Lack of Holy Swords <-- major problem
yukit...@my-deja.com
didn't disappoint exactly, but at a measly 15 dmg, it gets obsolete
pretty quickly. Oo...then I picked up a Mithril Two Hander, which I am
*still* using. What about Soulfire you ask? It sucks... it's a pathetic
excuse for a holy sword... not *even* worth the time it takes to get it
now, thankfully I got it before the patch that screwed it up. On the
other hand, there are TONS of great 1h slashing weapons for the dual
wielding classes... SSOY comes to mind, EBW is another awesome
one... then there's the Dragon Claw from fear... However, what takes the
cake is this B.S. weapon we got off of Vox... the Scimitar of the
Mistwalker. It summons a pet more powerful than most level 50 tanks with
the best weapons. Ranger and druid only... Ok, so rangers are set as far
as weapons...rogues... yeah, bone razor and the gold plated koshigata...
warriors.. yup. Paladins and SKs have gotten the shaft. Completely
gyped. Where are the weapons that define our class? That set Paladins
above the rest? They don't exist.
Sure, there's Soul Leech, but with the insane difficulty of Fear and
Cazic Thule, fat chance a SK could ever aspire to get one. I want
respectable Holy Swords.. no more of these half ass ones like Soulfire..
it's slow, does crappy damage and has CHARGES.. not any kind of
reasonable effect. Something needs to be done to rectify the complete
lack of decent (un)holy swords... since our classes are dependent on
using 2h slashing to deal out major damage, give us something capable of
doing it already. This is ridiculous. Paladins and Shadowknights now
get completely out classed because of this. Correct this imbalance.
Yukitaro Antslayer, KEG GM, The Rathe
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get a class specific weapon. (WIZ only? MAG only? ENC only? etc..)
if you dont like your class, PICK ANOTHER..
there has been plenty more peopel than you that play Paladins that get up to
level 50 and love their class and its weapons... there are some that will
never hit level 50 and still love their class. you are the one that has a
problem, not the class or its weapons.
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> stupid whine snipped <
> Correct this imbalance.
Sam Schlansky
effort required. At least you've got the mithril 2-hander... awesome
weapon.
However... it's been confirmed that Verant is working on quest weapons
for EVERY melee class. Ranger-specific weapons will go in first, since
they're already on TS, but don't doubt that paladin-specific ones will
be right up there.
Sam
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<xeno...@NOSPAMdarkcastle.com> wrote:
>what imbalance? Paladins get their "holy" swords.. most classes dont even
>get a class specific weapon. (WIZ only? MAG only? ENC only? etc..)
>
>if you dont like your class, PICK ANOTHER..
>
>there has been plenty more peopel than you that play Paladins that get up to
>level 50 and love their class and its weapons... there are some that will
>never hit level 50 and still love their class. you are the one that has a
>problem, not the class or its weapons.
Because the paladin class is based quite a bit on the idea of holy
swords. Most people, myself included, consider that one of the
strengths of the class, one of the reasons for choosing it. Paladins
are supposed to use equipment blessed by the gods. That's just what
they are, and one of the main reasons people choose to play them.
Twilight
> Sure, there's Soul Leech, but with the insane difficulty of Fear and
>Cazic Thule, fat chance a SK could ever aspire to get one. I want
>respectable Holy Swords.. no more of these half ass ones like Soulfire..
>it's slow, does crappy damage and has CHARGES.. not any kind of
>reasonable effect. Something needs to be done to rectify the complete
>lack of decent (un)holy swords... since our classes are dependent on
>using 2h slashing to deal out major damage, give us something capable of
>doing it already. This is ridiculous. Paladins and Shadowknights now
>get completely out classed because of this. Correct this imbalance.
>
which he worships not innruuk) for the weapon. One day i am expecting
the legendary Fiery Avenger to be put on Mithrinal Marr himself. I can
guarentee every paladin i know will happily kill the god of paladins
for it. Also other than the reaper the sks havent gotten another class
specific weapon. GB isnt anything to laugh at tho. Well in terms of
context vs items in the general non POF zone. Hehe i also use the
mithril like you for my sk. The reaper i look at in dissapointment
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Lawless
yukit...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> OK...for a while it was OK, Ghoulbane looked very promising and it
> didn't disappoint exactly, but at a measly 15 dmg, it gets obsolete
> pretty quickly. Oo...then I picked up a Mithril Two Hander, which I am
> *still* using. What about Soulfire you ask? It sucks... it's a pathetic
> excuse for a holy sword... not *even* worth the time it takes to get it
> now, thankfully I got it before the patch that screwed it up. On the
> other hand, there are TONS of great 1h slashing weapons for the dual
> wielding classes... SSOY comes to mind, EBW is another awesome
> one... then there's the Dragon Claw from fear... However, what takes the
> cake is this B.S. weapon we got off of Vox... the Scimitar of the
> Mistwalker. It summons a pet more powerful than most level 50 tanks with
> the best weapons. Ranger and druid only... Ok, so rangers are set as far
> as weapons...rogues... yeah, bone razor and the gold plated koshigata...
> warriors.. yup. Paladins and SKs have gotten the shaft. Completely
> gyped. Where are the weapons that define our class? That set Paladins
> above the rest? They don't exist.
> Sure, there's Soul Leech, but with the insane difficulty of Fear and
> Cazic Thule, fat chance a SK could ever aspire to get one. I want
> respectable Holy Swords.. no more of these half ass ones like Soulfire..
> it's slow, does crappy damage and has CHARGES.. not any kind of
> reasonable effect. Something needs to be done to rectify the complete
> lack of decent (un)holy swords... since our classes are dependent on
> using 2h slashing to deal out major damage, give us something capable of
> doing it already. This is ridiculous. Paladins and Shadowknights now
> get completely out classed because of this. Correct this imbalance.
>
shelte...@my-deja.com
the Fiery Avenger. So, that being said, and since there has not been
one found yet, who's to say that the Fiery Avenger is a Paladin weapon?
That is ONLY assumed.
In article <37E8296E...@smgfan.com>,
Lawless <law...@smgfan.com> wrote:
> You didn't mention Fiery Avenger
Thierry Brunet
you've never seen either. If you are going to quote something, at least
quote something that's actually in the game and accessible in some
manner. Like PoF stuff is accessible (get-able is another issue) so
that's why the person was comparing to that.
Fiery Avenger does not count and will not count until someone gets it
from a non-GM quest.
Thierry
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Lawless wrote:
>
> You didn't mention Fiery Avenger
>
yukit...@my-deja.com
barely tolerate playing any other class. I happily
have adventured everyday for the last couple months
as a level 50 Paladin, instead of starting over as
some newbie in another class. I am happy with
almost every aspect of the class, although am a bit
jealous of the warrior patch... they have massive
HP and MR now, but hey, whatever, I can live with that.
My problem lies with the fact that holy swords are
supposed to be the mainstay of the class. Holy swords
are supposed to be *the* thing that sets us above the
warrior class, this is what Verant promised. Yet they
have yet to live up to their promise and I am forced
to use a non holy sword in order to deal out damage.
I have at my disposal an awesome weapon, I've never
said otherwise. However, with the weapons that the
dual wielding classes can use, I am out-classed, out
damaged. This is why I cry foul. Paladins are
entitled to holy swords more fiercesome than any
other weapons wielded by the other classes. Yes,
entitled... holy swords are what makes a Paladin
a Paladin. A holy mace just isn't going to cut it,
this ain't AD&D. As far as Fiery Avenger is
concerned, it is a Paladin only weapon, but Aradune
can of course do whatever he wishes with it. However,
there is no way to obtain it at this point, and it
is rumored that it will remain so until the expansion.
Thus, the supposed strongest point of our class has become
a weakness, as the best we get is the crappy Soulfire,
yet we are supposed to be giddy about it. Yay.
Yukitaro Antslayer, KEG GM, The Rathe
In article <dYSF3.130$6Q3.7...@typhoon.stlnet.com>,
"Xenomorph" <xeno...@NOSPAMdarkcastle.com> wrote:
> inane uninformed posting deleted <
DalinJB
No class has really good class specific weapons, or if they do it comes off of
dragons or cazic thule. Just live with it till they add quests.
I'm dual weilding ykeshas at the moment heh
Caric
50 warrior
dstep
> OK...for a while it was OK, Ghoulbane looked very promising and it
>didn't disappoint exactly, but at a measly 15 dmg, it gets obsolete
>pretty quickly.
Ghoulbane is nearly a 2 ratio... the best weapons in the game
are a 2 ratio.. Ghoulbane is a 2 ratio ONE HAND FOR
GOD SAKES, HOW THE HELL WOULD IT GET OBSOLETE????
JUDAS PRIEST!!!!!!
>Oo...then I picked up a Mithril Two Hander, which I am
>*still* using. What about Soulfire you ask? It sucks... it's a pathetic
>excuse for a holy sword... not *even* worth the time it takes to get it
>now, thankfully I got it before the patch that screwed it up. On the
>other hand, there are TONS of great 1h slashing weapons for the dual
>wielding classes...
Closer to one is best:
Ghoulbane [2.27]
Fanged Skull Stiletto [1.83]
Spined Dragon Claw [2.1]
Blood Fire [2.18]
Bone Razor [2.2]
As you can see only 4 one hand weapons are better than ghoulbane.
Okay lets guess how many are found in the plane of fear.. hmm
one mabye? 2 maybe NO THREE OF THEM ARE. I don't know
where fanged skull stilletto is found but I bet its rare as HELL.
Or is it from fear too? in other words, THE GHOULBANE
IS FANTASTIC WAKE THE HELL UP!!!!
Okay lets see what 2 hand weapons are a better ratio than the
ghoulbanes one Hand:
Bladestorm, Katana of Steel Sleet [1.5]
Soul Leech, Dark Sword of Blood [1.5]
Razing Sword of Skarlon [1.6]
Mithril Two-Handed Sword [1.9]
Soulfire [1.96]
Executioner's Axe [2.0]
Staff of Forbidden Runes [2.0]
Axe of Slayers [2.08]
Fleshripper [2.1]
Dark Reaver [2.1]
Withered Totem of Widdershins [2.1]
Man-o-War [2.16]
Warhammer of Divine Grace [2.17]
Gigantic Zweihander [2.17]
Brilliant Sword of Faith [2.2]
Heirophant's Crook [2.2]
Okay you say you are using a mithril tow hander?
SCREW THE HELL OUT OF YOU, YOU HAVE LIKE
THE FOURTH BEST RATIO WEAPON IN THE ENTIRE
GAME . DAMN first you have one of the best ratio one hands
then you have the fourth best ratio weapon in the entire game
with 2 of the better ones coming from the fear plane.
OH I FEEL FREAKING SORRY FOR YOU! OH BETTER
GET SOME MORE HOLY SWORDS!!!!
>Something needs to be done to rectify the complete
>lack of decent (un)holy swords... since our classes are dependent on
>using 2h slashing to deal out major damage, give us something capable of
>doing it already. This is ridiculous. Paladins and Shadowknights now
>get completely out classed because of this. Correct this imbalance.
>
> Yukitaro Antslayer, KEG GM, The Rathe
You could not be MORE WRONG.
DID YOU FAIL MATH? WHAT THE SAM HELL?????
YOU ARE USING THE FOURTH BEST RATIO WEAPON
IN THE WHOLE GOD DANG GAME!!!
I mean the only char I could see having better weapons than
you would be a warrior dual wielding with:
Fanged Skull Stiletto [1.83]
Spined Dragon Claw [2.1]
Blood Fire [2.18]
Bone Razor [2.2]
One of those one hands, as you mention about
the better swords being availible only on fear
though....
ALl but the fanged skull stiletto come from fear!!!
If you throw in a ranger instead of a warrior they could
maybe have:
Scimitar of the Mistwalker [2.5]
Fanged Skull Stiletto [1.83]
And dual wielding possibly do better than the mithril
2 hand in ratio damage but just how likely is it for
someone to have those weapons? One let alone both???
I'm sorry but due to difficulty Im seeing the only real
weapons better than that mithril would be like
A warrior, ranger or rogue dual wielding these:
Short Sword of the Ykesha [3.0]
Runed Falchion [3.09]
And really if you mathematically figure it out
dual wielding those is probably not much better,
if even as good, as you with the mithril 2 hander,
when you take away that they also hit much better.
God you make me sick at my stomach having
SUCH A GOOD WEAPON and complaining, thats
just incredible. I have to go now and vomit.
Gee it just sucks to be you with a 1.9 i guess!!!
For where i got this info go to:
1 hand weapon comarisons:
http://www.gameznet.com/eq/equipment/1hweaponcomparisons.html
2 hand weapon comparisons:
http://www.gameznet.com/eq/equipment/2hweaponcomparisons.html
And figure it out for yourself. Unless you are a super hard headed
goober, you will realize how good you actually have it.
WHOAH judas priest! I just read that the mithril has
a haste effect too??? DAMN SHUT THE HELL UP,
cant this possibly get worse???? YOU ACTUALLY THING
YOU HAVE IT BAD? WHAT THE SAM HELL???
DAMGN!!!!!
D
lin...@gozdnetmail.com
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Suineko
>On Tue, 21 Sep 1999 20:12:06 GMT, yukit...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
>> OK...for a while it was OK, Ghoulbane looked very promising and it
>>didn't disappoint exactly, but at a measly 15 dmg, it gets obsolete
>>pretty quickly.
>
>Ghoulbane is nearly a 2 ratio... the best weapons in the game
>are a 2 ratio.. Ghoulbane is a 2 ratio ONE HAND FOR
>GOD SAKES, HOW THE HELL WOULD IT GET OBSOLETE????
>JUDAS PRIEST!!!!!!
[snippity snip]
>
>And figure it out for yourself. Unless you are a super hard headed
>goober, you will realize how good you actually have it.
>WHOAH judas priest! I just read that the mithril has
>a haste effect too??? DAMN SHUT THE HELL UP,
>cant this possibly get worse???? YOU ACTUALLY THING
>YOU HAVE IT BAD? WHAT THE SAM HELL???
>DAMGN!!!!!
>
>
Heeeee ;)
Funny man ;)
Funny man make Sui laugh ;)
Luv,
Sui Fallenstar, Overpowered Ranger uberclass, level 23 for the
last month (sometimes 24) or two, wielding a PGT and a dragoon
dirk.
I feel special ;)
Roadkill[PCR]
flood of new warrior only weapons for warriors early on. I've got many
options available to me for a new weapon now that my warrior is level 20.
Lanseaux, Lanseaux of the Wolves, whatever it is that those shadow men drop,
there are a couple of axes that I can't remember the names of, etc. I don't
remember all of them, but ClayPigeon was rattling off some stats to me
yesterday, "We could go get this... warrior only. Okay, what about this...
warrior only..." etc. Many more than I ever knew we had available to just
my class. And obtainable about level 20. Most of the paladin only holy
swords are not obtainable until about level 40. Why is it that the thing
that defines the class is only available to them when their career is almost
over? Paladins need more holy swords that are available to them at a much
earlier level. There are some that are available earlier on, but no where
near as many as warriors have.
Xenomorph wrote in message ...
>what imbalance? Paladins get their "holy" swords.. most classes dont even
>get a class specific weapon. (WIZ only? MAG only? ENC only? etc..)
>
>if you dont like your class, PICK ANOTHER..
>
>there has been plenty more peopel than you that play Paladins that get up
to
>level 50 and love their class and its weapons... there are some that will
>never hit level 50 and still love their class. you are the one that has a
>problem, not the class or its weapons.
>
Yappie
thousand or so Ooohs and Ahhhhs you get in Greater Faydark stroke your ego
enough to make up for the lesser amount of damage?
-Yappie-
<yukit...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> OK...for a while it was OK, Ghoulbane looked very promising and it
> didn't disappoint exactly, but at a measly 15 dmg, it gets obsolete
> pretty quickly. Oo...then I picked up a Mithril Two Hander, which I am
Donavan
is wrong" type?
Xenomorph <xeno...@NOSPAMdarkcastle.com> wrote in message
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> what imbalance? Paladins get their "holy" swords.. most classes dont even
> get a class specific weapon. (WIZ only? MAG only? ENC only? etc..)
>
> if you dont like your class, PICK ANOTHER..
>
> there has been plenty more peopel than you that play Paladins that get up
to
> level 50 and love their class and its weapons... there are some that will
> never hit level 50 and still love their class. you are the one that has a
> problem, not the class or its weapons.
>
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>
Wwen Delian
>Fanged skull stiletto is in the game. Koraf on veeshan has one.
He got it from a GM event, that doesn't count.
Brandon Mills
Wwen Delian wrote:
> >
> >Fanged skull stiletto is in the game. Koraf on veeshan has one.
>
> He got it from a GM event, that doesn't count.
Anyone else notice Veeshan seems to be where all the cool shit happens?
My server ( Rathe ) is usually covered with lame GM quests.
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Brad does play a Ranger, but he hasnt given out his name.. His Paladin he
plays for server event's name is Aradune..
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<shelte...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> Not sure if you know...BUT Aradune is a Ranger...Aradune is wielding
> the Fiery Avenger. So, that being said, and since there has not been
> one found yet, who's to say that the Fiery Avenger is a Paladin weapon?
> That is ONLY assumed.
>
>
> In article <37E8296E...@smgfan.com>,
> Lawless <law...@smgfan.com> wrote:
> > You didn't mention Fiery Avenger
>
>
Wwen Delian
>plays for server event's name is Aradune..
Aradune is a ranger.
Wwen Delian
>My server ( Rathe ) is usually covered with lame GM quests.
The Innoruuk server never has anything happen. Our head GM has no imagination
or initiative. On another server someone got a title for helping kill a dragon
but on Innoruuk Thulaak (level 50 warrior) planned for hours, got everyone
organized, went and killed Nag. What'd he get, a crappy broadcast, whoopdy doo.
On Veeshen when they first killed Vox, Aradune was there to help with his fiery
avenger, then they passed out half a dozen great items. I haven't heard of this
happening anywhere else. Verant hire some GMs with a bit more fire, ones that
are interested in interracting with the players and making things more
enjoyable. I understand there are problems to do deal with, then hire MORE GMs
who's only job is to organize events. We need events every day on each server.
I don't see why not. We can only dream.
Carsten Locke
he's got Verdant armor.....i think he can wear and weild just about anything
he wants...all he's gotta do is program it =P
Wwen Delian wrote in message
<19990922133709...@ng-cj1.aol.com>...
Carsten Locke
i'm a druid...i know of only 1 druid specific weapon...it's not in the
game....on the test server now...so finally we'll get it....maybe
the oaken scimitar
now druids dont really melee...ok..they dont melee...but i have a rogue
too...and there are basically no weapons for my rogue....serated bone dirk?
too hard to get until about 40...unless you want to buy it with all your
money at about 25...i'm still duel weilding a bloodclaw and a dragoon
dirk...both pretty sucky weapons...
paladins have the most class specific weapons of any class...ghoulbane,
soulfire, feiry avenger (i'm pretty sure it's pal only...but if not...who
knows), there's a pal only 2h warhammer in rathe mountains....these are the
only ones i know of...but that's still more than any class....my pal friend
loves her weapons...she's not complaining..why are you?
Starhawk
DalinJB
FIRST TIME on any server. It wasnt an "event." Aradune just decided to tag
along cause Veeshan was making history =)
John Henders
Actually he tagged along to see how you did it so he could make sure
they nerfed it enough that no one else could do it again.
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>>Anyone else notice Veeshan seems to be where all the cool shit happens?
>>My server ( Rathe ) is usually covered with lame GM quests.
>The Innoruuk server never has anything happen. Our head GM has no imagination
>or initiative.
In case some people don't know, server GM's, including the lead GM's,
also have to man the phones for tech support at Verant, supporting all
their games. They only GM after their phone support shift is over, which
is why official GM hours are so short and start so late. If you've ever
worked a phone support in the computer industry, you may have some idea
of why most GM quests involve killing massive numbers of users.
DalinJB
>they nerfed it enough that no one else could do it again.
We just killed vox again last saturday
Wwen Delian
Vox was unkillable for a long long time after Veeshen killed her. She would
suicide as she neared death. Every single time. Just recently she's been fixed
and dies normally.
yukit...@my-deja.com
Great, you can grab some numbers from eqlizer that "tell"
you what the better weapon is. However, the fact is that
even with my mithril two hander, I am routinely getting
outdamaged by the other melee classes. I didn't get my
Ghoulbane until level 38, my mithril until almost level 50,
so a rogue not being able to get a SBD until 40 doesn't
exactly break my heart here. I am complaining about the
lack of Holy Swords because they are *supposed* to be the
defining feature of Paladin class, something that sets us
above the other classes. So why am I not using a Holy
Sword? Because the existing ones are underpowered due to
the fact that 1) we can only use Ghoulbane and no other 1h
slashing, and 2) there are only 2 existing 2h holy swords,
and they both lag. I want a Holy Sword worthy of the name,
specifically something better than the Mithril Two Hander.
Why? Because I WANT to be able to use a Holy Sword and be
able to grin at the damage. Not wonder why I'm missing
so much with the damn Soulfire.
Yukitaro Antslayer, KEG GM, The Rathe
In article <7sb4cd$i9i$1...@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>,
"Carsten Locke" <hel...@earthling.net> wrote:
> loves her weapons...she's not complaining..why are you?
John Henders
Actually I was referring to the mega nerf that came out the week after
Veeshan killed her, where tons of giant ice spiders, polar bears and ice
wolves wreaked havoc on the whole zone until they finally fixed the
pathing bugs (and nerfed Vox so she suicided every time you killed her
guards). If that patch wasn't the most mean spirited "revenge" patch, I
can't think of a better one. Oh, wait, the latest PoF patches were like
that too. Nevermind. :)
zeke
John Henders wrote:
<snip>
>
> In case some people don't know, server GM's, including the lead GM's,
> also have to man the phones for tech support at Verant, supporting all
> their games. They only GM after their phone support shift is over, which
> is why official GM hours are so short and start so late. If you've ever
> worked a phone support in the computer industry, you may have some idea
> of why most GM quests involve killing massive numbers of users.
>
<snip>
Hahahah AMEN, I wish I could take some frustration out on the endless
line of morons... err customers that I support every day.
Zeke
W. Benjamin Fletcher
wrote:
>
>
>Wwen Delian wrote:
>
>> >
>> >Fanged skull stiletto is in the game. Koraf on veeshan has one.
>>
>> He got it from a GM event, that doesn't count.
>
>Anyone else notice Veeshan seems to be where all the cool shit happens?
>My server ( Rathe ) is usually covered with lame GM quests.
>
Umm... very RARELY something happens on Veeshan....
If something *does* happen, it's usually a wedding, or a bazaar, or
something. Note above, I didn't say never, just rarely. Seems like the
other servers get more events for some reason..
Ben
guess away
is a function of the str bonuses and crit hits. Mithril 2 hander is
actually better than 2.1 given the permanent haste effect. It is hands
down one of the best weapons in the game. Get yourself some str items
and watch your damage skyrocket. This works for all melee classes.
Ken Andrews
<hel...@earthling.net> wrote:
>money at about 25...i'm still duel weilding a bloodclaw and a dragoon
>dirk...both pretty sucky weapons...
My Rogue will gladly take them off your hands if you don't like them.
>paladins have the most class specific weapons of any class...ghoulbane,
>soulfire, feiry avenger (i'm pretty sure it's pal only...but if not...who
>knows), there's a pal only 2h warhammer in rathe mountains....these are the
>only ones i know of...but that's still more than any class....my pal friend
>loves her weapons...she's not complaining..why are you?
Ah! Useful bit of info here. I didn't know there were 3 Holy weapons
available. I thought there were only 2; Soulfire and the Fiery
Avenger. Now I have another weapon to aspire to. Unfortunately, I'm
too high level (14) to go after Soulfire. But, I might still have a
chance at Fiery Avenger, and now the 2H Warhammer.
3 Holy weapons for Paladins isn't really all that many, though. I
will admit, Shadow Knights do seem to have it worse. They apparently
only have 1 they can go after.
Gordon Jackson
>i personnaly find it amusing that my SK has to kill the god of fear (
>which he worships not innruuk) for the weapon. One day i am expecting
>the legendary Fiery Avenger to be put on Mithrinal Marr himself. I can
>guarentee every paladin i know will happily kill the god of paladins
>for it. Also other than the reaper the sks havent gotten another class
>specific weapon. GB isnt anything to laugh at tho. Well in terms of
>context vs items in the general non POF zone. Hehe i also use the
>mithril like you for my sk. The reaper i look at in dissapointment
>
Simple, just reverse them, the ultimate quest from your god, go and kill his
opposition as he hold in his possession a (un)holy weapon which is rightfully
theirs.
Galeniel
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with a FBSS consistently outmelees me. The shorter delay weapons are
definitely preferable, and it takes no time at all for a warrior to
dish out more damage than me. Get some str items? I have an almost
complete suit of Valorium from fear. Currently I am at +73 above my
base STR. Yes, to repeat, I love my mithril two hander. Yes, I deal
out a lot of damage with it. However, it's less than a warrior of
my same level (50) with their (also) non class specific weapons.
AGAIN, I am a Paladin. I want a Holy Sword to wield. I don't want
to be forced to use a non Holy Sword because it is a vastly superior
weapon. The complete shortage of two handed weapons in the game (high
level ones) is reflected in the lack of two handed holy swords as well.
We have two available to us, and one is a token holy sword, used in
the completion of the Soulfire quest (It used to be better than
Soulfire, for probably the first two months of retail). I'm annoyed
that the best weapon available to me is not a Holy Sword.
Yukitaro Antslayer, KEG GM, The Rathe
In article <37eb6974...@news1.newscene.com>,
n...@here.org (guess away) wrote:
> No, the numbers are not misleading. Any differences you are seeing now
> is a function of the str bonuses and crit hits. Mithril 2 hander is
> actually better than 2.1 given the permanent haste effect. It is hands
> down one of the best weapons in the game. Get yourself some str items
> and watch your damage skyrocket. This works for all melee classes.
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Greg Pola
Ken Andrews wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Sep 1999 12:35:43 -0500, "Carsten Locke"
> <hel...@earthling.net> wrote:
>
> >paladins have the most class specific weapons of any class...ghoulbane,
> >soulfire, feiry avenger (i'm pretty sure it's pal only...but if not...who
> >knows), there's a pal only 2h warhammer in rathe mountains....these are the
> >only ones i know of...but that's still more than any class....my pal friend
> >loves her weapons...she's not complaining..why are you?
Actually not even close. The Warrior class has far and away the most class
specific weapons:
Avenger Battle Axe
Langseax of the Wolves
Langseax
Executioners Axe
All the Shadowed Weapons (around 8 or so)
Painbringer
Blood Fire
BladeStorm
along with several Warrior & Shadow Knight only weapons...
Noslom
>
>Actually not even close. The Warrior class has far and away the most class
>specific weapons:
>
>Avenger Battle Axe
>Langseax of the Wolves
>Langseax
>Executioners Axe
>All the Shadowed Weapons (around 8 or so)
No, this is wrong. These weapons cannot be equiped by players. Thier
sole purpose seems to be to let summoned monsters have weapons
that can be disarrmed without equiping them with real weapons.
Same thing with enchanter pets now, they have animated sword and shield.
>Painbringer
>Blood Fire
>BladeStorm
>
>along with several Warrior & Shadow Knight only weapons...
Noslom