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"Bud" Labels Vincent Bugliosi A Liar!!!
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Ben Holmes
Apr 14, 2017, 9:17:45 PM4/14/17
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"The bus schedules indicate the bus stopped at her stop around 1:26."
Of course, Vincent Bugliosi, following Helen Markham's testimony, puts the bus at 1:15.
Bugliosi even argues that he knows of the 1:12 time, and DOESN'T BELIEVE that Helen Markham would say 1:15 for a 1:12 bus. (Of course, honest readers can easily disagree with such a silly assertion.)
Vincent Bugliosi would dismiss **even more strongly** a 1:26 bus time... if Bugliosi thought three minutes was enough to dismiss the 1:12 time, HE'D BE TELLING YOU THAT YOU'RE A FOOL FOR ACCEPTING AN 11 MINUTE DIFFERENCE.
(Which, by the way, most folks would refer to as a 1:25 time...)
So who's telling the lie?
Clearly - Bugliosi must be lying if "Bud" is telling the truth.
So tell us "Bud," why do you think Bugliosi was lying?
Of course, Vincent Bugliosi, following Helen Markham's testimony, puts the bus at 1:15.
Bugliosi even argues that he knows of the 1:12 time, and DOESN'T BELIEVE that Helen Markham would say 1:15 for a 1:12 bus. (Of course, honest readers can easily disagree with such a silly assertion.)
Vincent Bugliosi would dismiss **even more strongly** a 1:26 bus time... if Bugliosi thought three minutes was enough to dismiss the 1:12 time, HE'D BE TELLING YOU THAT YOU'RE A FOOL FOR ACCEPTING AN 11 MINUTE DIFFERENCE.
(Which, by the way, most folks would refer to as a 1:25 time...)
So who's telling the lie?
Clearly - Bugliosi must be lying if "Bud" is telling the truth.
So tell us "Bud," why do you think Bugliosi was lying?
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David Von Pein
Apr 14, 2017, 10:26:53 PM4/14/17
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Let's see what Mr. Bugliosi actually said about the "bus schedule" topic.....
---quote on:---
"Although an FBI report (CD 630[h]) says that Helen Markham’s bus, per the Dallas Transit System, came by each day “at about 1:12 p.m.,” not 1:15 p.m., I tend to doubt the 1:12 time for two reasons. Number one, the FBI never nailed down which of two separate buses Markham could have taken at Jefferson and Patton, not asking her what corner at the intersection she got on her bus.
Apparently, only one of the buses was scheduled to come by at 1:12, and the FBI never even alluded to the existence of another bus that stopped at a different corner of the intersection and would also have taken Markham downtown by a more indirect route (Myers, With Malice, p.597 footnote 154; CD 1128, p.3). Much more importantly, Markham, when asked by Warren Commission counsel, “You know what time you usually get your bus, don’t you?” she answered “1:15” (3 H 306).
And in an earlier FBI interview she said the bus came by at 1:15 p.m. (CD 630[c], p.1). Why in the world would she say 1:15 if it was 1:12? We know that Markham was not a bright woman, but she was smart enough to hold down a job as a waitress, where one has to deal with numbers on a customer’s bill, and smart enough to get to work every day.
It requires NO intelligence to read a watch or clock, and though the Dallas Transit System advised the FBI that the bus was scheduled to come at 1:12, I find it very hard to believe it routinely came by at that time. If it did, with Markham thinking it came by at 1:15, I wonder how she didn’t miss the bus a lot and was able to keep her job." -- Vincent Bugliosi; Via "Reclaiming History" Endnotes
CD630(c), page 1:
http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11029#relPageId=59
---quote on:---
"Although an FBI report (CD 630[h]) says that Helen Markham’s bus, per the Dallas Transit System, came by each day “at about 1:12 p.m.,” not 1:15 p.m., I tend to doubt the 1:12 time for two reasons. Number one, the FBI never nailed down which of two separate buses Markham could have taken at Jefferson and Patton, not asking her what corner at the intersection she got on her bus.
Apparently, only one of the buses was scheduled to come by at 1:12, and the FBI never even alluded to the existence of another bus that stopped at a different corner of the intersection and would also have taken Markham downtown by a more indirect route (Myers, With Malice, p.597 footnote 154; CD 1128, p.3). Much more importantly, Markham, when asked by Warren Commission counsel, “You know what time you usually get your bus, don’t you?” she answered “1:15” (3 H 306).
And in an earlier FBI interview she said the bus came by at 1:15 p.m. (CD 630[c], p.1). Why in the world would she say 1:15 if it was 1:12? We know that Markham was not a bright woman, but she was smart enough to hold down a job as a waitress, where one has to deal with numbers on a customer’s bill, and smart enough to get to work every day.
It requires NO intelligence to read a watch or clock, and though the Dallas Transit System advised the FBI that the bus was scheduled to come at 1:12, I find it very hard to believe it routinely came by at that time. If it did, with Markham thinking it came by at 1:15, I wonder how she didn’t miss the bus a lot and was able to keep her job." -- Vincent Bugliosi; Via "Reclaiming History" Endnotes
CD630(c), page 1:
http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11029#relPageId=59
Ben Holmes
Apr 15, 2017, 2:51:51 AM4/15/17
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"Bud" is desperately arguing that the bus came at 1:26.
Either "Bud" or Bugliosi is lying...
Who is it, David?
Who's lying?
Bud
Apr 15, 2017, 6:04:44 AM4/15/17
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> "Bud" is desperately arguing that the bus came at 1:26.
> Either "Bud" or Bugliosi is lying...
>
> Who is it, David?
>
> Who's lying?
Ben Holmes
Apr 15, 2017, 11:11:07 AM4/15/17
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On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 3:04:44 AM UTC-7, Bud wrote:
> On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 2:51:51 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> > On Friday, April 14, 2017 at 7:26:53 PM UTC-7, David Von Pein wrote:
> > > Let's see what Mr. Bugliosi actually said about the "bus schedule" topic.....
> > >
> > > ---quote on:---
> > >
> > > "Although an FBI report (CD 630[h]) says that Helen Markham’s bus, per the Dallas Transit System, came by each day “at about 1:12 p.m.,” not 1:15 p.m., I tend to doubt the 1:12 time for two reasons. Number one, the FBI never nailed down which of two separate buses Markham could have taken at Jefferson and Patton, not asking her what corner at the intersection she got on her bus.
> > >
> > > Apparently, only one of the buses was scheduled to come by at 1:12, and the FBI never even alluded to the existence of another bus that stopped at a different corner of the intersection and would also have taken Markham downtown by a more indirect route (Myers, With Malice, p.597 footnote 154; CD 1128, p.3). Much more importantly, Markham, when asked by Warren Commission counsel, “You know what time you usually get your bus, don’t you?” she answered “1:15” (3 H 306).
> > >
> > > And in an earlier FBI interview she said the bus came by at 1:15 p.m. (CD 630[c], p.1). Why in the world would she say 1:15 if it was 1:12? We know that Markham was not a bright woman, but she was smart enough to hold down a job as a waitress, where one has to deal with numbers on a customer’s bill, and smart enough to get to work every day.
> > >
> > > It requires NO intelligence to read a watch or clock, and though the Dallas Transit System advised the FBI that the bus was scheduled to come at 1:12, I find it very hard to believe it routinely came by at that time. If it did, with Markham thinking it came by at 1:15, I wonder how she didn’t miss the bus a lot and was able to keep her job." -- Vincent Bugliosi; Via "Reclaiming History" Endnotes
> > >
> > > CD630(c), page 1:
> > > http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11029#relPageId=59
> >
> >
> > So clearly, you agree that "Bud" has labeled Vincent Bugliosi a liar.
>
> Perhaps he wasn`t aware of the bus schedule.
Perhaps you're not aware of the contemporary investigation done by the FBI?
> On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 2:51:51 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> > On Friday, April 14, 2017 at 7:26:53 PM UTC-7, David Von Pein wrote:
> > > Let's see what Mr. Bugliosi actually said about the "bus schedule" topic.....
> > >
> > > ---quote on:---
> > >
> > > "Although an FBI report (CD 630[h]) says that Helen Markham’s bus, per the Dallas Transit System, came by each day “at about 1:12 p.m.,” not 1:15 p.m., I tend to doubt the 1:12 time for two reasons. Number one, the FBI never nailed down which of two separate buses Markham could have taken at Jefferson and Patton, not asking her what corner at the intersection she got on her bus.
> > >
> > > Apparently, only one of the buses was scheduled to come by at 1:12, and the FBI never even alluded to the existence of another bus that stopped at a different corner of the intersection and would also have taken Markham downtown by a more indirect route (Myers, With Malice, p.597 footnote 154; CD 1128, p.3). Much more importantly, Markham, when asked by Warren Commission counsel, “You know what time you usually get your bus, don’t you?” she answered “1:15” (3 H 306).
> > >
> > > And in an earlier FBI interview she said the bus came by at 1:15 p.m. (CD 630[c], p.1). Why in the world would she say 1:15 if it was 1:12? We know that Markham was not a bright woman, but she was smart enough to hold down a job as a waitress, where one has to deal with numbers on a customer’s bill, and smart enough to get to work every day.
> > >
> > > It requires NO intelligence to read a watch or clock, and though the Dallas Transit System advised the FBI that the bus was scheduled to come at 1:12, I find it very hard to believe it routinely came by at that time. If it did, with Markham thinking it came by at 1:15, I wonder how she didn’t miss the bus a lot and was able to keep her job." -- Vincent Bugliosi; Via "Reclaiming History" Endnotes
> > >
> > > CD630(c), page 1:
> > > http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11029#relPageId=59
> >
> >
> > So clearly, you agree that "Bud" has labeled Vincent Bugliosi a liar.
>
> Perhaps he wasn`t aware of the bus schedule.
Nah... You're just lying.
> > "Bud" is desperately arguing that the bus came at 1:26.
>
> I thought you claimed to follow the evidence. Were you lying?
You see, in order for *me* to be lying, Vincent Bugliosi & the FBI all have to be lying.
That's what *YOU* believe.
> > Either "Bud" or Bugliosi is lying...
> >
> > Who is it, David?
> >
> > Who's lying?
>
> Heres an easy one, who is retarded? You.
Bud
Apr 15, 2017, 1:50:32 PM4/15/17
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On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 11:11:07 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 3:04:44 AM UTC-7, Bud wrote:
> > On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 2:51:51 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> > > On Friday, April 14, 2017 at 7:26:53 PM UTC-7, David Von Pein wrote:
> > > > Let's see what Mr. Bugliosi actually said about the "bus schedule" topic.....
> > > >
> > > > ---quote on:---
> > > >
> > > > "Although an FBI report (CD 630[h]) says that Helen Markham’s bus, per the Dallas Transit System, came by each day “at about 1:12 p.m.,” not 1:15 p.m., I tend to doubt the 1:12 time for two reasons. Number one, the FBI never nailed down which of two separate buses Markham could have taken at Jefferson and Patton, not asking her what corner at the intersection she got on her bus.
> > > >
> > > > Apparently, only one of the buses was scheduled to come by at 1:12, and the FBI never even alluded to the existence of another bus that stopped at a different corner of the intersection and would also have taken Markham downtown by a more indirect route (Myers, With Malice, p.597 footnote 154; CD 1128, p.3). Much more importantly, Markham, when asked by Warren Commission counsel, “You know what time you usually get your bus, don’t you?” she answered “1:15” (3 H 306).
> > > >
> > > > And in an earlier FBI interview she said the bus came by at 1:15 p.m. (CD 630[c], p.1). Why in the world would she say 1:15 if it was 1:12? We know that Markham was not a bright woman, but she was smart enough to hold down a job as a waitress, where one has to deal with numbers on a customer’s bill, and smart enough to get to work every day.
> > > >
> > > > It requires NO intelligence to read a watch or clock, and though the Dallas Transit System advised the FBI that the bus was scheduled to come at 1:12, I find it very hard to believe it routinely came by at that time. If it did, with Markham thinking it came by at 1:15, I wonder how she didn’t miss the bus a lot and was able to keep her job." -- Vincent Bugliosi; Via "Reclaiming History" Endnotes
> > > >
> > > > CD630(c), page 1:
> > > > http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11029#relPageId=59
> > >
> > >
> > > So clearly, you agree that "Bud" has labeled Vincent Bugliosi a liar.
> >
> > Perhaps he wasn`t aware of the bus schedule.
>
>
> Perhaps you're not aware of the contemporary investigation done by the FBI?
Perhaps you are exposing yourself to be a hypocrite when you rely on the FBI investigations only when it suits your retarded ideas.
> On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 3:04:44 AM UTC-7, Bud wrote:
> > On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 2:51:51 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> > > On Friday, April 14, 2017 at 7:26:53 PM UTC-7, David Von Pein wrote:
> > > > Let's see what Mr. Bugliosi actually said about the "bus schedule" topic.....
> > > >
> > > > ---quote on:---
> > > >
> > > > "Although an FBI report (CD 630[h]) says that Helen Markham’s bus, per the Dallas Transit System, came by each day “at about 1:12 p.m.,” not 1:15 p.m., I tend to doubt the 1:12 time for two reasons. Number one, the FBI never nailed down which of two separate buses Markham could have taken at Jefferson and Patton, not asking her what corner at the intersection she got on her bus.
> > > >
> > > > Apparently, only one of the buses was scheduled to come by at 1:12, and the FBI never even alluded to the existence of another bus that stopped at a different corner of the intersection and would also have taken Markham downtown by a more indirect route (Myers, With Malice, p.597 footnote 154; CD 1128, p.3). Much more importantly, Markham, when asked by Warren Commission counsel, “You know what time you usually get your bus, don’t you?” she answered “1:15” (3 H 306).
> > > >
> > > > And in an earlier FBI interview she said the bus came by at 1:15 p.m. (CD 630[c], p.1). Why in the world would she say 1:15 if it was 1:12? We know that Markham was not a bright woman, but she was smart enough to hold down a job as a waitress, where one has to deal with numbers on a customer’s bill, and smart enough to get to work every day.
> > > >
> > > > It requires NO intelligence to read a watch or clock, and though the Dallas Transit System advised the FBI that the bus was scheduled to come at 1:12, I find it very hard to believe it routinely came by at that time. If it did, with Markham thinking it came by at 1:15, I wonder how she didn’t miss the bus a lot and was able to keep her job." -- Vincent Bugliosi; Via "Reclaiming History" Endnotes
> > > >
> > > > CD630(c), page 1:
> > > > http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11029#relPageId=59
> > >
> > >
> > > So clearly, you agree that "Bud" has labeled Vincent Bugliosi a liar.
> >
> > Perhaps he wasn`t aware of the bus schedule.
>
>
> Perhaps you're not aware of the contemporary investigation done by the FBI?
> Nah... You're just lying.
> > > "Bud" is desperately arguing that the bus came at 1:26.
> >
> > I thought you claimed to follow the evidence. Were you lying?
>
>
> Nah... it's you who's lying.
>
> You see, in order for *me* to be lying, Vincent Bugliosi & the FBI all have to be lying.
> That's what *YOU* believe.
>
>
>
> > > Either "Bud" or Bugliosi is lying...
> > >
> > > Who is it, David?
> > >
> > > Who's lying?
> >
> > Heres an easy one, who is retarded? You.
>
>
> I knew you'd refuse to answer. Cowards do...
You haven`t wrote a single thing besides ad hominem and red herrings about the evidence I cited.
Ben Holmes
Apr 15, 2017, 2:01:38 PM4/15/17
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On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 10:50:32 AM UTC-7, Bud wrote:
> On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 11:11:07 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> > On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 3:04:44 AM UTC-7, Bud wrote:
> > > On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 2:51:51 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> > > > On Friday, April 14, 2017 at 7:26:53 PM UTC-7, David Von Pein wrote:
> > > > > Let's see what Mr. Bugliosi actually said about the "bus schedule" topic.....
> > > > >
> > > > > ---quote on:---
> > > > >
> > > > > "Although an FBI report (CD 630[h]) says that Helen Markham’s bus, per the Dallas Transit System, came by each day “at about 1:12 p.m.,” not 1:15 p.m., I tend to doubt the 1:12 time for two reasons. Number one, the FBI never nailed down which of two separate buses Markham could have taken at Jefferson and Patton, not asking her what corner at the intersection she got on her bus.
> > > > >
> > > > > Apparently, only one of the buses was scheduled to come by at 1:12, and the FBI never even alluded to the existence of another bus that stopped at a different corner of the intersection and would also have taken Markham downtown by a more indirect route (Myers, With Malice, p.597 footnote 154; CD 1128, p.3). Much more importantly, Markham, when asked by Warren Commission counsel, “You know what time you usually get your bus, don’t you?” she answered “1:15” (3 H 306).
> > > > >
> > > > > And in an earlier FBI interview she said the bus came by at 1:15 p.m. (CD 630[c], p.1). Why in the world would she say 1:15 if it was 1:12? We know that Markham was not a bright woman, but she was smart enough to hold down a job as a waitress, where one has to deal with numbers on a customer’s bill, and smart enough to get to work every day.
> > > > >
> > > > > It requires NO intelligence to read a watch or clock, and though the Dallas Transit System advised the FBI that the bus was scheduled to come at 1:12, I find it very hard to believe it routinely came by at that time. If it did, with Markham thinking it came by at 1:15, I wonder how she didn’t miss the bus a lot and was able to keep her job." -- Vincent Bugliosi; Via "Reclaiming History" Endnotes
> > > > >
> > > > > CD630(c), page 1:
> > > > > http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11029#relPageId=59
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So clearly, you agree that "Bud" has labeled Vincent Bugliosi a liar.
> > >
> > > Perhaps he wasn`t aware of the bus schedule.
> >
> >
> > Perhaps you're not aware of the contemporary investigation done by the FBI?
>
> Perhaps you are exposing yourself to be a hypocrite when you rely on the FBI investigations only when it suits your retarded ideas.
Tut tut tut, "Bud" - *YOU* are REQUIRED to follow what the FBI found.
> On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 11:11:07 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> > On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 3:04:44 AM UTC-7, Bud wrote:
> > > On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 2:51:51 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> > > > On Friday, April 14, 2017 at 7:26:53 PM UTC-7, David Von Pein wrote:
> > > > > Let's see what Mr. Bugliosi actually said about the "bus schedule" topic.....
> > > > >
> > > > > ---quote on:---
> > > > >
> > > > > "Although an FBI report (CD 630[h]) says that Helen Markham’s bus, per the Dallas Transit System, came by each day “at about 1:12 p.m.,” not 1:15 p.m., I tend to doubt the 1:12 time for two reasons. Number one, the FBI never nailed down which of two separate buses Markham could have taken at Jefferson and Patton, not asking her what corner at the intersection she got on her bus.
> > > > >
> > > > > Apparently, only one of the buses was scheduled to come by at 1:12, and the FBI never even alluded to the existence of another bus that stopped at a different corner of the intersection and would also have taken Markham downtown by a more indirect route (Myers, With Malice, p.597 footnote 154; CD 1128, p.3). Much more importantly, Markham, when asked by Warren Commission counsel, “You know what time you usually get your bus, don’t you?” she answered “1:15” (3 H 306).
> > > > >
> > > > > And in an earlier FBI interview she said the bus came by at 1:15 p.m. (CD 630[c], p.1). Why in the world would she say 1:15 if it was 1:12? We know that Markham was not a bright woman, but she was smart enough to hold down a job as a waitress, where one has to deal with numbers on a customer’s bill, and smart enough to get to work every day.
> > > > >
> > > > > It requires NO intelligence to read a watch or clock, and though the Dallas Transit System advised the FBI that the bus was scheduled to come at 1:12, I find it very hard to believe it routinely came by at that time. If it did, with Markham thinking it came by at 1:15, I wonder how she didn’t miss the bus a lot and was able to keep her job." -- Vincent Bugliosi; Via "Reclaiming History" Endnotes
> > > > >
> > > > > CD630(c), page 1:
> > > > > http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11029#relPageId=59
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So clearly, you agree that "Bud" has labeled Vincent Bugliosi a liar.
> > >
> > > Perhaps he wasn`t aware of the bus schedule.
> >
> >
> > Perhaps you're not aware of the contemporary investigation done by the FBI?
>
> Perhaps you are exposing yourself to be a hypocrite when you rely on the FBI investigations only when it suits your retarded ideas.
Critics aren't.
You desperately want to accept anything they say as long as it supports your faith, then run from them when it doesn't.
Bugliosi would be sooooo ashamed of you!
Bud
Apr 15, 2017, 2:17:54 PM4/15/17
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> Critics aren't.
Then why are you? Because you are a hypocrite.
> You desperately want to accept anything they say as long as it supports your faith, then run from them when it doesn't.
> Bugliosi would be sooooo ashamed of you!
Ben Holmes
Apr 15, 2017, 3:02:10 PM4/15/17
to
On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 11:17:54 AM UTC-7, Bud wrote:
> On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 2:01:38 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> > On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 10:50:32 AM UTC-7, Bud wrote:
> > > On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 11:11:07 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 3:04:44 AM UTC-7, Bud wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 2:51:51 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday, April 14, 2017 at 7:26:53 PM UTC-7, David Von Pein wrote:
> > > > > > > Let's see what Mr. Bugliosi actually said about the "bus schedule" topic.....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ---quote on:---
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Although an FBI report (CD 630[h]) says that Helen Markham’s bus, per the Dallas Transit System, came by each day “at about 1:12 p.m.,” not 1:15 p.m., I tend to doubt the 1:12 time for two reasons. Number one, the FBI never nailed down which of two separate buses Markham could have taken at Jefferson and Patton, not asking her what corner at the intersection she got on her bus.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Apparently, only one of the buses was scheduled to come by at 1:12, and the FBI never even alluded to the existence of another bus that stopped at a different corner of the intersection and would also have taken Markham downtown by a more indirect route (Myers, With Malice, p.597 footnote 154; CD 1128, p.3). Much more importantly, Markham, when asked by Warren Commission counsel, “You know what time you usually get your bus, don’t you?” she answered “1:15” (3 H 306).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And in an earlier FBI interview she said the bus came by at 1:15 p.m. (CD 630[c], p.1). Why in the world would she say 1:15 if it was 1:12? We know that Markham was not a bright woman, but she was smart enough to hold down a job as a waitress, where one has to deal with numbers on a customer’s bill, and smart enough to get to work every day.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It requires NO intelligence to read a watch or clock, and though the Dallas Transit System advised the FBI that the bus was scheduled to come at 1:12, I find it very hard to believe it routinely came by at that time. If it did, with Markham thinking it came by at 1:15, I wonder how she didn’t miss the bus a lot and was able to keep her job." -- Vincent Bugliosi; Via "Reclaiming History" Endnotes
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > CD630(c), page 1:
> > > > > > > http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11029#relPageId=59
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So clearly, you agree that "Bud" has labeled Vincent Bugliosi a liar.
> > > > >
> > > > > Perhaps he wasn`t aware of the bus schedule.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps you're not aware of the contemporary investigation done by the FBI?
> > >
> > > Perhaps you are exposing yourself to be a hypocrite when you rely on the FBI investigations only when it suits your retarded ideas.
> >
> >
> > Tut tut tut, "Bud" - *YOU* are REQUIRED to follow what the FBI found.
>
> Retard figuring.
By simply cherry-picking what you want to accept, you've shown that it's not the evidence that matters, it's your faith.
> On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 2:01:38 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> > On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 10:50:32 AM UTC-7, Bud wrote:
> > > On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 11:11:07 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 3:04:44 AM UTC-7, Bud wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 2:51:51 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday, April 14, 2017 at 7:26:53 PM UTC-7, David Von Pein wrote:
> > > > > > > Let's see what Mr. Bugliosi actually said about the "bus schedule" topic.....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ---quote on:---
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Although an FBI report (CD 630[h]) says that Helen Markham’s bus, per the Dallas Transit System, came by each day “at about 1:12 p.m.,” not 1:15 p.m., I tend to doubt the 1:12 time for two reasons. Number one, the FBI never nailed down which of two separate buses Markham could have taken at Jefferson and Patton, not asking her what corner at the intersection she got on her bus.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Apparently, only one of the buses was scheduled to come by at 1:12, and the FBI never even alluded to the existence of another bus that stopped at a different corner of the intersection and would also have taken Markham downtown by a more indirect route (Myers, With Malice, p.597 footnote 154; CD 1128, p.3). Much more importantly, Markham, when asked by Warren Commission counsel, “You know what time you usually get your bus, don’t you?” she answered “1:15” (3 H 306).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And in an earlier FBI interview she said the bus came by at 1:15 p.m. (CD 630[c], p.1). Why in the world would she say 1:15 if it was 1:12? We know that Markham was not a bright woman, but she was smart enough to hold down a job as a waitress, where one has to deal with numbers on a customer’s bill, and smart enough to get to work every day.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It requires NO intelligence to read a watch or clock, and though the Dallas Transit System advised the FBI that the bus was scheduled to come at 1:12, I find it very hard to believe it routinely came by at that time. If it did, with Markham thinking it came by at 1:15, I wonder how she didn’t miss the bus a lot and was able to keep her job." -- Vincent Bugliosi; Via "Reclaiming History" Endnotes
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> > > > > > > CD630(c), page 1:
> > > > > > > http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11029#relPageId=59
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > So clearly, you agree that "Bud" has labeled Vincent Bugliosi a liar.
> > > > >
> > > > > Perhaps he wasn`t aware of the bus schedule.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps you're not aware of the contemporary investigation done by the FBI?
> > >
> > > Perhaps you are exposing yourself to be a hypocrite when you rely on the FBI investigations only when it suits your retarded ideas.
> >
> >
> > Tut tut tut, "Bud" - *YOU* are REQUIRED to follow what the FBI found.
>
> Retard figuring.
Bud
Apr 15, 2017, 3:38:24 PM4/15/17
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Ben Holmes
Apr 15, 2017, 4:04:48 PM4/15/17
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Bud
Apr 15, 2017, 4:34:50 PM4/15/17
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Ben Holmes
Apr 15, 2017, 4:43:16 PM4/15/17
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You merely present your opinion.
And as it's not based on anything at all - it can be disregarded at will.
Bud
Apr 15, 2017, 6:06:21 PM4/15/17
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> You merely present your opinion.
> And as it's not based on anything at all - it can be disregarded at will.
Ben Holmes
Apr 15, 2017, 6:15:32 PM4/15/17
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Without relying on the FBI, you simply don't have a case *AT ALL*.
You have your opinion.
And, as your opinion isn't based on anything, it can safely be disregarded...
Bud
Apr 15, 2017, 6:37:45 PM4/15/17
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> Without relying on the FBI, you simply don't have a case *AT ALL*.
>
> You have your opinion.
Ben Holmes
Apr 15, 2017, 7:00:35 PM4/15/17
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This is EXACTLY what you're doing.
You're denying the FBI investigation of the bus schedule done contemporaneously... and pretending that your findings decades later is more accurate.
You lost.
Bud
Apr 15, 2017, 7:12:27 PM4/15/17
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> You're denying the FBI investigation of the bus schedule done contemporaneously... and pretending that your findings decades later is more accurate.
> You lost.
Ben Holmes
Apr 15, 2017, 10:28:01 PM4/15/17
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Bud
Apr 16, 2017, 6:49:48 AM4/16/17
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Ben Holmes
Apr 16, 2017, 1:24:44 PM4/16/17
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Good!
There's hope for you yet, "Bud."
Bud
Apr 16, 2017, 1:44:39 PM4/16/17
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