MOORMAN Polaroid pre-mortal impact?
DRoberdeau
MOORMAN polaroid (who Marsh, imho, convincingly *nailed down* on his site as
being exposed concurrently with Zf-315.6) was actually exposed before ANY
impact to the President's head.
What is your opinion?
Don
CV-67, "Big John," USS John F. Kennedy Plank Walker
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-ALAN DULLES, former CIA Director & Warren Commissioner
Michael
back of the President's head. The typical very grainy and contrasted print
most have seen makes this impossible to see. I wish I had the ability to
post my copy of this picture. It would end any discussion of "Moorman photo
is pre-head shot".
Michael
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AnthonyMarsh
>
> In a good copy of the Moorman photograph you can actually see damage to the
> back of the President's head. The typical very grainy and contrasted print
> most have seen makes this impossible to see. I wish I had the ability to
> post my copy of this picture. It would end any discussion of "Moorman photo
> is pre-head shot".
>
I think you can see disruption of the hair in the back of the head, but I don't
think you can see skull or scalp damage in the back of the head.
So, what is this copy which you think is so much better but you can't post it?
There are various versions of the Moorman photo out there.
> Michael
>
> "DRoberdeau" <drobe...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> > Good Day.... got into a discussion recently with someone who contended
> that the
> > MOORMAN polaroid (who Marsh, imho, convincingly *nailed down* on his site
> as
> > being exposed concurrently with Zf-315.6) was actually exposed before ANY
> > impact to the President's head.
> >
> > What is your opinion?
> >
> > Don
> > CV-67, "Big John," USS John F. Kennedy Plank Walker
> > Sooner, or later, the Truth emerges Clearly
> > http://members.aol.com/droberdeau/JFK/DP.jpg
> >
> > "Don't worry about it.... Americans don't read."
> >
> > -ALAN DULLES, former CIA Director & Warren Commissioner
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Anthony Marsh
The Puzzle Palace http://www.boston.quik.com/amarsh
Sam McClung
http://www.flash.net/~sammc/templewound.html
John McAdams
>Good Day.... got into a discussion recently with someone who contended that the
>MOORMAN polaroid (who Marsh, imho, convincingly *nailed down* on his site as
>being exposed concurrently with Zf-315.6) was actually exposed before ANY
>impact to the President's head.
>
>What is your opinion?
>
Can you post a source of Tony's analysis? Is it on his web site?
It if was shot at Z-frame 315, it clearly shows the back of Kennedy's
head intact. So much for the "back of the head blown out" nonsense.
.John
--
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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
lonegunner2
> On 04 Feb 2002 16:33:12 GMT, drobe...@aol.com (DRoberdeau) wrote:
>
> >Good Day.... got into a discussion recently with someone who contended that the
> >MOORMAN polaroid (who Marsh, imho, convincingly *nailed down* on his site as
> >being exposed concurrently with Zf-315.6) was actually exposed before ANY
> >impact to the President's head.
> >
> >What is your opinion?
> >
>
> Can you post a source of Tony's analysis? Is it on his web site?
>
> It if was shot at Z-frame 315, it clearly shows the back of Kennedy's
> head intact. So much for the "back of the head blown out" nonsense.
Hey dipshit...read:
http://www.jfk-assassination.de/WCH/mcclelland.html
Mr. Specter.
Before proceeding to describe what you did in connection with the
tracheostomy, will you more fully describe your observation with
respect to the head wound?
Dr. McClelland.
As I took the position at the head of the table that I have already
described, to help out with the tracheotomy, I was in such a position
that I could very closely examine the head wound, and I noted that the
right posterior portion of the skull had been extremely blasted. It
had been shattered, apparently, by the force of the shot so that the
parietal bone was protruded up through the scalp and seemed to be
fractured almost along its right posterior half, as well as some of
the occipital bone being fractured in its lateral haft, and this
sprung open the bones that I mentioned in such a way that you could
actually look down into the skull cavity itself and see that probably
a third or so, at least, of the brain tissue, posterior cerebral
tissue and some of the cerebellar tissue had been blasted out. There
was a large amount of bleeding which was occurring mainly from the
large venous channels in the skull which had been blasted open.
>
> .John
Robert Harris
drobe...@aol.com (DRoberdeau) wrote:
> Good Day.... got into a discussion recently with someone who contended
that the
> MOORMAN polaroid (who Marsh, imho, convincingly *nailed down* on his site as
> being exposed concurrently with Zf-315.6) was actually exposed before ANY
> impact to the President's head.
>
> What is your opinion?
Of course the Moorman photo was taken after 313.
And yes, there is no visible damage whatsoever to the back of the head
then. The same is true of frames in the Zapruder film between 313 and the
320's.
But look at the back of Kennedy's head in the 330's - particularly 335 and
337 which are relatively clear. The back of the head by then, is totally
devastated.
What I have been trying to get across for years is that the first shot at
312-313 did indeed, come from the rear. The second one came from the front
and exited in the cowlick area, taking with it, considerable skull,
tissue, and blood. But prior to that second head shot, the back of
Kennedy's head was totally intact.
Robert Harris
Sam McClung
the rear exit wound and what may even be a bright spot, presumably
sunlight reflected through the entrance wound, seen through the
exit wound
http://www.flash.net/~sammc/exitwound.html
tom wilson (deceased) digitally analyzed the moorman photo and saw
this digitally and built a mathematical 3d model of the head,
showing the bullet entrance and split and he hypothesized the
bullet, split in two pieces, exited from two places, the back of
head and the left side...this is in the men who killed kennedy
the problem with tom's storm drain trajectory hypothesis is he
didn't consider a mercury round bouncing off the skull bone and
being knocked off a straight line path and absorbed partially or
completely by the head...also, he wasn't aware of my work showing
the sniper behind the fence holding the smoking sniping rifle in
two photos and also the smoking suppresser (silencer - sic) in a
3rd photo
http://www.flash.net/~sammc/sniper-z.html
http://www.flash.net/~sammc/silencer.html
sniping outfit $40
sniping rifle $5,000
secure location in Dealey Plaza on 11-22-63 $3,000
getting captured in the photographic evidence: P R I C E L E S S
AnthonyMarsh
>
> close examination of a digital copy of the moorman photo reveals
> the rear exit wound and what may even be a bright spot, presumably
> sunlight reflected through the entrance wound, seen through the
> exit wound
> http://www.flash.net/~sammc/exitwound.html
>
That is totally ridiculous. You are exactly the person I was talking about when
I complained about the wackos who have arrows pointing to totally black areas of
a picture. And what you label as a hand is ridiculously out of scale and could
not possible be JFK's hand. If you compare that angle to the Zapruder film, he
had no hand in that position.
> tom wilson (deceased) digitally analyzed the moorman photo and saw
> this digitally and built a mathematical 3d model of the head,
> showing the bullet entrance and split and he hypothesized the
> bullet, split in two pieces, exited from two places, the back of
> head and the left side...this is in the men who killed kennedy
>
> the problem with tom's storm drain trajectory hypothesis is he
> didn't consider a mercury round bouncing off the skull bone and
> being knocked off a straight line path and absorbed partially or
> completely by the head...also, he wasn't aware of my work showing
> the sniper behind the fence holding the smoking sniping rifle in
> two photos and also the smoking suppresser (silencer - sic) in a
> 3rd photo
> http://www.flash.net/~sammc/sniper-z.html
> http://www.flash.net/~sammc/silencer.html
>
His work was also flawed by the fact that there was no clear shot at JFK's head
at Z-313 from the storm drain.
> sniping outfit $40
> sniping rifle $5,000
> secure location in Dealey Plaza on 11-22-63 $3,000
> getting captured in the photographic evidence: P R I C E L E S S
Michael
Michael
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Robert Harris
Yes, Kennedy was not visible to a storm drain shooter at Z-312 but he
became fully visible by Z-323. That is not a coincidence.
Look at the back of Kennedy's head at Z335 and 337. Compare it with say,
317 or the Moorman photo.
Now, look at the angles:
http://homepage.mac.com/reharris44/jfk/pix/z323.gif
The bullet entered the already devastated right temple area and exited in
the cowlick region, taking with it, the blood that spattered the
motorcycle officers, the tissue that Jackie retrieved from the back of the
trunk, as well as the skull piece that was described by Dr. Boswell as
having been flown into Bethesda on the night of the autopsy.
This is not a "theory". This is what really happened.
Robert Harris
Sam McClung
> Sam McClung wrote:
> >
> > close examination of a digital copy of the moorman photo reveals
> > the rear exit wound and what may even be a bright spot, presumably
> > sunlight reflected through the entrance wound, seen through the
> > exit wound
> > http://www.flash.net/~sammc/exitwound.html
> >
>
> That is totally ridiculous.
.
you would make a good juror, but...
our discussion was over long ago, marsh
go pet your carcano