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David Von Pein

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Mar 14, 2008, 4:31:47 AM3/14/08
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RADIO INTERVIEW WITH MARK LANE (03/13/2008):


www.blackopradio.com/black365a.ram


===================================


Here are a few of the hilarious (and absurd) comments made by Mr. Lane
during the above-linked 43-minute interview:

"Vinnie Bugliosi wrote a book...in which he defamed a number of
people, including me. I couldn't find anything that he wrote in the
book which was accurate, although I'm sure there's something there
that's accurate." -- Mark Lane; March 2008


[DVP INTERJECTION: Lane goes on to say that he was contemplating a
defamation lawsuit against Bugliosi, but since, per Lane, VB's JFK
book is a book that "obviously nobody is reading", he decided to not
sue Vince.

But Lane said he WILL sue Tom Hanks and HBO is they decide to place
anything that VB wrote about Lane in the upcoming 2010 mini-series
(which Lane misstates as being a "13-part" series; it's slated to be a
10-part series, as of this writing).

My guess is, however, that Mark Lane's name will never even surface in
the TV series, because it's going to be a series revolving around Lee
Oswald and based on mainly two chapters within VB's book (the
chronological "Four Days" first chapter, plus the "LHO" bio chapter).]

===================

"Obviously, Oswald could not have been convicted based upon
everything the Warren Commission had, because there's no evidence that
Oswald was involved in shooting the President." -- Mark Lane; March
2008

===================


"The Warren Commission concluded that Oswald had been to Mexico
City. .... Where's the evidence? .... They couldn't find any evidence
that Oswald had been there. .... I don't believe Oswald was in Mexico
City." -- Mark Lane; March 2008


[DVP INTERJECTION: Mr. Lane then goes on to indirectly (almost
directly) accuse Priscilla Johnson-McMillan of planting a Mexico City
bus ticket in a book at the motel where Marina Oswald was staying
after the assassination.

Of course, Mr. Lane totally ignores the wealth of hard evidence that
proves beyond ALL doubt that Oswald travelled to Mexico in September
'63, including the hotel register with Oswald's own name on it (proven
to be his handwriting), plus the witnesses on the bus who observed and
TALKED WITH Oswald during his Mexico excursion....plus some of the
best evidence of all -- Marina Oswald's detailed WC testimony, wherein
she talks at some length about her husband's September trip to Mexico.

I guess Mark Lane thinks Marina was a liar (or was coerced into
testifying the way she did about the Mexico trip).

And there are also the detailed accounts of the Embassy employees who
talked to Oswald at both the Soviet and Cuban Embassies in Sept. of
1963.

Are those Embassy employees all liars too, Mr. Lane?]

===================

aeffects

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Mar 14, 2008, 4:39:11 AM3/14/08
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On Mar 14, 1:31 am, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
> RADIO INTERVIEW WITH MARK LANE (03/13/2008):
>
> www.blackopradio.com/black365a.ram
>
> ===================================
>
> Here are a few of the hilarious (and absurd) comments made by Mr. Lane
> during the above-linked 43-minute interview:

I bet Len Osanic (Black Op Radio) had the best audience numbers in the
history of his site...


> "Vinnie Bugliosi wrote a book...in which he defamed a number of
> people, including me. I couldn't find anything that he wrote in the
> book which was accurate, although I'm sure there's something there
> that's accurate." -- Mark Lane; March 2008

David, the Reclaiming History saga is moving to a close.... the
project failed, give up the blog, son! Even our alphabet agencies at
one time or other KNOW when to fold'em...

<snip>

Chuck Schuyler

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Mar 14, 2008, 12:27:04 PM3/14/08
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Per usual, Healy ignores the truth.

Reclaiming History has done VERY WELL in sales within the genre of
books it stacks up against in the history/current events type
category.

How many books are selected for big budget mini-series treatment? It
is quite an accomplishment, especially given the conventional kook
blather that "90% of the American public believe JFK was killed by a
plot" bullsh*t. One has to wonder why Hollywood execs would pour
millions and millions of dollars into a project when 90% of your
potential audience probably isn't interested in investing the time to
watch something they disagree with.

There is an extremely simple explanation as to why Lane postures and
rants and raves about Bugliosi but refuses to take action against him:

He has no case. Everything VB wrote about this venomous snake Lane is
true.

RH is a great book-not perfect, but it is an outstanding achievement.
Page after page after page in RH is filled with sound reasoning, logic
and the honest ring of truth.

What I think galls CT's is the fact that Bugs continually belittles
their stupid fantasies. CT's are used to being treated respectfully,
and VB takes off the gloves and mercilessly takes apart their idiotic
baloney.

Healy is upset because his "fake Zapruder" theory involving John
FRANCIS Kennedy didn't make it into the book for bashing by Bugs.

Relax, Healy...maybe your 'JFK Was Killed By A Flying Saucer Death Ray
Fired By The Greys From Zeta Reticuli' theory will gain some traction.


aeffects

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Mar 14, 2008, 12:57:14 PM3/14/08
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The Reclaiming History saga is about to become *mute* history... it's
author[s] are being pilloried by members of their own kind. the very
answer to that perplexing Lone Nut KOOK problem; how can we bolster
the Warren Commission Report? Well, now you know, it won't be through
your last, gasping, SBT breath....

The best you can up with is John Francis Kennedy? How sad....

This board has been exceptional this past week, clean, no clutter --
too damn bad alleged Nutter-KOOK authors apparently have signed their
rights away (to cover their true work? Why try to hide that, of ALL
things?)... would those agreements hold up in a court of law? Perhaps
David VonPein can ask his idol-worship

**p.s. we haven't forgot the 45 questions, nor the 16 smoking guns...
as Ben Holmes... posted in another today -- chop-chop kids! Time to
get real and show us your stuff, if you have anything to show of
course....

So now, its back to your Lone Nut funny farm, KOOK....

justm...@gmail.com

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Mar 14, 2008, 1:03:44 PM3/14/08
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> So now, its back to your Lone Nut funny farm, KOOK....- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Healy when are you going to understand NONE of the LN's on this board
give a rats ass about Holmes 45 questions or smoking guns? He's
ignored constantly...his only posts on here now are trying to make a
LN or even another CT appear wrong. His last bashing where he was
ripped to shreds says alot. His games no longer work on acj. Time for
Holmes and his cheerleading squad to move on. Don't forget to take
your Big Girl Panties with you when you leave!

Chuck Schuyler

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Mar 14, 2008, 1:45:58 PM3/14/08
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> So now, its back to your Lone Nut funny farm, KOOK....- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Healy, if you could put together a sentence that made any sense, you
might be interesting to trade jibes with.

You're so kooky that even Mega-Kooks like Fetzer disavow knowing who
you are.

Ask Holmes if he still thinks Chaney saw the motorcade stop.


Bud

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Mar 14, 2008, 10:19:31 PM3/14/08
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David Von Pein wrote:
> RADIO INTERVIEW WITH MARK LANE (03/13/2008):
>
>
> www.blackopradio.com/black365a.ram
>
>
> ===================================
>
>
> Here are a few of the hilarious (and absurd) comments made by Mr. Lane
> during the above-linked 43-minute interview:
>
>
>
> "Vinnie Bugliosi wrote a book...in which he defamed a number of
> people, including me. I couldn't find anything that he wrote in the
> book which was accurate, although I'm sure there's something there
> that's accurate." -- Mark Lane; March 2008
>
>
> [DVP INTERJECTION: Lane goes on to say that he was contemplating a
> defamation lawsuit against Bugliosi, but since, per Lane, VB's JFK
> book is a book that "obviously nobody is reading", he decided to not
> sue Vince.

Who hasn`t heard blowhards use this one... "I`d fuck you up but I`m
afraid I`d hurt you".

> But Lane said he WILL sue Tom Hanks and HBO is they decide to place
> anything that VB wrote about Lane in the upcoming 2010 mini-series
> (which Lane misstates as being a "13-part" series; it's slated to be a
> 10-part series, as of this writing).

Some lawyer Lane is. He needs to watch "The People vs Larry Flynt".

> My guess is, however, that Mark Lane's name will never even surface in
> the TV series, because it's going to be a series revolving around Lee
> Oswald and based on mainly two chapters within VB's book (the
> chronological "Four Days" first chapter, plus the "LHO" bio chapter).]

Lane probably doesn`t think the assassaination can be talked about
without mentioning him.

> ===================
>
> "Obviously, Oswald could not have been convicted based upon
> everything the Warren Commission had, because there's no evidence that
> Oswald was involved in shooting the President." -- Mark Lane; March
> 2008

<snicker> "no evidence..." Oswald, the teflon assassin.

David Von Pein

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Mar 14, 2008, 10:51:14 PM3/14/08
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MARK LANE BELLOWED:


>>> "Obviously, Oswald could not have been convicted based upon everything the Warren Commission had, because there's no evidence that Oswald was involved in shooting the President." <<<


BUD THEN SAID:


>>> "<snicker> "no evidence..." Oswald, the teflon assassin." <<<


DVP NOW SAYS:


Unless my crystal ball has blown a fuse, I'd be willing to bet that
Robert Caprio (aka: the kook who has said multiple times to this
aggregation that "LHO SHOT NO ONE") will be very pleased at having
seen my post regarding Mr. Lane's above-mentioned quote. Robby's
probably doing cartwheels in his den, which is filled with books by
people like Lane, Armstrong, Waldron, Groden, Fetzer, and Marrs (et
al).

To tell you the Gospel truth here, I had never really considered Mark
Lane to be among the "Anybody But Oswald" kooks that we have floating
around today.

I hadn't really thought too much about Lane's exact "theories" on the
case, but his comment above (from his Mar. 13th "Black Op Radio"
appearance) about there being "no evidence that Oswald was involved in
shooting the President" gives cause to re-think Lane's official "CTer"
status.

Should I now place him (officially) in the "Mega-Kook" class? Or just
leave him in a lesser category of:

"CTer/Lawyer Who Saw An Ideal Chance To Represent Oswald And/Or
LHO's Mama In The Biggest Case Of The 20th Century And Decided To
Capitalize On That Fame As Much As He Possibly Could By Skewing/
Misrepresenting The Record In The Case As Much As Possible To Try And
Convince The American Book-Buying And Movie-Watching Public That Some
Kind Of Conspiracy Existed In Dallas To Murder President John F.
Kennedy On Friday, November Twenty-Second, Nineteen Sixty-Three,
A.D."?


(It's a lengthy category for my file drawer....but it might just
apply.)

aeffects

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Mar 15, 2008, 3:45:20 AM3/15/08
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Just think of those large royalty checks. The ones you're not
participating in... not even a couple of points on the backside...

All that work and nada... ghostwriters paid hundreds of thousands of
dollars, including their silence....

Did Bugliosi break loose a free book? 20 years of work? Bullshit!
You're shilling for someone whose credibility is in the tank, Dave...

LMFAO, C'mon Dave, they can't all be that stupid in Indiana.....

Walt

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Mar 15, 2008, 9:26:35 AM3/15/08
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On 14 Mar, 20:19, Bud <sirsl...@fast.net> wrote:
> David Von Pein wrote:
> > RADIO INTERVIEW WITH MARK LANE (03/13/2008):
>
> >www.blackopradio.com/black365a.ram
>
> > ===================================
>
> > Here are a few of the hilarious (and absurd) comments made by Mr. Lane
> > during the above-linked 43-minute interview:
>
> >       "Vinnie Bugliosi wrote a book...in which he defamed a number of
> > people, including me. I couldn't find anything that he wrote in the
> > book which was accurate, although I'm sure there's something there
> > that's accurate." -- Mark Lane; March 2008
>
> > [DVP INTERJECTION: Lane goes on to say that he was contemplating a
> > defamation lawsuit against Bugliosi, but since, per Lane, VB's JFK
> > book is a book that "obviously nobody is reading", he decided to not
> > sue Vince.
>
>    Who hasn`t heard blowhards use this one... "I`d fuck you up but I`m
> afraid I`d hurt you".
>
> > But Lane said he WILL sue Tom Hanks and HBO is they decide to place
> > anything that VB wrote about Lane in the upcoming 2010 mini-series
> > (which Lane misstates as being a "13-part" series; it's slated to be a
> > 10-part series, as of this writing).

It will be interesting to see if HBO actually produces a mini series
based on Da Bugs "cinder block" book. I know that the governments
propaganda machine is deaperate to close the door on the assassination
once and for all....but I've got an idea they'll be shittin in there
own mess kit if they try to shove the Warren Commission's crap down
our throats again.

> > ===================- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

aeffects

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Mar 15, 2008, 12:49:21 PM3/15/08
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they've nothing else to sell Walt.... btw, I've heard scuttle-butt,
only one segment in the program series (10 programs) will cover JFK...
they'll be all over the place for a while...

I'm sure the 03-13-2008 Mark Lane (Black Op Radio) segment has a few
eyes and ears and budgets re-evaluating

Bud

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Mar 15, 2008, 5:41:54 PM3/15/08
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I think this series will signal the death knell for conspiracy
thinking on this subject. I think by episode 6 or so, even hardcore
conspiracy idiots like you Walt will realize that this event actually
could only have happened as the WC concluded..

> > � �Some lawyer Lane is. He needs to watch "The People vs Larry Flynt".

aeffects

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Mar 15, 2008, 7:59:21 PM3/15/08
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On Mar 15, 6:26 am, Walt <papakochenb...@evertek.net> wrote:


they'd be fools to do more than 1 60:00 segment, based on what I was
told there NEVER was more than one episode and one ONLY (out of the
series) planned concerning JFK

David Von Pein

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Mar 16, 2008, 2:59:32 AM3/16/08
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>>> "I think this series will signal the death knell for conspiracy thinking on this subject. I think by episode 6 or so, even hardcore conspiracy idiots like you Walt will realize that this event actually could only have happened as the WC concluded." <<<


The above comment is something I'm very, VERY surprised to hear coming
from my Internet friend, Bud.

Never thought I'd hear him say such a thing to Walt "Mega-Kook"
PastryLoaf (er...make that Cakebread).

But, knowing the kook named Cakebread as we all do around these here
parts....I'm quite certain Bud will turn out to be incorrect with
respect to his above prediction.

For, it's doubtful that the "RH" miniseries will suddenly make Walt
grow some CS&L regarding the subject of the JFK assassination. Walt
has invested too much shoe leather and way too many computer
keystrokes in his insane conspiracy-flavored theories to suddenly
perform a complete about-face because of Tom Hanks and Vin Bugliosi.

Footnote --

Knowing how Bud has a great ability for "jabbing" the enemy (i.e., the
CT kooks) with great subtlety on occasion (many times without the
kooks even knowing they've been "jabbed" with Bud's stick of
subtlety), I'm wondering if maybe I'm misreading Bud's "prediction"
above? Maybe it's merely a tongue-in-cheek type of "jab" of some sort
that I simply cannot see at the moment.

If not, it's a very surprising comment coming from Bud.

Bud

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Mar 16, 2008, 6:46:23 AM3/16/08
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David Von Pein wrote:
> >>> "I think this series will signal the death knell for conspiracy thinking on this subject. I think by episode 6 or so, even hardcore conspiracy idiots like you Walt will realize that this event actually could only have happened as the WC concluded." <<<
>
>
> The above comment is something I'm very, VERY surprised to hear coming
> from my Internet friend, Bud.
>
> Never thought I'd hear him say such a thing to Walt "Mega-Kook"
> PastryLoaf (er...make that Cakebread).
>
> But, knowing the kook named Cakebread as we all do around these here
> parts....I'm quite certain Bud will turn out to be incorrect with
> respect to his above prediction.

Ha! My predictions are never wrong. I predict Healy will get off
drugs, Gil Jesus will get a job and Ben will get a personality also.

> For, it's doubtful that the "RH" miniseries will suddenly make Walt
> grow some CS&L regarding the subject of the JFK assassination. Walt
> has invested too much shoe leather and way too many computer
> keystrokes in his insane conspiracy-flavored theories to suddenly
> perform a complete about-face because of Tom Hanks and Vin Bugliosi.
>
> Footnote --
>
> Knowing how Bud has a great ability for "jabbing" the enemy (i.e., the
> CT kooks) with great subtlety on occasion (many times without the
> kooks even knowing they've been "jabbed" with Bud's stick of
> subtlety), I'm wondering if maybe I'm misreading Bud's "prediction"
> above? Maybe it's merely a tongue-in-cheek type of "jab" of some sort
> that I simply cannot see at the moment.

I`m shocked you would think I would write something just to cause
a CT discomfort.

David Von Pein

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Mar 16, 2008, 7:07:31 AM3/16/08
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>>> "I`m shocked you would think I would write something just to cause a CT discomfort." <<<


L-oh-L

Excellent job on this post below Bud:


www.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/be96a1bd924a164b


I will freely and humbly admit that you fooled the heck out of me via
the 'serious' tone that you seemed to be utilizing in that post
regarding the HBO miniseries. I thought you were being dead serious
(although I did place a "possible tongue-in-cheek" footnote in my last
post, in order to cover myself on that point). ~wink~

David Von Pein

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Mar 16, 2008, 7:22:28 AM3/16/08
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Hey Bud,

Did you happen to listen to the Steve Allen/Jim Garrison interview
that I talked about the other day? Here's the link again:

www.blackopradio.com/black365c.ram


I think you'd enjoy that program. Kook Garrison is cut down to size by
a Mr. Dornan (who was a congressman or a senator or a Grand-Poobah of
some sort, I can't recall which)...but he really rips into the
"idiocy" of the "insanity of the conspiracy culture in this
country" (paraphrased Dornan quote there).

And that was in 1971, 20 years BEFORE Oliver Stone's insane film even
came out!

It's a great show to listen to, with lots of heated debate going on,
with Garrison being relegated to somewhat a back-seat position by the
middle of that Steve Allen program. That's probably the best part of
all. ;)

Also: Pat Valentino (a CTer and frequent Black Op Radio guest) says
he's going to be providing an audio program of an old Merv Griffin
Show to the "Black Op" archives, wherein Griffin interviews DPD Chief
Jesse Curry just after Curry's book came out (which, I think, would
make it a 1969 program; if that's wrong, I'm sorry).

That should be an interesting rare program too.

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aeffects

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Mar 16, 2008, 12:19:43 PM3/16/08
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what we have here lurkers is Mr. Von Pein covering his ass (for good
reason), as a few here may have noticed :), Mr. Von Pein has begun the
Bugliosi distancing trick -- his support will wane over the next 6
months....

There's nothing like getting, NOTHING (read a check). Especially when
one does most of the work, in this case the USENET board[s], the
blog[s], bookstore site[s], maintaing the database, assigning wannabes
USENET eyeball, maintaining board & flaming duty. The heavy lifting if
you wish. Those big paydays for others will wear ones resolve done
every damn time.... Especially when you received Zero as in Z-E-R-O
and they received hundreds of thousands of dollars...

I'm ready to move on, you guys....?

aeffects

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Mar 16, 2008, 12:21:49 PM3/16/08
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On Mar 16, 4:22 am, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
> Hey Bud,
>
> Did you happen to listen to the Steve Allen/Jim Garrison interview
> that I talked about the other day? Here's the link again:
>
> www.blackopradio.com/black365c.ram
>

and what does Garrison have to do with this Mark Lane thread? Trying
to run and hide David Von Pein... Dudsters a minion, get out from
under his skirt....

aeffects

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Mar 17, 2008, 11:31:15 AM3/17/08
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what, no comment from HBO?

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