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Mike

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Apr 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/19/00
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I have heard the magicians have the best damage shields of all the other
classes. Is this true?

emerald

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Apr 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/20/00
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uhhhhh..okay...first you'll have to define 'other' for
me...the Magi dmg shield does more dmg, but the druid's
lasts longer

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Jon Siglinger

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Apr 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/20/00
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Post to Emerald... Damage shield duration goes up with level.. The
experience you have had with druid damage shields is most likely due to the
fact that you grouped with a druid after he had already had his damage
shield spell for a few levels.. therefor, the shield having is maximum
duration. The same applies for magicians.. there damage shield spell gets
longer each level after the mage gets it.. If you time them say 5 levels
after each class gets the spell.. you will find they both last the same
duration.

P.S. I played both a magician and druid to 45th and 35th respectively.


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Kevlar

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Apr 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/20/00
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I have heard the mage does 1 more point of damage with their
shield, but druids also can stack a personal shield with the
regular shield. Not sure if magicians can do this.

-K

Angel

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Apr 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/20/00
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Magician damage sheild adds to your fire resistance.

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Casse Thimble <Ill Tempered Sea Bass> - Gnome Magician 39, Bristlebane

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Mekron

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Apr 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/20/00
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Aye Magician damage shield should be the last buff cast on you pre-Nagafen
:)

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Mr Foo Bar

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I'm not sure if mages would *want* to :-) they get pets.

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> I have heard the mage does 1 more point of damage with their
> shield, but druids also can stack a personal shield with the
> regular shield. Not sure if magicians can do this.
>
> -K
>

Jeremy Music

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Apr 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/20/00
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Mike <mva...@cell2000.net> wrote:
>I have heard the magicians have the best damage shields of all the other
>classes. Is this true?

Magician damage shield is generally 1 pt better than a same level druid
damage shield. Druid damage shield gives +AC, magician's gives +fire.
Druid's damage shield will last a little longer than a same level magician's
damage shield. Magician's damage shield will stack on top of bard's damage
shield and ranger's little damage shield, but won't stack on druids (damn).

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Sergey Dashevskiy

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Apr 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/20/00
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In article <slrn8fu1o...@darkstar.qx.net>, re...@darkstar.qx.net
says...

> Mike <mva...@cell2000.net> wrote:
> >I have heard the magicians have the best damage shields of all the other
> >classes. Is this true?
>
> Magician damage shield is generally 1 pt better than a same level druid
> damage shield. Druid damage shield gives +AC, magician's gives +fire.
> Druid's damage shield will last a little longer than a same level magician's
> damage shield. Magician's damage shield will stack on top of bard's damage
> shield and ranger's little damage shield, but won't stack on druids (damn).

Bard's fire based damage shields will stack with either druid or mage
shields correctly. Cold based damage shield used to *subtract* the
existing damage shields (druid or mage). Verant had claimed to fix it a
few times, but last time I checked (about a month ago), it would still
not stack

>
> J
>

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Xirin, 31st retired druid
Xirinia Gusl'ar, 41st tanking bard of Povar, guildless
Run fast, die often, leave a well dressed corpse.

Mason Barge

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Apr 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/20/00
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A druid needs to straighten this out. In summary, a mage damage shield will
always hit harder than any other. It provides some fire resistance as well.
It lasts about 5 minutes on a mage pet and 2 minutes on anyone else.

Druids I believe have not one, but two damage shields. One small one, which is
self only, and the one they can throw on others. The mage shield usually
exceeds the thornshield by more than 1 damage, usually by 2 or 3. The new
druid shield, however, will come within 1 point of the mage shield.

I do not know about duration of druid shields.

The self-shield on the mage fire pet is the biggest damage shield in the game,
btw. It hits for 25 at level 44 and I think 30 at 49. Haven't tested it yet.


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Jeremy Music

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Apr 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/20/00
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Mason Barge <mason...@aol.comnospam> wrote:
>
>The self-shield on the mage fire pet is the biggest damage shield in the game,
>btw. It hits for 25 at level 44 and I think 30 at 49. Haven't tested it yet.
>

I believe, from my few tests, that the fire shield on the fire pet hits for
the level of the pet, maybe with an across-the-board subtraction of maybe 5
points.

I've been meaning to do some duels to find out exactly, but need to have
some 30s people around to find out what level my pet is. :)

Mason Barge

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Apr 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/20/00
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>
>
>I believe, from my few tests, that the fire shield on the fire pet hits for
>the level of the pet, maybe with an across-the-board subtraction of maybe 5
>points.

I did a test on a fire pet summoned from the Level 44 spell and it hit for 25.

Rex Wells

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Apr 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/20/00
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Hello,
I am a druid and we get 2 damage shields. We get a personal damage
shield, and a damage shield that we can give to others. All of the druid
buffs, damage shields and hp, add AC. If i have both damage shields up,
then mine does more damage than a mage of the same lvl, when i get hit, but
if i am casting damage shild on tank, and a mage casts damage shield on
tank, the mage shield will do more damage. since druids are crappy tanks
this is totally mute issue. anyways hope this helps.


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> A druid needs to straighten this out. In summary, a mage damage shield
will
> always hit harder than any other. It provides some fire resistance as
well.
> It lasts about 5 minutes on a mage pet and 2 minutes on anyone else.
>
> Druids I believe have not one, but two damage shields. One small one,
which is
> self only, and the one they can throw on others. The mage shield usually
> exceeds the thornshield by more than 1 damage, usually by 2 or 3. The new
> druid shield, however, will come within 1 point of the mage shield.
>
> I do not know about duration of druid shields.
>

> The self-shield on the mage fire pet is the biggest damage shield in the
game,
> btw. It hits for 25 at level 44 and I think 30 at 49. Haven't tested it
yet.
>
>

George Ruof

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Apr 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/20/00
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re...@darkstar.qx.net (Jeremy Music) wrote:

>Magician damage shield is generally 1 pt better than a same level druid
>damage shield. Druid damage shield gives +AC, magician's gives +fire.
>Druid's damage shield will last a little longer than a same level magician's
>damage shield. Magician's damage shield will stack on top of bard's damage
>shield and ranger's little damage shield, but won't stack on druids (damn).

The damage shield a druid can cast on another player does not add AC.

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George Ruof
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Joseph M Leonard

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Apr 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/21/00
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Jon Siglinger (JSigl...@worldinter.net) wrote:
: duration. The same applies for magicians.. there damage shield spell gets

: longer each level after the mage gets it.. If you time them say 5 levels
: after each class gets the spell.. you will find they both last the same
: duration.

Actually, it is strictly dependent on your abjuration skill. My ranger
has maxed 235 abjuration and shield of brambles lasts for about 4-5
minutes. Shield of lava is the best damage shield in the game, no
contest. Not only does it offer fire resistance bonus (nagafen raid
anyone?) that stacks with everything, but it also blesses it's recipient
with a 25 point damage shield.
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Joe
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Member of Guardians of Darkness


Joseph M Leonard

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Apr 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/21/00
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Jeremy Music (re...@darkstar.qx.net) wrote:
: Magician damage shield is generally 1 pt better than a same level druid
: damage shield. Druid damage shield gives +AC, magician's gives +fire.
: Druid's damage shield will last a little longer than a same level magician's
: damage shield. Magician's damage shield will stack on top of bard's damage
: shield and ranger's little damage shield, but won't stack on druids (damn).

THey don't stack. The only things that will stack with shield of lava are
the bramblecoat series, bard's psalm of cooling, SLN, and shaman potions.
You can get a damage shield as high as 52 or so.

Also shield of thorns gives no AC bonus. Only the self-only bramblecoat
series does that.

Jeremy Music

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Apr 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/21/00
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George Ruof <gr...@pacificnet.net> wrote:

>re...@darkstar.qx.net (Jeremy Music) wrote:
>
>>Magician damage shield is generally 1 pt better than a same level druid
>>damage shield. Druid damage shield gives +AC, magician's gives +fire.
>>Druid's damage shield will last a little longer than a same level magician's
>>damage shield. Magician's damage shield will stack on top of bard's damage
>>shield and ranger's little damage shield, but won't stack on druids (damn).
>
>The damage shield a druid can cast on another player does not add AC.
>

It doesn't? Playing a magician mostly (and a solo necro) you'll have to
forgive the fact that I am rarely the one being damage shielded. :)

Ben Pocock

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Apr 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/24/00
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On 20 Apr 2000 16:21:50 GMT, mason...@aol.comnospam (Mason Barge)
wrote:

>>
>>
>>I believe, from my few tests, that the fire shield on the fire pet hits for
>>the level of the pet, maybe with an across-the-board subtraction of maybe 5
>>points.
>
>I did a test on a fire pet summoned from the Level 44 spell and it hit for 25.

First, my fire elemental summoned at 8th level had a 10point damage
shield built in.

Second, the druid ds costs less mana than a mage ds. They last about
the same time (at least up to 25). Of course, I haven't played my mage
in a while, so it might have changed. But the damage shield did the
same damage no matter what level you were. I currently have started a
druid after playing a cleric and warrior to the mid-twenties. The
druid shield does a bit more damage each level you go up.

Overall, it seems to me that the druid damage shield is a bit better
in terms of mana and damage. Of course, I'm not sure how the high
level ones compare, or if things have changed in the last four months.

Mason Barge

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Apr 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/24/00
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> I haven't played my mage
>in a while, so it might have changed. But the damage shield did the
>same damage no matter what level you were.

This was not true when I was coming up. Both druid and mage damage shields
increase with level, although sometimes they max out before max level.

>
>Overall, it seems to me that the druid damage shield is a bit better
>in terms of mana and damage.

This is incorrect. Mage shield has more damage at every level.

Druid shield stacks with the druid's self-only shield, so possibly the
combination hits for a point more. But I think mage shield will stack on the
bramble shield. So this will be easy to test. Shield yourself with thorns,
get hit, then get a mage fireshield instead and get hit.

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