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Re: JFK Assassination Forum Archives -- Misc. Topics Of Interest (Part 179)
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David Von Pein
Jan 31, 2012, 3:54:11 AM1/31/12
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ARCHIVED JFK ASSASSINATION FORUM POSTS OF INTEREST (PART 179):
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AIRCRAFT RADIO TRANSMISSIONS FROM NOVEMBER 22, 1963
(INCLUDING COMPLETE 2-HOUR, 22-MINUTE VERSION):
http://JFK-Archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/aircraft-radio-transmissions-11-22-63.html
"ORAL HISTORY" INTERVIEW EXCERPTS:
http://JFK-Archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/oral-history-excerpts.html
DOORWAY MAN:
http://JFK-Archives.blogspot.com/2012/01/doorway-man.html
PRESIDENT KENNEDY'S HEAD WOUNDS:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/974277394691068a
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/bbaa997bf914ab74
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/4ca6d485c1408c04
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/f853e72cea4eebdd
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/463d3dcbd5ccbef1
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/6ddf0b2648e4690f
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/1a2b2be80d7387c9
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/a57150792eb62e7e
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/b8252dca29634828
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/c5933483d5b5c033
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/877d6b625386f341
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/a83844f53f04ab75
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/4e72bf2132781a83
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/7b168d3a5bbc5206
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David Von Pein
Feb 4, 2012, 7:24:03 AM2/4/12
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GIL JESUS SAID:
The Conspirators selected the luncheon site / motorcade route.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Which means, according to the conspiracy theorist named Gilbert who
wrote the nonsense quoted above, that Kenneth O'Donnell (President
Kennedy's very good friend and personal aide) was one of the MAIN
"conspirators", because it was Mr. O'Donnell, like it or not, who put
the final stamp of approval on the Trade Mart as the site for the
November 22 Dallas luncheon (Warren Report, Page 31).
http://JFK-Archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-107.html
GIL JESUS SAID:
http://EducationForum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=18729&st=0&p=245598&#entry245598
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
http://EducationForum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=18729&st=0&p=245603&#entry245603
GIL JESUS SAID:
Thank you for posting that which I have already stated. Does that
prove your point? The Warren Report made statements that were NOT
supported by the testimony. There's a BIG difference between the White
House yielding to Connally and putting "the final stamp of approval"
on the location.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
No, not really. They are pretty much the same thing here. Because the
Trade Mart WAS selected as the luncheon site; and Kenneth P. O'Donnell
WAS the person who "made the final decision to hold the luncheon at
the Trade Mart" (direct quote from Page 31 of the Warren Commission
Report).
Ergo, Ken O'Donnell did ultimately put his seal of "approval" on the
Trade Mart.
But, aside from any semantics issues here, if Kenny O'Donnell (or
someone else in a very high position in President Kennedy's inner
circle) had truly wanted to nix the Trade Mart as the location for the
November 22 luncheon, then it would have been nixed. Simple as that.
And there would have been nothing that John Connally could have done
about it.
Yes, it's true that Connally wanted the luncheon to be held at the
Trade Mart. But if the Secret Service had told O'Donnell that they
just simply could not secure the balconies in that building properly
enough to ensure JFK's safety, then O'Donnell would have undoubtedly
nixed the Trade Mart as the luncheon site.
Don't you agree that that would have happened, Gil? Or were John
Connally's desires and wishes the only things that mattered to
O'Donnell, and to hell with the President's safety?
GIL JESUS SAID:
Your interpretation of the facts, as usual, is ridiculous.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Gil Jesus is obviously implying that John B. Connally was part of
something sinister when it comes to Connally pushing for the Trade
Mart as the Dallas luncheon site.
Because if that's NOT what you're implying in your first post [of the
Education Forum thread linked above], Gil, then what's the point of
highlighting things like "Governor" and "the Governor felt very
strongly on it".
You apparently want to believe that John Connally was a prime
conspirator in the murder of JFK. Otherwise, again, what's your point?
Your interpretation of the facts, as usual, is not only ridiculous --
it's insane.
And to illustrate just how insane Gil's theories can be, I offer up
the following prime example:
"Let's not forget that all of the previous three successful
Presidential assassinations were made from a distance of three feet or
less. In addition, the position of Kennedy's head at Z312, together
with the description by the witnesses of an entry wound in the right
front of the head and an exit wound in the right rear, would indicate
a trajectory of a shot coming out of the floorboard of the car. Let's
also not forget that Johnson's man Connally was less than 3 feet from
the President when he was murdered and was reportedly known to have
carried a gun strapped to his ankle. Think about it." -- Gil Jesus;
July 15, 2007 [original post below]
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/dd783b571f900c24
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