Has Anyone Noticed?

[Ben Holmes]

That David Von Pein and "Bud" still refuse to point out the largest foreign object seen in the AP X-ray?

Their fear of this object is truly funny!!! John McAdams was just as afraid of it, running away from a debate on this issue.

The fact that believers cannot explain OR EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE the evidence in this case shows just how conscious they are of the weakness of their case.

[David Von Pein]

On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 4:14:14 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> That David Von Pein and "Bud" still refuse to point out the largest foreign object seen in the AP X-ray?
>

Already did. You're just playing your usual silly games.

~yawn~
~stretch~

[Ben Holmes]

On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 1:32:04 PM UTC-7, David Von Pein wrote:
> On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 4:14:14 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> > That David Von Pein and "Bud" still refuse to point out the largest foreign object seen in the AP X-ray?
> >
>
> Already did. You're just playing your usual silly games.

THEN QUOTE & CITE YOUR PREVIOUS ANSWER!!!

But you won't...

You're nothing but a yellow coward...

[David Von Pein]

On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 4:45:16 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 1:32:04 PM UTC-7, David Von Pein wrote:
> > On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 4:14:14 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> > > That David Von Pein and "Bud" still refuse to point out the largest foreign object seen in the AP X-ray?
> > >
> >
> > Already did. You're just playing your usual silly games.
>
>
> THEN QUOTE & CITE YOUR PREVIOUS ANSWER!!!
>

"OK. The largest white spot is (probably) an artifact. Citation:
http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/arrb/medical_testimony/Custer_10-28-97/html/Custer_0011b.htm " -- DVP; 4/1/17

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/PT45EnGN2Bs/t4SNpmJmAAAJ

Now, let's watch Holmes pretend he doesn't have the slightest idea what I meant by "the largest white spot".

[Ben Holmes]

On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 2:02:21 PM UTC-7, David Von Pein wrote:
> On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 4:45:16 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> > On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 1:32:04 PM UTC-7, David Von Pein wrote:
> > > On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 4:14:14 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> > > > That David Von Pein and "Bud" still refuse to point out the largest foreign object seen in the AP X-ray?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Already did. You're just playing your usual silly games.
> >
> >
> > THEN QUOTE & CITE YOUR PREVIOUS ANSWER!!!
> >
>
> "OK. The largest white spot is (probably) an artifact.

And I carefully explained to you that the largest white spot is JFK's skull.

I'm asking you to UNAMBIGUOUSLY point to the largest FOREIGN object seen in the AP X-ray.

You'll not be allowed to back off later and claim you were talking about something else - a common tactic of believers.

You can DESCRIBE it in terms that don't fit anything else on the X-ray, or you can simply go to the graphic I previously cited:

http://jimmarrs.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/XRay-1.png

And simply state the color of the arrow pointing to it.

THIS IS REALLY SIMPLE, DAVID - EVEN KIDS CAN DO THIS!!!

Why is it so difficult for you to do?

> Citation:
> http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/arrb/medical_testimony/Custer_10-28-97/html/Custer_0011b.htm " -- DVP; 4/1/17
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/PT45EnGN2Bs/t4SNpmJmAAAJ
>
> Now, let's watch Holmes pretend he doesn't have the slightest idea what I meant by "the largest white spot".

The largest white spot on the film is JFK's skull.

You cannot 'define' the largest foreign object seen in the film by merely asserting that it's the "largest white spot" seen in the film. That's provably false.

Now, do you have the courage to ACTUALLY ANSWER MY QUESTION IN UNAMBIGUOUS TERMS?

Or will you run away again as you've done the last dozen times?


> > But you won't...


And didn't...

> > You're nothing but a yellow coward...
> >
> >
> >
> > > ~yawn~
> > > ~stretch~
> > >
> > > > Their fear of this object is truly funny!!! John McAdams was just as afraid of it, running away from a debate on this issue.
> > > >
> > > > The fact that believers cannot explain OR EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE the evidence in this case shows just how conscious they are of the weakness of their case.

Why are you so afraid of this object, David?

[David Von Pein]

What did I predict?

LOL. What a nutcase.

BTW, Holmes HIMSELF suggested that I use the words "the largest white spot" to refer to the alleged "object" on JFK's X-ray....

"Call it anything you want. Call it the largest white spot ... I don't care." -- B. Holmes; 4/1/17

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/PT45EnGN2Bs/dAZGCrBlAAAJ

So, I took Holmes' advice and said this....

"OK. The largest white spot is (probably) an artifact." -- DVP; 4/1/17

Now Holmes doesn't like those words, even though HE HIMSELF suggested I call Mantik's famous "Cardboard Object" by those very words --- "The largest white spot".

It's also rather humorous to note that Holmes apparently considers President Kennedy's skull to be a "foreign object".

(LOL reprise.)

[Ben Holmes]

On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 2:46:38 PM UTC-7, David Von Pein wrote:
> On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 5:14:08 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> > On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 2:02:21 PM UTC-7, David Von Pein wrote:
> > > On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 4:45:16 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 1:32:04 PM UTC-7, David Von Pein wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 4:14:14 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> > > > > > That David Von Pein and "Bud" still refuse to point out the largest foreign object seen in the AP X-ray?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Already did. You're just playing your usual silly games.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > THEN QUOTE & CITE YOUR PREVIOUS ANSWER!!!
> > > >
> > >
> > > "OK. The largest white spot is (probably) an artifact.
> >
> >
> > And I carefully explained to you that the largest white spot is JFK's skull.
> >
> > I'm asking you to UNAMBIGUOUSLY point to the largest FOREIGN object seen in the AP X-ray.
> >
> > You'll not be allowed to back off later and claim you were talking about something else - a common tactic of believers.
> >
> > You can DESCRIBE it in terms that don't fit anything else on the X-ray, or you can simply go to the graphic I previously cited:
> >
> > http://jimmarrs.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/XRay-1.png
> >
> > And simply state the color of the arrow pointing to it.
> >
> > THIS IS REALLY SIMPLE, DAVID - EVEN KIDS CAN DO THIS!!!
> >
> > Why is it so difficult for you to do?

Notice the silence...

David only needs to state a color... yet this is apparently too specific for him.

> > > Citation:
> > > http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/arrb/medical_testimony/Custer_10-28-97/html/Custer_0011b.htm " -- DVP; 4/1/17
> > >
> > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/PT45EnGN2Bs/t4SNpmJmAAAJ
> > >
> > > Now, let's watch Holmes pretend he doesn't have the slightest idea what I meant by "the largest white spot".
> >
> >
> > The largest white spot on the film is JFK's skull.
> >
> > You cannot 'define' the largest foreign object seen in the film by merely asserting that it's the "largest white spot" seen in the film. That's provably false.

Where'd you go, David?

YOU'VE JUST BEEN SHOWN TO BE STUPID - AND YOU HAD NOTHING TO SAY!!!

> > Now, do you have the courage to ACTUALLY ANSWER MY QUESTION IN UNAMBIGUOUS TERMS?

Clearly not...

> > Or will you run away again as you've done the last dozen times?
> >
> >
> > > > But you won't...
> >
> >
> > And didn't...
> >
> >
> > > > You're nothing but a yellow coward...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > ~yawn~
> > > > > ~stretch~
> > > > >
> > > > > > Their fear of this object is truly funny!!! John McAdams was just as afraid of it, running away from a debate on this issue.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The fact that believers cannot explain OR EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE the evidence in this case shows just how conscious they are of the weakness of their case.
> >
> >
> > Why are you so afraid of this object, David?
>
> What did I predict?

You predicted *NOTHING* that's come true.

My predictions have continued to be accurate. You'll CONTINUE to refuse to unambiguously point to what you consider to be the largest foreign object seen in the AP X-ray.


I've even given you the words to use...

I've even provided a graphic so you merely need to state which arrow is pointing to it...

THE LONGER YOU REFUSE TO ANSWER, THE MORE **STUPID** YOU LOOK!

As well as demonstrating your cowardice.


> LOL. What a nutcase.


Yep... true... you ARE a "nutcase" - too afraid to point out the largest foreign object seen in the AP X-ray.

I know why, of course... you're afraid of the followup questions that you know you *CAN'T* answer.

> BTW, Holmes HIMSELF suggested that I use the words "the largest white spot" to refer to the alleged "object" on JFK's X-ray....
>
> "Call it anything you want. Call it the largest white spot ... I don't care." -- B. Holmes; 4/1/17

Yep... I also stated that it must be UNAMBIGUOUS and be citable.

Tell us David, are you able to read?


And I've REPEATEDLY told you I'm not interested at this point in **WHAT** you think it is...

ALL WE ARE DOING AT THIS POINT IS ESTABLISHING ***WHAT*** WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS!!!

Can't you understand this simple point?

I've told you this repeatedly now - and you keep pretending that I'm saying something else...

>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/PT45EnGN2Bs/dAZGCrBlAAAJ
>
> So, I took Holmes' advice and said this....

You're lying again, David.

You provably did *NOT* "take my advice."

> "OK. The largest white spot is (probably) an artifact." -- DVP; 4/1/17
>
> Now Holmes doesn't like those words, even though HE HIMSELF suggested I call Mantik's famous "Cardboard Object" by those very words --- "The largest white spot".

You cannot define the largest foreign object seen in the AP X-ray by merely claiming that it's the "largest white spot".

I've already schooled you on this issue. Are you a MORON???

> It's also rather humorous to note that Holmes apparently considers President Kennedy's skull to be a "foreign object".
>
> (LOL reprise.)

No moron, THAT'S WHAT *YOU* ARE DOING!!!

Once again, your abject fear of being specific.

I'm sure you think your words are going to come back and haunt you.

You're DESPERATELY afraid to go on record.

And I understand why...

You prove your ignorance of the evidence...

[David Von Pein]

You're hilarious, Holmes. I couldn't care less what your idiotic "follow-up" question will be. But you're just DYING to ask it, I know that. So why don't you just ask it, instead of playing your silly games and pretending that Bud and I don't know the location on the X-ray of the alleged "foreign object" you're talking about?

[David Von Pein]

Then why did you invite me to say this when referring to the largest foreign object in the X-ray?....

"Call it anything you want. Call it the largest white spot ... I don't care." -- Ben Holmes

You're one confused kook, Holmes. Maybe a little nap would help. (Here, I'll turn off the lights and the Mark Lane video so you can rest.)

[Ben Holmes]

You're getting the cart before the horse. How can you answer a question about something you don't know?

When you get courageous enough to answer a question any fifth grader could answer, we'll move forward.

But until that point, I'll merely continue pointing out your absolutely AMAZING cowardice.

> > > BTW, Holmes HIMSELF suggested that I use the words "the largest white spot" to refer to the alleged "object" on JFK's X-ray....
> > >
> > > "Call it anything you want. Call it the largest white spot ... I don't care." -- B. Holmes; 4/1/17
> >
> >
> > Yep... I also stated that it must be UNAMBIGUOUS and be citable.
> >
> > Tell us David, are you able to read?

Dead silence...


I'm guessing that the answer is "no."

> > And I've REPEATEDLY told you I'm not interested at this point in **WHAT** you think it is...
> >
> > ALL WE ARE DOING AT THIS POINT IS ESTABLISHING ***WHAT*** WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS!!!
> >
> > Can't you understand this simple point?

David has yet to acknowledge this. I'm guessing he's still confused.

> > I've told you this repeatedly now - and you keep pretending that I'm saying something else...
> >
> >
> > >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/PT45EnGN2Bs/dAZGCrBlAAAJ
> > >
> > > So, I took Holmes' advice and said this....
> >
> >
> > You're lying again, David.
> >
> > You provably did *NOT* "take my advice."
> >
> >
> >
> > > "OK. The largest white spot is (probably) an artifact." -- DVP; 4/1/17
> > >
> > > Now Holmes doesn't like those words, even though HE HIMSELF suggested I call Mantik's famous "Cardboard Object" by those very words --- "The largest white spot".
> >
> >
> > You cannot define the largest foreign object seen in the AP X-ray by merely claiming that it's the "largest white spot".
> >
> > I've already schooled you on this issue. Are you a MORON???

I'm sure that David doesn't want to admit he's a moron... but on the other hand, he had a very difficult time understanding that neither Perry nor Carrico had EVER described the throat wound as "ragged" - so perhaps he is.

David certainly isn't demonstrating any intelligence on this topic.

RED OR GREEN DAVID... IT'S JUST *THAT* SIMPLE!!!

> > > It's also rather humorous to note that Holmes apparently considers President Kennedy's skull to be a "foreign object".
> > >
> > > (LOL reprise.)
> >
> > No moron, THAT'S WHAT *YOU* ARE DOING!!!

Dead silence...

[Ben Holmes]

Simple... to avoid your dishonesty... you'd be whining that it wasn't an "object"... indeed, "Bud" immediately did exactly that.

> "Call it anything you want. Call it the largest white spot ... I don't care." -- Ben Holmes

You keep snipping the next sentence... I understand why.

YOU'RE A DESPICABLE LIAR.


Why are you afraid to quote the very next sentence David?

> You're one confused kook, Holmes. Maybe a little nap would help. (Here, I'll turn off the lights and the Mark Lane video so you can rest.)

Red or Green, David?

[David Von Pein]

Orange.

[Ben Holmes]

Colorblind Coward.