>>> "HUH!??? What the hell are you babbling about? Lee Oswald was already decaying and pushing up daisies when the authorities learned that he had been involved in the shooting at Walker's house in April of 63." <<<
Yes, of course.
But when I said this yesterday....
"Weren't the cops lucky that their patsy confessed to the
shooting you say he never committed?"
....I was obviously talking about the fact that Marina Oswald later
told the authorities and the WC that LHO had, in effect, "confessed"
to shooting at Walker.
In fact, the way things came to the attention of the police makes it
much LESS likely that anyone was "setting up" Oswald for ANY murders
or murder attempts in 1963.
Why?
Because the cops didn't know about Oswald's involvement in the Walker
shooting until AFTER HE WAS DEAD. The authorities had no idea that Lee
Oswald was involved in the Walker incident until many days after
11/22/63.
Therefore, if the cops were really framing Oswald for both the JFK and
Tippit murders on November 22, 23, and 24, 1963 (as many conspiracy
theorists believe), then the Dallas Police Department sure got a big
break when they found out, many days later, that the man they were in
the process of framing for the Kennedy and Tippit murders had, in
fact, really tried to kill another political figure seven months
earlier.
I think even most CTers will admit that a made-to-order patsy like
that doesn't fall into your lap every day of the week. How lucky can a
patsy-framer possibly get?!
Or, given the above-mentioned circumstances, a better question would
be:
How on Earth can anyone in their right mind truly believe that the
Dallas Police and the FBI were trying to frame Lee Oswald for the
murders of JFK and J.D. Tippit?
The conspiracy theorists love to sidestep (or just totally ignore)
Oswald's involvement in the Walker shooting. Because if they don't
ignore it or distort it, then the CTers will have to admit that the
man they think never fired a single shot at anyone on November 22,
1963, HAD MURDER RUNNING THROUGH HIS VEINS just seven months before
President Kennedy was assassinated. And that is something that
conspiracy theorists simply do not want to admit.
I think the following passage from the Warren Commission Report is
rather interesting too. This passage is referring to the evidence that
Lee Oswald left behind after he shot at General Walker in April 1963,
but it also parallels Oswald's actions and the evidence he left behind
after he shot JFK and Officer Tippit in November:
"Marina Oswald's testimony indicates that her husband was not
particularly concerned about his continued possession of the most
incriminating sort of evidence." -- Warren Report; Page 405
http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wr/html/WCReport_0215a.htm
I also want to point out the following section of testimony from
Marina Oswald. Marina told the Warren Commission this:
"He only told me that he had shot at General Walker." -- Marina
Oswald (1 H 16)
http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh1/html/WC_Vol1_0014b.htm
>>> "They [the DPD] COULD have asked him about his involvment in the Walker shooting (and we don't know that they didn't) on the evening of 11/22/63 because "someone" (Jack Ruby?) in the crowd called out to Chief Jesse Curry...."Chief, is this connected to the shooting at general Walker back in April?". ("THIS" was referring to the murder's of JFK and JDT.) Any thinking person would immediately ask themselves....Who was this man who attempted to tie Oswald to the Walker incident and the assassination of JFK? How would anybody know that Oswald was involved in the Walker incident?? That case was unsolved and there wasn't a hint that Oswald had been involved and yet some "reporter" tried to tie the two crimes together." <<<
Yes, a reporter did, indeed, ask Chief Jesse Curry if JFK's murder had
any connection to the Walker shooting. The reporter asked Curry that
question on 11/23/63, however, not on the 22nd. Curry's answer was: "I
do not know" (go to 6:47 of Part 1 below).
http://JFK-Archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/jesse-curry-interviews.html
I, too, thought it was rather interesting when I first heard that clip
of the reporter asking about any Walker tie-in. But to suggest that
the reporter was really Jack Ruby, and that Ruby was attempting to
frame Oswald in some way by bringing up the Walker incident during a
press conference with Chief Curry, is simply more naked and unprovable
speculation on the part of CTers.
Many people in Dallas knew about the unsolved Walker shooting. So it
certainly isn't beyond imagination to think that a crackerjack
reporter might have tied the two things together as of November 23rd.
And that, in fact, is precisely what did occur -- the reporter made a
good guess and tied the Walker shooting to the JFK assassination.
Simple as that. And, furthermore, his guess on 11/23/63 was absolutely
correct.
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ADDENDUM:
Here are some related excerpts from Vince Bugliosi's book concerning
Lee Harvey Oswald, Marina Oswald, and the attempted murder of General
Edwin Walker:
"Since we know that Oswald attempted to murder General Walker
because he confessed to his own wife that he did, nothing further is
required to make the point. But in addition to his letter of
instructions to Marina, which has survived, and has been confirmed to
be in Oswald's handwriting, as well as the photos Oswald took of
Walker's residence, there is some other independent evidence, though
not conclusive by itself, connecting Oswald to the attempted murder of
Walker.
"The Dallas police took the slug found at the Walker residence
to the Dallas City-County Investigation Laboratory at Parkland
Hospital on April 25, 1963, to see if lab technicians could determine
the type of gun from which it was fired. Within a few days the lab
reported back that it could not do so "because of the battered
condition of the bullet."
"On November 30, 1963, the FBI, thinking there possibly could be
a connection between the Kennedy assassination and the Walker
shooting, requested the bullet from the Dallas Police Department for
examination, and the local office of the FBI sent the slug by
registered mail to the FBI lab in Washington, D.C., on December 2,
1963.
"Robert Frazier, the FBI firearms expert, testified before the
Warren Commission that because of the mutilated condition of the
Walker bullet, he was "unable to reach a conclusion" as to whether or
not the bullet was fired from Oswald's Carcano rifle, the one he
determined was the weapon that killed President Kennedy. However, he
said that "the general rifling characteristics of the rifle 139
[Commission Exhibit No. 139, Oswald's Carcano] are of the same type as
those found on the bullet, [Commission] Exhibit [No.] 573 [Walker
slug]," and therefore, at least on this basis, "the bullet could have
been fired from the rifle."
"The general rifling characteristics on the Walker bullet and
the barrel of the Carcano were "four lands and grooves" with a "right"
twist. Frazier said the Walker bullet was fired from a Mannlicher-
Carcano rifle or one with similar barrel characteristics. Frazier also
said the "remaining physical characteristics of this bullet, 573, are
the same as Western [Cartridge Company] 6.5mm Mannlicher-Carcano
bullets...made for this rifle, 139.
"When Dr. Vincent Guinn made his neutron activation analysis of
the bullet for the HSCA, he determined that it was "extremely likely"
that the Walker bullet was a Mannlicher-Carcano bullet manufactured by
the Western Cartridge Company, the same as the ammunition used in the
Kennedy assassination (1 HSCA 502, HSCA testimony of Dr. Guinn on
September 8, 1978).
"The Dallas Police Department's "General Offense Report" on
April 10, 1963, its first report on the Walker shooting, described the
bullet as a "steel-jacketed bullet" (CE 2001, 24 H 39), whereas the
6.5-millimeter Mannlicher-Carcano bullets were copper-jacketed.
Frazier told the Warren Commission that "some individuals commonly
refer to rifle bullets as steel-jacketed bullets, when they actually
in fact just have a copper alloy jacket" (3 H 439).
"Although the bullet was too damaged to find the essential
"microscopic characteristics" (markings) to match up with the barrel
of Oswald's Carcano that would enable Frazier to connect the Walker
bullet to the Carcano to the exclusion of all other weapons,
importantly, Frazier said he found NO microscopic characteristics on
the bullet that would indicate it was NOT fired from the Carcano." --
Vincent Bugliosi; Pages 694-695 of "Reclaiming History"
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"When she [Marina Oswald] insisted on Oswald's innocence [during
a personal interview that Vincent Bugliosi had with Marina on November
30, 2000], suggesting he would never do such a murderous act, I
reminded her that he had, in fact, attempted to murder Major General
Edwin Walker, and she readily admitted he had, telling me she knew
this because "Lee told me he did." But she hastened to add that the
president was different because "Lee liked Kennedy." And Jack Duffy,
who has studied the assassination for years and leans toward the
conspiracy theory, asked Marina if she had taken "the backyard photos"
of Oswald holding the Carcano rifle. "Yes," she answered evenly, "I
did." "That settles that issue," Duffy said." -- Vincent Bugliosi;
Page 1487 of "Reclaiming History"