No Middle Ground On JFK Assassination
lazu...@webtv.net
Brothers In Arms & Mark Fuhrman A Simple Act Of Murder, though all books
were funamentally flawed and had some severe problems...they all had
some good, important stuff in there...that is incompatible with the
pathetic Oswald did it alone crap.
But, lone nutters can't learn anything new, they have all the answers,
and these books were ignored or ridiculed by the McAdams gang which
shows they have no integrity, honesty, or anything resembling
fairness...becuse if they did...they would have some questions...Laz
David Von Pein
>>> "These books [by David Kaiser, Gus Russo, and Mark Fuhrman] were ignored or ridiculed by the McAdams gang[,] which shows they have no integrity, honesty, or anything resembling fairness. Because if they did...they would have some questions." <<<
As far as Mark Fuhrman's JFK book is concerned, I did ask some
questions. That is, in my review of his 2006 book ("A Simple Act Of
Murder"), I asked Mr. Fuhrman some questions about his strange anti-
SBT stance, such as these questions:
"Why on Earth would that bullet, travelling downward at 24
degrees (given Fuhrman's early Z186 timing for this JFK hit, which, of
course, is also just pretty much a wild guess) suddenly veer upward
after hitting nothing but soft tissue in JFK's neck? Is that scenario
at all possible? I suppose the answer to that is, indeed, 'yes'. But
given the physical evidence in the case (i.e., the total lack of
damage in JFK's neck region that could account for such a major bullet
deflection), is that scenario "probable"?" -- DVP
"If [Governor John] Connally wasn't hit until circa Z231, how
can all of the above be accounted for in a "He Hasn't Been Shot Yet"
manner?" [see full review, linked below, for the complete list of
items that Mark Fuhrman totally ignores in his book.] -- DVP
"Why are JFK's hands where they are at Zapruder Frame #225 if he
had been hit by a bullet some 2.13 seconds earlier (or 39 Z-Frames
earlier, at Z186) [as Fuhrman contends]? .... Would his reaction of
jerking his arms up toward his throat REALLY have been delayed by more
than two full seconds if he'd been hit at Z186?" -- DVP
"Given Mr. Fuhrman's "One Killer Named Oswald" scenario, WHY on
Earth would the Warren Commission feel there was any NEED to start
"inventing" theories (like the SBT) in the first place? Was that done
to supposedly paint the already-guilty assassin as MORE guilty than he
already was?" -- DVP
"If the Warren Commission really thought the "3 shots & 3 hits"
theory was the accurate one [as Fuhrman believes] -- why wouldn't they
just say so, instead of inventing the SBT?" -- DVP
"In other words -- why would the Commission think that the
public would accept the Single-Bullet Theory MORE than the 3-hit
scenario, if such a 3-hit theory IS really the way things occurred?"
-- DVP
"If the [Warren] Commission's main goal and desire had, indeed,
been to "squelch rumors about a possible conspiracy" [which is a
direct quote from Page 5 of Fuhrman's JFK book] -- then why wouldn't
the WC have simply signed-off on and rubber-stamped as "true and
factual" the initial 5-volume FBI report concerning the assassination
that came out on December 9, 1963?" -- DVP
http://Simple-Act-Of-Murder.blogspot.com
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I cannot comment specifically on two of the other books that "Ol' Laz"
mentioned -- Gus Russo's "Live By The Sword" and David Kaiser's "The
Road To Dallas" -- but I did read Russo's 2008 book, "Brothers In
Arms", which was co-authored by Stephen Molton, and I compiled a list
of questions concerning that particular publication as well.
The three main questions I raised about the Cuba-based plot to kill
JFK that Russo thinks existed in 1963 are questions that I initially
asked Dale Myers in the October 2008 post linked below, shortly before
I myself had read the book:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/00b5230ef8086426
Those three inquiries are these:
"1.) How do the "Brothers In Arms" authors explain the fact that
Ruth Paine and Linnie Mae Randle were so heavily influential in
getting Lee Harvey Oswald his job at the TSBD just one month before
the assassination? In other words, how in the world can any outside
"Cuban involvement" possibly play a part in this very important sub-
topic surrounding Oswald's employment in the building from where
Kennedy was murdered and the very innocuous and innocent manner in
which LHO obtained that job?
"2.) Why on Earth would Oswald have used his own rifle to kill
the President if he was "involved" with other "higher up" people
(Cuban or otherwise)? Do Russo and Molton think Oswald was duped? Or
was Lee Harvey just plain stupid (i.e., perfectly willing to shoot the
President with his own gun and from his own workplace, even though he
certainly would [or should!] have been given some other weapon to do
the job that could never be traced via a paper trail back to him)?
"This #2 item has always been a major snafu and a big question
mark, IMO, whenever somebody comes forth with a theory saying, in
effect, "Oswald killed JFK on behalf of a larger group of people, but
he just went ahead and used his own cheap rifle anyway".
"Yes, I know that Oswald did, indeed, use his own gun to kill
the President. That's as obvious as can be. But it only makes sense,
IMO, from the standpoint of Oswald doing it ALONE, sans any outside
influence...and, most importantly, sans any outside OPPORTUNITY that
would have been afforded him (via his co-plotters in crime) to obtain
a better assassination weapon that wouldn't have a popcorn trail a
mile long leading straight back to him.
"In other words -- Oswald (the lone killer, who probably didn't
plan to shoot the President more than two or three days ahead of time--
if that long) pretty much had no choice -- he used the only gun that
was available to him...his own Carcano rifle.
"But in a pre-arranged scenario, there is simply no way that
Oswald would be willing to use his own rifle, IMO, given the obvious
choices that would undoubtedly have been afforded him via such a multi-
person plan. I don't think Oswald was THAT stupid. .... Were these
Cubans so incredibly cheap that they couldn't afford a better rifle
for their killer to use on the President of the United States?
"3.) Why was LHO hung out to dry following the assassination if
he was really involved with other people in a plan to murder Kennedy?
Where the heck was his getaway driver via such a pre-arranged
assassination scheme? ....
"Yes, perhaps the rug was pulled out from under Oswald's feet at
the last minute. I guess that's always a possibility. Maybe the high-
up Cuban forces that were "in" on the plot with Oswald decided to make
him their solo "patsy", as it were.
"But even if that were true, there's still that pesky #2
question above about his rifle. How could ANYONE possibly talk Oswald
(or any shooter) into using his own rifle to kill the President within
the context of the kind of pre-arranged-well-in-advance multi-person
plot that Mr. Russo and Mr. Molton are obviously advocating in their
2008 publication? ....
"Plus: In such a scenario, why would anyone involved in a plot
with Oswald even WANT him to use such a cheap and old weapon for such
a big "hit" like this one? Maybe I'm just naive as all get out, but
that just makes no sense to me whatsoever." -- DVP; October 28, 2008
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After reading "Brothers In Arms", I found that those same three
questions are still very valid ones, and remain unanswered in any kind
of a satisfactory and reasonable manner.
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RELATED LINKS:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/17699bb27eef2180
http://JFKFiles.blogspot.com/2008/10/brothers-in-arms-kennedys-castros-and.html
j leyden
> >>> "These books [by David Kaiser, Gus Russo, and Mark Fuhrman] were ignored or ridiculed by the McAdams gang[,] which shows they have no integrity, honesty, or anything resembling fairness. Because if they did...they would have some questions." <<<
>
> As far as Mark Fuhrman's JFK book is concerned, I did ask some
> questions. That is, in my review of his 2006 book ("A Simple Act Of
> Murder"), I asked Mr. Fuhrman some questions about his strange anti-
> SBT stance, such as these questions:
Let's not forget that Mark Fuhrman told that whopper at the OJ trail
about never using the "N" word and OJ gave him a high five as he
danced out of the court room a free man. Oh, yeah, I trust that guy.
JGL
>
> � � � "Why on Earth would that bullet, travelling downward at 24
> http://JFKFiles.blogspot.com/2008/10/brothers-in-arms-kennedys-castro...
>
> http://JFK-Archives.blogspot.com
lazu...@webtv.net
impossible..no beating around the bush with weasel words..laz
Bud
Keep reading those books that are fundamentally flawed and have
severe problems, Laz, the conspiracy industry depends on retards such
as yourself to keep this cash cow giving milk.
Bud
> Fuhrman is right on the Magic bullet however...he literally says.. it's
> impossible..no beating around the bush with weasel words..laz
At least Furman was able to figure out who did the shooting and from
where, there isn`t much chance you will ever get that far in this
case.
lazu...@webtv.net
Assassination anymore, probably as sick of ct's as Lner's....which is a
shame...a fair debate is what it's all about, though this has never been
allowed to occur....and sometimes even some cter's I admire were pretty
snotty to Kaiser and Waldron...Laz