Trying to understand
Cassandre
I've been working to translate Catherene Night Pöe's website in French
because I found her vision quite different from what we can read about
Vampires...I wanted to use it to create a French web ressource and
maybe virtually meet real Vampires. My aim is only knowing and
understanding, I neither want to become a vampire nor a Source.
I came across your FAQ about her and the announcement of her death, so
ok I know what you do think about her.
But now, what reliable source do you suggest to work on ? I still want
to translate parts of her work explaining what others think about her
too, but I would like to give some pieces of information to make
people think. And me, with them ;-).
I know the reality of Psychic Vampires what I need is information
about blood vampires, needing blood to survive.
If some of you want to speak in private, I would be happy to read some
testimonies and publish them on the website without your names of
course. I will not claim what you said to be the truth, it will just
be "what I've heard".
You do not know me and you do not have to trust me, just do what you
think is fair.
I thank you very much for your help and hope we can be
enlightened ;-)...
Cassandre
Chilla
> Hi everybody if there are still people reading this newsgroup,
>
Hi Cassandre,
A link to the website in question would be the first port of call.
It's great that you don't want to become a vampire, as they're fictional.
The reality of all vampires is that they are figments.
It's a delusion when people think they are vampires, as they have fallen
so far into their fantasy that it can become a psychosis.
No one survives off peoples mind energy, the way a psychic vampire works
is that they believe they feel good by taking energy from others, when
in actuality they're doing nothing to others.
Vampires that survive of blood, or need blood to get energy... well
that's a fantasy too.
People cannot survive off blood alone, you can die very quickly on a
diet of pure blood.
The blood sex is not vampirism at all. Some people gain pleasure by
adding blood to their games, whether by drinking it or smearing it.
The fantasy of the vampire is three fold :-
1. Vampires stay young forever
2. Vampires never die
3. Vampires are superior to "normal" humans.
Point three is the main point.
A so-called vampire has an inferiority complex, and wants to be "better"
than normal people. Hence they circum to a fantasy.
I saw this one person that said he was a vampire, wore black Edwardian
clothes, even a top hat. He was a Goth poser, and this is what a lot of
"vampires" are.
I have no problem with fantasy, it's just when the fantasy becomes a
delusion, that's when things go pear-shaped.
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If you want to know about the mythology of vampires, I have plenty of
resources to give you if you want them.
Regards Charles
Cassandre
Actually I have my own culture about fictionnal Vampires, thank you
for your help.
Usually, I do not believe what I read or see in movies. I am actually
a druid, and i experienced many times the mouvement of energy, even if
the feelings are very very subtle ones. For me everybody can become a
psychic vampire with practice. I think it's as bad for the vampire as
for the people who he drains energy from but I do think it is a
reality.
It would need a lot of work to feel it, most people does not.
From the other hand, blood vampires might not exist, because I do not
know anything about them in reality But when i do not know something,
I do not say it does not exist.
I do not know, that's all.
Yet, I am not trying to convince anyone, you have your view, I have
mine ;-).
Thank you for the time you spent for me,
Regards,
Cassandre
Chilla
A modern Druid, I know a few, I don't know any that truly follow the
ancient ways (too barbaric, and human sacrifice is frowned upon these
days). Parts of Stone Henge are truly evil for truly evil things
happened there.
Are you referring to emotional vampires? If you are this is a person
that off loads all their baggage onto you, and you feel drained after
the fact. You can feel better telling people your troubles, and you can
take on board people's troubles and feel flattened. This definitely not
a supernatural experience.
I've had contacted with a few psychic vampires, and all seem to be
wannabee's. I've had people stand in front of me trying to take my
energy. They can't do it, even when I said feel free.
Psychic vampirism, couldn't work, even in a mystical sense. You'd know
this from being a Druid. You cannot take energy, it has to be given.
This is where belief vs science comes in.
Belief is accepting something without proof.
Science in accepting observed facts.
In my previous post we discussed that people "believed" that they were
vampires.
Observation proves that they are "ordinary" people involved in a fantasy.
I prefer to challenge the beliefs, or to get the people to admit it is a
belief. Belief is fine in my books, it's when that belief is touted as
fact, that's when I have to correct them.
Regards Charles
Keeper 2
interested in. Though many folks do not believe in paranormal and like
to call it fantasy, there are a lot of us that know all too well the
reality of such things. Since I was a young girl I was an Abductee,
was my entire life since approximately the age of 4. I didn’t know it
until I became awakened to it much later on in life. Suddenly I found
out there are a race of what I call Reptilians that have the EXACT
characteristics as what legends and lore call Vampires and I know
first hand that they are actual real beings. Many do as well. I have
written over 60,000 posts over the last 5 years on very large groups
and forums with Doctors, Scholars, Scientists and what have you, and
many of them know the truth about ET races... These particular
Reptilian ET's that I speak of are Shape-Shifters... They can even
when they wish have red eyes that glow... Usually for me though I see
them in human form and they do not usually shift into other forms
unless very angry, or having sexual contact, and even then it is based
on their intention of emotion... And anyway, may I suggest you look
around and consider that Vampires could very well be real, it’s just
what ever from they wish to take, and what ever works for them to
enter in and YES YES YES there is most definitely A Psychic Vampire...
And I'm not talking about an emotional needy draining of energy person
as Charles said... Nope... Not at all... Most all ET’s and Paranormal
beings do have an ability to drain energy. I have written thousands of
posts on this topic and my research is extensive on it as well. But
they use our energy as a sort of battery charge for their own limited
light source that dwindles quite regularly due to the dark that they
follow after. May I suggest you follow your instincts and they will
never steer you wrong. Don’t listen to others, not even me, but go
within and you will find your answers. An example of how Reptilians
and Vampires are so similar is for one, they are Psychic Vampires, and
they also use Trance to put their captive under, even at times
paralysis... 2.) They both need your energy to survive, The Vampire
needing blood could very well be both literal and psychic for even in
Ancient writing terms, "The Life Is In The Blood" , that is even in
Biblical accounts and yes Reptilians have been known to thrive off of
blood.. If read David Icke's books and Movies, Even Arizona Wilders
movies that David Icke has put out, you will find a slew of
information to get you started. Even Shaman Credo Mutwa and his movies
of exposing Reptilians, their agenda and also their need for blood at
times, hence, it’s very easy to see the correlation between this race
of ET and Vampires. 3.) Both Vampires and Reptilians have High
appetites for Sex, and that also is an energy sucking thing, they
literally take your energy through the act. In fact there are many
many articles written on this, by some scholars and contactee/
abductee's alike. The sexual act is energy; in fact sexual union is
one of the most powerful energy sources you can imagine... They can
set off the Kundalini energy which can be harnessed and used for what
ever they set their mind to use it for. Both Light and Dark know the
power of Sexual energy where as the Dark use it for charging their own
dimming energy source due to the path they choose to follow after, and
also on the other hand where light use it to merge two souls together,
which connects them directly to Source Creator in the most
unbelievable union and energy nothing on earth could compare to. So
much of what you are seeking to find answers to you may find in
researching the net. I have many sources that I have gone to over the
last many years and have put in literally thousands of hours of my
time and I am a writer and have shared much from what I have learned
and not just what I have learned from others experiences, but my own
very powerful ones. Also the Vampire and the Reptilian can put dream-
scapes within the mind of their victim, making them think what ever it
is they wish their victim to think. This is another parallel to the
two. 5.) Many Reptilians have been seen in rituals that mimic satanic
behavior and they also wear black a lot when shifted into human form.
YES it’s all true. There are countless stories and testimony including
my own about these encounters. The thing is when it comes to Sexual
Energy, this is one of the biggest ways they take over a person, first
the Trance and then the Sexual mating, and through that, so long as
you never completely surrender over your spirit you are not in total
captivity to them, however, you can learn ways to block both real
Vampire/Entities and also Psychic Vampire Entities, which to me is one
in the same because they are always using Psychic senses to take over,
or put into trance, or to pull out life force from their victims.
There is hope. And though they are put in a romantic light, they are
not al that romantic in reality, though they can come as one that
looks like a Handsome or Beautiful Greek Fallen God, they can also
shift into something not very romantic at all. It’s like playing fire
with ones soul. If you do get involved in researching this out, please
use a Shield of Light and surround yourself with it and never let your
romantic pulling on your heart to be used by them as you do research
this out, or else you might find out you bit off more then you can
chew.. No pun intended. I do agree to a point with Charles about the
wantabee's out there and most of them are, but in the paranormal
realms they are very very real... Those that suck blood and want the
experience to be real may find themselves just pretending in order to
make up for some lost childhood of feeling important etc... However,
if you go research many authors out there that have exposed the
Reptilians you will find over time that the parallel to the Reptilians
and Vampires is almost exact... Think of them as shape-shifters. Even
Native American Elders have talked about Shape-Shifting and how it has
been done for eons through light, but there are ones that do it with
dark energy. AS the Vampire can shift into a literal bat, so the
Reptilian can shift into any form they like. I have personally seen
Reptilians and have been raped by them, with physical injury and my
personal experience is documented, and they are very real, they like I
said usually show in human form... And they feed off you, literally
because you are their Light source to survive. And with David Icke and
so many authors out there, Jordan Maxwell by the way got David Icke
going on this but with all the authors out there you will find that
there is blood involved in the sexual rituals as well, and not just
sexual but in other ways too. Anyway, take care... hope your quest
though is a safe one. Being I am a writer all my writings are
copyright. protected, I am in the process of writing some books
including Vampire ones. But also non fiction on this topic.
copyright © Jewels December 28, 2009
Chilla
The paranormal is something that we cannot explain.
Alien abduction is a mental condition in the brain, and it feel very
real. IT is something that we can explain.
This condition can be reproduced by us, by applying the force from
strong magnets to the cranium.
This will induce one of two fantasies, that of near death experience,
and one of alien abduction. Thus far any subject can be made to
experience one of these.
You have written some wonderful fiction, and it's up there with
Hubbard's work in Scientology (which is pure fiction btw). It is pulp
fiction though.
Belief in extraterrestrial is simply that, a belief, it's a modern
religion that started in the 1950's as a cover up for military aircraft,
during the cold war. Maybe you should become a Ralien?
Personally I like to believe that there are aliens, however there is no
proof, and any evidence thus far has proven to be pure misdirection...
the work of charlatans.
Like the Pocket Wombat, none of these creatures exist.
If you actually believe what you write, you have my sympathies. Rape is
never a nice thing whether it really happened, or whether your mind
contrived it.
You do sound like you have had a psychotic break, fed by you association
with people that feed your delusions.
I have stood in front of people claiming many things, Psychic Vampires
are the most amusing. They look at you squinting, and putting a lot of
mental effort in the pursuit of your "life energy"... it's quite
amusing. They are often disappointed that they can't effect me in any way.
The blood drinking vampires, are also funny. Usually they look like a
cross between a Goth and the Adams family. They look like a cheap ghost
train ride, that's gone off the tracks.
The vampires that aren't delusional, aren't role-playing, are the ones
that simply have a blood fetish. Use blood for sex. These people are
quite normal in all respects, apart from their fetish.
If vampires existed at all, they would not draw attention to themselves,
they would be in very low profile occupations. The ultimate vampire
disguise would be that of a trailer resident.
The sexual act is an act of procreation, that through evolution feels
nice so that we want to do it. There is no energy transfer, as none can
be scientifically detected.
Shape shifters, well again we are talking belief, and to a primitive
mind wearing a mask changes you into that creature, because you sure
don't look human anymore.
If your goal is to write fiction that's fine, if you have convoluted
delusions that's fine too (go seek help), if you are play acting this to
sell books then you are abhorred. The fact that you've put the
copyright symbol on your post confirms that a large portion of your post
is fiction, if not all.
People believe in a lot of things, they believe in a soul, although such
a thing is unquantifiable (I believe I have one, although many would beg
to differ ;-)). They believe in the Hollow Earth, they believe in Big
Foot, werewolves, vampires, Aliens.
People believe in the fantastic, to remove themselves from the mundane
thing we call life.
My challenge to any Vampire or Alien, is to simply prove that you
exist... I'm waiting.
Regards Charles
Keeper 2 wrote:
> Hi Cassandra, I am just mentioning some information that you may be
> interested in. Though many folks do not believe in paranormal and like
> to call it fantasy, there are a lot of us that know all too well the
> reality of such things. Since I was a young girl I was an Abductee,
> was my entire life since approximately the age of 4. I didn�t know it
> until I became awakened to it much later on in life. Suddenly I found
> out there are a race of what I call Reptilians that have the EXACT
> characteristics as what legends and lore call Vampires and I know
> first hand that they are actual real beings. Many do as well. I have
> written over 60,000 posts over the last 5 years on very large groups
> and forums with Doctors, Scholars, Scientists and what have you, and
> many of them know the truth about ET races... These particular
> Reptilian ET's that I speak of are Shape-Shifters... They can even
> when they wish have red eyes that glow... Usually for me though I see
> them in human form and they do not usually shift into other forms
> unless very angry, or having sexual contact, and even then it is based
> on their intention of emotion... And anyway, may I suggest you look
> around and consider that Vampires could very well be real, it�s just
> what ever from they wish to take, and what ever works for them to
> enter in and YES YES YES there is most definitely A Psychic Vampire...
> And I'm not talking about an emotional needy draining of energy person
> as Charles said... Nope... Not at all... Most all ET�s and Paranormal
> beings do have an ability to drain energy. I have written thousands of
> posts on this topic and my research is extensive on it as well. But
> they use our energy as a sort of battery charge for their own limited
> light source that dwindles quite regularly due to the dark that they
> follow after. May I suggest you follow your instincts and they will
> never steer you wrong. Don�t listen to others, not even me, but go
> within and you will find your answers. An example of how Reptilians
> and Vampires are so similar is for one, they are Psychic Vampires, and
> they also use Trance to put their captive under, even at times
> paralysis... 2.) They both need your energy to survive, The Vampire
> needing blood could very well be both literal and psychic for even in
> Ancient writing terms, "The Life Is In The Blood" , that is even in
> Biblical accounts and yes Reptilians have been known to thrive off of
> blood.. If read David Icke's books and Movies, Even Arizona Wilders
> movies that David Icke has put out, you will find a slew of
> information to get you started. Even Shaman Credo Mutwa and his movies
> of exposing Reptilians, their agenda and also their need for blood at
> times, hence, it�s very easy to see the correlation between this race
> of ET and Vampires. 3.) Both Vampires and Reptilians have High
> appetites for Sex, and that also is an energy sucking thing, they
> literally take your energy through the act. In fact there are many
> many articles written on this, by some scholars and contactee/
> abductee's alike. The sexual act is energy; in fact sexual union is
> one of the most powerful energy sources you can imagine... They can
> set off the Kundalini energy which can be harnessed and used for what
> ever they set their mind to use it for. Both Light and Dark know the
> power of Sexual energy where as the Dark use it for charging their own
> dimming energy source due to the path they choose to follow after, and
> also on the other hand where light use it to merge two souls together,
> which connects them directly to Source Creator in the most
> unbelievable union and energy nothing on earth could compare to. So
> much of what you are seeking to find answers to you may find in
> researching the net. I have many sources that I have gone to over the
> last many years and have put in literally thousands of hours of my
> time and I am a writer and have shared much from what I have learned
> and not just what I have learned from others experiences, but my own
> very powerful ones. Also the Vampire and the Reptilian can put dream-
> scapes within the mind of their victim, making them think what ever it
> is they wish their victim to think. This is another parallel to the
> two. 5.) Many Reptilians have been seen in rituals that mimic satanic
> behavior and they also wear black a lot when shifted into human form.
> YES it�s all true. There are countless stories and testimony including
> my own about these encounters. The thing is when it comes to Sexual
> Energy, this is one of the biggest ways they take over a person, first
> the Trance and then the Sexual mating, and through that, so long as
> you never completely surrender over your spirit you are not in total
> captivity to them, however, you can learn ways to block both real
> Vampire/Entities and also Psychic Vampire Entities, which to me is one
> in the same because they are always using Psychic senses to take over,
> or put into trance, or to pull out life force from their victims.
> There is hope. And though they are put in a romantic light, they are
> not al that romantic in reality, though they can come as one that
> looks like a Handsome or Beautiful Greek Fallen God, they can also
> shift into something not very romantic at all. It�s like playing fire
> copyright � Jewels December 28, 2009
Keeper 2
learn about this topic. May I suggest Dr.Michael Salla, Dan Bursich,
James Bartlet an X Navy Intelligience Officer, Alex Collier, Project
Camelot, Andrew Hennessey, Many of these are actual Doctors,
Scientists, Scholars that are the top in their field and who ALL
believe and know the reality of ETs are not in the mind at all, they
are literal beings.. May I also suggest reading Out of the Ashes,
study some Egyptology and Ancient Writings, Zacharia Stitich and a
famous Doctor/Scholar who translated the Sumerian Tablets. Also Anne
Hayes, Jordan Maxwell, David Icke, Budd Hopkins, Of course Dr. John
Mack, Dr.Richard Hoagland and while your at it even Physicst Dan
Winters, and Physicst Michio Kaku who also believes in ET.. Also some
India Daily Tech articles.. Whitley Striber.
rape victims dont get scars from imaginary mind trips ... But I could
probably list about 100 Doctors or Scholars or more who have exposed
ET presence and reality. Also people like Dr.Steve Greer and others
who hold very high up titles in many fields including Military, NASA
personel, United States Airforce Piolets, Presidents of the U.S such
as Ronald Reagan and many with credentials you could not deny with
status and knowledge for the most part. Though some argue about the
physics of the ETs existence, they seem to all agree about the total
reality of ETs.. In fact most countries of the world have files that
are now disclosing to their countries citizens.. There are ancient
artifacts that are 5000 years old that are of statues of a worshipped
god with long serpentine neck and coffee bean eyes, and the list goes
on and on.. If you are into religion then you can find even more
ancient texts but if you are not there are plenty of texts and
artifacts to prove no doubt of their existence. Surely the whole world
cannot be crazy in their minds and delusional.. Surely all these
scientists, doctors, physicists cannot all be nuts and especially
seeing that they work at such prestigious jobs within Government and
hold Degrees of standing at some of the reknown Universities of the
World. Naw.. thousands upon thousands have testified.. Even John
Lennon for gods sake had an ET encounter. Jackie Gleason and many
famous personalities as well. Surely they would not put their careers
on the line to sound like nut jobs..
But I understand your delay in this, and even being victims of our own
paradims is an illness such as you mention, for even the skeptic could
be considered ill in some ways and afraid to face reality because its
too freightening for them to face.. yes.. Me too I was afraid to
believe too, but when you get it smacked at you, you can either do one
of two things, you can either say ok God, or no God if your an
athiest, you can say, either its true or it isnt and if it is true am
I strong enough as a person and am I mentally able to handle the truth
and yes 9 times our of 10 most are not able mentally to handle truth..
So, its not to feel bad when a person needs to make up excuses like
the skeptics need to put out in order to feel safe. I've seen a few of
those on TV, but all in all, MORE believe in them then dont.. Yes they
did surveys forever on this and for the most part, most folks are not
so arrogant to think we are the only life in this entire universe..
After all look at the artifacts on Mars.. I have 100's of videos I've
collected over the years and though some are hoax, many are not..
Anyway, we have many Military persons who have actually worked on
Bases with ET/Man side by side.. Dulce is one example but there are
hundreds of bases.
My point is thousands have had actual physical contact, while
AWAKE!!! not sleeping and who are as sane as anyone can be called
sane..But reptilians mimic exactly how vampires are in fantasy.. But
many lore and legends come from ancient writings and the fact of the
matter is there are books on this, and there are many who have
documented these writings, and the saying Truth is Stranger Then
Fiction fits big time. Oh yah besides Reagan, also Nixon was a big
time believer, also JFK, also Truman, Roosevelt,,,
Please be sure to check out all the physicists I mentioned as well as
like Hoagland who worked for NASA.. I also had another doc on my
personal group who worked and consulted for NASA that confirms the
reality of them. The fact of the matter is, they have always been
here, visiting and involved with earth.. Many call ETs Angels or
Angels ETs.. I sort of go along with that.. And even in the old T, the
Biblical account of the sons of god mating with the daughters of men
upon earth who were offspring came the Nephilm are nothing more then
ET.. Or Angels but the correct word for Angel in the Hebrew tongue is
"Watcher"... Lots of folks forget that.
BY THE WAY my challenge is "Prove They Dont Exist" Further more Prove
God doesnt exist or an Angel to anyones liking and you will end up
empty handed.. MOST things paranormal cannot be proven only due to
them being not of this world, but yet they can be proven if one but
open their eyes to see.. This is how it has always been, yet there are
artifact and writings and testimony, doctors, scientists, scholars and
people in very high position that prove more that they do exist then
dont..
Also be sure to check out Linda Howe's links here:
http://www.earthfiles.com/headlines.php?category=Real+X-Files the
real xfiles written by Ph.D and Docs etc.
Anyway thanks for your comments,
And here is Two Articles , one is a great one for skeptics.. take
care, Jewels
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SYMPTOMS OF PATHOLOGICAL SKEPTICISM (c)1996 William J. Beaty ...
THIS PAGE: http://amasci.com/pathsk2.txt MAIN PAGE: http://amasci.com/weird/wclose.html
Many members of the mainstream scientific community react with extreme
hostility when presented with certain claims. This can be seen in
their emotional responses to current controversies such as UFO
abductions, Cold Fusion, cryptozoology, psi, and numerous others. The
scientists react not with pragmatism and a wish to get to the bottom
of things, but instead with the same tactics religious groups use to
suppress heretics: hostile emotional attacks, circular reasoning,
dehumanizing of the 'enemy', extreme closed-mindedness, intellectually
dishonest reasoning, underhanded debating tactics, negative gossip,
and all manner of name-calling and character assassination. Two can
play at that game! Therefore, I call their behavior "Pathological
Skepticism," a term I base upon skeptics' assertion that various
unacceptable ideas are "Pathological Science." Below is a list of the
symptoms of pathological skepticism I have encountered, and examples
of the irrational reasoning they tend to produce. (Note: all the
quotes are artificial examples) 1. Belief that theories determine
phenomena, rather than the reverse. "The phenomenon you have observed
is impossible, crazy stuff. We know of no mechanism which could
explain your results, so we have grave suspicions about the accuracy
your report. There is no room for your results in modern theory, so
they simply cannot exist. You are obviously the victim of errors,
hoaxers, or self-delusion. We need not publish your paper, and any
attempts at replicating your results would be a waste of time. Your
requests for funding are misguided, and should be turned down." 2.
Erecting barriers against new ideas by constantly altering the
requirements for acceptance. (A practice called "moving the
goalposts.") "I'll believe it when 'X' happens" (but when it does,
this immediately is changed to: "I'll believe it when 'Y' happens.")
Example: "I won't believe it until major laboratories publish papers
in this field. They have? That means nothing! Major labs have been
wrong before. I'll believe it when stores sell products which use the
effect. They do? That means nothing, after all, stores sell magic
healing pendants and Ouija boards. I'll believe it when a Nobel Prize
winning researcher gets behind that work. One has? Well that means
nothing! That person is probably old and dotty like Dr. Pauling and
his vitamin-C..." etc. 3. Belief that fundamental concepts in science
rarely change, coupled with a "herd following" behavior where the
individual changes his/her opinions when colleagues all do, all the
while remaining blind to the fact that any opinions had ever changed.
"The study of (space flight, endosymbiosis, drillcore bacteria, child
abuse, cold fusion, etc.) has always been a legitimate pursuit. If
scientists ever ridiculed the reported evidence or tried to stop such
research, it certainly was not a majority of scientists. It must have
been just a few misguided souls, and must have happened in the distant
past." 4. Belief that science is guided by consensus beliefs and
majority rule, rather than by evidence. Indulging in behavior which
reinforces the negative effects of consensus beliefs while minimizing
the impact of any evidence which contradicts those beliefs. "I don't
care how good your evidence is, I won't believe it until the majority
of scientists also find it acceptable. Your evidence cannot be right,
because it would mean that hundreds of textbooks and thousands of
learned experts are wrong. 5. Adopting a prejudiced stance against a
theory or an observed phenomena without first investigating the
details, then using this as justification for refusing to investigate
the details. "Your ideas are obviously garbage. What, try to replicate
your evidence? I wouldn't soil my hands. And besides, it would be a
terrible waste of time and money, since there's no question about the
outcome." 6. Maintaining an unshakable stance of hostile, intolerant
skepticism, and when anyone complains of this, accusing them of
paranoid delusion. Remaining blind to scientists' widespread practice
of intellectual suppression of unorthodox findings, and to the
practice of "expulsion of heretics" through secret, back-room
accusations of deviance or insanity. "You say that no one will listen
to your ideas, and now the funding for your other projects is cut off
for no reason? And colleagues are secretly passing around a petition
demanding that you be removed? If you're thinking along THOSE lines,
then you obviously are delusional and should be seeking professional
help." 7. Ignoring the lessons of history, and therefore opening the
way for repeating them again and again. "Scientists of old ridiculed
the germ theory, airplanes, space flight, meteors, etc. They were
certain that science of the time had everything figured out, and that
major new discoveries were no longer possible. Isn't it good that we
researchers of today are much more wise, and such things can no longer
happen!" 8. *Denial* of the lessons of history. An inability to admit
that science has made serious mistakes in the past. Maintaining a
belief that good ideas and discoveries are never accidentally
suppressed by closed-mindedness, then revising history to fit this
belief. "Throughout history, the *majority* of scientists never
ridiculed flying machines, spacecraft, television, continental drift,
reports of ball lightning, meteors, sonoluminescence, etc. These
discoveries are not examples of so-called 'paradigm shifts', they are
obvious examples of the slow, steady, forward progress made by
science!" 9. Using circular arguments to avoid accepting evidence
which supports unusual discoveries, or to prevent publication of this
evidence. "I do not have to inspect the evidence because I know it's
wrong. I know it's wrong because I've never seen any positive
evidence." "We will not publish your paper, since these results have
not been replicated by any other researchers. We will not publish your
paper, since it is merely a replication of work which was done
earlier, by other researchers." 10. Accusing opponents of delusion,
lying, or even financial fraud, where no evidence for fraud exists
other than the supposed impossibility of evidence being presented.
"Don't trust researchers who study parapsychology. They constantly
cheat and lie in order to support their strange worldviews. Very few
of them have been caught at it, but it's not necessary to do so, since
any fool can see that the positive evidence for psi can only be
created by people who are either disturbed or dishonest. 11.
Unwarranted confidence that the unknown is in the far distance, not
staring us in the face. "Your evidence cannot be real because it's not
possible that thousands of researchers could have overlooked it for
all these years. If your discovery was real, the scientists who work
in that field would already know about it." 12. Belief that certain
fields of science are complete, that scientific revolutions never
happen, and that any further progress must occur only in brushing up
the details. "Physics is a mature field. Future progress can only lie
in increasing the energies of particle accelerators, and in refining
the precision of well-known measurements. Your discovery cannot be
true, since it would mean we'd have to throw out all our hard- won
knowledge about physics." 13. Excusing the ridicule, trivialization,
and the scorn which is directed at 'maverick' ideas and at anomalous
evidence. Insisting that sneering and derisive emotional attacks
constitute a desirable and properly scientific natural selection
force. "It is right that new discoveries be made to overcome large
barriers. That way only the good ideas will become accepted. If some
important discoveries are suppressed in this process, well, that's
just the price we have to pay to defend science against the fast-
growing hoards of crackpots who threaten to destroy it." 14.
Justifying any refusal to inspect evidence by claiming a "slippery
slope." Using the necessary judicious allocation of time and funding
as a weapon to prevent investigation of unusual, novel, or threatening
ideas. "If we take your unlikely discovery seriously, all scientists
everywhere will have to accept every other crackpot idea too, and then
we'll waste all of our time checking out crackpot claims." 15. A
blindness to phenomena which do not fit the current belief system,
coupled with a denial that beliefs affect perceptions. "Thomas Kuhn's
'paradigm shifts' and sociology's 'cognitive dissonance' obviously do
not apply to average, rational scientists. Scientists are objective,
so they are not prone to the psychological failings which plague
normal humans. Scientists always welcome any data which indicates a
need to revise their current knowledge. Their "beliefs" don't affect
their perceptions, scientists don't have "beliefs", science is not a
religion! 16. A belief that all scientific progress is made by small,
safe, obvious steps, that widely-accepted theories are never
overturned, and that no new discoveries come from anomalies observed.
"All your observations are obviously mistakes. They couldn't possibly
be real, because if they were real, it would mean that major parts of
current science are wrong, and we would have to rewrite large portions
of we know about physics. This never occurs. Science proceeds by
building on earlier works, never by tearing them down. Therefore it is
right that we reject evidence which contradicts contemporary theory,
and recommend that funding of such research not be continued." 17.
Hiding any evidence of personal past ridicule of ideas which are later
proved valid. Profound narcissism; an extreme need to always be right,
a fear of having personal errors revealed, and a habit of silently
covering up past mistakes. " X is obviously ridiculous, and its
supporters are crack- pots who are giving us a bad name and should be
silenced." But if X is proved true, the assertion suddenly becomes:
"Since 'X' is obviously true, it follows that..." 18. Belief in the
lofty status of modern science but with consequent blindness to, and
denial of, its faults. A tendency to view shameful events in the
history of modern science as being beneficial, and a lack of any
desire to fix contemporary problems. "It was right that Dr. Wegner's
career was wrecked; that he was treated as a crackpot, ridiculed, and
died in shame. His evidence for continental drift convinced no one.
And besides, he did not propose a mechanism to explain the phenomena."
19. A belief that Business and the Press have no tendency towards
close- mindedness and suppression of novelty, and that their actions
are never are guided by the publicly-expressed judgement of
scientists. "If the Wright Brothers' claims were true, we would be
reading about it in all the papers, and flying-machine companies would
be springing up left and right. Neither of these is occurring,
therefor the Wright's claims are obviously a lie and a hoax. 20.
Refusing to be swayed when other researchers find evidence supporting
unconventional phenomena or theories. If other reputable people change
sides and accept the unorthodox view, this is seen as evidence of
their gullibility or insanity, not as evidence that perhaps the
unconventional view is correct. "I'll believe it when someone like Dr.
P believes it." But when Dr. P changes sides, this becomes: "Dr. P did
some great work in his early years, but then he destroyed his career
by getting involved with that irrational crackpot stuff." 21.
Elevating skepticism to a lofty position, yet indulging in hypocrisy
and opening the way to pathological thinking by refusing to ever cast
a critical, SKEPTICAL eye upon the irrational behavior of scoffers.
"Criticizing skeptics is never beneficial. It even represents a danger
to science. One should never criticize science, it just gives
ammunition to the enemy; it aids the irrational, anti-science hoards
who would destroy our fragile edifice." 22. Belief that modern
scientists as a group lack faults, and therefore clinging to any slim
justifications in order to ignore the arguments of those who hope to
eliminate the flaws in Science. "I think we can safely ignore Thomas
Kuhn's STRUCTURES OF SCIENTIFIC REVOLUTIONS. Despite his physics
training we can see that Kuhn was an outsider to science; he obviously
doesn't have a good grasp on real science. Outsiders never can see
things in the proper positive light, it takes a working scientist to
see the real situation. Also, he stressed his central themes way too
much, so I think we can ignore him as simply being a sensationalist.
And besides, if he's digging up dirt regarding science, then he must
have a hidden agenda. I bet we'll find that he's a Christian or
something, probably a creationist." 23. Blindness to the widespread
existence of the above symptoms. Belief that scientists are inherently
objective, and rarely fall victim to these faults. Excusing the
frequent appearance of these symptoms as being isolated instances
which do not comprise an accumulation of evidence for the common
practice of Pathological Skepticism. "This 'Pathological Skepticism'
does not exist. Kooks and crackpots deserve the hostile mistreatment
we give them, but anyone who does similar things to skeptics is
terribly misguided. Those who criticize skeptics are a danger to
Science itself, and we must stop them." See also: Zen and the art of
debunkery, Dan Drasin http://amasci.com/pathskep.html Seven Warning
Signs of Bogus Skepticism http://mathpost.la.asu.edu/~boerner/seven%20warning%20signs.html
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2nd Post (doctors and scholars addition to this article)
Time Travel: Egyptian Artefacts support scholarly testimony of
oppressive Manipulative Extraterrestrial infiltration of human society
through militarism
by Peter Tremblay
Photos taken of ancient hieroglyphics on different visits by
individuals to Egypt, distinctively show a military-looking
helicopter, an aeroplane, a submarine, and even some kind of alien
spacecraft. Photos which accompany this article, were further
documented to have been taken in 1996 and 1997.
Ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics that show a military-looking helicopter
constitute apparent evidence of time travel related to Manipulative
Extraterrestrial infiltration of Earthbound human society.
The glyphs suggest that Extraterrestrials have shown an interest and
have demonstrated the capability to rule over humanity. The glyphs
also suggest that similar technologies today, that apparently existed
thousands of years ago, may have originated from a similar source.
Indeed, Dr. Michael Salla has suggested the current existence of
military-industrial-extraterrestrial complex that has access to
“exotic technologies” which include time-travel. If these technologies
existed thousands of years ago, wouldn’t time travel by a related
group account for the re-introduction of the same technologies?
Retired NATO Commander, Rhodes Scholar, and four-star general Wes
Clark -- who made a late October 2003 entry in the 2004 U.S.
Presidential race following a successful draft campaign -- made
comments in reference to "time travel" as an important area of
research that was quite attainable. Perhaps according to scholarly
testimony like Dr. Salla, and other researchers of UFO phenomenon,
such technology has already been developed, this LINK
Bill Hobbs further records that Clark said on the U.S. Presidential
campaign trial, that he thinks that time travel is possible and that
it will be accomplished. And he strongly implied that as president, he
would openly allocate federal money to develop it. LINK Indeed, if
such an "exotic technology" was already developed, then the elites who
presided over any such technology would be able to evaluate the
American public's reaction to such information.
Could time travelling manipulative extraterrestrials that presided
over the destruction of previous human civilizations, use time travel
as a means of selectively seeking to influence sentient races at
different stages of the technological development of various planetary
civilizations?
In 1848, one of numerous archaeological expeditions working in Egypt
discovered strange hieroglyphs at the height of about ten metres right
above the entrance to the Seti Temple in Abydos. The walls were
apparently covered with the strange signs that greatly puzzled
researchers. The only thing the researchers realized at once was that
they had discovered some images of strange mechanisms that nobody ever
saw before.
"The archaeological expedition carefully copied the mysterious signs
on the temple walls, and the hieroglyphs gave rise to endless disputes
and heated debates among Egyptologists. As a result, majority of
Egyptologists arrived at a conclusion at that time that there were
just strange objects drawn in different variations, " documents the
Russian newspaper Pravda. LINK
Researchers of the 19th century failed to understand what ancient
Egyptians actually drew on the temple walls. Like any sensation the
mysterious Abydos hieroglyphs were absolutely forgotten some time
later.
In about 150 years, the respectable Arab newspaper Al-Sharq Al-Awsat
published several evocative photos taken in the Amon Ra Temple in
Karnak. At that, the newspaper asked its readers whether they believed
that ancient Egyptians knew about battle aviation. The photos showed
an ancient artist(s) engraved a battle helicopter with a distinct
rotor and a tail unit. Nearby, the artist depicted several other
aircrafts astonishingly resembling contemporary supersonic fighters
and heavy strategic bombers.
The Russian article from Pravda titled "Ancient Egyptians used
helicopters and airplanes for battles?" documents that "After the
thought provoking publication of the photos it became clear why
Egyptologists of the 19th century could not tell what was depicted on
the walls of the temple in Abydos." LINK.
Indeed, the nineteenth century researchers did not know how
helicopters and aircrafts look.
Well-known Egyptologist Alan Alford left to the Nile banks to study
the Abydos mystery. The researcher studied the mysterious hieroglyphs
and made sure that what seemed absolutely incredible was in fact quite
real. Alford told journalists that ancient Egyptians had depicted a
real helicopter model as if they made the engravings from life. LINK
Some of the depictions by artists thousands of years ago, are still
apparently unknown.
These photos were met with the usual attempts by operatives of a
modern era, who are paid by the Establishment, and who operate in a
cloak of secrecy, to spin an accompanying web of deceit and dis-
information. LINK
These photos are further accompanied by archaeological findings in
Egypt of alien skulls attributed to an oppressive apparent human-
extraterrestrial hybrid race. Professor Zecharia Sitichin’s research
further supports eyewitness accounts by indigenous and other peoples,
about numerous skulls of human-extraterrestrial hybrid race that have
been photographed.
Joel Mills in the process of producing the CD-ROM "The Secrets of
Stargate." sought to collect photographs of giant skulls of apparent
human-extraterrestrial hybrid races. These skulls were later
apparently censored from the producing of the CD-ROM. Notwithstanding
this "these skulls are so numerous in the area of the Nasca desert in
South America, that you can find small makeshift museums in the
backyards of the locals."
Mr. Mills believed that these alien skulls and related artefacts
proved that original Stargate film (1994) of an interseller time
teleportation mechanism could be not simply some sort of science
fiction fantasy.
Wikpedia documents that the film and later developed television series
was based upon the following storyline:
"The United States civilian government holds the Stargate's existence
a secret, so story lines present no contradiction between the
episode's events and reality. In the story, many Earth mythologies are
in fact based upon events involving aliens who visited or controlled
Earth civilizations in the distant past."
Posing as gods, Manipulative Extraterrestrials were presented as
enslaving the inhabitants of ancient Egypt, creating its culture and
religion. These malevolent aliens were presented as using Stargates to
move labourers from Earth to other habitable planets. The aliens were
also depicted as being forced to flee Earth following a successful
rebellion by the humans, and the Stargate was buried and forgotten
until its rediscovery in Giza, Egypt, 1928.
Adolf Hilter has been historically documented as being a member of the
UFO oriented Thule society, before his rise to power. Nazi Germany was
allegedly inspired from his contacts with representatives of alleged
Great Pyramid inspiring Extraterrestrial "Aryan" civilizations. This
has been documented in the article titled, "The Aliens of the Golden
Dawn". LINK
In the book entitled The Dawn of Magic by Louis Pauwells and Jacques
Bergier first published in France under the title Le Matin des
Magiciens 1960, Hitler was documented as having indicated: "The new
man is living amongst us now! He is here!" exclaimed Hitler,
triumphantly... I will tell you a secret. I have seen the new man. He
is intrepid and cruel. I was afraid of him." LINK
Did the same group of time-travelling Extraterrestrials that provide
military technology that were drawn on the Egyptian glyphs, also seek
to funnel technology to Adolf Hitler's Nazi Germany so as to
effectuate an agenda to run planet Earth as "Aryan" custodial gods,
over the enslaving of humanity?
Local guides in Peru explained their church leaders feel the skulls of
apparent ancient ruling castes of human-alien hybrids, are "the work
of the devil", and the offspring of the fallen angels in the Bible.
With this in mind, learned scholar and author John Lash in
Metahistory.org documents ancient Gnostics as seeking to warn humanity
about intelligent inorganic life possessing demonic consciousness that
were presented in Gnostic cosmology to be Archons or "fallen angels".
Findings prove that the Archonic rulers of these apparently
technologically advanced societies, shared the common bond of huge
skulls and brains that probably provided them with highly developed
intellectual capabilities. This information has been allegedly shared
by secret societies and religious leaders for hundreds of years. These
pictures have been described by viewers as showing "proof of beings
from another world" interacting with humans LINK
Egypt's King Akhenaton and his daughters were allegedly proud of their
"distinct features" (elongated skulls) and the true facts of this
royal family are shrouded in controversy. LINK.
Some historians paid by the Establishment to create dis-information,
point out that the giant skulls of this family are simply a deformity
caused by inbreeding. Others discount this and claim that it is the
art style of the Armana period. LINK.
Ignatius Donnelly in his book entitled Atlantis, The Antedeluvian
World explores historical accounts of a Continent that existed in the
middle of the Atlantic Ocean that sank into the sea. He documents that
before it sank, the apparent Human-Manipulative Extraterrestrial
hybrid rulers left for Egypt, Mexico and Peru and became rulers of
newfound apocalyptical empires with Great Pyramids, that were based
around oppressive religious-militaristic cults. He found information
about elongated apparent alien-human hybrid skulls hidden in the
Library of Congress in Washington. Perhaps "the sinking" of Atlantis
had something to do with a military attempt of these alien-human
hybrids to seize and take control of Atlantis as an allegedly highly
advanced human civilization?
Alberto Fujimori
Former Peruvian President Alberto Fujimori had advocated the release
of official photographic documentation of the apparent skulls of an
alien-human hybrid ruling caste.
When President Alberto Fujimori took power in Peru he had decided to
allow the skulls to be photographed. The Peruvian government had
indicated to a researcher that "these unusual skulls could be found in
many museums in Peru and excavations were uncovering them even now
near the Nasca Plateau." LINK.
Brad Steiger’s book entitled Worlds Before our Own presented evidence
that previous earth civilizations were destroyed possibly by very
sophisticated nuclear weapons, in a catastrophic war on Earth of
intergalactic proportions, involving different alien civilizations .
If this is the case, then these glyps corroborate Dr. Salla’s research
of a military-industrial-extraterrestrial complex that once again may
be taking humanity into a path of planetary destruction for whatever
alien agenda might exist.
Dr. Salla in "A Report on the Motivations and Activities of
Extraterrestrial Races – A Typology of the Most Significant
Extraterrestrial Races Interacting with Humanity" in Exopolitics,
revised January 1, 2005 documents that Clifford Stone, a retired U.S.
army Sergeant who served in the U.S. Army for 22 years and
participated in covert operations to retrieve crashed extraterrestrial
ships and extraterrestrial biological entities (EBE’s), revealed there
were a total of 57 extraterrestrial races known by UFO and
Extraterrestrial dis-information operatives. LINK.
Dr. Salla further reveals that apparent Manipulative Extraterrestrials
(in contrast with socially responsible and Ethical Extraterrestrials)
have sought to introduce military technologies through ego and greed
driven elites, that have literally sold their soul to gain access to
these technologies. Dr. Salla indicates that Manipulative
Extraterrestrials having exploited short-sighted human elites, have
instigated a "range of systemic global problems."
Indeed, if there are, for example, baseball and football players as
well as track and field stars, who are willing to sell out their
personal health by taking steroids in order to get more money and in
their apparent view, "more glory, just think how many corrupt human
politicians, in turn, would be correspondingly willing to similarly
sell out their soul to manipulative aliens in their quest for their
sought prize of short-sighted planetary power.
Dr. Salla's further documents alleged interactions between
Manipulative extraterrestrial races and empire-driven human elites as
having "reached agreements with, and even collaborated in a number of
joint projects."
Gary McKinnon in a Wired Magazine article titled "'UFO Hacker' Tells
What He Found" indicates that, "I also got access to Excel
spreadsheets. One was titled "Non-Terrestrial Officers." Mr. McKinnon
uncovered what he indicated appeared to be orbiting alien spacecraft,
that would then be systematically airbrushed out of high resolution
satellite images.
Could nuclear weapons itself, which human elites now seek to threaten
Iran toward a global nuclear holocaust, also have been introduced
through human elite collaborations with manipulative alien toward a
global conquest agenda?
Secrets of the Lost Races writer Rene Noorbergen reveals scientific
research on ancient Pyramids that have been in turn linked to Human-
Extraterrestrial hybrid races, have also demonstrated traces of
nuclear radiation consistent with a pre-historic nuclear war.
In South America the Brazilian ruins of Sete Ciddaes are enormously
revealing. Author Noorbergen in Secrets of the Lost Races writes of
"ruins melted by apocalyptic energies..."! Elsewhere, in Mesopotamia
sizeable ziggurats -- a form of early pyramid -- have been found
melted to their base in a vitrified mass! LINK.
In the article "Nuclear Wars in Antiquity", by author Harry Hinde
further documents the following:
"In the Arabian desert blackened stones litter the sands over a wide
area, showing signs of having been subjected to intense radiation. In
Israel the location of the Dead Sea and it's mysterious connection
with Sodom and Gomorrah bears evidence of an amazing focus of heat
that is thought to have gouged out the entire area in a massive
explosion. Vitrified rock created under intense pressure, is a
frequent discovery, and in 1952 archaeologists discovered a vitrified
area of sand that stretched out over hundreds of square feet!
Apparently deposits like this are similar to those left behind at the
White Sands atomic testing site in America." LINK.
"In fact wherever we look in the world the baffling enigma of
vitrified ruins challenges our intellect! From Peru, to Scotland and
Scandinavia; to the plateau's of China and India, this indelible
evidence attests to some undeniably violent act." LINK.
Erich von Daniken's Chariots of the Gods? has presented theories of
ancient astronauts constituting a possible intergalactic alien
invasion force, landing on Earth. Von Daniken links Great Pyramid like
structures on Mars to similar looking Great Pyramids on Earth, as the
alleged basis of fascistic alien colonies on Earth. The well-
documented humanoid face on Mars -- that has apparently been also
subsequently subjected to elite-directed air-brushing toward an alien
disinformation campaign -- has also been cited as evidence of
malevolent alien migrations to Earth.
Rene Noorbergen further documents charred ruins to be found between
the River Ganges in India and the mountains of Rajamahal. "The walls
have been glazed, corroded, and split by tremendous heat. Within
several of the buildings that remain standing even the surfaces of the
stone furniture have been vitrified: melted then crystallised. No
natural burning flame or volcanic eruption could have produced heat
intense enough to cause this phenomenon. Only the heat released
through atomic energy could have done this damage." Also in this same
region a human body was discovered with a radioactivity "which was
fifty times above the normal level". LINK
Apparent skull of alien-human hybrid
Apparent skull of alien-human hybrid ruling caste of ancient society
are reportedly prevelant in Peru, and have also been found by
researchers in Egypt.
Mr Lash is Metahistory.org documents, that Gnostic research uncovered
intrusion by intelligent inorganic Manipulative Extraterrestrials that
are native to other planets in Earth's solar system that sought to
instigate violence among humans in a "divide, conquest and rule"
agenda. Manipulative aliens through opportunistic time periods of
terrestrial conflicts on Earth, would likely find many zealot human
elites willing to do anything in order to acquire military technology
to destroy each other for their own conquest agenda with "hybrid"
confederates. Mr. Lash documents the extent to which alien-inspired
organized religion has provided a context for sowing bigotries, and an
ensuing culture of violence, that can "ripen" into the kind of
militarism which now shapes American foreign policy.
The so-called "War on Terror" could be in fact an Manipulative
Extraterrestrial ruse for an evolving alien agenda, against human
rights, spiritual free will, and sovereignty. Appreciating
Manipulative Extraterrestrial intrusion on the development of human
civilization could very well illuminate such catastrophes from the
Holocaust against the Jews, the genocide in Rwanda where human elites
turned their back on, and on-goings acts of oppression and barbarity
on our planet.
Mr. Lash cites Gnostics as having illuminated that individuals who
seek to appreciate Manipulative Extraterrestrial infiltration of
Earthbound human society must introspectively come to grips with what
it means to be human. After doing that through a process of critical
inner spiritual reflection (free of externally imposed alien inspired
organized religious dogma) individuals can readily be able to also
detect Manipulative Extraterrestrial infiltration.
Adult human beings can observe the human spirit in its rawest form as
being manifested in the newborn infant that smiles and that seeks to
reach out to other human beings in a spirit of empathy, free of
bigotry and the violence, that has been conditioned through alien-
inspired organized religions.
Extraterrestrial infiltration of humanity is evident among subsequent
development of certain constituencies of human beings who are driven
by exploitation, greed, and violence, and who then seek to
oppressively lash out at other human beings to perpetuate their alien-
induced exploitation agenda.
Brad Steiger suggests that humans must learn the mistakes committed in
the past in an apparent previous cycle(s) on nuclear and general
apocalyptical destruction, in order to avoid humanity being once again
manipulated into an elite-inspired agenda of exploitation, oppression,
and destruction.
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Keeper 2
am afraid that is a "break" but spare me the down casting. I went to
school to get into psychology, amongst other things. this post below
is very informative. Hope you can handle it, its the truth. The first
thing skeptic do is down cast and call people unbalanced, delusional,
having a break down.. geeze. give me a break, no pun intended.
Jewels
Keeper 2
you never read any spiritual articles and perhaps Charles that is why
you do not know these things. Getting Spiritual is the first step to
understanding these concepts, second, it is not just purely done
because it feels good, it is about LOVE, the greatest energy of all..
Yet it can be used in negative ways such as supposed sex magic and if
you say it dont exist then ask Aleister Crowley or LeVey and others.
Better yet do some ancient readings of Tandric Union from Vedic
writings. Read up on Kundalini as well.. Twin Flames and there is so
much to read on this topic. Here is just one person of many that
wrote an article about sexual energy transformation
Kundalini since Vedic Times and still used today.. this is only one of
hundreds of sites on it. But many have perverted its use in purity and
so you have to be careful what sites you go to, to read up on this.
Here is just one. http://www.aryabhatt.com/occult/kundalini/sexenergy.htm
Here is Gnostic site on Kundalini and Sexual energy transformation
http://gracefulgnosis.blogspot.com/2007/12/sivananda-on-sexual-sublimationtransmut.html
Here is a Doctors site on Sexual energy transformation
http://www.tantratransformation.com/07articles5.html
Another http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=12523610357
Deepak Chopra http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1KPCbWcFWM
http://www.universal-tao.com/article/sexual_energy_elixir.html
Anyway, there are tons on the net about this and in ancient writings
and texts, taught by Masters.. Here is one article..
Jewels
Transformation of Sexual Energy
This discussion on sexual energy is classic. We have all heard about
the need for controlling our sexuality and about the power derived
from transforming sexual energy into spiritual energy. In this frank
discourse, Shree Maa and I not only give a new vocabulary with which
to talk about the transformation of sexual energy, but moreover we
describe the process of that transformation. We detail the Swastik
asana and the banda kriya practices which turn shukra into ojas, and
ojas into tejas, resulting in the highest meditative energy and out of
body experiences.
Click here for Talk on Sexual Energy
Swami Satyananda Saraswati's Talk on Transmuting Sexual Energy
This is the first time I've given this talk in mixed company, so
please excuse me if I'am a little hesitant. We wanted to talk about
sexual energy. There are two paths, the path of Viagra, and the path
of Vairagya; they're very closely associated, just equal and opposite.
Of course, the path of Viagra is the path of stimulation and external
expression, and the path of Vairagya is the path that goes inside. Vai
means without, and raga means passion. And a vairagi is a kind of
sanyasi in the Vaishnava lineage. He is one who is free from passion.
Also raga means activity. So vairagya means reducing our attachment to
activity. So we're interested, presumably, in the path of vairagya, in
the path of freeing ourselves from passion, and freeing ourselves from
activity. And I wanted to talk about a vocabulary that gives us new
words to invite new concepts, so that we can make the journey more
efficiently.
Actually the concept of sexual energy has no Sanskrit name. There's
just energy. And there isn't sexual energy or spiritual energy or this
energy, or that energy. There is just shakti, energy. And wherever we
pay attention to that shakti, that's how it manifests in our lives, in
our behavior, in our activities. So when we talk in English about
sexual energy, we're just saying our minds, our physiology is moving
toward sexuality. The energy is the same.
I want to talk about the process of transmuting, transforming, that
energy which we're paying attention to in sexual areas, into a
spiritual energy which is taking us higher and higher towards our
intended goal. Because once we have this understanding, we become
empowered to desist from seeking frivolous relationships. We don't
have to go outside, and find relationships that don't work for us. We
can spend more time bringing that energy in and up towards our
intended goal.
That's why I want to talk about this new vocabulary. The first step,
of course, are the organs. In the male, it is called the lingam, and
in the female it's called the yoni. Now, the yoni has another name;
it's also called the chit kunda, the container of consciousness,
because no one goes to the yoni without placing full consciousness.
It's not something that is done casually.
In our Kali Puja book, we have translated a paddhoti, a system of
worship for the puja called garbhadhan. Beyond the yoni is the
garbbha, the womb, and that's where the seeds are incubated. What we
call garbhadhan is placing the seeds into the incubator, into the
womb. We have many mantras that use the term garbha. Hiranyagarbha,
the golden womb, is the womb which incubates the seeds.
Actually, here is where the distinctions in the vocabulary between
male and female stops. From here on, there is just one vocabulary to
describe the process, because both male and female seeds are called
shukra. Shukra means the seeds of life, and shukra means bright, and
clear, and pure, which means the seeds of life are the purveyors of
clarity and purity. In the Kali Sahasranama, there are several names
into which the qualities of Shukra are integrated: like, shukra
vrishtipradayini and shukra samudranivasini. In one sense, in the
gross body, she is the purveyor of the seeds of life. In another
sense, she dwells in the ocean of purity or clarity, which begets
life. So in whatever way we want to take the understanding, that's how
we will apply it in our sadhana, and in our lives.
When I translated the Kali Sahashranam, I used the term, clarity to
stand for the seeds of life. But the seeds of life are equally
applicable. Now more subtle that the shukra is ojas. Ojas is the
subtle body of shukra. Shukra is the gross body, that which comes out,
that which unites, that which begets life, another being. Ojas is the
subtle body. The objective of our practice will be to take all the
shukra that wants to flow out, that wants to take the path to the
world, and turn it inside, and turn it into ojas, and bring the ojas
up. Almost like an ejaculation of the subtle form, it comes up.
Now in order to make this more efficient, there are a few techniques
called "bandhas." A bandha is the contraction of the muscles. In order
to practice this, you will want to be sitting in the swastik asana,
with your left heel in the muladhara to the extent of your capacity.
And if you were to feel yourself in a state of sexual excitement, and
paying attention to the sexual energy, then you could sit in the
asana, and practice the bandha. The mulabandha is the contraction of
the muscles in the anus, and you just close the anus, and tighten the
bottom, and bring the energy up, almost as it shoots up. And as the
energy comes up in its subtle form, in the form of ojas. it comes
through the swadishtana, and into the manipura chakra, where you
practice the madyamikabandha, by contracting the abdominal muscles. So
you practice first the mulabandha, and bring that energy up into the
manipura, and then you practice the madyamikabandh, and contract the
abdominal muscles, and keep pulling it up until it comes to the heart.
In the heart comes the uttarbandha, where you contract the muscles of
the heart just like you are so much in love, just like you're feeling
so much power, empowered by the shakti that's coming up. Now it's no
longer sexual energy, it's shakti. And this shakti's coming into the
heart chakra. It's filling the heart with. the essence of what we're
seeking in that expression of energy. We're turning that sexual
passion into love, and we will change the ojas into tejas, and tejas
means light. If you contract the muscles of the chest, and pull in
your heart, and feel the light rising higher and higher, you move into
the uttarabandh. Here you bring that tejas shakti to the agnya chakra,
and through the sahasrara, and bring it out, and let it go as high as
you possibly can, almost like you had an ejaculation of the subtle
form of energy that came all the way out through the top of your
skull, and reached all the way to the planets.
And that's called making love. So the mulabandha contracts the anal
muscles and also those of the thighs, and then you bring up the energy
into madhyamikabandha, where it becomes so much empowered, so much
more fulfilled, and through practicing madhyamikabandha, you bring it
to the anahata chakra. Here it fills your heart with so much love, and
you're exuding this energy. You can hardly contain it; your chest
pulls in tight because you're feeling so much emotion. Now you've
become vairagi, because all the raga, all the passion, has been
directed towards your love of God. And from the uttarbandha, we're
bringing it higher and higher, and by letting it sit in the agyna
chakra, the ojas becomes tejas. The mind becomes filled with light,
and now you feel that light, you see that light coming higher and
higher. And that's where we can meditate.
Then sexual energy is no longer an obstacle in our path; it's just
energy. And it's a tool by which we move, direct, and can focus our
attention to where we want to go. It doesn't bring us outside into
relationships that we don't really need. It brings us inside into the
furtherance of our true objectives.
Swamiji asks, "Are there any questions?"
Shree Maa says:
Patnim manoramam dehi, manovrittanusarinim
tarinim durga samsara, sagarasya kulodbhavam.
This is shiva/shakti.
Swamiji explains, "This is the union between Shiva and Shakti; Shiva
in the sahasrara, and shakti resides in the muladhara. She's coming up
in the form of shukra, transforming into ojas, becoming tejas, and
then uniting. And this is the true union, the verse that Mother is
reciting from the Argala Stotram. Give me a wife in harmony with my
mind; that wife is Shakti because who's singing the song? Shiva!
Consciousness is asking for energy to come and illuminate him. That's
just what it is!
From Shree Maa's comment, Swamiji further explains, "That wife, that
energy, is uniting with the soul, and taking the soul higher and
higher, and higher. Now she's no longer the energy that keeps us bound
to worldly interaction. She's the energy that inspires us to come to
the highest realization. We have just transformed that energy. So the
concept of sexual energy is really a misnomer. It's not understood.
There is no sexual energy. there's just energy! And if we don't
regulate or direct that energy, it will direct us. But once we grab
hold of ourselves, and clarify our goals, and clarify our objectives,
and really make the sankalpa, the firm determination and definition of
that objective: "What are my values, what is important to me?" then, a
verse in the Bhagavad Gita says that all the thoughts flow through the
mind of the muni, but the muni never reacts. He is free from reaction.
Knock on the door, and there's nobody home. That is the degree of
vaiyagra, dispassion, freedom from misdirected passion, that we strive
to attain. We want to be passionate, but about the right things.
Swamiji continues, "When we can control our senses, then we can
achieve to the wisdom of Brahma, the wisdom of the Supreme Divinity,
by understanding this process. From the external, from the stimulation
of the lingam and the yoni, and from the production of shukra, we take
the shukra and extract the ojas. We let the ojas flow up until it
becomes tejas, and let the tejas continue up. We go from the tejamayi
kosha to the anandamayi kosha. There's an illumination. Then the
higher definition of shukra as bright, clear, illuminating, becomes
ever more subtle, and we get to have the union in that way.
Swamiji asks, "Do you have any questions about it?"
One person asks, "When you move the energy with the bandhas, do you
use your breath?"
Swamiji responds, "Yes, you do. When you contract the muscles, you
breathe into it, and then you pull up that energy, just as though it
were ejaculating up, and you pull it higher, and higher, and don't let
it stop below. Let it go higher, and higher, and higher. Encourage it
to rise, and pull on it until you get it up to the madhyamikabandha,
and then when you have the madhyamikabandha, you're practicing the
pranayama, but you're constricting the solar plexus, so you don't have
a full purak, or a full rechak, because you've got a bandha. There's a
restriction; you're not practicing a full kumbaka.
Instead you are forcing the energy up higher and higher. Bring it to
the heart, and feel it in the heart. You know what it feels like when
your heart is so full, that your chest cavity can't contain it. You've
all had that experience. Your chest is just not big enough to contain
your heart; it's bursting. And breathe into that, and that's where the
ojas becomes tejas. And now you're not pulling on the subtle force of
life, you're pulling on light, radiant light! And you bring up that
light with the rising breath, uddhana, just higher and higher and
higher until this body is not sufficient to contain it. It just comes
right out the top, as though if you were to look down from the highest
heavens on that body meditating there, it would seem that that body is
just one part of you, because you've pulled the consciousness out of
it in the form of light.
Shree Maa comments, "That way you can get levitation."
Swamiji comments, "That's the true meaning of levitation; it's
removing your consciousness from the body, and looking down, raising
the consciousness up. Not necessarily raising the body.
Swamiji, "Are there other questions?"
One person asks, "Should this just be used when you feel that
stimulation; should one use these practices only then?"
Swamiji, "I would recommend using this technique primarily if you feel
any sexual stimulation, because you don't want to put yourself into a
position of stimulation. But if you were to feel stimulation, then
there are two choices, you can let it out, or you can bring it up.
Now, if you let it out, you want to let it out with all purity, and
all thankfulness, and all gratefulness, and all surrender, as the
greatest expression of the seeds of life uniting in the purest,
clearest, most dharmik way possible. But even better is to bring it
up, and turn the shukra into ojas, and the ojas into tejas, and the
tejas into chit shakti, the energy of consciousness. It becomes filled
with the energy of consciousness. So this would be a technique if you
feel yourself prone to sexual stimulation, and I guarantee you that
within some time of practice, you'll forget all about the sexuality of
it, and just look at the transformation of energy. It won't be a
sexual stimulation anymore. It will be part of a technique of
meditation.
Swamiji, "Are there any other questions?"
One individual asks, "When we are meditating, and we can feel that
tejas in our heart, can this come spontaneously during meditation?
Swamiji responds, "Yes, it can, absolutely, and you want it to. It
doesn't have to be the result of sexual stimulation. It could be just
filling your heart, and not practicing the mulabandha or the
madyamikabandha, but going right to the uttarbandha. If you are free
from sexual stimulation, then you can just go directly to the
uttarbandha. Fill your chest full of that love, that energy, that
bhava, and then make your heart so big that your chest can't contain
it anymore, and then take that tejas shakti and bring it up. It
doesn't have to start from sexuality.
But if you have sexual stimulation, then there are only two choices,
let it out, or bring it up. And this is a system by which we can bring
it up. So that's why we wanted to share that.
Om Sam Saraswatyai Namah!
Keeper 2
very high up positions across the globe, you should see my email list
and the list that I am included on as well. Some very prominent people
I associate with. I copyright all my information and writings due to
the fact that I write Non Fiction mostly and have had my writings
stolen and used and also I am beginning to write Fiction but based on
fact,
My suggestion to you would be to go seek help for your denial issues
and inferiority complex
good day to you sir
Jewels
Chilla
Let's go through this.
Dr. Michael Salla: Has been discredited many times, supporting sources
range from misrepresentation of credentials to falsehoods. Would I
trust this man... not likely.
Dan Burisch: Makes a lot of claims, again all unsubstantiated. Either
he's a glory seeker, or he's been directed to spread mis-information.
James Bartlett: Delusion, experimental aircraft, or glory seeker, or
worse a mis-information disseminator (my vote is for the last one).
Alex Collier: More unfounded claims.
Basically I could go through this entire list and easily pick it to
pieces, there is not one atom of proof in any of it.
UFO came into notoriety, as I stated before in the 50's, it was then
that we started to "fit" drawings and art from history into the UFO culture.
If I were to say to you that I was surgically altered to look human and
that I miss the vision provided by having 5 eyes, and that I'm still
getting used to having 5 fingers. I have lots of scars, on my hands
from the surgery, and that I have a recall button on the base of my
right hand. The button is about the size of a nickel. I am allergic to
garlic and sulphur. I would also develop rashes where my skin was
exposed to sunlight.
I can "fit" peculiarities of my body into the above story, and there
would be a lot of people that would believe me.
Let's break this down quickly :-
* My cranium looks weird, as I have an unusual amount of brain mass,
this is a documented medical condition. I have a slight vertical brow
ridge.
* My fingers and hands are scarred and have suffered dislocations and
fractures... what can I say I was a rough kid.
* The recall button is a ganglion, that happened due to injury and was
compounded due to extended resting on a hard mouse pad.
* I am allergic to garlic.
* I have an intolerance to sulphur, which when it first manifested,
showed as a skin reaction when struck with sunlight. I was popular that
week, as I would be able to replicate hand prints on my flesh.
If I was delusional I would have taken this and run with it. As I'm
not, they're merely medical amusements.
As to qualified people stating unprovable things, well that's just bad
science.
None of the people you mentioned have provided anything credible.
---
Physical manifestations of "mind trips", it has been known to happen,
but more often it's an injury suffered and the mind blocks it out.
I recently suffered a serious concussion. What was interesting about it
is that although I appeared conscious, I was not. Any injury suffered
when I was asleep is not remembered. Mysterious injuries that came from
nowhere.
There is a plausible explanation for everything.
---
The point is that there's no proof. Where there is "proof" it's easily
discredited, and there is a rational explanation to explain these things.
---
When things of such nature are brought up by ex-military, I tend to
think they were ordered to disseminate this information for a couple of
purposes.
1) When you join the military, you never leave it... ever.
2) The military would not allow you to learn anything that they did not
want you to believe.
3) Anyone that is about to say anything that the military want kept
secret disappear, yet these outspoken people still exist.
4) If there's a supposed alien threat, this leaves you wondering.
5) The purpose of dis-information is to make you believe something,
whilst covering something else up.
6) It's all about control.
---
On the contrary, I do believe in supernatural things, but when it comes
to aliens and UFOs, these are not supposed to be supernatural things,
but things of reality.
Therefore if they are supposed to be reality there has to be definite
proof of these things, otherwise it's belief only.
Regards Charles
Keeper 2 wrote:
> May I suggest to you go to a ET/UFO forum for there is alot for you to
> learn about this topic. May I suggest Dr.Michael Salla, Dan Bursich,
> James Bartlet an X Navy Intelligience Officer, Alex Collier, Project
> Camelot, Andrew Hennessey, Many of these are actual Doctors,
> Scientists, Scholars that are the top in their field and who ALL
> believe and know the reality of ETs are not in the mind at all, they
> are literal beings.. May I also suggest reading Out of the Ashes,
> study some Egyptology and Ancient Writings, Zacharia Stitich and a
> famous Doctor/Scholar who translated the Sumerian Tablets. Also Anne
> Hayes, Jordan Maxwell, David Icke, Budd Hopkins, Of course Dr. John
> Mack, Dr.Richard Hoagland and while your at it even Physicst Dan
> Winters, and Physicst Michio Kaku who also believes in ET.. Also some
> India Daily Tech articles.. Whitley Striber.
>
> rape victims dont get scars from imaginary mind trips ... But I could
> probably list about 100 Doctors or Scholars or more who have exposed
> ET presence and reality. Also people like Dr.Steve Greer and others
> who hold very high up titles in many fields including Military, NASA
> personel, United States Airforce Piolets, Presidents of the U.S such
> as Ronald Reagan and many with credentials you could not deny with
> status and knowledge for the most part.
<snip>
Chilla
I honestly think that people would be happier if they don't fear. If I
see someone suffering a fear based delusion it's a very humane thing to
suggest that they seek professional help. Is it not?
I really like human beings, they are my favorite creatures. Sure they
have their problems, but this is basically due to fear of something.
They are remarkable in that they make up all sorts of fantastic things
for very ordinary occurrences. Quixotism is very interesting.
I'm not a skeptic, but I do require proof for things that are supposed
to be real.
That crash in Roswell was declassified recently and it was simply a spy
plane accident. The government sent out a "story" to misdirect the
Russians about their spy technology.
What is more plausible.
1) The aliens have an accident for the first time ever in our recorded
history. OR...
2) Due to the cold war the American military did want the Russians
knowing of their spy planes, so made up a fantastic story. *** side
note: The Russians couldn't let the Americans have one up, so they
created a fake crash too, very soon after.
---
Time Travel: Is not possible, and leads to many theories, even the one
that disproves our existence (basically "I think therefore I am" means
nothing).
Provide a link please, and none of that Erik von Danekin stuff, as
he's a proven fraud, or worse doesn't check his facts before writing.
---
None of these people have provided any proof.
Like I said before I like to believe in aliens and UFO's, but as there's
no proof at all, it's very unlikely.
Everything has a reason.
Regards Charles
Keeper 2 wrote:
> May I also suggest when a person doesnt wish to face reality, that I
> am afraid that is a "break" but spare me the down casting. I went to
> school to get into psychology, amongst other things. this post below
> is very informative. Hope you can handle it, its the truth. The first
> thing skeptic do is down cast and call people unbalanced, delusional,
> having a break down.. geeze. give me a break, no pun intended.
>
> Jewels
>
> 2nd Post (doctors and scholars addition to this article)
>
> Time Travel:
<snip>
Chilla
All of these esoteric energies, are proven (and I use this word
lightly), by very dubious methods indeed. When held up to scientific
scrutiny and controlled test, they do not pass.
Of course I've read a lot about spiritual matters, I am a Christian
after all and have discovered a lot of freaky stuff. As I am the
closest thing you will ever come to a mad scientist, I had to look at
other possibilities as well.
I know about the Kundalini experiments, and I know that they are pseudo
science at best.
Alister Crowley, had ritualistic sex with his grandmother, and was a witch.
All of this stuff is pure belief, and if you believe something enough,
it will be real for you. If you believe something that is fictional, or
a figment, that's the heart of delusion.
This is like channeling, these things exist only in the mind of the
believer. Atlantis... please a science fiction story made up by Plato
to prove a moral point.
If things can't be proven then they are not a physical reality.
Regards Charles
Keeper 2 wrote:
<snip>
Chilla
That's wonderful, that you have written in front of thousands of people,
but we all have, the internet provides a huge audience.
These people you associate with, are they by chance in the UFO belief
community?
LOL, I deny nothing but false hood. If anything I have a superiority
complex, it comes with the mental condition I have. I am seeing someone
already, thank you for your concern.
Do you have a therapist?
Regards Charles
Chilla
times.
I hope someone hasn't hacked your system.
Regards Charles
Keeper 2
Skepticism... geeze I almost feel embarrassed for you Charles. Your
initial post of calling someone psychotic didn't become you, nor make
you seem too believable when you attacked so readily at a post I
didn't write to you in the first place. I wrote to Cassandre. So be it
if your lack of understanding or knowledge keeps you from keeping up.
But surely the Doctors, Scientists, Scholars of these Prestigious
Universities, as well as the Physics persons would be a better bet to
listen to.
You should know though I feel embarrassed for you and you are a case
in point to the article of Pathological Skepticism.. And if you only
would take your fingers and type in the keyboard to go check out the
credentials and knowledge of such people, you would surely shrink to
smaller size then you seem to have done by attacking a person who
wrote to another woman on this group. Surely you can't compare
yourself to some of the greatest minds in the scientific and spiritual
communities, you didn't even read the posts I sent in for had you
would be be embarrassed for yourself as well.
Hope you work through the superior/inferior complex issue. they do
have help for that and pills to take. I grew up in a family of Mensa
folks, you probably dont know what that is either, but your arrogance
ignorance don't bother me too much sir.. Instead I feel sorry for you.
Neanderthal period is over, you need to catch up with the rest of the
men in society, and work out those past lives to get to the next
stage. Have a good day..
Jewels
Keeper 2
several.
Keeper 2
not made in a lab.. geeze louise get back jack.. Its a natural
spiritual energy that comes to those that are awakened and has been
written about for thousands of years. No lab tests needed. lol
But actually, when you called yourself a "Mad Scientist"
ok... lets leave it at that.. Your "Mad' but your no scientist... And
if you be Christian then you know that it was a copy of Sumerian times
right and that most of it was tampered with right? and you studied the
history of the changing of the words within it right? and you know
about the Annuanki then right and the Nephilim, and them being ETs/
Fallen Angels right? because if you are Christian then you deny your
own book you read. For they are all written within there. In fact any
time you think of the word Angel, it means Watcher and anytime you
think of an Angel or even God for that matter, it is Extraterrestrial
for anything not of Terra Earth is Extra-Terra.. Anyway, after you go
study for another 10 years and read the things I have come back and we
can have a Chess game of knowledge but until then, I'm signing you
off.. Insecurity does not fit a man..
take care, Jewels
Keeper 2
you didn't know who those men were and people i mentioned by saying,
"Who are these people are" and had to ask in they are in the UFO
community.. And I'm suppose to believe you know who they are now.. You
have never researched any of them, you are totally and utterly
ignorant of all you said, and also you are speaking from a Christian
point of view, with closed mind, eyes, spirit because you believe the
things that have been shoveled out to you and your too scared and
freightened to think out of the box.. So to even compare yourself to a
"Mad Scientist" which you said you were, just tells me it's a waist of
time trying to have an intellectual conversation with a person that
doesn't read or study and who still lives in Neanderthal times .. I'd
like to see you at a conference with these Docs that worked for NASA
and Physics persons, and try to do your thing.. You wouldnt last a
moment.
lol Take care, I'm done responding to your ignorance.. If you want to
know what a "Psychic Vampire" is, take a look in your mirror dude for
that is what the want-a-be's do, they go round and round in circles
trying to act like they know things that they dont to suck folks into
contrary condescending conversations, who really are only want-a-be
Psychic Vampires for the real ones are much more intelligent, stronger
and less insecure.
Jewels
Keeper 2
Above Link by famous Physics Leader Michio Kaku VIDEO's ( I dont think
he suffered from a fall on the head, or delusional psychotic breaks)
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Keeper 2
work, he is a brilliant scientist and he is known to be able to sit
there and speak to his peers in the most complicated understanding of
physics YET he writes in laymen terms for those others who are not in
the know of this subject. In that way he is one of the most down to
earth Scientists on the earth today and has been a great help to
making those with more simple minds understand the things not of our
world and also to help folks think out of the box of their own
conditioned thinking process. You can join his list to get his updates
as well. He has some wonderful books to help folks understand physics
and he talks about Extraterrestrials all the time. He is one of the
MOST Sane men on Earth today.
take care, Jewels
Chilla
Really and being a follower of UFO lore you should realise that the
Greys actually created us.
All I have to say to you, is where is your proof?
Dr. X says that "aliens are real you can trust me... I'm a Doctor".
You can insult me as much as you like, it means nothing.
Okay I'll see you in 10 years, maybe you'll have something substantial then.
Regards Charles
P.S. As to Christianity, you really don't know anything about it do you?
Chilla
You shouldn't be embarrassed for me, I'm actually responding to you so
that you can talk :-)
I haven't called anyone psychotic directly, but people can have
psychotic breaks to help them overcome difficult experiences. You
mentioned rape. Rapists "are" monsters. The mind can protect you with
many tricks. If it helps you to say that you were raped by shape
changing aliens, and it doesn't lead you down a path of fear, then
that's fine.
Seriously though, if someone came up to you with zero credentials, and
zero proof, and said that they were currently possessed by the devil,
you'd think that they were a tad ill.
Seriously any professional or academic that does not present proof and
basically says "trust me". Does not make for solid evidence.
If a high up religious figure told you that it's God's will that you
don't used birth control, and you shouldn't question him because he's
God's representative on Earth. He's the most qualified to talk about
God right? Qualifications don't make things true.
LOL I was asked to join Mensa, what a waste of time, I turned it down.
"I belong to Mensa therefore I'm smarter than you", elitist crap.
There's too much to do to waste time on meaningless organisations.
There's no need to feel sorry for me, I can back up what I say with
solid evidence, that's all that matters.
Regards Charles
Chilla
I know who most of these people are, and I know that none have provided
anything substantial.
As to my Christianity, this is where you are in the dark. My
Christianity is felt, not read.
I would love to see these people at a conference also, but unfortunately
conferences such as these are usually held in the States, and I don't
have the money for that.
I think I'd last a long time, I'd simply ask them for proof.
Again you resort to insults.
Psychic vampires only exist in their own minds. They do not exist. One
such individual, stated that if he couldn't get enough "psychic energy",
he'd have to resort to eating pro biotic yoghourt :-\
Psychic vampires, or as you said earlier Reptilians, are rapists. No
thanks. Rape is the worst crime.
I have zero sympathy for rapists, or anyone that protects them.
Regards Charles
Chilla
there are three copies.
Just make sure you don't have any trojans on board. I was in IT for
many years and some of the things that can be done to someone's computer
without their knowledge, is quite amazing.
Have no fear I am not a hacker or virus write, but seriously make sure
your computer is secure.
Regards Charles
Cassandre
Hi,
I thank you for the information you gave but i think it is not the
right group for my questions ;-).
Thanks to everybody who answered, those who tried and helped.
As I said these topics are so "wide", I cannot share everything I
think about them.
For those who are skeptical, so be it ! For me, if you have not lived
the experiments, that's normal, even sane.
As for UFO etc. I do not know but I keep this point of view in a
corner of my brain.
May 2010 be a bright year for you all,
Cassandre