People are total shit. Unrelieved and intolerable. Pathetic whiny, lazy,
self-important crap.
Backstabbing and petty. Few ever grow past being petulant children.
Even the best seeming are utter slime at their core. Just give them the
chance and they will stomp on you, screw you, steal everything they can
get their greedy little hands on. There is no such thing as a good person,
merely one who hasn't yet been given the opportunity to let his true self
show.
They live in pain, but seek to ignore or deny it; and to make themselves
feel better they inflict that pain on others, making all those around them
miserable so that they can seem better off by comparison. Shoving each
other farther down in the slime so they can avoid the fact that they are
themselves drowning in it.
The few who aspire to rise above the wretched morass are ridiculed,
ignored, abused, and pounded down. People don't like being reminded of
their, not failures because that would assume that they tried at some
point, but their utter lack of any effort to improve their own lot.
Why the fuck do we even bother wallowing in this cesspit. Are even the
best of them nothing more than the few turds that manage to float to the
top?
Why do i even bother tolerating this shit? Why am i even here?
Sometimes i think the only reason most of us bother putting up with the
stench of mankind is just sheer apathy and inertial. "Who would fardels
bear..."
Fuck this world and all who live in it.
Hardrock, what is left of him
--
Hardrock Llewynyth DNRC GAC
hard...@speakeasy.org http://www.speakeasy.org/~hardrock
"True, I have observed the life down here long and carefully enough, but
the world is full of diversity and is never wanting in painful suprises."
--Franz Kafka, "The Burrow"
>Every day it gets harder to tolerate this miserable cesspit.
>
>People are total shit. Unrelieved and intolerable. Pathetic whiny, lazy,
>self-important crap.
you know what hardrock?
suck it up.
Welcome to life.
No where in the welcome manual did it say that life would be easy, fun, or
pretty all the time.
You run around making all these assertions that people are backstabbing and
petty...and all important... etc.
and WHINY
Have you considered that perhaps you were PROJECTING?
I admit it...I felt sorry for you... I thought "hey...he's a nice guy...and
being dragged through the ringer..."
that was before I you proved just what a hypocrit you are...
and before your 200th rant about how miserable your life is.
>Fuck this world and all who live in it.
>
>Hardrock, what is left of him
>
whatever.
Eileen
---
Indiv...@aol.com
"You can do a lot more damage in the system than out of it." SLCP
Thug and Brute Squad member since April 2000
Thats why you can ignore them. Or reduce them in your eyes to stumps. Those
who fit the aforementioned categories are one of two things to a meaningful
person: Obstacles and objects of contempt/pity.
I work with them, I've lived with them, I've become something better than
them.
They are pustulating sores on humanity's rosy red starfish, and they're not
worth your time.
> Even the best seeming are utter slime at their core. Just give them the
> chance and they will stomp on you, screw you, steal everything they can
> get their greedy little hands on. There is no such thing as a good person,
> merely one who hasn't yet been given the opportunity to let his true self
> show.
I still maintain that there are humans who are worthwhile. If there were
not, I would simply give up as life itself would not be worth living. The
discovery is part of life, and you can allow it to crush you like a bug, or
you can suck it up, pull it in, and get on with the job.
That job being existence.
No one became a better person by sitting on their ass and moaning about how
other people ruined things for them. They became better people because they
rose above them.
I'm off to Europe this year. I'm taking the girlfriend to Disneyworld
because it's a lifelong dream of hers. Looking at those people who were
slime in my past, I see them either dead, on welfare, drunken and lost, or
simply coasting through a meaningless existence.
Living well is the best revenge.
Jeff-boy
You got a manual?
Ever and Always
Edvamp
Hardrock Llewynyth wrote:
<snip>
You're really a glass if half-empty kind of guy,
eh?
YMMV!
A
>> People are total shit. Unrelieved and intolerable. Pathetic whiny, lazy,
>> self-important crap.
>
>Thats why you can ignore them. Or reduce them in your eyes to stumps. Those
>who fit the aforementioned categories are one of two things to a meaningful
>person: Obstacles and objects of contempt/pity.
That is assuming i exempted myself from that category.
As Eileen so astutely pointed out, i fit right in with the rest of the
festering boils on the ass of society. The only thing that sets me
apart from them is that i happen to recognize myself for what i am.
I'm sure you won't have to look hard to find plenty of others who
agree. Your own posts made the same point not so long ago.
Ask around here and you'll find quite a lot more.
I may have been more at some point in time. Whatever it was i had
then that set me apart i lost. Along with everything else i've lost.
Personally, i've found that the only reason that anyone bothers to
consider me of any worth at all is through sheer ignorance, or refusal
to look too carefully.
Hardrock
--
Hardrock Llewynyth GAC DNRC hard...@speakeasy.org
http://www.speakeasy.org/~hardrock/
I will honour and express all facets of my being; regardless
of state and local laws.
> That is assuming i exempted myself from that category.
> As Eileen so astutely pointed out, i fit right in with the rest of the
> festering boils on the ass of society. The only thing that sets me
> apart from them is that i happen to recognize myself for what i am.
> I'm sure you won't have to look hard to find plenty of others who
> agree. Your own posts made the same point not so long ago.
> Ask around here and you'll find quite a lot more.
Not to argue with the assessment, I may not disagree with it in fact, but
simply put you can succeed is spite of all against you or allow it to defeat
you. The only difference between one and the other is who wins.
I intend to win.
You, however, appear to want to lose, or at best achieve a draw.
This is not what qualifies as something I consider a good thing.
> I may have been more at some point in time. Whatever it was i had
> then that set me apart i lost. Along with everything else i've lost.
No one loses anything. They choose to rid themselves of aspects of
themselves either because they want to, or they mistakenly believe they have
to. Decide what it was you 'lost' and get it back.
Jeff-boy
>>No where in the welcome manual did it say that life would be easy, fun, or
>>pretty all the time.
>
>You got a manual?
I Got one.
Course, it was written in Swaheelie.
Charles (aka: the Gruamach) http://home.stlnet.com/~gothcop
alt.gothic's own Garibaldi,Daddygoff and Jedi Footrubmaster
"He's a bit dodgy in the same way that a rat is a bit
covered in fur." -Door
You did not receive it?
For backorders consult a local priest or general religious leader.
the translations contain som eminor differences, but the overal scope should be the same.
" life is shit. Die and glorious things await you * "
*fine print: only when you are good in the eyes of $DEITY
tim?
stater of the obvious, asker of dumb question and generally dense guy
--
"We have reason to believe that man first walked upright to free his
hands for masturbation."
-- Lily Tomlin
The user's Manual of Life, Time, and Other Crap You Might Need to Understand
is, generally, handed out in abundance during those early years of life when
one is more content to gurgle, coo, and laugh after pasting one's forehead with
rice cereal and banana mush. Unfortunately, we usually end up dismantling it
with our uncoordinated digits, gumming the pages into wads of papier-mache, and
then swallowing them, thereby transforming the Knowledge of All That Is into a
brown, liquid goo.
The only information with which we are left is the understanding that paper is
an impressive source of fiber.
Go figure.
Nytwind
"Shit...when I grow up and get married, I'm going to live alone." --Blue Haze
The worst part of it all is that many of those who do grow up grow up to
be even more clever in their deviousness and slimeballery. Practice
makes them perfectly heinous.
>
> Even the best seeming are utter slime at their core. Just give them the
> chance and they will stomp on you, screw you, steal everything they can
> get their greedy little hands on. There is no such thing as a good person,
> merely one who hasn't yet been given the opportunity to let his true self
> show.
You know, if you remotely believe what you say, there's simply no point
in hanging around on this vale of tears unless you simply want to
experience the proof of your words, instead of merely suspecting that
all gloom is based in reality and all hopes of happiness are merely
wishful thinking.
>
> They live in pain, but seek to ignore or deny it; and to make themselves
> feel better they inflict that pain on others, making all those around them
> miserable so that they can seem better off by comparison. Shoving each
> other farther down in the slime so they can avoid the fact that they are
> themselves drowning in it.
Exactly! I myself am merely aggrandizing myself by hatefully affirming
your mopiness and driving you towards suicide. I will feed on your
angst. woe!
>
> The few who aspire to rise above the wretched morass are ridiculed,
> ignored, abused, and pounded down. People don't like being reminded of
> their, not failures because that would assume that they tried at some
> point, but their utter lack of any effort to improve their own lot.
Why bother? In the end "we're all dooooomed".
>
> Why the fuck do we even bother wallowing in this cesspit.
Too depresses to even suicide?
> Are even the
> best of them nothing more than the few turds that manage to float to the
> top?
You couldn't smell us if we were beneath the surface.
>
> Why do i even bother tolerating this shit? Why am i even here?
Can't afford aspirin? *nudge nudge* <evil grin, hits cell-phone
speed-dial to notify the other psychic vampires "tasty pain and
alienation here, come on over and tell him he's lame until he croaks
himself!">
>
> Sometimes i think the only reason most of us bother putting up with the
> stench of mankind is just sheer apathy and inertial. "Who would fardels
> bear..."
Um, sure I've got a spare bodkin for you!
>
> Fuck this world and all who live in it.
Who said we were even remotely alive? We're all just battening off of
your moroseness.
i got one but never had time to read the whole thing. I just skipped to the
last chapter, it said 42.
johnny
(who feels he missed something important)
<snip>
Wow... Hardrock, have you ever stopped to consider that maybe you only see what
you want to see?
Okay... hold that thought, but don't process it yet, because it probably means
something different than what you've read it as.
All people suffer from the same unfortunate condition - we always think we're
right. And it doesn't matter what the belief is, we will always seek out the
events which affirm that belief from the unorganized complex jumble that is
life.
Everyone does this. There are, of course, some cases that are more extreme than
others. Religious people will find acts of God where another might only see a
flood. Superstitious people might find a lucky hat where another might just see
their favourite team make the play-offs. Those damn "rahawa" fuckers see...
well... okay, I don't know what they see, but I sure as hell don't see it. But
it just goes to show the weaknesses of anecdotal evidence. Each has a belief
and either clings to specific shards and fragments of events, or distorts their
perception of events to back it up.
You're very obviously not a ShineyHappyGoff. And you allude to being hurt by
something/someone/many things/many people. I'm not saying that these aren't
real, or serious, or significant. But whatever the situation, it seems that
your perception of humainity has huge differences from what mine is.
> Even the best seeming are utter slime at their core. Just give them the
> chance and they will stomp on you, screw you, steal everything they can
> get their greedy little hands on. There is no such thing as a good person,
> merely one who hasn't yet been given the opportunity to let his true self
> show.
So where I see virtue, what do you see?
Does it back up your little theory?
> Fuck this world and all who live in it.
Sometimes you need to forget everything you know.
</sleep-deprived psycho-babble>
> Hardrock, what is left of him
>
^^Kitty.
___
It's been surreal...
http://members.home.net/somegirlnamedkaryn/
karyn @ canada.com
Hmm.
Is the glass half-empty,
half-full,
or merely twice as large as it needs to be?
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Please pardon my immodesty;
I don't speak with any intention of self-aggrandizement.
Still, questions about Hardrock Llewynyth's hands, which might one day hold
*my* Myst book, are unsettling to me:
>Every day it gets harder to tolerate this miserable cesspit.
>
>People are total shit. Unrelieved and intolerable. Pathetic whiny, lazy,
>self-important crap.
I am not.
>Backstabbing
Never.
>and petty.
Only when it is amusing.
>Few ever grow past being petulant children.
I am well past that,
by my own reckoning and others'
and I'm only 17.
>Even the best seeming are utter slime at their core.
Not so far as I have yet told,
and I'm more introspective than most.
>Just give them the chance and they will stomp on you, screw you, steal
>everything they can get their greedy little hands on.
Just.. just, no.
>There is no such thing as a good person, merely one who hasn't yet been given
>the opportunity to let his true self show.
I've been giving myself such an opportunity
for as long as I was aware of the possibility,
and I have yet proven to be polite, gentle, earnest,
and about as good of a person as I can be.
it makes life hell ,
as you seem to be appreciating.
>They live in pain, but seek to ignore or deny it;
nay, but have it
pass over me and through me,
>and to make themselves feel better they inflict that pain on others,
>making all those around them miserable so that they can seem better off by
>comparison.
Those I have made miserable
only a few of which I am aware,
and I am aware of a surprising amount
I have done so in attempting to connect with them
and failing
trying for a further stage of spiritual progression
than I was yet capable of,
and damaging both of us in the failing,
and I still tear myself to pieces over it.
>Shoving each other farther down in the slime so they can avoid the fact that
>they are themselves drowning in it.
Hmm.
(No. But also hmm.)
>The few who aspire to rise above the wretched morass are ridiculed, ignored,
>abused, and pounded down.
Can't deny this.
Has happened to me;
but
I have not done it,
which I think is the matter at hand.
>People don't like being reminded of their, not failures because that would
>assume that they tried at some point, but their utter lack of any effort to
>improve their own lot.
>
>Why the fuck do we even bother wallowing in this cesspit.
To produce those like you and I.
Nature says, break all you want, we'll make more.
Every now and again we get the enlightened,
and some rare times luminaries and the unmatchable,
and these are the point.
Consider humanity a random number generator.
>Are even the best of them nothing more than the few turds that manage to
>float to the top?
I'm not going to count this as an insult,
but I am going to say that I am nothing of the sort,
nor are you.
>Why do i even bother tolerating this shit? Why am i even here?
It isn't clear to me.
However, the question which I care more about is,
why are you indulging yourself?
All things in moderation,
angst as much as any other.
>Sometimes i think the only reason most of us bother putting up with the
>stench of mankind is just sheer apathy and inertial. "Who would fardels
>bear..."
>
>Fuck this world and all who live in it.
>
>Hardrock, what is left of him
Surprisingly little, if you keep this up.
More than you'd expect, if you'd stop wallowing in the muck,
and stand up as you amoung only few are capable of.
You can look up, or you wouldn't be saying this!
Not only have you eyes,
not mere light-sensing nodules but actual eyes,
but you have a spine!
Stop wallowing around in the muck
rubbing your eyes with mud
leaving your muscles atrophy prostrate
obsessing over the spineless, eyeless wretches
taking your enlightened self down their level,
breaking your heart over their failings which only you perceive,
tearing your soul apart Being below your means,
AND FUCKING STAND UP!
There aren't many of us in this world.
Humanity produces vast amount of chaff
for very little wheat.
And good god, man, sacrificing yourself on the altar of the lesser?
Martyr over this?
A conceivable noble cause, but you martyr your soul for nothing!
Plato's philosopher-king
returning to serve amoung the wretched and unenlightened,
it could be,
but all you do is go back down to beat your head against the ground
and tear apart someone far better than those who surround you,
FOR NO THING!
There's no reason to tear yourself apart over this,
and yet less to delude yourself into kindred with them,
and break yourself apart over the discontinuity.
FUCKING STAND UP! Get out of that pit!
You're more than that,
stronger than that,
you have eyes and spine and hands,
or you wouldn't even know these problems
for what they are.
fucking stand up
--
and come back up here.
>>No where in the welcome manual did it say that life would be easy, fun, or
>>pretty all the time.
>
>You got a manual?
didn't you?
Eileen (might be able to photocopy hers for a large fee)
>The user's Manual of Life, Time, and Other Crap You Might Need to Understand
>is, generally, handed out in abundance during those early years of life when
>one is more content to gurgle, coo, and laugh after pasting one's forehead
>with
>rice cereal and banana mush. Unfortunately, we usually end up dismantling it
>with our uncoordinated digits, gumming the pages into wads of papier-mache,
>and
>then swallowing them, thereby transforming the Knowledge of All That Is into
>a
>brown, liquid goo.
man were you a stupid baby.
I kept mine.
>The only information with which we are left is the understanding that paper
>is
>an impressive source of fiber.
<warning..dumb joke about to ensue>
So it all comes out well in the end then?
Eileen
Didn't you? Not only did I get a manual, I also got this cool
complimentary keychain/flashlight thingie.
(Which is cool, since I hear that these days they're giving out AOL disks
and a flyer with some URL's on it instead.)
--
-Jack-
"Death, it's not just for breakfast anymore."
>Backstabbing and petty. Few ever grow past being petulant children.
>
>Even the best seeming are utter slime at their core. Just give them the
>chance and they will stomp on you, screw you, steal everything they can
>get their greedy little hands on.
And by enlarge they seem to prosper by it.
Realising this and *not* following their example either makes you
better than them or stupid, depending on your viewpoint.
> There is no such thing as a good person,
Maybe the stupid, selfish and greedy outnumber the good, but there
*are* good people, perhaps; good and bad are always relative values
anyway.
>Why do i even bother tolerating this shit?
Because there's an eternity for the alternative.
>Fuck this world and all who live in it.
Yes, I can go with that, somedays...
Robin.
Cool
>*fine print: only when you are good in the eyes of $DEITY
Dammit
Insurance policy only good if you receive a black eye, in a hailstorm, during a
stampede of zebras, on the Fourth of July.
Ever and Always
Edvamp
Do they make a version on CD-Rom?
Ever and Always
Edvamp
>Do they make a version on CD-Rom?
>
nah.....they<tm> are still pretty behind the times...
they don't even have it on books on tape yet.
:You run around making all these assertions that people are backstabbing and
:petty...and all important... etc.
:and WHINY
:Have you considered that perhaps you were PROJECTING?
Hardrock's rants about welfare fraud only made sense when he revealed his
own welfare fraud.
Not that I have anything against welfare fraud per se. (see
http://www.suburbia.net/~fun/scn/orgs/canb/990419-look.html . boy, do I owe
society a lot of tax ...) But, hypocrisy in ranting equals target practice.
--
http://xenu.netizen.com.au/ http://www.caube.org.au/
"My energies are much better spent teaching people to eat pork than teaching
pigs to be civilized." (Dr K. "Cortez" Legume)
:>No where in the welcome manual did it say that life would be easy, fun, or
:>pretty all the time.
:You got a manual?
There wasn't one in the box, but the techs have worked pretty hard to write
usable ones after the fact. Start with 'Origin Of Species'.
Well, what can I say? You're right.
And you've only figured this out now?
I've known this since I was eight years old and living in the
hellhole that was Snow Hill, NC.
The only thing you can do about it is not be an asshole yourself
and know that you're better than them.
That's all I have to say on the matter, I suppose. I'm too tired
to think of more and I'm on borrowed time on my mama's
computer because my phone line got knocked out by the
thunderstorm from last night. (Grr, fucking country storms.)
Katherine, who can't wait 'till next year when she
(hopefully) moves in with Chris
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>>You got a manual?
>
>didn't you?
I was given something that was claimed to be a manual.
I have examined it quite regularly since then.
I haven't made up my mind yet.
>Hardrock's rants about welfare fraud only made sense when he revealed his
>own welfare fraud.
Um.... i never revealed any welfare fraud. AAMOF, i stated quite the
opposite. I got right the fuck off it when i realized that i didn't
actually need it anymore; even though i could have faked my way
through it quite convincingly. Like quite a number of people i knew
at that time did.
But then, if you actually bothered to read what i was saying, you
wouldn't find it quite so easy to take your pointless little
pot-shots.
... and this would be the type of post that keeps me coming back to
this group.
Bravo - you made my morning with this post.
--WorLord
"You could spend an hour counting the petals in a flower
It might take you a year to count the veins in each petal
If you spent ten lifetimes, maybe you could count its cells...
...but you'd have completely missed the point
You fuckhead."
>People are total shit. Unrelieved and intolerable. Pathetic whiny, lazy,
>self-important crap.
Yes, many are.
>Backstabbing and petty. Few ever grow past being petulant children.
Few, but some do.
>Even the best seeming are utter slime at their core. Just give them the
>chance and they will stomp on you, screw you, steal everything they can
>get their greedy little hands on. There is no such thing as a good person,
>merely one who hasn't yet been given the opportunity to let his true self
>show.
I disagree with that. There are good people, but they're few and far
between. Still, they're there. Perhaps you need to finetune your
procedures for finding them.
>The few who aspire to rise above the wretched morass are ridiculed,
>ignored, abused, and pounded down.
Yes, but those who do aspire to do so need to learn to ignore, learn from,
and come back up. They need to learn to keep their heads held high
against all that might try to keep them down.
They need to learn that living well is the best revenge. That eventually
it will make a difference, if they don't quit, that quitting will let
those who wish to squash them win.
>Why the fuck do we even bother wallowing in this cesspit.
The chance of truly rising above the shite.
>Why do i even bother tolerating this shit? Why am i even here?
Because somewhere in that brain of yours you still aspire to rise above
everything, you somewhat masochistically want to see how things will turn
out.
--
=Narnia= "Give me life, give me pain,
http://www.velvet.net/ give me myself again" - Tori Amos
Please do not send me spam, msword/non-text files, or chain letters
unless I ask for them or have given prior permission.
This reads like stereo instructions.
Ever and Always
Edvamp
>> You got a manual?
>
>Didn't you? Not only did I get a manual, I also got this cool
>complimentary keychain/flashlight thingie.
WOAH!
what year were you born??
I got NO such keychain/flashlight!!
I did however get a pair of nonskid socks.
>(Which is cool, since I hear that these days they're giving out AOL disks
>and a flyer with some URL's on it instead.)
ew