no documentation of what happen to those evil nassssty orcses and
trollses, no, my Preciousssss....
Wanderer
Howl-o, everyone in alt.fan.tolkien. We of alt.horror.werewolves apologize
for the crossposting -- it's being sent through a few servers that don't
enforce their AUP -- but relish the opportunity to chat with you folk.
Since a.h.ww covers not just were-*wolves*, but all kinds of werefolk, we'd
appreciate your opinions on Bjorn, the werebear who appears in, "The Hobbit,
or, There and Back Again".
On a more speculative subject, do you figure there would be werewolves in
the world of, "The Hobbit", and the following, "Fellowship of the Ring",
series? If so, whose side would they be on? Dark, with the worgs? Or
Light (or at least Grey) with the Ents and Tom Bombadil?
Ah, well, I suppose I'd best end this post now. In the name of the One True
King, I bid you peace.:)
Yours truly,
The wolfish,
(But not worgish.;)
Wanderer**wand...@applink.net
Where am I going?I don't quite know.
What does it matter where people go?
Down to the woods where the bluebells grow.
Anywhere! Anywhere! *I*don't know!
Mike Kew
>Howl-o, everyone in alt.fan.tolkien. We of alt.horror.werewolves apologize
>for the crossposting -- it's being sent through a few servers that don't
>enforce their AUP -- but relish the opportunity to chat with you folk.
Fairy nuff. Nice to meet you too.
>Since a.h.ww covers not just were-*wolves*, but all kinds of werefolk, we'd
>appreciate your opinions on Bjorn, the werebear who appears in, "The Hobbit,
>or, There and Back Again".
Beorn. "Some say that he is a bear descended from the great and
ancient bears of the mountains that lived there before the giants
came. Others say that he is a man descended from the first men who
lived before Smaug or the other dragons came into this part of the
world, and before the goblins came into the hills out of the
North...
"At any rate he is under no enchantment but his own. He lives
in an oak-wood and has a great wooden house; and as a man he keeps
cattle and horses which are nearly as marvellous as himself. They
work for him and talk to him. He does not eat them; neither does
he hunt or eat wild animals. He keeps hives and hives of great
fierce bees, and lives mostly on cream and honey. As a bear he
ranges far and wide. I once saw him sitting all alone on top of
the Carrock at night watching the moon sinking towards the Misty
Mountains, and I heard him growl in the tongue of the bears: 'The
day will come when they will perish and I shall go back!' That is
why I believe he once came from the mountains himself."
And that's pretty much what we know about him, 'cept that, in bear
form, he's a ferocious warrior who butchers goblins and wargs by the
score. And in human form, though terribly Wise, he doesn't seem
overly quick on the uptake. And he's definitely one of the Good
Guys.
>On a more speculative subject, do you figure there would be werewolves in
>the world of, "The Hobbit", and the following, "Fellowship of the Ring",
>series? If so, whose side would they be on? Dark, with the worgs? Or
>Light (or at least Grey) with the Ents and Tom Bombadil?
They are mentioned, certainly in the Silmarillion, as servants of
Evil. Wolves are generally treated as evil by default in Tolkien.
>Ah, well, I suppose I'd best end this post now. In the name of the One True
>King, I bid you peace.:)
Ciao.
--
Mike Kew
"Hadn't you better explain it all a bit clearer?"
Wanderer
>On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Wanderer <wand...@applink.net> wrote
>>Howl-o, everyone in alt.fan.tolkien. We of alt.horror.werewolves
apologize
>>for the crossposting -- it's being sent through a few servers that don't
>>enforce their AUP -- but relish the opportunity to chat with you folk.
>
>Fairy nuff. Nice to meet you too.
<smile> So, how's everything in a.f.t.?:)
>
>>Since a.h.ww covers not just were-*wolves*, but all kinds of werefolk,
we'd
>>appreciate your opinions on Bjorn, the werebear who appears in, "The
Hobbit,
>>or, There and Back Again".
>
>Beorn.
Oh, phooey.:/ Sorry for the goof. Unfortunately, my copy of "There and
Back Again" succumbed to terminal mildew years ago ... and paperback just
isn't the same, you know?
> "Some say that he is a bear descended from the great and
> ancient bears of the mountains that lived there before the giants
> came. Others say that he is a man descended from the first men who
> lived before Smaug or the other dragons came into this part of the
> world, and before the goblins came into the hills out of the
> North...
> "At any rate he is under no enchantment but his own. He lives
> in an oak-wood and has a great wooden house; and as a man he keeps
> cattle and horses which are nearly as marvellous as himself. They
> work for him and talk to him. He does not eat them; neither does
> he hunt or eat wild animals. He keeps hives and hives of great
> fierce bees, and lives mostly on cream and honey. As a bear he
> ranges far and wide. I once saw him sitting all alone on top of
> the Carrock at night watching the moon sinking towards the Misty
> Mountains, and I heard him growl in the tongue of the bears: 'The
> day will come when they will perish and I shall go back!' That is
> why I believe he once came from the mountains himself."
You have to love Tolkien's way with words, don't you?:) Thanks muchly for
the recap ... a good Tolkien quotation is wonderful.:)
>
>And that's pretty much what we know about him, 'cept that, in bear
>form, he's a ferocious warrior who butchers goblins and wargs by the
>score. And in human form, though terribly Wise, he doesn't seem
>overly quick on the uptake. And he's definitely one of the Good
>Guys.
<nodnod> Agreed there. And aren't you glad he's on *our* side?;>
But, really, I was seeking more for opinions than quotations (though I
approve of what you've given us above). You know ... what sparks does your
imagination give off when you fire it with Beorn's image?:)
>
>>On a more speculative subject, do you figure there would be werewolves in
>>the world of, "The Hobbit", and the following, "Fellowship of the Ring",
>>series? If so, whose side would they be on? Dark, with the worgs? Or
>>Light (or at least Grey) with the Ents and Tom Bombadil?
>
>They are mentioned, certainly in the Silmarillion, as servants of
>Evil. Wolves are generally treated as evil by default in Tolkien.
<smile> <shrug> Yeah, the bad publicity did it again.;) I wish, sometimes,
that more fantasy writers used wolves as good folk, you know? True, the
fables, folktales, etc., are an awful lot of PR to fight against ... but, to
quote one cartoon wolf of my viewing, "I'm also kind, sensitive, caring ...
and a fool for a hot cup of cocoa on a cold winter's night".:) Still, there
have been a few who used wolves in that light ... just not very many (I
mean, even C.S. Lewis had evil werewolves in Narnia).
>
>>Ah, well, I suppose I'd best end this post now. In the name of the One
True
>>King, I bid you peace.:)
>
>Ciao.
>
Until we speak again.:)
Yours truly,
The wolfishly-natured,
Mike Kew
>But, really, I was seeking more for opinions than quotations (though I
>approve of what you've given us above). You know ... what sparks does your
>imagination give off when you fire it with Beorn's image?:)
Oh, *opinions*. That's another matter. Glad you asked.
Unfortunately it can be dangerous to venture an opinion on this
group... some people seem to think that everything should be
*provable*, or otherwise it's worthless.
With your indulgence, I'll restart this in a new thread
(crossposted to our two groups where it's on-topic) - I suspect a
lot of people have already marked this one to 'ignore'. C'ya
there.
--
Mike Kew
"What do you think I am? A porter?"