Stupid question...
SMASH GREYWOLF
: Just out of curiosity... any wereplants? ;-)
There are 3 wereplants that I know of, but they don't directly post.
Ask Ysengrin. I met them up on the second floor of Verdun Manor
Last weekend. Perhaps he can scan a piccy, and post it...
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James Harrion III
: Hi everyone, I've been a lurker on this newsgroup, and I was just
: wondering: Since there have been "werefoxes" and "werebears" and
: "werejaguars" on this group, is there a list of all the different varieties
: (sp?) of werecreatures?
So far I've seen:
Werewolves, werebears, werefoxes, werejaguars, werepanthers, a weretiger,
a werecoyote, a wererat, a werecollie, two wereravens, a weredragon, a
werebat, a were felid-wolf hybrid, a werelion, and a werecat.
Whew!
Or would there be as many creatures in that list
: as there are ("normal") animals?
: That is to say, if <foobar> is any animal, could there always be such a
: thing as a were-<foobar>? (A creature which appears as a human most of the
: time, but at times [under certain conditions, or by will] changes into
: either <foobar> or a half human, half <foobar> creature?) Or is <foobar>
: only limited to the werecreatures mentioned in this newsgroup?
I seriously doubt it. I think the important issue is whether <foobar> has
some kind of spiritual significance or not: if <foobar> does then there is
the possibility of a were-<foobar>.
: Just out of curiosity... any wereplants? ;-)
Of course there are wereplants!
Observe someone who's been sitting in front of the TV for a couple of
hours and tell me you don't see vegetable matter! *g*
Seriously though, all of the weres here so far appear to be animals in
their other forms. At the spiritual level it all hinges on whether you
believe plants have spirits or not. I tend to believe they do, but I don't
think wereplants are possible in the physical sense because plants are
utterly different lifeforms than people: at least with animals even though
the behaviors, forms, movements may be somewhat alien there is some
commonality between them. Plants on the other hand are utterly different:
even within the same species of plant chromosome numbers are variable,
they have extra organelles such as chloroplasts, they lack a nervous system
and do all their communication by chemical signals, and so on.
Could people have a spiritual bond with plants though? Possibly.
: Finally, what werecreatures could be out there which represent "mythological"
: creatures?
Windigowak are from Native American mythology (see the Windigo FAQ), in
addition to dragons from pre-Christian European and Chinese mythology.
We've seen a "weredragon" here... Any werecentaurs, or
: wereunicorns, weregriffins? Is there such a thing as a were-elf? (Or are
: elves too similar to humans that nobody would care?
Assuming that elves exist, if for whatever reason they could form a
spiritual bond with some other species then I'd say yes. Could a person
turn into an elf or vice versa I have no idea: I am not an elf expert.
Any elves around the fire want to field this question? I'm interested in
knowing your opinion as well.
;-) ) Or maybe there
: are werecreatures whose "normal" forms are not human... But then they
: wouldn't be called "were" whatever since "were" (I believe) comes from some
: Anglo-Saxon root meaning "man" ... Perhaps there are elfwolves out
: there...
Welves? :)
: Sorry about this outbreak of verbal diarrhea, I just *had* to post a
: message with a bunch of rambling questions... :-)
No, you should see some of my early posts. Well, maybe not... ;)
: Emil Gilliam
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James Harrion III
: Emil Gilliam (em...@okcforum.osrhe.edu) wrote:
: : Just out of curiosity... any wereplants? ;-)
: There are 3 wereplants that I know of, but they don't directly post.
: Ask Ysengrin. I met them up on the second floor of Verdun Manor
: Last weekend. Perhaps he can scan a piccy, and post it...
So what's a wereplant like?
D. J. Sylvis
Clean water, sunlight, a little peat moss now and then . . . B-}.
WolfBard
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Jan Hilborn
: Hi everyone, I've been a lurker on this newsgroup, and I was just
: wondering: Since there have been "werefoxes" and "werebears" and
: "werejaguars" on this group, is there a list of all the different varieties
: as there are ("normal") animals?
Emil,
that's not a stupid question at all. Historically most cultures have
the concept of were creatures and those creatures are generally ones that
are perceived as being powerful by that culture.
South American cultures had werejaguars, northern european ones had
wolves, south Pacific ones had were sharks. You get the idea. Even though
creatures such as tortoises were percieved as powerful creatures I have
never read anywhere of a wereturtle (altho my research is far from
exhaustive).
The Theianthropy we generally seem to be dealing with here at ahww is
not culture specific altho fo some of us we may have drawn from our
cultural roots to find our spirits.
I did not choose my spirit, it is just part of me. If I lived in the
south pacific I would have to cast around to find the animal within my
sphere of knowledge that best matched my spirit as I understood it. Maybe
I would have chosen the shark because nothing else seemed as nearly
right. But I live in a larger world and could consider many types of
creatures when I tried to figure myself out. I finally came up with a
collie dog type canine.
Those who claim mythical spirit creatures would have to define their
mythos. The chinese dragon and the european dragon are vastly different
creatures. They are using the term dragon to describe their spirit but
the term alone may be describing the same thing to all people (wolf is
also culturally defined but scientifically we can cut through the
cultural layers to find *real* wolves.)
Since we are, on some level, whether we like it or admit it, all human
I think that half the were equation must always be human. Maybe the other
half can be further divided. A Human/Wolf-elf combo or something. I'm
open to the possibility altho I suspect that the wolf-elf "half" could be
better described by further searching to find a better spirit descriptor.
my thoughts anyway -
Vladwolf
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>From: sm...@cse.utoledo.edu (SMASH GREYWOLF)
>Subject: Re: Stupid question...
>Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 07:50:37 GMT
>Emil Gilliam (em...@okcforum.osrhe.edu) wrote:
>
>: Just out of curiosity... any wereplants? ;-)
>
>There are 3 wereplants that I know of, but they don't directly post.
>Ask Ysengrin. I met them up on the second floor of Verdun Manor
>Last weekend. Perhaps he can scan a piccy, and post it...
>
>
plants, etc etc... There is life in all. You have only to ask it questions
and look and listen.
Try reading a book called "Seven Arrows"
I dont have the authors name on hand at the moment.
Wes Jones
: Werewolves, werebears, werefoxes, werejaguars, werepanthers, a weretiger,
: a werecoyote, a wererat, a werecollie, two wereravens, a weredragon, a
: werebat, a were felid-wolf hybrid, a werelion, and a werecat.
: Whew!
I don't believe I've met the wererat. Where are you hiding?
: I seriously doubt it. I think the important issue is whether <foobar> has
: some kind of spiritual significance or not: if <foobar> does then there is
: the possibility of a were-<foobar>.
foobar?
: Of course there are wereplants!
Absolutely!...although I have yet to meet one.
- Fenris: The Howler in Darkness
Justin Wind
:: So far I've seen:
:: Werewolves, werebears, werefoxes, werejaguars, werepanthers, a weretiger,
:: a werecoyote, a wererat, a werecollie, two wereravens, a weredragon, a
:: werebat, a were felid-wolf hybrid, a werelion, and a werecat.
:: Whew!
: I don't believe I've met the wererat. Where are you hiding?
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Hiyo. This one's just lurking inna shadows, unable to keep up wif the
traffic here, occasionally grepping for interesting phrases. ;>
Bai fur now!
BTW, I still wanna meet all you whoopie folx.. Havena had time
yet, alas. :/ Next term fur sure. Heh. :>
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SMASH GREYWOLF
: Ah, well, good to see you anyway. So, YOU'RE the other
: WPIwere....
What does this make, SEVEN or EIGHT weres at wpi.edu? Sheesh!
Who was keeping track? Was it you, Dreamwolf?
Ray Stricklin
s> > thing as a were-<foobar>? (A creature which appears as a human most of the
s> > time, but at times [under certain conditions, or by will] changes into
s> > either <foobar> or a half human, half <foobar> creature?) Or is <foobar>
s> > only limited to the werecreatures mentioned in this newsgroup?
were-echidna? were-perch? yikes..
s> Concievably, yes their could be any form of werebeast out there. It all
s> depends on what is within your soul. However, I tend to wonder who would
s> want to be a wereslug, or a wereroach. It goes as far as your mind will
s> take you.
really.. Perhaps farther.. (bleh)
s> > Just out of curiosity... any wereplants? ;-)
like a were-kohlrabi? Or a were-dwarf-palm? None that I'm aware of. ::))
getting used to my new bifocal prescription glasses..
-rS
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D. J. Sylvis
In a previous article, seas...@cuppa.curtin.edu.au () says:
>
>what about Ents (assuming they 'exist')? Would they be classified as were-
>plants?
>
I don't think so . . . from what I remember (it's been far too long since I
sat down with some Tolkein) Ents are just living trees, with no real
connection to humanity at all. They seem to be in a class of their own . .
. unlike dryads and nyads, they aren't the souls of natural "ent"ities
(excuse the pun; it was intentional); instead, they are natural entities
with souls. (Or 'spirits' if you will -- I won't haggle over terms.)
WolfBard
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Crystal or Moria
wrote:
>
> what about Ents (assuming they 'exist')? Would they be classified as were-
> plants?
>
>And what of Vermicious Knids?
Actually, I've always assumed Were-ness to be limited to at least
opportunistically carniviorous mammals. I'm debating the mammals part, but
I just don't see a herbavore as anything but- delicious.
Moria Windwolf
Thinking that it's time to stick her nose into this thread.
Crystal Freitas
wrote:
> There's another good reason for my net name... too many Tolkien fans
> referring to me as "Treant" Drake. All the personality, tree times the
> fibre.
<grooooaaaannnnnnnnn> Hiker... words fail me.
Crystal
Paul Gettle
Well, that's not the problem, Crystal. The problem is that words _don't_
fail Hiker. :)
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D. J. Sylvis
That's Hiker . . . always willing to go out on a "limb" for a bad pun! Why
won't he "leaf" us alone?
POKEY
>> There's another good reason for my net name... too many Tolkien fans
>> referring to me as "Treant" Drake. All the personality, tree times the
>> fibre.
>
>won't he "leaf" us alone?
>
barking up the wrong tree?
<groan> i can't believe i just wrote that... :)
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KatmanDu
aco...@uoft02.utoledo.edu (POKEY) writes:
>In article <3kb1dt$8...@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, WolfBard howls:
>>> There's another good reason for my net name... too many Tolkien fans
>>> referring to me as "Treant" Drake. All the personality, tree times the
>>> fibre.
>>
>>That's Hiker . . . always willing to go out on a "limb" for a bad pun! Why
>>won't he "leaf" us alone?
>>
>wood you guys give us a break with the puns already? ... can't you see you're
>barking up the wrong tree?
James Harrion III
Distribution:
KatmanDu (KATM...@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU) wrote:
: In article <D5oJD...@utnetw.utoledo.edu>
: aco...@uoft02.utoledo.edu (POKEY) writes:
:
: >In article <3kb1dt$8...@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, WolfBard howls:
: >>> There's another good reason for my net name... too many Tolkien fans
: >>> referring to me as "Treant" Drake. All the personality, tree times the
: >>> fibre.
: >>
: >>That's Hiker . . . always willing to go out on a "limb" for a bad pun! Why
: >>won't he "leaf" us alone?
: >>
: >wood you guys give us a break with the puns already? ... can't you see you're
: >barking up the wrong tree?
:
: Awright, that's it... we've got to get to the root of all this.
Agreed. Who'se been planting all of these puns around here?
:
KatmanDu
ez04...@bullwinkle.ucdavis.edu (James Harrion III) writes:
>: >>> There's another good reason for my net name... too many Tolkien fans
>: >>> referring to me as "Treant" Drake. All the personality, tree times the
>: >>> fibre.
>: >wood you guys give us a break with the puns already? ... can't you see you're
>: >barking up the wrong tree?
>: Awright, that's it... we've got to get to the root of all this.
>Agreed. Who'se been planting all of these puns around here?
Sowing the seeds of discontent, they are...
James Harrion III
: In article <3kl76f$c...@mark.ucdavis.edu>
I really wish someone wood figure out where they're coming from...
POKEY
>: >>> referring to me as "Treant" Drake. All the personality, tree times the
>: >>> fibre.
>: >>
>: >>That's Hiker . . . always willing to go out on a "limb" for a bad pun! Why
>: >>won't he "leaf" us alone?
>: >>
>: >wood you guys give us a break with the puns already? ... can't you see you're
>: >barking up the wrong tree?
>: Awright, that's it... we've got to get to the root of all this.
>
>Agreed. Who'se been planting all of these puns around here?
<Pokey furrows his brow> i'm not sure....i think they just keep cropping up.
Jeremy Livingstone
Guys, doo the words "dead wood" mean anything to you?
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