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Daniel

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Aug 25, 2001, 6:27:48 AM8/25/01
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Best of the Best Event Rule Sheet
Enchanter 54+

Spectator and General Rulings

Due to the use of NPCs in this event Spectators will not be allowed to
attend. Any spectators found in the arena will be removed and asked not to
return.

Guides and GM's are considered judges and therefore restricted from being
attacked. Anyone found attacking a GM or Guide may be banished from the
Arena or death touched without warning.

The Arena is off limits to unauthorized PvP 15 minutes before and 15 minutes
after the event. This is to ensure that the contestants and spectators are
safe.

The EULA and Rules of Conduct bind all spectators and contestants as set
forth by SOE and Verant Interactive, Inc.

Spectators and Contestants found breaking the rules could have actions taken
against their account including suspension or possible banning.
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So first off they say, "Due to the use of NPCs in this event Spectators will
not be allowed to attend." then later follow that by sounding as if they
plan on spectators attending. Do they often not allow us to watch? Why
can't they just allow us to watch from a further away viewpoint?
What do most people think the best of the "Best of the Best" tournaments
is to attend and why? Personally I think the Shadow Knight, Warrior, and
possibly Necromancer and Wizard, maybe also Druid would be fun to watch. My
first one to see was the cleric and I didn't like it as much because it was
more just standing around casting. Near the end the two clerics started
using melee to interrupt casting. I liked the bard event better. I was
moving on the day that the Druid event was held so I didn't get to watch it.
And point of advice. If you camped out an alt character in the arena
after the last tournament, and logged into this one late, make sure you did
NOT camp out in the fighting part of the platform (as my Ogre did). I
didn't get yelled at for it, but I noticed as soon as I did that they did
close the zone off so no one else could enter. I guess they realized it was
partly their mistake. I didn't interrupt anything because it was just
before the buffing session started and characters were being called up to
the platform (how does this work? Do GMs give direct tells to them to let
them know its their turn?). Also I read in the rules one time that /shout
is not allowed for spectator use, but /ooc is (or maybe the other way
around). How can I see if my /ooc /shout and /auction are turned off?
Wasn't there a way to disable or enable ability to see those? What was the
command for that?


georg

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Aug 25, 2001, 8:56:47 AM8/25/01
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Daniel wrote:
>
Also I read in the rules one time that /shout
> is not allowed for spectator use, but /ooc is (or maybe the other way
> around). How can I see if my /ooc /shout and /auction are turned off?
> Wasn't there a way to disable or enable ability to see those? What was the
> command for that?

You can change your setting through Options > Chat Filter in half
window setting.

-Tiru

Daniel

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Aug 25, 2001, 3:00:29 PM8/25/01
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Thanks, I'll check that.


Lokari

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Aug 25, 2001, 3:19:17 PM8/25/01
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"Daniel" <danie...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Due to the use of NPCs in this event Spectators will not be allowed to
>attend. Any spectators found in the arena will be removed and asked not to
>return.

That really does seem odd. Maybe I'm nuts, but if *I* was one of the
contestants in a BotB contest, I'd want spectators. Imagine a
heavy-weight boxing championship with no audience. Sort of defeats the
purpose.

What I'd *like* to think they mean by this is that spectators will be
allowed in the Arena zone, but not within the PvP area. But no amount
of stretching my imagination can make it work that way.

I've only played an enchanter through low levels - can anyone come up
with a reason that an Enchanter BotB contest shouldn't have
spectators?

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Daniel

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Aug 25, 2001, 3:31:37 PM8/25/01
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My guess is they don't want to take chances at the NPCs aggroing on the
spectators.


Ben Kirtland

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Aug 25, 2001, 4:31:56 PM8/25/01
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> What I'd *like* to think they mean by this is that spectators will be
> allowed in the Arena zone, but not within the PvP area. But no amount
> of stretching my imagination can make it work that way.
>
> I've only played an enchanter through low levels - can anyone come up
> with a reason that an Enchanter BotB contest shouldn't have
> spectators?

we need "pay per view"!

Ben


Mark A. Rimer

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Aug 25, 2001, 10:58:11 PM8/25/01
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Lokari <lokari@_nospam_lokari.net> wrote in message
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> I've only played an enchanter through low levels - can anyone come up
> with a reason that an Enchanter BotB contest shouldn't have
> spectators?

Would it be possible to charm your level 60 rogue friend
to interrupt your opponent's casting while stabbing him to
death?

"No, seriously...I just showed up to watch and forgot all
my normal level 60 MR gear..."
;-)

Lokari

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Aug 25, 2001, 11:51:57 PM8/25/01
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"Daniel" <danie...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>My guess is they don't want to take chances at the NPCs aggroing on the
>spectators.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the last time I was in the Arena zone,
there were no NPCs.


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ryouseika

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Aug 26, 2001, 12:41:40 AM8/26/01
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In article <cdsgotkbc3ip1tgpi...@4ax.com>,
lokari@_nospam_lokari.net says...

The original post said something about the contenders
using NPCs. Weird, though - I watched a BoTB on TM once
and I'm not sure who it was (some kind of casters) and
*they* were using 'red knight' and 'blue knight' NPCs to
fight each other. Never did quite get the point but
then I got bored quite quickly anyway. If it's the same
thing - you're not missing much :)

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14th level mage
8th level ranger
9th level shadowknight
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Daniel

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Aug 26, 2001, 3:29:39 AM8/26/01
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ryouseika <ha...@ha.ha> wrote in message
news:MPG.15f21e38d21abf46989713@shawnews...

> In article <cdsgotkbc3ip1tgpi...@4ax.com>,
> lokari@_nospam_lokari.net says...
> > "Daniel" <danie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > >My guess is they don't want to take chances at the NPCs aggroing on the
> > >spectators.
> >
> > Correct me if I'm wrong, but the last time I was in the Arena zone,
> > there were no NPCs.
>
> The original post said something about the contenders
> using NPCs. Weird, though - I watched a BoTB on TM once
> and I'm not sure who it was (some kind of casters) and
> *they* were using 'red knight' and 'blue knight' NPCs to
> fight each other. Never did quite get the point but
> then I got bored quite quickly anyway. If it's the same
> thing - you're not missing much :)
>
That was the Cleric tournament with the red and blue ogre knights.
Go and read the rules page about this one and it states that there will be
an NPC at each of the 4 torches in the corners and also one on each end of
the platform, which after a certain time limit NPCs will start spawing in
the center. If the contestants step out of the center 4 tiles an NPC will
agro on them.


georg

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Aug 26, 2001, 6:54:37 AM8/26/01
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Daniel wrote:
>
> Go and read the rules page about this one and it states that there will be
> an NPC at each of the 4 torches in the corners and also one on each end of
> the platform, which after a certain time limit NPCs will start spawing in
> the center. If the contestants step out of the center 4 tiles an NPC will
> agro on them.

I am guessing that the NPCs are there to be charmed by the enchanters,
and used to fight the other NPCs and the enchanters themselves.

If spectators are there, it might be an easy thing for a. the NPCs to
aggro on the spectators, and b. the enchanters to charm someone in the
crowd (and apologize for it later- oh i didn't know he was a spectator).

If it was me in this tourney, I'd probably start out by mezzing myself,
which is a quick way to die.

-TIru

James

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Aug 27, 2001, 3:39:26 PM8/27/01
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Lokari wrote in message <94ufotgv7l8ogcgpc...@4ax.com>...

>"Daniel" <danie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Due to the use of NPCs in this event Spectators will not be allowed to
>>attend. Any spectators found in the arena will be removed and asked not to
>>return.
>
>That really does seem odd. Maybe I'm nuts, but if *I* was one of the
>contestants in a BotB contest, I'd want spectators. Imagine a
>heavy-weight boxing championship with no audience. Sort of defeats the
>purpose.

The spectators have to be in the arena. That means they can be
targetted. At the end of our first team BotB on our server, the winning team
(which was something like four level 60 WIZs) cut loose on the "stands" and
wiped out half the observers.

>I've only played an enchanter through low levels - can anyone come up
>with a reason that an Enchanter BotB contest shouldn't have
>spectators?

Charm. The NPCs in the Arena are there precisely because they can be
charmed, and used against the other ENCH. If PCs were available to be used,
then some key elements of the setup could be avoided. For example, PCs may
have abilities (nukes, Backstab) that the selected NPCs don't have. The ENCH
also won't have to deal with aggro from a PC when his charm breaks - which
they WOULD with an NPC. That'll be a big part of the strategy - the ENCHs
can dispel each other's charm attempts, and will have to deal with the
resulting aggro.

Personally, I think the smart ENCH will go for the unexpected strategy -
turn off spell effects, cast Sentinel right away, then kill the massively
lagged opponent. ;-)

James

StanMann

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Aug 27, 2001, 3:49:21 PM8/27/01
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James wrote:
>
> Personally, I think the smart ENCH will go for the unexpected strategy -
> turn off spell effects, cast Sentinel right away, then kill the massively
> lagged opponent. ;-)
>

And lose instantly. Sentinal is banned for this competition.

StanMann

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James

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Aug 27, 2001, 5:59:24 PM8/27/01
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StanMann wrote in message <3B8AA3DA...@not.there.anymore.com>...

>James wrote:
>>
>> Personally, I think the smart ENCH will go for the unexpected
strategy -
>> turn off spell effects, cast Sentinel right away, then kill the massively
>> lagged opponent. ;-)
>>
>
>And lose instantly. Sentinal is banned for this competition.

I see VI has anticipated my ploy! Clever, that!

James

Lokari

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Aug 30, 2001, 3:59:08 PM8/30/01
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"James" <jamesg...@home.com> wrote:

>The spectators have to be in the arena. That means they can be
>targetted.

Spectators have to be in the arena *zone*, but the entire zone is not
a PvP area.

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James

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Aug 30, 2001, 4:40:45 PM8/30/01
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Lokari wrote in message ...

I doubt all the spectators are all going to crowd around the doorway
into the PvP area. ;-)

James

Dan Day

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Aug 31, 2001, 3:13:15 AM8/31/01
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The PvP area is surrounded by a huge wall which blocks the
view of it from the non-PvP area, unless you stand at the "gate",
which is so far away from the PvP "platform" that it's very,
very difficult to see what's happening.

For all practical purposes, if you want to watch the action, you
have to be sitting in the PvP area. And every GM tournament, some
moron (or 3) decides to go around PK'ing the spectators. Yes,
the GM's can discipline them -- no, that doesn't stop it from
happening almost every time anyway.

And the moment the tournament is over, another dozen or two
folks decide it's free-for-all time, and they see how many
spectators they can PK as the spectators make a run for the
gate into the non-PvP area.

I don't understand why they didn't make non-PvP "bleachers"
for the spectators. Not only would this prevent audience
deaths, but if it were sloped like the Roman Coliseum,
the spectators would have a much better view as well.

Chris

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Sep 1, 2001, 1:04:29 PM9/1/01
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I agree, turning the arena into a coliseum would be great I went to one best
of the best tournaments and never again because of the poor view
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Lokari

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Sep 1, 2001, 3:12:44 PM9/1/01
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d...@firstnethou.com (Dan Day) wrote:

>I don't understand why they didn't make non-PvP "bleachers"
>for the spectators. Not only would this prevent audience
>deaths, but if it were sloped like the Roman Coliseum,
>the spectators would have a much better view as well.

No kidding. The PvP area in Freeport is arranged this way, too bad the
Arena isn't.


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