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raykeller

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Abstained or absent during UN rebuke of US Jerusalem move? Come party with Nikki Haley!


https://www.rt.com/usa/414008-nikki-haley-un-party-jerusalem/

On Thursday, the UN General Assembly voted overwhelming in favor of a non-binding resolution declaring US recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital “null and void.”

Before the vote, Haley sent letters to over 180 countries, warning that Washington would be “taking names” of those who dared to defy its globally-condemned recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital. US President Donald Trump went one step further, hinting that disobedient nations would have their US aid slashed. “Let them vote against us. We’ll save a lot. We don’t care,” said Trump before the vote.

Unmoved by Haley’s name-taking and Trump’s casual extortion, 128 nations voted in favor of the resolution. However, much to Haley’s delight, eight nations (apart from the United States) voted no, 35 abstained and 21 were absent.

Haley later sent out invitations to ambassadors of the countries which did not approve of the UN resolution to a reception on January 3 to thank them for their friendship with the United States, US media reported publishing screen-shots of the invitations. 

 The VIP guest list will include Israel, Guatemala, Honduras, Micronesia, Nauru, Palau, the Marshall Islands and Togo – the countries that voted no. Australia, Argentina, Canada, Colombia, Croatia, Czech Republic, Georgia, Mexico and Ukraine are among the abstaining or absent potential party-goers.






Mr. B1ack

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On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 23:32:02 -0500, raykeller <"raykeller is 100Watt
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> Abstained or absent during UN rebuke of US Jerusalem move? Come party
> with Nikki Haley!

Shit YEA ! Fuck all you horrible Jew-haters !!!

raykeller

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National debt is $21 trillion and counting.

Trump is feasting the sycophants who voted for giving away Jerusalem to
the Jews, and feasting the absentees and abstainers to hope they will
vote favorably next time.

Why?




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Just Wondering

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On 12/22/2017 9:32 PM, raykeller wrote:
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> On Thursday, the UN General Assembly voted overwhelming in favor of a
> non-binding resolution declaring US recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s
> capital /“null and void.”

Who cares about the UN vote? Jerusalem IS Israel's capital. Any nation
can decide for itself what its capital is. Israel chose Jerusalem as its
capital long before Trump came along. The decision is not up to a vote
by the UN general asses.

raykeller

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If I "choose" your home as my toilet, am I automatically entitled to
shit in your living room?




OrigInfoJunkie

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> If I "choose" your home as my toilet, am I automatically entitled to
> shit in your living room?

Only if I agree my home is a toilet and allow you to use my home as your
toilet.

ITM, Israel says Jerusalem is their capital and the US accepts their decision
to use Jerusalem as their capital. Seems you're the one with the problem in
accepting that premise.


Siri Cruise

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In article <Z%o%B.10054$ET6....@fx38.iad>,
Just Wondering <JustWo...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Who cares about the UN vote? Jerusalem IS Israel's capital. Any nation

Why are the wingnuts whining about it?

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Klaus Schadenfreude

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>In article <Z%o%B.10054$ET6....@fx38.iad>,
> Just Wondering <JustWo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Who cares about the UN vote? Jerusalem IS Israel's capital. Any nation
>
>Why are the wingnuts whining about it?


Nasouh al-Ramini is a wingnut?

A Hamas official speaking at a West Bank rally said US President
Donald Trump, in recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, had
given “Jerusalem to the descendants of pigs and apes.”

These are the people you align yourself with, right?

Wile E. Coyote

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If you don't know, you should kill yourself.

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Wile E. Coyote

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Siri Cruise <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:chine.bleu-
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> In article <Z%o%B.10054$ET6....@fx38.iad>,
> Just Wondering <JustWo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Who cares about the UN vote? Jerusalem IS Israel's capital. Any nation
>
> Why are the wingnuts whining about it?
>

Only the leftards seem upset.

raykeller

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Maybe he thinks the Jews will turn Jerusalem into pig farms and ape farms.

Ah say he is a victim of fake news.





Winston_Smith

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On Sat, 23 Dec 2017 14:25:30 -0000 (UTC), "Wile E. Coyote" wrote:
>raykeller <"ray ray is 100Watt bulb gay"@gayfeller.com> wrote
>> Mr. B1ack wrote on 12/23/2017 2:01 AM:
>>> On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 23:32:02 -0500, gayfeller.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Abstained or absent during UN rebuke of US Jerusalem move? Come party
>>>> with Nikki Haley!
>>>
>>> Shit YEA ! Fuck all you horrible Jew-haters !!!
>>
>> National debt is $21 trillion and counting.

After 0bama ran it up from 8 or 10 trillion to 21. NOW, all of a
sudden, the debt is a big concern to the left, is it?

Ed Huntress

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You deficit spend when the economy is weak or tanking. Then you stop.
When growth meets or exceeds the interest you're paying on debt, you
are stupidly restraining growth if you try to pay debt down at that
time.

Real growth is on EXACTLY the same curve it's been on since the end of
the recession, in late 2009:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/GDPC1

Treasury rates started a steep climb in Oct. or so of 2016, but they
are still lower than the growth rate:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/TB3MS

Now that it's climbing, it's time to stop.

When employment drops below 4.5% or so, unless the Fed is holding the
reins in (they just stopped), you have a risk of inflation. When that
happens, it's time to stop.

But now we're headed for more deficit spending, even with a
strengthening economy. That's not smart. A lot will depend on what
happens to the size of the labor force. It's been flat for a couple of
years, but it's starting to climb. Lately, it's shown signs of rising,
which is to be expected when you have a sustained low unemployment
rate. If it rises, with a very low unemployment rate such as what we
have now, it's time to stop deficit spending.

https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000

Those are basic facts that are neither liberal nor conservative.

So it's time to stop deficit spending, whether you're a liberal or a
conservative economist.

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Winston_Smith <inv...@butterfly.net> wrote in
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Yes and they should kill themselves for thier hypocrisy.

Winston_Smith

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>On Sat, 23 Dec 2017 11:24:29 -0700, Winston_Smith
><inv...@butterfly.net> wrote:


Hey, hey, hey. Ed has un-plonked me. I knew it was too good to be
true.

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"raykeller" <"ray-ray is 100W bulb gay"@gayfeller.com> wrote in message
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Just Wondering wrote on 12/23/2017 4:06 AM:
> On 12/22/2017 9:32 PM, raykeller wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday, the UN General Assembly voted overwhelming in favor of a
>> non-binding resolution declaring US recognition of Jerusalem as Israel?s
>> capital /?null and void.?

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Klaus Schadenfreude wrote on 12/23/2017 9:18 AM:
> On Sat, 23 Dec 2017 06:04:48 -0800, Siri Cruise <chine...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> In article <Z%o%B.10054$ET6....@fx38.iad>,
>> Just Wondering <JustWo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Who cares about the UN vote? Jerusalem IS Israel's capital. Any nation
>> Why are the wingnuts whining about it?
>
> Nasouh al-Ramini is a wingnut?
>
> A Hamas official speaking at a West Bank rally said US President
> Donald Trump, in recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, had
> given ?Jerusalem to the descendants of pigs and apes.?

Just Wondering

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Do you like red herring? Jerusalem is centrally located within
Israel's national borders, and is twice the size of Tel Aviv.

Josh Rosenbluth

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The annexation of Jerusalem is a question of international law and hence
the UN's opinion is relevant.

MattB

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On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 23:32:02 -0500, raykeller <"raykeller is 100Watt
bulb gay"@gayfeller.com> wrote:

>
> Abstained or absent during UN rebuke of US Jerusalem move? Come party
> with Nikki Haley!
>
>
>https://www.rt.com/usa/414008-nikki-haley-un-party-jerusalem/
>
>On Thursday, the UN General Assembly voted overwhelming in favor of a
>non-binding resolution declaring US recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s
>capital /“null and void.”
>/
>
>Before the vote, Haley sent letters to over 180 countries, warning that
>Washington would be /“taking names”/ of those who dared to defy its
>globally-condemned recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital. US
>President Donald Trump went one step further, hinting that disobedient
>nations would have their US aid slashed. /“Let them vote against us.
>We’ll save a lot. We don’t care,”/ said Trump before the vote.
>
>Unmoved by Haley’s name-taking and Trump’s casual extortion, 128 nations
>voted in favor of the resolution. However, much to Haley’s delight,
>eight nations (apart from the United States) voted no, 35 abstained and
>21 were absent.
>
>Haley later sent out invitations to ambassadors of the countries which
>did not approve of the UN resolution to a reception on January 3 to
>thank them for their friendship with the United States, US media
>reported publishing screen-shots of the invitations.
>
> The VIP guest list will include Israel, Guatemala, Honduras,
>Micronesia, Nauru, Palau, the Marshall Islands and Togo – the countries
>that voted no. Australia, Argentina, Canada, Colombia, Croatia, Czech
>Republic, Georgia, Mexico and Ukraine are among the abstaining or absent
>potential party-goers.
>
>

We should cut all aid and use the saved money to help the USA. Also
reduce what we give to the UN.

Why do we owe other governments aid???

If I had my way we would withdraw majority of support for NATO as
well. Let the EU pay for their own defense.

raykeller

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The Zionist Jews pulled a fast one and stole the land from the British and the newly formed United Nations.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positions_on_Jerusalem>

Background


From the end of the Ottoman–Mamluk War in 1517 until the First World War, Jerusalem was part of the Ottoman Empire. Since the 1860s, Jews have formed the largest religious group in the city and since around 1887, Jews have been in the majority.[9] In the 19th century, European powers vied for influence in the city, usually on the basis of extending protection over Christian churches and Holy Places. A number of these countries also established consulates in Jerusalem. In 1917 and following the First World War, Great Britain was in control of Jerusalem; from 1923 as part of the Mandate of Palestine. The principal Allied Powers recognized the unique spiritual and religious interests in Jerusalem among the world's three great monotheistic religions as "a sacred trust of civilization",[10] and stipulated that the existing rights and claims connected with it be safeguarded in perpetuity, under international guarantee.[11]

However, the Arab and Jewish communities in Palestine were in mortal dispute and Britain sought United Nations assistance in resolving the dispute. In November 1947, the United Nations General Assembly adopted the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine (Resolution 181), which called for the partition of Palestine into Arab and Jewish states, with Jerusalem being established as a corpus separatum, or a "separated body" with a special legal and political status, administered by the United Nations.[12] Jewish representatives accepted the plan, while representatives of the Palestinian Arabs and the Arab states rejected it, declaring it illegal.[2]

In May 1948, the Jewish community in Palestine issued the declaration of the establishment of the State of Israel. The new state was quickly recognised de facto by the United States.[13] The United States extended official recognition after the first Israeli election on 31 January 1949.[14][15] Israel became a member of the United Nations on 11 May 1949.[16] The states recognizing Israel did not recognize its sovereignty over Jerusalem generally citing the UN resolutions which called for an international status for the city.[17]



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Then we will have no friends left. Who will clap hands and laugh at
Trump's jokes at UN General Assembly and UN Security Council meetings?





MattB

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Trump only has at the most 3 years left. Though who will replace him
scares me. They seem to get worse every election.

Though I really do believe we should cut or reduce aid to the majority
of countries and spend it within the USA. Maybe upgrade of rail
system.
>
>
>
>

rbowman

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On 12/23/2017 04:17 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
> Do you like red herring? Jerusalem is centrally located within
> Israel's national borders, and is twice the size of Tel Aviv.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli-occupied_territories#West_Bank


Ed Huntress

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Hey, I let you out for Christmas. d8-)

No, that's a joke. In fact, I have one more post I want to make and I
needed to see what you were saying about something. I'll write it next
week.

Meantime, there you were, telling us about economics, without any
facts...'too much to resist.

--
Ed Huntress

Winston_Smith

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On Sat, 23 Dec 2017 20:52:28 -0500, Ed Huntress wrote:
>On Sat, 23 Dec 2017 12:55:56 -0700, Winston_Smith wrote:

>>Hey, hey, hey. Ed has un-plonked me. I knew it was too good to be
>>true.
>
>Hey, I let you out for Christmas. d8-)
>
>No, that's a joke. In fact, I have one more post I want to make and I
>needed to see what you were saying about something. I'll write it next
>week.
>
>Meantime, there you were, telling us about economics, without any
>facts...'too much to resist.

I enjoyed your carefully selected list of liberal sources that support
the way you hope it is. Said it before, I'll say it again, you
certainly do enjoy appeal to authority arguments. In economics one can
find authorities to support whatever BS they care to propagate.

Ed Huntress

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WTF are you talking about now? So you're saying that the St. Louis Fed
and the Bureau of Labor Statistics are "liberal" sources?? So what are
"conservative" sources for those stats?

If you actually read conservative sources, you'd find they use the
same data, because our financial data is considered to be the best and
most accurate in the world. Business and financial people all over the
planet watch those numbers like a hawk for that reason.

You, on the other hand, never seem to have any data. You just make it
all up in your head, to suit your agenda. Then you gripe that you
don't trust the real data -- because you don't know what the facts are
and any facts that contradict the nonsense that goes on between your
ears must be "liberal" data.

At least you could try to come up with some "alternative" facts. Or
maybe some fake news. Those are right-wing specialties, right?

--
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Wile E. Coyote

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raykeller <"ray-ray happy & gay"@gayfeller.com> wrote in
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> Just Wondering wrote on 12/23/2017 6:17 PM:
>> On 12/23/2017 2:27 AM, raykeller wrote:
>>> Just Wondering wrote on 12/23/2017 4:06 AM:
>>>> On 12/22/2017 9:32 PM, raykeller wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, the UN General Assembly voted overwhelming in favor of
>
>>>>> a non-binding resolution declaring US recognition of Jerusalem as
>>>>> Israel�s capital /�null and void.�
>>>>
>>>> Who cares about the UN vote? Jerusalem IS Israel's capital. Any
>>>> nation can decide for itself what its capital is. Israel chose
>>>> Jerusalem as its capital long before Trump came along. The decision
>>>> is not up to a vote by the UN general asses.
>>>
>>> If I "choose" your home as my toilet, am I automatically entitled to
>>> shit in your living room?
>>
>> Do you like red herring? Jerusalem is centrally located within
>> Israel's national borders, and is twice the size of Tel Aviv.
>>
>
> The Zionist Jews pulled a fast one and stole the land from the British
> and the newly formed United Nations.
>
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positions_on_Jerusalem>
>
>
> Background
>
> See also: Timeline of Jerusalem
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Jerusalem>
>
> From the end of the Ottoman–Mamluk War in 1517
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman%E2%80%93Mamluk_War_%281516%E2%80%9
> 317%29>
> until the First World War
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_World_War>, Jerusalem was part of
> the Ottoman Empire <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Empire>. Since
> the 1860s, Jews have formed the largest religious group in the city and
> since around 1887, Jews have been in the majority.^[9]
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positions_on_Jerusalem#cite_note-9> In
> the 19th century, European powers vied for influence in the city,
> usually on the basis of extending protection over Christian churches and
> Holy Places. A number of these countries also established consulates in
> Jerusalem. In 1917 and following the First World War, Great Britain was
> in control of Jerusalem; from 1923 as part of the Mandate of Palestine
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandate_of_Palestine>. The principal
> Allied Powers <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allies_of_World_War_I>
> recognized the unique spiritual and religious interests in Jerusalem
> among the world's three great monotheistic religions
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamic_religions> as "a sacred trust
> of civilization",^[10]
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positions_on_Jerusalem#cite_note-10> and
> stipulated that the existing rights and claims connected with it be
> safeguarded in perpetuity, under international guarantee.^[11]
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positions_on_Jerusalem#cite_note-11>
>
> However, the Arab and Jewish communities in Palestine
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Palestine_%28region
> %29>
> were in mortal dispute and Britain sought United Nations assistance in
> resolving the dispute. In November 1947, the United Nations General
> Assembly <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_General_Assembly>
> adopted the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestin
> e>
> (Resolution 181), which called for the partition of Palestine into Arab
> and Jewish states <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_state>, with
> Jerusalem being established as a /corpus separatum
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpus_separatum_%28Jerusalem%29>/, or a
> "separated body" with a special legal and political status, administered
> by the United Nations.^[12]
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positions_on_Jerusalem#cite_note-12>
> Jewish representatives accepted the plan, while representatives of the
> Palestinian Arabs and the Arab states rejected it, declaring it
> illegal.^[2]
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positions_on_Jerusalem#cite_note-WJ-2>
>
> In May 1948, the Jewish community in Palestine issued the declaration of
> the establishment of the State of Israel
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_Independence_%28Israel%29>.
>
> The new state was quickly recognised
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_Israel> /de
> facto/ by the United States.^[13]
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positions_on_Jerusalem#cite_note-13> The
> United States extended official recognition after the first Israeli
> election
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_legislative_election,_1949> on 31
>
> January 1949.^[14]
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positions_on_Jerusalem#cite_note-14>
> ^[15]
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positions_on_Jerusalem#cite_note-15>
> Israel became a member of the United Nations on 11 May 1949.^[16]
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positions_on_Jerusalem#cite_note-16> The
> states recognizing Israel did not recognize its sovereignty over
> Jerusalem generally citing the UN resolutions which called for an
> international status for the city.^[17]
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positions_on_Jerusalem#cite_note-JQ2005-17
>>
>
> ^
>
>
> --------------AE9664710CD2BD93252C1EDB
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> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
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> <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Just Wondering wrote on 12/23/2017 6:17
> PM:<br>
> </div>
> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:GuB%25B.4459$yr3...@fx13.iad">On
> 12/23/2017 2:27 AM, raykeller wrote:
> <br>
> <blockquote type="cite">Just Wondering wrote on 12/23/2017 4:06
> AM:
> <br>
> <blockquote type="cite">On 12/22/2017 9:32 PM, raykeller wrote:
> <br>
> <blockquote type="cite">
> <br>
> On Thursday, the UN General Assembly voted overwhelming in
> favor of a non-binding resolution declaring US recognition
> of Jerusalem as Israel�s capital /�null and void.�
> <br>
> </blockquote>
> <br>
> Who cares about the UN vote?  Jerusalem IS Israel's
> capital.  Any nation can decide for itself what its capital
> is. Israel chose Jerusalem as its capital long before Trump
> came along.  The decision is not up to a vote by the UN
> general asses. <br>
> </blockquote>
> <br>
> If I "choose" your home as my toilet, am I automatically
> entitled to shit in your living room?
> <br>
> </blockquote>
> <br>
> Do you like red herring?  Jerusalem is centrally located within
> <br>
> Israel's national borders, and is twice the size of Tel Aviv.
> <br>
> <br>
> </blockquote>
> <br>
> The Zionist Jews pulled a fast one and stole the land from the
> British and the newly formed United Nations.<br>
> <br>
> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
> href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positions_on_Jerusalem">&lt;https
> ://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positions_on_Jerusalem&gt;</a><br> <br>
> <h2><font size="-1"><span class="mw-headline"
> id="Background">Background</span></font></h2> <div role="note"
> class="hatnote navigation-not-searchable">See also:
> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Jerusalem"
> title="Timeline of Jerusalem">Timeline of Jerusalem</a></div>
> <br>
> From the end of the <a
> href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman%E2%80%93Mamluk_War_%281516%E2
> %80%9317%29"
> title="Ottoman–Mamluk War (1516–17)">Ottoman–Mamluk War in
> 1517</a>
> until the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_World_War"
> class="mw-redirect" title="First World War">First World War</a>,
> Jerusalem was part of the <a
> href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Empire" title="Ottoman
> Empire">Ottoman Empire</a>. Since the 1860s, Jews have formed the
> largest religious group in the city and since around 1887, Jews have
> been in the majority.<sup id="cite_ref-9" class="reference"><a
> href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positions_on_Jerusalem#cite_n
> ote-9">[9]</a></sup>
> In the 19th century, European powers vied for influence in the city,
> usually on the basis of extending protection over Christian churches
> and Holy Places. A number of these countries also established
> consulates in Jerusalem. In 1917 and following the First World War,
> Great Britain was in control of Jerusalem; from 1923 as part of the
> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandate_of_Palestine"
> class="mw-redirect" title="Mandate of Palestine">Mandate of
> Palestine</a>. The principal <a
> href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allies_of_World_War_I"
> title="Allies of World War I">Allied Powers</a> recognized the
> unique spiritual and religious interests in Jerusalem among the
> world's <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamic_religions"
> title="Abrahamic religions">three great monotheistic religions</a>
> as "a sacred trust of civilization",<sup id="cite_ref-10"
> class="reference"><a
> href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positions_on_Jerusalem#cite_n
> ote-10">[10]</a></sup>
> and stipulated that the existing rights and claims connected with it
> be safeguarded in perpetuity, under international guarantee.<sup
> id="cite_ref-11" class="reference"><a
> href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positions_on_Jerusalem#cite_n
> ote-11">[11]</a></sup>
> <p>However, the Arab and Jewish <a
> href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Palestine_%28r
> egion%29"
> title="Demographic history of Palestine (region)">communities in
> Palestine</a> were in mortal dispute and Britain sought United
> Nations assistance in resolving the dispute. In November 1947, the
> <a
> href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_General_Assemb
> ly" title="United Nations General Assembly">United Nations
> General Assembly</a> adopted the <a
> href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Pal
> estine"
> title="United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine">United
> Nations Partition Plan for Palestine</a> (Resolution 181), which
> called for the partition of Palestine into Arab and <a
> href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_state" title="Jewish
> state">Jewish states</a>, with Jerusalem being established as a
> <i><a
> href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpus_separatum_%28Jerusal
> em%29" title="Corpus separatum (Jerusalem)">corpus
> separatum</a></i>,
> or a "separated body" with a special legal and political status,
> administered by the United Nations.<sup id="cite_ref-12"
> class="reference"><a
> href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positions_on_Jerusalem#cite
> _note-12">[12]</a></sup>
> Jewish representatives accepted the plan, while representatives of
> the Palestinian Arabs and the Arab states rejected it, declaring
> it illegal.<sup id="cite_ref-WJ_2-2" class="reference"><a
> href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positions_on_Jerusalem#cite_note-WJ-2
> ">[2]</a></sup></p>
> <p>In May 1948, the Jewish community in Palestine issued the <a
> href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_Independence_%28Israel
> %29"
> class="mw-redirect" title="Declaration of Independence
> (Israel)">declaration of the establishment of the State of
> Israel</a>. The new state
> was quickly <a
> href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_
> Israel" title="International recognition of
> Israel">recognised</a> <i>de facto</i> by the United States.<sup
> id="cite_ref-13" class="reference"><a
> href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positions_on_Jerusalem#cite
> _note-13">[13]</a></sup>
> The United States extended official recognition after the first <a
> href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_legislative_election,_1949"
> title="Israeli legislative election, 1949">Israeli election</a>
> on 31 January 1949.<sup id="cite_ref-14" class="reference"><a
> href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positions_on_Jerusalem#cite
> _note-14">[14]</a></sup><sup
> id="cite_ref-15" class="reference"><a
> href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positions_on_Jerusalem#cite
> _note-15">[15]</a></sup>
> Israel became a member of the United Nations on 11 May 1949.<sup
> id="cite_ref-16" class="reference"><a
> href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positions_on_Jerusalem#cite
> _note-16">[16]</a></sup>
> The states recognizing Israel did not recognize its sovereignty
> over Jerusalem generally citing the UN resolutions which called
> for an international status for the city.<sup
> id="cite_ref-JQ2005_17-0" class="reference"><a
> href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positions_on_Jerusalem#cite_note-JQ20
> 05-17">[17]</a><br>
> </sup></p>
> <p><sup id="cite_ref-JQ2005_17-0" class="reference"><br>
> <br>
> </sup></p>
> </body>
></html>
>
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And what? That's an excuse for the raghead scumbag barbarians to kill Jews
today? Exterminate the Palestinians, they are like rabid dogs and can't be
cured.

Wile E. Coyote

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<7D...@AbGHc.com> wrote in news:3nC%B.14098$Y21...@fx08.iad:
Who gives a fuck? Let them laugh at themselves and figure out what to do
woithout US leadeship and money. Then who will be laughing?

Wile E. Coyote

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MattB <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in
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4 more years, scumbag. In his second term we will hunt libs to extinction.

MattB

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Dec 24, 2017, 1:35:26 PM12/24/17
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Sounds like something a ANTIFA member would say.

Trump won't get a second term. He has pissed off to many moderates.
The far right lacks the votes.

Then again if the Democrats get a really bad example out there a far
left nutjob guess he could possibly win. I can see the democrats
placing a extreme leftist candidate as their choice.

Red Prepper

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Dec 24, 2017, 1:53:29 PM12/24/17
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It's like the good old days again! My bitches are trying to hump each
other. Good times!

Winston_Smith

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On Sun, 24 Dec 2017 00:56:41 -0500, Ed Huntress wrote:
>On Sat, 23 Dec 2017 21:06:25 -0700, Winston_Smith wrote:

>>I enjoyed your carefully selected list of liberal sources that support
>>the way you hope it is. Said it before, I'll say it again, you
>>certainly do enjoy appeal to authority arguments. In economics one can
>>find authorities to support whatever BS they care to propagate.
>
>WTF are you talking about now? So you're saying that the St. Louis Fed
>and the Bureau of Labor Statistics are "liberal" sources?? So what are
>"conservative" sources for those stats?

The whole idea of a FRB is a liberal idea. A central bank is and a
privately owned central bank is a liberal's wet dream. Is anyone
surprised that a bank wants consumers, companies, and governments to
be perpetually in debt with them siphoning off all that lovely
interest? Anyone surprised their liberal apologists faun at their
sacred pronouncements and quote their line to the great unwashed
sheeples?

No big surprise the liberal deep state's BLS touts the party line
either.

Debt is never a good idea. Sometimes it's necessary, even useful, but
to be incurred with reluctance and paid off as fast as possible.

#BeamMeUpScotty

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Dec 24, 2017, 10:04:58 PM12/24/17
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Actually we'll build terminator drones that will hunt Liberals into
extinction....

--
That's Karma
The *REAL CHILD PREDATORS* are the Democrats who support ABORTION.

Just Wondering

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From that article:
The United States Congress passed the Jerusalem Embassy Act
in 1995, stating that "Jerusalem should be recognized as the
capital of the State of Israel; and the United States Embassy
in Israel should be established in Jerusalem no later than May
31, 1999." As a result of the Embassy Act, official U.S. documents
and web sites refer to Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.
. . .
Israel considers all of Jerusalem to be its capital and sovereign
territory. [99]
[99] "Basic Law: Jerusalem, Capital of Israel (Unofficial
translation) Passed by the Knesset on the 17th Av, 5740
(30th July, 1980) and published in Sefer Ha-Chukkim No.
980 of the 23rd Av, 5740 (5th August, 1980)". Knesset.
2008-08-05. Retrieved 2015-02-20.

From that site:
Basic Law: Jerusalem, Capital of Israel
(Unofficial translation)
Jerusalem, Capital of Israel 1. Jerusalem, complete and
united, is the capital of Israel.
Seat of the President, the Knesset, the Government
and the Supreme Court 2. Jerusalem is the seat of the
President of the State, the Knesset, the Government and
the Supreme Court.


Wile E. Coyote

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MattB <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in
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Nope antifa hates America. I love and want to protect it.

> Trump won't get a second term. He has pissed off to many moderates.
> The far right lacks the votes.

It ain't just "far right" deluded fool. Wait till people start seeing more
money in thier paychecks.

> Then again if the Democrats get a really bad example out there a far
> left nutjob guess he could possibly win. I can see the democrats
> placing a extreme leftist candidate as their choice.
>

All Democrats are far left extremists. You lose.

Wile E. Coyote

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Just Wondering <JustWo...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:Pg%%B.13946$247.6126
@fx40.iad:

> From that article:
> The United States Congress passed the Jerusalem Embassy Act
> in 1995, stating that "Jerusalem should be recognized as the
> capital of the State of Israel; and the United States Embassy
> in Israel should be established in Jerusalem no later than May
> 31, 1999." As a result of the Embassy Act, official U.S. documents
> and web sites refer to Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

Say, wasn;t there a Democrat President when that was signed? I can't quite
remember. Ya think he didn't really mean it and it was a sop?

MattB

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Would they make good target practice.

Scout

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"rbowman" <bow...@montana.com> wrote in message
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Well shit, several nations went to war with Israel and lost, and they think
the victor has to just give them back the territory they lost in the war?

ROTFLMAO....

Yea, let's ignore the overwhelming bulk of human history and law.

To the victor goes the spoils.

Including any land they conquered and chose to make their own.


Scout

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"MattB" <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>> Micronesia, Nauru, Palau, the Marshall Islands and Togo - the countries
>>>> that voted no. Australia, Argentina, Canada, Colombia, Croatia, Czech
>>>> Republic, Georgia, Mexico and Ukraine are among the abstaining or
>>>> absent
>>>> potential party-goers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> We should cut all aid and use the saved money to help the USA. Also
>>> reduce what we give to the UN.
>>>
>>> Why do we owe other governments aid???
>>>
>>> If I had my way we would withdraw majority of support for NATO as
>>> well. Let the EU pay for their own defense.
>>>
>>
>>Then we will have no friends left. Who will clap hands and laugh at
>>Trump's jokes at UN General Assembly and UN Security Council meetings?
>
> Trump only has at the most 3 years left. Though who will replace him
> scares me. They seem to get worse every election.

Well, that's hardly a given. A lot depends on what he's accomplished, and
who he's running against.

So far, I see a lot of people continue to support Trump and even the more
moderate liberals are starting to drift towards support of him.

As such, claiming it's impossible for him to win reelection is as premature
as the claims he couldn't win the 2016 election.



raykeller

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Scout wrote on 12/28/2017 2:18 PM:
>
>
> "rbowman" <bow...@montana.com> wrote in message
> news:fa8c64...@mid.individual.net...
>> On 12/23/2017 04:17 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>>> Do you like red herring? Jerusalem is centrally located within
>>> Israel's national borders, and is twice the size of Tel Aviv.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli-occupied_territories#West_Bank
>
> Well shit, several nations went to war with Israel and lost, and they
> think the victor has to just give them back the territory they lost in
> the war?

They were practically fighting against the USA, the only world power
left standing in the ashes of WWII.

>
> ROTFLMAO....
>
> Yea, let's ignore the overwhelming bulk of human history and law.
>
> To the victor goes the spoils.

Not after the establishment of the UN which is practically created by
the USA, with the USA as the de facto Big Boss (that's why it is in New
York). The UN was working on the British Mandate in the division of the
land of Palestine between the Palestinian Arabs and the Jews. Israel
pulled a fast one and grab it all in 1948.

"British Mandate for Palestine (legal instrument)"

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Mandate_for_Palestine_(legal_instrument)>

Patrick Allen Reedy

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On 12/28/2017 11:18 AM, Scout wrote:
>
>
> "rbowman" <bow...@montana.com> wrote in message
> news:fa8c64...@mid.individual.net...
>> On 12/23/2017 04:17 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>>> Do you like red herring?  Jerusalem is centrally located within
>>> Israel's national borders, and is twice the size of Tel Aviv.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli-occupied_territories#West_Bank
>
> Well shit, several nations went to war with Israel and lost, and they
> think the victor has to just give them back the territory they lost in
> the war?

Israel started the war.

raykeller

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Backed by world-wide Zionist Jewry, especially those in the U.S. with a
lot of money and political influence.








Norman Rae

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LOL! Bullshit. Trump's *base* is even evaporating, and no "moderate
liberals" have moved toward him. His numbers are in the shitter.

Scout

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"raykeller" <"ray-ray happy & gay"@gayfeller.com> wrote in message
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> Scout wrote on 12/28/2017 2:18 PM:
>>
>>
>> "rbowman" <bow...@montana.com> wrote in message
>> news:fa8c64...@mid.individual.net...
>>> On 12/23/2017 04:17 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>>>> Do you like red herring? Jerusalem is centrally located within
>>>> Israel's national borders, and is twice the size of Tel Aviv.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli-occupied_territories#West_Bank
>>
>> Well shit, several nations went to war with Israel and lost, and they
>> think the victor has to just give them back the territory they lost in
>> the war?
>
> They were practically fighting against the USA, the only world power left
> standing in the ashes of WWII.

The war lasted SIX DAYS....we couldn't even get troops there to make any
difference.

Further I can promise you that if the other side had won, they would never
have released any land they took and held back to control of Israel.

So....once again....to the victor goes the spoils. The land is now property
of Israel and theirs to do with as they wish.


Scout

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"Norman Rae" <some...@the.great.beyond> wrote in message
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Would those be the same 'numbers' that said it was impossible for Trump to
be elected?

Oh, and this is based on observation and comments by people I know supported
Trump, and moderate liberals that were weary of Trump. They are seeing
actual meaningful results DESPITE all the opposition being put in his way.
Indeed the reaction of the radical liberals has done much to drive moderate
liberals towards Trump.

But again, it's all going to depend on events almost 3 years from now, and
NO ONE can accurately predict that. Heck, they couldn't even predict the
results the day of the election last time. Suddenly they have improved their
foresight by about 100,000%? I don't think so.


Norman Rae

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No one said it was "impossible". No one expected it is all.

Trump's numbers are falling. This is proved every week.

Scout

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"Patrick Allen Reedy" <p...@tuft.con> wrote in message
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If so, it doesn't change anything.

In reality Syria started the war by bombarding settlements in Israel,
something I think anyone would agree is an act of war. Then you would need
to explain the formation of an invasionary force on the Israel border.
Before you say it was defensive, let me remind you that the UN was order to
remove it's emergency force of military troops from the the area. So clearly
military action was intended and the arabs didn't want the UN in position to
interfere.

In the end though, it doesn't matter who started the war. After all, I would
bet that any land captured by the Arabs would NEVER be returned to Israel
even if you admit they started the war.



raykeller

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Scout wrote on 12/28/2017 5:16 PM:
>
>
> "raykeller" <"ray-ray happy & gay"@gayfeller.com> wrote in message
> news:9Xb1C.477678$S91.4...@fx14.fr7...
>> Scout wrote on 12/28/2017 2:18 PM:
>>>
>>>
>>> "rbowman" <bow...@montana.com> wrote in message
>>> news:fa8c64...@mid.individual.net...
>>>> On 12/23/2017 04:17 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>> Do you like red herring? Jerusalem is centrally located within
>>>>> Israel's national borders, and is twice the size of Tel Aviv.
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli-occupied_territories#West_Bank
>>>
>>> Well shit, several nations went to war with Israel and lost, and they
>>> think the victor has to just give them back the territory they lost in
>>> the war?
>>
>> They were practically fighting against the USA, the only world power
>> left standing in the ashes of WWII.
>
> The war lasted SIX DAYS....we couldn't even get troops there to make any
> difference.

Please pay attention to the word "practically" in my sentence.

Of course the US wasn't fighting Israel's war with American troops, but
the hardware were funded by Uncle Sam and American Jewry.

Even today, the US is paying Israel $3 billion each year as "military aid".

Do you know why OBL chose the Twin Towers in Manhattan and Pentagon as
targets?

They are the American iconic financial and military symbols.

The whole world condemned Israel's illegal occupation of Palestine, but
all the UN resolutions condemning Israel's illegal occupation of
Palestine were vetoed by the U.S. in the United Nations.

This fact was cited by OBL himself in his manifesto delivered to Western
media after 9/11.

"U.N. Security Council: U.S. Vetoes of Resolutions Critical to Israel
(1972 - Present)"

<http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/u-s-vetoes-of-un-security-council-resolutions-critical-to-israel>

>
> Further I can promise you that if the other side had won, they would
> never have released any land they took and held back to control of Israel.
>
> So....once again....to the victor goes the spoils. The land is now
> property of Israel and theirs to do with as they wish.

MattB

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True to a point and also how many people notice how he mainly works
for corporate interest. Only the brain dead believe in trickle down.
Give me a tax cut and I won't hire more people. We hire depending on
demand for our services. Kansas is a example of Trump policies or
Teabagger. Teabagger and liberals are not good for America.

Now he is fucking with the Internet.
>
>So far, I see a lot of people continue to support Trump and even the more
>moderate liberals are starting to drift towards support of him.

OK.

>
>As such, claiming it's impossible for him to win reelection is as premature
>as the claims he couldn't win the 2016 election.

I'm hoping someone more moderate runs against him. Everything he
does is mostly got the corporate elite. With Dems it is not but it
isn't for the middle class either.




>
>

raykeller

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Israel was illegally occupying the land of Palestine. The US, as the de
facto world leader after WWII, refused to uphold justice and collude
with Israel in the illegal occupation.

"British Mandate for Palestine (legal instrument)"

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Mandate_for_Palestine_(legal_instrument)>


> After all, I
> would bet that any land captured by the Arabs would NEVER be returned to
> Israel even if you admit they started the war.

The Arabs were merely trying to uphold the British Mandate for
Palestine. The Zionist Jews should have negotiated with the Palestinian
Arabs to partition Palestine (under British rule after the fall of
Ottoman Empire) into a Jewish state and a Palestinian state in the UN
instead of pulling a fast one and stole the whole land under the nose of
the British and the UN.



Patrick Allen Reedy

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On 12/28/2017 2:26 PM, Scout wrote:
>
>
> "Patrick Allen Reedy" <p...@tuft.con> wrote in message
> news:iwc1C.305637$oE2.1...@fx33.iad...
>> On 12/28/2017 11:18 AM, Scout wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "rbowman" <bow...@montana.com> wrote in message
>>> news:fa8c64...@mid.individual.net...
>>>> On 12/23/2017 04:17 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>> Do you like red herring?  Jerusalem is centrally located within
>>>>> Israel's national borders, and is twice the size of Tel Aviv.
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli-occupied_territories#West_Bank
>>>
>>> Well shit, several nations went to war with Israel and lost, and they
>>> think the victor has to just give them back the territory they lost
>>> in the war?
>>
>> Israel started the war.
>
> If so, it doesn't change anything.

It changes everything. Seizing land in a war of aggression is illegal
under any consideration of international law.

raykeller

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So is robbing a bank. It is illegal as hell.




#BeamMeUpScotty

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Until Democrats Put another Hillary up for office and then the numbers
shift....



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Gunner Asch

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On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 14:21:58 -0500, "Scout"
<me4...@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> wrote:

>
>
True indeed. Frankly..we have another 7 yrs of Trump..then a likely
8 yrs of Pence. Or 8 yrs of Nickey Haley....who is likely to be the
First woman president.


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Harlan Banks

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No. Probably not even another year.

Gunner Asch

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On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 14:51:24 -0500, raykeller <"ray-ray happy &
gay"@gayfeller.com> wrote:

>Scout wrote on 12/28/2017 2:18 PM:
>>
>>
>> "rbowman" <bow...@montana.com> wrote in message
>> news:fa8c64...@mid.individual.net...
>>> On 12/23/2017 04:17 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>>>> Do you like red herring? Jerusalem is centrally located within
>>>> Israel's national borders, and is twice the size of Tel Aviv.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli-occupied_territories#West_Bank
>>
>> Well shit, several nations went to war with Israel and lost, and they
>> think the victor has to just give them back the territory they lost in
>> the war?
>
>They were practically fighting against the USA, the only world power
>left standing in the ashes of WWII.

Oh look at the Commie lie like a fucking rug.!!
>
>>
>> ROTFLMAO....
>>
>> Yea, let's ignore the overwhelming bulk of human history and law.
>>
>> To the victor goes the spoils.
>
>Not after the establishment of the UN which is practically created by
>the USA, with the USA as the de facto Big Boss (that's why it is in New
>York). The UN was working on the British Mandate in the division of the
>land of Palestine between the Palestinian Arabs and the Jews. Israel
>pulled a fast one and grab it all in 1948.
>
>"British Mandate for Palestine (legal instrument)"
>
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Mandate_for_Palestine_(legal_instrument)>

So how wells that working out for you...hummmmm????

Laughlaughlaughlaughlaugh!!


>
>
>
>>
>> Including any land they conquered and chose to make their own.
>>
>>

Gunner Asch

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On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 18:16:16 -0500, raykeller <"ray-ray happy &
gay"@gayfeller.com> wrote:

>>
>> In the end though, it doesn't matter who started the war.
>
>Israel was illegally occupying the land of Palestine. The US, as the de
>facto world leader after WWII, refused to uphold justice and collude
>with Israel in the illegal occupation.
>
>"British Mandate for Palestine (legal instrument)"


Laugh laugh laugh..so hows that working out for you..you raghead sheep
fucker.....

MattB

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On Tue, 26 Dec 2017 17:28:37 -0000 (UTC), "Wile E. Coyote"
<nuke_them_...@sulaco.com> wrote:

>MattB <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in
>news:6st24dd5uuemp4in7...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 07:10:48 -0000 (UTC), "Wile E. Coyote"
>> OK I support the Constitution. The far right and far left are
>> enemies of the Constitution.
>
>No you don't. You're antigun, pro high tax, pro handouts to leeches.

Nope not anti gun. Nope not pro high tax just very much anti debt.
Nope not pro handout just not anti help for the elderly and disabled.
The abled bodied should be limited.
>
>>>
>>>> Trump won't get a second term. He has pissed off to many moderates.
>>>> The far right lacks the votes.
>>>
>>>It ain't just "far right" deluded fool. Wait till people start seeing
>more
>>>money in thier paychecks.
>>
>> Many will be watching the debt and see if the clams are true that the
>> next step is to start hurting people and cutting programs. Say it is
>> necessary because of the debt.
>
>Fuck you. You get nothing to say about teh debt scumbag.You oh si happily
>jerked off while it doubled under the jug eared nigger.

Actually don't like such a high debt. Just the interest we pay every
year would do much to fix our infrastructure.
>
>Your real fear is that things will get better and people will hunt libs
>with dogs.

No not to worried. If attacked by a teabagger just give them a head
shot. Same for the ANTIFA
>
>>>
>>>> Then again if the Democrats get a really bad example out there a far
>>>> left nutjob guess he could possibly win. I can see the democrats
>>>> placing a extreme leftist candidate as their choice.
>>>>
>>>
>>>All Democrats are far left extremists. You lose.
>>
>> No that isn't true, Teabaggers and the far left/liberals are actually
>> much alike extremist with a side of crazy.
>
>TEA baggers? You fucking bigot. And you wonder why we want to kill you.
>You're nothing but trash.

YAWN you are a pussy I would say. That and a idiot.

You see a mob of your kind or the ANTFA type aim for the head.

Teabaggers and the far left/liberals are actually
much alike extremist with a side of crazy. If this makes me a bigot
then I am proud of it.

MattB

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On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 17:52:48 -0800, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Actually I believe you will be lucky to keep the Congress next
election.

Trump has lost contact with the middle class.

Just Wondering

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On 12/28/2017 6:52 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 14:21:58 -0500, "Scout" wrote:
>
>> So far, I see a lot of people continue to support Trump and even the more
>> moderate liberals are starting to drift towards support of him.
>> As such, claiming it's impossible for him to win reelection is as premature
>> as the claims he couldn't win the 2016 election.
>>
> True indeed. Frankly..we have another 7 yrs of Trump..then a likely
> 8 yrs of Pence. Or 8 yrs of Nickey Haley....who is likely to be the
> First woman president.

I suspect that Trump won't WANT a second term.

Rudy Canoza

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Trump likely will be out of office before 2020.

Wile E. Coyote

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MattB <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in
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Excellent, the Civil War edges closer. You will not survive.

--
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Coulter.

Siri Cruise <chine...@yahoo.com> April 25, 2017

MattB

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On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 19:46:01 -0000 (UTC), "Wile E. Coyote"
ROFL.

Wile E. Coyote

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MattB <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in
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More like LOFCOYOB.

MattB

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On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 21:57:40 -0000 (UTC), "Wile E. Coyote"
No idea what that means.

Scout

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"raykeller" <"ray-ray happy & gay"@gayfeller.com> wrote in message
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> Scout wrote on 12/28/2017 5:16 PM:
>>
>>
>> "raykeller" <"ray-ray happy & gay"@gayfeller.com> wrote in message
>> news:9Xb1C.477678$S91.4...@fx14.fr7...
>>> Scout wrote on 12/28/2017 2:18 PM:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "rbowman" <bow...@montana.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:fa8c64...@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> On 12/23/2017 04:17 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>> Do you like red herring? Jerusalem is centrally located within
>>>>>> Israel's national borders, and is twice the size of Tel Aviv.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli-occupied_territories#West_Bank
>>>>
>>>> Well shit, several nations went to war with Israel and lost, and they
>>>> think the victor has to just give them back the territory they lost in
>>>> the war?
>>>
>>> They were practically fighting against the USA, the only world power
>>> left standing in the ashes of WWII.
>>
>> The war lasted SIX DAYS....we couldn't even get troops there to make any
>> difference.
>
> Please pay attention to the word "practically" in my sentence.
>
> Of course the US wasn't fighting Israel's war with American troops, but
> the hardware were funded by Uncle Sam and American Jewry.

Wow, then we must be practically involved in every conflict that manages to
involve US made hardware.

Sorry, just because we have hardware there doesn't make us involved.

>
> Even today, the US is paying Israel $3 billion each year as "military
> aid".

Which they clearly need given the ongoing hostility of their neighbors.

> Do you know why OBL chose the Twin Towers in Manhattan and Pentagon as
> targets?
>
> They are the American iconic financial and military symbols.

They aren't military symbols........so you're wandering out into the
weeds.....looks like a good place to end it before you go totally out into
LaLa Land.


Scout

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"raykeller" <"ray-ray happy & gay"@gayfeller.com> wrote in message
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Then why didn't the British do something about it while they were in charge?

>
> "British Mandate for Palestine (legal instrument)"
>
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Mandate_for_Palestine_(legal_instrument)>

Oh, that's right, they must have also been involved.

>> After all, I
>> would bet that any land captured by the Arabs would NEVER be returned to
>> Israel even if you admit they started the war.
>
> The Arabs were merely trying to uphold the British Mandate for Palestine.

How could they be upholding a Mandate that had expired?



Klaus Schadenfreude

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On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 01:05:57 -0500, "Scout"
<me4...@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> wrote:

>
>
>"raykeller" <"ray-ray happy & gay"@gayfeller.com> wrote in message
>news:iIe1C.325900$Pi3.2...@fx24.fr7...
>> Scout wrote on 12/28/2017 5:16 PM:
>>>
>>>
>>> "raykeller" <"ray-ray happy & gay"@gayfeller.com> wrote in message
>>> news:9Xb1C.477678$S91.4...@fx14.fr7...
>>>> Scout wrote on 12/28/2017 2:18 PM:

>>> The war lasted SIX DAYS....we couldn't even get troops there to make any
>>> difference.
>>
>> Please pay attention to the word "practically" in my sentence.
>>
>> Of course the US wasn't fighting Israel's war with American troops, but
>> the hardware were funded by Uncle Sam and American Jewry.
>
>Wow, then we must be practically involved in every conflict that manages to
>involve US made hardware.
>
>Sorry, just because we have hardware there doesn't make us involved.

Just out of curiosity, what was the other side using? Sticks?

rbowman

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The Pentagon isn't a military symbol? Is it a Wiccan symbol?

Scout

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"Norman Rae" <some...@the.great.beyond> wrote in message
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Just as they were falling just before the 2016 election.....

Oh, and clearly if no one expected it as a possibility, then they really
didn't know what they were talking about, now did they?


Scout

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"MattB" <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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AT&T $1000 bonus to 200,000 workers after the corporate rate was cut.

Sure....trickle down doesn't happen. The economy isn't improving. Millions
of jobs being created. No increased investments in starting, expanding or
otherwise increasing the number of size of businesses?


> Give me a tax cut and I won't hire more people.

Really? You wouldn't want to make more money by expanding your company?

Must explain why you don't own a business.

> We hire depending on
> demand for our services.

Which has been going up since Trump's been elected. But hey, you're not
going to expand your business to take advantage of the increased demand
because you're going to show Trump you didn't need him.

> Kansas is a example of Trump policies or
> Teabagger. Teabagger and liberals are not good for America.

How exactly is Kansas an example of that?

Would that make Detroit an example of Obama policies or Liberal?



> Now he is fucking with the Internet.

By undoing the rules change made by Obama in 2015?

Yea, I can see much the internet has changed in 2 years. I mean we use to
have to carry the data home in a bucket through blinding snow, walking
uphill....both ways.



>>So far, I see a lot of people continue to support Trump and even the more
>>moderate liberals are starting to drift towards support of him.
>
> OK.
>
>>
>>As such, claiming it's impossible for him to win reelection is as
>>premature
>>as the claims he couldn't win the 2016 election.
>
> I'm hoping someone more moderate runs against him. Everything he
> does is mostly got the corporate elite. With Dems it is not but it
> isn't for the middle class either.

Interesting, since I seem to recall a tax cut that directly cut the tax rate
of the middle class...but I don't suppose we should allow facts to get in
the way of your rants.

It's enough to note that under Trump the stock market has a set a record for
the number of new highs. Unemployment is the lowest it's been in 17 years,
and over 2 million jobs have been created..... Clearly NONE of that will do
anything for the middle class.


Scout

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"MattB" <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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And Democrats have some?????

ROTFLMAO....


Scout

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"Harlan Banks" <a.terr...@dummies.con> wrote in message
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Bet you a $1,000 that on Jan 1, 2019 President Trump will still be in
office.



raykeller

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You fucking idiot!! You cannot sell an F-16 to Israel. Only Uncle Sam can.


>
>>
>> Even today, the US is paying Israel $3 billion each year as "military
>> aid".
>
> Which they clearly need given the ongoing hostility of their neighbors.
>

Al Capone also needed military aid because of the ongoing hostility of
his Chicago neighbors. Why didn't Uncle Sam give him tanks and F-16s?



>> Do you know why OBL chose the Twin Towers in Manhattan and Pentagon as
>> targets?
>>
>> They are the American iconic financial and military symbols.
>
> They aren't military symbols...

The World Trade Center is financial symbol, while the Pentagon is
military symbol, you fucking idiot.

raykeller

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raykeller

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Zionist Jews defied the UN and stole the land. The whole world tried to
get it back through legal means but all the UN resolutions to that end
were blocked by the US through its veto power, while the US pretended to
be the mediator to broker a peace deal between Israel and the Palestinians.

"The 43 times US has used veto power against UN resolutions on Israel"

<http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/42-times-us-has-used-its-veto-power-against-un-resolutions-israel-942194703>

"U.N. Security Council: U.S. Vetoes of Resolutions Critical to Israel
(1972 - Present)"

<http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/u-s-vetoes-of-un-security-council-resolutions-critical-to-israel>










Chris Voigtlander

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Public relations - period. My firm did it, too, in the same amount.
After taxes, I'll net about $450. I intend to spend it on frivolities,
as it's a tiny windfall only.

>
>> Give me a tax cut and I won't hire more people.
>
> Really? You wouldn't want to make more money by expanding your company?

The tax cut has *no bearing* on the profitability of expanding the
business. If he is already at the profit maximizing amount of
production in his firm, the tax cut won't change that.

Pity you never studied even elementary economics.

>> We hire depending on
>> demand for our services.
>
> Which has been going up since Trump's been elected.

No.

>> Kansas is a example of Trump policies or
>> Teabagger.  Teabagger and liberals are not good for America.
>
> How exactly is Kansas an example of that?

Tax cuts that ruined the state fiscally.

>
>> Now he is fucking with the Internet.
>
> By undoing the rules change made by Obama in 2015?

The elimination of "net neutrality" rules, which were a bogus solution
to a non-existent problem, will have no effect.

>>> So far, I see a lot of people continue to support Trump and even the
>>> more
>>> moderate liberals are starting to drift towards support of him.
>>
>> OK.
>>
>>>
>>> As such, claiming it's impossible for him to win reelection is as
>>> premature
>>> as the claims he couldn't win the 2016 election.
>>
>> I'm hoping someone more moderate runs against him.   Everything he
>> does is mostly got the corporate elite.  With Dems it is not but it
>> isn't for the middle class either.
>
> Interesting, since I seem to recall a tax cut that directly cut the tax
> rate of the middle class

*Mostly* this tax cut reduced the taxes paid by extremely rich people.
There is very little for the middle class.

Norman Rae

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No, they were steady.

MattB

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On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 21:24:36 -0500, "Scout"
Then it wasn't going to happen before? I suspect more mergers and
less competition.
>
>
>> Give me a tax cut and I won't hire more people.
>
>Really? You wouldn't want to make more money by expanding your company?

Hiring more people only makes money if the demand is there for the
services they provide. Hiring people to push a broom in a circle
makes me no profit.
>
>Must explain why you don't own a business.

Can you provide evidence or is this another Trump idiot lying. Maybe
I own part of a company?
>
>> We hire depending on
>> demand for our services.
>
>Which has been going up since Trump's been elected. But hey, you're not
>going to expand your business to take advantage of the increased demand
>because you're going to show Trump you didn't need him.

It was going up before he was elected. Try again.
>
>> Kansas is a example of Trump policies or
>> Teabagger. Teabagger and liberals are not good for America.
>
>How exactly is Kansas an example of that?

Taxes cut and then no funds to pay for current services.
>
>Would that make Detroit an example of Obama policies or Liberal?

Detroit was failing long time before Obama.

I'd say south side or West Chicago and maybe Baltimore are results of
Obama and liberal policies.
>
>
>
>> Now he is fucking with the Internet.
>
>By undoing the rules change made by Obama in 2015?

A change the lying Trump says were not necessary. If they weren't
hurting anything what did they harm..
>
>Yea, I can see much the internet has changed in 2 years. I mean we use to
>have to carry the data home in a bucket through blinding snow, walking
>uphill....both ways.

Republican party no longer serves the middle class only works to
increase profits for the corporate interest. Wonder who is the real
master of the GOP.
>
>
>
>>>So far, I see a lot of people continue to support Trump and even the more
>>>moderate liberals are starting to drift towards support of him.
>>
>> OK.
>>
>>>
>>>As such, claiming it's impossible for him to win reelection is as
>>>premature
>>>as the claims he couldn't win the 2016 election.
>>
>> I'm hoping someone more moderate runs against him. Everything he
>> does is mostly got the corporate elite. With Dems it is not but it
>> isn't for the middle class either.
>
>Interesting, since I seem to recall a tax cut that directly cut the tax rate
>of the middle class...but I don't suppose we should allow facts to get in
>the way of your rants.

Yes and with the change in deductibles it turns out to not be as much
as Trump claims. Look at the who picture and long term results. Then
look at the real effect on the debt. Expect the GOP to go after
services next but not the services that effect their power over
everything. They talk smaller government but only as it serves
corporate interest.

We really need a moderate in office.
>
>It's enough to note that under Trump the stock market has a set a record for
>the number of new highs. Unemployment is the lowest it's been in 17 years,
>and over 2 million jobs have been created..... Clearly NONE of that will do
>anything for the middle class.

The stock market is in a bubble and will either burst or is die for a
major correction. Again the people Trump serves will get advanced
warning and the middle class will again lose so much of there
retirement funds. Could be similar to Enron and for the same reason.
>

MattB

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Very true.
That is how I see it as well.

MattB

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On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 21:28:59 -0500, "Scout"
Didn't say that I have said over and over we need a moderate in
office. You've been brainwashed boy. As much as WY and his bunch.

I find it strange how instead of trying to make things actually better
you just say the other side a worse. Yes we steal from the you but
not as much as they do. Sorry I want no one to steal from me.
Corporations or socialist.
>

Scout

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"Chris Voigtlander" <jacque.idiot.pal@number.2> wrote in message
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If you got the money then it's more than public relations. However you want
to slice it...the savings DID trickle down to you....and your spending it
means it will trickle down to others, who will trickle it down to yet
others...and SOB the economy is picking up........and there is more revenue
for the government.



Scout

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"raykeller" <"ray-ray happy & gay"@gayfeller.com> wrote in message
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And thus you change the subject.

I will note that Israel is a member NATION of the UN....and the US couldn't
use it's veto power to make that happen.


Scout

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"MattB" <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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We have one.



Scout

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"MattB" <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Well, I'm sorry you formed a business that can't manage to find more demand
in an expanding economy.

What do you make? Buggy whips? Maybe it's time to consider changing your
business?


Chris Voigtlander

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It's public relations. They only did it because it would have looked
too bad if they didn't do it.

Scout

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"Chris Voigtlander" <jacque.idiot.pal@number.2> wrote in message
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Did you get the money?

If you did, then trickle down works.

And it's interesting that just days before the bill was signed into law,
public relations wasn't enough.


MattB

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On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 23:56:41 -0500, "Scout"
We are pretty much maxed out.
>
>What do you make? Buggy whips? Maybe it's time to consider changing your
>business?

No does well.
>

MattB

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On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 23:57:19 -0500, "Scout"
I almost choked on that. I gave Trump a chance and he has proven to
basically be a Teabagger with bad hair.

No I do not like Kansas style Teabaggers or flaming liberals.


>
>

Chris Voigtlander

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I did get the public relations stunt money. I didn't give it back, either.

raykeller

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Read the shit again. Pay attention and try to understand this time:

Gunner Asch

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On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 01:05:57 -0500, "Scout"
<me4...@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> wrote:

>
>
>"raykeller" <"ray-ray happy & gay"@gayfeller.com> wrote in message
>news:iIe1C.325900$Pi3.2...@fx24.fr7...
>> Scout wrote on 12/28/2017 5:16 PM:
>>>
>>>
>>> "raykeller" <"ray-ray happy & gay"@gayfeller.com> wrote in message
>>> news:9Xb1C.477678$S91.4...@fx14.fr7...
>>>> Scout wrote on 12/28/2017 2:18 PM:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "rbowman" <bow...@montana.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:fa8c64...@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>> On 12/23/2017 04:17 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>>> Do you like red herring? Jerusalem is centrally located within
>>>>>>> Israel's national borders, and is twice the size of Tel Aviv.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli-occupied_territories#West_Bank
>>>>>
>>>>> Well shit, several nations went to war with Israel and lost, and they
>>>>> think the victor has to just give them back the territory they lost in
>>>>> the war?
>>>>
>>>> They were practically fighting against the USA, the only world power
>>>> left standing in the ashes of WWII.
>>>
>>> The war lasted SIX DAYS....we couldn't even get troops there to make any
>>> difference.
>>
>> Please pay attention to the word "practically" in my sentence.
>>
>> Of course the US wasn't fighting Israel's war with American troops, but
>> the hardware were funded by Uncle Sam and American Jewry.
>
>Wow, then we must be practically involved in every conflict that manages to
>involve US made hardware.
>
>Sorry, just because we have hardware there doesn't make us involved.
>
>>
>> Even today, the US is paying Israel $3 billion each year as "military
>> aid".
>
>Which they clearly need given the ongoing hostility of their neighbors.
>
>> Do you know why OBL chose the Twin Towers in Manhattan and Pentagon as
>> targets?
>>
>> They are the American iconic financial and military symbols.
>
>They aren't military symbols........so you're wandering out into the
>weeds.....looks like a good place to end it before you go totally out into
>LaLa Land.
>

Far far too late for that....



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Gunner Asch

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On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 01:07:51 -0500, "Scout"
<me4...@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> wrote:

>
>
>"raykeller" <"ray-ray happy & gay"@gayfeller.com> wrote in message
>news:cXe1C.334719$ll3.1...@fx12.fr7...
>> Scout wrote on 12/28/2017 5:26 PM:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Patrick Allen Reedy" <p...@tuft.con> wrote in message
>>> news:iwc1C.305637$oE2.1...@fx33.iad...
>>>> On 12/28/2017 11:18 AM, Scout wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "rbowman" <bow...@montana.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:fa8c64...@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>> On 12/23/2017 04:17 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>>> Do you like red herring? Jerusalem is centrally located within
>>>>>>> Israel's national borders, and is twice the size of Tel Aviv.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli-occupied_territories#West_Bank
>>>>>
>>>>> Well shit, several nations went to war with Israel and lost, and they
>>>>> think the victor has to just give them back the territory they lost
>>>>> in the war?
>>>>
>>>> Israel started the war.
>>>
>>> If so, it doesn't change anything.
>>>
>>> In reality Syria started the war by bombarding settlements in Israel,
>>> something I think anyone would agree is an act of war. Then you would
>>> need to explain the formation of an invasionary force on the Israel
>>> border. Before you say it was defensive, let me remind you that the UN
>>> was order to remove it's emergency force of military troops from the the
>>> area. So clearly military action was intended and the arabs didn't want
>>> the UN in position to interfere.
>>>
>>> In the end though, it doesn't matter who started the war.
>>
>> Israel was illegally occupying the land of Palestine. The US, as the de
>> facto world leader after WWII, refused to uphold justice and collude with
>> Israel in the illegal occupation.
>
>Then why didn't the British do something about it while they were in charge?
>
>>
>> "British Mandate for Palestine (legal instrument)"
>>
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Mandate_for_Palestine_(legal_instrument)>
>
>Oh, that's right, they must have also been involved.
>
>>> After all, I
>>> would bet that any land captured by the Arabs would NEVER be returned to
>>> Israel even if you admit they started the war.
>>
>> The Arabs were merely trying to uphold the British Mandate for Palestine.
>
>How could they be upholding a Mandate that had expired?
>
>
http://www.historytoday.com/david-motadel/muslims-hitlers-war

The arabs were always on the side of good....snerk

Gunner Asch

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Dec 30, 2017, 2:08:45 AM12/30/17
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Sad that its the best he can do.

>
>I will note that Israel is a member NATION of the UN....and the US couldn't
>use it's veto power to make that happen.
>

Gunner Asch

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Trumps numbers will continue to fall through both of his terms as
president.

(VBG)

Gunner Asch

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On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 19:24:43 -0800, Chris Voigtlander
<jacque.idiot.pal@number.2> wrote:

>>
>>> Now he is fucking with the Internet.
>>
>> By undoing the rules change made by Obama in 2015?
>
>The elimination of "net neutrality" rules, which were a bogus solution
>to a non-existent problem, will have no effect.

So why did it get brought up?
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