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=A|A=Blitzkrieg

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Oct 12, 2002, 10:52:02 PM10/12/02
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Yes tonight it was the same old song again

After playing a few rounds on Happy_Penguin_II the truth came out once more

After reviving about 100 Players I wanted to play as a engineer because the
allies where pressing forwards and we had only 2 engineers on our team.
So we where very important for defending the last AA gun
Now what was the problem

NO ammo even when there where 5 Lt's besides me and I was screaming my longs
to pieces
Then the enemy planted some dynamite and I got killed defusing it but not
gibbet then 3 Medics ran by shooting and none of them stopped to give a
prick so we lost the game AGAIN and AGAIN.

So here are a few lessons for everybody who likes to WIN for a change

Lt's Give ammo to ALL who need it

Medics Learn to use a needle and do it all the time to help your team

Soldiers Don't grab Thompson or a Mp 40 if you like that gun become a Lt so
we can get some ammo to

Engineers Stop planting dynamite on the objective that you need to protect
it makes the game harder for your team-mates to defuse the correct dynamite

And here is something for all classes
It doesn't matter if you have the highest score or not just as long your
team wins
Because if you have the highest score but your team loses the game then you
have lost as well
Remember like in a real war there are no points for second place just death
and shame

So don't run around like a idiot but think where you need to be to win AND
GO THERE

And here is a special message for all the people that like to play but stay
at the spawn doing nothing

FUCK OFF AND LEAVE THE SERVER SO SOMEONE ELSE CAN PLAY


=A|A=Blitzkrieg


[AGW]Thrash/er

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"=A|A=Blitzkrieg" <aa_bli...@home.nl> wrote in message
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LMAO been there!!
now only play with fellow agw's on the agw server it can run quite sweet
with 14 people(wich is more than enough to have some bloody good games),
UNTIL you get the spammers who shout ammo/medic all the FUCKING time, but
you very rarely hear and agw calling for ammo or medic more than once,
sometimes i wonder if people realise it's a !!!FUCKING GAME!!!!...

SO HERE'S MY PERSONAL MESSAGE TO ALL THE LAME BRAIN TWATS!!!!! WALK OUT
SIDE YOU NEVER KNOW THERE MIGHT BE SOME WHO LIKES YOU..............

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www.agwclan.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
I know it says clan but that was the
web addy that [AGW]craz logged for
his web site...
u are in [AGW] NOW!!!


Heckler 硎熔

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Oct 12, 2002, 11:14:06 PM10/12/02
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=A|A=Blitzkrieg wrote:
> Yes tonight it was the same old song again
>
> After playing a few rounds on Happy_Penguin_II the truth came out
> once more
>
> After reviving about 100 Players I wanted to play as a engineer
> because the allies where pressing forwards and we had only 2
> engineers on our team. So we where very important for defending the
> last AA gun Now what was the problem
>
> NO ammo even when there where 5 Lt's besides me and I was screaming
> my longs to pieces

Speaking from experience, idiots who keep screaming for ammo or health,
rarely get it... Call for it, let them know where you are, then shut the
feck up and either tap out adn respawn or wait.. try a little patience, or
find another game to play.

> Then the enemy planted some dynamite and I got killed defusing it but
> not gibbet then 3 Medics ran by shooting and none of them stopped to
> give a prick so we lost the game AGAIN and AGAIN.

Maybe they already thought you were a big enough prick already.

> So here are a few lessons for everybody who likes to WIN for a change

Yeah, PLAY THE FECKIN GAME FOR FUN.. win or lose.. have fun.. that's allt
hat counts... only cheaters and lamers want to win all the time.

> Lt's Give ammo to ALL who need it

Unless they're a whinging spammer

> Medics Learn to use a needle and do it all the time to help your team

Unless they're a whinging spammer...

> Soldiers Don't grab Thompson or a Mp 40 if you like that gun become a
> Lt so we can get some ammo to

Or be a soldier with what ever wepon you want... soldiers with thompson or
mp40 have more ammo and can still move quickly...

> Engineers Stop planting dynamite on the objective that you need to
> protect it makes the game harder for your team-mates to defuse the
> correct dynamite

Finally some sense... took ya long enough, and it gets lost amongst the
whinging.

> And here is something for all classes
> It doesn't matter if you have the highest score or not just as long
> your team wins

Bollox... as long as you have fun, that's ALL that matters... feck anyone
who says otherwise... enjoy ya self... if ya team wins bonus... if ya lose,
tough shit.

> Remember like in a real war there are no points for second place just
> death and shame

Fortunately on USENET, there are archieves, so you can come back and see
what a dick you are.

> So don't run around like a idiot but think where you need to be to
> win AND GO THERE

So don't whingle like an idiot and play the fecking game for fun.

> And here is a special message for all the people that like to play
> but stay at the spawn doing nothing

> FUCK OFF AND LEAVE THE SERVER SO SOMEONE ELSE CAN PLAY

If I were you, I'd start taking your own advice on that one.


H
--
"If you were half the man I am, you wouldn't be such a narrow minded
fool."


Heckler 硎熔

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Oct 12, 2002, 11:16:01 PM10/12/02
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[AGW]Thrash/er wrote:
> LMAO been there!!
> now only play with fellow agw's on the agw server it can run quite
> sweet with 14 people(wich is more than enough to have some bloody
> good games), UNTIL you get the spammers who shout ammo/medic all the
> FUCKING time, but you very rarely hear and agw calling for ammo or
> medic more than once, sometimes i wonder if people realise it's a
> !!!FUCKING GAME!!!!...
>
> SO HERE'S MY PERSONAL MESSAGE TO ALL THE LAME BRAIN TWATS!!!!!
> WALK OUT SIDE YOU NEVER KNOW THERE MIGHT BE SOME WHO LIKES
> YOU..............

Shhhhh don't encourage them.

Murphy

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Oct 12, 2002, 11:19:41 PM10/12/02
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Didn't I shot the crap out of you last night ?

MURPHY

Heckler 硎熔

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Oct 13, 2002, 12:09:03 AM10/13/02
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Murphy wrote:
> Didn't I shot the crap out of you last night ?
>

Careful, he might accuse you of cheating. :o)

cannonfodder

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Oct 13, 2002, 5:16:00 AM10/13/02
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=A|A=Blitzkrieg wrote:

[rant snipped]

sshhh... I'll tell you a secret: in any given group of people, there are a
few winners and a whole lot of losers. It gets even worse on
Internet/Usenet/public servers. Deal with it or play with like-minded
people. Complaining is futile (and will most likely make you feel more
miserable).

Regards, cf.


--
"A Northern professor resident in the South has written that Southerners
apply the term 'Yankee' as the Greeks did 'barbarian'."
Richard Weaver

Nick Zitzmann

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Oct 13, 2002, 8:51:42 AM10/13/02
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In article <aoaodc$knb6l$1...@ID-31263.news.dfncis.de>,
"Heckler 硎熔" <Larfo...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> =A|A=Blitzkrieg wrote:
> > Soldiers Don't grab Thompson or a Mp 40 if you like that gun become a
> > Lt so we can get some ammo to
>
> Or be a soldier with what ever wepon you want... soldiers with thompson or
> mp40 have more ammo and can still move quickly...

So can LTs. And LTs can get ammo refills, and they can have as many
grenades as they want. There's no point to playing as a soldier with an
SMG; you're just being a burden on the team.

Nick Zitzmann
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(Go there to send E-Mail to me!)

Daniel Crichton

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Oct 13, 2002, 9:00:12 AM10/13/02
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"Nick Zitzmann" <ple...@seemysig.thanks> wrote in message
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> In article <aoaodc$knb6l$1...@ID-31263.news.dfncis.de>,
> "Heckler 硎熔" <Larfo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > =A|A=Blitzkrieg wrote:
> > > Soldiers Don't grab Thompson or a Mp 40 if you like that gun become a
> > > Lt so we can get some ammo to
> >
> > Or be a soldier with what ever wepon you want... soldiers with thompson
or
> > mp40 have more ammo and can still move quickly...
>
> So can LTs. And LTs can get ammo refills, and they can have as many
> grenades as they want. There's no point to playing as a soldier with an
> SMG; you're just being a burden on the team.

An SMG armed soldier still has his place - 4 nades instead the LT's one (I
know, LT can rearm to get more nades, but he can't throw 4 in quick
succession), and has more ammo than an engineer.

Dan / [AGW]Spacker


Tawakullna

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Oct 13, 2002, 9:27:52 AM10/13/02
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I'll play but I'm crap.


=A|A=Blitzkrieg

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Oct 13, 2002, 1:56:18 PM10/13/02
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Heckler 硎熔 you are a real asshole
All you do is talk shit about everybody that likes the game or has a few
ideas of how it could be even better.

And there really are no points for second place.
So when i have more then 500 points but my teams lost i have 0 points.

When I play I'm mostly in the top 10 not because I kill so many but because
I use my mind
This means as a medic revive and give health and as a Lt drop ammo as much
as possible.

When you play as a medic you get more ammo then you can carry but when you
play as a engineer you get nothing because you cant give them something even
when you are the most important player for defense.

=A|A=Blitzkrieg


bigpapaash

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Oct 13, 2002, 2:14:04 PM10/13/02
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when do you actually throw four gernades in succession??? never had to do
that
matt
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Daniel Crichton

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Oct 13, 2002, 3:46:24 PM10/13/02
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"bigpapaash" <bigpa...@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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> when do you actually throw four gernades in succession??? never had to do
> that

I have a habit of doing it when I know there's an enemy in a doorway or
around a corner - throw 3 or 4 and hope he misses one of them being thrown
when the first goes off, and runs forward into one of the others. Works
about 50% of the time :)

Dan / [AGW]Spacker


C Lund

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Oct 13, 2002, 3:42:53 PM10/13/02
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In article <MJiq9.26912$NW3.4104@sccrnsc03>,
"bigpapaash" <bigpa...@mchsi.com> wrote:

>when do you actually throw four gernades in succession??? never had to do
>that

Not necessarily in succession, but I have had grenade-lobbing sessions
with guys around the corner...

>matt

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C Lund, Oslo
http://www.notam02.no/~clund/

Heckler 硎熔

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Oct 13, 2002, 3:46:57 PM10/13/02
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=A|A=Blitzkrieg wrote:
> Heckler 硎熔 you are a real asshole
> All you do is talk shit about everybody that likes the game or has a
> few ideas of how it could be even better.

All you do is whinge, complain, talk bollox.... threaten to post aimbots....
guess what... that's not gonna make you friends... and for the handfull that
like you for doing that, a thousand will think of you as a whinging, lamer
pussy.... of course you're not looking for respect, or the admiration of
fellow players... if you were, you'd probably do something really lame like
make a claim to how good you are.

> And there really are no points for second place.

And there are none for whinging pussies... STFU and play the damn game you
lamer.... I assume the =A|A= is a clan tag... so go play with ya buddies...
or come along to the AGW server and find out what it's really about, and
when you start whinging for ammo or medic, you'll get kicked for being a
whinging, spamming arsehole.

> So when i have more then 500 points but my teams lost i have 0 points.

No, you have 500 points... can you not count?

> When I play I'm mostly in the top 10 not because I kill so many but
> because I use my mind

Aha.. claims of superiority... translation = "I'm a lamer with a small dick,
who can only brag that i'm good" Guess what, we've looked you up, we've
followed you around, we've spectated you... You aint that good, you spam too
much... basically you're a pussy.

So use your mind now, stop being an ignorant, arrogant, lamer, whinging
tosspot... look outside, hell try going outside.. interact with people in
the real world, find a girl... find a guy you connect with for just a
moment... coz that's all life is, a collection of moments... shame to waste
them all whinging about a game.

> This means as a medic revive and give health and as a Lt drop ammo as
> much as possible.

And whinge as much as possible... I've seen you do it... whoopdedo.. you
give out ammo/health.... I've seen people ignore you, because you spam
"medic" or "ammo" so bloody much.... you're ya own worst enemy.

> When you play as a medic you get more ammo then you can carry but
> when you play as a engineer you get nothing because you cant give
> them something even when you are the most important player for
> defense.

I'm sure you play the game to the best of your abilities, but when you act
like a complete whinging lamer c**t, ya gonna get treated like one.

Your mother must be so proud.

Heckler 硎熔

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cannonfodder wrote:
> =A|A=Blitzkrieg wrote:
>
> [rant snipped]
>
> sshhh... I'll tell you a secret: in any given group of people, there
> are a few winners and a whole lot of losers. It gets even worse on
> Internet/Usenet/public servers. Deal with it or play with like-minded
> people. Complaining is futile (and will most likely make you feel more
> miserable).
>
> Regards, cf.


This man knows what he's on about... have a look at his stats on the AGW
stats page.... he doesn't give a fuck about winning, just having fun....
Even though the AGW tag is open for all to use, it's only if you use it
fairly and with honour..... even if you are a lousy shot when team mates are
around on Tram. :o)

cannonfodder

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Oct 13, 2002, 5:35:47 PM10/13/02
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Heckler ²ºº² wrote:

> This man knows what he's on about... have a look at his stats on the AGW
> stats page.... he doesn't give a fuck about winning, just having fun....

I'm on a very early part of the learning curve. Doesn't seem to get better
:-(

> Even though the AGW tag is open for all to use, it's only if you use it
> fairly and with honour..... even if you are a lousy shot when team mates
> are around on Tram. :o)

I know I suck at actually killing enemies. So I try to make up by teaming
up, supplying the rest of the team with ammo, following the netiquette, ...
Just trying to fit in while having fun.

Regards, cf.


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it's subjects, 'This you may not read, this you must not see, this you are
forbidden to know', the end result is tyranny and oppression, no matter how
holy the motives." - Robert A. Heinlein

]NTT[

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Oct 13, 2002, 9:14:59 PM10/13/02
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Laughing my ass of here :p

Another one who thinks he is the only one who knows how to play the game and
must spread his gospel to the rest of us,,
Only one word >> STFU
Publics are for everyone so play for fun there,, you are in a clan,, there
you can play serious,, at least that's the way i do it.
So stop whining and grant somebody else his pleasure.


12bit-parity / [RWD]12bit /[12bit.Wabbit]

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Tawakullna

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"]NTT[" <n...@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
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> Publics are for everyone so play for fun there,, you are in a clan,, there
> you can play serious,, at least that's the way i do it.

That is a very good point. People like me really have to use the public
servers, because I am not in a clan, unlikely to be in the foreseeable
future, and I am not very good at the MP game, I have a shite connection
which has loads of lag and cuts out a lot, nor do I have the time to play
for for more than a few minutes in the evening. If I get an uninterrupted
1/2 hour, with no kids to put to bed, no Mrs. to attend to, or 'phone to
answer, then that's my online MP time, usually cut short by the wife picking
up the 'phone to dial home-shopping.

So the public servers do what they're intended to, give me a few minutes of
fun. I'd like to play more seriously and I don't go around shooting my own
team (well not intentionally!) or behaving like a wanker, but for the above
reasons serious play isn't likely to happen. It's a bit gutting when you are
trying your best and get slagged off and/or ignored by more experienced
players who really should know better. Everyone was a "noob" once. This
wasn't so important in days gone by when a lot of games online were just
shoot em ups, but now so much is team based, people have to learn somewhere.
There are a lot of things about public servers I don't like, but I'm not in
a position to criticise too much as without those same public servers I'd
have no online play at all.


Nick Zitzmann

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Oct 14, 2002, 7:14:41 AM10/14/02
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In article <aodvpn$9nj$1...@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>,
"Tawakullna" <tawak...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "]NTT[" <n...@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
> news:aod5pd$1rp$1...@news1.xs4all.nl...
> > Publics are for everyone so play for fun there,, you are in a clan,, there
> > you can play serious,, at least that's the way i do it.
>
> That is a very good point. People like me really have to use the public
> servers, because I am not in a clan, unlikely to be in the foreseeable
> future, and I am not very good at the MP game, I have a shite connection
> which has loads of lag and cuts out a lot, nor do I have the time to play
> for for more than a few minutes in the evening. If I get an uninterrupted
> 1/2 hour, with no kids to put to bed, no Mrs. to attend to, or 'phone to
> answer, then that's my online MP time, usually cut short by the wife picking
> up the 'phone to dial home-shopping.

I can see where Blitzkrieg is coming from, though, because no one likes
to play with complete idiots. I was once in a public OLTL match when I
noticed a player on my team spawned as a panzer and hid behind the base
on mp_trenchtoast. So when my team was wiped out and he was the only
person left (since he didn't participate in the main fighting), the
other team went looking for him. When they found him, he launched the
panzer at point blank range, blowing himself up and giving our team the
stupidest loss ever.

I ended up voting him off the server... But if people are going to do
stupid things like that, they shouldn't do them in the multiplayer game.
RtCW does ship with a single player version as well, and that's a good
stepping stone for learning the game.

Heckler 硎熔

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cannonfodder wrote:

> Heckler 硎熔 wrote:
>
>> This man knows what he's on about... have a look at his stats on the
>> AGW stats page.... he doesn't give a fuck about winning, just having
>> fun....
>
> I'm on a very early part of the learning curve. Doesn't seem to get
> better :-(

It does, but everyone else is also improving at the same time... so
sometimes it seems like ya standing still..

>> Even though the AGW tag is open for all to use, it's only if you use
>> it fairly and with honour..... even if you are a lousy shot when
>> team mates are around on Tram. :o)
>
> I know I suck at actually killing enemies. So I try to make up by
> teaming up, supplying the rest of the team with ammo, following the
> netiquette, ... Just trying to fit in while having fun.

I know mate, I'm just having some fun with ya. :O)

bigpapaash

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Oct 14, 2002, 10:45:21 AM10/14/02
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true it does come with a sp version... but the nazi's dont' run and jump and
do all the things a human player would to avoid a bullet... plus the human
players sometims scare the crap out of you... coming out of nowhere with
guns a blazing... lol. I'm not condoning that move... its stupid to use a
panzer in a 0respawn level, just asking for yourself to be blown away... but
he was obviously a newbie and would have lost anyway... so was it as stupid
of a loss... atleast he got one or two???

matt / [agw]bigpapaash


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Daniel Crichton

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"bigpapaash" <bigpa...@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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> true it does come with a sp version... but the nazi's dont' run and jump
and
> do all the things a human player would to avoid a bullet... plus the human
> players sometims scare the crap out of you... coming out of nowhere with
> guns a blazing... lol. I'm not condoning that move... its stupid to use a
> panzer in a 0respawn level, just asking for yourself to be blown away...
but
> he was obviously a newbie and would have lost anyway... so was it as
stupid
> of a loss... atleast he got one or two???

And the big difference is that the SP version doesn't have all of the MP
features - player classes, special items, objectives, flags, etc. The only
way to practice MP is to play on a public server, or if you have a LAN and
some friends then a private server. When I first started to play Quake,
Unreal, UT, etc. in MP you could just fire up a server on your own machine
with bots. But RTCW doesn't have bots (until the new version comes out) so
that's just not possible. Had there been bots I probably would have played
MP by myself first, just as I have done recently with BF1942.

Dan / [AGW]Spacker


Tawakullna

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"Nick Zitzmann" <ple...@seemysig.thanks> wrote in message>

> I can see where Blitzkrieg is coming from, though, >because no one likes


> to play with complete idiots.

I can see where he's coming from too. It's one thing to play with people who
are crap (like me) but try. It's another thing to play with wankers who just
prat about. But unf. that's the nature of the public servers. I was in a
game the other night, and after being killed lots and lots and lots actually
started doing quite welll (for me!) as a sniper with some decent cover and a
good position in MP Beach, only to be blown up by one of my own team with a
panzerfaust who then went wild shooting everything in sight. What CAN you
do?


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