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Malcolm Smith

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Sep 12, 2002, 6:42:22 PM9/12/02
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Courtesy of my cat jumping on the keyboard, I have a corpse 'on a ship'
in Ocean of Tears! Stop laughing.

I've seen both (I think there are only two?) Ships again and no corpse.

Have I missed another ship and is it still going around and around?

Can I get my corpse back? Am I sunk?

(Lvl17 gnome paladin.)
--
Malcolm

TwoHead

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Sep 12, 2002, 6:50:38 PM9/12/02
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Bad news is that ship captains before a burial at sea before zoning out
of the ocean so your corpse is at the bottom next to the zone line. You
can either take the ship and jump off near the zone line and swim for it
or try petitioning if you can't get help for that CR because as a lvl 17
pally I dunno if you'll have the swim skill to get to corpse without
drowning. If they haven't changed it CS staff used to help with this.

th

Dark Tyger

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Sep 12, 2002, 6:52:59 PM9/12/02
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Malcolm Smith <mal...@tringhenge.co.uk> wrote:

>Courtesy of my cat jumping on the keyboard, I have a corpse 'on a ship'
>in Ocean of Tears! Stop laughing.
>
>I've seen both (I think there are only two?) Ships again and no corpse.
>
>Have I missed another ship and is it still going around and around?
>
>Can I get my corpse back? Am I sunk?

You're sunk. Literally. No, really, check the bottom of the sea right
where the boat zones out....

--
Dark Tyger, the slightly eccentric, railgun-toting kitty kat
Email me at comcast.net
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"There are no happy endings because nothing ever ends" -Schmendric, The Last Unicorn

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Jlmc

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Sep 12, 2002, 7:00:14 PM9/12/02
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A corpse will not Zone. If it is on a ship when the Ship Zones the Corpse is
left at the Zone line. Best thing to do is Petition or pay a Necro to summon
it. 1 other option is the get a couple chipped bone rods (3 charges of
Locate Corpse) and go for a swim in OOT every now and then click on the rod
it will point you in the direction of the Corpse.
"Malcolm Smith" <mal...@tringhenge.co.uk> wrote in message
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Just Me

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Sep 12, 2002, 8:12:13 PM9/12/02
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Or grab a bard to use their lvl 4 corpse location song.

I would suggest a petition though.

"Jlmc" <none> wrote in message news:uo273q1...@corp.supernews.com...

Watchman

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Sep 12, 2002, 11:44:46 PM9/12/02
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Jlmc wrote:
>
> A corpse will not Zone. If it is on a ship when the Ship Zones the Corpse is
> left at the Zone line. Best thing to do is Petition or pay a Necro to summon
> it. 1 other option is the get a couple chipped bone rods (3 charges of
> Locate Corpse) and go for a swim in OOT every now and then click on the rod
> it will point you in the direction of the Corpse.

Ask someone to cast a spell that allows you to breath under water before
you try that, or ask your local friendly Iksar to drag your corpse to
safety for you.

Cheers Watchman :)


--
'Anyone who isn't confused doesn't really know what's going on'

Malcolm Smith

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Sep 13, 2002, 3:42:27 AM9/13/02
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In message <3D811498...@2omar2world2.com>, TwoHead
<t...@2omar2world2.com> writes

Well, with a swimming skill of 4 I think I will stay on dry land.

Petitioning had no result last night, will try again today.
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Malcolm

Malcolm Smith

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Sep 13, 2002, 3:42:49 AM9/13/02
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In message <pl62ougmf19cfp1qn...@4ax.com>, Dark Tyger
<dark...@nowhere.com> writes

>Malcolm Smith <mal...@tringhenge.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Courtesy of my cat jumping on the keyboard, I have a corpse 'on a ship'
>>in Ocean of Tears! Stop laughing.
>>
>>I've seen both (I think there are only two?) Ships again and no corpse.
>>
>>Have I missed another ship and is it still going around and around?
>>
>>Can I get my corpse back? Am I sunk?
>
>You're sunk. Literally. No, really, check the bottom of the sea right
>where the boat zones out....

Thanks :)

Anyone got a submarine?
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Malcolm

Malcolm Smith

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Sep 13, 2002, 3:43:13 AM9/13/02
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In message <uo273q1...@corp.supernews.com>, Jlmc <none@?.?.invalid>
writes

>A corpse will not Zone. If it is on a ship when the Ship Zones the Corpse is
>left at the Zone line. Best thing to do is Petition or pay a Necro to summon
>it. 1 other option is the get a couple chipped bone rods (3 charges of
>Locate Corpse) and go for a swim in OOT every now and then click on the rod
>it will point you in the direction of the Corpse.


Thanks for the info.
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Malcolm

Malcolm Smith

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Sep 13, 2002, 3:44:49 AM9/13/02
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In message <rae2ou8hdl63dto4i...@4ax.com>, Godot
<nos...@hotmail.com> writes
>Pay a necro. There is a 16 level spell that will "drag" a corpse from
>whereever it is in the zone to the necro, as long as you are under
>35th level.

I could be in debt for a long time! Do they charge interest if you are
skint?

Ah well, thanks for all the advice people. I may just start a new
character since that was my first and I have learnt rather a lot these
past three weeks.
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Malcolm

Malcolm Smith

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Sep 13, 2002, 3:43:30 AM9/13/02
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In message <uo2bau9...@corp.supernews.com>, Just Me <J...@Schmoh.com>
writes

>Or grab a bard to use their lvl 4 corpse location song.
>
>I would suggest a petition though.

I will, thanks.
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Malcolm

Sabraizu

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Sep 13, 2002, 4:31:13 AM9/13/02
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On Thu, 12 Sep 2002 16:00:14 -0700, "Jlmc" <none> told the world:

A lot (I won't say all, coz I'm not sure) boats zone well before teh
edge of teh zone, get a loc just before the boat zones, and you'll
have a good idea of where to look
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Dark Tyger

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Sep 13, 2002, 4:38:14 AM9/13/02
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Malcolm Smith <mal...@tringhenge.co.uk> wrote:

Yeah, a yellow one....

Malcolm Smith

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Sep 13, 2002, 6:00:09 AM9/13/02
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In message <fv83ou4m3r7n97psa...@4ax.com>, Dark Tyger
<dark...@nowhere.com> writes
>Malcolm Smith <mal...@tringhenge.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>Anyone got a submarine?
>
>Yeah, a yellow one....

How much to hire ;)

Well, no luck finding a Necro and no GMs online this morning. So, shall
I carry the character on, showing determination, or just start another?

I favour carrying on, just because I refuse to be defeated. But the
thought of killing another 50odd elementals for one bit of iron oxide
(for breastplate) doesn't fill me with enthusiasm!

At least it won't happen again - the cat will be legless soon ;)
--
Malcolm

Sparkup

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Sep 13, 2002, 6:58:55 AM9/13/02
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"Malcolm Smith" <mal...@tringhenge.co.uk> wrote in message
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What server are you on?
My necro is in OOT on Antonius Bayle if that helps at all.


John Burton

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Sep 13, 2002, 7:14:31 AM9/13/02
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"Sparkup" <non...@yourbusiness.org> wrote in message
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He is on AB. I've also said via email that I'll help him get his corpse
too so now he has two options...

Best advice to the original poster is to consider joining a good guild.
Generally someone in a guild will drop what they are doing and go
help you out when things like this happen.

And also to say that petition probably would work eventually. I recently
fell in
the chasm in karana just out of HHK due to an enormous amount of lag.
And couldn't get to my corpse or even see it. And I'm level 36 so I couldn't
use the
summon corpse spell I've got to find it.

They answered my petition and got my corpse back although it took about
4 hours for them to get to me.


jaZZmanian Devil

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Sep 13, 2002, 7:23:09 AM9/13/02
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Nobody drowns in EQ unless you go too deep or leave the keyboard. No
matter how bad your swim skill is. At level 17 you can get your skill up
to around 85 which should be fine. I'd suggest, if you are going to get
it yourself, that you just go swim around in a safe area until you max
it out, then ride the boat to near the zone, jump off, swim after the
boat until you hit the zone line and dive. You'll find it. I've swum all
over OoT and you'll be surprised at how shallow the water is. Just make
sure you have a /corpse hotkey set up.

An easier method, of course, is to purchase a coffin and ask a friendly
necro to summon it to dry land for you.

--
"Would you care for a sammich?"

Graefaxe

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Sep 13, 2002, 7:30:02 AM9/13/02
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"Malcolm Smith" <mal...@tringhenge.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> Well, with a swimming skill of 4 I think I will stay on dry land.
>

You will not die just swimming to the corpse and you can loot it even with a
bad swim skill (just pay very close attention to the air remaining for your
char). It's best to find a friend who will sow you and levitate you once
you know where the corpse is, or, even easier, get a friendly necro to
summon the corpse (the coffin costs about 2pp at any bag vendor).


Malcolm Smith

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Sep 13, 2002, 8:43:00 AM9/13/02
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In message <__jg9.988$s76...@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>, Graefaxe
<Grae...@notmaixlx.com> writes

I've just had an offer from a friendly necro to sort me out :)
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Malcolm

Malcolm Smith

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Sep 13, 2002, 8:43:52 AM9/13/02
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In message <hFjg9.15394$zX3....@news.indigo.ie>, Sparkup
<non...@yourbusiness.org> writes

>
>What server are you on?
>My necro is in OOT on Antonius Bayle if that helps at all.

Antonious Bayle. I've just had an offer for help, but in case it goes
wrong I will remember your name. Thanks :)
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Malcolm

Malcolm Smith

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Sep 13, 2002, 8:45:39 AM9/13/02
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In message <alsha5$37s$1...@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>, John Burton
<john....@jbmail.com> writes

>
>He is on AB. I've also said via email that I'll help him get his corpse
>too so now he has two options...
>
>Best advice to the original poster is to consider joining a good guild.
>Generally someone in a guild will drop what they are doing and go
>help you out when things like this happen.

I'd been thinking about guilds, but hadn't gotten around to looking
further into the matter. I think I shall now :)

Thanks for the offer, email on it's way back.
--
Malcolm

Richard

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Sep 13, 2002, 10:14:54 AM9/13/02
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"Malcolm Smith" <mal...@tringhenge.co.uk> wrote in message
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What server are you one? I'm sure that you can find someone to help you,
either through this newsgroup, or just by sounding pitiful in the zone you
died in.

--
Graeme Faelban, Barbarian Luminary of 55 seasons, Erollisi Marr <The
Appointed>
Tainniel Fleabane, Halfling Warrior of 30 seasons, Erollisi Marr <The
Appointed>
Ganwein, Wood Elf Ranger of 15 seasons, Erollisi Marr <The Appointed>
Giluven, Wood Elf Druid of 15 seasons, Erollisi Marr <Decadence>
Graeniel, High Elf Enchanter of 22 seasons, Erollisi Marr <The Appointed>

Richard

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Sep 13, 2002, 10:19:22 AM9/13/02
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"Malcolm Smith" <mal...@tringhenge.co.uk> wrote in message
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I have had to do this before. Here is how I did it. Buy a chipped bone
rod. This has 3 charges of Locate Corpse. Ride the boat to near the zone
out. Hop off, use one charge of locate corpse. Swim in the direction it
turns you to until you hit the zone line. Swim down, your corpse should be
there. Loot it, keeping an eye on your breath remaining.

Alternatively, what server do you play on? If E Marr, I'd be glad to help
you if we can be on at the same time. If on another server, there is likely
someone here that would be willing to help if feasible.

Malcolm Smith

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Sep 13, 2002, 10:26:04 AM9/13/02
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In message <alsrt1$r16d$1...@ID-111521.news.dfncis.de>, Richard
<richar...@netscape.net> writes

>"Malcolm Smith" <mal...@tringhenge.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:yZsqobDj...@bellona.demon.co.uk...
>>
>> Petitioning had no result last night, will try again today.
>
>What server are you one? I'm sure that you can find someone to help you,
>either through this newsgroup, or just by sounding pitiful in the zone you
>died in.

I have, through here. I was saving pitiful as a last resort!
--
Malcolm

Sean Kennedy

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Sep 13, 2002, 10:34:05 AM9/13/02
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"Graefaxe" <Grae...@notmaixlx.com> wrote in
news:__jg9.988$s76...@nwrddc02.gnilink.net:

I think it was proven that how long you can hold your breath is
determined entirely by STA not by swim skill. And I've swum for
ages with my sta down around 0 and not gone "Glub Glub Glub" :)

I'd definitely do a /who bard and see if there's one who might
grab it for you.

Crash86

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Sep 13, 2002, 11:48:02 AM9/13/02
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"Sean Kennedy" wrote:> "Graefaxe" <Grae...@notmaixlx.com> wrote in

And there's always the Enduring Breath line of spells .... :-)

Crash


Richard

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Sep 13, 2002, 12:23:17 PM9/13/02
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"Sean Kennedy" <kse...@nospam.qwest.net> wrote in message
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Except for Iksar. They always last as long as anyone else does with Max
Stamina. All other races tested Stamina does change how long you last
before you drown. So, get the friendly Iksar, he has 130 seconds before he
starts to drown, regardless of his stamina.

ryouseika

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Sep 13, 2002, 2:05:16 PM9/13/02
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In article <alss5d$q6qt$1...@ID-111521.news.dfncis.de>,
richar...@netscape.net says...

> Alternatively, what server do you play on? If E Marr, I'd be glad to help
> you if we can be on at the same time. If on another server, there is likely
> someone here that would be willing to help if feasible.

And if you buy a coffin, my necro'll summon for you.

--
Ryou

Taellaar ~ 35 DE Rogue (pretty) ~ Erollisi Marr
Novasina ~ 16 DE Necro (cute) ~ Erollisi Marr

Tim Smith

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Sep 13, 2002, 2:24:38 PM9/13/02
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In article <3D811498...@2omar2world2.com>, TwoHead wrote:
> of the ocean so your corpse is at the bottom next to the zone line. You
> can either take the ship and jump off near the zone line and swim for it
> or try petitioning if you can't get help for that CR because as a lvl 17
> pally I dunno if you'll have the swim skill to get to corpse without
> drowning. If they haven't changed it CS staff used to help with this.

He might not be able to swim down and loot without drowning, but he should
be able to drag it OK. If there is a vertical limit on /corpse, it is
larger than the depth of the ocean.

Here's what I would try:

1. Make a "/corpse" hotkey.

2. Get on the boat, and target yourself.

3. As the boat gets near the zone, start hitting your /corpse hotkey.

4. As soon as you see the message that you've summoned the corpse,
instead of the message that it is too far away, jump off the boat, and
hit your /corpse key again, to make sure the corpse is still with you,
and not on the boat again.

5. Try typing /loot, or whatever the command is to start looting, and
see if that works. If it does, you might be able to loot while slowly
sinking, and get everything before you start to drown.

6. If /loot doesn't work, you can just swim on the surface to the
nearest island, using /corpse frequently as you go to drag the corpse to
the island.

--Tim Smith

John Burton

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Sep 13, 2002, 3:35:29 PM9/13/02
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"ryouseika" <nob...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.17ebc8b063c586a69898eb@shawnews...

> In article <alss5d$q6qt$1...@ID-111521.news.dfncis.de>,
> richar...@netscape.net says...
>
> > Alternatively, what server do you play on? If E Marr, I'd be glad to
help
> > you if we can be on at the same time. If on another server, there is
likely
> > someone here that would be willing to help if feasible.
>
> And if you buy a coffin, my necro'll summon for you.

It's done. It took me ages to find a coffin though, but they do only cost
1pp for the level 12 spell now. They used to be much more.


Sean Kennedy

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Sep 13, 2002, 5:07:25 PM9/13/02
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"Richard" <richar...@netscape.net> wrote in
news:alt3dp$t3h4$1...@ID-111521.news.dfncis.de:
>
> Except for Iksar. They always last as long as anyone else does with
> Max Stamina. All other races tested Stamina does change how long you
> last before you drown. So, get the friendly Iksar, he has 130 seconds
> before he starts to drown, regardless of his stamina.
>

Right you are, I forgot they had that advantage.

Malcolm Smith

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Sep 13, 2002, 6:20:55 PM9/13/02
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This is far too spooky. We share the same name, suffer the same problem
with cats and I, too, have had masses of problems with the boats in the
Ocean of Tears....

Malcolm
- Fantodus (Jesters In Norrath), Rogue on Antonius Bayle.


"Malcolm Smith" <mal...@tringhenge.co.uk> wrote in message

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> Courtesy of my cat jumping on the keyboard, I have a corpse 'on a ship'
> in Ocean of Tears! Stop laughing.
>
> I've seen both (I think there are only two?) Ships again and no corpse.
>
> Have I missed another ship and is it still going around and around?
>
> Can I get my corpse back? Am I sunk?
>
> (Lvl17 gnome paladin.)

> --
> Malcolm


Remington Stone

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Sep 13, 2002, 7:34:45 PM9/13/02
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Tim Smith said:
}He might not be able to swim down and loot without drowning, but he should
}be able to drag it OK. If there is a vertical limit on /corpse, it is
}larger than the depth of the ocean.

The vertical limit really isn't that far, unless they changed it. A few
months ago in Dalnir, we were unable to /corpse a corpse up the wells
without floating someone down to halfway to get it halfway there.

[56 Beguiler] Zinphandel Chianti <Ethereal Requiem> (Gnome) Ayonae Ro

Tim Smith

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Sep 14, 2002, 12:59:51 AM9/14/02
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In article <altsml$dsi$1...@woodrow.ucdavis.edu>, Remington Stone wrote:
> }be able to drag it OK. If there is a vertical limit on /corpse, it is
> }larger than the depth of the ocean.
>
> The vertical limit really isn't that far, unless they changed it. A few
> months ago in Dalnir, we were unable to /corpse a corpse up the wells
> without floating someone down to halfway to get it halfway there.

How deep are those wells? The deepest I've dragged is in Lake Rathe. I was
killed in the Goblin tower in one of the tunnels under the lake, and was
able to drag the corpse while swimming on the surface.

It's also possible that the distance limit depends on the zone. I think
dungeons may do more Z checking than non-dungeons.

--Tim Smith

Malcolm Smith

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Sep 14, 2002, 2:59:24 AM9/14/02
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In message <alss5d$q6qt$1...@ID-111521.news.dfncis.de>, Richard
<richar...@netscape.net> writes

>
>I have had to do this before. Here is how I did it. Buy a chipped bone
>rod. This has 3 charges of Locate Corpse. Ride the boat to near the zone
>out. Hop off, use one charge of locate corpse. Swim in the direction it
>turns you to until you hit the zone line. Swim down, your corpse should be
>there. Loot it, keeping an eye on your breath remaining.

Noted for future reference.

>Alternatively, what server do you play on? If E Marr, I'd be glad to help
>you if we can be on at the same time. If on another server, there is likely
>someone here that would be willing to help if feasible.

I've been sorted, thanks for the offer.
--
Malcolm

Malcolm Smith

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Sep 14, 2002, 3:00:06 AM9/14/02
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In message <MPG.17ebc8b063c586a69898eb@shawnews>, ryouseika
<nob...@nowhere.com> writes

>In article <alss5d$q6qt$1...@ID-111521.news.dfncis.de>,
>richar...@netscape.net says...
>
>> Alternatively, what server do you play on? If E Marr, I'd be glad to help
>> you if we can be on at the same time. If on another server, there is likely
>> someone here that would be willing to help if feasible.
>
>And if you buy a coffin, my necro'll summon for you.

Thanks, but I have been sorted. I hope I never have need of your
services, but I have made a note of your name just in case !
--
Malcolm

Malcolm Smith

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Sep 14, 2002, 3:00:46 AM9/14/02
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In message <3d823dec$0$66789$bed6...@pubnews.gradwell.net>, John Burton
<john....@jbmail.com> writes

>"ryouseika" <nob...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>news:MPG.17ebc8b063c586a69898eb@shawnews...
>> In article <alss5d$q6qt$1...@ID-111521.news.dfncis.de>,
>> richar...@netscape.net says...
>>
>> > Alternatively, what server do you play on? If E Marr, I'd be glad to
>help
>> > you if we can be on at the same time. If on another server, there is
>likely
>> > someone here that would be willing to help if feasible.
>>
>> And if you buy a coffin, my necro'll summon for you.
>
>It's done.

Indeed, and very grateful I am.

>It took me ages to find a coffin though, but they do only cost
>1pp for the level 12 spell now. They used to be much more.

That's why you couldn't find one, they've been bought up in the sale.
--
Malcolm

Malcolm Smith

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Sep 14, 2002, 3:04:39 AM9/14/02
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In message <uo4p51t...@corp.supernews.com>, Malcolm Smith
<malcol...@dragondrop.com> writes

>This is far too spooky. We share the same name, suffer the same problem
>with cats and I, too, have had masses of problems with the boats in the
>Ocean of Tears....

I think it is therefore fair to say that we should never, ever travel
together on the same boat!

Now, I must find somewhere suitable to get xp up to lvl22.
--
Malcolm
Alue, lvl18 Paladin

Malcolm Smith

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Sep 14, 2002, 6:14:28 AM9/14/02
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May I recommened Paludal? By the way, which server are you on?

Malc

On Sat, 14 Sep 2002 08:04:39 +0100, Malcolm Smith
<mal...@tringhenge.co.uk> wrote:

>In message <uo4p51t...@corp.supernews.com>, Malcolm Smith

>Now, I must find somewhere suitable to get xp up to lvl22.

Malcolm Smith

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Sep 14, 2002, 6:39:01 AM9/14/02
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In message <3v26ouofhs02lnn7o...@4ax.com>, Malcolm Smith
<malcol...@dragondrop.com> writes
>May I recommened Paludal?

You may :)

>By the way, which server are you on?

Antonious Bayle.
--
Malcolm

Malcolm Smith

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Sep 14, 2002, 8:27:51 AM9/14/02
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We must group up sometime in the Ocean Of Tears. Leave the cat
locked outside the room though.

Malc
- Fantodus (Jesters In Norrath)

rcsmiley

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Sep 13, 2002, 7:46:13 PM9/13/02
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Malcolm Smith <mal...@tringhenge.co.uk> wrote in message
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> I was saving pitiful as a last resort!

I always go for 'pitiful' first... saves time :o)


Malcolm Smith

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Sep 14, 2002, 3:03:27 PM9/14/02
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In message <koa6ouklchuqp9nf9...@4ax.com>, Malcolm Smith
<malcol...@dragondrop.com> writes

>We must group up sometime in the Ocean Of Tears. Leave the cat
>locked outside the room though.

Are you sure EQ is actually ready and able to cope with such an event?

Perhaps we should both buy coffins beforehand.
--
Malcolm
Alue, Gnome, lvl18 Paladin, Antonious Bayle

ryouseika

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Sep 15, 2002, 12:26:24 AM9/15/02
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Malcolm Smith who said to Malcolm Smith who mentioned to Malcolm Smith
who agreed with Malcolm Smith said:

In article <H473QeA$f4g9...@bellona.demon.co.uk>,
mal...@tringhenge.co.uk says...

> <snip discussion of doomed grouping>


Well, this is by far one of the stranger threads I've seen on my
newsreader :)

--
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Malcolm Smith

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Sep 15, 2002, 7:39:28 AM9/15/02
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Wait until we start flaming each other...

Malcolm (that's Malcolm Smith rather than the other Malcolm Smith)

On Sun, 15 Sep 2002 04:26:24 GMT, ryouseika <nob...@nowhere.com>
wrote:

Malcolm Smith

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Sep 15, 2002, 10:50:33 AM9/15/02
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In message <bas8oucrhgmfvcc5u...@4ax.com>, Malcolm Smith
<malcol...@dragondrop.com> writes

>Wait until we start flaming each other...

LOL!

What's your main character called? I'll watch for you and then check we
aren't near any kind of ship or possibly water too.

Malcolm Smith

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Sep 15, 2002, 3:59:09 PM9/15/02
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I tend to have three characters at the moment on Antonius Bayle.

- Fantodus 35 rogue, Guild Leader of the Jesters In Norrath) lost
somewhere in Dreadlands

- Wouldliketosell 26 cleric (not a mule) in a tunnel in Dreadlands
to recover corpse of the above

- OuttaTune Level 2 gay bard in North Freeport who has just run off
with the guild's treasury and is hanging about the bars looking for
(a) any sailors from the OoT and, (b) the new Guild Banker to turn up
to take the suff off his hands.

Malc

Malcolm Smith

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Sep 16, 2002, 1:57:42 AM9/16/02
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In message <rdp9ou04gk17rd75a...@4ax.com>, Malcolm Smith
<malcol...@dragondrop.com> writes

>I tend to have three characters at the moment on Antonius Bayle.
>
> - Fantodus 35 rogue, Guild Leader of the Jesters In Norrath) lost
>somewhere in Dreadlands

Ooops! I shall look for him, I'd like a word or 6!

> - Wouldliketosell 26 cleric (not a mule) in a tunnel in Dreadlands
>to recover corpse of the above

Ah, maybe that ooops is more of an Ooooooooopsy!!

Well, they are both safely outside my grouping range I think, so the
trouble we can cause is minimised ;)

Then again, I wonder what happens if two Malcolm Smith powered
characters meet??????

> - OuttaTune Level 2 gay bard in North Freeport who has just run off
>with the guild's treasury

It did look a tad empty yesterday. Perhaps he can help my Lvl 2
shortarse Druid Lemmy with a poem he's trying to write. Something about
bodies and oceans iirc, The Rhyme of the Idiot Paladin.

>and is hanging about the bars looking for
>(a) any sailors from the OoT and, (b) the new Guild Banker to turn up
>to take the suff off his hands.

Doesn't suff come of if you wash it with pixie dust?

Remington Stone

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Sep 15, 2002, 4:27:42 PM9/15/02
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Tim Smith said:
}In article <altsml$dsi$1...@woodrow.ucdavis.edu>, Remington Stone wrote:
}> }be able to drag it OK. If there is a vertical limit on /corpse, it is
}> }larger than the depth of the ocean.
}> The vertical limit really isn't that far, unless they changed it. A few
}> months ago in Dalnir, we were unable to /corpse a corpse up the wells
}> without floating someone down to halfway to get it halfway there.
}How deep are those wells? The deepest I've dragged is in Lake Rathe. I was
}killed in the Goblin tower in one of the tunnels under the lake, and was
}able to drag the corpse while swimming on the surface.

Really not sure... I know you can see mobs walk by under them, though, so
it's shorter than minimum clipping plane. :)

}It's also possible that the distance limit depends on the zone. I think
}dungeons may do more Z checking than non-dungeons.

Hmm, that seems highly likey.

Richard

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Sep 16, 2002, 9:58:11 AM9/16/02
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"rcsmiley" <rcsm...@steelweb.co.uk> wrote in message
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Yep, it rarely fails. :)

I have to admit to having used it a few times, I do ask in guild first
though. On the other hand, I am always willing to help out someone else who
sounds pitiful, so it balances out.

Richard

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Sep 16, 2002, 9:59:52 AM9/16/02
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"Malcolm Smith" <mal...@tringhenge.co.uk> wrote in message
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Not a problem, and happy hunting. I've only had to deal with dying on a
boat once, and it is a pain in the butt.

Richard

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Sep 16, 2002, 10:01:54 AM9/16/02
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"ryouseika" <nob...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> Malcolm Smith who said to Malcolm Smith who mentioned to Malcolm Smith
> who agreed with Malcolm Smith said:
>
> In article <H473QeA$f4g9...@bellona.demon.co.uk>,
> mal...@tringhenge.co.uk says...
>
> > <snip discussion of doomed grouping>
>
>
> Well, this is by far one of the stranger threads I've seen on my
> newsreader :)
>

Heh. I will second the Paludal recomendation, my enchanter is still
happilly leveling there at 22.

TwoHead

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Sep 16, 2002, 12:55:08 PM9/16/02
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Sean Kennedy wrote:
> I think it was proven that how long you can hold your breath is
> determined entirely by STA not by swim skill. And I've swum for
> ages with my sta down around 0 and not gone "Glub Glub Glub" :)
>

Swim speed is determined by skill. The amount of time you can hold
your breath being constant, a variance of swim skill makes all the
difference in being able to reach the bottom and return on one breath.

th

Malcolm Smith

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Sep 16, 2002, 11:48:53 AM9/16/02
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In message <am4o8m$2a894$1...@ID-111521.news.dfncis.de>, Richard
<richar...@netscape.net> writes

>"ryouseika" <nob...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>news:MPG.17edabcb1019af309898f0@shawnews...
>> Malcolm Smith who said to Malcolm Smith who mentioned to Malcolm Smith
>> who agreed with Malcolm Smith said:
>>
>> In article <H473QeA$f4g9...@bellona.demon.co.uk>,
>> mal...@tringhenge.co.uk says...
>>
>> > <snip discussion of doomed grouping>
>>
>>
>> Well, this is by far one of the stranger threads I've seen on my
>> newsreader :)
>>
>
>Heh. I will second the Paludal recomendation, my enchanter is still
>happilly leveling there at 22.

Once I get Luclin installed I am off. Meanwhile I am grinding XP solo
in North Ro/Oasis, debating whether to go earn money for better armour
instead. Decisions, decisions.

Malcolm Smith

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Sep 16, 2002, 2:08:30 PM9/16/02
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In message <h$cOhvAl1...@bellona.demon.co.uk>, Malcolm Smith
<mal...@tringhenge.co.uk> writes

>
>Once I get Luclin installed I am off. Meanwhile I am grinding XP solo
>in North Ro/Oasis, debating whether to go earn money for better armour
>instead. Decisions, decisions.

Hmpf. Died! Right, money for armour methinks.

Davian

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Sep 16, 2002, 5:53:09 PM9/16/02
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"TwoHead" <t...@2omar2world2.com> wrote in message
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The length of time that you hold your breath is not constant, it is based on
your stamina score. Not current stamina as in yellow bar, but your
numerical stamina value in your character stats.

I forget who exactly did the tests, but it was timed and the results were
posted to the newsgroup.


TwoHead

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Sep 16, 2002, 6:32:32 PM9/16/02
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hehe, this is fun.... For the given character in the case in question,
stamina is a constant, unless between going under the surface of the
water and returning to the surface he equips +sta equipment or receives
a +sta buff. Assuming a static amount of stamina a variance in the swim
skill will indeed be a factor as to how deep underwater he can retrieve
his corpse without drowning.

th

Sean Kennedy

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Sep 16, 2002, 7:18:51 PM9/16/02
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TwoHead <t...@2omar2world2.com> wrote in
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Much like strafing (which speed is independent of your running
speed) vertical velocity doesn't see to be dependent on your
forward velocity. This from observation of taking a level 1
rogue into the Hole many times.

Richard

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Sep 17, 2002, 9:48:07 AM9/17/02
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"Davian" <dav...@nospam.mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Jazz did. And you are correct, except for Iksars. They always get a
constant amount of time before they drown, regardless of Stamina.

jaZZmanian Devil

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Sep 17, 2002, 11:47:56 AM9/17/02
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Richard wrote:

> > The length of time that you hold your breath is not constant, it is based
> on
> > your stamina score. Not current stamina as in yellow bar, but your
> > numerical stamina value in your character stats.
> >
> > I forget who exactly did the tests, but it was timed and the results were
> > posted to the newsgroup.
>
> Jazz did. And you are correct, except for Iksars. They always get a
> constant amount of time before they drown, regardless of Stamina.

Credit where credit is due, Dan helped out with a portion of those tests
too. It was fun. But yes, we had the right combination of characters
available to test both factors independently of each other on everything
but the Iksar. Swim skill determines your speed, and *marginally* your
maneuverability at very high levels. Stamina, and stamina alone
determines how long you can hold your breath before you begin to drown
unless you are an Iksar. They can hold their breath an insanely long
time right from level one and barebones stats. Was unable to test
if/when it increased for them as they were geared up better with higher
STA and such.

--
"Would you care for a sammich?"

mungbean

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Sep 17, 2002, 6:37:23 PM9/17/02
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>
> You will not die just swimming to the corpse and you can loot it even with
a
> bad swim skill (just pay very close attention to the air remaining for
your
> char). It's best to find a friend who will sow you and levitate you once
> you know where the corpse is, or, even easier, get a friendly necro to
> summon the corpse (the coffin costs about 2pp at any bag vendor).


The coffin costs 2pp? when did this change? Last time my necro had to buy a
coffin they were still 175pp This was in Neriak, is there a place to buy
them cheaper? Would love to know where, save me alot of cash


Remington Stone

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Sep 17, 2002, 8:26:20 PM9/17/02
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mungbean said:
}> You will not die just swimming to the corpse and you can loot it even with
}> bad swim skill (just pay very close attention to the air remaining for
}> char). It's best to find a friend who will sow you and levitate you once
}> you know where the corpse is, or, even easier, get a friendly necro to
}> summon the corpse (the coffin costs about 2pp at any bag vendor).
}The coffin costs 2pp? when did this change? Last time my necro had to buy a
}coffin they were still 175pp This was in Neriak, is there a place to buy
}them cheaper? Would love to know where, save me alot of cash

The coffins for lesser summon corpse, the low-level summon corpse of
someone under level 35 spell, cost 2pp. Otherwise, it's business as
usual.

Richard

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"Remington Stone" <ez06...@runner.ucdavis.edu> wrote in message
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There are three different coffins.

For Necros:
At level 12, lesser summon corpse uses the cheap stackable coffins, only
summons corpses of players up to level 34?
At level 39, Summon Corpse uses the expensive, nonstackable coffins.
At level 57, Conjure Corpse uses the less expensive stackable coffins.
(About half the price of the nonstackable ones)

For SKs:
At level 25, Lesser Summon Corpse.
At level 51, Summon Corpse.
They don't get Conjure Corpse.

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