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Gil Jesus

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Jan 26, 2010, 6:14:27 AM1/26/10
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"There is no evidence that Oswald and Ruby knew each other or had any
relationship through a third party or parties." ----Warren Report,
Appendix XII, pg. 650.

How did Jack Ruby know that Lee Harvey Oswald was a member of the
"Fair Play for Cuba Committee" if he didn't know him, never met him,
and wasn't told by a "third party or parties" ?

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Gil Jesus

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Jan 26, 2010, 6:30:55 AM1/26/10
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> So Jack Ruby could very easily have heard the words "Fair Play For
> Cuba Committee" on any number of TV and radio stations between midday
> Friday, November 22 and the Midnight Press Conference several hours
> later.

COULD HAVE ?

I'm not asking for your opinion. I'm asking for evidence.

Do you have the name of the source from which he got his information
or not ?

David Von Pein

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Jan 26, 2010, 6:32:03 AM1/26/10
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>>> "How did Jack Ruby know that Lee Harvey Oswald was a member of the "Fair Play for Cuba Committee" if he didn't know him, never met him, and wasn't told by a "third party or parties"?" <<<

Oh, come on Gil, you know the answer to this. You asked this same
question on November 27, 2008, and I provided the proof that Ruby (and
the whole world) had ready access to the information about Oswald's
FPCC connections several hours before Oswald's midnight press
conference:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/browse_thread/thread/3ff2b92b4837a655/d5e879c4f794ae6f?#d5e879c4f794ae6f

From the above 2008 link:

"By the time of the Midnight Press Conference with Oswald, the fact
that LHO was affiliated with the FPCC had been broadcast numerous
times on all of the major TV and radio networks.

In fact, it took me only about three minutes to hunt down and locate
proof within my large archive of TV and radio footage that Oswald's
connection with "Fair Play For Cuba Committee" had been broadcast over
the air on television only a very short time after Oswald's arrest.
Those exact words are uttered by NBC-TV's Frank McGee at the following
audio link (49 minutes into this audio file; or about two-thirds of
the way into it):

http://www.box.net/shared/f4m8y468ko

In that above-linked NBC broadcast, McGee mentions the fact that "very
little is known about this Oswald", but he then goes on to tell the
audience just seconds later that LHO was linked to an organization
known as the "Fair Play For Cuba Committee".

NBC-TV aired that info about Oswald and the FPCC at about 3:30 to 4:00
PM CST on November 22nd (based on the timestamps on my "as-it-
happened" audio files, give or take a few minutes). That would have
been about 8 or so hours before Ruby saw Oswald and Henry Wade at the
DPD that night. And if NBC had that info, you can bet your last dime
that all of the other major TV and radio outlets were reporting that
same information too.

So Jack Ruby could very easily have heard the words "Fair Play For
Cuba Committee" on any number of TV and radio stations between midday
Friday, November 22 and the Midnight Press Conference several hours
later.

Gil The Kook should, of course, have already known this basic
information concerning these timeline issues. And perhaps he does know
it. But he thinks it's wise to dredge up kooky questions like the one
in this thread every now and again--just because, I guess, he's got
nothing else to rely on except the potential ignorance of the people
that the kook is hoping to reach with his lame-ass inquiries.

I suppose when retards like Gil ask their never-ending series of
already-thoroughly-answered questions, those CTers just hope and pray
that somebody won't actually shoot down their nonsense with the raw
facts -- like I just provided above at the 49-minute mark of that NBC-
TV audio file from 11/22/63 linked above.

Gil -- you're pathetic." -- DVP; 11/27/08

David Von Pein

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Jan 26, 2010, 6:38:13 AM1/26/10
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What's the alternative, Gil?

Do you think Jack Ruby was a part of a pre-arranged plot to frame
Oswald and to rub him out, and yet Ruby was stupid enough to tip his
hand and correct Henry Wade at a press conference with information
that would link Ruby to the "patsy"?

Is that what you're saying?

IOW -- Jack Ruby was one dumb mother-fucker, wasn't he?

To repeat -- The information about Lee Oswald's affiliation with the
Fair Play For Cuba Committee was aired on national TV and radio MANY
HOURS prior to Henry Wade's late-night conference on November 22nd.

Therefore, Ruby coming up with that organization's name certainly does
nothing to advance the notion that Ruby and Oswald knew each other.

Gil Jesus

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Jan 26, 2010, 7:02:07 AM1/26/10
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On Jan 26, 6:38�am, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:

> Therefore, Ruby coming up with that organization's name certainly does
> nothing to advance the notion that Ruby and Oswald knew each other.

Neither does the witnesses who said they saw them together, right ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcVM_UbBIyI

David Von Pein

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Jan 26, 2010, 7:11:08 AM1/26/10
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>>> "Neither does [sic] the witnesses who said they saw them together, right?" <<<

Nice dance, Gil.

When beaten to a pulp on the question at hand --- i.e., this question:


"How did Jack Ruby know that Lee Harvey Oswald was a member of the
"Fair Play for Cuba Committee" if he didn't know him, never met him,

and wasn't told by a "third party or parties"?" --- the kook (in this
case, Gilbert J. Jesus) decides to move on to another question.

Keep moving those goal posts, Gil. It's better than facing the facts,
right?

Gil Jesus

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Jan 26, 2010, 8:20:28 AM1/26/10
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No, you're suggesting that Ruby got his information from a news
broadcast, which there is no evidence of to my knowledge.

Now, will you supply that source, or are we going to be left hanging
with another of your "wild speculations" ?

David Von Pein

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Jan 26, 2010, 8:23:27 AM1/26/10
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Oh, sure, Gil. My theory is real "wild".

LOL.

Gil Jesus

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Jan 26, 2010, 8:36:01 AM1/26/10
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On Jan 26, 8:23�am, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
> Oh, sure, Gil. My theory is real "wild".
>
> LOL.

I know your shift is almost over so I'll make it short:

Your theory is not based on any evidence or you would have provided it.

David Von Pein

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Jan 26, 2010, 9:14:53 AM1/26/10
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My shift is never over, Gil. The CIA boys have me working 24/7. Damn
slave drivers.

aeffects

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Jan 26, 2010, 12:56:42 PM1/26/10
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On Jan 26, 6:14 am, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
> My shift is never over, Gil. The CIA boys have me working 24/7. Damn
> slave drivers.

you wish, ya haven't got it Reitzes..... LMAO!

timstter

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Jan 26, 2010, 3:03:01 PM1/26/10
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LOL! Say, it looks like Verm REALLY BELIEVES that it was only because
Ruby PERSONALLY KNEW Oswald that he knew he was a member of FPCC.

Quick, someone call a shrink!

Alarmed Regards,

Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*

tomnln

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Jan 26, 2010, 5:31:25 PM1/26/10
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The "Pro-Castro" FPCC was Housed in the same house as the Anti-Castro
Organizations.

SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/3126%20%20HARLENDALE.htm


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Bud

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Jan 26, 2010, 7:43:17 PM1/26/10
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Your question asked how Ruby could have gotten information that was
broadcast to the public. Thanks for playing "Stump The Retard."

Gil Jesus

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Jan 26, 2010, 8:16:16 PM1/26/10
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On Jan 26, 7:43�pm, Bud <sirsl...@fast.net> wrote:

> � Your question asked how Ruby could have gotten information that was


> broadcast to the public. Thanks for playing "Stump The Retard."

No Fatman.

My question was......How did Jack Ruby know that Lee Harvey Oswald was


a member of the "Fair Play for Cuba Committee" if he didn't know him,
never met him, and wasn't told by a "third party or parties" ?

It's been said by Von Pinhead that he found out through the press.

We're still waiting for the citation of that.


Bud

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Jan 26, 2010, 8:59:14 PM1/26/10
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Your question asked how Ruby got information that Oswald was
connected to the Fair play for Cuba Committee. DVP pointed out that
that information was made available to the public. Jack Ruby was a
member of the public, therefore the information was available to him.

Gil Jesus

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Jan 26, 2010, 9:24:32 PM1/26/10
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On Jan 26, 8:59�pm, Bud <sirsl...@fast.net> wrote:

> � Your question asked how Ruby got information that Oswald was


> connected to the Fair play for Cuba Committee. DVP pointed out that
> that information was made available to the public. Jack Ruby was a
> member of the public, therefore the information was available to him.

We're still waiting to see the EVIDENCE, the documentation, the
witnesses, affidavits, EVIDENCE that indicates that Ruby was given
that information from a "third party".

Opinions and speculations are BS...I want to see the evidence.

Bud

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Jan 27, 2010, 6:48:46 PM1/27/10
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On Jan 26, 9:24 pm, Gil Jesus <gjjm...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jan 26, 8:59 pm, Bud <sirsl...@fast.net> wrote:
>
> > Your question asked how Ruby got information that Oswald was
> > connected to the Fair play for Cuba Committee. DVP pointed out that
> > that information was made available to the public. Jack Ruby was a
> > member of the public, therefore the information was available to him.
>
> We're still waiting to see the EVIDENCE, the documentation, the
> witnesses, affidavits, EVIDENCE that indicates that Ruby was given
> that information from a "third party".

I don`t know what you mean by "third party", or why you are putting
it in quotes (are you quoting someone?). The information was available
to anyone with a television set.

> Opinions and speculations are BS...I want to see the evidence.

Like what, retard, a film of Ruby watching TV while the information
was broadcast? This is why retards such as yourself are rarely tapped
to conduct real investigations.


Walt

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Jan 27, 2010, 10:19:41 PM1/27/10
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On Jan 27, 5:48 pm, Bud <sirsl...@fast.net> wrote:
> On Jan 26, 9:24 pm, Gil Jesus <gjjm...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 26, 8:59 pm, Bud <sirsl...@fast.net> wrote:
>
> > > Your question asked how Ruby got information that Oswald was
> > > connected to the Fair play for Cuba Committee.

I'd like to know how Ruby knew enough about either organization to
correct Henry Wade.....And in the manner that he did....

Henry Wade said that Oswald was a member of the Free Cuba
Committee.... And that statement was enough to cause Ruby to panic and
blurt out "No Henry, thats the Fair Play for Cuba Committee."

Did Ruby know that the plot called for Oswald to be connected to the
communist organization, the FPCC? ...and did he panic because he was a
member of the Free Cuba Committe, and he was worried that he might be
connected to Oswald through the Free Cuba committee?

timstter

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Jan 28, 2010, 3:25:32 AM1/28/10
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On Jan 27, 9:31 am, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> The "Pro-Castro" FPCC was Housed in the same house as the  Anti-Castro
> Organizations.
>
> SEE>>>  http://whokilledjfk.net/3126%20%20HARLENDALE.htm
>
> "timstter" <timst...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:af1a0129-6b36-48d8...@m25g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 27, 12:20 am, Gil Jesus <gjjm...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > No, you're suggesting that Ruby got his information from a news
> > broadcast, which there is no evidence of to my knowledge.
>
> > Now, will you supply that source, or are we going to be left hanging
> > with another of your "wild speculations" ?
>
> LOL! Say, it looks like Verm REALLY BELIEVES that it was only because
> Ruby PERSONALLY KNEW Oswald that he knew he was a member of FPCC.
>
> Quick, someone call a shrink!
>
> Alarmed Regards,
>
> Tim Brennan
> Sydney, Australia
> *Newsgroup(s) Commentator*

Say, tomnln, how many times are you planning to post that debunked
story that the FPCC was @ Harlendale?

Alpha 66, an anti Castro group was at Harlendale, tomnln.

Why don't you post all four pages of that FBI memo, tomnln?

I'll tell you why you don't. It's because if you post the other three
pages it clearly shows that the memo is debunking the claim of Buddy
Walthers that the FPCC was @ Harlendale, tomnln!

Simply another example of your misuse and fear of *evidence/testimony*
and *official* records, tomnln.

Why are we not surprised?

Regards,

Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*

ps BTW, here is the full FOUR page FBI report. Anyone who wants to
read it can see how you've distorted the story by only posting page
two of it on your website. TB:

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=10146&relPageId=12

aeffects

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Jan 28, 2010, 4:00:22 AM1/28/10
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On Jan 28, 12:25 am, timstter <timst...@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip the nutter-troll lunacy>

stay focused moron! Air kinda thin there in Fresno?

tomnln

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Jan 28, 2010, 11:49:26 AM1/28/10
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timmy is jumping up and, down and, doing back flips because some
"Anti-Castro" Cuban states that
Oswald was not seen at 3126 Harlendale Street in Dallas.

timmy accepts an FBI report denouncing Deputy Walthers but Fails to mention
Deputy Allen Sweatt.

Apparently timmy believes the whole sheriff's department is stupid.

Amazing how mtimmy RUNS to defend the FBI who has been Caught several times
of Evidence Tampering ! ! !

SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm

timmy has NEVER accepted my challenge to debate LIVE ! !

SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/invitation.htm

timmy thinks Oswald was....
5 foot 3 inches tall
Blond Haired
119 pounds.

SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/mexcity.htm


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Bud

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Jan 28, 2010, 10:18:35 PM1/28/10
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On Jan 27, 10:19 pm, Walt <papakochenb...@evertek.net> wrote:

> On Jan 27, 5:48 pm,Bud<sirsl...@fast.net> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 26, 9:24 pm, Gil Jesus <gjjm...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 26, 8:59 pm,Bud<sirsl...@fast.net> wrote:
>
> > > > Your question asked how Ruby got information that Oswald was
> > > > connected to the Fair play for Cuba Committee.
>
> I'd like to know how Ruby knew enough about either organization to
> correct Henry Wade.....And in the manner that he did....

No you don`t. You like the issue right where it is, with just enough
information that you can pretend it is sinister, without you having to
be bothered to show it really is. You retards never take notice that
all your suspicions fall well short of the target of showing
conspiracy.

Walt

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Jan 29, 2010, 10:44:37 AM1/29/10
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On Jan 28, 2:25 am, timstter <timst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 27, 9:31 am, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > The "Pro-Castro" FPCC was Housed in the same house as the  Anti-Castro
> > Organizations.
>
> > SEE>>>  http://whokilledjfk.net/3126%20%20HARLENDALE.htm
>
> > "timstter" <timst...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:af1a0129-6b36-48d8...@m25g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jan 27, 12:20 am, Gil Jesus <gjjm...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > No, you're suggesting that Ruby got his information from a news
> > > broadcast, which there is no evidence of to my knowledge.
>
> > > Now, will you supply that source, or are we going to be left hanging
> > > with another of your "wild speculations" ?
>
> > LOL! Say, it looks like Verm REALLY BELIEVES that it was only because
> > Ruby PERSONALLY KNEW Oswald that he knew he was a member of FPCC.
>
> > Quick, someone call a shrink!
>
> > Alarmed Regards,
>
> > Tim Brennan
> > Sydney, Australia
> > *Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
>
> Say, tomnln, how many times are you planning to post that debunked
> story that the FPCC was @ Harlendale?
>
> Alpha 66, an anti Castro group was at Harlendale, tomnln.


You're correct... Alpha 66 did have a safe house at the Harlandale
address, which was not far from Jack Ruby's apartment.

Alpha 66 was very active in conducting illegal attacks on Cuba. Many
members of the organization were BOP survivors, and they hated JFK.
They were always looking to buy guns to smuggle into Cuba. Jack Ruby
was a dealer in guns....... Are you begining to see a picture??

>
> Why don't you post all four pages of that FBI memo, tomnln?
>
> I'll tell you why you don't. It's because if you post the other three
> pages it clearly shows that the memo is debunking the claim of Buddy
> Walthers that the FPCC was @ Harlendale, tomnln!
>
> Simply another example of your misuse and fear of *evidence/testimony*
> and *official* records, tomnln.
>
> Why are we not surprised?
>
> Regards,
>
> Tim Brennan
> Sydney, Australia
> *Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
>
> ps BTW, here is the full FOUR page FBI report. Anyone who wants to
> read it can see how you've distorted the story by only posting page
> two of it on your website. TB:
>

> http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=101...- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

aeffects

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Jan 29, 2010, 1:48:01 PM1/29/10
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perhaps someone should point him towards the crayons...


>
>
> > Why don't you post all four pages of that FBI memo, tomnln?
>
> > I'll tell you why you don't. It's because if you post the other three
> > pages it clearly shows that the memo is debunking the claim of Buddy
> > Walthers that the FPCC was @ Harlendale, tomnln!
>
> > Simply another example of your misuse and fear of *evidence/testimony*
> > and *official* records, tomnln.
>
> > Why are we not surprised?
>
> > Regards,
>
> > Tim Brennan
> > Sydney, Australia
> > *Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
>
> > ps BTW, here is the full FOUR page FBI report. Anyone who wants to
> > read it can see how you've distorted the story by only posting page
> > two of it on your website. TB:
>

> >http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=101...Hide quoted text -

timstter

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Jan 29, 2010, 7:32:59 PM1/29/10
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> >http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=101...Hide quoted text -

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> > - Show quoted text -

I'm beginning to see more of your wild speculation about to unfold...

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