I'm a 7th lvl enchanter and it fucking sucks to be me.
Alex
Man am I pissed off! SHIT SHIT SHIT arrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhh SHIT!!!!!!!!!
I have spent the last 4 days at 10 hours a day trying to get to more
experience. But I'm still on the first bubble!
I've solo'd, I've grouped with 2 and with 5. Makes no damn difference! for
every 2 fight I win I lose 1 and this is fighting blues only. Seems like the
game always waits till I'm ahead and sends something to kill me. I'm not a
dumb guy, what the hell is going on! Is this a game intended on pissing
people off or entertainment. SHIT!
I'm in surefall fighting bears wolfs and in bb fighting gnolls.
I haven't bought any animation spell because it requires those damn tiny
daggers and there not available in Quenos. So I don't know how well they
work.
I hear people saying the enchanter class is fucked up and that druids and
bards can level up twice as fast. I bet that is true.
I'm done ranting thank you
PS I think I will try my luck entertaining children with my spells, I may
stand a better chance.
--
Alika 7th lvl Enchanter, Qeynos city, Innoruuk svr.
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Ferror
in 2 days. But i team up with lots of people and fight stuff that cons
yellow to me. Just today i'm almost at 12.
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Josiah Fizer
for me thus far. I'll try and adress your gripes one at a time.
I've been able to solo Gnolls for the last two levels. I'm now 7th and well on
my way to 8th. Experance has been very easy to get as most mobs have been unable
to hit me thanks to my having two shield spells + other buffer and debuffer
spells in effect. Whats more the continual damage spell we Enchanters get at
forth is very nice in combat. It iwll do 10 points instant damage and then about
7 every four seconds untill it wears off.
As for the animation spells. They are very nice and will swing a fight your way
without too much trouble. To get the daggers just hop on the boat and go to
Erudin, should take all of 20 minuts to get there, buy the daggers and then gate
back.
I think the problem is that people dont want to have to learn how a class works.
The Enchanter class has been very good to me thus far and I look forward to
making magic items next level.
Marshall Kennedy
read, and playing one myself, Enchanters are there pretty much to buff
group members and debuff enemies. They are pretty invovled class and
definitely one of the more challenging (if not interesting). Why don't
you give another class a shot for awhile? I've had this game since it
first came out and have spent more time experimenting with race/class
combos and just exploring the game then worrying about powergaming, or
being the highest level. I'd recommend taking a look at
http://gameznet.com/eq/pickingbestclass.html. It provides a really
good synopsis of the different classes. All classes have their
strengths and weaknesses and if you are like me, the grass always
seems greener on the other side. Feel free to e-mail me if you want
some personal opinions on some of the classes.
Stephen Tsai
Alex <REMOVE...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
>I'm a 7th lvl enchanter and it fucking sucks to be me.
>
>Man am I pissed off! SHIT SHIT SHIT arrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhh SHIT!!!!!!!!!
I do sympathize. The Enchanter is a long, slow, painful climb.
I'll try and address some of your issues (I'm 12th lvl FWIW)
>I've solo'd, I've grouped with 2 and with 5. Makes no damn difference! for
>every 2 fight I win I lose 1 and this is fighting blues only. Seems like the
>game always waits till I'm ahead and sends something to kill me. I'm not a
>dumb guy, what the hell is going on! Is this a game intended on pissing
>people off or entertainment. SHIT!
>I'm in surefall fighting bears wolfs and in bb fighting gnolls.
That's about right.
>I haven't bought any animation spell because it requires those damn tiny
>daggers and there not available in Quenos. So I don't know how well they
>work.
Tiny Daggers are an absolute must. And they can be gotten
via a short boat ride into Erudin. The merchant in the
Craftmasters guild will sell them for 1s1c each.
>I hear people saying the enchanter class is fucked up and that druids and
>bards can level up twice as fast. I bet that is true.
They are screwed up in that our spell resist rates
are exceedingly high verses the lvl MOB; all our spells
are either totally resisted or not resisted at all
(usually the former).
Stephen Tsai aka Caeeorny of Karana
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Alex
am back for more punishment.
why is it that lvl 1-6 took say, 10 hours a lvl and lvl 7 has taken 40 hours
and im still on the first buble.
I guess im gonna be the debuffer buffer for a large party wow, gee maybe i
can hold there weapons too.
I know i'm being a sour puss, I'm sorry. I was having so much fun till I
reach lvl 7. it like the game just got 500 times harder for me.
Is there anybody out there that is tying to solo at lvl 7?
the blues dont seem to give me any exp. shit when i gave the gnolls tooth to
the captan of the guard it said I gained exeperance but i looked and I still
saw no change, then I got 8 more fangs from a friend (one at a time) each
time it said I gained expereance.... nope nothing.
it looks to me that i whould have to kill min of 100 blues before I can
level up to 8. Plus if i die it's like i lost 3 kills.
does this seem right? is this fun?
here is my attact from begining to end. (SOLO)
fighting blues
step 1: do the buff's on me first that the craping minor shielding,
strengthen, and haze.
step 2: i go to bb stay on top or down to the first tear, or bears near
surfall glade.
step 3: hit them with suffocating sphere over and over untill there dead.
step 4: give myself a minor illusion and meditate my mana back (all gone)
I used to do this (and still do on the biger fights)
1: meserize
2: tashan
3: enfeeble
4: suffocating sphere till there dead.
then after im all done, somebody sneaks up and kills me wether im invisable
or a illusion. but it doesnt fail. kill two blues get killed repeat. oh and
they just drop out of the sky to kill me too.
--
Alika 7th (now and forever )lvl Enchanter, Qeynos city, Innoruuk svr.
Alex
it's call mega taunt.
As soon as we blast with an offensive spell, the MOB wont look at the tanks
anymore they want enchanter blood.
and with our limited wardrobe and AC / HP I'm what is know as a minute
steak.
But I wont give up for now, gonna try and stick it out. but if I don't see
lvl 7.5 (I'm 7.1) by Wednesday I may give up.
Just wondering... if it takes me 1 week at 10 hours a day to get from 7 to
8, how long with it be till I reach 12th?
I have a sneaking suspicion the game was easier for enchanters then, than it
is now, who knows.
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Guardian23 <Ri...@homenospam.com> wrote in message
news:gkxX2.8022$KU6....@news.rdc2.occa.home.com...
> Just to give you some good news to look forward to.
>
> I was running around in the Karanas and my friend and I decided to hit a
> griffawn. It was blue to us, but "high" blue. Well, it proceeded to
whack
> him hard enough to make him have to zone (we were right next to the zone
> line) and I tried to beat on it just to see how close I could get before I
> had to zone also. I was 18th lvl or so and my friend was a couple of lvls
> higher than me. (He is a bard, I am a Cleric) We have good equipment, and
I
> have some ok offensive spells, but I was still getting my butt handed to
me
> really fast. Along comes a 15th lvl Enchanter and starts casting things
on
> the griffawn that just totally screwed his day over. He was so messed up,
> he could not even lay a talon on me, and I was able to finish it off
easily.
> I would have NEVER have been able to beat it without the enchanters help,
> and it did not even take that many spells for her to keep it at bay.
These
> were not damaging spells that everyone really likes so much, they were
> spells that disoriented the thing.
>
>
> Hang in there and keep at it, I think the Enchanter class can be the most
> fun class to play, and at the same time has some pretty nice spells to
just
> screw with the creatures mind.
>
> I would suggest trying to make sure that you don't get in the front ranks
> "too" much to keep from getting clobbered, (you didn't say if the entire
> party was wiped out the times when you died) If they are, you are fighting
> too tough a creature. As far as the "instadeath" creatures out there,
> (once you know what to look for in an area) once you start fighting,
switch
> to a wide angle view so you can look all around while fighting.
>
>
Silverlock
<REMOVE...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
No question about it 7th is one of the hardest levels for enchanters.
How are you fighting? DO you start your solos with mesmerize?? Do you
enfeeble and tashan while they are mesed, then SuffSphere them to get
them to attack you? Why don't you have a pet? Its only a short boat
ride to Erud. If your afraid to go there for the tiny daggers your
going to have real problems when you get to 8th and realize the only
place to get the level 8 animation is in Highhold keep.
>I'm a 7th lvl enchanter and it fucking sucks to be me.
>
>Man am I pissed off! SHIT SHIT SHIT arrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhh SHIT!!!!!!!!!
>
>I have spent the last 4 days at 10 hours a day trying to get to more
>experience. But I'm still on the first bubble!
>
>I've solo'd, I've grouped with 2 and with 5. Makes no damn difference! for
>every 2 fight I win I lose 1 and this is fighting blues only. Seems like the
>game always waits till I'm ahead and sends something to kill me. I'm not a
>dumb guy, what the hell is going on! Is this a game intended on pissing
>people off or entertainment. SHIT!
>I'm in surefall fighting bears wolfs and in bb fighting gnolls.
>
>I haven't bought any animation spell because it requires those damn tiny
>daggers and there not available in Quenos. So I don't know how well they
>work.
>
>I hear people saying the enchanter class is fucked up and that druids and
>bards can level up twice as fast. I bet that is true.
>
>
Guardian23
Jeff K.
Alex wrote in message <372e7...@news.hawaii.rr.com>...
>Ok, after one hour of crashing the boat took me to eudin, got my daggers
and
>am back for more punishment.
>
>why is it that lvl 1-6 took say, 10 hours a lvl and lvl 7 has taken 40
hours
>and im still on the first buble.
>
Level 7 is a killer for all magic users I believe. I'm a 7th level
magician, and trust me it's no picnic either. My 4th level spells, which
had been such a boon when I first got them, are now conspicuously
underpowered when compared to critters that give me decent exp. My pet is no
longer strong enough to hold the monsters at bay while I stand back and
cast - I have to take the hits to keep IT alive so it can keep fighting, and
they still die a lot more than they used to. I didn't get any new defensive
spells to help me survive this, and my lack of earlier combat means I
actually had to spend some of my training points on 2-H blunt so I can hit
things with my staff.
Once I get to level 8 though.... boy will things change. My best damage
spell will do better than 30 points of damage, significantly more than most
of the warriors I travel with. I get the next set of pets, who will
hopefully be tough enough to tank for me for a level or two. I'll get my new
shielding spell, plus a nifty damage shield. I'll be able to turn invisible.
Looking at the enchanter's spell list, you'll get root, which is always a
nice spell to have.You get your new pet of course, a better shielding spell,
Chaotic Feedback which does very nice damage indeed (almost as much as a
wizard spell of the same level) plus can stun your opponent, soothe and
alliance to help you avoid battles when you want, plus all of your nifty
illusions.
The transition from 7 to 8 seems to be the biggie. It's when magic users
stop being second class adventurers and become forces to be reckoned with.
So, accordingly, it's a tough one. It seperates the wheat from the chaff. We
get a lot of power later on, so it's only right that at some point we have
to work a little harder to earn it.
Jeff K.
Nystramo & Co. on Cazic-Thule
Daniel Thomas
enchanters survivability. My enchanter is on Feydwer so I can't help with
the tiny daggers. I'm surprised the enchanters guild wouldn't have a
merchant selling them though.
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In article <372df...@news.hawaii.rr.com>, "Alex"
<REMOVE...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
>I'm a 7th lvl enchanter and it fucking sucks to be me.
>
>Man am I pissed off! SHIT SHIT SHIT arrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhh SHIT!!!!!!!!!
>
>I have spent the last 4 days at 10 hours a day trying to get to more
>experience. But I'm still on the first bubble!
>
>I've solo'd, I've grouped with 2 and with 5. Makes no damn difference! for
>every 2 fight I win I lose 1 and this is fighting blues only. Seems like the
>game always waits till I'm ahead and sends something to kill me. I'm not a
>dumb guy, what the hell is going on! Is this a game intended on pissing
>people off or entertainment. SHIT!
>I'm in surefall fighting bears wolfs and in bb fighting gnolls.
>
>I haven't bought any animation spell because it requires those damn tiny
>daggers and there not available in Quenos. So I don't know how well they
>work.
>
>I hear people saying the enchanter class is fucked up and that druids and
>bards can level up twice as fast. I bet that is true.
>
>
>I'm done ranting thank you
>
>
>PS I think I will try my luck entertaining children with my spells, I may
>stand a better chance.
>
>
>
>--
>Alika 7th lvl Enchanter, Qeynos city, Innoruuk svr.
Matrixgold
>PS I think I will try my luck entertaining children with my spells, I may
>stand a better chance.
aahaha, thanks for making me laugh anyway, hehe
m.m. ubbink
8th level enchanter and kill lions picking my teeth, while my mircyls pet
clobbers the lion to death. By the way, what weapon do u use? I was stupid
enough to only work on my piercing skill, so i totall y neglected the blunt
skills, which are pretty much useless now, because i wont get any skill gain
when fighting greens, and blues are just too dangerous now, when i have a
staff in my hand, because i do no damage.. anyway, if your a piercing guy,
you probably got the giant snake fang alreaydy as a pirecer, if not, get it
immediately from a player, will cost you 1 plat, does 12 damage easily, lots
of times, fast, if you hav high skill.
And di i tell you to get those daggers?
And about haze: i also play a cleric, and boy do i miss that haze spell, the
monsters just seem to keep missing you...
Greetings, helios 8t level enchanter.
Alex heeft geschreven in bericht <372df...@news.hawaii.rr.com>...
>I'm a 7th lvl enchanter and it fucking sucks to be me.
>
>Man am I pissed off! SHIT SHIT SHIT arrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhh SHIT!!!!!!!!!
>
>I have spent the last 4 days at 10 hours a day trying to get to more
>experience. But I'm still on the first bubble!
>
>I've solo'd, I've grouped with 2 and with 5. Makes no damn difference! for
>every 2 fight I win I lose 1 and this is fighting blues only. Seems like
the
>game always waits till I'm ahead and sends something to kill me. I'm not a
>dumb guy, what the hell is going on! Is this a game intended on pissing
>people off or entertainment. SHIT!
>I'm in surefall fighting bears wolfs and in bb fighting gnolls.
>
>I haven't bought any animation spell because it requires those damn tiny
>daggers and there not available in Quenos. So I don't know how well they
>work.
>
>I hear people saying the enchanter class is fucked up and that druids and
>bards can level up twice as fast. I bet that is true.
>
>
>I'm done ranting thank you
>
>
>PS I think I will try my luck entertaining children with my spells, I may
>stand a better chance.
>
>
>
Richard Klein
having WAY more fun than I had with either my DE Necro or my Human Warrior, and
I have gotten to level 8 by soloing almost exclusively (grouped once and killed
2 centurions, that was it.)
The ButcherBlock mountains have been a fantastic hunting ground so far.
There are a good variety of monsters there and most of the insta-kill ones leave
me alone (emerald drakes, lowland basilisks, krag elders). They will run right
by me when I am in the middle of a fight and just ignore me (I dont know if they
are simply not as aggressive as other creatures like griffins or giants, or if
there is some faction involved with some or all of them) Of course the Goblin
Wizards and Shamans are another story, but they seem to stay mostly at their
camps unless someone trains them.
So far it has been a predominantly safe area (I have died only once since
lvl5, that being when 2 dwarf skeletons decided to help out their buddy I was
pounding on, and kept stunning me so I couldn't run away) A lot of the creatures
give good loot (skunk scent gland = 2gp, spider venom sac = 5gp, spider silk =
2gp, various goblin equipment). In a two hour window I can almost always make
~10 platinum (don't know how that compares to others, but it has been sufficient
so far). I had enough stashed in the bank to buy all my lvl8 spells (well minus
Enchant Silver and the lvl8 Animation spell, I haven't got those yet, but I do
have the cash) and are now using the extra to work on my jewelcrafting.
Its all in finding the right area, and experimenting with the many different
spells you get. Use Tashan often, it really makes a difference in how often
your spells are resisted. And getting Gate and Invisibility at lvl4 help make
the Enchanter a safe, if not good soloer at low levels. It's certainly not the
class for anyone with even mild tank inclinations, and requires creative and
efficient spellcasting. And, IMHO, you NEED your pet, especially if you are
soloing. Having it slash for a consistent extra 10-12 points of damage is
invaluable.
Vendril - lvl8 Enchanter, Karana
Stephen Tsai
Alex <REMOVE...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
>Ok, after one hour of crashing the boat took me to eudin, got my daggers and
>am back for more punishment.
If you have the infamous boat-crash bug, that's a different
issue than being an enchanter.
>why is it that lvl 1-6 took say, 10 hours a lvl and lvl 7 has taken 40 hours
>and im still on the first buble.
7 is tough because it's right at the cusp before
hitting a new bracket of spells. Trust me when I say
that you'll be very happy when you hit 8th. The
same phenomenon will occur when you're 10-11th.
>I guess im gonna be the debuffer buffer for a large party wow, gee maybe i
>can hold there weapons too.
Even though you don't feel you're helping, grouping
is still the best way. Safer for you and groups in general
are more aggressive at going after larger and more frequent
game. If you have a good group, you'll get back more xp than
you'll ever "lose" from not going solo.
>Is there anybody out there that is tying to solo at lvl 7?
Don't even try. EQ as a whole is balanced for group play;
soloists either have to be exceedingly conservative or they
end up dead. Some classes do have an easier time than others
at soloing (Druids, Bards, Shamans, Shadowknights), but
you are not one of them.
Again, group, group, group. That's the way Enchanters
make it up the ladder.
>the blues dont seem to give me any exp. shit when i gave the gnolls tooth to
>the captan of the guard it said I gained exeperance but i looked and I still
>saw no change, then I got 8 more fangs from a friend (one at a time) each
>time it said I gained expereance.... nope nothing.
Blues do give you xp and that's the way to go if you
insist on soloing. They don't give lots of xp, but
slow and steady is the only way. Whites and above should
only be tried if you're near a zone border (and only
rarely).
If you are in a group, buff your group and go after
whites and yellows. A lot of your spells will be resisted
(my main gripe against my chosen class), but your
party will still have your buffs.
As for gnolls teeth, that's a low lvl quest and won't
give xp at that point. It does give decent money
and faction adjustment so keep doing it.
>it looks to me that i whould have to kill min of 100 blues before I can
>level up to 8. Plus if i die it's like i lost 3 kills.
>
>does this seem right? is this fun?
That's about right. Keep at it.
>here is my attact from begining to end. (SOLO)
>
>fighting blues
>
>step 1: do the buff's on me first that the craping minor shielding,
>strengthen, and haze.
Good so far. When you hit 8th, you'll change to Lesser Shielding.
When you hit 12th, you'll change to Mist.
>step 2: i go to bb stay on top or down to the first tear, or bears near
>surfall glade.
Beware of bears. Cros and Holly will KOS you if you are
attacking (or being attacked by) bears/wolves. Frankly I
just don't hunt there anymore. Not worth the grief.
(but one day, those two will be made to feel my pain!)
>step 3: hit them with suffocating sphere over and over untill there dead.
Suggest you mix in the 1st lvl DD spell with it (forgot it's name).
It's not as strong, but costs less mana. You can cast it during
the gap of time when you're recovering from casting Sphere.
When you hit 8th, you'll replace the 1st lvl spell with
Chaotic Feedback.
I assume you're hitting it with your weapon as well.
Helps keep your mana costs down.
>step 4: give myself a minor illusion and meditate my mana back (all gone)
Fine.
One big addition I would add is Pendril's Animation
(I don't know if they ever got around to fixing Juli's).
Animations can't be given orders (my other big gripe)
but in general, animations will attack whichever MOB is
attacking you. They never miss, do a quick and easy
5-10 pts per strike. Not as much as a dedicated fighter,
but certainly does add up. Pendril's main weakness
is that it has few hit points but that isn't an issue
if the MOB is attacking you.
When you hit 8th, replace it with Mithryl's Animation.
>I used to do this (and still do on the biger fights)
>
>1: meserize
>2: tashan
>3: enfeeble
>4: suffocating sphere till there dead.
>
>then after im all done, somebody sneaks up and kills me wether im invisable
>or a illusion. but it doesnt fail. kill two blues get killed repeat. oh and
>they just drop out of the sky to kill me too.
Avoid "bigger" fights unless you're near a zone border or are
surrounded with other PCs who can help you out if things
get nasty, especially if you insist on soloing.
Pete
it..Take your time, this is not a race, you will get there..I am alevel 14
paladin and I can't believe how hard it was to get to this point..Here is
one tip I can give you that I have learned..When you just reach a new level,
don't take any risks untill you get at least 1/2 bubble into the new
level..If you get killed and lose your new level, it takes forever to get
that level back...good luck & stick with it....vgeman
Alex wrote in message <372df...@news.hawaii.rr.com>...
K. Laisathit
>
>They are screwed up in that our spell resist rates
>are exceedingly high verses the lvl MOB; all our spells
>are either totally resisted or not resisted at all
>(usually the former).
I'm not sure that's a fair statement. Enchanters' spells work
against monsters' magic resistance. Verant intentionally jacks
up MR to prevent monsters from being rooted every time. The
collateral effect of this decision on Enchanters have been
corrected somewhat by the introduction of Tashan.
Later...
Stephen Tsai
Irrelevant. Tashan itself is almost always resisted
by yellows and red, hence useless against high-powered
MOBs that large groups will tend to want to go after.
Even if it does work, the amount of resistance lowered
isn't that much (maybe 5%).
I don't care about the whys Verant jacking up
the MOBs MR; the consequence of that is that Enchanters
are basically useless against high lvl MOBs whereas
other spell casters (who go against fire, ice, etc)
can at least do partial damage against the same MOBs.
Even more embarrasing, even green MOBs end up resisting
enchanter spells a disturbing amount of the time
(roughly 30-40% or so). These are the creatures that
are supposed to be "easy kills" and they are to every
other class but Enchanters.
Now I've heard rumors that they are adding a higher lvl
line of spells based on Tashan (Tashana is supposed
to be a 16th or 20th lvl spell). If so, then this
might correct some of the drawbacks.
Silverlock
<REMOVE...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
>Ok, after one hour of crashing the boat took me to eudin, got my daggers and
>am back for more punishment.
>
>why is it that lvl 1-6 took say, 10 hours a lvl and lvl 7 has taken 40 hours
>and im still on the first buble.
>
>I guess im gonna be the debuffer buffer for a large party wow, gee maybe i
>can hold there weapons too.
That's the role Enchanters play. If your not interested in being
primarily a support class who debuffs and buffs with occasional nukes
then STOP NOW because that's what Enchanters are. If you want to Nuke
that's what wizards do, if you want to heal that's what clerics do, or
you could be a Druid or Shaman and do it all. ;-)
I too wish that the Enchanting portion of Enchanters was more there.
It is currently practically non-existant. We get the same 5-6 spells
over and over basically. Where are the location or item enchantments?
Where are the debuffs? I have a few but I want more!!!! I'm greedy
hehe.
>I know i'm being a sour puss, I'm sorry. I was having so much fun till I
>reach lvl 7. it like the game just got 500 times harder for me.
>
>Is there anybody out there that is tying to solo at lvl 7?
>
>the blues dont seem to give me any exp. shit when i gave the gnolls tooth to
>the captan of the guard it said I gained exeperance but i looked and I still
>saw no change, then I got 8 more fangs from a friend (one at a time) each
>time it said I gained expereance.... nope nothing.
>
>it looks to me that i whould have to kill min of 100 blues before I can
>level up to 8. Plus if i die it's like i lost 3 kills.
>
>does this seem right? is this fun?
>
>here is my attact from begining to end. (SOLO)
>
>fighting blues
>
>step 1: do the buff's on me first that the craping minor shielding,
>strengthen, and haze.
>
>step 2: i go to bb stay on top or down to the first tear, or bears near
>surfall glade.
>
>step 3: hit them with suffocating sphere over and over untill there dead.
>
>step 4: give myself a minor illusion and meditate my mana back (all gone)
>
>I used to do this (and still do on the biger fights)
>
>1: meserize
>2: tashan
>3: enfeeble
>4: suffocating sphere till there dead.
>
>then after im all done, somebody sneaks up and kills me wether im invisable
>or a illusion. but it doesnt fail. kill two blues get killed repeat. oh and
>they just drop out of the sky to kill me too.
Like I said & is tough. It took me longer to do 7 then to go from 1-6.
At 7 things get better, you get a new DD spell (although you will suck
at it at first because it is the first enchanter spell that uses
evocation so naturally you will have a zero in that skill to start) we
get a new animation which we can get yellows from. Still the level to
make is level 12. At level 12 we start getting our first good debuffs
Whirl and Languid, plus another DOT spell, plus some nice utility
spells like enduring breath to breath underwater or not at all as the
case is, and serpent sight which gives infravision to humans.
There are definitely tough spots for each class, level 7 is the bad
one for most casters.
Silverlock
<REMOVE...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
>Us enchanters have a not well know skill built in to most of our spells,
>it's call mega taunt.
>
>As soon as we blast with an offensive spell, the MOB wont look at the tanks
>anymore they want enchanter blood.
>
>and with our limited wardrobe and AC / HP I'm what is know as a minute
>steak.
>
>But I wont give up for now, gonna try and stick it out. but if I don't see
>lvl 7.5 (I'm 7.1) by Wednesday I may give up.
>
>Just wondering... if it takes me 1 week at 10 hours a day to get from 7 to
>8, how long with it be till I reach 12th?
Not that long at all. With a yellow pet by your side you will soar
through level 8 easily and probably through 9 as well. 10 and 11 will
be slower but still not as hard as 7.
>
>I have a sneaking suspicion the game was easier for enchanters then, than it
>is now, who knows.
Actually the reverse. At start of phase 4 beta we had no pets, no
illusions, no tashan, etc. We are the last class to be done and are
still being worked on. In fact we are due to get a speed up to our
casting times and tashan is getting a boost too. Hopefully our actual
enchanting spells will soon be more numerous or actually functional as
well.
Alex
Thanks Jeff
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Jeff K. <jk...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> Alex wrote in message <372e7...@news.hawaii.rr.com>...
> >Ok, after one hour of crashing the boat took me to eudin, got my daggers
> and
> >am back for more punishment.
> >
> >why is it that lvl 1-6 took say, 10 hours a lvl and lvl 7 has taken 40
> hours
> >and im still on the first buble.
> >
>
>
Alex
available.
What do you recommend?
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m.m. ubbink <mm.u...@wxs.nl> wrote in message
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> Stick to it Alex, and get those tiny daggers i f you want to solo. I have
an
> 8th level enchanter and kill lions picking my teeth, while my mircyls pet
> clobbers the lion to death. By the way, what weapon do u use? I was stupid
> enough to only work on my piercing skill, so i totall y neglected the
blunt
> skills, which are pretty much useless now, because i wont get any skill
gain
> when fighting greens, and blues are just too dangerous now, when i have a
> staff in my hand, because i do no damage.. anyway, if your a piercing guy,
> you probably got the giant snake fang alreaydy as a pirecer, if not, get
it
> immediately from a player, will cost you 1 plat, does 12 damage easily,
lots
> of times, fast, if you hav high skill.
> And di i tell you to get those daggers?
> And about haze: i also play a cleric, and boy do i miss that haze spell,
the
> monsters just seem to keep missing you...
>
> Greetings, helios 8t level enchanter.
>
>
>
> Alex heeft geschreven in bericht <372df...@news.hawaii.rr.com>...
> >I'm a 7th lvl enchanter and it fucking sucks to be me.
> >
> >Man am I pissed off! SHIT SHIT SHIT arrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhh SHIT!!!!!!!!!
> >
> >I have spent the last 4 days at 10 hours a day trying to get to more
> >experience. But I'm still on the first bubble!
> >
> >I've solo'd, I've grouped with 2 and with 5. Makes no damn difference!
for
> >every 2 fight I win I lose 1 and this is fighting blues only. Seems like
> the
> >game always waits till I'm ahead and sends something to kill me. I'm not
a
> >dumb guy, what the hell is going on! Is this a game intended on pissing
> >people off or entertainment. SHIT!
> >I'm in surefall fighting bears wolfs and in bb fighting gnolls.
> >
> >I haven't bought any animation spell because it requires those damn tiny
> >daggers and there not available in Quenos. So I don't know how well they
> >work.
> >
> >I hear people saying the enchanter class is fucked up and that druids and
> >bards can level up twice as fast. I bet that is true.
> >
> >
> >I'm done ranting thank you
> >
> >
> >PS I think I will try my luck entertaining children with my spells, I may
> >stand a better chance.
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >Alika 7th lvl Enchanter, Qeynos city, Innoruuk svr.
Jeff K.
Alex wrote in message <372f5...@news.hawaii.rr.com>...
>Man was that music to my ears!
>
>Thanks Jeff
He he. My pleasure. <G>
And, as a followup, I *finally* got my magician to level 8 after many hours
of hard work (er... play... this is a game, right? <G>) and OH... MY....
GOD. What a difference! Shock of Blades does a very consistent 31 damage,
with an occassional 15 when the mob makes it's save. My pet is YELLOW! Yes!!
Not only is he far more durable, he does much more damage and even gets
double attacks now and then! This is far better than my first round of pets,
who started out blue when I first got them, with the occassional white.
(Still using earth... I may experiment with fire when I have the platinum to
spare... still have to buy Lesser Shielding and Shield of Fire first).
Invisibility was wonderfully cheap at only a bit over 4 gold. I can solo
mobs with ease that only a level before had me on the brink of death. I
think I may even be able to take on Corflunk.... <G> (Well, maybe not....)
Here's hoping your experience with your level 8 enchanter is as great as
mine with my magician. It was a long, hard road, but it was definitely worth
it. I understand your pets will be yellow also, and that is a HUGE
difference. I hope you make it soon!
E. Lam
On 4 May 1999, K. Laisathit wrote:
> In article <stsaiFB...@netcom.com>, Stephen Tsai <st...@netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> >They are screwed up in that our spell resist rates
> >are exceedingly high verses the lvl MOB; all our spells
> >are either totally resisted or not resisted at all
> >(usually the former).
>
> I'm not sure that's a fair statement. Enchanters' spells work
> against monsters' magic resistance. Verant intentionally jacks
> up MR to prevent monsters from being rooted every time. The
> collateral effect of this decision on Enchanters have been
> corrected somewhat by the introduction of Tashan.
>
> Later...
>
>
Yeah yeah... Tashan is good, but it is the spell that's got resisted a
lot. Almost 8 out of 10 times when I cast Tashan on a blue mob it is
resisted. It becomes a piece of junk spell that I no longer have it
memorized in the slots.
alschy
I have a 12th level enchanter, and it is more difficult to survive and make
money in hack and slash oriented everquest, with this character than with
other types. It is however not more difficult to level since we get exp on
some green. Enchanters exp relationsship are better than most.
Tashan and other spells are ok .. just dont think you get a level 8 spell
powered up to 100 % at level 8. I allways try out my new spells when i get
them and they disappoint in the beginning.
Tashan is very good now - i can mesmerize, do tashan and enfeeble a monster
bringing a monster that ordinarily hits me as a "yellow" to be beaten like a
"blue". That is OK on a one on one basis.
However, when i work in a group having to do this to a group of orcs takes
forever, and costs all my mana. When i buff up 4 members and buff down 4
enemies, i only have my staff and my disorderly pet left. Very useless and
very frustrating .. no less if we loose and have run .. i leave with 100 %
health (didnt he do anything ? .. took no beating ?) Mists 6ac buff is not
impressive buff compared to clerics and shaman buffs.
When i work with this strategy alone i kill a grizzly that con blue/white
solo. Right after doing this a mist wolf kills me. I am in wilderness alone
and totally out. They seem to know it.
Lull and soothe are great spells for enchanters to pick out targets (lull
everybody and take out the one you want) I saw a ranger exploit it in a
bandit camp, and i successfully made a lot of money on a two bandit
stakeout. Lulling one .. killing the other, and vica versa. Great but
enchanters are not the only ones with lull. Paladins and clerics have them
too.
The enchanter is not well balanced. Actually he should have a better
mana/spell relation ship and his spells should cover groups and areas. And
his illusion should obey.
Very important; charm should work better. A level 12 spell that a level 12
enchanter is unhappy with ... make it work 100 % NOW .. you havent been an
enchanter until you walk up to a newbie camp as a gnome with a lion pet,
disguise yourself as a lamppost while u med and return as a half elf. That
illusion is crap. Improve charm. Make sure that cats and dogs can sit on
command.. and roll.
Alex <REMOVE...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Man was that music to my ears!
>
> Thanks Jeff
>
>
>
> --
> Alika 7th (looking forward to 8) lvl Enchanter, Qeynos city, Innoruuk svr.
>
>
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> ali...@hawaii.rr.com
Rod
My advise, keep soloing or with at most 1 companion. Why is that? not
because I like soloing... not even close, I love big groups, it's way
more fun. The problem is, with a large group, you can go and take on
higher level monsters, and here lies the problem. Verant has imposed
a restriction on enchanters (think only on them, but not sure) that
says that your spells are completely useless against monsters more
than 3 levels higher than you.
This obviously sucks, I'm fine when going solo or with someone else,
but when I'm in a group fighting dervishes or any other monster that
cons red to me, but that the group can easily take, I am completely
useless. I can't even enchant our weapons as an enchanter was supposed
to be in the first place.
Imagine how this will suck when you want to fight the higer level
monsters with your friends... you will be a burden, a weak fighter
attacking with a tiny dagger.
Think about this.
Bret Guillet
: I'm a 7th lvl enchanter and it fucking sucks to be me.
: Man am I pissed off! SHIT SHIT SHIT arrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhh SHIT!!!!!!!!!
: I have spent the last 4 days at 10 hours a day trying to get to more
: experience. But I'm still on the first bubble!
: I've solo'd, I've grouped with 2 and with 5. Makes no damn difference! for
: every 2 fight I win I lose 1 and this is fighting blues only. Seems like the
: game always waits till I'm ahead and sends something to kill me. I'm not a
: dumb guy, what the hell is going on! Is this a game intended on pissing
: people off or entertainment. SHIT!
: I'm in surefall fighting bears wolfs and in bb fighting gnolls.
: I haven't bought any animation spell because it requires those damn tiny
: daggers and there not available in Quenos. So I don't know how well they
: work.
: I hear people saying the enchanter class is fucked up and that druids and
: bards can level up twice as fast. I bet that is true.
: I'm done ranting thank you
First of all, get those animations. Tiny daggers can be found in Erudin.
A short boat ride away. The animations serve two purposes. A) They do a
little more damage. B) They can taunt the monster away from you. Then
you can cast spells more efficiently.
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Destine "Education makes a people easy to lead, but difficult
Bret Guillet to drive; easy to govern but impossible to enslave."
des...@ionet.net - Lord Brougham
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Dan Whiteside
First sympathy for the enchanter (I'm a mage)
Last, Agree, Pet's are great! Worth every copper spent. I'm 8th mage and I
worked my ass off to get the 8th Earth Elemental spell...(only 8th spell I
have, actually) He rocks and makes me soo much more effective.