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Phaedra

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Mar 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/30/99
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There's a goblin wizard casting charm on players in the Butcherblocks
now. I was wondering if there was any personal enchantment spells that
would reduce the chance of being hit by it. Also, can you "cure" a
person that has been charmed? Any help would be much appreciated,
running around trying to hurt innocent folk is not my idea of fun.

Daniel Thomas

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Mar 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/30/99
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Kobold shamans in Steamfont are doing the same thing. They charm pets and
players alike.

- Spiritwulf Wood Elf Druid
- Bonewulf Gnome Necromancer
- Icewulf Barbarian Warrior

Skip Sanders

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Mar 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/30/99
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A charmed PC loses all control of their character. You're just along for
the ride, able to watch, but NO keys do anything. You become, for game
purposes, an NPC. Yes, that means charmed characters, regardless of PvP
state, CAN be ordered to attack other PC's, and can be attacked back, while
charmed.
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Raven IlI <rave...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >Kobold shamans in Steamfont are doing the same thing. They charm pets and
> >players alike.
> >
>
> Can someone explain to me what a 'charmed' player does or can't do? Is
the
> wizard or shaman controlling them like pets? ie: "Attack that other PC
over
> there." How long does it last? Can you move around or attack at will
when
> you're charmed, or are you completely under the control of the wizard(or
> whatever)?
>
> Thanks for any info!
>
>
> -Raven-
>
>


K. Laisathit

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Mar 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/31/99
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In article <37016...@news.pacifier.com>, Phaedra <ex...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>There's a goblin wizard casting charm on players in the Butcherblocks
>now. I was wondering if there was any personal enchantment spells that
>would reduce the chance of being hit by it. Also, can you "cure" a
>person that has been charmed? Any help would be much appreciated,
>running around trying to hurt innocent folk is not my idea of fun.

Not that I know. Cancel magic doesn't seem to work against a
charmed PC. This is, IMHO, a bug. It's okay for NPC to charm,
up to a point, but it's not okay for NPC to charm and the PC
not to have a counter spell.

Later...
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confused

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Mar 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/31/99
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kir...@u.washington.edu (K. Laisathit) conjured up this insight:

>In article <37016...@news.pacifier.com>, Phaedra <ex...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>There's a goblin wizard casting charm on players in the Butcherblocks
>>now. I was wondering if there was any personal enchantment spells that
>>would reduce the chance of being hit by it. Also, can you "cure" a
>>person that has been charmed? Any help would be much appreciated,
>>running around trying to hurt innocent folk is not my idea of fun.

>Not that I know. Cancel magic doesn't seem to work against a
>charmed PC. This is, IMHO, a bug. It's okay for NPC to charm,
>up to a point, but it's not okay for NPC to charm and the PC
>not to have a counter spell.


As of today, all casters in BB and the Cauldron have been casting
charm. Have yet to see if cancel magic works because I'm the one
getting charmed, not my tanks.

If Cancel Magic does not work (as it is suppossed to on charm) then it
is nothing less than utter stupidity to go anywhere near a caster and
Sony has done a good job of really screwing up the game. Of course,
since everythings down again, it doesn't matter much.

confused

Raven IlI

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Mar 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/31/99
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Grognard

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Mar 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/31/99
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Raven IlI <rave...@aol.com> wrote:
: Can someone explain to me what a 'charmed' player does or can't do? Is the

: wizard or shaman controlling them like pets? ie: "Attack that other PC over
: there." How long does it last? Can you move around or attack at will when
: you're charmed, or are you completely under the control of the wizard(or
: whatever)?

I dunno I saw a non PVP 8th level Paladin mow down a poor 4th level mage
in Qeynos on Xegony today due to a charm - 4 whacks and the mage was back
in Erudin cussing up a storm - he never saw what hit him (the shots were
from behind). Bot players BLUE, neither PVP, and the Paladin didnt seem
to suffer any penalties. IF nothing else, this is a PVP loophole, and the
paladin should have had his magic stripped for the wanton killing of a
nother player (revoke Paladinhood until a quest or something is done).
As it stands, that poor mage got screwed. SOny better fix this - its
bullshit for newbies to get hit by 8th level characters in the newbie
hunting zones.


Paul Bernat

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Mar 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/31/99
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"Phaedra" <ex...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>There's a goblin wizard casting charm on players in the Butcherblocks
>now. I was wondering if there was any personal enchantment spells that
>would reduce the chance of being hit by it. Also, can you "cure" a
>person that has been charmed? Any help would be much appreciated,
>running around trying to hurt innocent folk is not my idea of fun.
>

How about Taper Enchantment? I've not had to use it (yet), so no idea
if it will work.

Paul Bernat
e-mail work: pz.b...@ptl-uk.com
home: pbe...@ikroh.u-net.net

Phaedra

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Mar 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/31/99
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When you are charmed you have no control over your character. It felt
like I was just watching a movie. I couldn't even talk to warn the guy I
was chasing. I'm assuming that the guards will kill you if you come
within their range. It lasted a few minutes, probably seemed longer than
it really lasted. The only thing I can think of to help someone that is
charmed, is to stun or root them to keep them from getting into trouble
and hurting others.

Raven IlI wrote in message
<19990330235349...@ng60.aol.com>...


|>Kobold shamans in Steamfont are doing the same thing. They charm pets
and
|>players alike.
|>
|

|Can someone explain to me what a 'charmed' player does or can't do? Is
the
|wizard or shaman controlling them like pets? ie: "Attack that other PC
over
|there." How long does it last? Can you move around or attack at will
when
|you're charmed, or are you completely under the control of the
wizard(or
|whatever)?
|

Jeff Hipson

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Mar 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/31/99
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I've been charmed a couple of times by a wandering Necro - only lasted a few
seconds but maybe that's because I'm a cleric with high wisdom. Once during
a lull in his powers(?) I grasped at a straw and cast cure disease on myself
it seemed to work and I was free from his evil clutches. Alas, my elation
was short lived and I soon met an untimely demise, but I died a free man
nonetheless.

A lot of fun this game is with all the interesting twists ("What
the....!?!....Ack!!!.....hmm....Yes!!!!.....D'oh!")

Pistos

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K. Laisathit

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Mar 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/31/99
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In article <7ds2ns$65s$1...@camel0.mindspring.com>,

confused <confused@now_totally_bewildered.com> wrote:
>
>>Not that I know. Cancel magic doesn't seem to work against a
>>charmed PC. This is, IMHO, a bug. It's okay for NPC to charm,
>>up to a point, but it's not okay for NPC to charm and the PC
>>not to have a counter spell.
>
>
>As of today, all casters in BB and the Cauldron have been casting
>charm. Have yet to see if cancel magic works because I'm the one
>getting charmed, not my tanks.

According to folks on the enchantment webboard, cancel magic
doesn't work. No words on taper enchantment. Still, taper
enchantment doesn't cancel harmful spells, it simply shorten
the duration. It's a bit of help if it works. I doubt it
though.

Steve Berra

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Mar 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/31/99
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Cancel Magic does work on charm, it just takes multiple castings to get it
to remove charm. The number of castings depends on your level, the charmed
pc level and the level pf the pc that did the charming.

Alamin Magician Cazic Thule

K. Laisathit <kir...@u.washington.edu> wrote in message
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> In article <37016...@news.pacifier.com>, Phaedra <ex...@hotmail.com>


wrote:
> >There's a goblin wizard casting charm on players in the Butcherblocks
> >now. I was wondering if there was any personal enchantment spells that
> >would reduce the chance of being hit by it. Also, can you "cure" a
> >person that has been charmed? Any help would be much appreciated,
> >running around trying to hurt innocent folk is not my idea of fun.
>

> Not that I know. Cancel magic doesn't seem to work against a
> charmed PC. This is, IMHO, a bug. It's okay for NPC to charm,
> up to a point, but it's not okay for NPC to charm and the PC
> not to have a counter spell.
>

Silverlock

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Apr 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/1/99
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On Wed, 31 Mar 1999 08:55:35 GMT, Grognard <EQPl...@pobox.com> wrote:

>Raven IlI <rave...@aol.com> wrote:
>: Can someone explain to me what a 'charmed' player does or can't do? Is the


>: wizard or shaman controlling them like pets? ie: "Attack that other PC over
>: there." How long does it last? Can you move around or attack at will when
>: you're charmed, or are you completely under the control of the wizard(or
>: whatever)?
>

>I dunno I saw a non PVP 8th level Paladin mow down a poor 4th level mage
>in Qeynos on Xegony today due to a charm - 4 whacks and the mage was back
>in Erudin cussing up a storm - he never saw what hit him (the shots were
>from behind). Bot players BLUE, neither PVP, and the Paladin didnt seem
>to suffer any penalties. IF nothing else, this is a PVP loophole, and the
>paladin should have had his magic stripped for the wanton killing of a
>nother player (revoke Paladinhood until a quest or something is done).
>As it stands, that poor mage got screwed. SOny better fix this - its
>bullshit for newbies to get hit by 8th level characters in the newbie
>hunting zones.

How is it abusable? Only NPC's can cast it on you. Also since you are
charmed you are not in control and of course your God isn't going to
hold you responsible.

It's no more bullshit then the Griffins flying around West and East
Commons. When you fight a magic casting caster you need to take
them down pronto.


Steve Berra

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Apr 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/1/99
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Actually, don't think it is a bug. When a PC becomes charmed, the PC looses
all control of his/her character, they are under control of the AI and in
effect become a NPC that is grouped with the NPC that charmed them. You have
absolutly no control at your keyboard all you can do is sit back and hope
you don't die or kill a member of your group, or a innocent bystander. Have
been charmed a number of times and it is extremely frustrating.

Alamin Magician Cazic Thule

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Steve Berra

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Hmm - strange in beta cancel magic did work on getting rid of charm. Was
charmed by the NPC in Qeynos Hill and a high level magician(22) removed it
from me, but it took about 7 tries.

Alamin Magician Cazic Thule
K. Laisathit <kir...@u.washington.edu> wrote in message

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> In article <7ds2ns$65s$1...@camel0.mindspring.com>,
> confused <confused@now_totally_bewildered.com> wrote:
> >

> >>Not that I know. Cancel magic doesn't seem to work against a
> >>charmed PC. This is, IMHO, a bug. It's okay for NPC to charm,
> >>up to a point, but it's not okay for NPC to charm and the PC
> >>not to have a counter spell.
> >
> >

> >As of today, all casters in BB and the Cauldron have been casting
> >charm. Have yet to see if cancel magic works because I'm the one
> >getting charmed, not my tanks.
>
> According to folks on the enchantment webboard, cancel magic
> doesn't work. No words on taper enchantment. Still, taper
> enchantment doesn't cancel harmful spells, it simply shorten
> the duration. It's a bit of help if it works. I doubt it
> though.
>

Andy Beales

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Apr 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/2/99
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On Wed, 31 Mar 1999 14:12:40 -0400, "Jeff Hipson"
<jeff....@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:

>I've been charmed a couple of times by a wandering Necro - only lasted a few
>seconds but maybe that's because I'm a cleric with high wisdom. Once during
>a lull in his powers(?) I grasped at a straw and cast cure disease on myself
>it seemed to work and I was free from his evil clutches. Alas, my elation
>was short lived and I soon met an untimely demise, but I died a free man
>nonetheless.
>
>A lot of fun this game is with all the interesting twists ("What
>the....!?!....Ack!!!.....hmm....Yes!!!!.....D'oh!")
>
>Pistos
>

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I've seen both sides of this in West Karanas. Our party of three had
been killed, and we where making our way back without equipment at
night. All of a sudden the mage I'm following starts spell casting at
an NPC, then runs over to me and starts punching me. I run for it, and
he then apologises and says he was charmed. He'd a feud with paladins,
and an allied NPC spellcaster was wandering about and attacked him. A
little later we bumped into the same NPC, and he hit me with a charm.
I'd absolutely NO control over myself, I just ran for a few minutes.
Just hope I never bump into somebody armed or a monk when they're
charmed.

Bodalas, 6th cleric Innoruuck server

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