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Greg Goss

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Dec 20, 2010, 9:09:03 PM12/20/10
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I've long promoted the idea of in-group quotes as shibboleths. But
now I discover that I only know a tiny fraction of those codes. I'm
gradually turning into an outsider.

Here is a site that features the image, name, and content of famous
geek quotes. And I only know a tiny fraction of the quotes,
characters or images.
http://www.geekosystem.com/trollquotes-troll-geeks/
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Tomorrow is today already.
Greg Goss, 1989-01-27

Hactar

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Dec 20, 2010, 10:32:33 PM12/20/10
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In article <8naghl...@mid.individual.net>,

Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
> I've long promoted the idea of in-group quotes as shibboleths. But
> now I discover that I only know a tiny fraction of those codes. I'm
> gradually turning into an outsider.
>
> Here is a site that features the image, name, and content of famous
> geek quotes. And I only know a tiny fraction of the quotes,
> characters or images.
> http://www.geekosystem.com/trollquotes-troll-geeks/

orig. Yoda
1. Spock? I didn't see the movies.
2. Some video game
3. Terminator, 1st movie
8. Homer Simpson
9. Either He-Man, or some song.
10. Dunno, but it sounds like The Goonies.
13. The scientist dude in "Back to the Future", end of the second(?) movie
14. Daleks
16. Captain Picard (nice troll)
17. three guys on crosses at the end of "Life of Brian"
21. Since "Doctor" is capitalized, I'm going to guess "Dr. Who". But I
couldn't tell you who or when.
22. Carl Sagan (I think).
25. Adam Savage
29. X-Files
30. Snakes on a Plane
31. The Joker?
32. That scrawled guy who almost but not quite curses.

So, I got between 0 and 17 right.

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do a bunch of stuff and then go back to sleep. -- Weird Al

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Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
> I've long promoted the idea of in-group quotes as shibboleths. But
> now I discover that I only know a tiny fraction of those codes. I'm
> gradually turning into an outsider.
>
> Here is a site that features the image, name, and content of famous
> geek quotes. And I only know a tiny fraction of the quotes,
> characters or images.
> http://www.geekosystem.com/trollquotes-troll-geeks/

It's a little-known fact that Starfleet Captain James T. Kirk's middle
name was actually 'Timmy'.

--
Huey

K_S_ONeill

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Dec 20, 2010, 11:52:41 PM12/20/10
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On Dec 20, 9:32Ā pm, ebenZERO...@verizon.net (Hactar) wrote:
> In article <8naghlF9k...@mid.individual.net>,

> Greg Goss Ā <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
>
> > I've long promoted the idea of in-group quotes as shibboleths. Ā But
> > now I discover that I only know a tiny fraction of those codes. Ā I'm
> > gradually turning into an outsider.
>
> > Here is a site that features the image, name, and content of famous
> > geek quotes. Ā And I only know a tiny fraction of the quotes,
> > characters or images.
> >http://www.geekosystem.com/trollquotes-troll-geeks/
>
> orig. Yoda
> 1. Spock? Ā I didn't see the movies.
Isn't that Spiderman?

> 2. Some video game
It was an internet meme based on a supposed video game mistranslation,
or something. I think most people knew it through the song and video.

> 3. Terminator, 1st movie

6. John Locke, Lost

7. Neal Stephenson

> 8. Homer Simpson

> 9. Either He-Man, or some song.

> 10. Dunno, but it sounds like The Goonies.

> 13. The scientist dude in "Back to the Future", end of the second(?) movie

I think it's a song too.

> 14. Daleks

15. That Shakespeare guy.

> 16. Captain Picard (nice troll)

> 17. three guys on crosses at the end of "Life of Brian"

20. Penny Arcade

> 21. Since "Doctor" is capitalized, I'm going to guess "Dr. Who". Ā But I
couldn't tell you who or when.

> 22. Carl Sagan (I think).

> 25. Adam Savage

26. My mom, when I was six. It's nice of them to include that.

27. Angel

> 29. X-Files

> 30. Snakes on a Plane

> 31. The Joker?

> 32. That scrawled guy who almost but not quite curses.
>
> So, I got between 0 and 17 right.

I think a lot of them are video games, which I don't spend a lot of
time playing.

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Kevin

Mark Steese

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Dec 20, 2010, 11:57:44 PM12/20/10
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ebenZ...@verizon.net (Hactar) wrote in news:hnj5u7-...@pc.home:

> In article <8naghl...@mid.individual.net>,
> Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
>> I've long promoted the idea of in-group quotes as shibboleths. But
>> now I discover that I only know a tiny fraction of those codes. I'm
>> gradually turning into an outsider.
>>
>> Here is a site that features the image, name, and content of famous
>> geek quotes. And I only know a tiny fraction of the quotes,
>> characters or images.
>> http://www.geekosystem.com/trollquotes-troll-geeks/
>
> orig. Yoda

It's more complex than that. The image attributes the quote to
Dumbledore, but shows Ian McKellen as Gandalf.

> 1. Spock? I didn't see the movies.

It's from the first Spider-Man movie (and originally from the comic).
The character depicted is The Punisher.

> 2. Some video game

The quote is from the infamous original English translation of the Zero
Wing opening; dunno who the character is.

> 3. Terminator, 1st movie

Yup. And the quote is attributed to Rambo, but the image is Bruce Willis
as John McClane.

> 8. Homer Simpson

Yup. And the pic is the main character from "American Dad," not Peter
Griffin.

> 9. Either He-Man, or some song.

It's He-Man. The joke is that one cheesy 80's cartoon character's
catchphrase is attributed to another cheesy 80's character (Lion-O from
"Thundercats") and illustrated by a third (Captain Planet).

> 10. Dunno, but it sounds like The Goonies.
> 13. The scientist dude in "Back to the Future", end of the second(?)
> movie

First movie. And the image is from "Troop Beverly Hills," and I am
deeply ashamed that I know that.

> 14. Daleks

And the monster shown is a Slitheen, not a Cyberman.

> 16. Captain Picard (nice troll)
> 17. three guys on crosses at the end of "Life of Brian"

And the guy in the picture is Ricky Gervais, not Eddie Izzard.

> 21. Since "Doctor" is capitalized, I'm going to guess "Dr. Who". But
> I couldn't tell you who or when.

Rose Tyler in the two-parter "The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances"; the
woman in the picture is Martha Jones, who was the next companion after
Rose, and the quote is attributed to the current companion, Amy Pond,
and yes, I am pathetic, thanks.

> 22. Carl Sagan (I think).

The guy in the picture is Neil DeGrasse Tyson, not Stephen Hawking.

> 25. Adam Savage

That's a *very* nerdy in-joke: Adam Savage, Wil Wheaton, and the two
guys pictured (whose names I forget) travel around the country doing
comedy shows.

> 29. X-Files

And the pic is from Torchwood, not Men in Black.

> 30. Snakes on a Plane

Good lord! That's not Snakes on a Plane, that's what Indiana Jones says
when he looks into the Well of Souls in "Raiders of the Lost Ark." (The
quote is attributed to the protagonist of the "National Treasure"
movies; I dunno who the guy in the picture is.)

> 31. The Joker?

Yes, but not the Cesar Romero Joker, the Heath Ledger one.

> 32. That scrawled guy who almost but not quite curses.
>
> So, I got between 0 and 17 right.

Aside from the ones mentioned above, the only other one I recognized
completely is No. 6, which is a "Lost" troll (the quotation is from John
Locke (later repeated by the Smoke Monster), not Ben Linus; the picture
is of James "Sawyer" Ford). In No. 12, "Pika Pika" is what Pikachu from
"PokƩmon" says, though I don't recognize either the character in the
image or "Blue Eyes White Dragon." No. 15 is a picture of Disney's
"Hercules"; the quotation (more accurately "Faint heart never won fair
lady") was presumably spoken by a character in another Disney cartoon,
dunno which one.

I imagine it would be easy to track down the other references using
Google, but that would be cheating.
--
Experts insist that the reason these switches go bad is because they're
hardly ever used. In other words, the less wear a switch gets the
quicker it wears out. That's difficult to believe, but so are a lot of
things. -Dereck Williamson

Hactar

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Dec 21, 2010, 12:26:05 AM12/21/10
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In article <Xns9E54D53...@85.214.73.210>,

Mark Steese <mark_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> ebenZ...@verizon.net (Hactar) wrote in news:hnj5u7-...@pc.home:
>
> > In article <8naghl...@mid.individual.net>,
> > Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
> >> I've long promoted the idea of in-group quotes as shibboleths. But
> >> now I discover that I only know a tiny fraction of those codes. I'm
> >> gradually turning into an outsider.
> >>
> >> Here is a site that features the image, name, and content of famous
> >> geek quotes. And I only know a tiny fraction of the quotes,
> >> characters or images.
> >> http://www.geekosystem.com/trollquotes-troll-geeks/
> >
> > 30. Snakes on a Plane
>
> Good lord! That's not Snakes on a Plane, that's what Indiana Jones says
> when he looks into the Well of Souls in "Raiders of the Lost Ark." (The
> quote is attributed to the protagonist of the "National Treasure"
> movies; I dunno who the guy in the picture is.)

Did you hear that? It was my Nerd Card bursting into flame.

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Hactar

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Dec 21, 2010, 12:30:19 AM12/21/10
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In article <pb6dnRXKi-uAsY3Q...@speakeasy.net>,

Like heck it does. "T" stands for "Troll".

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John Hatpin

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Dec 21, 2010, 1:25:40 AM12/21/10
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On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 19:09:03 -0700, Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:

>I've long promoted the idea of in-group quotes as shibboleths. But
>now I discover that I only know a tiny fraction of those codes. I'm
>gradually turning into an outsider.
>
>Here is a site that features the image, name, and content of famous
>geek quotes. And I only know a tiny fraction of the quotes,
>characters or images.
>http://www.geekosystem.com/trollquotes-troll-geeks/

[Replying without reading ahead]

It looks to me like there's a deliberate mismatch between the quote,
the person it's attributed to and the picture. Presumably, that's the
"troll" part - to annoy geeks by getting these references wrong.

Here's how badly I understand them, which should cheer you up:

0 ("Do or do not"). I don't know the quote. The picture is Gandalf
(Ian McWhatsit?), and maybe the attribution is Dumbledore, someone
from the Harry Potter movies who, I think, is a bit like Gandalf.

1 ("With great power ..."). I know the quote, of course - though not
who said it - and I know of Batman. I don't know the picture.

2 ("All your base ..."). Know the quote and (roughly) its origins, but
the frog picture and "Mass Effect" mean nothing to me.

3 ("Come with me ..."). I think I get the three here - the quote is
from Terminator (I or II), not Rambo, although Stallone and
Schwarzenegger are similar; the picture is, I think, Bruce Willis,
another celeb luvvie who favours Rambo-like roles.

4 ("Beware the cows! ..."). Haven't a clue about any of this one.

5 ("The cake is a lie"). The phrase means nothing to me. I'd guess the
photo is a real photo of an early computer; HAL-9000 I know.

6 ("Don't tell me ..."). No idea. Wasn't that guy in Lord of the Rings
or something? Boromir?

7 ("To condense fact ..."). Nope.

8 ("D'oh!"). Quote is from The Simpsons (Homer's "annoyed grunt");
picture is from (I think) (The?) Family Guy. I don't know who Peter
Griffin is, or what the connection is.

9 ("I have the power ..."). Nope.

10 ("Goonies never say die ..."). Nope.

Oh, it's 32. I thought it was 10. Nevermind, I'll speed up and finish.

11. Nope.

12. Not a clue.

13. "Roads? Where we're going ..." I think I recognise, having seen it
quoted somewhere recently - isn't it from Back to the Future? Blazing
Saddles I know; the photo I don't. The connection? Comedy movies?

14. "Exterminate!" is the Daleks. The Cybermen were different Dr Who
foes. I don't recognise the picture.

15. "Faint hearts never won..." I know, but not who said it. The
picture is some character in a Disney cartoon, maybe Hercules or
something. Yeah, and Tarzan was strong too.

16. "Make it so" was Picard's, but the picture is Kirk. Don't know who
Janeway is.

17. "Always look on the bright side" is Python, of course - the
picture is Ricky Gervais, and Eddie Izzard is Eddie Izzard. The
connection is British comedians.

18. "You stay". Is that a Transformer in the picture? And isn't
Optimus Prime a robot? Or another Transformer? Or a snazzy PC
keyboard? Dunno.

19. Sonic the Hedgehog is some character from some 8-bit game. That's
all I know.

20. No clue.

21. "The world doesn't end". Is this another Doctor Who thing? Isn't
the picture of one of his assistants? I'll guess that the quote and
the attribution refer to another two of them. Dr Who's assistants.

22. "If you wish to make an apple pie" rings a bell, but I don't know
who said it. The pic is a guy whose name I've forgotten - very
entertaining NASA guy - Stephen Hawking, blah, must be astrophysics.

23. Not a clue.

24. Nope.

25. Not a sausage.

26. Bugger all.

27. Well, I've heard of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. That's all.

28. Nope.

29. Ah - "The Truth is Out There" is from the X-Files; MiB I know, but
not the photo. I'll guess it's semi-comedy scifi TV/film.

30. "Snakes" is Indiana Jones. Don't know the pic, and the name's not
familar other than in its constituent parts.

31. "Why so serious?" This is Batman stuff - wasn't that the Joker?
The Riddler was another Batman foe, but I don't know who the picture
is.

32. I'm familiar with teh "FUUUUUU-" cartoons, and the cartoons
featuring the pictured character - both very crudely drawn but
sometimes amusing. "Forever Alone" is a comic I first encountered a
couple of days ago about a kid who's always alone, and is very
sketchily drawn. So, crudely drawn comics.

I'll read the others now. I don't suppose I'm the worst, due to my
internet addiction and well-worn StumbleUpon membership, but I'm still
a long way short of the target demographic.
--
John Hatpin

Peter Ward

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Greg Goss says...

>
> I've long promoted the idea of in-group quotes as shibboleths. But
> now I discover that I only know a tiny fraction of those codes. I'm
> gradually turning into an outsider.
>
> Here is a site that features the image, name, and content of famous
> geek quotes. And I only know a tiny fraction of the quotes,
> characters or images.
> http://www.geekosystem.com/trollquotes-troll-geeks/

????????????

What's the point of it? Does it even have one?

--

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I'm an alien
email: usenet at peterward dot adsl24 dot co dot uk
http://blowinsmoke.wordpress.com/
There's no need to think when you can google.
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Lee Ayrton

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Dec 21, 2010, 9:59:56 AM12/21/10
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On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 04:57:44 +0000, Mark Steese wrote:


>> 3. Terminator, 1st movie
>
> Yup. And the quote is attributed to Rambo, but the image is Bruce Willis
> as John McClane.

The quote may have appeared in the first movie, but as a popular
catchphrase it came from Ahnold's delivery in the second movie.

That's image #4, by the way. The numbers are at the bottom left of the
image, but the whitespace puts them closer to the next image down. "It
is a bad design."

Lee Ayrton

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Dec 21, 2010, 10:01:05 AM12/21/10
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Terwillaker, surely.


David J. Martin

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Dec 21, 2010, 10:44:44 AM12/21/10
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Nope. If you look at the first one it's clear that the numbering is top
left.

David

huey.c...@gmail.com

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Peter Ward <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> Greg Goss says...
> > I've long promoted the idea of in-group quotes as shibboleths. But
> > now I discover that I only know a tiny fraction of those codes. I'm
> > gradually turning into an outsider.
> >
> > Here is a site that features the image, name, and content of famous
> > geek quotes. And I only know a tiny fraction of the quotes,
> > characters or images.
> > http://www.geekosystem.com/trollquotes-troll-geeks/
>
> ????????????
>
> What's the point of it? Does it even have one?

The point of it is that the quotes, attributions, and images are all
completely wrong, which given the propensity of the modern internet
geek (homo calculus) to correct things[1], will force a response.
Actions taken to force a response in this fashion are known as 'trolling'.

[1] http://xkcd.com/386/

--
Huey

Lee Ayrton

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Dec 21, 2010, 11:40:27 AM12/21/10
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Dang. You're right and I was mistaken.

I regret the error.


art...@yahoo.com

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Dec 21, 2010, 11:59:55 AM12/21/10
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On Dec 20, 9:09Ā pm, Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
> I've long promoted the idea of in-group quotes as shibboleths. Ā But
> now I discover that I only know a tiny fraction of those codes. Ā I'm
> gradually turning into an outsider.
>
> Here is a site that features the image, name, and content of famous
> geek quotes. Ā And I only know a tiny fraction of the quotes,
> characters or images.http://www.geekosystem.com/trollquotes-troll-geeks/

Somehow I parsed the subject line as "Greek Trilobites"

Greg Goss

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Dec 21, 2010, 12:34:51 PM12/21/10
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John Hatpin <inv...@invalid.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 19:09:03 -0700, Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
>
>>http://www.geekosystem.com/trollquotes-troll-geeks/
>
>[Replying without reading ahead]

When you do, Mark owned the list.

>
>It looks to me like there's a deliberate mismatch between the quote,
>the person it's attributed to and the picture. Presumably, that's the
>"troll" part - to annoy geeks by getting these references wrong.
>
>Here's how badly I understand them, which should cheer you up:
>
>0 ("Do or do not"). I don't know the quote. The picture is Gandalf
>(Ian McWhatsit?), and maybe the attribution is Dumbledore, someone
>from the Harry Potter movies who, I think, is a bit like Gandalf.

The picture is Gandalf. The attribution is Dumbledore. The actual
quote is one of my favourite geeky shibboleths -- I'm surprised you
don't know it from me here in this group -- Yoda in Star Wars 5 (or 2
as I still think of it).

>8 ("D'oh!"). Quote is from The Simpsons (Homer's "annoyed grunt");
>picture is from (I think) (The?) Family Guy. I don't know who Peter
>Griffin is, or what the connection is.

As Mark pointed out in a message you haven't read yet, the picture is
from "American Dad". Griffin is the family guy you thought he was.


>13. "Roads? Where we're going ..." I think I recognise, having seen it
>quoted somewhere recently - isn't it from Back to the Future? Blazing
>Saddles I know; the photo I don't. The connection? Comedy movies?

I hang my head for missing this one. With the Blazing Saddles, I
hooked into "Batches!" and no longer had any chance of recognizing it.
Well constructed troll.

>16. "Make it so" was Picard's, but the picture is Kirk. Don't know who
>Janeway is.

Janeway was the captain in the fourth Star Trek series -- the third
series that actually had a captain.


>31. "Why so serious?" This is Batman stuff - wasn't that the Joker?
>The Riddler was another Batman foe, but I don't know who the picture
>is.

As Mark pointed out, it's the WRONG Joker.

Greg Goss

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"art...@yahoo.com" <art...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Nope. Girl Genius starts from Romania, not Greece, and is still too
new to show up in lists like this.

Veronique

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Dec 21, 2010, 12:37:51 PM12/21/10
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That's WRONG.


V.
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Mac

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Dec 21, 2010, 12:58:18 PM12/21/10
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That's only if you take "greek" as an adjective.

Peter Ward

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huey.c...@gmail.com says...

It has no point, then. It's not big, and it's not clever.

> [1] http://xkcd.com/386/

An old favourite.

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either proven right or pleasantly surprised.
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Mark Steese

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Lee Ayrton <lay...@panix.nul> wrote in
news:ieqfdb$d0r$1...@reader1.panix.com:

> On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 04:57:44 +0000, Mark Steese wrote:
>
>>> 3. Terminator, 1st movie
>>
>> Yup. And the quote is attributed to Rambo, but the image is Bruce
>> Willis as John McClane.
>
> The quote may have appeared in the first movie, but as a popular
> catchphrase it came from Ahnold's delivery in the second movie.

Huh. I seem to recall people using it before the second movie came out;
the scene in which Arnie tells the desk sergeant at the police station
"I'll be beck," leaves, and crashes a car through the front of the
station a few seconds later, left an indelible impression on me, but I
didn't even remember when he said it in the second movie - I had to look it
up. And it seems to me that when people imitate it, they're imitating his
delivery from the first movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o1QMSwDYU8
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darkon

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Lee Ayrton <lay...@panix.nul> wrote:

Nah. It was the well-known Greek philosopher, Testicles.

darkon

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John Hatpin <inv...@invalid.net> wrote:

> 7 ("To condense fact ..."). Nope.

The quote is from Neal Stephenson's _Snow Crash_, and the picture is of
William Gibson, perhaps best-known for _Neuromancer_.

I recognize bits and pieces of some of the others, but lack the
interest to post more.

Lee Ayrton

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Dec 21, 2010, 3:53:55 PM12/21/10
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On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 18:33:59 +0000, Mark Steese wrote:

> Lee Ayrton <lay...@panix.nul> wrote in
> news:ieqfdb$d0r$1...@reader1.panix.com:
>
>> On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 04:57:44 +0000, Mark Steese wrote:
>>
>>>> 3. Terminator, 1st movie
>>>
>>> Yup. And the quote is attributed to Rambo, but the image is Bruce
>>> Willis as John McClane.
>>
>> The quote may have appeared in the first movie, but as a popular
>> catchphrase it came from Ahnold's delivery in the second movie.
>
> Huh. I seem to recall people using it before the second movie came out;
> the scene in which Arnie tells the desk sergeant at the police station
> "I'll be beck," leaves, and crashes a car through the front of the
> station a few seconds later, left an indelible impression on me, but I
> didn't even remember when he said it in the second movie - I had to look
> it up. And it seems to me that when people imitate it, they're imitating
> his delivery from the first movie:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o1QMSwDYU8


"come with me if you want to live" from the over-wrought first movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eleoJabi2os


The quotable delivery from the second movie -- because it plays against
the first:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCyjDcxjnqY


Which made enough of an impression that it was parodied (sequence begins
at 2:00):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qnq7N6X4x84

Charles Wm. Dimmick

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Isn't that how you determine whether a girl is ticklish? You give her a
testtickle?

Mark Steese

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Peter Ward <m...@privacy.net> wrote in
news:MPG.277afcde7...@news.eternal-september.org:

> huey.c...@gmail.com says...
>>
>> Peter Ward <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>> > Greg Goss says...
>> > > I've long promoted the idea of in-group quotes as shibboleths.
>> > > But now I discover that I only know a tiny fraction of those
>> > > codes. I'm gradually turning into an outsider.
>> > >
>> > > Here is a site that features the image, name, and content of
>> > > famous geek quotes. And I only know a tiny fraction of the
>> > > quotes, characters or images.
>> > > http://www.geekosystem.com/trollquotes-troll-geeks/
>> >
>> > ????????????
>> >
>> > What's the point of it? Does it even have one?
>>
>> The point of it is that the quotes, attributions, and images are all
>> completely wrong, which given the propensity of the modern internet
>> geek (homo calculus) to correct things[1], will force a response.
>> Actions taken to force a response in this fashion are known as
>> 'trolling'.
>
> It has no point, then. It's not big, and it's not clever.

Its point is to provide amusement to the poster by provoking people into
complaining about it without realizing that that's what the poster
wanted them to do. Admittedly, provoking newsgroup posters into
complaint is about as difficult as finding something bad to watch on
television, but some people are easily amused.

In a meta sort of way, complaining that a troll is pointless is more
amusing than simply trying to correct it.
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Mark Steese

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Lee Ayrton <lay...@panix.nul> wrote in
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Well, yeah, but that's "Come with me if you want to live," not "I'll be
back." I agree that the former is better known from the second movie,
but I still believe the latter is better known from the first.

(And none of the Terminator movies are what you'd call underwrought.)

John Hatpin

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I'd say its point is simply to amuse. I don't think the images are
designed to be used to troll other people, just to be chuckled at.
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John Hatpin

Peter Ward

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John Hatpin says...

But it says right at the top that it's a troll, not to mention the URL
giving the game away somewhat. That rather spoils the effect, doesn't
it?

> >In a meta sort of way, complaining that a troll is pointless is more
> >amusing than simply trying to correct it.

It's not a real troll.



> I'd say its point is simply to amuse. I don't think the images are
> designed to be used to troll other people, just to be chuckled at.

I don't see anything amusing about it either. Just cobbling together
incorrectly attributed quotes with incorrect pictures is just random
nonsense.

"This must be Thursday, I never could get the hang of Thursdays."
- Terry Pratchett

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Lesmond

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Dec 21, 2010, 10:09:27 PM12/21/10
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I agree with you. And I'll bet that James Thomas Kirk does, too.

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Lesmond

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On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 12:27:37 -0000, Peter Ward wrote:

>Greg Goss says...
>>
>> I've long promoted the idea of in-group quotes as shibboleths. But
>> now I discover that I only know a tiny fraction of those codes. I'm
>> gradually turning into an outsider.
>>
>> Here is a site that features the image, name, and content of famous
>> geek quotes. And I only know a tiny fraction of the quotes,
>> characters or images.
>> http://www.geekosystem.com/trollquotes-troll-geeks/
>
>????????????
>
>What's the point of it? Does it even have one?

The point seems to be to attach a well known quote to a picture that has
nothing to do with such quote. I don't know. I guess someone out there
thinks it's funny.

Lesmond

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On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 22:32:33 -0500, Hactar wrote:

>30. Snakes on a Plane

You're doing this deliberately, aren't you?

Lesmond

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On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 06:25:40 +0000, John Hatpin wrote:

>On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 19:09:03 -0700, Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
>
>>I've long promoted the idea of in-group quotes as shibboleths. But
>>now I discover that I only know a tiny fraction of those codes. I'm
>>gradually turning into an outsider.
>>
>>Here is a site that features the image, name, and content of famous
>>geek quotes. And I only know a tiny fraction of the quotes,
>>characters or images.
>>http://www.geekosystem.com/trollquotes-troll-geeks/
>

>[Replying without reading ahead]


>
>It looks to me like there's a deliberate mismatch between the quote,
>the person it's attributed to and the picture. Presumably, that's the
>"troll" part - to annoy geeks by getting these references wrong.
>
>Here's how badly I understand them, which should cheer you up:
>
>0 ("Do or do not"). I don't know the quote. The picture is Gandalf
>(Ian McWhatsit?), and maybe the attribution is Dumbledore, someone
>from the Harry Potter movies who, I think, is a bit like Gandalf.

You're doing this deliberately, aren't you?

Lesmond

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On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 04:57:44 +0000 (UTC), Mark Steese wrote:

>ebenZ...@verizon.net (Hactar) wrote in news:hnj5u7-...@pc.home:
>
>> In article <8naghl...@mid.individual.net>,


>> Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
>>> I've long promoted the idea of in-group quotes as shibboleths. But
>>> now I discover that I only know a tiny fraction of those codes. I'm
>>> gradually turning into an outsider.
>>>
>>> Here is a site that features the image, name, and content of famous
>>> geek quotes. And I only know a tiny fraction of the quotes,
>>> characters or images.
>>> http://www.geekosystem.com/trollquotes-troll-geeks/
>>

>> orig. Yoda
>
>It's more complex than that. The image attributes the quote to
>Dumbledore, but shows Ian McKellen as Gandalf.
>
>> 1. Spock? I didn't see the movies.
>
>It's from the first Spider-Man movie (and originally from the comic).
>The character depicted is The Punisher.
>
>> 2. Some video game
>
>The quote is from the infamous original English translation of the Zero
>Wing opening; dunno who the character is.


>
>> 3. Terminator, 1st movie
>
>Yup. And the quote is attributed to Rambo, but the image is Bruce Willis
>as John McClane.
>

>> 8. Homer Simpson
>
>Yup. And the pic is the main character from "American Dad," not Peter
>Griffin.
>
>> 9. Either He-Man, or some song.
>
>It's He-Man. The joke is that one cheesy 80's cartoon character's
>catchphrase is attributed to another cheesy 80's character (Lion-O from
>"Thundercats") and illustrated by a third (Captain Planet).
>
>> 10. Dunno, but it sounds like The Goonies.
>> 13. The scientist dude in "Back to the Future", end of the second(?)
>> movie
>
>First movie. And the image is from "Troop Beverly Hills," and I am
>deeply ashamed that I know that.
>
>> 14. Daleks
>
>And the monster shown is a Slitheen, not a Cyberman.
>
>> 16. Captain Picard (nice troll)
>> 17. three guys on crosses at the end of "Life of Brian"
>
>And the guy in the picture is Ricky Gervais, not Eddie Izzard.
>
>> 21. Since "Doctor" is capitalized, I'm going to guess "Dr. Who". But
>> I couldn't tell you who or when.
>
>Rose Tyler in the two-parter "The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances"; the
>woman in the picture is Martha Jones, who was the next companion after
>Rose, and the quote is attributed to the current companion, Amy Pond,
>and yes, I am pathetic, thanks.
>
>> 22. Carl Sagan (I think).
>
>The guy in the picture is Neil DeGrasse Tyson, not Stephen Hawking.
>
>> 25. Adam Savage
>
>That's a *very* nerdy in-joke: Adam Savage, Wil Wheaton, and the two
>guys pictured (whose names I forget) travel around the country doing
>comedy shows.
>
>> 29. X-Files
>
>And the pic is from Torchwood, not Men in Black.


>
>> 30. Snakes on a Plane
>

>Good lord! That's not Snakes on a Plane, that's what Indiana Jones says
>when he looks into the Well of Souls in "Raiders of the Lost Ark." (The
>quote is attributed to the protagonist of the "National Treasure"
>movies; I dunno who the guy in the picture is.)
>
>> 31. The Joker?
>
>Yes, but not the Cesar Romero Joker, the Heath Ledger one.
>
>> 32. That scrawled guy who almost but not quite curses.
>>
>> So, I got between 0 and 17 right.
>
>Aside from the ones mentioned above, the only other one I recognized
>completely is No. 6, which is a "Lost" troll (the quotation is from John
>Locke (later repeated by the Smoke Monster), not Ben Linus; the picture
>is of James "Sawyer" Ford). In No. 12, "Pika Pika" is what Pikachu from
>"Pokā€šmon" says, though I don't recognize either the character in the
>image or "Blue Eyes White Dragon." No. 15 is a picture of Disney's
>"Hercules"; the quotation (more accurately "Faint heart never won fair
>lady") was presumably spoken by a character in another Disney cartoon,
>dunno which one.
>
>I imagine it would be easy to track down the other references using
>Google, but that would be cheating.

I don't know if I could love you more.

Greg Goss

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"Lesmond" <les...@verizon.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 22:32:33 -0500, Hactar wrote:
>
>>30. Snakes on a Plane
>
>You're doing this deliberately, aren't you?

I guess the thread title invites it, wouldn't it.

Greg Goss

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"Lesmond" <les...@verizon.net> wrote:

>>What's the point of it? Does it even have one?
>
>The point seems to be to attach a well known quote to a picture that has
>nothing to do with such quote. I don't know. I guess someone out there
>thinks it's funny.

I enjoyed it. The face and name were chosen to be plausible sources
for the quote, unless you were already familiar with it.

John Hatpin

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On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 23:59:21 -0700, Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:

>"Lesmond" <les...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>>What's the point of it? Does it even have one?
>>
>>The point seems to be to attach a well known quote to a picture that has
>>nothing to do with such quote. I don't know. I guess someone out there
>>thinks it's funny.
>
>I enjoyed it. The face and name were chosen to be plausible sources
>for the quote, unless you were already familiar with it.

I'm with Greg on this. The majority was incomprehensible to me, but
the bits I understood I enjoyed.
--
John Hatpin

Mac

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On Wed, 22 Dec 2010 12:26:02 +0000, John Hatpin <inv...@invalid.net>
wrote:

I liked the way they completely exhaused the available quotes; all the
rest would have had to have pictures of Mark Twain, Chrurchill,
Kippling and Wilde.

AN "That Shakespear guy? His work is just a pararde of cliches!" McC

Hactar

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In article <6de4h6pe49uuba330...@4ax.com>,

You wouldn't think so had you heard it the original Klingon.

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Jesper Lauridsen

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On 2010-12-22, Peter Ward <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> John Hatpin says...

>
>> I'd say its point is simply to amuse. I don't think the images are
>> designed to be used to troll other people, just to be chuckled at.
>
> I don't see anything amusing about it either. Just cobbling together
> incorrectly attributed quotes with incorrect pictures is just random
> nonsense.

It's far from random. The 3 characters chosen all have a connection,
something in common. That's what's amusing.

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