New Iraqi war rumour - developing UL?
Graham Toal
From: dav...@yang.earlham.edu
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Nuke in the desert?
I was at a picnic when a FOAF (Friend Of A Friend, never a really
reliable source), that at least at one point in the gulf war, the United States
used a tactical nuclear weapon against an Iraqi target way out in the
desert, and have been able to cover it up (largely thanks to the extensive
"control" of the media) so far. Normally, I wouldn't pay much attention
to what sounds like an apocryphal story, except (1) the guy worked for
U.S. Army Intelligence during the war and might actually have been in a
position to know, and (2) the guy approved of the action; this makes me
doubt it's a rumor created for political gain, otherwise the tone would be
more disapproving, you'd think. Anybody heard anything, or is this just a
late-breaking gulf rumor?
-David Vacca
Dagwood splits the Atom
>From: dav...@yang.earlham.edu
>Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
>Subject: Nuke in the desert?
>
> I was at a picnic when a FOAF (Friend Of A Friend, never a really
>reliable source), that at least at one point in the gulf war, the United States
>used a tactical nuclear weapon against an Iraqi target way out in the
>desert, and have been able to cover it up (largely thanks to the extensive
>"control" of the media) so far.
Maybe. I sort of doubt it...sooner or later the French (or someone similar)
would catch wind of it and raise a ruckus. But maybe.
>Normally, I wouldn't pay much attention
>to what sounds like an apocryphal story, except (1) the guy worked for
>U.S. Army Intelligence during the war and might actually have been in a
>position to know,
There are all sorts of aspects to Army Intelligence, and to be sure,
nobody knows _everything_.
>and (2) the guy approved of the action; this makes me
>doubt it's a rumor created for political gain, otherwise the tone would be
>more disapproving, you'd think. Anybody heard anything, or is this just a
>late-breaking gulf rumor?
Just because one hot-head likes the idea hardly means the rumor is free
of a disapproving tone. After all, Mr. Vacca relayed the story with a
tone of his own.
Okay, here's a possibility. Newsweek (mid-May, I think) reported a flurry
of radio traffic by British troops that the US had detonated a nuke, after
witnessing a BLU-82 "Daisy-cutter" explosion in the distance. Both types
of explosions _do_ share some similarities.
-dave
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Jonathan Spencer
>Is this a new UL in the formation?
>From: dav...@yang.earlham.edu
>Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
>Subject: Nuke in the desert?
[...]
> that at least at one point in the gulf war, the United States
>used a tactical nuclear weapon against an Iraqi target way out in the
>desert [...]
My first question is, what was the target and the yield of the
weapon?
Jon Harley
>gt...@gem.stack.urc.tue.nl (Graham Toal) writes:
>
>>Is this a new UL in the formation?
>
>[...]
>> that at least at one point in the gulf war, the United States
>>used a tactical nuclear weapon against an Iraqi target way out in the
>>desert [...]
>
>My first question is, what was the target and the yield of the
>weapon?
And this from a man who makes sport of baiting other people? At last,
Jonathan Spencer takes the bait. Now I've seen it all.
Of course, if I were the U.S. military I would keep the target and yield
of the weapon very secret, so it's not surprising the source didn't say.
(new ULs should be defended :-)
/jon
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Michael Jones
[ discussion of nuke in Iraq ...]
>Okay, here's a possibility. Newsweek (mid-May, I think) reported a flurry
>of radio traffic by British troops that the US had detonated a nuke, after
>witnessing a BLU-82 "Daisy-cutter" explosion in the distance. Both types
>of explosions _do_ share some similarities.
>-dave
The 'Daisy Cutter' is a 15,000 lb. fuel-air explosive bomb. Fuel air
explosives typically generate about 4 times the energy of TNT (of equal
weight), and create a huge fire ball, so one of these bombs could be
confused with a tactical nuclear device. They were used to clear
mine fields in the Gulf war.
It would be very difficult to hide a nuclear explosion. There would
be fallout (small nuclear weapons are usually very 'dirty') which
would be detectable in the air for several hundred, if not thousands
of miles. There would also be seismic disturbances, although I don't
know what the intensity of these disturbances would be with respect
to the altitude of the explosion. I'm not saying it didn't happen ...
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Carlos Borges
>>used a tactical nuclear weapon against an Iraqi target way out in the
>>desert [...]
>My first question is, what was the target and the yield of the
>weapon?
The U.S. dropped a couple of really big bombs (I'm not sure of the name,
I can check if you're really interested) out of the back of a Hercules.
These were the largest known CONVENTIONAL bombs in use. The effect was
a relatively large mushroom cloud. This served more as a psycological
weapon than anything, since it really wasn't accurate. There were leaflets
dropped beforehand to warn of the drop.
A British unit nearby apparently thought the weapon was nuclear, and that's
probably how this UL started.
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